42 TotK Mysteries | Tears of the Kingdom | Let's Talk About #74

[@Twin_cia]

I like to think of the depths as the actual Origin point of the Demon King Demise and where he actually came from, in the legend of Skyloft, It says *”one fateful day, the earth cracked wide and a group of demons amerged from it”* (I don’t exactly remember how it was said but I think it was like this) which means Demise and Demon army amerged from a crack in the earth, The inverted Triforce on demise’s master sword could be a representation of the depths being a inverted version of Hyrule, this would make sense why Ganondorf would reside there and why it’s full of gloom and malice

[@PixelFusionProductions]

I think, if SS is part of this continuity, that Demise is more likely to have emerged from the Breach of Demise.

[@javiervasquez625]

I recall reading in the Zeldawiki that the place where Demise fights Link at the end of Skyward Sword is supposed to be the _Demon Realm_ in which Demise teleported to in order grow in power while awaiting for Link to come and face him. Since this place looks nothing like the Depths i don't think it's plausible that the "Demon Realm" from which Demise and the Demon Tribe hail from has any connection to the Depths from Tears of the Kingdom.

[@Twin_cia]

@@javiervasquez625 Zeldawiki isn’t necessarily canon, + that place looks nothing like a demon realm, it resembles the place where Zelda sended link at the end of Ocarina of time

[@javiervasquez625]

@@Twin_cia The Zeldawiki wrote this information after translating the original _japanese_ version of Skyward Sword where Demise outright mentions the place he and Link were standing on as "his realm" implying this location to be the Demon Realm. Also how can you say that place "looks nothing" like the Demon Realm when we have never _seen_ it in any game in the entire series? For all we know Demise used his power to reshape the entire realm into an empty space to have his epic final battle with Link so i see no problem with the possibility that this place is indeed the Demon Realm (as suggested in the japanese version of Skyward Sword). Lorule ressembles the Dark World/Sacred Realm from A Link to the Past yet it's been confirmed to be a *seperate* location entirely. The same thing applies to the apparent Demon Realm and the place Zelda teleported herself and Link to at the end of Ocarina of Time.

[@Twin_cia]

@@javiervasquez625 ok I see your point, well when the imprisoned breaks out of his seal, he breaks from the ground itself, therefore the depths *could be* the place where Hylia sealed away demise, right?

[@lux3681]

I think we are maybe forgetting that these are legends told to us verbally in video game format(because everyone's play-through is different). Because there has been so much time between legends, the story shifts, and some 'canon' events become exaggerations. That doesn't mean these legends from before Breath of the Wild become untrue; they just become unreliable as source material. Since there is a huge gap between the last games in the timeline and BOTW, I theorize that these legends from before have simply been forgotten, and those items that we find throughout the game are reminders that even though the legends are being forgotten, not everything about the stories was fiction.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

The problem with the "it's just a legend" argument, is that by saying what the game itself tells us is unreliable, then we can't really hold it accountable to its own storytelling. If that is the case, there is no reason to try and pick it apart. We have to take what the games tell us as truth. This is a fundamental part of storytelling, and failure to pay attention to your own continuity or tell a cohesive story is a fault of the storyteller... it is bad writing.

[@lux3681]

@@PixelFusionProductions while that is completely true and i acknowledge the it's just a legend argument is weak, from what I've been hearing from how Nintendo is starting to care less and less about story and more about mechanics. you can't fully disclose that Nintendo themselves might be going down this route with future Zelda installments. i agree that especially the story writing in these past two games have been lacking and i really hope nintendo will listen to the players/community and go back to making that story just as good as the new machanics. like they're known for.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

@@lux3681 And thus this is reflected in several of the largest Zelda Tubers expressing disappointed in the franchise. Bandit, Moxie, Monster Maze, Dr. Wily, even Zeltik. Simply put, Nintendo doesn't seem to care enough about their continuity to give a solid story.

[@lux3681]

@@PixelFusionProductions indeed, I'm afraid this is going to turn into a similar situation as to Pokemon. People are going to buy it even if it's shit because of the high praise it once received and people crave nostalgia no matter how small of a crumb they give us.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

@@lux3681 I fear the truth of the matter, is that it has been this way ever since BotW.

[@ZotelingInABoatThing]

Hear me out. The three lords are Zonai descendants (Or incarnations) of the three goddesses of Hyrule (Owl = Wisdom, Boar = Power, Dragon = courage) and they all underwent dragonification and became the servants of the springs.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

I actually think the three rulers of animals and the dragons are linked. I think they dumped their spirits in the labyrinths, and their bodies became dragons.

[@MarshallTheArtist]

Then why are they all dragons instead of those other forms?

[@PixelFusionProductions]

@@MarshallTheArtist Because Secret Stones turn you into a Dragon, not whatever spirit form you most resonate with. At least, that's what I think. I mean, by that logic, shouldn't Ganondorf have turned into a big Boar instead of a dragon when he ate his stone?

[@MarshallTheArtist]

@@PixelFusionProductions I know, but OP mentioned the animals for some reason.

[@normelwood3632]

The Triforce thought for restoring Zelda is neat and gives another tangent to go down. In the past, we have always seen an evil Ganon being the power embodiment. This brings about the thought of the Triforce of Power being used for good.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

In the past, I've theorized that Hylia rigged the Triforce Split mechanic. Courage would always go to the Hero, Wisdom to her Incarnate. I theorized that has a figure in place for Power as well, but Demise's hatred ended trumping whatever she set up. I've always though that maybe, Rauru filled that spot.

[@Rbaronii]

Great compilation and I appreciate the time stamps. I think your theories are so good, and it's practical to have a single video to go back to and quickly find the topic I wanna hear your thoughts on again. Thank you for uploading.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

Yeah, it helps clean up the clutter too. Also, the earlier videos I was masking the chapters because I was afraid people would skip some. It was a short sighted view on my end. This video as each chapter displayed properly.

[@GossipGeist]

Pixel, you've been doing work! 42 TotK theories? I kneel.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

From over the last year, yes. The video is doing well too! Thanks GG.

[@angelefrainurendatiscareno3345]

I think maybe, that because time travel is so unstable and messy, it causes some tiny time hic ups, and things like weapons to not ever break, but to reset to where they were, like the dusk bow re-spawns atop a castle tower every blood moon. And the goddess statue just borrows the white sword of the sky from that era, and when it reaches its braking point, it doesn't break itself but just breaks some kind of rift back to its origin , i donno i think i just refuse to accept that they do break 😅

[@PixelFusionProductions]

Weapon durability is a pretty divisive topic. I have major issues with the Master Sword heaving it, but there are clearly other weapons that should be unbreakable as well.

[@kNOwYouAndMe]

Great content! I love some new Zelda stuff to listen to. I havent seen you in a while as ToTK is short on new video materials so my "Zelda theory kick" wore off for a while 😂

[@PixelFusionProductions]

I've been remodeling the channel to be more general. I love Zelda of course, but I need a break, so I'll be talking about final fantasy for a bit next.

[@avon_c6199]

57:52 about the Imprisoning Chamber. Oh my goodness (o_O) given some new information about the upcoming book for TotK and the underground structure being remains of a "Light Temple", I have so many ideas and theories spiraling around my mind right now what the bottomless pit or the tree were for, why Ganondorf was lead there of all places or maybe he purposefully went there.....etc. etc.

[@LovelessDogg1]

I mean, It's the Sky Barrier the dragons are passing through and why they disappear soon afterwards. The Sky ruins were always there and the game kinda mentions that those ruins descended past the Barrier so we could see them. There's even a little kid in BotW that mentions there being Islands in the sky that he can see. Similar to how Koroks can only be seen by specific people. So it's not something the team thoughtlessly thought of when making TotK. It's something they just expanded upon especially since this was supposed to be DLC for BotW that added stuff that was planned for that game. (There's the falling animation in the data that's used in TotK among other things) I don't think it really matters who the dragons were specifically. However, the real mystery about them is why do they have a Triforce symbol on their backs? Now that's weird. One of the clear inspirations for BotW and TotK was the souls series(ironic as one of the souls inspirations are Zelda games), where a ton of its story and lore can be interpreted through dialogue and environmental details. A lot of it is not designed to be flat out explained as it would take away from the experience. Harping on things that feel more like easter eggs than actual lore that needs explaining is just silly to me. Some of it isn't even that big of a deal as these games are practically Myths and legends being passed down from person to person and are subject to change depending on who's telling it. That's always been my mentality when it comes to each one and their placement in a "Timeline"

[@PixelFusionProductions]

You are speaking of Shamae, she is a girl in BotW who dreams of a kingdom in the sky where people ride large birds. She spend the day looking to the skies trying to see this kingdom, but fails to. She returns in TotK and is fixated on a island that appeared in the sky. She also hasn't aged. The game doesn't explicitly state that Skyloft or even a cloud barrier exists. It implies that the Zonai were hiding their islands with technology, and that technology failed when Ganon shoved Hyrule Castle into the air. As for Dragon portals... I do agree this was meant to reference the cloud barrier of Skyward Sword, but TotK pulled back on those connections and offers other explanations, most of which use the Zonai as a catch all. This includes the dragons and the mysterious glowing scales on their back.

[@howabtjoe8]

I really think so many of TotK's problems could have been solved if they had just made the present events of the game take place in the past. Like send both Zelda and link to the past and have the same story take place just don't involve the present at all. THEN they could've used the same map but made these changes that they made for the cutscenes. That way they wouldnt have to create things like the sky islands or the depths to make the world seem like it has more content and could actually design a more intentional, condensed and less repetitive map. AND the player could have more agency in the progression of the story and you wouldnt have to experience the story through flashbacks again. This video is just more evidence of how thoughtless and unfinished the depths and sky islands feel, and I wonder what the game could've been if they spent more time dramatically changing the surface map so it feels new while still reusing assets.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

There are SO many ways they could have improved this. Honestly, I'm asking for much, a few journals lying around to explain stuff like the missing Sheikah tech. More interactive memories. Something involving Impa to actually earn a happy ending, not just have some dues ex ghosts appear and fix things.

[@howabtjoe8]

@@PixelFusionProductions I totally agree

[@austinjames007]

Bro said link to the past

[@avon_c6199]

Have Zelda AND Link go into the past and have Zelda act as a companion to Link, or vice versa, as the player is actively exploring the old "first" kingdom that Rauru and Sonia established. Then at the end of "Zonai-era gameplay"...either have Link actively take part in the "imprisoning war", as a first taste for the player what Ganondorf is capable of, and have him nearly mortally wounded and sent into some Zonai stasis chamber... or even before the battle Link is send straight into stasis by orders of Zelda. (Sidenote...some handwavium there, but that'd be some super advanced stasis pod even farther beyond what the Sheikah were capable of, thus able to sustain someone far far longer) After the events of the "imprisoning war" Zelda performs draconification and we fastforward into the "present" where Link wakes up at the start of the game. That might require some revisions or cuts to the dragontear memories/geoglyphs, but surely that could be done relatively easily.

[@SourDohSteele]

I think a lot of these mysteries are just chocked up to bad writing via over looking the previous games facts. However, I also feel a lot of these are purposely left ambiguous so great ZeldaTubers, like yourself, can find them and speculate. Well done again! Looking forward to what's next!

[@PixelFusionProductions]

With MasterWorks coming, I'm sure I'll get back into speculation on this late summer.

[@SeanMichaelangelo]

Awesome video man!

[@PixelFusionProductions]

Thank you kindly.

[@Fjado]

I have a feeling BOTW and TOTK are the beginning of an entirely new timeline, especially considering how they're organised on the main website that shows the timeline. I think they decided some years ago that they wanted a cohesive story, tried to make it work with the existing games, and are now recontextualising all of the major events (like the founding of Hyrule, imprisoning war, etc) in this new timeline

[@PixelFusionProductions]

I think, in a best case scenario, this is a remaining. I'm not happy with it, but it is what it is.

[@KulaMedli]

Perhaps the depths were moreover discovered after the Light dragon was born, since it seems like she split the dueling peaks, and I don't remember any mentioning of the depths prior to it.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

So, there is enough Zonai stuff down there, that it has to predate the Light Dragon. As for the mountain, the legend in BotW is that a dragon split it with thunder. I think it was Farosh, but we don't know. I honestly wished it had been Gamondorf doing some cool anime samurai stuff. That's just the weeabu in me speaking.

[@KulaMedli]

@@PixelFusionProductions Haha okay! :)

[@jjane222]

If the sky islands from totk were connected to ss, at least one of the islands would have had pumpkins on it

[@PixelFusionProductions]

You would think! I am pretty annoyed there isn't a single pumpkin in the sky!

[@avon_c6199]

It's a shame that some of the sky islands we see in the trailers seem to have been cut for the final game, most notably the islands above the Thundra Plateau, aswell as the developers outright stating they must've had way more skyislands but cut a good chunk of them cause it allegedly felt too messy at some point.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

@@avon_c6199 There is a lot that seems to have been cut. I also feel a lot of the base developmental ideas of it were rooted in the past games, but they pulled away from that. In an interview, they talked about considering putting Skyloft in the sky. What a total shame they pulled back on us.

[@avon_c6199]

@@PixelFusionProductions *sad face! I was totally expecting some remnants of Skyloft, or some ruins that vaguely looked like it, to be found somewhere in the sky, especially with all the familiar landmark names already present around the land, or places like LonLonRanch ruins, or the huuuuge goddess statue in the Forgotten Temple. They either cut a good chunk of the sky islands cause it was impacting performance at some point, or they really didn't see the value in it, unlike us players who are now obviously drooling over the fact that we may never see all these lush islands that they previously advertised in trailers. What a missed opportunity by Nintendo....and even more sad considering we won't be getting DLC, which imo could've been the perfect opportunity for them to expand on story-related content and adress some of the post-release criticism I now see across so many hourlong essays from not just the prominent Zelda KZbinrs, but across various forums aswell. Some might readily shove general criticism about TotK into the vocal minority drawer, but with the amount of it coming from various platforms across the net, no no no, that ain't a vocal minority. xD

[@chayelah]

Rauru spirit never left hyrule so I wonder if he just saw everything that took place. Which could explain why he knew where to take link

[@PixelFusionProductions]

His dialogue on the GSI implies he doesn't know what is going on. In particular, he seems surprised the Garden of Time had been lifted into the sky.

[@ChiyuriYami]

in the first place, it is too strange that an underground world would inverse the above world. My theory is that something unatural is causing the depths to slowly morph to reflect the above world. This could potentially explain why it still match even in the present despite how the above world was different in the past. Now why this happens though.. who knows

[@PixelFusionProductions]

My theory is the developers watched Stranger Things and wanted their own "Upside Down" world.

[@feaquil]

9:51 Ganon is a real one for this

[@PixelFusionProductions]

I don't really follow. We know the Blood Moon came about from the Demon King. The question is, why does the Blood Moon aid in cooking? You aren't suggesting that Ganondorf created the Blood Moon's to become a master chef are you?

[@feaquil]

​@PixelFusionProductions Ganon indirectly helped Link via the Blood Moon, so he's pretty much a 'real one' even though he's hellbent on purging Hyrule

[@PixelFusionProductions]

@@feaquil Oh, okay.

[@mustachyy1004]

My theory about the invisable sky islands: When doing the side quest atop the temple of time. A steward construct tells us about how Zelda and Mineru worked together after the Imprisoning war to make preparations for Link in the future. This includes sending important Zonai structures in the sky-: out of Ganondorfs reach; to aid Link. Now why weren't they visable in BOTW? I think the timetravel loop started with what we see in TOTK. That being the first loop. Zelda going back in time and working with Mineru, making preparations, happened just before Link woke up on the Great Sky island. Link and Zelda go beneath Hyrule Castle: no sky islands Link wakes up in the sky (after The imprisoning war/zelda and mineru raising the sky islands/etc. Therefore the sky islands were present by the time Link wakes up I am no time travel expert at all (also knowing it doesnt probably exist) and how different games/movies/shows have their different takes on it. I like to believe this might be true. Keep in mind the whole 'move the chair and it will have consequenses in the future'. Therefore what Zelda and Mineru did, completely changed the outcome of what would have been Hyrule's future, because Zelda shouldnt have been there in the first place. And knowing what she knows (the future, or for us: the present time) had great impact on Rauru's decision to sacrifice himself to buy time and Mineru helping Zelda with securing important Zonai structures by sending them in the sky. Curious about your thoughts!

[@PixelFusionProductions]

You should check out my videos on the Light Dragon and Missing Master Sword. I speak about the time travel concepts a bit there, and how Zelda may be changing the present. As for visibility in the sky, we don't see any sky islands in the past during the memories. The Stormwind Ark legend also talks about the Zonai being hidden in the sky. It would seem there is a cloaking technology masking them, making them invisible, and when Ganondorf shoved the castle up, it broke a lot of things. The book in Lookout landing is clear about that being when they became visible. Light Dragon Mystery: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5eZdHeAeM2jadEsi=gmLBneTSO19GAZNd Missing Master Sword: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqiaf3pvprCUprssi=ID2UJdD1xAH06BKg

[@avon_c6199]

Time travel is indeed a messy topic and has had various concepts explored in the past across all of media. How can Mummydorf in the basement already know of Link and Zelda when Zelda hasn't traveled into the past yet to kick off the events we later see in the memories? Is TotK by chance another 'Song of Storms' timeparadox, where established events have no definitive starting point or root cause, which is otherwise known as a "boostrap paradox"? I mean it would be fitting given the games logo of two dragons eating each others tails, with the timeline sort of looping back on itself from and to a certain point.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

@@avon_c6199 The time loop presented in the game is stable and actually works. The problem is that it conflicts with time travel behavior in the rest of the series, and Rauru himself makes a comment in the game suggesting that time travel works different than what is presented in game. The fact that time travel works in this circular manner in this game, and changes in other games create splits, is one of the reasons I've concluded BotW/TotK are a reboot.

[@avon_c6199]

@@PixelFusionProductions I suppose it possibly being a reboot could be reasonable to expect. Would the MasterSword, once being this allegedly impervious relic and holiest of blades to bannish evil, suddenly becoming this breakable piece of metal with so little damage output compared to other weapons, count towards that aswell? Besides this being a measure for the weapon breaking system in the Wild-era games, some comments suggest it is odd that such an important key item in the lore has been relegated to this status now.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

@@avon_c6199 I was never as upset as others about the sword breaking, and thought that since we saw it damaged in BotW, it was possible. Considering we've seem the sword tempered in ALttP, a process which would involve damaging it... It doesn't bother me that it broke. Weapon Durability as a whole does bother me though, but not for any Lore reason. It seems to, in the cade of rebooted continuity, that there is something special about the master sword we may simply never know now. I have theories, but they are just that.

[@CriDragonrider]

I could talk for hours about all these theories, but I'm curious, do you have a theory about the appearance of Hylian tomatoes?

[@PixelFusionProductions]

I assume it is a seasonal crop. It also explains why Durians are missing.

[@CriDragonrider]

@@PixelFusionProductions An elegant solution! Not to be contrary, but I think they are typically harvested in roughly the same season here on Earth though... Personally, my theory is the tomatoes exist in BotW, but because the Hyruleans aren't cooking them they simply don't get represented mechanically in the game. In TotK they are described as "kind of trendy lately", which I take to mean they only recently started cooking with them. Admittedly I can't account for the missing durians this way :

[@annebartlett139]

I enjoyed these theories. Some I see others not so easily. But an essential video for Zelda fans to watch. I look forward to seeing many more.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

Thank you. I'm taking a break from Zelda to doing Final Fantasy stuff for a bit. It's been a year and I need a break. I'll come back to Zelda stuff from time to time, it will not be sole focus anymore.

[@links_hairtie]

Wonderful compilation!

[@PixelFusionProductions]

Thank you. You can really hear how my voice recording improved over the year.

[@Tom_Emody]

Let’s begin at the beginning… the sky islands are invisible, because Zelda had not yet touched the stone that began this whole new adventure. I dare say yes , that is the case. …Tom

[@PixelFusionProductions]

That is clearly not the case. The islands appeared because Ganondorf broke something when he shoved the castle into the air. That seems to be what triggered the Fallin of sky debris and the dispelling of the Zonai Cloaking technology that was keeping it hidden.

[@sebastienmorin5149]

Mystery 29... there is no reason why at some points of the franchise, old Zelda and old Link, after a long journey, saw that killing Ganondorf do not get rid of the monsters who tries to resurect their master, and for so, Link and Zelda may had retrieve the triforce once again and wish for a complete reboot or a redraw of the land or a reset of the world with changes in order to erase evil from their world, erasing their entire lives and so, a part of the timeline and replacing it with a "new game"... at the end of LoZ 1 and 2 the kingdom was in particularly bad shape... for many stories, they could happend simultaneously in parralele universes... for exemple the time of Rauru in tears of the kingdom may happend i the same time and same location as ocarina of time but the following events changed due to a second princess Zelda in the ceremony, one in the courtyard spying the ceremony and one at the side of the king, but since Ganondorf saw a princess a bit too old to be the 10y old princess of Hyrules... he may witness the power of the sacred stones and had decided to run for the easy to grab stones instead of the "inaccessible" triforce locked behind an untouchable master sword that is behind of a unpickable door of time... and also, that can be the prelude of twilight princess in a third time... or even minish cap and 4 swords may be a reboot of the timeline when Link and Zelda wished to redo their lives without Ganondorf an for that, the evil had to find a new vessel to exist and became Vaati... it is possible that all the games are happening at the same time but in parralele universes meaning that all Ganondorfs, Zelda and Link are the same in each games but from parralele worlds (exept for the ones that are explicitely canon with each other)

[@PixelFusionProductions]

The problem with invoking Triforce logic and "What Ifs" is that it quickly cam eliminate any evidence backing the theory.

[@sebastienmorin5149]

@@PixelFusionProductions isnt it exactly the point of thoses theories about the mystery... "if all logic evidences are discartes by proof of their wrongness, then the truth must be within the irrational domain"... (Sherlock Holmes)

[@The-Aaron-The]

I always assumed that the depths had a sort of "as above so below" thing going on where the landscape morphs to match the overworked. Possibly because it's actually the dark world, or a similar realm that reflects Hyrule.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

The thing that gets to me is that some changes would have had to been really recent. For example, the flooding in Gerudo Canyon is all recent due to the upheaval. That area of the depths has solid wall.

[@The-Aaron-The]

@@PixelFusionProductions I'll have to check that out when I have my switch handy.

[@Black0ut_hyrule]

1. Well in Skyward Sword if you to to the surface and look up you can see the sky so the cloud barrier is more of a cloaking thing

[@fabriciodelesderrier2646]

I wish the other races had shadows too, not only hylian guards. So we could see that every race in Hyrule made sacrifices.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

I have an interesting theory about them... but that will have to wait until I'm back in Zelda Mode.

[@theloruleanhistorian]

My friend, we see the Light Dragon part the sea of clouds at the end of our time on the Great Sky Island. And it's this time, shortly after the Upheaval, upon which the sky islands appear to have become visible to the surface dwellers down below.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

Sorry Lorule, check the journal at Lookout Landing on the main table. It explicitly states the islands became visible on the day the castle rose into the sky. Whatever was hiding the islands from view broken when Ganondorf shoved the pillar up. I believe he inadvertently (or maybe deliberately) disrupted the entire power network to the Zonai grid, and the sky cloak dropped. That being said, even during the tutorial of the game before Zelda comes up through the clouds, you can see the surface.

[@theloruleanhistorian]

@PixelFusionProductions this one? 大地が揺れ地面には底の見えない大きな穴が開き "The earth shook, and huge chasms appeared in the ground from which the bottoms cannot be seen. 空は波打ち 浮遊する島々が現れそこから 遺跡が落下してきた･･･ The sky billowed, revealing floating islands from which the relics had fallen… そしてあろうことかハイラル城が浮上…これは現実なのだろうか･･ And of course, Hyrule Castle had been uplifted… I can hardly believe it all… 天変地異とはまさにこの事だ Without a doubt, this is a natural disaster."

[@theloruleanhistorian]

Couple this with the fact that we do not see any sign of sky islands while we see the relics falling down, and the Light Dragon's actions appear to ripple and billow the sky to reveal the surface in its entirety, I believe Purah's journal is talking about this moment.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

@@theloruleanhistorian I did not get a notification of your response, this is why Discord is better for conversation. The entries indicate that the events happened at the same time, that the sky islands appeared when the castle rose into the sky. As such, it wasn't the Light Dragon who revealed the islands to the surface at the end of the tutorial. She did not "disperse the cloud barrier", at least not one shown in Skyward Sword.

[@theloruleanhistorian]

@PixelFusionProductions see, I still must disagree. I see this notebook as a collection of thoughts on the phenomena that Purah has observed. Every page isn't a separate entry; merely details on the observations made after the events that occurred, and up to the moment before Link arrived back at Lookout Landing.

[@shelinkzelda]

I always wondered how anyone was meant to use the Astral Observatory. There are no doors or stairs to get into/out of it.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

I think central part was meant to be an elevator. So from the throneroom, they could lower themselves into it. Also, don't forget they had teleportation.

[@shelinkzelda]

​@@PixelFusionProductionsgotta be learned and skilled in the right way, then!

[@springtrap_66pg66]

disliking because of the first "mystery". Literally not a mystery and literally not because of bad writing. Lmao, stupid.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

Oh, I'm sorry. Is the invisibly of the sky islands in BotW explained somewhere in the game? If so, please provide some evidence supporting the claim.

[@Ahouro]

@@PixelFusionProductions The portal that the three dragons goes through in Botw is the evidence that there is a cloud barrier in Botw.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

@@Ahouro And I absolutely believe in BotW, they fully intended it to be such. Many connections to Skyward Sword were pulled back with TotK. For example, Shamae the Girl who Dreams of Skyloft in BotW, didn't even bother getting aged up. As for the cloud barrier itself, it is possible that the Dragons are still going there. If they are, it clearly isn't the same locations the Zonai Islands are though, and that Cloud Barrier would still exist.

[@Ahouro]

@@PixelFusionProductions The barrier is dispelled by the upheaval that is why everyone can see the sky island after Link and Zelda meet Ganondorf under the Hyrule castle.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

@@Ahouro If this is the case, simple question. Where is Skyloft? Also, if the Zonai predate Skyward Sword, where were their islands in during that game? The sky above Hyrule is not the Sky Realm of Skyward Sword. It is possible that world still exist above a cloud barrier, but that barrier was not the same one that was hiding the Zonai structures from the surface in BotW.

[@josephpowell4655]

I have a theory about the dragons. They are the first three zonai to descend this creating the triforce mythos and near the end of their lives they performed the draconification ritual thus aligning with the ascension of the goddesses in the myth. Also the names and elements line up as well.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

It's certainly a possibility. One of the mysteries I cut from this compilation was a a chapter that talked about their names and the origins of them. You may find that interesting to watch. It's #2 in this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/noe4kn6op92mh6csi=DIsQ2THoVUOrfGL9

[@LalalaKirby]

There is one thing that bothers me that isn't related to Hyrule lore, but definitely related to Devs Cutting Corners: The kids of Hateno. Rather than age-up the existing kids the 5 years like with Tarrey Town, they decided to add more kids in order to attend the school. I guess weird little Teebo ain't gonna grow up to be like his dad. It's just something that bothers me that probably shouldn't! But 5 years is a LONG TIME for a kid!

[@PixelFusionProductions]

Agreed. Poor Shamae, the girl who dreams of Skyloft in BotW, also did not get aged up.

[@angelo8606]

What are you talking about? The kids in the school are all aged up versions of Hateno kids from BOTW. As for how much time has passed, we don't know. 7 years, 5 years... it could very well be 3 or 4 years.

[@LalalaKirby]

@@angelo8606 Except they're not. You still see the kids who were trying to spot Purah, they're the same age. You see Teebo, who points out the bargaining statue in BotW, he's the same age. I'm even reasonably sure the boy who wanted to see all the weapons in BotW still runs around freely, the same age. If any DID age up, only 4 or 5 did. 2 of which I don't recognise from BotW. We know it was an estimated 5 years for 2 reasons: Two children have sprung up in this time, both Gerudo. Hudson's child, and Wabbo from Lover's Pond. If ONLY by that the chances of it being less than 4 years is dubious too. I would also bring up Riju and Tulin, who both aged up and became capable warriors, but anything I provide on those terms could be a stretch at best.

[@angelo8606]

​@@LalalaKirby The kids at the school you didn't recognize ARE the kids who were trying to spot Purah. Sefaro, Azu, Aster and Karin have grown up and they are at the school. The ones that haven't visibly aged are Teebo, Nebb and Narah, who are not at school. Basing the timeskip around the age of the two new Gerudo can be misleading. Because we know Gerudo age faster than Hylians (cf Creating a Champion, developers' notes p.137). And we don't know how quickly the Ritos age. Kass' daughters look older, but Molly is still the same.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

@@LalalaKirby Check out #3 in this video, the curious Sefaro. It is clear as day he is older, as are the other Hateno Kids kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXWsn3ykbcxgrZY Also, for those of you curious about Shamae , I cover her in the second video. She is #7, Shamae the Dreamer. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqPNoWampNGEnKM

[@jephwahlretrogames9245]

It is possible that somehow, The Depths change throughout time to mirror the surface. There are lots of magical elements in the game, why not a semi-sentient subterranean landscape?

[@PixelFusionProductions]

This is a common question to me, and it is a interesting concept, but there isn't anything to support it in the game I've found. I heard a interesting idea that the Froxes might be related, but I don't know. I think it's an oversight from how they made the map. They probably too the finished totk map, inverted it, and made the map from that.

[@jephwahlretrogames9245]

@@PixelFusionProductions Unfortunately, the real answer is likely "it's a game, why do you nerds take it so seriously?"

[@PixelFusionProductions]

@@jephwahlretrogames9245 And my response is, because I care about the stories that Nintendo puts out. If they cannot be consistent with their storytelling, then they should bring on some people who keep that straight for them. The Sonic team hired some Lore Masters for this very reason... maybe once again Sega will do what Ninten-Won't.

[@BaratoneBass]

how do ya feel about the idea botw and totk not being in the same timeline? If we're betting money id just say it was time travel shenanigans because it starts with zelda going back in time but it's an interesting idea that totk is in the ruined timeline

[@PixelFusionProductions]

My question would be, how would Link had ended up on it? If Zelda went back, changed events, she would flow forward on a different branch. That doesn't explain how Link would get there since he doesn't travel at all?

[@BaratoneBass]

@@PixelFusionProductions the new path also had a link. zelda's time travel led to the prophecies that defined links journey. except now hes zeldas chosen swordsman instead of the hylian champion. When they introduced the timeline they showed us that the timelines are similar with that portrait of tetras pirates as zeldas knights.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

@@BaratoneBass So, you are saying that in between the intro and Link waking up in the sky, we are switching control to an entirely different, cross-dimensional LInk? That really doesn't work, the game clearly is trying to have a circular time loop where the events of the present caused the past and vise versa. The ever-trendy Bootstrap Paradox.

[@Tom_Emody]

I appreciate your hard work on the subject. I want to reply to your replies. But KZbin won’t allow me to converse with others…. So I have to reply to comments with new comments. It very unhelpful…..thanks for your thoughts… it’s fun to ponder these things. …Tom

[@PixelFusionProductions]

This is why I prefer to have conversations on discord. It hard to carry on a bunch of conversations in yt comments, especially when it stops alerting me that people responded to my comment. All the same, that's for the engagement. It helps.

[@SilentVinyl]

Fascinating mysteries

[@PixelFusionProductions]

Thanks. Maybe someday we will have answers.

[@novustalks7525]

The skylands were created as trials for the hero out of ganons reach. Don't know why the depths are inverted. The animal Lords are different zonai tribes. All the dragons are previous zonai. They have the same hair as rauru and mineru. The zonai went extinct because the majority became dragons. Blupees become bubbulfrogs because they're unable to attain enlightenment and their greed causes them to be corrupted by the gems. I didn't know the blood moon affected cooking. Probably just a gameplay thing and not part of the story The ghosts are victims of the calamity. It's their weapons they used in life. Koutake and koume are not the same people from past games. Just another case of reused names. The dueling peaks aren't in the depths. The hebra hole? I haven't noticed it in the depths. Perhaps an oversight by the devs It's just a gameplay excuse to prevent you going beyond the desert. The colloseums were for zonai entertainment. They were a barbaric people who conquered through force and entertained themselves through combat. Bargainer statues have some sort of connection to hylia. The one in lookout landing is the odd one out Yes the dragons were all zonai. Even all the skeletons in the depths and the surface The goddess sword is a non canon item. It's there as a gameplay quirk like the rest of the legendary items. It doesn't canonically exist in the world since it's the master sword The final battle was invisible Zelda was restored through recall. Zelda didn't travel back 10,000 years. It was 50,000 years as there have been several calamities Don't know about the garden of time Rauru going to the sky can be explained by him knowing it's too dangerous to keep link on the surface while he recovers The imprisoning chamber was constructed as a trap. The platform uses the same hover tech as the skylands. The pyramid above ganon is the source of all sheikah tech The purification unit transforms gloom into ancient energy. The excess gloom is leftover as waste and becomes Malice Astral observatory was built ontop of the purification unit as an access point to ancient energy

[@1classicgamer]

I finally completed this game a week ago. 100%!!! Literally did everything just like BOTW. And I love TOTK more now tbh. I waited till the very end to fight Ganon and having that be the last thing I did in the game was one of the most epic feelings ever. It’s so sad that people moved on from TOTK as quickly as they did.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

I'm happy you played the game so thoroughly. Congrats.

[@leatherface173]

On a series with dragons... you're afraid paper isn't going to hold up for millennia... Bro, retire.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

So paper doe last for over 10,000 year? Evidence please.

[@doge229]

The White Sword of the Sky's design is that of the Goddess Longsword, not the Goddess Sword.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

It is the design of the sword from Skyward Sword. If you are claiming it's design is different, I will need some evidence.

[@kNOwYouAndMe]

ToTK was so good even if it was a letdown in terms of story.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

For me, it is a lack of connection. There is simply too much they don't explain, either because they didn't plan it out, or simply failed to include.

[@Twin_cia]

The story is bad written and rehashed from both skyward Sword and breath of the wild

[@PixelFusionProductions]

@@Twin_cia I wish they would just own up to it being a reboot. Cowards I say. I hope MasterWorks establishes this and puts it to bed once and for all.

[@Twin_cia]

@@PixelFusionProductions I’m not sure if you are already aware but Swagmasta just released a story rewrite for tears of the kingdom and it’s GREAT, I highly recommend you watch it if you already didn’t

[@hass556]

You just assume everything is a reboot so you don’t have to reassess prior established believes. It’s connected and it’s in the same hyrule as previous games.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

You can make whatever claims you want about me, but my videos make it very clear that Nintendo doesn't give enough supporting evidence to make it clear everything is connected. Word of God from interviews is not enough. What is worse in my opinion, is that the connections they were making in BotW were walked back in TotK. It very much seems to me that BotW & TotK were meant to be their own continuity, a more Japanese take on the series mythos as opposed to the European fantasy they had been crafting. Echoes of Wisdom, while I haven't talked about it much, is a return to form for the series. I dare say, they are making attempts to connect the Fallen Timeline to BotW with the game too.

[@BigRoy905]

Algorithmic engagement.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

I hope so! It isn't doing well right now...

[@sempercompellis]

many religions here on good old earth have divine entities which somehow "split".. Jesus Christ was one of these instances, many denominations of christianity consider the father, son and holy ghost all equal yet seperate instances of the same divine entity... The goddess Hylia could "exist" as both Zelda and some divine being in the sky at the same time - at least according to the "logic" of religions here in our world..I always considered princess zelda(s) as demigods (demigoddesses)

[@PixelFusionProductions]

Outside of the Sheikah tapestry and Impsa saying the princess has the blood of a goddess in BotW, there is no indication she is decended from Hylia. Even then, the "God" they speak of could merely be Zonai ancestry, who were seen as gods, and Zelda speaks of at the murals in the start of Totk.

[@sebastienmorin5149]

I always considered Jesus as the son of God, not God as an incarnated entity, and the same between Hylia and Zelda, Hylia passed her powers to "Skyward" Zelda and live in the statues, that Zelda is not a reincarnation but a successor of the godess... (or i may be totaly wrong, im just a ghost manipulating electrons inside a brain trapped in a meat armour)

[@themastersword1621]

Even since BOTW it seemed pretty obvious to me that these games are sort of a soft reboot. And even if the Zelda team never outright confirmed it, they pretty much said years ago BOTW takes place so far in the future all previous timelines converged and all previous games can be considered myth or legend (they don't call it "Legend of Zelda" for nothing). And honestly, I'm perfectly fine with that. The original timeline is still very messy and full of retcons and inconsistencies so it makes sense they wanted to start fresh. I also lean towards Fujibiyashi's suggestion that the kingdom from previous games was destroyed long ago and a new one was established.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

I agree that in BotW, they were angling for a soft reboot by moving things forward so far as to TRY to make the past games irrelevant. However, if you ask me, that greatly undestimates the history of the world they created, and undermines the fans who are so dedicated. Still, a soft reboot is still a reboot. TotK changed this approach. You see, where BotW was vague enough that you could imagine that somehow all the past game were canon, Tears doubles down in concepts from BotW further distancing itself from the past games. I would have expected, that if Breath and Tears were connected, that more of those connections to the past would have been revealed. Instead, things we were expecting to be connects to the past got new explanations that ultimately boil down to everything being Zonai. The worst salt in the wound is that the 2019 teaser that first show Ganondorf really did look like TP Ganon. It looked like they were serious about a connection, not a vague implication, but a solid connection to past Lore. As Zeltik put it, TotK is a disappointing masterpiece.

[@iceclkeyheart3060]

Not only in terms of that story wise Also with the gameplay and everything being so wildly different thinking of it as a soft reboot makes too much sense

[@Tom_Emody]

The creation of the depths happened when Zelda touched the stone. The chasms formed rite then as well if you need proof. I suppose it’s my ability to see things through the mind of a child that makes this easier for me than some. I am 50 years old. Been playing Zelda since the beginning. ..Tom 3:46

[@PixelFusionProductions]

I need evidence before I believe this. The chasms seemed to always exist, as there is one under Hyrule Castle that the Royal Family explicately stated that they were never allowed to enter. This is stated and they explore it before she touches the stone.

[@PepperPlaysStuffs]

I honestly believe, that by the time BotW/TotK era, the past games fell into legend and story, and in a sense, they lost a lot of detail or were told incorrectly at times as they were passed down. My theory is that Din, Farore and Nayru were Zonai (because the Zonai and their technology were seen as gods) and that the Zonai came down to help the Hyrulians (at the time, they would have just been the surface dwellers). It wouldn't surprise me if, in order the create the Triforce, they had to give up their humanity, much like ... SPOILER WARNING Zelda had to give up hers in order to restore the Master Sword and grant it more power. Then SS took place. You have the past in that game describing how the Skyloftians (Zonai) use to live on the surface, how Demise threatened all of 'Hyrule', how Hylia (Who I also believe was Zonai) lifted them into the air to save them. What if she only took the Zonai with her? What if a savage tribe of Hyrulians survived on the surface? Not impossible since the Gerudo should have existed to some capacity during this, as well as the Gorons were confirmed to have existed on the surface. this might also be where the Barbarian set comes from. I firmly believe, that even tho they are presented as Hylian in the game, Link and Zelda of SS were meant to be Zonai. When you think of Egyptians, we know through our science and their remains they were human, but SS era Hylians and Zonai did not create embalmed remains, hence why Hylians now tell the story of Princess Zelda and her Link as if they were Hylian. SS finishes and Link and Zelda come to the surface to essentially start the roots of Hyrule's History. Slowly, Hyrule is built (BotW/TotK great plateau). Surface dwellers have built the kingdom of Hyrule, babies were born and the events of Minish Cap, Four Swords and OoT take place. I imagine that during this part is where the Zonai went back up to the sky, but not before Zelda (and possibly Link) left a baby Zonai to co-mingle and become the beginning of the Royal Family, and as is the case often when kingdoms start to expand, wars occur, a civil war broke out and Time Link's mum left her baby in the care of the Kokiri. From OoT, the timeline gets shattered into 3 parts. Here's what I theorised regarding that. Once again, stories get retold, rewritten and details get lost. All three of those timelines exist in some capacity. It's why you get Zora in some, Rito in others and a weird 'mix' of Zora becoming Rito. Which brings us to, TotK Past and the 'merging' of timelines. YUP. Zonai come back to visit for whatever reason. I'm guessing cuz the Gerudo are causing problems because their Prince has been born and he's an evil d!ck. Regardless, Ganon rears his ugly head (or, in this case, devilishly handsome head), BUT this era doesn't have a Link or Zelda, and the reason is, TIME TRAVEL. Zelda coming to the past broke something, so a Zelda and Link for this time doesn't exist. Which is why they were only ever going to be able to seal Ganon. Sonia, being descended from the original Zonai Zelda and Rauru would have had a child, but where the child was during the events of TotK Past is unknown. bada bim, bada boom, Ganon gets sealed away, Zelda turns into dragon, castle is built on top of Ganon to prevent the seal from breaking long enough for TotK Present Zelda and Link to be the clean up crew. The Sword was never present in the past until Link 'sent' it back, at least, not in the capacity where it was being wielded. The sword from that era was still sitting pretty in Kokiri Forest guarded by the Deku Tree, who had been guarding since the end of the 'split' timeline. Now, here's where I disagree with most people on how much time has passed. A lot of people say only 10,000 years passed between TotK Past and BotW Calamity Era. NOPE. It took Ganon 10,000 years from BotW Ancient Past to Calamity Era for him to build up enough strength and evil to unleash Calamity Ganon. Logic would mean it took him 10,000 years to build up enough power for the Ancient Past attack. For the sake of ease of understanding, BotW 100 years post Calamity is 100 PCE (Post Calamity Era), before the Calamity is BCE: - 20,000 BCE = Rauru, Sonia and the Sages face off against Ganon and seal him away. - 10,000 BCE = Documents detailing the sealing must have survived between these eras and the Ancient Calamity occurs, allowing the Sheika preparation. Not long after driving back Calamity Ganon, scared of the power the Sheika had provided, the King of Hyrule forced the Sheika into hiding and destroyed much of their knowledge, effectively cementing the future destruction of Hyrule. (fear makes people stupid, we know this) - 9,983 BCE = Now, the wiki says 9,883 years after the last calamity, the prophecy was told regarding the newly born Princess, but 9,883 + 17 does not = 10,000. I think its meant to be 9,983 BCE, otherwise Ganon emerged 100 years early. - CE = All hell breaks loose on Zelda's 17th birthday, Ganon, knowing how he was defeated last time was able to corrupt the Divine Beast and Guardians, sh!t hits the fan, Link falls and Zelda goes off to hold Ganon off in an epic staring contest that lasts 101 years. - 100 PCE = Link wakes, regenerates (possibly took a year judging how long in game it takes to travel by horse (i know, i know, fast travel, but that's a game mechanic)), saves Zelda and vanquishes Calamity Ganon, but the damage is done. The Castle that was supposed to help seal off Ganon has been all but reduced to rubble and severely damaged, allowing the seal to start weakening. - 103 PCE = Gloom has been escaping from Ganon, the seal breaks, Zelda gets sent back in time, and the rest, you know how it goes. She wasn't able to change the past because that is how it was supposed to occur. They were supposed to fail against Ganon and triumph over him in 103 PCE. As far as I am aware, BotW and TotK are the only games that have a set amount of time between events of the past that are specifically written or said in game. It's how we know, 10,000 years passed between the ancient Calamity and the BotW one. We know Link was asleep for 100 years. We know 2-3 years passed between the end of BotW and Present TotK. But it also explains, with the destruction of knowledge by the King of Hyrule in 10,000 BCE, why Zelda only knows fragments of Zonai History, or the fact they existed at all. That's my theory on the timeline and how everything can be explained in a way that makes sense. It's how I interpreted the information we were given in game. Hope it made sense to ya'll.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

This is a lot to respond to, so I'll just pick part, the time between calamities. I think Malice accumulates much faster than 10,000 years. One if the key functions of the Sheikah Tech was to suck that up and convert it into energy to power their technology. This is why I think, it had taken 10,000 years for a new Calamity to emerge, because they were actively siphoning the Malice as it generated. Before they established the technology and started siphoning it, I think it took considerable less time to accumulate. Perhaps 100 years. We don't know for sure, but what is clear is that 10,000... 20,000... or more is a poposterous amount of time to past.

[@shelinkzelda]

Zelda's have the blood of the goddess, but they're all their own entities. Hylia reverts to her divine form once the first Zelda passes. At least, that's how I figure it. Think of it like The Green Mile. John Coffey gives Paul a little bit of himself, and it gives Paul a LOT of life, but John is still John. N.B. I know that giving a li'l bit of yourself isn't equal to reincarnation, I'm just saying that in that situation, and in the situation of, you know, regular people having kids, something of the original person is passed through the bloodline. So it is in the case of Zelda/Hylia. Look at real world royalty - their claim to power is based on the claim of divine blood. That's why Matthew Pincent has God as a direct ancestor. Best. Family Tree. Ever!

[@PixelFusionProductions]

She does have the blood of a goddesses, but that doesn't mean it is the blood Hylia. It could be exactly what they tell us in the opening of the game, she carries the blood of gods... as a result of the union from them and her ancestors.. the Zonai.

[@TwinBlasters]

The sheer volume of embedded subscriber begging is astonishing

[@PixelFusionProductions]

Are you talking about how it pops up from time to time? I tried to make it unintrusive, no sound, somewhat transparent, and to show up at times that wouldn't cover anything important. I actually put a lot of thought into where to put it because, as a person who watches youtube a lot myself, I know how annoying it can be. Anyhow, I'm playing this youtube game is this is sadly what is needed. Once I become more stable with regular returning subscribers and channel members, it won't be as needed. So... it is what it is.

[@TwinBlasters]

@@PixelFusionProductions The only reason you should be making anything is because you want to, so no, it's not needed. If you're doing it for money or a following, you're doing it for the wrong reasons

[@PixelFusionProductions]

If my "subscription begging" bothers you, please see your way out. I am doing this in part for a living. I'm not sorry for that.

[@guttab0i]

I think Zelda breath of the wild. Is a complete retailing up to ocarina of Time. Tears of the kingdom is everything after that

[@PixelFusionProductions]

I might have agreed with you before totk came out. I thought BotW was a splinter from SS that led to an alternate set of events that could... sort of... account for the changes in the settings. However, considering TotK did very little to try and connect with past games, and worst, walked back BotW references by flushing them out with new Lore, I have to conclude it's a reboot. A "reimagining" of the series through a new lens. I know it isn't a popular opinion, but it clearly doesn't follow any single timeline... and the idea of convergence is nonsense.

[@Ahouro]

Mystery 8, Kotake and Koume are reincarnations of the previous twin witches so no conflict with the continuity and we know that Botw takes place after Oot on the timeline as confirmed by both the Zora monuments and Aonuma, source Game informer March 2017 page 48. Mystery 20, the storm isn´t 10,000 years is it much older. Mystery 21, the items are replicas of items of the past. Mystery 26, Rauru´s body only started to decay after the castle was damage in the calamity 100 years ago. Mystery 29, when SS Zelda dies Hylia can exist again as a goddess because only SS Zelda is the reincarnation as the other Zeldas are just descendants of her or Hylia being the goddess of time isn´t constrained by time, Botw isn´t and has never been intend as a reboot. Botw and Totk are in the same continuity as the old games

[@PixelFusionProductions]

Don't expect a lot of arguments for me, that's what discord is for. Still, I will at least give a base response. 8. Word of God needs to be taken with a grain of salt, especially when it contradicts things that are stated in game. There are a lot of potential explanations that can explain this away without it being apart of past games in timeline, and I bring this up throughout my videos a lot. For example, the Zora Tablets, which I will remind you were scrubbed in TotK, could easily have been talking about the Ancient Sage of Water, who may be named Ruto. She fought alongside a Princess did she not, and couldn't Rauru be considered a "Hero"? Again, I'm not going to fight over this in my comments. 20. The implication of my inquire was that the storm would be Over 10,000 years old. 21. And what evidence do you have they are replicas? There are many in the community who believe them to be legit. 26. This is not stated in game. That was stated in an interview, which I would point out, came out after my initial video where I presented that mystery. Regardless, Word of God and Death of the Author apply. If you are unfamiliar with those writing tools, go look them up on TV Tropes. 29. This is entirely speculation on your end. The way SS presents it is that Hylia gave up her existence to reincarnate. Zelda from that game is only reclaiming memories of Hylia, she isn't a new Hylia herself. Hylia, the spirit of that entity, is implied to have died, and it is entirely conjecture on your end that her spirit would reappear when Zelda had died. You say that TotK and BotW are in the same continuity as the old games, but BotW and TotK fail to properly embrace it. What connections were in BotW were walked back in TotK. If you don't like my views, I'm not going to argue with you about it, so please move on.

[@Ahouro]

@@PixelFusionProductions 8. the Zora princess is describe as a tomboy no indication of that can be seen from the Zora sage, the monuments was damage that is why Sidon made his own and Rauru would be the legendary king not hero. 21. that you can get multiple of certain when they break like the Goddess sword.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

@Ahouro 8. We do not know enough about the nature of the Ancient Sage of Water to evaluate how feminine or m _asculine she m_ ay have been. Consider though, that the Sheikah may have modeled the Divine Beasts after aspects of the Ancient Sages. If so, then wouldn't the names associated with those beasts, Medoh, Rudania, Nabboris, and Ruto also be fitting to be based off those sages? I believe the ancient sage of water was named Ruto, and I believe the Zora Tablet is speaking of her, not the Ruto from Ocarina of Time. I will admit that when BotW came out, they clearly were referencing the Ocarina. TotK decided to pull back on those connections, and thus I conclude BotW & TotK are their own continuity... a reboot. 21. I am not actually claiming they are the legit pieces of the past, others do. I have a far more interesting theory regarding them. Check out my video on if Amiibo Items are canon. I address a really interesting aspect there, and present the *Only Instances* I think that there is a connection, a legitimate connection, to the original games / timeline. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIW0d41-gNyZrNk

[@gallian_gaming9383]

There is a theory that skyward sword's time traval caused a timeline split. when demise is defeted in the past Zelda would have awoken no longer needing to hold the seal. Recognising the isue that would caouse for the future, she could have reverted back to her goddes form to merge the timelines. This would lead to her being present in every game as both Zelda and Hylia. If this is true she could have merged the three other timelines causing a refounding of Hyrule and kick off the telling the BotW and TotK.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

Check out my video on Skyward Sword's time travel, and how I think it made a time split. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/naupiqFmhqd4a9k

[@zirenyolo]

和很多科幻一样，时间穿越意味着你其实已经去了另一个宇宙...😂我们从旷野之息的宇宙穿越到王国之泪的宇宙了。

[@PixelFusionProductions]

太酷了 我不会说中文，你能用英文写吗？ 时间旅行是个棘手的问题，翻译会增加额外的步骤，我宁愿避免。

[@sebewufu]

Algorithmic Engagement

[@Tom_Emody]

Now bad writing has been blamed for the sky islands being invisible, when the touching of the stone by Zelda is the obvious reason for the new timeline to exist. …it’s a tad upsetting…. I’m going to keep watching for now… 2:48

[@PixelFusionProductions]

The problem is that the game portrays Zelda's time travel as circular. Ganondorf is under the castle because he was sealed there in the past, in part because a time traveling Zelda went to the past. This is why he knows her name at the start of the game.

[@Enjoyer.762]

Yup, it certainly seems Nintendo basically retconned everything with TOTK. I would have been fine with it if the game had a better and richer developed plot and more to do regarding the main story.

[@PixelFusionProductions]

I just wish they would come out and say it was a reboot. It really doesn't fit in the established Lore, and it feels like an entirely new origin to the world.

[@Tom_Emody]

You are overthinking items that were clearly shown in the beginning cut scenes. I suggest you play again with attention to the cut scenes. …everything will make since if you believe what they show you. Zelda touches the time stone, then a new past is suddenly placed over top of the present. That is what I see, how’s about you? …Tom

[@PixelFusionProductions]

Again, the game presents itself with circular timeline logic. The past wasn't modified by her because the events always happened. The memories establish this clearly.