416 Stroker Camaro FIRST STARTUP and Short Drive! Sounds ROWDY!

We finally finished the 416 Stroker LS3 Camaro build! After some delays with shipping and part availability, we were able to get the car all together and get it running nicely! The Brian Tooley Racing Stage 4 cam really makes this thing chop like none other!
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[@Officer.W]

Already taken it to it’s first cars and coffee on the new build this morning. Approaching the 500 mile oil change mark then the real fun begins.

[@SavageProductionsCars]

Heck yeah man! Keep us updated!

[@JonnyCap]

Nice! I haven't finished the videos yet, but were the parts that were chosen mentioned at some point? I'm curious what rotating assembly you went with - there are so many options! Do you have much piston slap on cold starts? I assume the pistons are 2618 alloy?

[@Officer.W]

JonnyCap if you have an Instagram I’d be more than happy to send you the entire build sheet to give you some ideas. Not all the parts are mentioned at least not all by name. No slap on startup to the coolant reaching 150, no knock or detonation either only tested that up to 4,500 rpm still operating on the tune for the old engine until July 30th.

[@justinmcgraw8222]

William DeAtley whats your instagram im doing a 416 stroker on my 1le

[@ryry350]

What’s your Instagram? I just had a valve drop or head break off and so far it’s not looking good in cylinder 4. So I’m hoping I can still bore out my block and upgrade to this. I’d love to read your build list so I can get some ideas. Sounds great though!

[@RandDCustoms2]

I have a 2013 Camaro SS with the LS3 6 speed. This is my future plan. Nice build.

[@JonnyCap]

Thank you for sharing this build! I just tore my LS3 down from my '08 Corvette and am looking into a stroker kit, so this is perfect timing!

[@Officer.W]

Definitely worth it, and the TQ gain on the low end makes up for the Cams Mid to high rpm gains

[@ocurrenciachapina]

Wow! That's a nice ride, excellent job as always blesses for you, your family and your channel.

[@cliffordcullen1687]

Just LS3 my FJ62 Land Cruiser wagon 5speed in 2018. Runs like a bat out of hell. Been thinking about stroking it. Might be a perfect thing for this heavy pig, just for the torque.

[@SavageProductionsCars]

Very cool!

[@timothyvaher2421]

Thanks for sharing your build. Just what I'm planning! Priceless example. -Seattle, WASHINGTON.

[@trevorcalhoun4530]

Hey, nice work guys and thanks much for the tutorial Dad!

[@SteveCaps-pj9xz]

Awesome job. Nice car.👍

[@jasonappleton5045]

Sounds good, definitely a ripper!

[@TheRdub82]

I enjoyed the video and how you guys showed the complete process. I can't believe he didn't port those #LS3 heads though! With that cam, compression and cubic inch, he left legit power on the table for sure.

[@SavageProductionsCars]

Yeah he's just sticking to his budget, which is a good thing too. Now he just has room to grow!

[@danielelizondo5749]

Ported heads are an extra 1500 to 2k lol

[@TheRdub82]

@@danielelizondo5749 true and ported LS3 heads with cubic inch and compression are badass!!🔥🔥🏁🏁💯👀

[@jessiecastille204]

That was Awesome video. I will be getting a Camaro soon. If I have any issues, I will bring it to your shop!!

[@rerun4144]

I own this car now... Its definitely rowdy, it has had approximately 17k on the build now. I believe im the 3rd person thats owned this car since you all built it..

[@SavageProductionsCars]

Nice! What's done to it now? The guy who we did the work for had a bad transmission mishap at the track that broke part of the block, so the engine had to be rebuilt again sometime after this video.

[@rerun4144]

@@SavageProductionsCars I'm told it has a new transmission and rear end now, ive only had it for about a week. I take it you all did the second rebuild also? Do you know what time it ran? As of now it needs a major detail, and a paint correction.

[@SavageProductionsCars]

@rerun4144 I believe it ran high 10s when we built it the first go-around. The big rebuild was a lower-budget rebuild of the same 416 just swapped into another block, then he sold it. So we didn't hear of any times from that rebuild.

[@rerun4144]

@@SavageProductionsCars would you happen to know the parts list on the second rebuild by any chance? By being a lower budget, i'm just curious as to what might have been skimped on, and what i may need to address in the future..

[@SavageProductionsCars]

@rerun4144 by "lower budget", I just mean no extra new parts were put in it. We reused everything except for the pistons since they were all good parts. We also went down 0.005" on the pistons for the new block, so it's more like a 415 now. But there's nothing much to look out for. It's an Eagle rotating assembly, BTR cam, springs, locks, retainers, pushrods, and Comp Cams short travel lifters with stock LS3 heads.

[@jaylestingi5418]

BTR Stage 4: (square) 233/250 0.630"/0.615" 113+5 GPI SS4 NFC: 236/254 0.646"/0.637" 112.5+3.5 Any reason you didn't go with the slightly more aggressive GPI No Fly Cut cam? Seems to be to the most powerful shelf cam that still clears stock HG, heads & pistons on LS3. I am running Cam Motion Titan King LS3: 232/244 0.620"/0.605" 112.5 +3 on my SBE LS3 and it is very aggressive but I have a GPI SS4 NFC here ready to go in. 4600 stall 245mm Pro Billet Circle D converter and 3.91 14/15 Z28 rear diff (up from stock 3.27) in my 2017 SS Sedan.

[@SavageProductionsCars]

The customer wanted to go with a BTR cam. They're also fairly local to us, so that's who we prefer.

[@MrDeepzek]

Sounds sick 👌

[@Dark1LE]

Hey what lifters did you guys use? I might have missed tht

[@kennethbarnett6986]

I am a local guy and was building a 86 Monte Carlo, the question is 408 or 416 ? Daily dirver

[@SavageProductionsCars]

Can't go wrong with either, honestly

[@sweetcustomridez564]

Did you guys have to change the stock oil pan after stroking the motor??

[@SavageProductionsCars]

Nope, stock oil pan worked fine

[@Nightfall68rs]

Could there be any more ads? Nice video despite the interruptions

[@SavageProductionsCars]

I usually let KZbin decide where it should put the ads. Perhaps I should take better control of that in the future. Thanks for your feedback!

[@bigcountry4947]

Wat this would it would cost if I had you guys to do it? And bout how much time will it take?

[@bigcountry4947]

I been watching yall for a minute and as a mechanic I like the work yall does. Plus u got the number man ol dad. My ol man left me years ago 💔. We use to do the same. But I would like if its possible to do my ss when I'm ready

[@SavageProductionsCars]

It would depend on what options you wanted for the build. It'd be best to call or message us and discuss your goals. Our contact info is in the description.

[@SomeAmericano]

Stock transmission and rear end? If so how is it holding up

[@SavageProductionsCars]

Trans broke and took out a chunk of the block. We're rebuilding it for him now.

[@avelezusmc7929]

Excellent

[@prnd21turbo]

This is why OUR flag is on the moon . Recognize !

[@ryry350]

Is there a build list??

[@SavageProductionsCars]

You can call/message us if you're interested in purchasing some or all of the parts in the build list!

[@Dark1LE]

So what exactly is a 416 stroker ?

[@SavageProductionsCars]

More cubic inches = more power

[@Gullyswift3]

Is it better to stroke the car or buy the actual 416 or a 427?

[@SavageProductionsCars]

An "actual" 416 or 427 is just a block that a machine shop bored out and put a stroker kit into. It's the same thing we did here. Sometimes the block is an aftermarket block, but it's still the same process. It's not that it's a different base engine at all.

[@Gullyswift3]

@@SavageProductionsCars ok i just wanted to make sure

[@johnsexyrock]

Where are you guys located?

[@SavageProductionsCars]

Hebron, KY just south of Cincinnati

[@user-ml2od9st2k]

What cam are you running???

[@SavageProductionsCars]

BTR stage 3 I believe

[@williamalcala2324]

how much hp this car is making? & you think is going to runs 9's i'm trying to build a NA monster but this 6th gen camaros NA are something else so idk if build my ls3 or just trow a blower or something else

[@SavageProductionsCars]

It made 482 hp and 474 lb/ft of torque on a dyno that consistently reads about 12% low. So it would be arouns 540 hp and 530 lb/ft of torque. Something like that could run like a 9.99 if it was completely optimized for the track.

[@ViolatorZ06]

@@SavageProductionsCars no way 540hp is running 9s in 1/4🤣🤣 I'm at 750rwhp on 5th gen lsa running 10.

[@SavageProductionsCars]

@@ViolatorZ06 as I said, "completely optimized for the track". The way it sits, the car ran 10.60s at the track. That's stick shift and stock suspension with no weight reduction.

[@willpower7963]

What’s the compression ratio?

[@SavageProductionsCars]

11.4:1

[@ryry350]

I currently have a tune on my ls3 for just a cam and header upgrade. I’m currently going to the 416 stroker. Is it safe to start the car on the old tune on first start up?

[@SavageProductionsCars]

Yeah that's usually fine. It's better if you have a wideband o2 sensor and can confirm the car isn't running lean, but if you just bump up the fuel pressure or lower the timing to be safe, it should be fine for startup and light revving. This is what we did when going from the 331 to a 363 in my fox body.

[@ryry350]

@@SavageProductionsCars is it safe to take the car out to put some miles on it?

[@SavageProductionsCars]

@@ryry350 as long as you can confirm your AF ratio isn't crazy lean, which it shouldn't be with your setup, you can lightly drive it around for some break-in miles.

[@ryry350]

@@SavageProductionsCars yeah I know with the old setup it was actually running rich so in my basic idea is that with all this it should be okay. Now is it best to fully break in the motor before dyno?

[@SavageProductionsCars]

@@ryry350 if possible before your tuning date, yeah. A good 250-500 miles or so will let things start to really set in, as well as show you any potential problems you'd have with the car so your tuner wouldn't have to fix them mid tune.

[@GETLITUP69]

What rotating assembly did you guys go with?

[@SavageProductionsCars]

I'll have to ask my dad tomorrow. I'll get back to ya.

[@SavageProductionsCars]

It's what I thought. It's our own specced out kit. This one was rated to around 850hp. If you're looking to purchase a kit, give us a call.

[@JerseyFrank007]

Your own spec'd out kit? Lol. Speed part world sucks....everyone trying to get in those pockets..

[@SavageProductionsCars]

@@JerseyFrank007 actually it's a comparable kit with better bearings and rings, upgradable everything, and they're cheaper than what you can find online. It all depends on who your supplier is.

[@ds_higgs]

what clutch did you use in the car? i’m getting ready to do the same thing to my car

[@SavageProductionsCars]

He had a clutch in it already, but he didn't know the brand, and we didn't recognize it. The pressure plate was bare metal, so no indication of what it was, but it was aftermarket.

[@SavageProductionsCars]

I personally recommend SPEC, as I've had the most success with their products. We're also a dealer for them, so if you need a hookup, let us know!

[@ds_higgs]

Savage Productions okay! i was looking at the SPEC stage 2+ for my car, do you think that would be a good enough clutch for a car with around 550-560hp? or should i got with the stage 3???

[@SavageProductionsCars]

@@ds_higgs stage 2+ would probably be fine. That's what we put in the 427W swap fox body project we're working on now. We're expecting it to make around 600 ft. lbs.

[@ds_higgs]

Savage Productions do you all have a way i can contact you? and i may just go ahead and order one

[@Whatthefuckisgoingon]

Did you guys get any CEL codes like the P0016?

[@SavageProductionsCars]

Nope, no codes.

[@Whatthefuckisgoingon]

@@SavageProductionsCars ok cool thx for info

[@Abel3270]

What stroker kit did you get?

[@SavageProductionsCars]

We sell our own stroker kit

[@Abel3270]

@@SavageProductionsCars link to it?

[@SavageProductionsCars]

@@Abel3270 we don't have a website where we would have a link. If you're interested in what we could offer, the best thing would be to give us a call and we can get a kit together that fits your goals, and offer it to you at a very affordable price.

[@Abel3270]

@@SavageProductionsCars You guys have a site where I can order the kit from or something?

[@SavageProductionsCars]

@@Abel3270 see above comment haha

[@justinmcgraw8222]

What injectors are in the car?

[@SavageProductionsCars]

Stock injectors. They can handle 650HP on 93 octane at 85% duty cycle.

[@justinmcgraw8222]

Savage Productions yea cause im doing a 416 in my car already has a ss3 cam with headers and intake

[@SavageProductionsCars]

@@justinmcgraw8222 yeah you should just be able to use stock injectors if you're running 93.

[@justinmcgraw8222]

Savage Productions yea thats what i was going to do but my buddy is selling me a set of lsa injectors for 150. Can i break in the motor on my current tune

[@SavageProductionsCars]

@@justinmcgraw8222 I'd maybe find a shop with an AFR gauge and a scan tool to check AFR and fuel trims while you're driving. If everything looks good, sure, you can putter around on your current or stock tune to break the engine in. That's what we ended up doing with this car. The owner drove it for 500+ miles before getting it tuned.