The Most Miserable Offense in NFL History

[@KTOfootball]

Fun fact: I chose to cover the worst modern offense ever (SB era), but the 1942 Detroit Lions actually had a worse offense. QB ratio of 1 TD to 33 INT’s. 3.5 points per game. Their top 2 quarterbacks actually had negative yards per pass attempt due to throwing almost as many INT’s (23) as completions (33). In a 42-0 loss, the Lions committed 12 turnovers on 50 offensive plays.

[@trethetree]

Ouch

[@jacobwatson1406]

Yeah well in 1942 you would expect someone to play like that lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mike_7696]

Petermeme couldn't even dream of throwing that many picks

[@LessGo7921]

Who else but the Lions 💀

[@KawikaChing]

I would expect nothing more from the Detroit lions🤣🤣

[@bigbearkat2010]

Personally my favorite John McKay story is he was once asked his opinion of the Bucs execution and he said he was in favor of it.

[@hiimemily]

@Jared Powell He kinda botched it though.

[@pittland44]

My favorite story of John McKay was when he was talking to reporters about a loss: Well, we didn't block, but we made up for it by not tackling.

[@brendenoleary1453]

Kelly did botch it, but people on Twitter lost their god damn mind over it. Hilarious

[@anthonyray5713]

That quote is right up there with “Playoffs” and “the Bears are who we thought they were”! 🤣🤣

[@pittland44]

@@anthonyray5713 You're talking about playoffs?

[@soylentteal]

The bright spot was McKay’s sense of humor: “We weren’t blocking. But we made up for it by not tackling.”

[@TOCC50]

I’m older than the entire team

[@grapes6336]

@@TOCC50ok

[@WillMuny]

Maybe not his best but this is his most prophetic. "We will be back. Maybe not this century, but we will be back and we will be a better football team.”

[@thetexanshurtme]

You can't fool me KTO. I watched the entirety of the Texans' 2013 season.

[@hunterhamby764]

😂😂😂

[@Snavea311]

Bro I’m a Texans fan 🥲

[@isaaclikesturtles]

You clearly never saw jamarcus play

[@DevinPosey20]

I watch the Browns go 1-31 in two seasons that was fun

[@sportsnerd321]

Hey 2-0 and then shit got hilarious quickly after that

[@stephens6912]

"Can you imagine watching your team only score an offensive touchdown once every 3 games?" Yes I can. Go Giants

[@c.l.freeman7654]

Was going to say, sounds like the Shitcago Bears. 🐻 ⬇️🧻🚽

[@christian-lf2oc]

Go giants on our way to a four game win season again 😭

[@SMEARGLEX75]

Me with Washington.

[@beanboiz3381]

@@christian-lf2oc 3-1 boys. You should be proud:)

[@darkishzapo1155]

posts that aged poorly

[@therocknrollmillennial535]

Bucs History 1976, expansion: 0-14 1977: 2-12 1978: 5-11 1979: 10-6, 1st in the division, lost in the NFC Championship 9-0 to the Rams, in which the only points scored were 3 FG's (out of 4) made by a kicker whose average that season was 52%. 1980: 5-10-1 Cumulative Total for the half-decade: 22-53-1 (.296) I'm not sure there's ever been a team with a winning percentage under 30% in a 5 year span to have a playoff win in that span. This is why we love sports. Sometimes, they make no sense.

[@fonnyjootball512]

thats fuckin wild

[@DrShwazz]

Also the Bucs have the worst winning percentage of any team all time in the NFL but they have 2 SuperBowl wins lol

[@abolishcirno7585]

In 5 year developments, the Browns recently had a very similar progression 2016: 1-15 [The only win of the season was a literal Christmas miracle. The Chargers kicking unit was especially cursed around these years. A blocked field goal and miss set back the firing of Hue Jackson by 1.5 years.] 2017: 0-16 [The Factory of Sadness lives up to it's name. It ends up having the worst year in its miserable existence.] 2018: 7-8-1 [You know what's the most Browns way to end your losing streak? WITH A FUCKING TIE. Cleveland finally remembers what winning feels like after almost 2 years.] 2019: 6-10 [After bringing back sparks of hope while almost ending past the .500 line for the first time since 2007, the Browns regress back to normalcy with a very disappointing season, not being able to meet expectations.] 2020: 11-5 [The SECOND iteration of the Browns have finally won a playoff game. The last time the "Browns" won a playoff game was with the 1994 team, who would relocate and rebrand themselves as the Baltimore Ravens.] Record of this 5 year window: 25-54-1 (0.319) The Browns' winning percentage of this period is ONLY >2% higher than the Bucs in their first half decade of existence, barely being above the .300 line with a playoff win. HOWEVER, when you look through a 6 year lens, the Bucs actually won more games, having a record of 31-60-1 (0.342), having added the 1981 season, the sixth year of their existence. Meanwhile, the Browns had a record of 28-67-1 (0.297) within the 6 year window, adding the 2015 season that directly precedes the 5 years listed above. Both teams still maintain the 1 playoff win condition here. No doubt, these two teams hold the honour of having the worst time periods to have produced a playoff win. These stories should be an important life lesson for people to learn: no matter how miserable life can be, there is no guarantee that a positive experience is unattainable, it is always within reach with the right mindset and support.

[@MrDanger88]

Bucs also have 2 SB titles despite having the worst win% in NFL history. They are a curious franchise. Think of this, think of how good the Packers consistently are. The Bucs have more SB wins in the last 23 years than them

[@vimic9507]

@@MrDanger88 As one commenter said: "The Bucs are only allowed to be good every 20 years."

[@somerandomguy9461]

Well, they beat Archie Manning's Saints, but the Saints at that time literally had one good player: Archie Manning.

[@ckobo84]

And there was nothing to indicate Archie was even any good at the NFL level. He was a hyped college player, but a complete failure even when he had supreme talent like Wes Chandler and Chuck Muncie.

[@RadagastBrown420]

​@@ckobo84 If Archie Manning had been drafted by the Steelers he would have won 4 Super Bowls

[@zeged34]

Archie Manning wasn’t even good.

[@blindjustice8718]

Ain'ts. The fans -- the few who went to the games -- wore bags over their heads back in the mid-70's. So for Manning to say losing to the Bucs would be embarrassing had even deeper meaning.

[@zombiedodge1426]

Their other win was against the Cardinals, who were so humiliated they had to move out of St. Louis.

[@TheSpartanWin]

One thing to note about Tampa’s two wins that season. Both of the coaches of the teams they beat would get fired after the season

[@Rockhound6165]

Their defeat of my Cards put the capper on one of the biggest choke jobs in NFL history. At one time in 1977 the Cards were fighting for first place in the NFC East at 7-3 heading into a Thanksgiving matchup against the Dolphins. Well, the Cards got stomped on national TV 55-14 and never recovered. They went on a 4 game losing streak culminating with the 17-7 loss to the hapless Bucs and didn't win another game until week 9 of the 1978 season(my first live football game I might add). Oh, fun fact, in week 16 of the 1978 season the Bucs were to play the Saints. They wanted to watch the game film of the Bucs win over the Saints the previous season but it no longer existed. Hank Stram had burned it.

[@jimwerther]

@@Rockhound6165 Great story

[@CJEstradaMartinez]

@Matt Joseph The Urinating Tree mentioned this in his video when describing team owner Hugh Culverson.

[@MegaSammy70]

Don Coryell didn't get fired..He resigned and went on to become coach of the San Diego Chargers the next season.

[@jimwerther]

@@MegaSammy70 Well...not quite. Coryell was essentially fired by the Cards after he criticized their owner, Bill Bidwill. He wasn't fired from the organization, but he was forced to resign as HC. He joined SD four games into the following season, and turned that team around.

[@nasis18]

John McKay was a blessing. He had some great quotes. He was on the sideline once, and said "we can run, or pass. Other than that, we're in great shape." Steve Spurrier was also the starting QB for the 76 Bucs.

[@slb6932]

Here's one. Once a reporter asked McKay what he thought of his teams execution and McKay said "I'm in favor of it" 😆

[@NibblesTheNibbler]

@@slb6932: Talk about an uninspiring and horrible coach: treats you like shit, calls his players derogatory names, denies water breaks (an absolute necessity in high intensity activity and w/o enough of it you're inviting injuries), drills them to the point of being on the edge of injuries, etc. It sounds like the Bucs sucked because of his coaching philosophy.

[@nasis18]

@@slb6932 he also said they couldn't do anything offense, but we made up for it on defense by not tackling. He was hilarious.

[@herbie1234567890]

@@slb6932 That was the classic McKay-ism that I thought of when I came across this video. 😆

[@RAAM855]

​​@@NibblesTheNibblerhe's a college HoF coach and took the Bucs to 4 playoff runs. And broke racial barriers by being the first to lobby for and draft black QBs It was the Abysmal owner Culverhouse that caused the 0-26 Bucs. Not McKay. USC and Ex-Bucs players loved him

[@thebestcentaur]

"We went through 8 QBs..." *Cleveland has entered the chat*

[@JGoGetta20]

🤣🤣🤣🤣☠️

[@rayromero815]

Broncos fan enters comment section

[@KR0TE7]

@@rayromero815jets fan has entered the chat

[@rayromero815]

@@KR0TE7 I think we went through 17 different QBs since super bowl 50🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮

[@masonamann6664]

That’s actually insane, I received a football offer from Minot State and on my visit they put Randy Hedberg on a damn pedestal💀

[@nerdstop5025]

I mean, if you're an NAIA school, any NFL talent produced is better than none. I bet Randy was one of the best NAIA QBs

[@christianbrubaker5890]

He's had a pretty good coaching career, did well as minots head coach, and as ndsu qb coach helped develop Carson wentz, Easton stick, and trey lance

[@pmlonghorn7694]

@@christianbrubaker5890 probably didn’t need to put Easton stick in there lol.

[@YOSSARIAN313]

@@nerdstop5025 I looked it up he was a baseball and basketball star too. He was probably their all time greatest athlete

[@alex.k3166]

same here they offered me last year 😭

[@NotForLongNFL]

You should do a video on the 1-15 2009 rams. They were worse than the 2008 Lions and the 2017 Browns, but no one remembers them because they didn't go winless. In the 16 game era, they averaged less than 11 points per game.

[@therocknrollmillennial535]

I remember feeling bad for Steven Jackson because he had to play for the Rams. Oh, kid logic is great, isn't it?

[@AlonsoRules]

2007 Dolphins too

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

Was Zach Wilson also the QB?

[@UnholyWrath3277]

Of course the lions were those rams 1 win

[@alexfurtado7254]

Worst offense I ever had to sit through for a whole season unfortunately was probably the 2-14 2006 Raiders. As a Raider fan it was brutal. You have Randy Moss Jerry Porter and LaMont Jordan. But with either Andrew Walter or Aaron Brooks at QB it was beyond hopeless and pathetic despite having a good defense.

[@kendallevans4079]

With you here! Horrible and tough to watch for a fan since 1974

[@yaboitsv]

Not to mention that their offense scored less touchdowns than LaDanian Tomlinson did in 2006... And then they drafted JaMarcus Russell

[@jaydensprivatechannel4082]

As a somewhat newer fan, the concept of the Raiders having a horrendous offensive and a great defensive is just so INEXPLICABLY INCONCEIVABLE to me.

[@summersky4396]

The Raiders from 2002 were better (even though they lost the Super Bowl)

[@vajhawj3737]

Facts 💯 bought a Moss jersey thinking he was gonna light it up like when he was in MN but dayem he didn’t do sh*t.

[@MrDanger88]

Wow imagine only giving up 16 points a game and only winning once. I’d be fighting the guys on offense for wasting my life

[@executenwordusers]

You'd like to think you would...

[@fuktrumpanzeeskum]

Doesn't really matter how many points the defense gives up on average when the offense gets shut out that often and when they do score it was usually a FG.

[@borger99]

@@executenwordusers no shit moron

[@executenwordusers]

@@borger99 moron? Thank you..I'll take that as a compliment.....I hope you.get better!!! Have a nice day.

[@TL2354]

You don’t have a life

[@mrterp04]

According to legend, after the Bucs’ first win McKay told his players “hey-we’re just a few plane crashes out of the Playoffs!”

[@lapislazuli4288]

People who like Marshall are speaking their heads. I find it halarious though

[@iamskippy]

I think we should call it *KING RALPH* -ing it❣️ _A movie where John Goodman becomes King of England when everyone in the Royal Family dies,_ *thus he becomes King* _because he’s the product of his mom and one of them “bonding”_

[@6evil6dead64]

McKay was a sound bite machine.

[@fuktrumpanzeeskum]

Would've needed more than "a few plane crashes" Two thirds of the NFL could've died in plane crashes and the Bucs still wouldn't have been a playoff team.

[@persistentpedestrianalien8641]

@@6evil6dead64 why did he bite people?

[@LaserRanger15]

We Floridians really suffered back then, but were loyal to the Bucs. Coach McKay had the best one liners of all time though. BTW - I like the old, Pirate logo and the creamsicle uniforms.

[@moopert86]

John McKay's quotes about this team are the stuff of legend.

[@bigbearkat2010]

"We can't run and we can't pass. Other than that we're in great shape"

[@Chuck_EL]

@@bigbearkat2010 "We didn't block well, but we made up for it by not tackling"

[@RobdaVegasMailman]

"If a contest had 97 prizes, the 98th would be a trip to Green Bay."

[@kjsdpgijn]

“What do you think of your team's execution coach?” To which McKay replied, “I'm in favor of it.”

[@bigbearkat2010]

This one doesn't have to do with the Bucs but he also recruited his son to play for him at USC "I had a distinct advantage. I slept with his mother"

[@redalien75]

Fun fact, in the same year, the falcons had the best defense in terms of points allowed EVER, and these falcons squared off against the bucs in 77, meaning that the worst offense in history went against the best defense in history, the bucs lost 0-17. (The falcons also had a dreadful offense that season, despite having the best defense ever, they missed the playoffs and finished 7-7.

[@TL2354]

Where’s the “fun” part?

[@david.tousignant20]

The 1976 Tampa Bay Bucs are the worst NFL team ever assembled. Even if they were an expansion team. It was lackluster offense & an uninspiring defense.

[@ktcarl]

The Bucs were avoided by TV audiences back then. No one outside of Tampa Bay would watch them unless their favorite team was playing them.

[@YOSSARIAN313]

I mean they were basically only able to get old men and third stringers in the expansion draft due to the crazy rules

[@bradleyhoward9638]

@@YOSSARIAN313 well no team is giving up star players. It would be an outrage from their fans.

[@MegaSammy70]

Fellow expansion team Seattle Seahawks weren't much better.

[@david.tousignant20]

@@MegaSammy70 They won 2 games in '76 and 5 games on '77. Seattle scored 229 points versus Tampa Bay 125 points during their expansion year. Seattle were WAY better than them... the Lions (1942... and actually a few other editions) were more comparable in term of mediocrity.

[@jlrva3864]

Long time Bucs fan here who painfully remembers the first 2 seasons. Lots of comments to add ... 1. QB Baryla (sp?) had set all kinds of NCAA records at Stanford. However in the pre-season for seasons 1 and 2, he suffered serious injuries which kept him out of both regular seasons. In fact the second injury ended his NFL career before it began. 2. The Bucs could have won the game against the Dolphins in Season 1 but they had a total meltdown in the last minute. QB Spurrier threw a perfect pass to wide open Bucs receiver in the end zone who apparently was so surprised to see a catchable pass, he froze and the ball bounced off his chest. They could have tied the game with a field goal but the kicker missed an easy chip shot. 3. While the Bucs started out at 0-26, the Chicago Cardinals went 0-29 from 1942 to 1944, but because they combined with the Steelers in 1943 to be the Pitt-Cards, their consecutive loss record is often overlooked. 4. QB Huff was a decent quarterback but he needed 3 to 4 seconds to locate a receiver and throw the pass and the offensive line could only give him 2 to 3 seconds of protection. That's why he threw so many picks. 5. In season 2, none of the NFC teams wanted to be the first team to lose to the Bucs, so they treated their game against the Bucs as if it were a playoff game. Even so, there were some close games where even a little offense could have won the game. Against the Vikings, they were leading 3-2 well into the 4th quarter before the Vikings eked out a TD to win 9-3. 6. Doug Williams was successful as Bucs QB because he could scramble and throw accurately on the run, thus negating the need for an effective offensive line. When he was injured in Season 3 Week 11, backup QB Rae went 0-5 as a starter because he was sacked or forced to throw too soon.

[@tufstuff2586]

Bruh moment

[@jellysplatter2039]

Video Suggestion: I read about this a bit back, and I found it to be a really sad but interesting story. Its about a quarterback named Greg Cook, who only played 2 seasons in the league due to a horrible career ending injury his rookie year, in which he led the league in passing. Hall Of Fame coach Bill Walsh called him “the greatest talent to ever play the position”. Also had a career of art! I would really recommend checking it out. NFL Films did a documentary about him and truly is a interesting topic which I’ve seen NOBODY do. Love listening to your videos while doing work :)

[@jellysplatter2039]

@Matt Joseph Yeah it was. Crazy thing is he still played throughout the season with that damaged cuff and still dominated. So much potential

[@yusefinc1096]

The west coast offense was formed because of Greg Cook’s rotator cuff injury. Virgil Carter didn’t have Cook’s arm strength so Bill Walsh created a short passing attack that helped Carter.

[@therocknrollmillennial535]

Ahh, Greg Cook (RIP). Sad injury and I wish his career would've gone differently, but his career ending inadvertently led to Ken Anderson's Bengals tenure. Being a Bengals fan, I like seeing comments about our guys. Too bad a majority of those comments are of the "what could have been" ilk, but hey.

[@mistacole1335]

Damn I just looked into him. What a sad story.

[@TheTEN24]

Just looked into man what a talent

[@donarthiazi2443]

They turned it around in their 5th year. John Mackay said _"I always told the front office that I had a 5 year plan"._ then whispered _"That's because I had a 5 year contract. If I had 6 year contract then I would've had a 6 year plan"!_ Everybody loved him

[@LessGo7921]

Throughout the Bucs history, they’ve always had strong defenses across many eras

[@Blessed2bFresh]

yep, there is that part lol

[@pudgebarrr]

Especially 2002

[@gjte2947]

Same with Baltimore

[@asanitationstompout8473]

No lie.

[@TheDarkestMarcus]

Kinda like the Chicago Bears.

[@EliMarszalek]

Randy Hedberg has actually had a pretty decent career for himself as a quarterback coach. He's currently at D1 FCS school North Dakota State, where he's worked with a number of solid quarterbacks, including Trey Lance. Hedberg's NFL career may have not been great, but at least he found a place in the sport as a quarterbacks coach.

[@berr21able]

To give another idea of how awful the Buccs were that year, in the 1982 season only 9 games were played. Even with 5 fewer games, no team scored fewer points than the Buccs did in 1977. Given that the amount of games played have only gone up since then, the record for the lowest points scored is very likely unbreakable; I don't want to see what sort of team could do worse in this era. Interestingly, the Buccs actually had a quite competent defense, allowing less points than the league average; it was buoyed by future Hall of Famer Lee Roy Salmon, who was drafted by the Buccs with the 1st overall pick and stayed with the team throughout his whole carrer.

[@krisgordon3116]

How sad is that? I agree that the lowest points record in season is NEVER getting broken, even if we had an 7 game season.

[@jeffreywilons1036]

Lee Roy didn't have a choice, he either played for the bucs or retired. there wasn't free agency then

[@Davepool-hs7vr]

The Buccaneers in 1982 made the playoffs

[@zombiedodge1426]

"I don't want to see what sort of team could do worse in this era." Cleveland Browns: "challenge accepted."

[@PrepTopia1]

1976 was either a great defensive year or a poor offensive year pretty much all around. Joe Namath started 8 games and had a 4-16 TD-INT ratio that year!

[@markminter6312]

Namath was so washed up by then it wasn't funny. He should have retired in 1974 or so. He was done by '76.

[@tedharrington5432]

Old Man Useless Fact - I watched that 1977 Saints-Buccaneers game live with my dad. My dad was none too happy with the Saints losing.

[@brianking7577]

Nice. My Grandpa took me that game.

[@davidking4838]

33-14. I still remember the score of the Bucs first win ever. I also remember the Orlando Sentinel headline - it showed all 26 losses in small print above BUCS 33 SAINTS 14 in very large print.

[@troyrobicheaux8097]

I was 7, my grandma had to babysit me that day and she let me watch that game. My grandma fussed me for my foul language. When my mom came pick me up. Grandma asked her where did I learn to curse like that? Mom replied, “your son!”

[@crowtrobot17]

Just to clear up some confusion over something in this video which is accurate, but many think is wrong. When the expansion announcement was made, the league said Seattle would be in the AFC West and Tampa in the NFC Central... starting in year two. Their first season would have Seattle in the NFC West and Tampa in the AFC West.

[@SylveonMujigaeOfficial]

Now both teams are in the NFC. (Seattle Seahawks in NFC West) (Tampa Bay Buccaneers in NFC South) The NFC South was created in 2002 when the Houston Texans joined the NFL as an expansion franchise, causing a division realignment. The NFC Central was renamed the NFC North, and the same for the AFC Central becoming the AFC North, along with the creation of two new South divisions for each conference.

[@TL2354]

Who thinks it’s wrong?

[@steamedclams5689]

Jim Thorpe vid please. He also just got recognized as the sole winner of the Olympics and a football player, baseball player, basketball player (yes, in the 1910s) and was also offered to box pro. GOAT.

[@guitarvikings]

Nice 👍

[@OspreyFlyer]

👍

[@mwright_boomer]

My fav athlete of all time

[@aarondigby9859]

I heard that Jim Thorpe was the athlete of the first half of the 20th century until Wilt Chamberlain came along and beat Thorpe out, but Thorpe was definitely the athlete of the first half of the 20th century and Wilt Chamberlain slightly beat him out with his phenomenal athleticism of the second half of the century.

[@lazysob2328]

For those that remember, the Broncos of the 60s had second hand uniforms! Used a wide receiver as QB and actually played better! Didn’t practice, just meandered around for an hour or so then went home! Used a round top shed as their headquarters! They did manage to win a few games but I still love em!

[@jpdesertrunner]

On an NFL Top Ten countdown they talked about this Bucs team. John McKay who was a legendary coach at USC before coming to the NFL. After a game he was asked by a reporter Coach what do you think about your offenses execution? And Coach McKay responded I'm all for it. Classic 🤣

[@jimwerther]

It's great story, and it's been repeated forever. The only problem? It never happened. It's a fake story.

[@MerensWorld]

John McKay very easily could have been an afterthought at USC as Al Davis was up for that job as well.

[@jimwerther]

@@MerensWorld Really??

[@jchung1506]

I remember the Seahawks team from 1992. They let Dave Kreig go and went with Kelly Stouffer and Dan McGwire at QB. That was just awful 😣.

[@RICHIEV333]

I remember Dan McGwire at San Diego State, 6'7" or so and a pretty good QB... but that sure did not transfer to the NFL lol. He was terrible.

[@YOSSARIAN313]

@@RICHIEV333 tallest qb in nfl history

[@hotrox2112]

Stoffer was gone after 92' Rick Mirer #2 pick came in 93' McGuire left after 94' Stan Gelbaugh was also in that time line.

[@beanshady]

As a lifelong Bucs fan, I am happy that I was too young to root for them until McKay's last season. Of course my Bucs weren't much better for most of the years in my life. Omg those Leemen Bennett years were like us trying to play flag football.. we couldn't tackle anyone during those seasons. Then Ray Perkins ..wow he sucked too. We finally started sparking with Sam Wyche and then Dungy came into town and finally we had a team we could be proud of. All worth it in the end; builds character or so they say.

[@mattmatt2096]

[@beanshady]

@@mattmatt2096 You guys are right on the cusp! Go Bills and hope this is your season!

[@MegaSammy70]

it all starts at the top..Hugh Culverhouse was a lousy owner.

[@beanshady]

@@MegaSammy70 Absolutely. All he cared about was minimizing his expenses every year rather than improving his team, thus increasing its value.

[@darlakay78]

Been a BUCS fan for 25 years...still going strong

[@kryer981]

A fan that never knew those lean years. Lucky you.

[@Dildobagginses]

​@@kryer981nah he was a cowboys fan before that 😂 Coming from a 28yo generational pats fan

[@yusefinc1096]

Reasons why the Bucs started off DOWN BAD -Owner Hugh Culverhouse was a big reason. Cheap. -Expansion draft was terrible. It was setup so that basically you were getting NFL teams scraps and soon to be cast offs. -John McKay was a good coach but he underestimated the difference between coaching college players and grown ass professional players.

[@calcaleb7041]

Culverhouse was so cheap he couldn’t even keep the qb who helped bring their first playoff win

[@yusefinc1096]

@@calcaleb7041 true. Doug Williams was getting paid less than every starting QB in the league. And 3-4 BACKUP QBs. He wanted $600k a year and Culverhouse wouldn’t budge from $400k. Wanted to “loan” Williams the remaining $200k for some Tampa property that was going to be a super shopping center of some sorts. Thankful he didn’t go for that deal because the property never panned out into a mega shopping center. I think a Walmart is at that site today.

[@3Dsjk]

There was no free agency at that time, either. Before 1993, you had to build your roster with the draft, trades, and signing veteran players that other teams didn’t want anymore.

[@mercnsiku15]

Yea urinating tree made a good vid about the bucs history y'all should check it out

[@GeorgeWashingtonX]

Hard to be an expansion team back in the day. There's a good book that elaborates on Tampa's earliest days (with some funny stories), The Yucks! (by Jason Vuic).

[@carlyslebrown1601]

A video suggestion: The Carolina Panthers and Jacksonville Jaguars going from pretty bad teams to being one game shy of the Super Bowl. In their second season. Featuring wild upsets.

[@LdyVder]

Both teams were given extra draft picks. Which in other years of expansion that wasn't happening and hasn't happened since.

[@carlyslebrown1601]

@@LdyVder That might be one of them, but even so, that should take them some time to click, something longer than two years, no?

[@davidking4838]

Jacksonville going from 4-7 in their second season to 11-7 and making the AFC title game is, in my opinion, the most improbable winning streak in the history of football.

[@MegaSammy70]

@@LdyVder They also benefited greatly from free agency during that period....The Panthers were able to pick up really good players like Lamar Lathon,Sam Mills,Wesley Walls and so on through free agency in their first couple of seasons.

[@TheBrett04]

@@davidking4838 They were lucky to get in when Morton Anderson missed a chip shot field goal vs. the Jags on the last weekend of 1996. But man they did some damage when they got in. They handed the Bills their first ever loss at Rich Stadium in the playoffs. Then, they shocked the world beating the #1 seeded Broncos. That's when Mark Brunell turned into prime John Elway. Could've beat the Patriots in the title game, but their offense and special teams struggled in terrible weather.

[@kalcosin8994]

Been a bucs fan my whole life and you just opened more wounds

[@pillbox1240]

3 passing TDS for a whole season?!? Holy shit, I never knew a team was that pathetic, except for maybe the 1st season when they wore leather helmets and could think of nothing but running up the middle

[@DefenderOfVirginity]

"hey coach, teams are getting pretty good at stopping these inside runs. what do you want to do?" "uhh... just run it up the middle"

[@MustacheDLuffy]

@Fries The Bears still had 9 passing tds in 2004

[@MustacheDLuffy]

@Fries Chicago Bears passing TDS 2004: 9 TDS 1932: 8 TDS 1973: 8 TDS 1978: 7 TDS 1950: 5 TDS Btw, 1950 they had 5 passing tds and 25 rushing tds so it’s more likely teams just ran the ball a lot more then

[@MustacheDLuffy]

@Fries The TDs made it easier to do so

[@lodi70005]

Damn, Seattle has done some bouncing around. At 46 years old, they have jumped conferences Twice. Since the merger, has any other team done that?

[@JustcallmeGnarly22]

What's crazy is Tampa has won 2 Super Bowls. They have the worst winning percentage of any team in the NFL yet have won twice.

[@alexanderguerrero347]

The Vikings are the team with the best winning record without a ring

[@boomznbladez405]

two words: The goat

[@dickwhite7046]

I'm willing to bet Tom Brady by himself has more wins than the Bucs have in team history....

[@MarloSoBalJr]

Lightning in a bottle are the Bucs

[@acuriousgamer2227]

@Fries Vikings are shit...

[@jacobchuff]

So I’ve been watching KTO since 2017 and this is very cool for me because Gary Huff happens to be my grandfather.. One thing I would like to mention that wasn’t brought up in the video: Huff was injured against Green Bay ;the clip is actually @ 8:35. The video begins to mentions his return and then their lack of offensive production after the Seattle game but fails to mention that he did not play in 4 of those five games. As terrible as that season was when my grandfather returned from injury they were able to get their last two wins against New Orleans and Saint Louis. I’m not saying that this was some world class offense and I can reassure my grandfather wouldn’t say that either. Nevertheless I wanted to clear up a few things. Keep up with the great content! From one creator to another.

[@KTOfootball]

This is pretty cool to see this comment. I realize that when covering a topic as a whole that sometimes I miss little details like this. I hope you still enjoyed the video!

[@jacobchuff]

I very much enjoyed it! I believe that you and FlemoRaps are by far the best KZbinrs to cover NFL/ college football content. You’ve always done an amazing job covering multiple sides of a story in a short amount of time. You’re editing style is also fantastic. Rather it be the transitions, narration style, or your background music it’s always been very well crafted! Your content has always been very positive when most sports media focuses on the negatives. If it wasn’t for your channel I would’ve never taken an interest in leagues like USFL, I would’ve never became a fan of Herschel Walker, and overall would’ve not grown in appreciation for multiple generations of football. It’s also very cool for me hearing from one of my favorite contact creators. Keep up the great work!

[@keithmoorechannel]

As a lifelong Browns fan, I get the frustration the fans had with the 77 Bucs.

[@fredjennings5312]

The Bucs might have had some shitty seasons, but the Browns have had a shitty existence.

[@doug3819]

I was a browns fan from the days of Leroy Kelly 1967 until the end of Bernie Kosars career when they moved to Baltimore I had enough, been a buckeyes fan ever since ! Lol

[@transformationgeneration]

I'm a Bengals fan but 65 yrs. old so, just prior to the Bengals in 68, we were a Browns household. Bill Nelson QB, Leroy Kelly, Jim Brown, I still want the Brownies to go to a Super Bowl and win.

[@transformationgeneration]

@@fredjennings5312 I recall when the Steelers and Browns were NFL and awful. The next season they both became AFL and The Steelers dominated.

[@88porpoise]

​@@transformationgenerationthat isn't true. The Browns were great pre-merger, outside of a period in the late '50s and early '60s they were a perennial contender. After the merger and their move to the AFC, they weren't consistently a top team but they were pretty normal varying between good and bad (including playing in three AFC championship games in the '80s). The dumpster fire only emerged with the new Browns.

[@calvinthegreat69]

That pass at 13:32 was pretty dope. Love watching plays like that.

[@MJIZZEL]

Yeah he was sitting down and threw a fade route. Defensive coordinator had to be pissed.

[@jadenmolter-castiglioni8661]

The 1977 Buccaneers were a model offense... a model of how not to be a successful offensive unit.

[@shinnstoneer7]

I'm disappointed that "why not, Minot" isn't famous. That was a fan chant heard many times during the season because he was at least liked by the fans.

[@RiseOfTheKumquat67]

The editing on your videos has taken a massive step forward in the past year. Great job man.

[@showtale8325]

How can you know how well he edited the video? Did you see the outtakes?

[@Stevie8654]

His research isn’t very good if he thought the Seahawks were in the NFC West in 1976

[@Joe3Jae]

@@Stevie8654 Actually, the Seahawks did play in the NFC West in 1976 and then switched with Tampa Bay and played in the AFC from 1977 to 2001 until going back to the NFC West in 2002. I had to look it up. I thought you were correct, also.

[@thegorn68]

What's CRAZY is the super fast turnaround for the Bucs after their first two miserable seasons. In 1979, they made it all the way to hosting the NFCC game. The Rams beat them 9-0 in a game that was played in a monsoon type downpour. It very well could've been Tampa vs Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl that year.

[@francisdasta8646]

The Seahawks were originally in the AFC west with the Chiefs, Broncos, Raiders and Chargers.

[@Official_Kings_Versus]

Yes, from 1977 until after 2001 🏈

[@Mayhem4Hire]

Apparently they both switched divisions for the 1977 season, Buccs to NFC Central and Seahawks to AFC West. But played 1976 in the NFC & AFC West divisions, who knew?

[@TL2354]

Good job letting everyone know that you’re slow

[@kennycai8695]

In fairness to the Seahawks and Buccaneers, the 1976 Expansion Draft rules probably did not favor them that much. All the other teams can protect 29 players, and after someone was picked from their team, they can protect two more, and each team can lose no more than 3 players, so if both the Seahawks and Buccaneers picked a combined number of 3 players from one team, that's it. The result was that both teams end up with a lot of backup players or practice squad fodder. Not to mention having an inexperienced front office needing to make the team gel together within six months, this is a task that even experienced head coaches and GMs struggle. On a side note, the expansion draft was supposed to take place in January, but both expansion team owners got into a lawsuit with the players' union, which delayed the draft by 2 months. Maybe it would not have made a difference, but with two additional months, you think team cohesion would have been better?

[@Kmax99]

Love this channel. So informative and fun.

[@Franco1395]

3-4 yrs to the playoffs isn’t bad, Back in the late 80s I think we figured the Bucs would need to go 10-6 for 20 yrs to get even on wins-losses They eventually got a super bowl ring. Good for them

[@shadowstalker7259]

I love how you said "even redit agrees" 😂 nobody can ever agree on anything on there, there has to be one dude at least who would say they were an OK offense

[@moalston4203]

But that is every internet platform when you talk about any topic like modern politics money, sports, religion, it gonna happen where people disagree with ya if you find yourself getting worked up off this you need to grow up

[@OddTimeMan]

"We didn't block them, but we made up for it by not tackling." -- Coach Mckay

[@Leader-fq1dq]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@pwilly_media]

Too bad the 2016-17 Cleveland Browns or 2020-21 Jacksonville Jaguars didn't break the 1976-77 Tampa Bay Buccaneers record for longest losing streak.

[@travisscottfan8808]

Jaguars we’re close with 20 pretty sure

[@moalston4203]

@@travisscottfan8808 6 off from the record

[@BoldandBrash12]

@@travisscottfan8808 Colts make sure to give the Jags a win every year

[@sebastianguerrier8450]

Should’ve watched the Giants offense last season. Running a QB Sneak on your opponent’s 1 yard line was brutal

[@akakjb]

@KTO The Seahawks were originally in the AFC West, NOT the NFC West. They switched to the NFC in 2002. I'm in KC and we used to play them twice per year.

[@teen_laqueefa]

Thought something was off

[@HurdlesAfterHalftime]

Bro the connoisseur of the Seahawks history

[@Seneka51]

Nah KTO was right, it was for only one year though before they switched conferences.

[@akakjb]

@@Seneka51 I did a quick check before I made the post and out of three sources checked, they all said AFC West then NFC West when they realigned the conferences to accommodate the expansion teams. None of them mentioned the team's conferences being reversed during their first season. I'm not saying you're wrong; it may just be a bit NFL trivia so inconsequential that nobody has ever mentioned it. If so, I'd love to see a video on the series of obvious psychotic breakdowns, acid trips and minor strokes required by the NFL to make the majority of these decisions.

[@pgo301]

I 'tried' being a fan of the Bucs in those years, we had just moved to the Tampa Bay area in 76 and in 10th grade the excitement never came, I mean zero moments from any plays to be excited about. But it helped getting Leroy Selmon. The man was every bit of what we enjoy from Brockers today.

[@RICHIEV333]

I had the complete opposite experience, I was living in Longview WA in the late 70s', and became a fan of the Seahawks very early on. They had a terrible defense but they hand Zorn and Largent and would do trick plays. They had no problem airing out the ball and in order to stay in games they had to try to outscore their opponent, so games were always fun to watch even if the team lost in those early years. After the Seahawks won the Superbowl people would talk about bandwagon fans, but that was fine with me, I jumped on the bandwagon in the late seventies and have been on every since, even in the late eighties early nighties when they were just terrible.

[@pgo301]

@@RICHIEV333 Absolutely, I always remember the late west coast games would be playing and the Seahawks were never featured. But the late game always featured the great break-in highlights of Zorn to Largent were pretty much routine. And would be so happy to have something like that going on in the Bucs organization. Then in 1983 - 85 I got orders to go to McChord AFB in Washington and got to see Zorn to Largent every weekend still along with Paul Scansi, Brian Blades, Kenny Easley playing their hearts out. They were exciting to watch and very creative under Chuck Knox. Positive Years to be watching football and watching the Hawks.

[@Fireyninjadog]

Somehow a team that allowed less points than the pittsburgh steelers ends up 2-12, and gets shutout 6 times, because they can only score 103 points in 14 points, despite scoring 50 in the last 2 games

[@therocknrollmillennial535]

Hey, they're pretty good if they can score 103 points in 14 points ;)

[@wholesomecomment45]

Fun fact about Make Boryla: He made the 1975 Pro Bowl with 6 Touchdowns, 12 interceptions and 996 passing yards. Only reason why he made the Pro Bowl was because nearly 10+ NFC QBs said No to the Pro Bowl and the NFL just wanted somebody and Mike said sure.

[@Rockhound6165]

And the pro bowl MVP went to a member of the losing team.

[@wholesomecomment45]

@@Rockhound6165 Yeah, the returner Billy Johnson

[@aarondigby9859]

@@wholesomecomment45 Billy "White Shoes" Johnson, let's put the proper respecK on his name.

[@tampabamabamatampa349]

Number 33, Mr. Coteny, his daughter was my guidance counselor. I wouldn't have graduated if it hadn't had been for her helping me through my troubles with public school society.

[@jimwerther]

Very nice of you to tip your cap here 👍

[@andysee6996]

This is probably one of the reasons why we got the 1978 rule changes. They really opened up future NFL passing games.

[@pp3k3jamail]

The rule changes in 1978 was because of the Pittsburgh Steelers defense

[@theawesomeguy4128]

The 77 Bucs won a game. The 08 Lions can't even say that.

[@jimwerther]

Nor the 76 Bucs

[@mr.russell5395]

Or the 2017 Browns

[@Ob1tuber]

Or the 21 lions

[@jimwerther]

@@Ob1tuber They went 3-13, didn't they?

[@lalayniabeebe2655]

@@jimwerther 3-13-1

[@hughjaass3787]

As a Lifelong Bucs fan, attended all Home Games in 76 & 77, since my Uncle was on those teams, U forgot to mention a few key moments in the video. 1)Owner Culverhouse was a tight ass with spending. 2)Other NFL teams were allowed to protect their best players from the Expansion Draft. 3)John McKay was not a good GM AT ALL.

[@flatulent-1]

Hey KTO, the Seahawks joined the AFC West in 1976, with the Broncos, Raiders, Chiefs and Chargers. We didn't switch to the NFC until realignment happened earlier this century.

[@samsquanch1234]

Wrong

[@MarloSoBalJr]

@@samsquanch1234 No, he is RIGHT Division realignment happened in 2002

[@Official_Kings_Versus]

It was '77 not '76...try again

[@big_john]

Actually the Seattle Seahawks joined the AFC West, the Buccaneers started in the NFC Central. When the NFL realigned the league from 3 divisions to 4 divisions in each conference the Seahawks landed in the NFC West, the Bucs in the NFC South.

[@rjsweda]

during 76 season when a reporter asked coach mckay what he thought of his team's execution, he replied, "i'm all for it."

[@jimwerther]

Great story, and a famous one. The problem? It never actually happened.

[@rjsweda]

@@jimwerther you sure, because i remember seeing a film clip of it & hearing the reporters laughing. it was short film of funny mckay remarks. maybe it was 77 when losing streak extended

[@jimwerther]

@@rjsweda The mind, and memory specifically, is a facinating thing. I could tell you stories of vivid memories of mine which turn out to be impossible. Science has studied these matters; check up some articles online. One very specific example that science has focused on is rape victims being absolutely dead-positive of how their assailant looked, and pulling the wrong guy out of a lineup. 60 Minutes did a story on that one a few years back. As to McKay, check online for an article by Jason Vuic. It's not long, and it will convince you that McKay never said the "execution" line, even though the story has been reported many times.

[@adobeslats6200]

@3:44 is one of the coolest hats ever. Desperately want that hat

[@colinmeier8140]

8:24 as a bears fan, i can officially say yes to this question

[@johnfalcetta5431]

We've seen some trash offensive teams.

[@swampmonster4935]

I remember going to see a home game the opening season with my dad. Even though the Dolphins were all the rage in my area I became a fan instantly. I always told my friends during 70's 80's and even 90's they were gonna be super bowl champions some day. I always got laughed at. It took a while but I finally got a little satisfaction.

[@danoneall4013]

The old Bucs color and logo was 🔥 Love it!!!

[@Destin65]

Growing up a Falcons fan, my favorite memory of this era is that I always looked forward to the Falcons playing the Saints and the Buccaneers because it always meant easy wins. That's why I was not surprised that New Orleans was the first to lose to them. Surprised that the Bucs first QB, Steve Spurrier, didn't get a mention. He was the only hope that team had on offense that first season. You also failed to mention that the coach's son was made the primary wide receiver over all others who were far better. One thing the Bucs had going for them back then was they had the coolest uniforms and the coolest logo. Now they got the ugliest behind the Patriots.

[@mrmajikjr]

John McKay also had very little talent with his expansion team. You can blame him for picking the players, but there were almost no other options. The fact that he made them a winner in 4 years says more about him than what they were before that

[@robertowens3484]

This was brilliant, blast from the past. I was at the first home win against the Cards. The fans rushed the field and tore down the goalpost like it was a college game!

[@uncledodad]

I was there too in the nosebleed section!

[@albertoskrico9412]

Early squad yes sir, you always come clutch with this vids ❤️

[@lexxluther5589]

My first NFL game I ever watched was the 1979 NFC Championship game when I was 9 years old. I've been a Buccaneers fan ever since.

[@graveyard-theraz]

that was a very, very sad game 😥

[@pastel_pink]

Yooo babe wake up new KTO upload

[@brandon.tate77]

Oh man, an awesome video on the shitshow start to the Bucs life. A great companion piece for this vid is definitely UTree's video on Hugh Culverhouse. Great overlap on why the Bucs stumbled so terribly out the gate.

[@heathguillory4803]

Leroy selmon was a monster.all I can say bout the bucs early years.

[@vogonford]

A very fun *awful* offense, at least with its team, was the 1992 Seahawks. While they weren't *technically* as bad as the 77 Bucs, they're easily in top contention for worst modern offense. They went 2-14 and truly deserved that record. Also, Cortez Kennedy won Defensive Player of the Year on the same team.

[@JWex-jy7sk]

Yeah they averaged 8.8 PPG on the season for an entire offense, but their defense was one of the better defenses in the league. What was the story with their QB situation? Cause Dave Krieg left the team in free agency for the Chiefs and all was left at QB were Kelly Stoufer, Dan McGwire, and Stan Gelbaugh. Were they intentionally trying to tank and rebuild? Cause how did they go into the season feeling confident with that as their only options!

[@vogonford]

@@JWex-jy7sk They clearly thought that Dan McGwire was The Guy, which as we all know he totally was

[@JWex-jy7sk]

@Fries Yeah the story goes that Knox was so livid, even he refused to meet with reporters after McGwire's selection was announced in that 1st round. He wanted Farve way more than ownership did

[@davidbalzano7025]

I've seen some mention of the 1995 and 1996 Jets who were a combined 4-28, pretty horrendous under Clueless Kotite. They did have talent though on offense with Keyshawn, Chrebet, Adrian Murrell and once Parcells brought in Testaverde (he went from 13 TD, 35 INT Interecept-A-Verde to the 29 TD, 7 INT version) to take over for inconsistent and overpaid Neil O'Donnell we went from 9-7 (last O'Donnell season) to 12-4 and a crushing AFC Championship Game loss to Denver. The point to all this is that we had some good offensive players on 95 and 96 teams that were able to flourish just a few years later under a better coached regime.

[@SirWalrus80]

Thanks again for great vid KTO and best summer wishes from Finland to you and everyone watching. As a Buccaneers fan not the greatest part of history. Atleast we have become bit beter team now days 😁

[@AngelicNoose]

This channel makes learning history enjoyable. I find myself really into videos that have nothing to do with my team.

[@sirfallsalot2000]

Honestly, I feel like instead of ranking it off of turnovers and points, we should evaluate them based off of how they did compared to the other offense in the league. Though, the expansion bucs would still be the worst

[@gohawks415]

“How do you feel about your offense’s execution?” “I’m all for it!” -Coach McKay

[@23njegan]

Being on the field that often and only giving up 15 points per game is extremely impressive

[@GermanShepherd1983]

Randy Hedberg would eventually become quarterbacks coach at North Dakota State University where he produced some of the best college QB's. Five different QB's won national titles and three of them would be drafted in the NFL, two of them in the first 3 picks in the first round. All around good guy, just didn't work out in the NFL

[@bonethugsnpharmacy70]

KTO: "Could you imagine watching your team only score one touchdown every 3 games" Me, a Giants fans: 😐

[@Gungho73]

The thing thats especially important to point out between those expansion teams, Seattle's HC was known for essentially using 4 downs in order to move the ball. I mean, you're already a undertalented team, having to use players that wouldve otherwise been cut from other NFL rosters at the time, as an expansion. What do you have to lose? They'd do fake field goals, punts, aggressive passes, whatever it took to scrape out wins those first few crucial years. Making it exciting for fans and a reason to see games. For Tampa to not even find a way to scrape out a win or two in a similar fashion still feels mind boggling to me.

[@howardlloyd9183]

As a life long Bucs fan and Tampa bay area resident. It's been rough. Thank you Tom Brady!!!!

[@zombiedodge1426]

John McKay held a press conference where he said, "you reporters wouldn't know a football from a bunch of bananas," so someone had a crate of bananas delivered to his home. At the next press conference he said, "you reporters wouldn't know a football from a Mercedes-Benz."

[@tedskins]

You should do a video on the 2007 Browns. That was such a flukey team

[@pat5882]

The Bucs had turned it around with Doug Williams. When it was time to give him the money he deserved, the bucs said no. Williams walked and the bucs went back to sucksville.

[@bendavis6613]

Went through all this and Brady still wanted to come here to Tampa

[@MJIZZEL]

A team that's only won like 40 more games than he has

[@larryyeadeke2953]

Brady didn't come to a crap team in TB. There was a lot of talent on the Bucs before Brady came, they just had a shaky QB. All Brady had to do was take care of the ball.

[@graveyard-theraz]

Isn't Brady like the franchise leader in passing, and he did that in 3 years?

[@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo]

John McCay ended up being a hell of a coach and really built a solid team.

[@chrismathgenius]

As a Bears fan, I feel much better about my favorite team's offense.

[@danno_yt]

I am from North Dakota, and i gotta say, i am proud of Randy for copping a spot on the bucs, thats funny as hell.

[@FormedUnique]

"well we didnt block them but we made up for it by not tackling" what a legendary quote

[@denniscatanese4846]

I haven't watched all of your videos (yet), but the ones I have seen end on a high note. Considering the topic, through the first 12 and a half minutes, I wasn't sure if that was gonna be possible this time. But you somehow found a way. Keep up the good work, yall!

[@jacobwatson1406]

We will never see an offense this bad again 💯

[@nativefloridaman8187]

2022 Texans next

[@blazertracer1]

@@nativefloridaman8187 Davis Mills might surprise you.

[@jacobwatson1406]

@@nativefloridaman8187 Nah with Davis Millis I don’t think they will be last this year 💯

[@wp5224]

An expansion team has good reason to be lousy: they’ve got to build the organization from scratch. When a team remains perennially awful, it has to be because the ownership has failed to bring in the right people to win. It takes a great GM, great coaching, smart scouting and a core of very good players, especially at QB. Without those things, a team won’t win for long.