.44 Caliber Black Powder Revolver Test (In Ballistics Gel)

[@shanepitzer4126]

That simple round ball does an impressive amount of damage at modest velocity. Enjoyed the vid, thanks for sharing!

[@AzAirgunner.]

Thank you very much, I appreciate that and appreciate u checkin it out!! I was definitely surprised on how well it did and the amount of penetration we were getting, was a fun one for sure. Thanks again!! Plenty on the way😁👍.

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Definitely not a slouch. Good old school demonstration. Still a viable option for some folk. Not terribly practical. But some folk can avail themselves to self defense with these options. Thank you.

[@thinkinsidetheboxsquarecir3303]

I can't believe that these weapons actually won wars

[@ATruckCampbell]

​@@thinkinsidetheboxsquarecir3303Caseless ammo pistol.

[@Pmedic605]

More damage than I expected. Pretty cool.

[@brothercody7338]

Great test, amazing results, Hollywood wasn't off by showing holes straight through guys when clint eastwood shot this in the westerns

[@bobconnor1210]

To anyone doing this fun stuff, it’s good to cover the face of your chrony with some Saran Wrap so it doesn’t get goopy with bp residue (corrosive) and ball grease. Good video.

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@bobconnor1210 Thank you very much!! Appreciate the tip.. Plenty on the way my friend.🍻

[@charlesphillips5906]

Great video. I used to shoot a lot of black powder but never saw it gel tested. Enjoyed it.

[@durstondarden8765]

I've been shooting black powder since the early seventies, and I've been telling people that they kill all out of proportion to their weight and size.. if you put a piece of bone in ballistic gel, and hit it, you'd see a whole different ballgame..

[@garrettschienschang7898]

Any chance of you doing the same test again, but with a conical?

[@jacspring5459]

I have that same Pietta target model = great revolver. You can use 40 grains of Pyrodex to push that velocity. Interesting results! Thanks!

[@dawsonmorgan9289]

Fun fact. you can use a steel ball bearing or slingshot ammo to create a hollow point round ball! After you load the lead ball in normally, take the steel ball and place it on top of the lead ball. Then use the loading lever to press the steel ball into the lead. I tried this out and couldn't believe the results. The ball only penetrated 9 inches into my homemade ballistic gell, but it completely flattened out to the side of a 13 gauge slug. Using different sized steel balls gives you more or less expansion

[@yetanothermichael3702]

I’d love to see these results compared to a conical.

[@onentc-pt5go]

That's awesome. One of the best tests I ever seen. Blackpowder is pretty cool.

[@dustinh4175]

Interesting results. That's a crazy amount of penetration.

[@SigmaSheepdog]

Very cool test! It would be ineresting to see a test using conical slugs instead of balls. The penetration would probably be similar, but wound cavity damage may be a bit worse.

[@daleweller5193]

The Lyman manual says 36 gr fff is going 995 fps, with a round ball !

[@peytonnorris7244]

That is insane!

[@mypetvelociraptor]

Wow😮! That’s crazy and such little velocities. I’m so impressed. Imagine 35 grains of 777.

[@vincentthekeeper2163]

You're getting .38+P performance out of your black powder revolver around 950 fps. there's tests online

[@codered7453]

With 38 grains of 10+ year old 777 I get 1180 fps (6 shot average) from a 3rd Gen Colt 1860 with .454 143gr RB. And with 220 gr conical (I only had 2 with me in my box of roundballs at the time while having access to a cool guys chronograph at the Wateree range) but they were both 1100 + fps on his LabRadar with the same 38 gr charge. There is room for more if I don't use wads I can get 43 grains in but I think the velocity probably wouldn't change drastically. 38 gr is my standard self defense load and the Colt is my EDC. You rarely see anyone on this platform using 777 so it's good to know what it'll do.

[@mypetvelociraptor]

@@codered7453 thanks 🙏 😊. Yeah I love me some triple 7. I wonder how much a chronograph would cost.

[@codered7453]

@mypetvelociraptor LabRadar chronographs are more expensive, ($450.00+ ) but I will eventually buy a cheaper one or a used one possibly. It's nice to have access to one, but I'm in the process of looking for a house in NC with some property so until I can get somewhere I can shoot unrestricted I just don't need one. I rarely go to the range because it's an hour trip one way. I would like to see more people on KZbin using 777 because that's really where the power is. I'm always a little disappointed to see everyone using Goex or equivalent when velocity testing and then they act disappointed with getting low numbers out of their blackpowder pistols. The full size Colts and Remingtons are capable of very impressive power but not with 3FG real blackpowder. 4FG was what was used in the late 1800s and that was apparently very powerful stuff (Hazards Fine Revolver Powder). When I do finally get a chronograph, I'll be sure to post a video or something to demonstrate what they're really capable of.

[@mypetvelociraptor]

@@codered7453 that would be awesome! Yeah, I love me some triple 7 also👏

[@MmMm-f2y7c]

I ran down a rabbit hole thanks for answering my thought process so I didn't have to do it lol

[@davidfisher12865]

A nasty sucking chest wound, yes these things killed a lot of men.

[@gctdonyre]

Have you checked if the inner cylinder and the rim are of the same diameter (the lead ring isn't a good indicator)? Machine burrs could make rim just a tiny bit smaller than the actual cylinder so the lead ball that gets pushed inside may be smaller than cylinder causing gaps where pressure could leak causing loss of velocity and potential chain fire.

[@cjjams7930]

So I was gonna get a PCP air gun, but upon finding out about these ....yes I never knew the old models were powder loaded like this lol ....I need one

[@trenton1458]

Bro trust it’s worth it i ordered a colt 1851 sheriff for 360$ and the cheapest pcp pistol I was looking to get was like 1250$ I did also get a holster, caps, balls, and if you don’t wanna buy all the extras just go with pryrodex pellets for less effort

[@patrickscalia5088]

I'd check out Midway online. I buy from them all the time, including the last three cap and ball revolvers I purchased. Midway typically sells them new in the box for less than the price used beaters of the same model typically go for on Gunbroker. If you catch one of Midway's frequent sales, it's amazing what you can get BP pistols from them for. They also typically have a wide variety of models in stock. Natchez Shooter's Supply also has lower-than-expected prices on BP guns but they typically don't have near as broad an inventory as Midway. If you're really serious about using a BP gun for self or home defense then you should look at the AGC line of double-barrel shotgun pistols. The Diablo is their most popular model and is probably the most concealable double-barrel 12 gauge shotgun made. It has a 6 inch barrel. I own their Desperado 12 gauge with 11 inch barrels. The Desperado is also available with 8 inch barrels and I believe that's probably the best of the lot. The Desperado is also available in 20 gauge. They're modern firearms that use a 209 shotshell primer and with a heavy loading they can probably kill anything that walks the earth. I loaded mine with 11 .31 caliber balls on top of about 80 grains of 777. Upon shooting it I realized that if I used that loading for home defense I would probably kill half the people in my apartment building along with the intruder so now I keep a lighter loading of #4 buck in it. It's the first thing I grab anytime I have to go check out a mysterious noise in the home at zero-dark-thirty hours.

[@kanrakucheese]

Glad to see non-potato C&B test. HOpe to see a 36 and Walker some day.

[@bluescatreimer]

Cool test, thanks for posting.

[@AzAirgunner.]

Thank you buddy, I appreciate u checkin it out!!

[@bluescatreimer]

@@AzAirgunner. Your welcome, I look forward to them.

[@G.E.Outdoors]

Thanks for putting in that work bro. That was awesome! I appreciate ya!

[@AzAirgunner.]

No Thank you bro, I appreciate u letting me borrow ur setup to test. Had a blast making it. Glad u enjoyed it!! Gonna have to get me one now lol. Thanks again!!

[@tylerwill5250]

Thanks for this test! Well done

[@Patrick-ih4oe]

Elmer Kieth liked shooting his 36 cal. cap and ball and described it as being a better game bullet than the best 38 Special load .

[@DeepSouthEdc]

Sick af. Nobody mess with G.e. You'll end up like those blocks. Lol. Awesome test, cousins!! I'll see y'all real soon irl.

[@Walkercolt1]

Try using the oooold LEE .451 cal. 183-190 grain roundnose backed by about 36-37 grains of FFFg. The loss of 50-75 FPS muzzle velocity means nothing at 100 yards. The conical gives MUCH higher impact and accuracy beyond 35 yards. Conical MUST be PURE lead, or they are nearly impossible to seat. I use Pyrodex P and real tallow for lube. .44 Special factory duplication load. Today, almost ALL lead has tin or antimony in it that hardens it and makes cast bullets lighter than spec. I sort my cast bullets by weight for accuracy.

[@HenryEberhardt-qs4ui]

Any videos using the 45cal Conversion Cylinder in this Remington ???????

[@theoriginalOSOK]

30 grains is actually pretty light for 44 Cal. You can put 40 grains under a round ball and get a lot more velocity. Pyrodex, even more. Great review though. Thanks! Easy to see why this was the standard for the time period and why the 45 Colt was designed to reproduce it.

[@G.E.Machines]

Thanks for testing it twice bro. That second one did surprise me. Now I gotta get me the snub nose I want so you can test it

[@ATruckCampbell]

And they get get spicier. With a hot powder and conicals I have seen up to 1000 fps out of the 8 inch barrel. That equates to medium to hot 9mm in ft-lbs.

[@curly__3]

Badass! Thanks. I'll definitely check out your bro's channels.

[@JimD410]

Cool test!

[@rangetime6779]

Very unique test, thanks for that. It surely is powerful. There is nothing dirtier to shoot then a blackpowder revolver. Bet you didn't like cleaning it afterwords.

[@thinkinsidetheboxsquarecir3303]

Impressive!😮

[@blindtrace7220]

I get so much good data from this ghetto channel. Keep up the good work.

[@charlesphillips5906]

A little off topic but based on your channel name I thought you might know. Is a gas piston air rifle easier to cock than a spring? Shopping for an air rifle and not very knowledgeable.

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@charlesphillips5906 Sorry bud just saw this. So yes and no, very dependent. A gas pistol will be very smooth but usually have a lil more resistance through the stroke. A springer will be easier to cock depending on power output but a lil more gritty feeling and sounding. Weihrauch has some of the best and most accurate springers u can get ur hands on. Also can be tuned to perfection. Hope that helps😁👍.

[@richki.24]

that's a sweet revolver

[@michaellavaughnrobinson]

Awesome test. I wouldn't want to take one of those round balls. No sir.

[@david9783]

Me, neither!

[@nokoolaid]

30gr sounds a little low. I bet it could do better. The walkers did 50-60g blackpowder. I would think this could do 40.

[@averycamden4730]

I use 35gr with a wad for compression. Mine seems to burn really dirty at 40gr even though there is plenty of room for more. I also feel the acuracy drops

[@tommcqueen3145]

👍

[@scottythebody0811]

Cool!

[@richki.24]

nice

[@Sport--willow]

Good video. Get rid of the Hornady balls and use cast lead .... It'll really surprise ya

[@mypetvelociraptor]

Great video bro. I just started a black powder Channel called pewpewpew. Still in its infancy.🇺🇸💨✊

[@TransformersHoarder]

Yo Yo!

[@AzAirgunner.]

Wazzz up🤙

[@TransformersHoarder]

@@G.E.Outdoors my pleasure

[@brownwrench]

Will definitely mess you up.

[@MrStickthrower2001]

The Army versions in .44 were designed and intended for cavalry troopers to kill horses with them. They worked.

[@dirkjensen969]

😂❤horses can't carry guns, bro

[@MrStickthrower2001]

@dirkjensen969 horses carry cavalry, and a cavalry trooper without a horse, well, isn't. The Colt 1860 Army was specifically upscaled from the Colt Navy in .36 specifically to be able to kill horses.

[@patrickscalia5088]

That's the Walker Colt that had that official requirement. The army's official specs were for a revolver powerful enough to kill a man "or a horse" at 100 yards. If any pistol can do that, it's the Walker behemoth. But don't try to carry it in a belt holster. Unless you're wearing extra-strong suspenders. Josey Wales could no more have comfortably carried two of them than he could carry a Springfield rifle on his belt. Since the Walkers were never intended for belt carry, but instead for carrying in a pommel holster on the saddle, it wasn't really a problem. The later Dragoon and then 1860 Army were both attempts to get a powerful pistol comfortably into a belt holster that wouldn't drag the wearer's pants down to his ankles every time he walked.

[@dustinh4175]

Now imagine how much penetration a cannon ball in the civil war would get.

[@Mitutumuch]

you get hit with a ball, yoire not coming back. youre losing whatever got hit, and your gonna bleed like youve never bled before

[@LandCrow]

No lol, maybe if it’s from a muzzleloading rifle with a heavy charge of powder but from a revolver they don’t even compare to a 9mm. A 147 grain 9mm hollow point is 7 grains heavier than these round balls and easily expands to .50 or .60 cal, not to meant it’s going a couple hundred feet per second faster. People survive those all the time and practically never lose any limbs after.

[@FoulPet]

​@@LandCrow delusions are fun. What expanded 9mm can make it through 2 blocks and a jug of water?

[@patrickscalia5088]

This may or may not be true. Shot placement is everything. A slow lead ball in the right place will drop a man, whereas a massive slug hitting in a nonlethal area (say a finger) at high velocity may not even slow the person down. Wyatt Earp was fond of telling people that it's not fancy bullets or guns or fast shooting that win gunfights, it's marksmanship. I'll say it again, because it's of paramount importance: shot placement is EVERYTHING if you're shooting to save your own life. The type of bullet, its mass or velocity are all secondary factors. Practice, practice, practice! As BP firearms are typically much cheaper to shoot than cartridge firearms you really don't have any excuse whatsoever not to be at least a halfway-decent shot with the pistol of your choice.

[@FoulPet]

@patrickscalia5088 placement with a 25 acp is a very narrow margin

[@LandCrow]

Not many people are 2 gel blocks and a water jug wide. Did you miss the part where I said 50-60 cal? The round ball is like 45 at best? You can get plenty of 9mm that will penetrate a whole gel block with expansion. If you need more penetration than that get some hard cast solid 9mm but at that point you might as well move up to a more powerful caliber that will put both to shame since the only real purpose for those would be bear or moose defense.

[@truenomads1508]

Next you gotta carefully saw a cross about 40% of the way thru a ball and test it. Do another with a hole drilled to the center. Do another doubleshotted (2 balls, same charge). Can also drill an 1/8" hole thru and tap a steel cone in to fit (essentially a lead saboted steel slug) and do a material penetration test. Theres a TON of little stuff you can do to alter the outcome.