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@Spessforce8 ай бұрын
This is the best somogear ngal review to date. It’s a shame about some of the rail clamp tolerances, but people have been finding clever ways to make it secure.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I did hear from Somogear due to this video and they are actively working on a fix for the mount.
@seanwarnercpa83578 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch I just got a new rail clamp from somogear. night and day difference. It's rock solid now.
@jonsingleton203Ай бұрын
must already have because mine is torque to spec for the real one and locks onto my geissele rail perfectly
@strykeback18 ай бұрын
Great review as someone that has not dabbled into nods but is more interested in the laser light capability for night applications im very tempted. Subscribed
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub. More content like this to come.
@RaffyJoaquin8 ай бұрын
There aren't a lot of reviews on the somogear ngal. I appreciate you putting out the content. From the few video reviews that are out there it seems this cheap little China knock off actually works. I'm very interested. Lets face it if you're planning nods and aren't a professional war fighter the cost of an actual unit is hard to justify. You're not kicking down doors. You're going to need ir illumination in the event you're donning nods in a self defense scenario. I think this is pretty practical.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I think worse case this is a damn good illuminator in a small form factor. If the laser holds zero, that’s just icing on the cake.
@RaffyJoaquin8 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch yup you hit that nail on the head. Perfectly stated sir.
@kuzadupa1858 ай бұрын
Why should an iR illuminator justify a $2k-$4k price tag.... Wven using this on a traditional rifle should be fine
@RaffyJoaquin8 ай бұрын
@@kuzadupa185 yes exactly. Thank you. I understand “get what you pay for,” but $2-$4 grand is just ridiculous. For aluminum and wiring and laser lenses you shouldn’t have to break the bank.
@MH_61608 ай бұрын
Solid review… sub'd have been using one of these for about two months now…For reference I am using it on a 10.5" running 62 grain…. I have about 350 rounds since I installed and I am not babying it. One of the solutions I found, I milled down the set screw (it sticks out from the NGAL body and will interfere with some light mount situations)… then put a delrin spacer between the clamp and the set screw. It clamps it perfect.. Zero movement of the unit. Two additonal mods I did, I did was replaced the battery retaining cap retention "strap" with one from a real NGAL and it doesn't flop around now. (yes the real diffusers work as well) Second was the O ring in the battery cap… also put some weapon grease on the threads, much smoother operation of the battery cap. I am still holding zero just fine… I re verify it frequently. This weekend I had a malfunction and mortared my AR 3 times very hard on the pavement… still was holding zero. YMMV….
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I appreciate you sharing your data point for the good of the group. Glad you’ve had a similar positive experience. So far, so good for me and I will post an update video at some point to share the good, the bad, and possibly the ugly. I’m thinking I may throw in a o-ring to the battery cap for good measure, but wanted to collect in altered results for the initial testing.
@TheEfruge50826 күн бұрын
Where did you get the real diffuser caps? Looking to pick up one of these and that was the biggest drawbacks for me
@burnette2148 ай бұрын
I've had mine and got around 1100-1500 rounds on it so far and it's holding zero still. I had an introduction to NVG rifle class a couple weekends ago and it held zero all through the class. I'm sure it's only a matter of time bfore it may shit the bed but so far so good.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience. It sounds hopeful
@cooperallgood42273 ай бұрын
Is it still holding up?
@burnette2143 ай бұрын
@@cooperallgood4227 so far it is. I actually went out and shot this past weekend to see if it was still zeroed and it is still going strong.
@jayboiproductions89338 ай бұрын
Glad you did this. Now i do t have to spend so much for one and can purchase multiple for different setups. Thanks man.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
That’s the spirit!
@TonyBologna2408 ай бұрын
For the battery lanyard, those get dry and break off of our real peqs/ngals. What we usually do is take a piece of 550 gut and tie it back down in the same grooves. Works well and if you lose that cap, the whole unit is useless
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip. I’ll probably rig up something along those lines!
@kellyryansmith78798 ай бұрын
this was hands down one of the best reviews I seen on this product.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Thank you, more detailed follow up videos to come.
@wombraider78038 ай бұрын
Getting mine in tomorrow, excited to see how good it is for it's price. Another alternative that I have been seeing is the invisiblesight NGAL, their IS-EG NGAL is priced at $480 right now and guarantees zero up to 5.56, but there is a 3 month pre order.
@MH_61608 ай бұрын
I saw that…looks solid.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
It only guarantees a coalignement of 4 MOA though. It’s probably conservative, but a decent option in the same price range.
@wombraider78038 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch I also saw some vids of it under NV and the IR Illuminator looks cheap, in the flooding it has lines of brighter light kinda like old incandescent flashlights, but the illuminator gets way tighter than the somogear NGAL
@davidsobrito13988 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s not a 3 month preorder either. Guys are waiting close to a year on Reddit.
@R-Y-N8 ай бұрын
Quality Content. Thank you for having in depth with NVG
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@Dliverance8 ай бұрын
Mine has the rail fitment issues as well. I just cut a strip of electrical tape and put it over the lug on the laser to eliminate the forward to aft play.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Fortunately I did not have this issue on the rigs I plan to run this unit on, but it is an unfortunate issue and will be luck of the draw for most. In hindsight, I Should have taken measurements so people can predetermine which rail systems will work for them.
@mchef1178 ай бұрын
Great content subscribed. Own a somogear peq for over 2 years now and just got the ngal. Have treated me great. Do experience the recoil cut out on my ak but on 556 or 9mm ive had no issues (not on my scar that thing eats everything i put on it)
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I will not personally be running this on anything more than 9mm or 5.56, mainly cause ammo costs for the larger calibers takes away the joy of night time plinking. Maybe I’ll try it on my AR 10 just to build some more confidence.. thanks for the sub
@christophallen88598 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch I would definitely like to see the results of putting it on an AR-10. I appreciate the video putting with your honest opinion.
@mchef1178 ай бұрын
@@yodax5613 absolutely imo
@mr5235928918 ай бұрын
I brought tons of GBRS risers, unity risers+controllers and surefire lights from taobao. Things selling on taobao are cheaper, won’t need to worry about the copy rights so they can be exactly same like the original, and they are all worked as they should be. Paying $200+ just for a light,even an aluminum CNC rail are insane! I have 3 peq 15 made by fma, together cost me less than $900, they worked on my different rifles from 9mm to 308. Still working properly and holding zero. Thanks for the review, I’ll definitely try the new product. Cheers!
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I have considered a knock off gbrs riser to mess around with. It is tempting, but shipping times are long and I am impatient lol
@TankUSA8 ай бұрын
Gear for the average Joe. I like it! Subscribed.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Exactly! Thanks for the sub, more like this come.
@not_your_business6668 ай бұрын
Watch them becoming better than the original in about 3-5 years lol
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
If the price stays reasonable, I’m here for it
@japon753Ай бұрын
19:26 tam atış için dedigim gibi L VE D DUZGUN SECICEN
@volcomintality86388 ай бұрын
Way more in-depth of a video than i have ever seen. Have toed with the idea of getting one, and could recommend this video to those who are actually considering one. Thank you
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. Feel free to share, that supports my channel!
@dogboy09128 ай бұрын
There's also the Invisible Sight Ngal, for anyone curious about what else is out there.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I will be testing and comparing that one soon
@_ezra62178 ай бұрын
Really great video man. Very professional and great information! Keep up the good work!
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it! More content to come soon!
@PETRAS_8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video man. I suppose it is the latest version they announced. I find this unit better than the Peq15, in terms of materials but the illuminator seems not as tight and still has the QC as the clamp, the potential soldering failures and or laser mis allignments. I would wait for the new vcsel holosun they are going to announce in shot show later this january. If not and depending on the price I´d try to get this somo.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
This unit was ordered on 12/26/23 received 1/2/24. I hope holosun pulls it off, but for a fair price!
@jonsingleton203Ай бұрын
I have several somo peqs and a ngal but evolution gear is killing it with their ngal and its guaranteed for actual firearms and water resistant. And if your patient and get it from invisible sight its as good as the real thing but that lead time im 4 months in now but i got the vscell laser upgrade .
@TaylorS898 ай бұрын
You’re doing gods work. I’ve almost brought this bad boi so many times. Great overview.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Happy to take the risk for the team. So far so good, more updates to follow.
@NightVisionHunting8 ай бұрын
Awesome review! Will definitely be looking forward to the next review!
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I will probably do a 500, and 1,000 round update.
@gunsncars11578 ай бұрын
Thanks man, we do appreciate your work making sure it’s viable
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I appreciate that! Happy to help.
@stihl8888 ай бұрын
Well done, nice review I'm yet to take mine out for zero test but QD on/off removal has proven it holds zero. I torqued mine to 20" pounds. My vertical adjustment screw doesn't have a positive detent/click to it but i don't think this will effect zero.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Keep us updated, together we will finally solve the mystery that is Somogear lasers
@caliber4545 күн бұрын
Anyone has the battery life on these?
@whitexeno8 ай бұрын
@6:48 is this due to that nut bottoming out on its threads? if so, I think more washers or tape on that section of pic would fix that issue. Still an issue, but just offering a potential solution.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I think the clamping mechanism is being blocked by the NGAL body from being able to get any narrower.
@theodoros11268 ай бұрын
This unit sells for 600+ euros in Europe . For that money I bought an Inforce WML gen II with both white and IR illumination coupled with a Holosun LS117IR . Both real firearm tools plus I got some change for ammo . Holosun went for 270 euros and the Inforce for 180 euros ...Still nice video , nice effort . I use the G&P dbal A2 for airsoft training . Very nice unit for 200 euros
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I don’t think the inforce would have anywhere near the punch at range that a laser based u it would have. I assume there’s also not a way to synchronize those two devices?
@theodoros11268 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch true . Don't under estimate the Inforce . For realistic NV shooting ranges ( 90-150 yards ) it's more than enough. And there is always the Holosun LS321R Multi-laser (Red & IR) and IR Illuminator which I believe is more than capable with all the Ngal functions but is a proper milspec device
@blackcrosser6 ай бұрын
@@theodoros1126yes the holosun products are great but all their laser aiming modules are low power.. I use a somogear peq15 (latest model) on my mk18 and I absolutely smoke all the CIV “military grade” laser devices of my friends.. it holds zero on a 223/556, it’s solid and for the price tag it worths every penny.
@mathewthatcher62748 ай бұрын
Thank you sir. I just put myself on the wait list
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Hope yours proves to serve you well
@tylerkeene74018 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you sir
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I appreciate you taking the time to watch.
@sladeoriginal8 ай бұрын
I think you need to ADD a washer
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I’ll try it and will report back.
@MH_61608 ай бұрын
See my initial post.@@4MRRanch
@j.w.45498 ай бұрын
Anything that adds equal pressure on the upper and lower part of this clamping piece (the thingy that is pushed down by the nut) will not work! What should work is if you add something to make it cant slightly, basically make the lower part extend further and touch the rail. Like fix something to the lower half of it between the mount and the nut/washer or use a file and remove material on the upper part that interfaces with the unit itself/put sth inbetween there. you could even glue a thin piece of metal to the lower clamping surface. Try a folded piece of a beer can first and then glue it onto the clamp or just hold it there while tightening in order to not alter the mount permanently.
@kwhitney62382 ай бұрын
Never put rubber on your unit
@TheReidbakerАй бұрын
My first unit had a similar battery cap issue (flimsy, catches etc). I bought one late July 2024 and the battery retention rubber was several times thicker and felt more durable. It spun a bit easier but I added some graphite dry lube and it now spins freely.
@TheWesman458 ай бұрын
I'm glad goodish lasers like this exist for people that don"t want to spend 4-6k on a laser. However, the existance of this thing makes everyone think my actual L3 NGAL is a fake. Though having said that. There are very few diffrences I can notice between this somogear unit and my L3. The biggest being this replica looks a bit diffrent in color. Well, that and the obvious stuff like the NGAL having a red vis laser.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I think that’s why the red vis version is a popular one. For me, I don’t care so much about being clone correct, I just wanted a bright vis laser and ideally a decent IR unit. If anything, products like these will hopefully put pressure on the laser market to offer more for the money. Also, if you’d be interested in loaning out your real L3 for a comparison, let me know. Shoot me an email at 4mrranch@gmail.com. Insured shipping on my dime, and a “rental” fee for your generosity!
@TheWesman458 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch I actually would be interested. I'll shoot you an email.
@MH_61608 ай бұрын
Everything you said and the set screw, that its a dead give away… but I could care less if someone sees me with a somogear.
@nicomuchuelas8 ай бұрын
someone like you needs to make a video comparing a real one at the same time as the somogear on two identical rifles. That would be awesome
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
@@nicomuchuelas if somebody would be willing to loan me one, I would absolutely put in the time and effort.
@Aspirate698 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks for the feedback. I hope more and more of these NGAL reviews get released so we can hear both the good and bad.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I’m glad you liked it, thanks for watching.
@asbestocide8 ай бұрын
I also have the rail fitment issue on my BCM m-lok rail. The thumbscrew has plenty more to go before bottoming out. It seems the clamp is hitting the square part of the mounting lug (after the threads) before it can fully grasp the rail. When you show the clamp at 5:05, you can see the 2 scuff marks where it's digging in. I considered taking a dremel to the clamp to make a relief cut but for now I threw some 3M VHB tape on the clamp to give it an extra "buffer" while I test it out.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I may play around with it to see if there’s a workaround, but I think your approach may work. I wanted to show the unit as is for the initial video, and will post a follow up video at some point in the near future where I may have made some modifications.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Adding an extra washer seemed to solve mine.
@mc6jumper8914 ай бұрын
it seems the "looseness" issue on rails you demonstrated, the ones I've seen are on a lot of BCM Keymods.
@4MRRanch4 ай бұрын
Looks like the BCM rail spec is to blame
@jlindo13328 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Happy to do it
@ch0r1z0grand36 ай бұрын
M4sdk doesn’t get enough credit compared to other cans
@4MRRanch6 ай бұрын
I absolutely love it
@Malonlabe03118 ай бұрын
Nice work, thanks man
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Much appreciated, thanks for watching
@yeredfarias76628 ай бұрын
Review a smslaser xk68
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I actually reached out to see if they would send one for a similar video. I wanted to do a comparison of a handful of budget lasers
@andrewbrown1518 ай бұрын
Wouldn't you add another washer?
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
The clamp is oversized for some select rails, ideally it needed to go narrower. Somogear has been in touch since posting this and is actively working on a fix.
@andrewbrown1518 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch duck tape... It's for ducks but whatever..🤣
@campbellian738 ай бұрын
Thank you for the time and effort!
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Happy to do it!
@baubowers25298 ай бұрын
Great review boss
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, much appreciated. More like this to come.
@temper446 ай бұрын
It looks like the Chinese are good at building things, but they just don't have the experience in shooting and testing to refine their gear that well. Or even iterate on their own designs. You guys at 4MR should take out a second mortgage, take a trip over there and set up a small workshop and see what kind of products you could make if you use the existing supplier network there, but tune the products using your shooting and end customer expertise. You could probably take a product off the shelf there, tune it, package it with proper manuals for the US market, brand it with your 4MR name and make some money. You could probably even make L3 blush for charging with they do.
@4MRRanch6 ай бұрын
There is a TON of U.S. regulations for producing and selling these kind of devices. Not a headache I’d currently want to deal with. This is a why I believe Somogear markets as Airsoft toys even though they seem to be viable devices.
@temper446 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch That makes sense. It would be funny if you went over there and took over the market with your expertise though.
@Wlvrtnjm8 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking one for the team.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Happy to do it from time to time lol
@christianmactavish27238 ай бұрын
Save and get this? Or get the peq 15 version?
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
The build quality is much better on the NGAL, I think this would last longer but will update as round count gets higher.
@Kaotix_music8 ай бұрын
my PEQ15 broke after a year where it mounts up. I got the NGAL and the quality doesnt even make it feel like a Somogear. Somogear realllyyyyyy tried to perfect this product. Id get the NGAL 10/10
@LoganCoutts8 ай бұрын
Great work on this. Very thorough
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Much appreciated! More like this to come.
@3dsyndicate658 ай бұрын
First
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
❤️
@My123superman6 ай бұрын
Too bad it’s not waterproof
@4MRRanch6 ай бұрын
Yep. It’s unfortunate
@chubpone4 ай бұрын
wheres the link for the item
@4MRRanch4 ай бұрын
Cause of KZbin rules I can’t always link things. Search Somogear NGAL on Google, sorry for the extra step..
@HDBujutsu17758 ай бұрын
Good video, thanks
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@HDBujutsu17758 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch this was on a “potted” NGAL?
@dogboy09128 ай бұрын
Reminded me since you brought up lasing the camera. As these products get into more people's hands, I highly highly recommend reading up and understanding hazards of lasers and laser safety. Last thing we need is people getting their vitrious humor turned into fried egg at airsoft matches or at the range because they didn't understand their device. Recommend getting some LEPs that are properly rated for the wavelengths of the devices involved.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I personally can’t imagine why somebody would ever use this for Airsoft. Way too strong to ever want to consider pointing at somebody in the name of a friendly game.
@BloodEagleTactical8 ай бұрын
For that price and it being a real piece of crap is a disaster. Cant be leave that. Oh never mind I found out the issue with it! Its made for airsoft only! It says so on their homepage that it will not fit properly or work properly because of that.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
There is a good chance they claim Airsoft only due to restrictions on laser strength.
@vancelandry93697 ай бұрын
Good sir, how does one even get a grey market ngal? I hear everyone saying you’ll have the problem of no warranty, but I don’t know how to even have that problem.
@4MRRanch7 ай бұрын
If you’re a serious buyer, I can put you in touch with somebody who can source them. But expect a $4-$5k price tag depending on condition and date of manufacture.
@mwsr25218 ай бұрын
Looks servicable. Alot of this stuff is really simple technology and really should not cost as much as it does.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
That’s the frustrating part of the laser market
@Killertomatoe018 ай бұрын
Did you do a review for the peq? I’m really tempted on one of these simply because I love the look the the Peq15
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I have the peq with 1,000 rounds through it and it’s going strong, but have not collected detailed data and have not left it on the same gun, so can’t say for sure if the zero has held.
@Range237 ай бұрын
Great video mate. I’m just getting into NV and this video was really useful and well put together. You got a new sub 👍🏻
@4MRRanch7 ай бұрын
I appreciate the support! I have many more like this in the works
@XeohHD8 ай бұрын
og kmr, anything og is going be prone to cc issues, its probably the rail cut itself
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
This is the aluminum/magnesium alloy KMR that was originally released but discontinued. Stupid lightweight, weight wise it literally feels like it’s make of cardboard, but I think it wasn’t super durable and was then discontinued. Could be out of spec, but I doubt it.
@Reaver_Approach8 ай бұрын
I did indeed find this useful. So I will indeed be subscribing.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it, thanks for the support!
@Reaver_Approach8 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch thank you for the testing!
@kennypreston33028 ай бұрын
Did u try adding a washer to the rail clamp,tk see if that helps it tighten down on that bcm rail?
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I found that both a washer, as well as reeeeallly tightening the unit both seem to help
@tylergoldstein8 ай бұрын
Is that the griffin m4sdk? How do you like it?
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
It is. I’ve really enjoyed it. Pretty good efficiency for the compact size.
@sladeoriginal8 ай бұрын
trying to find some pattern generators, but almost everything cheap or expensive is PEQ15 so far.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Yeah the only potential aftermarket support will be for the real thing, so expect to spend just as much on L3 diffusers/pattern generators as you did on the Somogear unit itself lol
@lolsalot10008 ай бұрын
Did you contact somogear about the lasers not being co alligned? It does say on the website that they are supposed to be out of the box so maybe you got a dud unit. Also i was pretty suprised that there wasnt any locator/locking lugs in line with the picatinny mount. Some of those would probably tighten up the tollerances with the rail much better.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I still consider them fairly co aligned as they will only be off by about 2” at 100 yards based on the offset I recorded. I’ll have to see if this increases over time. I do wish I would have done the test prior to use to get a baseline measurement, but can’t go back and change that, I can only continue to monitor it.
@CavBoy18 ай бұрын
Just bought 2 of them and haven’t had any issues yet.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Glad to hear!
@z3ntropy8 ай бұрын
you love hearing yourself say "full disclosure"
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
You caught me
@Jayscott19_8 ай бұрын
How do I get one of these via Amazon? Or go to the website?
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Right now you have to go direct to the somo website or paragon Armory site
@strat1960s8 ай бұрын
I ordered my NGAL last week (wed or thur I think) and it arrived on tue. Since we are having summer in January (peaked out at 70), I thought I would make some adjustments to the laser(s) to at least get them close to zero'd. I am going for a parallel zero so I have the visible laser just below and a tad to the left of my zero'd ATN X-Sight. Now when I turn on the IR laser, its showing up a good distance below the visible laser. Which laser do you recommend using when I zero the NGAL???
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
If they aren’t very well lined up on your unit, I’d go with the one you’ll use most.
@strat1960s8 ай бұрын
Was your's pretty close to eachother (Vis and IR)???@@4MRRanch
@V1kingBro8 ай бұрын
I paused the video after I heard $4000.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
The real L3 NGAL is $4k, this is $400- $450 depending on laser color.
@chandlerharris498 ай бұрын
So this isn’t even for a real gun it’s for toys
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
On paper, yes
@eugenechurch61358 ай бұрын
Comment! Fuess the ngal is the best bet out there huh?
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Only time will tell. This a very surface level test, and was only intended to indicate it might actually be worth our time to play with. I’ll report back in another 500 and 1,000 rounds.
@jasonbailey93027 ай бұрын
$4k NGALs need rezero, of course the China-NGAL will.
@4MRRanch7 ай бұрын
Correct, but I wanted to see if it just walked all over the place or not.
@lorteti7 ай бұрын
Nope, the Chinese IS ngal doesn't loose zero, even after several drops on concrete.
@vancelandry93697 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing this man. I have the atpial somogear, and hate how bulky that thing is. Glad I never bought a real one. Was hoping they’d come out with a civi ngal, but this looks like it’ll work for me.
@4MRRanch7 ай бұрын
Another update coming later this week but it’s still holding up thus far
@lorteti7 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch It will be nice to see a follow up.
@stephens26636 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks for the info.
@4MRRanch6 ай бұрын
Happy to help
@yesman32088 ай бұрын
I’ve had a good amount of paint immediately peel off the front of mine from simply swiveling the diffuser cap on and off. Not sure if anyone else had the same experience. I also removed that battery cap retainer by mistake and can’t get the fucking thing back on. Likewise had that little tether attached to the plug and like an idiot I cut it off. Not realizing it was there to hold the cap in place when removed.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I’ll tolerate the finishes if the performance keeps functioning well
@yesman32088 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch agreed honestly Just wondering if it’s an outlier due to QC issues.
@BG-bb2mb8 ай бұрын
This or steiner dbal a3?
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Well that’s tough. Output wise this will blow the civ A3 out of the water, but the A3 is actually a reliable and proven system. I’ll be running more extensive tests on this, and more reliability data will be available from other users too. This option may be viable, but for now it’s highly unproven.
@kaz76948 ай бұрын
this vid has sold me on this product
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
More detailed updates to come. I think it’s still preliminary, but this video was intended to show it’s worth our time to test out
@umbertomclovin8 ай бұрын
thanks for he detailed info! curiosity finally got to me, so I bought one the other day. i own a bunch units - steiner, holosun, and b.e myers. hopfully the somogear doesn't outperform all them. lol
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
The illuminator is pretty awesome, I just wish it focused a bit more. For this reason my A2 will probably stay on my primary build and the solo will go on my night time plinker
@Nazrick8 ай бұрын
I’m looking to get into night vision and lasers etc. and am curious, do you see that much laser movement 13:06 when shooting a more expensive unit? I was surprised to see it shake that much, or would that potentially be the laser pr some component of it reacting to the recoil? I thought it shakes more left and right than vertically. Could attribute to the slight drift in zero. Great vid, instant sub from me!
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
As far as I can tell the laser movement is from the recoil of the rifle itself, since it was braced on a shooting platform on the bottom of the rifle, the recoil impulse followed the path of least resistance (to the left as I am a right handed shooter). This could possible explain the potential gradual shift in zero horizontally over time, but I don't know that I have put enough rounds to assume it has shifted just yet.
@Nazrick8 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch makes sense. Great review, appreciate the work.
@EricQNava8 ай бұрын
Awesome rifle bro, beauty!!
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@robertdole53918 ай бұрын
SOMONE IN MEXICO NEEDS TO MAKE A “LASER POINTER” THAT CONVENIENTLY CAN REPLACE THE LASER GUTS ON THIS.
@MH_61608 ай бұрын
Just get on the wait list for the invisible sight…
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Would be nice.
@MrCashewkitty8 ай бұрын
If had mixed results with the Somo PEQs but they always replace them or fix them or whatever they do. The one im using now on a 13.9 has over 2000 rounds on it and the only negative has been that if either laser is in constant on, it goes off when i fire a shot. Not a big deal as i dont use the constant on feature and if im manually activing it, it stays on when firing.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Have you sent yours in to them? Or been sent a new one?
@MrCashewkitty8 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch I got in very early. The first one was not potted, my fault I think. But I paid the difference and shipping and got a potted one. The 2nd one crapped out after a few hundred rounds and they replaced it without hassle. This one has been hard with just over 2k in about 3 months. It should be noted, I never said it was on a real gun. 🤣 Not sure if that matters to be honest. Turn around times were brutal
@strat1960s8 ай бұрын
Whew! Been checking the Somogear site a couple times a day and guess what. Three days after this video, I got my Somogear NGAK on order. As of now there were 13 in stock
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Good luck, hope yours works well for you
@strat1960s8 ай бұрын
Have you done any more shooting with the NGAL? I look forward to a follow up video when the time comes. @@4MRRanch
@thesavage64848 ай бұрын
Is yours a new update? I noticed you have a ring molded into the body for the plug retaining cord. On the website it doesn’t have one in the picture
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I honestly am not familiar with versions. I just know it was ordered 12/26/33 and received 1/2/24
@andrewclark848 ай бұрын
Ordered 12/22/23 my unit does not have a ring on the body to retain plug lanyard. It was looped into the battery cap retainer. Red laser version.
@armsupwithlawrence8 ай бұрын
Sorry if i missed it but i guess you are using the more expensive potted Version right ?
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Correct, although I don’t think you get to opt out of potting for the NGAL
@armsupwithlawrence8 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch at least one Italian store has the potted and non potted. The non potted is like half the price
@Jessersadler8 ай бұрын
seems like that handguard is a bit out of spec. I mean keymod was a decade ago
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I don’t think rail dimensions have changed though
@Jessersadler8 ай бұрын
@4MRRanch I wasn't eluding to specs changing. . . more of a QC issue. Like with any manufacturing, the longer something is made, the better the process is. 10 years in manufacturing is a crazy long time for processes to be refined. I actually just Junked an upper that's been sitting, finally got to building it, and the retention roll pin for the forward assist was crazy off where it should have been. And the company is out of business now.
@HK-wq1ei8 ай бұрын
subbed for the asmr lol
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I’ll make sure to include more just for you on the update videos lol
@WearilyMistaken8 ай бұрын
Subbed. Looks like a decent little unit
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Much appreciated, and yes so far so good. Future updates to come.
@lukekerr70247 ай бұрын
Awesomeeeee sauceeee
@4MRRanch7 ай бұрын
Thank you
@dirtycommtroop8 ай бұрын
It looks used
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
This is typical for the NGAL finish. It has a worn look to it. My close up shots I recorded were after use though.
@BurnerTactical7 ай бұрын
Excellent Review!
@4MRRanch7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. The update review is now available as well.
@allensparks65128 ай бұрын
What upper are you running?
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
It’s a build. Aero upper, Roscoe bloodline barrel, geissle handguard.
@allensparks65128 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanchNice. I get gassed to hell with my mk18 and my griffin gatelok can. Seems like yours wasn't to bad
@mcguzman53988 ай бұрын
Does this one come in black
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Only color options at the moment appear to be red or green laser. Housings are all fde
@mcguzman53988 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch cool, hopefully by the time they come out with a black one there will be lots of reviews and people still love this thing.
@TexasThunderChief7 ай бұрын
You need to add a washer for two
@4MRRanch7 ай бұрын
I address this in the update video that’s dropping in a day or two
@TexasThunderChief7 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch in your opinion is it a good substitute. From the video it looks like it is but what is your opinion
@TomColontonio8 ай бұрын
Amazing asmr!!
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Only the best for my viewers lol
@TexanApollyon8 ай бұрын
Looks awesome
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
So far, it is!
@M4HRed8 ай бұрын
Great video
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
I’m glad you liked it, thanks for taking the time to watch.
@Random_Quads8 ай бұрын
I've heard they are not durable in the long run.
@MH_61608 ай бұрын
define long run.. the new revision has been out for less than Maybe 3 months.
@4MRRanch8 ай бұрын
Only time will tell as this is a new unit. The plastic versions have a higher failure rate long term due to housing damage/cracking
@Random_Quads8 ай бұрын
@@MH_6160 either brass facts or hop did a review after 6 months. Maybe it was an older version?