The Circleville Letters | Full Episode

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@thecutestofborg5604
@thecutestofborg5604 19 күн бұрын
Kinda disappointing how they made it seem like the letters targeted multiple people's secrets and nobody was safe when in fact it was just circling 2 people.
@jr_san
@jr_san 18 күн бұрын
@@thomaslain3845 Red Herring, just to throw off investigators. When really this was just two attention seeking people, bitter about their divorce and acting like lunatics.
@Nihilinstar
@Nihilinstar 18 күн бұрын
No. They targeted many others. This just doesn't cover them.
@saintmte5076
@saintmte5076 18 күн бұрын
@@Nihilinstar Because they were minor secrets that weren't worth covering. E.g., so and so has a crush on the pastor
@Nihilinstar
@Nihilinstar 17 күн бұрын
@@saintmte5076 no. The coroner (medical examiner) was accused of molestation. And later tried and convicted for it. But I do believe any program limited in time has to make editorial choices. But we need to be careful to get the full story before jumping to conclusions based on just one tv show's version of events.
@chrisgullett4332
@chrisgullett4332 17 күн бұрын
No they were sent to several people. No doubt they got the right guy, but he was clearly working with somebody else. Even his own wife thought it was him. Nonetheless, the letters were sent to several people. It got worse after he went to prison, and they were being sent all around Ohio. Clearly an attempt by whoever he was working with to prove he was not the writer. They even sent him letters in prison. So many letters were being sent he actually got put in the hole, and then it stopped. Clearly him and his partner thought sending letters would help him, but all it did was get him put in the hole. The letters sent to him in prison made claims he was set up, and that he was the target all along, which made no sense.
@frankrizzo5129
@frankrizzo5129 19 күн бұрын
Don't threaten a child for an adult's actions. Just evil.
@patricktompkins1103
@patricktompkins1103 18 күн бұрын
Hopefully, most of the time it’s a scare tactic, but I agree with you.
@jemmajemma7130
@jemmajemma7130 19 күн бұрын
Karen Sue was responsible for the trap. She asked her son, boyfriend and brother for help.
@jimwerther
@jimwerther 19 күн бұрын
Fascinating story, poorly reported. Were the busdriver and head whatever actually having an affair? When they say that the two began dating after the busdriver's husband died, what about the other guy's wife? They did say he was married. Anyway, whatever happened to the two of them later? Who else was investigated, and what became of it? And that's just off the top of my head.
@thomaslain3845
@thomaslain3845 19 күн бұрын
Yes, Mary Gillespie and the superintendent were having an affair. It was almost 100% proven considering she started dating him openly in a matter of weeks after her husband passed away
@TieraOwens
@TieraOwens 19 күн бұрын
Too many questions left unanswered. Smh
@XTRABIG
@XTRABIG 18 күн бұрын
right. the production team wasnt thorough
@jimwerther
@jimwerther 18 күн бұрын
@XTRABIG Erin Moriarty does this all the time. Richard Schlesinger was the best at trying to get as many details in as possible. Other hosts, such as Peter Van Sant, are very solid. The worst? Moriarty. Which I don't get at all, because she is the only lawyer among the hosts. Dunno.
@rodglen7071
@rodglen7071 12 күн бұрын
They didn't state whether the letters even stopped after he died. Unless I missed something.
@Iloveallanimals312
@Iloveallanimals312 13 күн бұрын
Finally one I haven't seen!
@Happy-z1d
@Happy-z1d 7 күн бұрын
Same here 😂😂😂 i kept on searching new video but all in marathon which i am done watching.
@jamesl9371
@jamesl9371 18 күн бұрын
Imagine devoting your life to trying to destroy the lives of other people. It’s evil
@TheXmeimei
@TheXmeimei 7 күн бұрын
It’s evil, … and crazy and stupid and, self enslave.
@Simplelivingslowliving
@Simplelivingslowliving 19 күн бұрын
I’m cleaning my apartment as I listen to this . Marry Christmas Eve everyone.
@tatianapanferova
@tatianapanferova 18 күн бұрын
Happy cleaning! Merry Christmas!!
@Megan-1017
@Megan-1017 18 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas!
@Lexislove123
@Lexislove123 18 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas 🎄
@Lashay7
@Lashay7 18 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas!!! To everyone! Jesus loves you! Psalm 147:3
@lareneandpipsqueeksully
@lareneandpipsqueeksully 18 күн бұрын
Merry Cleaning and Happy Christmas 😊😊😊 I always wondered how us kids new how to talk correctly, our Dad and Mom were so funny! Life was/is great with memories ❣️
@dennisniewiadomski3626
@dennisniewiadomski3626 18 күн бұрын
Hello? Did the letters continue after Pauls death? When was the last letter sent? Incomplete investigation!
@gmbO48
@gmbO48 18 күн бұрын
They said in the episode that the letters stopped when Paul was released from prison.
@Boston_Police_isagang
@Boston_Police_isagang 4 күн бұрын
Unsolved mysteries received a letter when they did a piece for their show kzbin.info/www/bejne/bX63m4eLndycndk
@SyracuseIsOranges
@SyracuseIsOranges 18 күн бұрын
Honestly kind of a bad move to go and date the guy you're accused of having an affair with
@fluffyspunsugar
@fluffyspunsugar 17 күн бұрын
Yeah, that stuck out to me, too. Like, if the accusations were unfounded, why, of all people, did she start dating him? In my little town, I highly doubt our school superintendent knows who the bus drivers are.
@MoroMoro1
@MoroMoro1 12 күн бұрын
Exactly, which makes be believe they really were having an affair because it literally makes no sense for them to suddenly start after their lives have been ruined and smeared over it being exposed to the town in the letters
@danielboston8806
@danielboston8806 11 күн бұрын
Because they were having an affair !
@ajk2009
@ajk2009 10 күн бұрын
Ron Gillispie had died ... ( or was murdered ) ... the two could have understandably been drawn together by the ongoing trauma of being harassed by a psychopath ...
@CR-ce5lf
@CR-ce5lf 19 күн бұрын
The letters continued while he was in prison and people still believed he was behind it?!!!!? My gosh!
@TheDriftwoodlover
@TheDriftwoodlover 6 күн бұрын
Some people can’t think.
@lonefighter5222
@lonefighter5222 5 күн бұрын
He wrote tgem before going to prison and his son was mailing them.
@rebeccaramsey1274
@rebeccaramsey1274 19 күн бұрын
This has got to be the laziest investigation I've ever heard. Either that, or 48 hours left out a ton of information.
@Cautionary_Tale_Harris
@Cautionary_Tale_Harris 19 күн бұрын
@@rebeccaramsey1274 Yep. Can you see the comment I left? (It has timestamps)
@jimwerther
@jimwerther 19 күн бұрын
Were the busdriver and head whatever having an affair? When they say that the two began dating after the busdriver's husband died, what about the other guy's wife? They did say he was married. Anyway, whatever happened to the two of them later? Who else was investigated, and what became of it? And that's just off the top of my head.
@TieraOwens
@TieraOwens 19 күн бұрын
Agreed. It was horrible...so much was missing that I want to go look it up myself. 🥴
@jimwerther
@jimwerther 19 күн бұрын
@@TieraOwens I've been doing that on and off the last few hours. They left out 3/4 of the story here. Unreal.
@aldinlee8528
@aldinlee8528 17 күн бұрын
@@jimwerther Okay, now that's the only thing that makes sense to me. lol. 48Hours, like any other series, has to develop episodes. Once they've cherry picked the most intriguing cases, they then have to work harder at making a case more tantalizing than it may, in fact, be. Usually they throw in a lot meaningless stuff, but here they seem to have left out so much stuff.
@JustaPersonTryinToHuman365
@JustaPersonTryinToHuman365 19 күн бұрын
RIP to those who were lost, healing for those left behind. For the Algorithm. Thanks for the content.
@SpontaneouslyDeliberate
@SpontaneouslyDeliberate 19 күн бұрын
They kinda glossed over Karen's paranoia surrounding the Unsolved Mysteries interviews. I find that highly suspicious.
@ajk2009
@ajk2009 9 күн бұрын
💯 this 48 Hours episode aired in 2021 and Karen Sue Gillispie passed in May 2024. It seems like the 48 Hours producers are careful not to cross the line between speculation and defamation.
@sigma_curry
@sigma_curry 18 күн бұрын
Wtf she was accused of having an affair w someone and somebody died bc of it. And then she dated that exact guy???
@jessicamorales2555
@jessicamorales2555 18 күн бұрын
Yep!
@Bongwater33
@Bongwater33 18 күн бұрын
too big a coincidence- she must have really been seeing him all along.
@MaryLee-cw4mw
@MaryLee-cw4mw 19 күн бұрын
Good thing it was before social media! Imagine what kind of a mess that would've been.😮
@48hours
@48hours 17 күн бұрын
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@ljgriffith2065
@ljgriffith2065 14 күн бұрын
The son who committed suicide knew something, and it was such a burden he couldn't take it anymore
@chipdiamond5104
@chipdiamond5104 17 күн бұрын
I'll never understand how people could ever use and manipulate their children through a divorce. That evil...
@LexyTheEbikeQueen
@LexyTheEbikeQueen 19 күн бұрын
I bet it was his wife
@CR-ce5lf
@CR-ce5lf 19 күн бұрын
YES! It’s insane how nobody investigated her! It was she and her son.
@saintmte5076
@saintmte5076 18 күн бұрын
@@CR-ce5lf BINGO!
@kimmyfreak200
@kimmyfreak200 10 күн бұрын
it did reek of a jealous wife
@ajk2009
@ajk2009 9 күн бұрын
ex-wife of Paul Freshour, Karen Sue Gillispie ?
@Authoratah
@Authoratah 19 күн бұрын
Why don't they do DNA testing on the stamps glue?.. the sender probably licked them
@markbaz
@markbaz 19 күн бұрын
They said they found Paul’s fingerprints on some of the letters mailed while he was incarcerated. Obviously he could have handled “blank” papers before anything was written on them.
@Bowdy_Up
@Bowdy_Up 19 күн бұрын
@@markbaz 🙄 🤦🏻‍♂️ no, he just had either a guard or another inmate mail them out.
@ad6723
@ad6723 19 күн бұрын
It was too early for good DNA analysis. That developed in later years.
@Authoratah
@Authoratah 19 күн бұрын
@@ad6723 they can do it now
@elizabethr4107
@elizabethr4107 19 күн бұрын
Bc the investigation is closed. They think they got their suspect
@nonjabulomakhathini6795
@nonjabulomakhathini6795 19 күн бұрын
Another episode 🎉❤. Thank You 48hrs. Watching from South Africa 🇿🇦
@meerkatreserve7543
@meerkatreserve7543 18 күн бұрын
Are you kidding me?? This is a woman’s MO!!!
@rottweilerfun9520
@rottweilerfun9520 16 күн бұрын
I haven't seen it yet but I would guess that it was the Superintendents wife.
@CorreneTucciarone
@CorreneTucciarone 18 күн бұрын
Another thing, if Paul wrote the letters from jail, then his fingerprints would have been on all of them. It's more likely that the papers came from the home that he used to share with someone and his prints only ended up sporadically on some.
@pattip1580
@pattip1580 9 күн бұрын
I think Paul's wife did it. And her accomplices were mary and her son. Wonder how she felt when her son killed herself because of her
@TheDriftwoodlover
@TheDriftwoodlover 6 күн бұрын
I don’t think Mary participated but agree with you otherwise
@gloriaorth4628
@gloriaorth4628 19 күн бұрын
This was one of my favorite stories profiled on Unsolved Mysteries when I was a child. I always wondered who the writer really was. 🧐
@RWRogers
@RWRogers 19 күн бұрын
OMG yes!! They did cover this story on that show. Forgot about that.
@gloriaorth4628
@gloriaorth4628 19 күн бұрын
The writer even wrote to Unsolved Mysteries!
@Tero92
@Tero92 19 күн бұрын
Karen. Clearly.
@jimwerther
@jimwerther 19 күн бұрын
They mentioned all that in this 48 Hours
@matchhunter7012
@matchhunter7012 19 күн бұрын
Was me and I got away with it !!
@CorreneTucciarone
@CorreneTucciarone 19 күн бұрын
The handwriting expert was completely unprofessional. You can never state something as fact when it's your interpretation of the evidence therefore your opinion. The number 3 thing bugs me too! On an unrelated and known sample of Paul's writing, he adds a decretive loop and swirl. Then on one of the mystery letters, the number 3 looks like someone was trying to copy it. I don't agree that it looks like he's not sure if wants to write a number 2 or a 3. And the uppercase G. I know many people who write it to look like that. I don't agree that it's 'very unusual ', I don't think Erin believed it either.
@tymom9313
@tymom9313 18 күн бұрын
I agree! Very arrogant and unprofessional to say 100% guarantee 💯
@saintmte5076
@saintmte5076 18 күн бұрын
She didn't state it as 'fact'. She said in her own opinion she was 100% certain it was Paul. Watch it again.
@sbosonicx
@sbosonicx 10 күн бұрын
Did the former FBI profiler add any value here? Her assumptions seemed generic and unconclusive to me.
@dimakatsokhathatso3
@dimakatsokhathatso3 19 күн бұрын
Can't wait to see this tonight.I am saving it.❤ I love 48 hrs🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
@OfficialBougieB
@OfficialBougieB 19 күн бұрын
Why are we all up at 7am watching this 😅🤣
@mrsapplez2007
@mrsapplez2007 19 күн бұрын
Haha, because it 1pm uk time 😅😊
@laurieemerson8159
@laurieemerson8159 19 күн бұрын
We all have good taste!
@sfm18
@sfm18 19 күн бұрын
Well my body is used to being up for work.... This is waaaaaay better tho! Merry Christmas everyone!
@OfficialBougieB
@OfficialBougieB 19 күн бұрын
@@sfm18 Merry Christmas ☺️
@OfficialBougieB
@OfficialBougieB 19 күн бұрын
@@laurieemerson8159 You may be very accurate 😂
@johnsonjohnson4725
@johnsonjohnson4725 19 күн бұрын
That was incredibly time-consuming - especially printing each of them. The writer must’ve lived alone or had LOTS of time alone to write them all, mail or post them, without drawing attention.
@ajk2009
@ajk2009 9 күн бұрын
💯 right ?! ... indefatigable psychopath
@ginaperez8139
@ginaperez8139 19 күн бұрын
Wow this is intriguing. Let me dive in thanks for another upload, Love you guys!❤
@barb-jm7990
@barb-jm7990 18 күн бұрын
I think it was the ex-wife who wrote the letters. She would have had access to all of the things used in the attempted bombing and to even the paper that Paul might have touched before prison. I think the obsession with other people's lives and all of the details that the writer had were from a female. I worked with someone like that (not in Ohio.) She was a teacher who was overly religious and thought that she needed to interfere with the lives of everyone else. She would leave letters in the mailboxes of other teachers criticizing things they were doing that she thought were wrong. Men, generally, could not care less what others were doing.
@mamamia8284
@mamamia8284 18 күн бұрын
Agreed, I think it’s highly likely it’s the Karen Sue lady.
@ajk2009
@ajk2009 9 күн бұрын
a lot of the facts on the many sites devoted to the unsolved Circleville Writer definitely lead to Karen Sue Gillispie ... ( sister of Ron Gillispie, ex-wife of Paul Freshour ) ... interestingly, Karen Sue apparently passed in May 2024.
@legitbeans9078
@legitbeans9078 19 күн бұрын
That linguistic analyst at the end was so full of herself... "im not wrong" ya sure about that? 🙄
@mini_skinny0296
@mini_skinny0296 18 күн бұрын
You can stop the video and look at the words, how are they written, and see if she is right or wrong in her assumptions.
@legitbeans9078
@legitbeans9078 17 күн бұрын
@@mini_skinny0296 lol
@patriciamoffat1542
@patriciamoffat1542 17 күн бұрын
I was convinced from the beginning that a woman was writing the letters. To me, it seems strange a man would do this. So I'm still not convinced it was Paul and I'm sure it was a woman.
@nanzyz
@nanzyz 19 күн бұрын
What a horrible bunch of people.
@ajk2009
@ajk2009 9 күн бұрын
who ?
@wa2k99
@wa2k99 9 күн бұрын
Explain...
@positively_broad_st3780
@positively_broad_st3780 9 күн бұрын
The letter-sending campaign sounds like something my mother would do. Some people make the time to be unhinged...
@darkviolet69
@darkviolet69 19 күн бұрын
these small-town people need to get a life then no one would care who was having an affair and there wouldn't be any letters
@dcarts5616
@dcarts5616 18 күн бұрын
All adulterous affairs should be shamed. The problem I see is knowing if there actually was an affair going on. Bearing false witness and gossiping is the only thing I see wrong with what that small town was possibly doing.
@sunshine3914
@sunshine3914 18 күн бұрын
IKR? I don’t believe for one second that any man is this dedicated. I grew up in a small town & the bus drivers were all up in everybody’s business, & as the town grew, so did the lovers’ triangles & rumors.
@Teolulz
@Teolulz 17 күн бұрын
small town and they had a lot of free time
@ajk2009
@ajk2009 9 күн бұрын
48 Hours is a crime show ... the Circleville Writer remains an unsolved mystery ...
@RWRogers
@RWRogers 19 күн бұрын
Oh, yes. I’ve seen this one a few times. I’ve never forgotten it because it’s a small town just 20 min from me. Plus it’s one of those more memorable stories that’s evolved over the years since. A true mystery, especially earlier on. But it’ll likely forever remain one. Maybe that’s why it’s more memorable and special. Those who haven’t yet seen it will find it compelling. It’s different from the usual.
@Youcef8830
@Youcef8830 Күн бұрын
i love the "I'm not wrong" from the hand writing expert.
@hpNerd0003
@hpNerd0003 18 күн бұрын
The letters scream as if they were written by a jealous woman
@TheXmeimei
@TheXmeimei 7 күн бұрын
One thing is sure, 48 Hours don’t bother to do their homework. They just rely on the “experts”, whom we all know that they don’t even agree with one another! Did it occur to 48 Hours to do a little research to find out where those letters went sent from? Was it all sent from one particular post office, or sent from different post offices?
@davidc3839
@davidc3839 15 күн бұрын
Who gains from the crime? The wife, and yet they prosecute the husband and then try to justify that letters are still coming out of prison. The so called expert on writing style is full of BS.
@chrislastname1994
@chrislastname1994 13 күн бұрын
Wait she just happens to start seeing the guy she was accused of having an affair with, after her husband dies? Nah bro she was absolutely having an affair.
@Therezumee92
@Therezumee92 12 күн бұрын
Guy was convicted based on what? His gun being there proves nothing. That was a set up, no way he did that one. He also was in prison, how would he get letters out? Ok, guards can be bought, but doubt it would succeed to be undetected for so many years. Also he couldn't set it up on the outside unless someone else is involved. And that someone died when the letters stopped. The woman simping for Paul's wife rubs me the wrong way. Lady, you should look up what objective opinion is.
@Kimberly-c8r
@Kimberly-c8r 18 күн бұрын
If he was the letter writer, how did he send them while he was in prison?? Makes no sense!!
@maisydaisy9216
@maisydaisy9216 18 күн бұрын
His son
@iamsharon1981
@iamsharon1981 17 күн бұрын
his son stopped talking to his dad coz he took mom’s side in the divorce remember?
@1978JonBullock
@1978JonBullock 19 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas everyone.
@John-e8q4o
@John-e8q4o 19 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas from Ireland 🎁🎄🎅
@LweissTTU
@LweissTTU 19 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas from West Texas
@lisahelton3297
@lisahelton3297 19 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas from South Alabama USA 🎄
@bjbrown
@bjbrown 19 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas from Florida!
@jgiza8888
@jgiza8888 19 күн бұрын
Great episode! Merry Christmas from South Dakota!🎄😎
@krissykriss328
@krissykriss328 19 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas from beautiful Arizona 🌵🎅❤
@nnt.473
@nnt.473 18 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas from Washington DC! 🎄🤗
@elizabethgrays7546
@elizabethgrays7546 18 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas from Minnesota!
@krististevens54322
@krististevens54322 16 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas from NE Ohio! ❤
@angieburnett4341
@angieburnett4341 17 күн бұрын
I would really like to hear more about what friends/family--including Paul's family has to say about Karen Sue. It appears she just passed away this year, Karen Sue (Gillespie) Sorrick. It appears this is one of those that we may never know, even though we all want to so very badly!! I truly don't believe Paul was the writer.
@MyTube4Utoo
@MyTube4Utoo 19 күн бұрын
The letter writer wasn't a "highly educated person?" _She_ was/is an idiot! 😆 Also, that "document examiner," I believe, wasn't worth listening to. To say that she was "100% sure" of who the letter writer was, showed her ignorance, and arrogance. Handwriting analysis isn't an "exact science." Any more than "Criminal Profiling" is an exact science. Personally, from just what was presented here, I'd say it was the ex-wife. She "supposedly" saw, and had in her custody, some of the letters, but she didn't save them to show the police? She hated Paul enough to turn his own children against him. She had access to the gun and would have definitely known of any 'quirks' in Paul's handwriting in order to help in setting him up. Also, as the FBI Profiler mentioned, it was very telling that the writer made it a point, numerous times, to point out that she/he was (supposedly) male. When trying to remain anonymous, your biological sex is something that you wouldn't disclose. What should have been done is, set Karen Sue down and have her write a letter. Dictate it so it contained many (or all) of the words that were misspelled in the hundreds of letters. Words like "elemination, bullit, lonily," for example. Now, having said all that, wouldn't it be cool if the letter writer was Erin Moriarty? 😆 The letters were postmarked in Columbus, Ohio, where Erin grew up and was living when the letter writing began. Erin, we're going to need a handwriting sample. 😆
@eraldadevole
@eraldadevole 19 күн бұрын
I have only one question about it(Erin aside) If it was the ex wife, why continue send letters after he went in prison and she got what she wanted? It could have been a big mistake risking to overturn his sentence and keep the investigation going…
@avelakhoza6140
@avelakhoza6140 19 күн бұрын
​@@eraldadevole Because she wasn't a "clever" person. This whole story is confusing, how could an isolated person be able to send letters? You can't just make a friend guard that will dance to your sick tune all the time, this case is hella confusing
@krissykriss328
@krissykriss328 19 күн бұрын
I believe her, and his dang FINGERPRINTS were on the letters! He may have been isolated but he found someone to mail the letters for him. Maybe another inmate ( criminal ) is not too far fetched of a theory. I think some people are overthinking the whole thing when the evidence is right there in front of us. Handwriting characteristics and fingerprints don't lie just like dna doesn't lie!
@RandomChristianMusings
@RandomChristianMusings 19 күн бұрын
Makes me wonder why the letters weren't subjected to statement analysis. Many people believe statement analysis is of more value than body language. It's pretty darn reliable.
@justnoted2995
@justnoted2995 19 күн бұрын
... and you are dead wrong about this
@tammywaters605
@tammywaters605 18 күн бұрын
Absolutely Karen Sue did it
@user-kp9zu3bd4r
@user-kp9zu3bd4r 12 күн бұрын
ex wife did this for sure absolutely
@ginaperez8139
@ginaperez8139 19 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas 🎄🎁 Everyone! Hope for Peace🕊️ Love 💟 and faith ❤
@krissykriss328
@krissykriss328 19 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas to you as well! ❤🎅
@roserocks1979
@roserocks1979 19 күн бұрын
The wife would've known how his writing looked, and copied it. Or the son. They could've used paper he had touched.
@Gloomcookie96
@Gloomcookie96 19 күн бұрын
I feel like a lot was not covered that should have been in this episode. There were a lot of holes in the story where this was barely comprehensible. Just from looking at the various letters, though I'm no trained expert, it seems like the letters were written by more than one person and they were taking great lengths to disguise their writing by using the block letter style. Either they were not very educated or that was another misdirect like mentioning they had a girlfriend could have been. Words were misspelled, punctuation omitted. I think the son definitely had some part in it though I can't say how. The writing didn't appear consistent throughout the letters but instead had two or three styles of writing. The letters were also varied by being written on plain paper or lined paper at times. Paul's fingerprints being on the paper could have been as simple as him replacing printer paper and that paper being used by a coworker to write one of the letters. I also don't buy that he could have sent these from jail. Everything is monitored especially phone calls and mail, both incoming and outgoing. They would have been able to intercept the letters before they were actually sent out.
@سارهاحمد-ت2ش
@سارهاحمد-ت2ش 19 күн бұрын
The toxic writer waged war on peaceful Circleville town.
@velocitygirl8551
@velocitygirl8551 19 күн бұрын
Why would u take that box home and try to open it!!??
@Rgrn-e7z
@Rgrn-e7z 19 күн бұрын
They didn't have cell phones back then , so she wasn't able to call 911 where she was at .
@TieraOwens
@TieraOwens 19 күн бұрын
I was wondering that too because I thought it was a bomb. 😂
@lindasyarnbarn5176
@lindasyarnbarn5176 18 күн бұрын
Exactly!! She was driving her school bus on the way to pick up kids, saw the box and took it home to examine. Does that mean that she put her students lives in danger and drove her bus route with it on the bus or, did she forget the kids and drive home? There’s some stupid going on there.
@Rgrn-e7z
@Rgrn-e7z 18 күн бұрын
@@TieraOwens , stupid is as stupid does , if it was me and I seen it, I would leave where it was at and go find a place with the nearest phone . Not pick up a box that looks suspicious and take it with me , imagine if it went off ... OMG
@Rgrn-e7z
@Rgrn-e7z 18 күн бұрын
@lindasyarnbarn5176 , you can't accuse everyone of being bright , some people are about as sharp as the white paint on the wall
@sunflowerz54
@sunflowerz54 17 күн бұрын
After the husbands death she starts seeing this man. How criminal is that
@maritzasaivay306
@maritzasaivay306 18 күн бұрын
I think it was the ex-wife. Women think in a different way; she tried to look uneducated on purpose; the suspect sounds like an emotional unestable and controlling person, I think the state of mind of the ex at that time, especially after everything she lost. She may have also manipulated the son to help her with her plan. Guilt is what made the son avoid seing his father face to face and ultimately end his life.
@jamesl9371
@jamesl9371 18 күн бұрын
The Karen Sue lady seems evil
@sherryluvsmermaids5503
@sherryluvsmermaids5503 18 күн бұрын
Karen Sue was the letter writer. She had jealousy and motive.
@vickdevito2
@vickdevito2 14 күн бұрын
But there is zero proof of that. The writing matches husband's writing patterns. It's the husband's gun. He had a motive - horrible divorce.
@asher2648
@asher2648 19 күн бұрын
Very creepy story.Watching from Croatia😮😮
@Aspectus
@Aspectus 19 күн бұрын
Some of my family lives in Croatia. Greetings!
19 күн бұрын
Watching from Slovenia 😎 Cao!
@Rgrn-e7z
@Rgrn-e7z 19 күн бұрын
My Grandma was from Croatia but she came to the USA on a ship with her family in the early 1900s
@marijaurisevic3254
@marijaurisevic3254 18 күн бұрын
Hello from Croatia. Gdje živiš? 😃
@100porsiyentopinoy
@100porsiyentopinoy 19 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas everyone🌲🎅 watching from Hong Kong.
@rachellewachuka1121
@rachellewachuka1121 19 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas ⛄ too. Watching from Kenya.
@bjbrown
@bjbrown 19 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas from Florida USA 🎄
@krissykriss328
@krissykriss328 19 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas from Arizona ❤🌵🎅
@heatherbeach4696
@heatherbeach4696 18 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas, From California, USA
@lornae8683
@lornae8683 19 күн бұрын
I think Karen did it!!!
@jameslomenzo1139
@jameslomenzo1139 19 күн бұрын
I had an El Camino just like that one, same wheels, 350 cubic engine, 4 barrel Quadrajet. They were very popular back then. Paul shouldn't have been in prison.
@Ilyevey
@Ilyevey 13 күн бұрын
It was definitely Karen and the bus lady knew because they were good friends. Also her ex husband was consumed with rage because he knew about the affair. Karen was jealous and miserable I bet she had a painful death
@roselove2196
@roselove2196 8 күн бұрын
Карен жива )
@lfloats
@lfloats 11 күн бұрын
I love how she says.... I KNOW for a fact because of the writing. If you didn't SEE him write them, then you don't know.
@l-b284
@l-b284 17 күн бұрын
What struck me as interesting is how some of the letters were slightly italic, some were tall and thin, and others were perfectly square block letters. Looking at this from 30,000 feet, it appears that multiple people were involved. Maybe having taught the other how to print/write, or who grew up learning this style from the same adult...teacher, grandparent, neighbor, etc., or copycats capitalizing on the opportunity to out people, is why certain numbers/letters were similar. But this does not look like one person's effort.
@mtaylor7307
@mtaylor7307 13 күн бұрын
I also questioned when they said his DNA was found on the letters even after he was in prison because cross contamination (according to all these crime shows anyway) happens easily. And I can't dismiss the eyewitness testimony of the man and el camino style vehicle apparently planting the bomb. The son getting caught in the middle of a difficult divorce and perhaps stealing the gun for the purposes of his mother and her new male friend? The rest of the evidence doesn't seem as cut and dry as handwriting experts say. Forgery is an art some make millions with...maybe the revengeful wife got what she wanted?
@eddiehoppe
@eddiehoppe 19 күн бұрын
Got cheating wife, Mary who could possibly want her husband out of the way , and an ex-wife, Karen sue who could possibly want her husband out of the way, maybe the two could be framing Paul ? the two women are friends i would focus on Mary and Karen Sue, then what do i know.
@ES-qu1jd
@ES-qu1jd 16 күн бұрын
I was wondering that too.
@toddrichardson8595
@toddrichardson8595 18 күн бұрын
The letter writer was Ronald McDonald...
@maritzasaivay306
@maritzasaivay306 18 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jolo3118
@jolo3118 19 күн бұрын
4 am here in Beaverton Oregon. Woke up to bring our new pup outside and go back to bed. Puppy (Harley) has other ideas 😂. In other words, perfect timing for a 48 Hours upload! Coffee time I guess! ☕🐕🥰
@lilcuet33
@lilcuet33 19 күн бұрын
Ha! Im in Portland, OR, can't sleep...4:23 am...funny. Happy holidays from the PNW
@mrsapplez2007
@mrsapplez2007 19 күн бұрын
East Midlands uk. 🇬🇧 Sat down after adulting with a cuppa just in time for an episode I've never seen yippee
@SC.......
@SC....... 19 күн бұрын
Harley is such a cute name. Merry Christmas from Iowa. ❤ Enjoy your day, your coffee and your new pup.
@krissykriss328
@krissykriss328 19 күн бұрын
​@@mrsapplez2007 After adulting... 😂 You made me smile this morning,,,Merry Christmas from Arizona! 🎅❤🌵
@fionagregory9147
@fionagregory9147 19 күн бұрын
Or tea 🍵
@michaelvitiello9960
@michaelvitiello9960 17 күн бұрын
How were they able to arrest him on the polygraph results?? I thought polygraph was not admissable in court
@rottweilerfun9520
@rottweilerfun9520 16 күн бұрын
It might have been back then.
@whiskeytangofoxtrot1986
@whiskeytangofoxtrot1986 19 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas
@John-e8q4o
@John-e8q4o 19 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas 🎁🎄🎅
@lisahelton3297
@lisahelton3297 19 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas 🎄
@PaulaakaPaben
@PaulaakaPaben 18 күн бұрын
Did The superintendent have A Wife when this Happened? Why was he nor His son targeted? Sounds More Like Karen, Then Paul, Ron was her Brother!
@gcrichman53
@gcrichman53 17 күн бұрын
It's about time you featured a really old case again.
@Dogsrule777
@Dogsrule777 19 күн бұрын
Am I just now figuring out that all these episodes are just put out in a rotating loop? I feel like I just saw this a year ago on my couch.😂
@pattip1580
@pattip1580 9 күн бұрын
Im embarrassed for the last expert. She is so arrogant and full of it. Expert give opinion not facts. Deluded much 🙄
@spikenomoon
@spikenomoon 19 күн бұрын
Dudes innocent. If not there I only evidence for his innocence. Who verified the box was actually where she said it was. Any of the kids questioned asking if she found a box.
@Cautionary_Tale_Harris
@Cautionary_Tale_Harris 19 күн бұрын
Said the bus was empty.
@spikenomoon
@spikenomoon 19 күн бұрын
@ thanks. I don’t understand why her word is just accepted. Very scary
@ajk2009
@ajk2009 9 күн бұрын
... are you thinking that Mary Gillispie was in cahoots with Paul Freshour's ex-wife Karen Sue Gillispie, sister of Mary's (deceased) husband Ron Gillispie ?
@PittsburghSportsFan43
@PittsburghSportsFan43 19 күн бұрын
If Preshaur didn't have any pens or paper in prison, how did he have outgoing mail? And it's completely possible that Preshaur wrote these in prison, mailed them to someone else who then mailed them to other people so it didn't show them coming from the prison.
@CR-ce5lf
@CR-ce5lf 19 күн бұрын
Because they check your letters! And if they thought he was the sender you better believe they would’ve read everything he had outgoing.
@ajk2009
@ajk2009 9 күн бұрын
Paul Freshour
@moniqueloomis9772
@moniqueloomis9772 18 күн бұрын
I've solved the case. It was something about Mary all along. 🔎
@Trending_News_Kenya
@Trending_News_Kenya 19 күн бұрын
I really waited for this new episode. for the first time ever, i am the first person to comment.
@CrimePuzzleTV
@CrimePuzzleTV 19 күн бұрын
Hope this Christmas bring joy and blessings to everyone and their families, and may our channel continue to grow with the support of amazing viewers in the year ahead. ☺
@concettaworkman5895
@concettaworkman5895 15 күн бұрын
He either wrote them, or someone studied his handwriting for hours, and practiced until they perfected the handwriting. Handwriting proves nothing, but, the fingerprints on the letters is the smoking gun. As I said, guards can be bribed to do anything. I don't believe anything I see or hear, so it's all up in the air. Intriguing, it matters not now. Forget about it, no one will ever be cleared. Why doesn't someone pay to do DNA on the letters? How about you, 48 hours. What the hell? You have the money. Put the matter to rest if you care so much. Old story, stupid. Do better. There is not as much crime as you think, to rehash these old, tired stories. How about some black on White crime. We'd love to hear it.
@codyactually2557
@codyactually2557 18 күн бұрын
The writing analyst being so sure makes me not believe her tbh… if she woulda said “evidence in the writing is overwhelming but I can’t confirm with certainty that it’s him” I think I’d think it was him. But being willing to bet your life on something that you can’t prove makes me think you’re either a little off or just over confident in your ability … but I hate do I know
@davidroe64
@davidroe64 3 күн бұрын
OK, YOU GOT ME...I ADMIT IT...I WROTE THE LETTERS.
@SC.......
@SC....... 19 күн бұрын
Watching from small town Iowa. Oof this one is creepy. Merry Christmas everyone. 🎄❤️🤗
@krissykriss328
@krissykriss328 19 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas from Arizona!❤🌵🎅
@adrianimee8665
@adrianimee8665 19 күн бұрын
Merry Xmas from❤Illinois!
@user-meandme
@user-meandme 19 күн бұрын
Uncle Paul had the worst attorney.
@ajk2009
@ajk2009 9 күн бұрын
for the divorce, or criminal case ?
@victorialsaint9046
@victorialsaint9046 14 күн бұрын
I think the ex wife who did it
@UnderTheMysticMoon
@UnderTheMysticMoon 19 күн бұрын
I heard about this a little over a month ago, for the first time from Agatha Maye Detective agency channel shared the story. If you haven’t checked out her channel, you should do so she’s great.
@Cautionary_Tale_Harris
@Cautionary_Tale_Harris 19 күн бұрын
This episode leaves a ton of loose ends or points that are kind of explained only weakly. 7:42 So Ron Gillespie was the brother-in-law to Paul Freshour. How? Was Karen Sue (Paul's wife) Mary's sister? At 27:32 we learn Karen Sue was living in a trailer on Mary's property. 9:09 "Mary had always denied having an affair with Massie, but after Ron's death, she says they began seeing each other..." 😂 Sure, ok. 14:22 Handwriting sample lol yeah it was Paul.
@j.scottcaudill7543
@j.scottcaudill7543 19 күн бұрын
Karen Sue was Ron Gillespie's Sister. That was stated in this video. You must've just missed it
@Cautionary_Tale_Harris
@Cautionary_Tale_Harris 19 күн бұрын
@j.scottcaudill7543 Where was it in the video? I went back and skipped around some but didn't find it.
@rebeccaramsey1274
@rebeccaramsey1274 18 күн бұрын
@@Cautionary_Tale_Harris I could have missed something but the letters continued a long time? Who died or became incapacitated around the time they stopped? Who had access to paper that dude would've touched? What was done to investigate where the letters were mailed from? Dropped in a box? Surveillance? There's got to be a better show done by someone about this case. Seems like just a lot of shrugging and "oh well, we have no idea what's going on!" Surely it's not as lazy and sloppy as it seems.
@selinakwamini825
@selinakwamini825 5 күн бұрын
This would make a dope mini series...I am seeing Reese Witherspoon like she did in little fires
@dianecripps204
@dianecripps204 19 күн бұрын
I don't see how a forensic document examiner aka handwriting analyst in this case can be 100 % sure. Though I give the analysis some weight. Also, a really twisted person can sometimes make others think he's a great guy. I can't judge who wrote those letters, so I appreciate the ideas in the comments.
@ajk2009
@ajk2009 9 күн бұрын
well said ... excellent comment ... looking at the wikipedia page for Beverley East, she is a leader in the field of handwriting analysis and is a court-qualified forensic document examiner ...
@ajk2009
@ajk2009 9 күн бұрын
... but retired FBI profiler Mary Ellen O’Toole, Ph.D is also a seasoned professional ... O'Toole's conclusion is less definitive, but seems to point towards Karen Sue Gillispie ... ex-wife of Paul Freshour.
@jessicamorales2555
@jessicamorales2555 18 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas dear world
@rraefyn
@rraefyn Күн бұрын
That spiral necklace disturbs me.
@lyzziez
@lyzziez 19 күн бұрын
I used to live in Ashville (the next town over, closer than Columbus). Love this story about Circleville.
@greggfoy894
@greggfoy894 2 күн бұрын
I stopped paying attention for a few minutes. Now my head is spinning.
@mandypandee1220
@mandypandee1220 19 күн бұрын
Who else was up at 4am for work when this uploaded, and was pleasantly surprised?😄
@lisahelton3297
@lisahelton3297 19 күн бұрын
I worked midnights. This was perfect to end my shift! Merry Christmas 🎄
@mandypandee1220
@mandypandee1220 19 күн бұрын
​@@lisahelton3297perfect way to start my morning! Happy holidays!🎁✨️❄️
@mariesimpson7613
@mariesimpson7613 19 күн бұрын
Why didn’t they use DNA testing on the letters?
@ton8098
@ton8098 19 күн бұрын
I live in Chillicothe and this really creeps me out
@brielliott04
@brielliott04 19 күн бұрын
Listening as I finish wrapping gifts and making the last of our Christmas cookies, thanks 48 hours!
@concettaworkman5895
@concettaworkman5895 15 күн бұрын
He bribed a guard, they get low pay. The son was caught in the middle. It was either the mother or father, for sure.
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