427 Ford on the DYNO part 2 - Shelby Cobra engine tested

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@abeybaby29
@abeybaby29 4 ай бұрын
When u hear Nick say OH WOW and that look on his face is priceless. That is a happy moment!
@tomstrum6259
@tomstrum6259 4 ай бұрын
When ya get excited at 5300 Rpm peakin HP curves....Donno.....Maybe Stump pullin work Truck ??
@termonostruman
@termonostruman 4 ай бұрын
i dont know, we dont known client dont know..thts a good start
@termonostruman
@termonostruman 4 ай бұрын
that dyno shoul have more sensores.. for me..
@zAvAvAz
@zAvAvAz 4 ай бұрын
@@tomstrum6259 2 seater cobra can lug gear and accelerate with an under geared setup. Also, have high cruise speed at three grand and under, as well as high top speed, and power in turns. There is no reason for seven, or eight hundred hp, and is a different parts bracket for longevity. With engines, tune with car.
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 4 ай бұрын
@@zAvAvAz That is overlooked so much these days. Burnout machines have become the norm. A car with the power to move the car with stunning aplomb is what is really awesome. This car will strike the fear of God into you. People have forgotten about having the ability to take your breath away with G forces, and not just be a spectacle that sits in one place and inmolates the tires and all of the forces wasted.
@michaelbaumgardner2530
@michaelbaumgardner2530 4 ай бұрын
At 21 I was die hard Chevrolet,now at 60 I enjoy all makes of muscle cars and that 427 is a Hoss,put that into a 2500 lb chassis...Pure Adrenaline.. Great Video
@dennisford2000
@dennisford2000 4 ай бұрын
@@michaelbaumgardner2530 about 2000-2100. Something like a 914 Porsche mid engine and Ariel Atom style. Perhaps as light as 1500? With batteries and pumps etc up to the tonne? 1000 kilograms of adrenaline….
@oneeyedjack4727
@oneeyedjack4727 4 ай бұрын
I'm 70 now and when I was in high school in '71-'72, two of my neighbors had '63 Galaxie fastbacks with 427s in them. One, the XL, had a '65 (I think) side oiler swapped into it. Loved the sound. We called the difference between the engines side oiler and top oiler.
@hilleryclifford1350
@hilleryclifford1350 4 ай бұрын
I’m 57 and you were getting your ass handed to you by big block Camaros, still happening to this very day.
@ericball6000
@ericball6000 4 ай бұрын
Happy 8 year Anniversary of making the BEST muscle car videos, Dr. Nick, George, thank you, cheers.
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage 4 ай бұрын
Many thanks!
@termonostruman
@termonostruman 4 ай бұрын
In this episode: See a cobra fuk up my Dyno yahah thas why ists called cobra.
@ssnerd583
@ssnerd583 4 ай бұрын
The most important tool in the shop is between Nick's ears!!!!
@Thomasploeg1968
@Thomasploeg1968 4 ай бұрын
Yes , then george , and A TEAM
@chriskitsoulis7916
@chriskitsoulis7916 4 ай бұрын
❤Qqqqqqq​@@Thomasploeg1968
@davidjenson8124
@davidjenson8124 4 ай бұрын
What is it?
@davidjenson8124
@davidjenson8124 4 ай бұрын
Sadly, all Ford big blocks are junk.
@termonostruman
@termonostruman 4 ай бұрын
@@davidjenson8124 sadly In this episode: See a cobra fuk up my Dyno yahah thas why ists called cobra.
@mikechiodetti4482
@mikechiodetti4482 4 ай бұрын
WOOOOHOOOO! 508 FOOT POUNDS of STUMP PULLING, TIRE SHREDDING POWER! 460+ HORSE POWER TOO! You've got a solid engine there Nick! That will put a smile on the owner's face! Thanks Nick for a great Dyno Night with the Ford 427 engine!
@Gamefreak8112
@Gamefreak8112 4 ай бұрын
You'd think that the owner of such a piece of history would know what they've got. Appreciate the honesty!
@johnfriend862
@johnfriend862 4 ай бұрын
Sorry, no real Cobra came with power brakes. They have 4 wheel discs with Girling calipers, with a separate master cylinders and reservoirs for front and rear.. With a 289 weighing ~1,900 pounds and a 427 weighing 2,200 pounds, the manual brakes do require effort but they can haul you down from speed pretty quickly. I have two 427's and two 289's, I am pretty knowledgeable on the Cobra.
@michaelsullivan2361
@michaelsullivan2361 4 ай бұрын
All Automotive 427 FE’s have cross-bolted mains. Performance wise, a center oiler and side oiler have the exact same potential. The side oiler was designed to make it live under extreme stress.
@bogiewheelman71
@bogiewheelman71 4 ай бұрын
The 427 sounds so smooth running at high rpm's.
@termonostruman
@termonostruman 4 ай бұрын
In this episode: See a cobra fuk up my Dyno yahah thas why ists called cobra.
@termonostruman
@termonostruman 4 ай бұрын
its a nice engione to pump water to my agriculture,, but gasoline is expensive better an electric engine or diesel.
@stephensowell9578
@stephensowell9578 4 ай бұрын
For an engine with a flat tappet (solid lifter) cam, I could not tell if it was that or hydraulic lifters, and I was listening for it. It is a high-quality build. Seems like the owner will not have to rely on high RPM to do the job
@danmyers9372
@danmyers9372 4 ай бұрын
High RPMS?? It barely crested 5000. Since when is 5000 “high rpm’s”? You have been watching too many Slopar engine videos.
@bobbyagee3796
@bobbyagee3796 4 ай бұрын
Prof. Panaritis is my automotive professor. I learn from everything that he and the rest of the team engage into. Mistakes happen professor Nick you're still my PROFESSOR. Awesome job Prof. Manny on the Super Flow exorbitor repair. Ford Shelby Cobra 427, 466 HP @ 505 ft lb trq awesome!
@gilbertwashburn7095
@gilbertwashburn7095 4 ай бұрын
It don't matter if it's not a side Oiler it's a screamer I love it and 1968 my neighbor had a 427 Top Oiler he had it in a 49 International Pickup he shortened to pick up 17 in the rear frame he put a Ford 9 in it it had a top loader 4 speed yep it stood on the bumper no problem it was awesome I was 12 years old it was awesome great my mom was terrified I thought it was fun then I bought a motorcycle and she really freaked out have a great day Nick love the videos I'll keep watching and keeps me inspired I'm just old retired Gearhead have a great day
@charlesangell_bulmtl
@charlesangell_bulmtl 4 ай бұрын
Now, THAT was a headache to read.... No clue what this was >....shortened to pick up 17 in the rear frame...? 🤨Learn to proofread....PLEASE
@chipieal
@chipieal 4 ай бұрын
Robert and Manny - Thanks for fixing the absorber. I know i have been watching for a long time. When it let go, I said out loud "Oh no -- the absorber let loose needs a new gasket..."
@scottsteeves
@scottsteeves 4 ай бұрын
The FE has always been my favorite Ford motor. They just have a roar to them.
@Axeman428
@Axeman428 3 ай бұрын
It’s legendary. The FE has won races all over the world in practically every racing series imaginable. I have built several and until the coyote it was my favorite engine by any manufacturer.
@donbrutcher4501
@donbrutcher4501 4 ай бұрын
Put a stiffer spring in the distributor to slow down the advance and take the total advance back up to 38-39 deg.
@johnfriend862
@johnfriend862 4 ай бұрын
The linkage looks correct now. The original 427s were "top oiler" engines, because it gave oil to the cams first, then pumped oil to the bottom end. This was destructive in NASCAR, as the mains starved for oil at sustained high RPM. So, the next generation gave priority oiling to the mains, hence the capillary tubes visible in the casting. I've got two real deal 427 Cobras, both side oilers, one is a comp car and one a street car. The comp car is a single 4 barrel Lemans bowl race engine and street car has an R code dual quad similar to this one. Both like 36 degrees all in on timing, original 12.5/1 compression running 100 octane race fuel. The race engine made a staggering 553 HP on the dyno, two dual quad car made a monster 605 pounds of torque. Both were built by Keith Craft, both are basically all original. Keith told me the R code made more torque than any dual quad 427 he had ever built. A properly set up 427 can be a beast. The street car weighs 2,200 pounds and will blow the tires off in 4th gear at 55 mph, it can get sideways at will. Those vents on the back of the intake were notorious for dripping oil and making you think you had a weird leak. Those engines build a lot of crankcase pressure.
@jasonwalker999
@jasonwalker999 4 ай бұрын
Correct on side oiler vs top/center oiler. I have one in a 63-1/2 Galaxie from my dad. It has restrictors in the top end to keep the oil to a minimum on the top end and keep oil down low. It was a band aid until Ford came out with the side oiler due to engines not surviving nascar races. Though the top/center oilers were still more durable than the Chevy counterparts. I also have two 69 Chris Craft 427’s. Really only good for the blocks and one crank.
@rosco664
@rosco664 4 ай бұрын
I have a Keith Craft 349 sbf that made 508hp and 452tq. Had nothing but good things to say about them. It's a shame what all came of the company.
@michaelsullivan2361
@michaelsullivan2361 4 ай бұрын
MOTOR’S Manual! Love it!
@seangoodman665
@seangoodman665 4 ай бұрын
The Bible
@leelavoie6753
@leelavoie6753 4 ай бұрын
Side Oiler or not…465hp/508ftlbs is impressive, strong! Thank you for sharing this motor, brought back lots of fond memories.
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@rickh8380
@rickh8380 4 ай бұрын
Side Oiler or not... Georges Chevy inline 6 will put this engine to shame. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Can't wait for it to be on Nick's Dyno.
@jamesmedlin8552
@jamesmedlin8552 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@rickh8380yeah it did with “today’s technology”! But would it back in 1967? You’d bet your ass it didn’t.
@malcolmboynton7652
@malcolmboynton7652 4 ай бұрын
had a 427 in a 67 mustang decades ago. it made me a few bucks on our streets. fun times.
@malcolmboynton7652
@malcolmboynton7652 4 ай бұрын
miss the days of having a rusty "race car" for under a grand.
@dogsense3773
@dogsense3773 4 ай бұрын
Only cougars came with a 427
@NH1969GOAT
@NH1969GOAT 4 ай бұрын
@@dogsense3773 If he had a 67 Mustang with a 427, he put it there...
@termonostruman
@termonostruman 4 ай бұрын
it doesn make power after 5.000 pm
@scottboyd7368
@scottboyd7368 2 ай бұрын
@@dogsense3773 Wrong...67 Mustangs could come with a 427. In 67 it would have "medium riser heads" which will make more power than stock Edlebrock heads. Edelbrock are really a low riser or Cobra Jet head.....2.09 Intake valves as opposed to 2.19 Intake valves and a raised port..
@scottb8175
@scottb8175 4 ай бұрын
Non - side oiler = "top oiler". The side oiler pumped oil to the crank first through a new cast in oil gallery on the side of the block not found in any other FE blocks, then the oil went to the camshaft. The top oiler pumped the oil to the camshaft first, from an oil gallery cast in the lifter valley like most other old Ford v-8's, then the crank. Sustained high rpm racing (NASCAR) the 427 Ford would have crankshaft rod and main bearing issues caused by insufficient oil supply. The side oiler fixed the problem, and was used in the 427 SOHC too. In street and drag racing, the top oiler worked well enough.
@rickschlosser6793
@rickschlosser6793 4 ай бұрын
I have heard because of this 427 side oilers are limited to a 0.030” bore. More than that is known to cause failures. I think even Nick has said this in previous episodes.
@FRLN500
@FRLN500 4 ай бұрын
​@@rickschlosser6793 No.
@dennisford2000
@dennisford2000 4 ай бұрын
@@rickschlosser6793 The 427 was the largest bore /short stroke with the same block as 390, any core shift is the problem. Quite a few blocks were recycled to make 427 blocks.
@rickschlosser6793
@rickschlosser6793 4 ай бұрын
@@dennisford2000 Sure, but I have read and Nick has mentioned this as well, that specifically the ‘side oiler’ version of the 427 can only be bored 0.030” over. I don’t think this applies to the non ‘side oiler’ or ‘regular’ version of the 427. I actually had a 360 FE in my first pickup. 1973 F-100. I am somewhat familiar with this series of engines. (Although in no way am I an expert)
@johnfriend862
@johnfriend862 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely correct
@johncornell3665
@johncornell3665 4 ай бұрын
Glad you got the dyno fixed. Always enjoy your new videos. Thanks Nick and crew!
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage 4 ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@robertorhymes
@robertorhymes 4 ай бұрын
The 427 didn't breakdown but Nick's dyno made him frown Nick ain't the kind of guy to play around So now it's time to hear that exhilerating V8 sound and this 427 is one of the best pound for pound On Nick's Garage It's always something exciting he's finding and a big engine he's never shy of firing The dyno's no longer near expiring Thanks Nick and George
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage 4 ай бұрын
Always a pleasure to hear from Roberto Rhymes.
@robertorhymes
@robertorhymes 4 ай бұрын
@@NicksGarage Bless your heart
@jeffdyer8541
@jeffdyer8541 4 ай бұрын
Most 427 s had screw in freeze plugs. That might be an early 406 they also had cross bolt mains. Ford did use 406 blocks as 427s in the beginning.
@scotthultin7769
@scotthultin7769 4 ай бұрын
Nick is the most important tool in the shop
@MrT01582
@MrT01582 4 ай бұрын
Nick would say the coffee machine was 🤣🤣
@hoffelman2062
@hoffelman2062 4 ай бұрын
Really happy about the new video, keep up the work Nick and the team!
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@davejohnson7782
@davejohnson7782 4 ай бұрын
Hey Nick side oiler has screw in frost plugs fe 427 has press in welch plugs , awesome video Nick
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 4 ай бұрын
Yep
@kl1200r
@kl1200r 4 ай бұрын
as a Ford guy , i just learned something about the side oiler. thank you sir
@4ondflor-old
@4ondflor-old 4 ай бұрын
Those are some healthy numbers and those carbs look great on there
@njseashorechas2698
@njseashorechas2698 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to educate us Nick. Love the Fords!
@gersonhay984
@gersonhay984 4 ай бұрын
I hope we get to see it in the Car.
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage 4 ай бұрын
Stay tuned! Next episode.
@ericball6000
@ericball6000 4 ай бұрын
@@NicksGarage cool
@bradchandler6967
@bradchandler6967 4 ай бұрын
So I commented on part 1 about the oil leak and I'm back. My setup was an original Ford one. Same Holley carbs but mine were mounted normally, with the primaries in the front. I had the Ford air cleaner with the "Thunderbird 390" badge made into the ribs near the front. Original fuel log and linkages as well. I had that on a 390 in my '67 Fairlane GT with a toploader 4spd.. I had brake booster issues !! Unless you were totally off the throttle and downshifting, the pedal was hard as a rock. Had no vacuum gauge so can't tell you what it was, but definitely not enough ! Kinda surprised yours didn't make more power than it did, given the cam and heads. Glad you were able get the dyno back up relatively easily !
@johnd4273
@johnd4273 4 ай бұрын
Great video. That's nice flat torque for a street cobra. It will be nice to see you replacing the oil seal on the inlet as this is a common issue and people have different ways of installing.
@vincentlane4894
@vincentlane4894 4 ай бұрын
🇺🇸I still have my 427. I started saving for my first car when I was 12 yrs old, bought at 14, a 1967 Ford Fairlane with a 427 true “cross bolt main side oiler”. Back then it was big solid flat tappet cams that made me daydream in school and forced me to rush home (or skip class) and just start it and visibly watch the doors shake, that alone was all worth it, having not being able to drive yet. I pulled the motor all those years ago, l knew I had something REAL special, even at 14 lol. Those were the days!!!
@andyaguirre345
@andyaguirre345 4 ай бұрын
its still a 427 . great job Nick. From Houston, Texas Love you channel.
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage 4 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@MaverickNutron
@MaverickNutron 4 ай бұрын
I just KNEW that you would have the dyno repaired in short order! Thanks again for the “sweet music” of that FE roaring on the dyno!!! My ‘65 F100 sports a ‘mild’ 390 4V from a ‘66 Mercury Wagon - she’s a bit more “peppy” than the original 352 2V…Hee Hee Hee
@bilinda508
@bilinda508 4 ай бұрын
Love to see Mr. Nick road test this 2000lb car with this beast 427!! Not sure if the tires will ever stop spinning!! Lol
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage 4 ай бұрын
We will find out.
@capicolaspicy
@capicolaspicy 4 ай бұрын
Bada-bing, bada-boom, you nailed it Nick! What a sweet 427!
@todddenio3200
@todddenio3200 4 ай бұрын
Most of the 427 Cobras did not actually have 427's in them but they had 428's because there were not enough 427's available.
@med1273
@med1273 4 ай бұрын
WRONG WENT TO 428 BECAUSE DOT RULES TOOK EFFECT IN 1966 POWER TO WEIGHT WAS THE PROBLEM DOT FIXED HOW MUCH
@jackfishcampbell6745
@jackfishcampbell6745 4 ай бұрын
​@med1273 Either way the 427s put out more power , but then they were both overpowered .
@darrellsomers5427
@darrellsomers5427 Ай бұрын
Correct ford stoped building the 427, so Shelby had no choice but too use the 428 ,much longer stroke and didn't like high RPM's like the shorter stroke 427
@danielhildebrand6892
@danielhildebrand6892 4 ай бұрын
When you hear Nick go Wow you know it’s good. Good to see an old FE impress Nick!
@robertwheatley2471
@robertwheatley2471 4 ай бұрын
500 Torque @ 3900 RPM is really good. For a street engine I always prefer the lower RPM Torque number since that's where the engine lives the vast majority of the time..
@anthonymavrick7238
@anthonymavrick7238 4 ай бұрын
Great to see the Dyno running healthy again, Great job
@olemansailor6519
@olemansailor6519 4 ай бұрын
The 427 isn't the only ford engine to have cross bolted main bearing caps. The 406 also came that way. I don't know any tells on the 427/406 to let me know what I'm looking at other than the block/casting numbers. If anyone else knows a tell I would like to know. Being a tri-power isn't a tell. The 390 and 406 could both be had with a tri-power. I'm not sure if the 406 tri-power intake could bolt up to the 427 but I'm not sure about that either. The 406 and 427 are so rare I've not had much exposure to them. One of the coolest things I have been exposed to was a 1962 4 door galaxy with a 4 speed and a 406 tri-power. I'm sure it was a very low production number but my buddy was using it as his daily driver. Cars are meant to be driven.
@adriandeluchin5982
@adriandeluchin5982 4 ай бұрын
No, we are the one's that should be thanking you Nic & the team for another Gr8 show👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@samuelgoodman2825
@samuelgoodman2825 4 ай бұрын
The best camera work on YT.
@Carcrafter7165
@Carcrafter7165 4 ай бұрын
I’m glad you’re going to reseal the intake to solve the oil leak issue. Thanks Nick.
@chrischiampo7647
@chrischiampo7647 4 ай бұрын
500+HP at 6000 RPM’s is My Guess Nick 😀😊😀 Great Job Manny and Crew on Fixing The Dyno Absorber Seal 🥵😀😊👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Thanks George Excellent Footage as Always 😎👍🏼
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 4 ай бұрын
You left me in Suspense I just watched part 1 yesterday .
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage 4 ай бұрын
Welcome back.
@timbrown9731
@timbrown9731 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I figured it was a solid lifter. I could even hear it through my TV which is pretty cool when you had it at a certain rpm Nick.
@formerice
@formerice 4 ай бұрын
Owned 2 427 Holman and Moody top oilers, years ago. Came out of a boat. Really stout motors!
@JerryM-p2v
@JerryM-p2v 4 ай бұрын
Yes built by real engine builders.
@mikef.1000
@mikef.1000 4 ай бұрын
Great to watch... love a good dyno sesh, and even more when knowledge, experience and enthusiasm are shovelled into the mix. Thanks Nick!
@johnkufeldt3564
@johnkufeldt3564 4 ай бұрын
Cheers from Calgary Nick (and Manny and the "A: team) . Just a bit surprised that you missed the side oiler plugs, but all respect for admitting a mistake
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 4 ай бұрын
It's not a Mopar. BTW how many have YOU actually seen?
@stephensowell9578
@stephensowell9578 4 ай бұрын
Wow. I bet that motor in my old 67 Galaxy would make it kick my ass. The 390 did a fair job.
@joshswitzer3327
@joshswitzer3327 Ай бұрын
40 degrees of trimming is the sweet spot
@budburr66
@budburr66 4 ай бұрын
To fix casting porosity, put a shop vacuum on the oil filler, spray brake clean on the porous spot, wait 10 minutes for the brake clean to dry and then apply high temp super glue while under vacuum.
@mikedimaio1237
@mikedimaio1237 4 ай бұрын
Less than 5:1 power to weight ratio, I hope the owner buys the best drag radials around, he is going to need them. Nice job guys.
@jeffhopper3526
@jeffhopper3526 4 ай бұрын
What a torque curve, Engine is a wonderful beast.
@leonardhirtle3645
@leonardhirtle3645 4 ай бұрын
Every time I watch your videos I learn something new. Thank you Nick.
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage 4 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@scottb8175
@scottb8175 4 ай бұрын
Ford 427's went into a relatively high number of inboard engine speed boats in the sixties. Most were top oilers.
@johnkennedy8452
@johnkennedy8452 4 ай бұрын
Hey there Nick, I’m sorry to hear about your problems with the Dyno but I’m glad you are back up and running! . Love your show and hope you don’t have any other issues and a Happy belated Birthday
@calavanjodigger1485
@calavanjodigger1485 4 ай бұрын
What a beautiful flat torque curve ...that will just keep pulling hard !!
@mgcarr61camaro91
@mgcarr61camaro91 4 ай бұрын
Those are great numbers for the engine ! That cobra will be fun to drive ! Thanks nick !👍👍
@CarelessGamer15
@CarelessGamer15 4 ай бұрын
Hi Nick, you are right, the linkage came in that setup from the factory. I recently saw a video from Uncle Tony's Garage where he talks about it
@FreedomRock44
@FreedomRock44 4 ай бұрын
love a 427!!!! Good Job Nick!!!
@peterandrews955
@peterandrews955 4 ай бұрын
Another Fantastic Show thanks Nick & George !😊
@biscuitboy3617
@biscuitboy3617 4 ай бұрын
That engine block is known as "Top Oiler", just like all the other FE engine blocks 352, 390, 428, etc. because when you pull off the intake manifold, you'll see the main oil feed galley running down the lifter valley and feeding off from there. Just fine for street or drag racing. The Side Oiler was born out of the need to keep the crank oiled during NASCAR racing where the engine was subjected to 6000+ RPMs for long periods of time. The Top Oiler would not keep up with the supply demands in those conditions.
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 4 ай бұрын
Semantics... We always reduced oil volume to the top end to prevent flooding. Side oiler gives priority to the mains.
@markcatcash4688
@markcatcash4688 4 ай бұрын
I bought a new 427 Side oiler block from Ford for $350 if I remember correctly in the mid 80's..Built it for my 69 Mustang that was a factory 428CJ car..Wish I had kept that car
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 4 ай бұрын
I love the FE, those heads are likely out of the box and the valve springs are weak for this cam. My 390FE revs cleanly to 6500 and makes 488 lbs ft and 509 hp. But even then, in a Cobra this is perfect. The sweet spot! It makes all of the power it needs.
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 4 ай бұрын
The Ford factory replacement blocks were side oiler, crossbolted, screw in plugs, and 390 bore.... Boreable to 427+ size. Buddy had one he built as a 390 and put 3 x 2s on it and factory cast iron tube looking headers.
@dondakota920
@dondakota920 4 ай бұрын
I heard that Shelby shopped many cobras with a 428 because they were cheaper, but if a customer complained he would swap it out for the 427 side oiler. Makes me wonder what this really is.
@jimmillet1442
@jimmillet1442 4 ай бұрын
Actually all street cobras got the 428 but all the competition cobras got the side oiler.I am sure at least a few 428 engines were changed out for the 427 but you had to be really clued in back then to know shelby was using the 428 blocks in the regular cobra.
@dondakota920
@dondakota920 4 ай бұрын
@@jimmillet1442 I was a child then so I don't have 1st hand knowledge but what I read was they were advertised to have the 427 side oiler but was soon switched to the cheaper 428 that was a mild engine compared to the 427. I'm sure some buyers were clueless and some thought bigger is better, but if I was buying an exotic car I'd want the exotic motor in it, not a mild engine with less HP. Imagine opening the hood on your Countach and seeing a SBC motor. On the other hand there are a lot of Jaguars driving around with a SBC motor and it'd prefer that to the XJ6 motor. They can be a money pit without the coolness factor of the V12 engine. A bigger WTF is a VW beetle motor in a Porsche.
@dondakota920
@dondakota920 4 ай бұрын
@@jimmillet1442 what do you suppose nick had on his dyno?
@jimmillet1442
@jimmillet1442 4 ай бұрын
@@dondakota920 that's easy,a 427 top oiler.
@dondakota920
@dondakota920 4 ай бұрын
@@jimmillet1442 how can you tell it's not a 428?
@BrandonLeeBrown
@BrandonLeeBrown 4 ай бұрын
Ford sold service replace parts for every part for at least 10 years after the last model year for the parts. The last year for the 427 was 1968, so a replacement cylinder block was available at least through 1978. The last year for the 428 was 1970, so a replacement cylinder block was available through 1980. Not all service replacement parts were exact matches for the original parts. In the 1970's the service replacement 427 block was made to replace both the solid lifter and hydraulic lifter versions. It came with at least one soft plug and drilling instructions for the lifter conversion. It was a high nickel side oiler block. The 1970's 428 service replacement block was a 391 truck engine block, that was very heavy and had an external oil passage. It was bored to the 428 bore and the external oil passage was plugged.
@Gerry-K
@Gerry-K 4 ай бұрын
Shelby used 427 Mid rise dual quads. Anyhow, That is one strong 427!
@walterhubicki5207
@walterhubicki5207 4 ай бұрын
22:35 I love watching the smoke in the front carburetor swirling in a vortex!!!
@SteveTeresaQuietLife
@SteveTeresaQuietLife 4 ай бұрын
Another great test at the Doc's office , cheers guys
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage 4 ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@blinkie1523
@blinkie1523 4 ай бұрын
Nick you have the Best Team on the planet and hey those were real impressive numbers too, Pity about the minor oil leaks but I'm sure you will sort them too. Awesome video thanks once again Nick & George.
@elainestamper3873
@elainestamper3873 4 ай бұрын
The sideoiler had better oiling for high RPM racing ! The early 427 had the same oil system as the 390 engine. I took my 390 Galaxie to 6500 on a regular basis with no problems!
@richardfehr1838
@richardfehr1838 4 ай бұрын
That seal is a mechanical seal, very common in industrial pumps. They are usually very durable unless there is particulate in the water. Their weakness is the sealing parts are brittle. Nick's bad seal was probably dropped sometime between manufacture and installation. This started a crack, the results of which you can see in the picture of the broken seal.
@timr31908
@timr31908 3 ай бұрын
Your Dino needs to be strong like a Ford 9-inch rear end
@brianbloom1799
@brianbloom1799 4 ай бұрын
I don't really like ford engines, But I have to say This motor has some guts. Real stump puller
@stephenwest798
@stephenwest798 4 ай бұрын
Great video, always heard the term side oiler for the 427 Fords and now I know what it means, thanks Nick.
@larrytucker2938
@larrytucker2938 4 ай бұрын
Considering you're running through mufflers, all those numbers are good. I drove a street version original with a tunnel ram and it hit 140mph easy on the street. It was for sale for $3,500. but I was 17 and broke...would have killed me anyway😂
@HowardKellogg-s4e
@HowardKellogg-s4e 4 ай бұрын
Carb linkage was originally progressive. That's why the throttle levers are on the passenger side. To bring the front carb primaries closer to the center of the engine. The front one is the one you cruse on.
@fortyshooter1
@fortyshooter1 4 ай бұрын
That will be a very nice 427 for the street in a light Cobra! 3.50 rear gear is all you will need.
@tomstrum6259
@tomstrum6259 4 ай бұрын
Mid '60's 3.75" stroke big blocks Need Rpm to get decent Ford intended HP Otta this race pedigree motor....'Cept for maybe Stump pulling beater Truck or somthin......
@Dayandcounting
@Dayandcounting 4 ай бұрын
That is a really nice power curve for a street car and in that Cobra it should be scary quick.
@uhfnutbar1
@uhfnutbar1 4 ай бұрын
that crazy it worth more as a early non side - oiler The 427 V8 was introduced in 1963 as a "top-oiler", changed to a side-oiler in 1965. Despite the "427" designation, its true displacement was 425.98 cu in (6,981 cc)
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 4 ай бұрын
427 are 426 428 are 427 452 are the powerhouses.
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 4 ай бұрын
If it shipped with the 428 tuned the way they did, it was the same power but more streetable with the Mississippi River torque band and hp where you could get a without straining the engine. I am reasonably sure that this is either a 428 CJ or a 427 with a cam ground to pull like one. That one will hook up and you will have your hands full.. Sweet engine!
@charlesangell_bulmtl
@charlesangell_bulmtl 4 ай бұрын
Thank you Nick...didn't see as much of the Dyno repair as I'd have liked, but seeing the offending seal assembly works🤌
@mainiac4pats
@mainiac4pats 4 ай бұрын
Thank you Manny, Robert and of course you too Nick. You know what you do when you find out it’s not a side oiler? You take it from there!!!
@invoxicated
@invoxicated 4 ай бұрын
Pre 65 427 Ford FEs were Top oilers.
@richardmoerke9329
@richardmoerke9329 4 ай бұрын
That is one heck of a group of guys you have there Nick! You break they’re fixing it! Lol!!! Take a team. Good video.
@heywhatsthatsmell
@heywhatsthatsmell 3 ай бұрын
Maybe the owner calls it a side oiler because oil was leaking down the sides of the block ?
@kenzollweg1304
@kenzollweg1304 4 ай бұрын
Hello from Detroit, love the Chanel nick ,keep it up
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@tonyziogas7625
@tonyziogas7625 4 ай бұрын
NICK'S GARAGE ALWAYS NUMBER ONE
@douglasb9105
@douglasb9105 4 ай бұрын
Happy Labor Day to you guys! We ALL sure enjoy the fruits of your labor!
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! You too!
@donfoster5576
@donfoster5576 4 ай бұрын
Don't need the background music... it interferes with Nick and the engine sound.
@barryknodel9654
@barryknodel9654 3 ай бұрын
Apparently,background noise guy, doesnt listen
@davidbrown4180
@davidbrown4180 4 ай бұрын
Happy Birthday Nick A Little Late Thank You For Everything You Do 😊
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage 4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@edsmachine93
@edsmachine93 4 ай бұрын
Nice 427 Nick.👍 Nice dyno test. Thanks for sharing.
@Mrtn-gi6mp
@Mrtn-gi6mp 4 ай бұрын
All I know is my built 71 Charger R/T 440 4spd w/456posi rears has thee most beat downs victory’s of Chevys 454, Olds 455 , Buicks 455,Firebird 455, Roarrunner dual carbs w/o engine hood … etc etc = $300/month ins premiums in early 80s back then , of course I brought it to the streets .. insurance companies made me do it.
@davidtreichelpppj5304
@davidtreichelpppj5304 4 ай бұрын
In 1965 my neighbor used to auto cross his FORD COBRA ... I got a ride in it once ...
@walterfurian8806
@walterfurian8806 4 ай бұрын
Nick Torque is king on the street @ 5500 rpm the engines not working hard and in that go cart of a body his neck will snap !
@kenmarsh
@kenmarsh 4 ай бұрын
Gentleman..... write today's date on the calendar, "Nick made a mistake!" What is miniscule travesty! We still love you Nick!
@jackmigge1624
@jackmigge1624 4 ай бұрын
That engine is a bear Nick !! bravo !
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