.410 Revolver vs .410 Shotgun - TSS vs Clay Blocks

[@AllAboutSurvival]

While the .410 may not be as powerful as other shotgun gauges, it still has its advantages, such as lower recoil and ease of use. Ultimately, the choice between a .410 revolver and a .410 shotgun for home defense will depend on personal preference, home layout, and individual needs. It's great to see these tests and get a better understanding of the capabilities of the .410 platform. Keep up the great work in providing valuable content to the firearm community!

[@phatgringo2.0]

Would be kinda fun to watch the bad guy roll around in agony before you call the pigs.

[@michaelcrowley1172]

Try out Henry 410 axe,if you get a chance,great yard n quad firearm, also multi-use for wifey in the home. GODBLESS from rural N.C.

[@AngloCelt88]

This is what everyone should start out on! Long live the .410!!!

[@donsims1941]

Agree, got my start on a little single shot.410 decades ago that little thing was a great little rabbit slayer. Still have it till this day 😊

[@John-wo5bp]

A 410 aint good shotgun for novice a 28 is better I found I speak from experience using light target loads then when a novice is ready to use heavy hunting loads to get them accustomed to recoil 🇬🇧👍🦊🐾

[@donsims1941]

@@John-wo5bp good luck finding ammo for a.28 gauge these days or even finding a gun for sale except for antique store or maybe the occasional pawn shop.

[@John-wo5bp]

@@donsims1941 here in uk is to be found in South italy you can also find 24 gauge and other obsolete bores a 20 gauge will do if you can't find 28 👍🐾🦊🇬🇧

[@AngloCelt88]

@@donsims1941 same here, I got my first deer with mine while squirrel hunting. Was using a little 6shot Remington 3" shell.

[@luvbgrass]

The revolver is rifled and short barrel. After about 3 yards the shot pattern starts going array. The long barrel is a smooth bore. The rifling really whips the shot.

[@donl4914]

I was wondering who else would see this as an issue. I have to agree with you. A slight twist in the 2" barrel sends the shot cup spinning out. The spread is drastically increased as it's now spinning out of control. From the Break Action smooth bore, this was what a Shot Shell was designed for. Long distance with slow expansion rate.

[@John-wo5bp]

@@donl4914 very right rifling will spread shot out too much leaving flyers and gaps in patterns 👍🐾🦊🇬🇧

[@getoffmylawn8986]

I love the fact that you actually use this stuff in real life turkey hunting. To me, that says it all. Long barrel is the way to go.

[@lamprosmellis5634]

The beloved channel leader who deals with weapons here in Greece according to elements of the community of shooting groups. Best wishes!!

[@CLP2102]

this is far and away the best gun channel on KZbin, no gun snobbery, entertaining without being goofy as hell or stupid gimmicks. bring on some more hi point stuff, i love how it gets panties in a wad

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks Chad

[@ralphorr8138]

410 is a great little cartridge, have used it on duck on my duck pond which is surrounded with tall willow frees. Great for such shorter range duck hunting. My fellow duck hunters said I was crazy I shot more eat able ducks than they did with their 12 gauge Bing bangs lol

[@rocknraptor3195]

Wow that was a big difference!!😲

[@jamesortiz5388]

Clay blocks are a favorite. When you draw a little face in it the lines make a pattern when it explodes.

[@KenBlackRifleAmerica]

Very interesting differences between the .410 Break open shotgun and the .410 handgun....I think that single shot rifle is the winner by far. Thanks WTW, appreciate you!! Take care....

[@Z7d3nR4]

Wow, mega difference in deed. I expected there would be a larger spread from the pistol, but that was an insane amount of variation between the two weapons. Thanks for doing that comparison.

[@MikeInOregon]

The first gun I shot was a .410/.22 combo. I was 5 and sitting in a lawn chair. My dad thought it was set to fire the .22. It was set to fire the .410. I fell over in the chair. I’ve loved guns ever since. Seriously, it’s almost my first memory.

[@loubega5140]

If gumby breaks into your house hes screwed 😂

[@Dwayne7834]

410 at short distance is a good round. Thanks for the video.

[@cervus-venator]

That ATI Nomad has an Improved Modified (IM) fixed choke (it chokes down the shot at the barrel's muzzle) and that measures out to be .399. The 45 long Colt has a bore diameter of .452 inches. There is no constriction so the pattern is blowing out as soon as it leaves the muzzle. For shooting shot gun pellet loads you'll never beat a constriction type of muzzle for keeping the pattern tight at a distance. For a slug it may be a different story, but in the end .45 being larger than .41 will have an effect on performance. Great video as always and the clay block tests are really starting to grow on me. They really show the difference between a choked shotgun blast and an open non-choked test. Thanks again!!

[@ronaldwitt6930]

I have a Rossi 410 tuffy turkey, it comes with 2 choke tube modified and extra full.

[@Me2Lancer]

Thanks for sharing. I grew up with a healthy respect for the .410 gauge. On my 12th birthday I was given a .410 bolt action shotgun. It was very effective in taking crows, rabbits, squirrels and foxes. That got my attention. I almost always used #6 shot.

[@merlinnorris714]

I grew up dragging a single shot 410 around as a kid and I've taken anything that a larger gauge would take within reason never felt under gun I currently have a bolt action 410 love a little shotguns

[@bradbo3]

yeah i wouldnt hunt anything with the revolver in 410....but Im super impressed with your birds with the single shot...its got me convinced 410 is good enough in the right barrel length.

[@johnnyquest8710]

Impressive comparison…I don’t want to be at receiving end of either of those 😮

[@ricjona1069]

Most excellent. Maybe do a comparison of a 410 vs a 12ga shorty out of 18 in barrel? Bird, buck, and slug...

[@randyadams03]

This what i expected when you used the shotgun. Cool

[@anthonyguidas2012]

That was like night and day, I didn’t think that the difference would be so drastic. But that’s why you run these tests 👍

[@silvergrizzly316]

WTW, I do believe I'm gonna have to get some of them Remington magnum loads for my single shot H&R .410 haven't shot that bad boy in a long long time! Lol. Thanks for all you do brother 🙏 Jay.

[@nevmax9312]

Was going to comment, that I’d like to see similar testing with buck shot/slugs.. which is why we watch the whole video, lol I’ll be tuning in for those tests!! Interesting results here indeed.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Nev

[@robertwies6806]

Always love the clay blocks!

[@melissasmess2773]

Nice, defies want to see buckshot out of the handgun next. Love double barrel .410 shotguns 😍

[@harrysteeletreo1]

Very much looking forward to seeing what a slug and buckshot does out of the revolver at same distance... This was an awesome video, one of your better ones (probably because I have had this same question myself)

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!

[@petermonck5448]

The difference is stunning 😮👍😎🙏

[@matthewgrice6902]

Great comparison video. I didn't think there would be that big of a difference. But probably because there is no choke in a pistol, then the spread is maximized double. Thanks WTW.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Matthew

[@jamesortiz5388]

The turkey was almost point blank tight pattern there.

[@idaho1959kkidd]

Cool 😎 video who! I own a Mossberg 500 hs 410 And it's one of my favorite. It's my primary home defense shotgun. My favorite heavy load is the Hornady Critical Defense 410 Triple Defense 2.5 inch shell 41 caliber FTX Slug Two .35 caliber Round Balls Velocity out of my 18 inch barrel is 1,300 per second.

[@michaelwood5327]

Love the slow mos.

[@jimzivny1554]

Good video, looking forward to seeing part 2

[@anthonyaubuchon765]

I have the Judge in stainless with the 3" barrel. The rifling in the barrel slings the shot. They make several loads designed for these pistols that works very well. I know its not exactly apples and oranges but Hi aliyah maximum expansion in 45 long colt is made especially for these pistols and is a very impressive round. I would be willing to donate a few rounds to watch you shoot clay.

[@brianjarvis313]

Very interesting results

[@kodywoodward]

I did not expect that big of difference!

[@pbeardy]

Great test! By the way, for those who do not know- the .410 is awesome!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks Paul

[@bassmangotdbluz3547]

.410 is still hard to find in Central Texas. I recently bought a 20 gauge to rectify the situation.

[@mtdburnett]

I recommend you place the clay in front of a large paper/cardboard backstop so you can actually see the spread and the pattern. I found shooting birdshot from rifled handgun barrels in .22LR, .22Mag, and .410 that there are 4 distinct elliptical voids in the patterns, especially with the .22Mag and the 3" .410. The .22LR had the only pattern I considered reliable enough to function as a snake load. The voids in the others were large enough to miss the snake's head. Destroyed my faith in the Judge for a brush hiking gun. The NAA Black Widow with the .22LR cylinder was the best of all. Lower velocity standard 2.5".410 was superior to 3" mag in the Raging Judge.

[@stevemacdaddy9909]

Definitely would like to see the same tests with buckshot and slugs.

[@tbdsere]

single shot h&r .410 was my second gun after a 100 year old single shot octagon barrel .22 . needless to say i had a great childhood. now i want one of those revolvers for spruce chickens here in alaska. whoteewho!

[@charlesmorgan1879]

That would work and have faster follow ups but alot more energy with longe barrel. Cool range art !

[@mtdburnett]

You remembered! Thanks!

[@chrislang5659]

That single shot would be a good candidate for .410 cut slugs using birdshot! Anyway, I believe that birdshot inside of 20 yards will get the job done in most cases!

[@johnconnor6725]

Wow, didn't know that, that much energy was lost from not getting as put in it from time in the barrel getting pushed out. Impressive. I'll keep using my Bolt action 410 for home defense, it holds more than you can have it for hunting. I don't remember, 5-6 at least. GREAT gun.

[@fedup3582]

After useing the revolver at 5 yds, you should have shot again at 1.5 to 2 yds to show the difference. It would also show effectiveness indoors.

[@francisbarbeau1862]

I was thinking that you should have used Ballistic Gel! Better medium to show penetration and wound channel!!

[@beetlefang]

That 410 can really make those Turkey's flop and the clay dance, Good Job!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

🦃🦃🦃

[@CM-bo3sm]

The .410 is underrated. That long barrel is a monster. I’d like to have the mossberg 590 .410 shock wave sawed off. It’s a little beast.

[@johnconnor6725]

I tested a FMJ Dbl barrel against a single shot shotgun and the 1" barrel was keeping a tighter pattern at about 25-30 yards. Enough you could see it shooting down on to still water from above on a cliff. It wasn't a lot tighter but it was tighter. $0.02

[@JoeyOutlaw]

Them TSS shells are like $45.00 a box!!! Thank you for your sacrifice to the channel.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Always appreciate you watching

[@HAVOC_26]

A Ballistics gel test would be good too, just to better see the penetration you get with the different barrel lengths. If you need a block, let me know.

[@gunsandcars3648]

.410 aint no joke, i wouldnt want to find myself on the wrong end of a judge or a single shot savage, slug or TSS will do the job and is pretty accurate.

[@rwschumm]

Hi Who Tee Who... I wonder how close you'd have to get with the revolver, to have damage similar to the 'break-open'? Great test... interested in any other similar tests you'd like to try! Take Care!

[@A-a-ron480]

I would like to see that, keep getting closer and see when/if we get the same results.

[@almirria6753]

A couple of things first, 1] there is a shortage of .410 ammo (at least here in Mo. there is) 2] the range that these would be used would be withn 7-20 feet , so .410 birdshot would be very lethal & would not over penatrate the drywall

[@davidbrown2284]

I love love love .410!!! I honestly wish we could share photos in the comments.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I love 410 too. Can always sent images on IG or FB

[@deraldspringer6989]

What is the consistency of clay compared to ballistic gel?

[@reapergrim76]

Very interesting video! 👌

[@tankmeister8131]

Well there you go that I wasn’t telling lies about my game kills, awesome thunder chicken footage.

[@crankygunreviews]

That is some expensive 410 to slang at a clay block! the dedication to awesome clay slaughter is unparalleled lol

[@WHOTEEWHO]

😜😜😜

[@TheTonygong]

Wow that's wild. Didn't expect that either

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Tony!

[@TheTonygong]

Thanks for being a real person! 🙏

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Always! Appreciate you bigtime

[@benjaminthaxton5087]

That single shot really shoots good it's built like the cheap Walmart Hatfield but shoots way better

[@JohnAngle-vw8yq]

Great video.

[@Kenbur]

shot my first pheasant 61 years ago with a 410. several hundred pheasants later I shot my last double on pheasants with a fancy trimmed-out o&u 12 gauge, which was 12 years ago, my last year of hunting. the year my last hunting dog passed from old age. the first and the last double, the pheasants were dead before they hit the ground. it would seem to me the only difference between a 410 and a 12 for effectiveness is the person behind the gun and how well they know and use their weapon. JS

[@joesashiify]

That revolver shot was shocking,😮. Wow.

[@chrisgabbert658]

👍😊 a lot of people underestimate the power of the.410 it’s only a smaller shot load .

[@johnlayne-sr9mw]

That was so cool blowing shit up that judge wouldn't have killed a intruder with birdshot but he would have wished it did

[@jorgen-ingmarcastell2864]

Surprisingly large difference. More spread and a bit less speed out of the revolver.

[@JohnSmith-jp6sc]

Results do not surprise me Who_Tee. Great video and test. Keep up the good work.

[@strokin3s]

Longer barrel definitely made a huge difference!

[@bassmangotdbluz3547]

I still prefer .410 Hornady HST Personal Defense in my S&W Governor. An HST Slug followed by two 35 caliber Steel Balls. It beats .45LC, Buck Shot, or Bird Shot for my money. It would certainly make someone reconsider their life choices.

[@knife_knut]

The rifling on the pistol gets the shot spinning & causes a wider dispersion of pellets

[@burkejones8277]

I wouldn’t want to be shot by either one, but I think the old crack barrel might the least painful. 😂

[@JeRKII]

Because you are talking about self defense you have to throw a round that is full of rock salt in there, only because we have all heard the stories of the farmers that kept a shotgun full of rock salt

[@tonywilson1182]

I have a Taurus judge 3” magnum with 6” barrel. Because of the rifling in the handgun it opens up quick and not good for distance which kinda sucks lol.

[@_GlockComa]

That judge is sweet... but $850 is a bit much! Im gonna get the 410 AR upper. "THAT’S gonna be a really fun video" 😂

[@Sourdough444]

Very interesting indeed.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Hey Scooter

[@tubbyshvfd9110]

While barrel length may have played a role…..choke constriction has more to do with. What was choke constriction on the shotty vs the Judge ?

[@txrick4879]

Even though I knew what was going to happen I wanted to see it . The long barrel will blow your head off and the pistol will take your face off . Win in my book

[@mkshffr4936]

My question is why do they not use a straight rifled choke tube like the Contender did.

[@keithrichardson4333]

Would definitely interested to see the judge with 00 buck and a slug

[@scottdpugnificent]

I wonder if something like a judge tracker would have a significant ballistic difference to the snub nose.

[@TimDavies1955]

Wonder are there any 20 ga revolvers or derringer type ( bond ) ?

[@Off-target-xy6bx]

I’m guessing the centrifugal force of the rifling on the revolver is the biggest factor in the shot spread and lose of energy. 🤷🏻‍♂️. Maybe you can get some company over for Thanksgiving dinner since Turkey is on the menu. Happy hunting 👍

[@GregariousAntithesis]

It was a gut feeling there would be a huge difference with the choke on the actual shotgun. You have to to in pretty close with buck shot in a pistol.

[@chrislang5659]

I had a chance to shoot that revolver with basically the same ammo at a full size piece of plywood. At about 10 - 15 yards ended up with a 36 in. pattern that didn't seem very impressive. Seeing what happened to the clay block has peeked my interest again!

[@joshua_J]

What you need to ask yourself is how many places in your house offer a 10-15 yard shoot. I can almost guarantee every shot in your house will fall within 5 yards and at that range it is devastating.

[@chrislang5659]

@Joshua J no argument from me! The only 410 I own is a Coachgun with exposed hammers so not my home defense choice, however, it is very fun! Rides in the truck when I spend time in the field, great for rattlers!

[@41alone]

Now that was a fun video LOL Thx

[@Rich31977]

What happened to my guys voice at 3:45?

[@franksparks1126]

You should think about taking some of the remains of the clay blocks and sell them ad art work. 😊😊

[@hckykrt91]

I would love a 410, but ammo is hard as hell to find and of you do, it's expensive as hell

[@aarongreenfield9038]

How about 50 BMG and Tannerite versus Bud Light?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Good idea

[@oubliette862]

do the bb's stay in the turkey or pass through?? I'm thinking they pass through, but I don't know. I think the rifling spins the shot load and spreads it out. if it had a smooth bore, but I believe there's some law about pistols having smooth bores.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Some stay in it

[@greasydot]

Awe man. The pistol gave the clay a case of lead measles as the break over cured the lead measles

[@ninjanix7288]

Own lots of .410 Ammo all the good stuff from midwayusa 👍🏻 have the ATI 18.5 like yours and the .29 inch and a judge in 3inch. Always a pleasure seeing your .410 videos🙏🏻🥷🏻

[@ALs-Outdoors]

Interesting 🤔

[@Oldnoitall]

About what I expected ! Almost like a water hose squirting water then one with a adjustable nozzle!! ??? Maybe : )))

[@chrisaerts6489]

Its all about what choke and barrel length.

[@rbdobynes]

Clay vs casull can't wait

[@greyrider7507]

I like these test's. I have Bond Arms 45/410 I carry and shoot Hornaday Triple Defense. How would they work against Mr. Clay?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Good idea

[@deanhoward4128]

Awesome! I have killed several rattlesnakes, but never anything else with a .410; I wouldn't want to be the bad guy on the wrong end of any kind of .410 ; even from the revolver, you got 26 fatal pellets in claymans' head!

[@robertvandick453]

hi WTW I have question. I've wondered this a long time. Does a pistol loose a lot of pressure between the cylinder and barrel when fired verses a rifle?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yes