44 Magnum Underwood Ammo Extreme Hunter - **Magic** Bullet ?

[@ronnieskaggs8148]

Federal has the Hammer down 44 magnum round designed in accordance with Henry Rifles. The muzzle velocity is 1710 FPS with a 270 grain bullet. Not too shabby.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

I am going in to work so I’ll have to wait until this afternoon to watch but I am interested in this as I am an Underwood Ammo fan.

[@paulstan9828]

Hey Buffalo!! 😁👍

[@tmolne117]

based on my calculations, this round delivers similar Jules on target to 30-30. Which is pretty amazing for a pistol cartidge. I love .44 because of the options you get with the ammo. You can run em real hot, and use everything from a fast, zippy 160 round, to a ground pounding 300 grain round. It all depends on what you need it to do, and it does it.

[@TargetSuite]

👍👍

[@NELLY-jg2rx]

I'm in Indiana and have a ton of restrictions on rifle calibers for Deer Hunting, I may just get a 44 MAG seems like it's the most versatile pistol caliber for lever guns

[@danoneill2846]

Many Thanks can't go wrong with a 44 .

[@TargetSuite]

Amen!

[@vonsprague7913]

Firstly, thank you for another excellent video always such a pleasure. I'm a Brit but I've hunted Stag, Wild Boar and small game across the UK and Europe in my time plus 20 years in the military. For Buffalo or Bear I'd take the copper slug but for everything else I'd use the Hornady rounds which performed incredibly well. The Winchester is a thing of beauty and mechanical precision and a joy to see used well. I did cringe to watch you "plink" with rounds at $2.50 a shot but it is essential to know where a round prints on target. Kind regards from the UK 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@TargetSuite]

Thanks! I appreciate the input from a different geopolitical perspective. I think we share the same take away and that is that for some game animals these Hi-Tech bullets would be appropriate. Mostly where deeper penetration would be a plus. And yes I did go through all 40 rounds that Tom bought to make this video at a cost of $2.50 a round. But in addition to the two boxes that Tom bought me, I bought a box myself and will not be planking with them. They will be reserved for future hunting scenarios😄

[@glennycarroll]

I always enjoy your constant pursuit of shooting adventure, especially where lever guns are involved.

[@scottharmeling5439]

The Hornaday gets the nod for me, the unobtainium is great for those who might need to penetrate body armor or are expecting to have a gunfight where their target is protected. However for me like was mentioned the standard 240 gn weight avoids having sight changes and standardization of a fairly afordable round to load makes the choice between them easy for me. Thank you for yet another great video, and thanks Tom for the Ammo donation.

[@phb7]

Thanks George. Great entrainment. Love the blue smurf flying noodles. And of course the lever gun. P

[@TargetSuite]

Thank you. I appreciate your comments and thank you for watching!

[@dash8465]

I’m in Idaho, I usually carry a Glock 29 with 140gr Underwood Xtreme P’s, but certain months its a 629 plus a Henry Big Boy X loaded with a alternating mix of 240gr Xtreme P’s and 180gr XTP JHP’s. I’ve shot them both at all kinds of stuff, there’s really no stopping the solid copper, and the JHP’s hit juicy stuff like a train. For center fire I buy only underwood.. same price (for the normal stuff) as the big box stores, they hit advertised speeds, top notch finishes and crimping, and its dropped at my door for free ($200+ ships free). Plus they have great 25% off sales sometimes.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

I know some channels have tested pistol bullets from Lehigh Defense extensively in gel, and it seems the claim to fame with the fluted nose is the ability to produce equal or greater permanent wounding after blasting through a hard barrier, as compared to the best hollow point bullets on the market. Didn't seem to matter much what that hard barrier was because the Lehigh round would penetrate gel virtually the same depth every time. Barriers included drywall, sheet metal, auto glass, plywood.

[@Tex_I_Can]

Great to see you during my treadmill time this morning! Those Lehigh bullets are zipping. 💥😳 It almost looks like you could pull it out of the block and load it up again. Thanks again for all that you do.

[@TargetSuite]

Another multi-tasker😄 Thanks for watching and you are welcome!

[@kenkee2011]

Ya had me at 44 Magnum. 😁 Enjoyed this video.

[@TargetSuite]

Thanks Ken!

[@cajunliberty4459]

Hey Mr George. Just wanted to say thanks for the content. I recently bought a single shot Henry in .44mag and some of those 160gr Underwood rounds. Your video answered all of my questions. I'm a fellow Louisianaian and it's good to see a neighbor doing great things like this. You've got a new subscriber and supporter. Keep up the great work!

[@TargetSuite]

Thank you for the sub! And congrats on that Henry. It sure reminds me some of the Handi rifle. And they are so inexpensive. I've been tempted to get one just because.

[@dieselten01]

Appreciate your testing, very informative. After seeing the gel block jump with the 240 I am liking the factory 240 loads. Plus considering the price and the unobtainableness of the other stuff…well…. Plus you have to re-zero your rifle, then zero back when you are out of the few rounds you are able to scrounge up. I am sticking with factory 240 magnum loads, proven performance and better availability and price. Not to mention that you still have no idea how accurate the Underwoods are in your rifle and only Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos could afford to do any serious accuracy testing. Thanks!

[@TargetSuite]

Haha! And I wonder if they would even post their results😉

[@LoisLeuven]

My familiarity with the 44 MAG cartridge began 50 years ago with a RUGER semi auto carbine fitted with a 4X Redfield scope. Remington factory soft tip ammo accounted for more than a few big whitetails when I was stationed in Michigan with USAF. Typical accuracy at 100 yards produces three inch clusters which snobs would say is awful but I managed to shoot into the chest organs of broadside deer with no problem. Thanks for your review.

[@TargetSuite]

Thanks for your comment and thank you for watching! I have that old Ruger Carbine and have made several videos with it. It is my go-to pig gun here at the farm. Of course, it looks a little "weird" with a giant Pulsar thermal scope mounted to it. But it sure is effective.

[@thomcampbell9749]

Wow beautiful video thanks for your research and study on this the cost of ammo these days are ridiculous and your studys have saved some of us big bucks thank you,,,TC

[@robertdunbar5854]

No matter what new bullet comes out, the line of Hornady XTPs just can't be beat ! The only other boolets I could see really needing, in certain extra deep penetration instances, would be a hard cast.

[@TargetSuite]

👍👍

[@georgezink8256]

Hard cast is hard to beat in any caliber

[@thomasosteen6027]

What a beautiful shooting range you have brother. I will try that ammo in my new Henry carbine. Take care and God bless.

[@TargetSuite]

Thank you! I'm blessed for sure!

[@hutehund9519]

Gotta love innovation when it comes to bullet design. But for all the “latest and greatest”, there’s been relatively little change in metallic cartridge design since the advent of smokeless powder. Could it be that brass and lead were the best choices of materials from the onset? I still like my XTPs 🙂 Thanks George, and thanks Tom. Good stuff!

[@TargetSuite]

Thank you Charles. I'm with you and think that the industry is always a chasing the latest and greatest. And that's fine. But nothing will replace good Marksmanship and responsible decisions when in the field.

[@waynehajek6346]

I also agree with y'all on your thinking. Sometimes it seems that they aren't only chasing the latest and greatest, but their tails as well. When my kids and grandkids were growing up, I taught them how to harvest cottontail rabbits with short heavy sticks and rocks, down in the south Texas brush country, to conserve ammo or just to make covert kills in a survival situation. The fps, fpe, and BC were all dependent on the heft and throwing velocity, and shape of the projectile. They learned well.

[@TargetSuite]

@Wayne Hajek That's funny! And for some reason I think it is true as well😉 BTW, I hope you are holding on to that 30-30 Ammo. I hope to be in Lavernia before Christmas.

[@MtnBadger]

Hi, George. I really like the Xtreme series of ammo, people still aren't aware of just how good it really is on a wide scale (of people, that is). Even the often pooh-poohed .380 is brought up to 9mm effectiveness. I, personally like my little, .380 pocket rocket (Keltec P38T) because it's so small and light (and yes, reliable... I've had zero issues) and it hides anywhere and you forget it's on your ankle or in a pocket. I'd like to see all the people who say .380 is garbage" stand in a line in front of me and catch one in the chest, then be reinterviewed with the same question... Oh, wait... They wouldn't be able to answer. I just wonder, will they make it in .35 Rem!?? (It's me again, Margaret). 😉

[@TargetSuite]

I just wonder, was your great- grandfather a pitbull😄

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Black Hills Ammo has produced a .380 round that's supposed to be quite good, with a Lehigh type bullet, but with additional radial cuts in the flutes. It's their Honey Badger load.

[@maconmazanec9459]

Dude, great video! The XTP is the way to go.IMO. Id rather have mass expansion on impact and through the vitals over penetration. Im glad you made this vid. I was on the fence. Marlin 1894 sbl.

[@korpman]

The initial expansion of that handload was impressive. Like serious cavity wound from that there.

[@jimbob465]

My 92win shoots high with any bullet under 240gr. Personally i like the 300gr at 1800fps. Flattens elk and black bear.

[@joebarrett5310]

Hello George! Interesting video. I think after seeing your tests, I might opt to stick with the 240gr XTP. It's wound channel didn't extend as long as the 160gr Lehigh bullet, but at 9" of main wound channel I think that's right on the money for deer and similar when you consider how deep the vitals are on the average deer with a broadside shot. The Lehigh bullets might be a better choice for tougher animals like a good sized oinker though with the deeper overall penetration and longer albeit a bit narrow permanent wound channel. This is what's so cool about the modern era of powder and bullet technology, you can tune your ammo for almost any purpose...when you can find components! Lol! Carry on George, thank you for the vid. I'd love to see some of your testing on other popular lever rifle rounds like 45-70, 38-55, maybe even 375 Winchester, and of course the old tried and true 30-30 and 32 Win Spl.

[@TargetSuite]

Thank you for your very comprehensive comment! I agree with you about sticking with conventional expanding bullets for deer.

[@joebarrett5310]

@@TargetSuite I would expand on that statement and say that a majority of boiler room shots on deer sized animals with the XTP will still pass all the way through

[@ingelri2]

240gr XTPs are what I use also. 1650 fps out of my 20" Rossi 92. Great bullets.

[@JBDRLSOARK]

I’m sure that Underwood ammo is good stuff but I’ve taken several deer with the XTP and it’s always done a great job. I think I’ll stick to what I know. Great video I enjoyed it thanks.

[@TargetSuite]

Thanks. I appreciate your comment! And yes, for most folks the xtp or Speer deep curl will do the trick with room to spare!

[@phigdon3]

Just bought 2 boxes for my Rossi R92 for a possible deer hunt with a range of up to 60 yards with iron sights. At 72, I need to practice and ensure I compensate for velocity being higher than what it's sighted for now.

[@mikebankston4459]

Sounds like you were in South Dakota the same time my family and I were there. Great video! Keep shooting!

[@kirkboswell2575]

👍 I like Underwood's offerings.

[@KAlphonso]

Love the round and the carbine. Great, reliable info. Thanks!

[@finn1728]

Killed a 8 point with the 160 grain underwood with a 12 inch tc encore did good all the way through ran 20 yards 👍🏼

[@TargetSuite]

Thanks for sharing. That's the first I have heard about terminal performance of the FTM bullets from Lehigh defense

[@mot0rhe4d40]

I have a Ruger M77/44 that these could be fun to try in. Of course these days with scarcity and obsurd prices maybe not. Still would like to see how they perform on game.

[@DeathMond.]

Do you cast your own projectiles? A video on your set up and procedures would be nice, if so. Also clay works well to show expansion, is easily reusable and is relatively inexpensive.

[@TargetSuite]

I do not cast my own bullets. I did back in the 70s an early 80s but haven't. I did buy some clay and it was inspired by Mr. Who-tee-hoo. He uses it on his channel. But with high-energy bullets it just disintegrates and doesn't really give you any more information than an exploding watermelon or water jug.

[@easttexan2933]

Morning George. Good to see you my friend. Everything looks so pretty on the farm. The pond is looking great. May I be so bold to suggest a bass fishing video one day? I think that would be very enjoyable to watch. Love the Model 92. That is one mean looking cartridge you have their. Would sure hate to be on the receiving end of that pill.

[@TargetSuite]

A little bass fishing is a great suggestion Max. Next time my son is here with good weather I'll see if we can do a little fishing.

[@dr.froghopper6711]

Love that radar! Good video George! The ballistic gel was interesting. Maybe the LD bullet was tumbling in the gel?

[@TargetSuite]

Lehigh defense bullet was not tumbling. If you're referring to the anomaly in the bullet path that is because of the interaction of the spinning flutes on the bullet nose with the ballistic gel. On the other hand, the XTP bullet did tumble after it expanded

[@dr.froghopper6711]

@@TargetSuite much like other solids that turn into blenders then. I’m impressed!

[@m2gjam139]

Good stuff George as always. I really like the technical support on your videos. I could buy some Underwood bullets for my 444 in 240gr. or 265gr. Although I'm shooting paper these days. I might go for some hogs in Georgia soon. Escape the cold weather Those I would give away. Nobody but me would eat them in my home. To squeamish I suppose. My wife would eat wild game but not often. I like deer, rabbits and hogs. Although I'm not picky. I'll try anything twice. Thanks for the video well done as usual!! I will let you know. I will bring the Marlin 444 and a Mini thirty. I will let you know. How it goes.

[@TargetSuite]

Lehigh defense does offer a 265 grain solid copper wide flat nose bullet. That would be like a freight train out of that 444 Marlin going through a pig!

[@m2gjam139]

@@TargetSuite Thanks for the tip I will get some. Sounds like a great round.. I like to drop them I can't go searching for them anymore Same with deer. I'm getting old my friend. To many year's in service. Catching up to me are you going to hunt with them? If so what do you hunt most?? I might start hunting again people offer to take me often. I can get two for with a bow. Then upstate New York with rifle and Shotgun. There are a lot of deer. Near my home thirty to forty miles East of me it's loaded with deer. Archery only I'm a good Archer so I'm not afraid to take a thirty yard shot. No further I hate to wound any animal then not be able to find it. I have a huge state park near me. No hunting though. But I can hear the rifle fire a couple of times a year. It's the park police shooting them because of car crashes and they other hazards they cause. Thanks for the video well done.

[@TargetSuite]

We've had wet Summers for three years in a row so the deer population has really exploded. So I decided to Harvest one or two dose this year. I got the first 13 weeks ago and will be on the lookout for another mature do sometime between now and the end of season which happens in February. Other than that my only hunting is hog management. I just don't dedicate as much time to be out in the woods as I used to. And that's not necessarily A Bad Thing.

[@m2gjam139]

@@TargetSuite Can you take as many hogs as you want? Because they are a pest. One of the reasons I don't Deer hunt anymore is people here in N.Y.are idiots. A year or so after I retired it was last day of season so more of a get away then hunting . We decided to shoot some I had just got my Ruger Mini thirty the new version. I was sighting it in we also had targets up. Some disgusting hillbilly snuck up on us and stated screaming at us. One my friends told him where to go. Anyway he picked up his rifle almost shouldering it. Anyway I grabbed my rifle and aimed at his head at about fifteen yards. That wasn't me ordinarily but I wasn't going to get zapped because of a real asshole. The best memories hunting for me was when I took a 6 point him with my Bear Kodiak Magnum recurve. Then my first Turkey. But I really enjoyed rabbit hunting with Beagles and shotguns. Those are my best memories hunting. Those Beagles are relentless.a lot of fun. I will start slow see if I can still walk any distance. Sorry for the long comments..

[@InGratitudeIam]

That was a really helpful video, George. I now know that my "calibrated eyes" will be off by at least 4 inches at 3 feet when I get to your advanced age. I now realize that with this high tech ammo, I'll need to set my sights low. This will save me at least $50 in ammo costs. Thanks!

[@TargetSuite]

Definitely a case of talking faster than my brain could calculate. It happens more frequently these days😉

[@victorjohnson7512]

The Underwood 245gr FMJ "range ammo" is great for plinking at half the cost of those fancy ones.

[@TargetSuite]

Thanks for the heads up. Cheaper is better when it comes to plinking for sure!

[@JAFO.]

It would be very interesting & potentially enlightening to see this same gel comparison out of an 8" barrel revolver.

[@edwardschofield6692]

Hi Mr George great video.I hava Marlin 44mag Cowboy think bbl is 24".Shot about 6 Whitetails aprox ,50 yrds5 of 6 drt. The last one shot up in the air so I cranked another one in her ,she went ,40/50 yrds.Also shot 3 with 8 3/8 mod 29.Friend shot at least 3 with T.C Encore bbl length unknown some of his were 100-150yrds.Great bullets. God Bless you.

[@earlmorrison7833]

Wow, Your handload all day long !! Nice. Thanks for the video !!

[@TargetSuite]

I'm with you and thanks for watching!

[@ingelri2]

Nice rub on that tree. Curious to see the buck making it!

[@TargetSuite]

I'd love to meet him too😉

[@philp411]

It appears the X bullet penetrates more, but it doesn't expand. It's a solid. What you see in the gel is "fluid hydraulic effect" left behind in the medium. Whether or not that increases wounding is debatable. I will add that some have expressed concern that the X bullet deflects more easily compared to traditional bullet design/construction.

[@TargetSuite]

Thanks for your comment. [If you're talkin about deflecting inside the animal then my experience in ballistic gel has been that the Lehigh defense bullets track pretty true. The worst performer when it comes to staying in the ballistic gel has always been the Hornady FTX bullets. But having never shot any game with one of their FTM bullets I can't speak to the effectiveness of the Lehigh Defense design. I hope to rectify that sometime in the future on a pig hunt😉

[@philp411]

@@TargetSuite I’d love to see some details about actual hunting experience. I’m talking about initial impact, however.

[@TBullCajunbreadmaker]

Good video George, as much as I like those Underwood bullets I think I have found that the XTP is still the round I will stick with. They might give you an edge at longer distances but if I'm shooting longer distances I'm either going to shoot higher or go with another caliber. It's hard to beat that XTP and besides I have everything down pat already when I shoot them. Now I might try some of them out in my S&W .44 with the 8 1/4" barrel. That stainless gun is a bad mutha at longer distances.

[@TargetSuite]

They're definitely specially bullets and do have their place. I hope to ventilate a big boar with one soon.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

I wonder what the in flight ballistics are with the Lehigh projectiles vs. the XTP hollow point. Gel is obviously a far more dense medium than the atmosphere but the effect is the same, as I'm sure the air pressures around those flutes create some interesting laminar drag compared to the smooth curve of the XTP nose. Wonder if that can be quantified somehow with the Lab Radar with extensive testing. Did you see a dramatic fall off of velocity as compared to more conventional jacketed bullets, TS?

[@44hawk28]

The velocities maybe up but that would cause the bullet actually print low not high. And I've loaded 180 grain hollow points in my seven and a half inch super Blackhawks that have gone out the barrel at over 1700 ft per second. And won't over penetrate like those things will do, and are known to do.

[@TargetSuite]

Great comment. Thanks!

[@jamesweaver9636]

Nice demonstration. Love your videos!

[@TargetSuite]

Thanks. I appreciate your comment and I appreciate you watching!

[@tomcarvelli6464]

In Minnesota expanding bullets are required for deer hunting.

[@joracer1]

Usually heavier or slower bullets will print higher out to 100, because the bullet will be in the barrel longer while the barrel is rising. Hand guns are worse. I seen those bullets shot in balistic gel they make the same wound channel size as hollow points.

[@waynebowman2315]

Underwood makes some awesome ammo, got some 300 grain 44s, hit like a sledge hammer

[@TargetSuite]

I bet those bullets hit hard on both ends:-)

[@kentowens2179]

Nice video. hmmmm, I'd go with the 240 grain for a hunting round. XTP's work well, and are usually very accurate.

[@TargetSuite]

I was really glad to make a video with this premium ammo from Underwood Ammo. It's great stuff and has a place in the field. But for a lot of situations play traditional round like the Hornady XTP or Speer Deep Curl will do just fine.

[@kentowens2179]

@@TargetSuite It was a very good video. Thank you for doing it. It's interesting to see new products tried, and the velocities tested as well. I enjoy watching each of your videos, they're well presented and informative. Keep up the good work,

[@brianneeley9455]

Underwood 245grain hard cast work awesome. My favorite but $ is Federal Swift A Frame 280 grain hits hard with my Henry Big Boy 44 and anything bigger there is cycling problems. Not for Marlin or Winchester it seems though.🤠🦖

[@henrymarlinwy4656]

Your loading gate looks on the stiff side. You should consider a easy loading gate from RRP😊

[@granddad-mv5ef]

I discovered Underwood about four years ago while looking at advertised ratings for 10mm. Unfortunately, as you stated, for the last two years that ammo has been made from unobtainium. But I did save a few rounds for a special occasion and my RIA double stack 1911 loves it.

[@TargetSuite]

Thanks for your comment. I think we both agree that Underwood Ammo is pretty good stuff. Wish I could get more to try it in other calibers as well. Maybe after SHOT Show.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Buffalo Bore, Underwood, DoubleTap, Cor-bon, Grizzly... they all have some pretty hot stuff. Usually cost more, with boutique-like velocity and smaller manufactured lot sizes.

[@sorshiaemms5959]

Hard not to like a 44 mag lever have one would like to see a test on UMC 180 grain 44 mag good video

[@JimS870]

How's your Miroku Winchester 1892 holdin' up? I have two and I've put a few hundred rounds of 44 mag through without a hitch (except they didn't like S&B 44 mag). Some people balk at the tang safety but it's never done wrong by me.

[@TargetSuite]

I love my Miroku Winchesters. My only complaint with the 44 mag is that the chamber isn't cut deep enough for heavy bullets. Other than that all three of them are fantastic. Ask for the tang safety, I think people just like to have something to complain about. Their response to the crossbolt safety on the new Marlins has been unbelievable. Even though they've been in the original Marlins since the '80s😄

[@nosplitcases]

Hello. Enjoy your videos. Is your hearing protection custom?

[@laurence1643]

Both seem pretty effective !

[@svdrifter-landlockedsailin6872]

Another GREAT informative video...Keep'em comin"

[@TargetSuite]

Thanks! Lord willing, I'll keep 'em comin'. Thanks for watching!

[@tedpfenninger4972]

George, lovely model 92! My very limited experience with .44mag lever actions, is that they have more recoil then is comfortable for plinking, Maybe these loads with lighter bullets are more comfortable to shoot? Not that l could afford to plink with them!

[@TargetSuite]

You are right. Full House loads with this little lightweight carbine are definitely an attention getter. But with cast bullets and the right powder, it is both comfortable and affordable to plink with.

[@ronkay1573]

I’d pick the 240gr for deer or wild hogs.

[@coelagos8645]

I really enjoy your videos, so thank you for that. I noticed at the 12:32 minute mark of this one, a sound in the background that resembled some roaring beast. I was curious to know what it may have been & if you had noticed it as well? Keep up the great content, best regards.

[@TargetSuite]

That was a deep exhale😄 I need to be less "expressive".

[@coelagos8645]

@@TargetSuite Ok I'm laughing are you serious?

[@TargetSuite]

That was my best guess. I'm not really sure what it was😄

[@msb2948]

Sounded like a Louisiana heron @12:32, possibly a bobcat as they really can make odd vocalizations.

[@guillermofernandez2586]

Excelente video amigo cuál recomienda paras la. Caza del jabalí 🐗 Saludos desde. Argentina 🇦🇷

[@michaelhogan9053]

I think Lehigh ammo proves better out of actual pistols. Great video and a lot more ammo to pick from in the lever action guns.

[@Na7ure]

Just picked up four boxes of these for my super black hawk out here in Hawaii. They were not cheap but if it’s protecting my family I really didn’t care

[@johnserrano9689]

Can't remember who it was in one of these reviews, he was showing off a new Henry side gate 30-30 if I remember correctly. Walking back up to the camera he was still holding the rear grip like he was when firing (rifle was empty) and lowers the hot as hell barrel onto his left forearm still talking about how awesome the rifle is....then jumping as he burned his arm pretty dam good LoL that was the 2nd best part of the entire video

[@markoharoldoronearmedpoohb7816]

I am a fan of Underwood ammo, mostly 10mm, I Handloading all my 44cal. I have some Lehigh bullets in 9mm for the 350Legend, haven’t did any loading/load work yet! I would to love to see them bullets in 265gr, .430 for the 444. Both bullets did great, both worked as advertised, but! The lighter bullet did penetrate farther, it had more velocity, but that was impressive, most bullets with less mass doesn’t exhibit that kind of performance over a heavier one!

[@TargetSuite]

Lehigh defense does have the 265 grain wide flat nose solid copper bullet in 44 caliber. That would be a great one for the 444 Marlin.

[@markoharoldoronearmedpoohb7816]

@@TargetSuite I wanted the flutes. The WFN would be a Hammer of Thor!

[@dogbone1358]

@@TargetSuite Cannot imagine what they would do to gel and hogs! Yikes! A project for a later date?

[@dhunterer444]

George did you get a weight and diameter on the XTP's that would be of great interest as I cant get any Sierra 210gr JHC and the Hornady 200 XTP is the closest thing available. Please keep up the great work as I live through your videos and the other KZbinrs mostly airgunning my way through this ammo/component shortage.

[@TargetSuite]

I posted the wait in the video. I think it was 203gr. I didn't measure diameter of it it was around 700 caliber

[@dogbone1358]

Blue goo? Fun video George! Good shooting. Recoil doesn’t look bad at all. Which of the two would you use for deer and hogs?

[@TargetSuite]

I would definitely use the conventional bullet for deer. For big tough Hogs, the Underwood Ammo Xtreme Hunter offers adequate energy transfer and better penetration. I think I would lean towards that one

[@dogbone1358]

@@TargetSuite Amazing difference in expansion between the two boolits. Understand your decision to use the Hornady on deer and Lehigh on hogs. Good luck if and when the time comes. Until next time.

[@larryalexander4833]

Well looking at the comparison looks like they both have weakness and strong points. But for availability and having them both I'll go with xtp or speer or hp cast bullet. I will say in my experience it's hard to beat a hard cast bullet for penetration . And in viewing another channel. If you cast with softer lead and powder coat the bullet you can get good expansion with no leading .

[@TargetSuite]

Thanks Larry. As another commenter said having a good jacketed bullet and a good hard cast bullet just about covers it all.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

A large meplat does the trick for crushing tissue while going deep.

[@outdoorswithroostercurrie6984]

Awesome video. I’d like to see how they work on game.

[@TargetSuite]

Me too I've got them loaded in my Ruger 44 Magnum with a Pulsar night vision scope. When, not if, the pigs come back I hope to ventilate one or two. Thanks for your comment!

[@michaelguerin4618]

I think the flutes slow the bullets down to much For long Range shots, and likewise they do create more damage in the gel than hollowpoints so obviously there is more resistance there in the air and the gel,

[@TargetSuite]

Good point. I think the biggest factor is the weight. For a 45 caliber bullet this is extremely light at only 160 grains. So, low cross-sectional density is going to Rob the most velocity

[@michaelguerin4618]

With ( JHP ) you want you're velocity at impact to be 1,200fps to 1,400fps or it will just pancake and you will only get half the penetration , at close Range you could use 405gr from the 444 marlin to lower the velocity and get even more penetration because of the heavier Hollow point bullets, you want to keep the bullets shaped like a Mushroom, if it pancakes you're velocity is to high, or needs to be used at a longer distance where the velocity is down to 1,200 to 1,400 fps ,IF your going for just a 100yards and you have the power use heavier bullets

[@TargetSuite]

Good thoughts. Of course this 160 grain bullet that I was featuring in this video is solid copper and will not deform at any reasonable velocity.

[@michaelguerin4618]

@TargetSuite it would be interesting to see what a custom made light weight Hard cast Hollow point could do with high velocity ,because the soft stuff is only good for low velocity,

[@michaelguerin4618]

Maybe you could take some JHPs pull them put them in an oven heat them up then quench them but putting them right from the oven to a pale of water, then reload them,

[@ejsocci2630]

I enjoy your videos,thanks

[@life_of_riley88]

There any bass in that pond George?

[@locksbog4270]

Good show!👍😃✌️🇺🇸

[@TargetSuite]

Thanks!

[@DA-pb5yl]

Do you have any experience with bear creek ballistics 44mag 162gr? If not that's an interesting round.

[@TheCharleseye]

I wonder if they tried a Robertson or a Torx head before they loaded up that first Phillips head and sent it down range.

[@RU2AIM]

How about that, Lehigh figured out how to produce reusable bullets! 😉

[@TargetSuite]

😄😄

[@RU2AIM]

@@TargetSuite Go Green, Recycle! 🤣

[@paulstan9828]

That is very cool radar never seen anything like that.

[@TargetSuite]

It really is a nice chronograph. It gives you so much information. If you open up the raw data it's actually recording velocity about every 3 feet along the way. And it gives an indication when the return signal is starting to degrade so that you know when you can no longer trust the velocity readings. Of course all that technology comes at a price.

[@paulstan9828]

@@TargetSuite Really interesting. Amazing how it can pick up on something so small and moving so fast. I think it would be worth the extra cost.

[@bentoncushing8693]

Great show,,,,excellent speaking voice,,,

[@darrenbowers3267]

I would choose Xtp for game and the other for dangerous game. I love xtp for hunting. Darren

[@ccrkicksass00123]

How do you think these would work on black bear?

[@WalterWild2]

How is report and kick compared to 30 wcf

[@nicholasyoung5967]

If you or anyone has any experience, looking for imput on the sights. I have a Henry 3030, my question is do you like that Marble Bullseye sight that sits farther down the barrel (has more range of view) or a Skinner Peep sight that sits up closer to your eye. On top of that, I'm also thinking of getting a KNS Crosshair Front Site to pair with one or the other. Any imput if appreciated thanks!

[@theguyinmaine]

I guess I'm old school. I like that 60/70 caliber mushroom. Was that a buck rub on that cedar?

[@TargetSuite]

Good eyes Mark. You are the first one to comment on that rub. I sure wish I could have seen that Buck because I believe he was a nice one.

[@dlgak1725]

Thanks Tom

[@crafty714]

Hey, Is that the new .429 Magnum caliber? 😂 Lol

[@TargetSuite]

Haha! It sure seemed like it 😉

[@Leverguns50]

If you take a heat gun to your gail blocks you can get those wrinkles out so you can see in it better

[@TargetSuite]

Thanks! I should have done that because that block was really wrinkled.

[@Leverguns50]

@@TargetSuite A lot of times I do it after I shoot it, if I’m going to show a close-up of the Bullet path

[@TARandFEATHERS]

Another great video. Rock On.

[@TargetSuite]

Thanks Rick!

[@owenskene3946]

Would not these bullets be considered full metal jackets and illegal for deer hunting?

[@wilfridBAUCHET]

bonsoir superbe vidéo sur cette munition calibre 44 magnum merci de se partage cordialement

[@TargetSuite]

Thank you for your comment. And thank you for watching!

[@brianguam671]

Why did you say you would have to replace your front sight?

[@PatRMG]

2099 FPS? Zinger!

[@TargetSuite]

Yep. That's scootin'

[@phild9813]

Are those cypress trees? We always had trouble with deer shredding ours

[@TargetSuite]

Yep those are bald cypress trees. And a rather large Buck sure shredded that one

[@InGratitudeIam]

TWO boxes of ammo? Must be nice... 🤣🤣🤣🥳

[@TargetSuite]

Living high off the hog! I'm glad I bought a third box though because I really would like to try one on a full-size Pig one night.

[@Wastelandman7000]

Solid unobtainium is indeed hard to come by LOL

[@fine_artist123]

XTP for the win in my opinion.

[@FrankDAgostino77]

I like the Buffalo Bore 270gr JFN. Downside is that, similar to Underwood, it's prohibitively expensive.

[@TargetSuite]

It is expensive stuff and not what I would call Mainstream. But as I said in another comment if you are hunting large, tough pigs with a pistol caliber carbine, a premium ammo like this from Underwood Ammo is a good choice.

[@adonikam1]

I'll take the XTP ANY DAY!!

[@bullboo1]

Is this 160 gr bullet going to work with 44 Mag Carbine with 1 in 38" twist rifling rate?

[@aaronwilcox6417]

What barrel lengths do you prefer on the pistol cal leveractions 16" or 20"? That Hornady looks like it did an really great job for an more conventional bullet.

[@TargetSuite]

For me, a 20-in barrel just seems right. But my daughter prefers a 16 inch barrel. I think that has to do with the lower Barrel weight.