InvisbleSight IS-EG NGAL, As Good as a Clone Gets?

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Detailed testing to see if the highly sought after InvisibleSight IS-EG NGAL Clone is just as good as the real deal.
0:00 Intro
1:06 Unit overview
5:13 Turret tracking test
6:48 Power output metering
8:13 Alignment testing
11:54 Zero retention test
13:07 Night test
19:13 Final thoughts
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@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
This is the EEL version, sorry for not mentioning this important detail. If you enjoyed this video, consider subscribing. The more we grow the channel, the more companies will partner with us to make bigger and better content for you.
@TheAnytony
@TheAnytony 4 ай бұрын
What does that mean? What is EEL?
@harmandeepsingh6598
@harmandeepsingh6598 4 ай бұрын
In a VCSEL, the light is emitted perpendicular to the mounting surface, as opposed to an EEL, which emits light parallel to the surface.@@TheAnytony
@beerscout9408
@beerscout9408 4 ай бұрын
Which is better?
@BrianHayes84
@BrianHayes84 4 ай бұрын
which means that the ir laser and illuminator basically look like the same as the atpial? as in the ir laser and illuminator? what's the difference in this and the vcsel version?
@CorlosMazda
@CorlosMazda 4 ай бұрын
Vcsel is better
@mrnickhox
@mrnickhox 4 ай бұрын
Amazing video, great pace, great amount of info without being overwhelming, clear speech and engaging tone, great use of total length of the video, great shots and b-roll, great idea on changing the video into a night scene where you took the time and put the effort to go out, test, show the test, and show all the settings of the device. Thorough is what we want, boring is unbearable, you found a perfect way to pass on all the relevant the data without losing engagement. Watched the whole 20:47 and felt like a 6 minute video. Keep up the great work and make sure to keep up with those promises of follow up videos and more testing, that will make you one of the most sought after review channels in our community and on the platform. Whatever process you use to make these videos is working, keep improving on it and keep them videos coming!
@boejiden1942
@boejiden1942 4 ай бұрын
Great comment!
@mrnickhox
@mrnickhox 4 ай бұрын
@@boejiden1942 short, simple and supportive, a man of few words yet one who can say it all! Your comment sir, is a great comment.
@mrnickhox
@mrnickhox 4 ай бұрын
No I have not taken any medication.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the detailed feedback. Believe it or not, this was the 4th upload of the video.. each time with less firearm b-roll into KZbin deemed it suitable.. I wanted more for this video, but am still somewhat happy with the final product. I wish KZbin told just let the firearm content creators make videos in peace so long as we aren’t breaking laws.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Agreed
@Roa_noke
@Roa_noke 4 ай бұрын
Waited for my mk4 NGAL for 7 months, the guy kept making excuses and pushing it back. He was happy to make accommodations for reviewers though. Buyer beware, this isnt a simple transaction like buying a Somogear or any other product. Not to mention, its all Chinese at the end of the day with very little track record.
@lorteti
@lorteti 4 ай бұрын
I think this is the IS-EG version, which is not hand make by himself. He's only do the final QC on these cheaper version. But you are right, the wait time is very long and frustrating.
@Roa_noke
@Roa_noke 4 ай бұрын
For the price, you're not far off a US made or European LAM, this one is still Chinese made@@lorteti
@lorteti
@lorteti 4 ай бұрын
@@Roa_noke Any VCSEL based LAM is over $3000, let alone these clones are full power. I don't see any other options.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
This is not the Mk4, this is the IS-EG. He said he would absolutely not prioritize a MK4 for review due to his backlog.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
We are definitely cornered in terms of reasonably priced options
@leeman949
@leeman949 4 ай бұрын
What a great video, straight to the point with the exact info everyone wants.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
I’m glad you found it useful, thanks for the kind words and for taking the time to watch
@dbltap7615
@dbltap7615 4 ай бұрын
Great vid once again! Very cool to see you respond to nearly all comments and questions. So many times viewers have honest questions to posted content and get nothing. Keep up the great work bud
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Happy to help! I enjoy putting out data for the group
@qthestorm_patriot
@qthestorm_patriot 2 ай бұрын
Probably one of the most comprehensive videos on these units, thank you!
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. More to come.
@donm.6356
@donm.6356 4 ай бұрын
Great video , thank you for sharing. I ordered mine in January so hopefully it’ll be here any day now. And yes I think he is going to solve the whole wait time issue here soon !
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@Funkopotomis
@Funkopotomis 4 ай бұрын
for your sake I hope so. I ordered in 9/1/2023 and still no luck
@lukekerr7024
@lukekerr7024 4 ай бұрын
This is one of your best ones yet
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Slowly learning to give the people what they want
@R55Shibby
@R55Shibby 4 ай бұрын
agreed
@geoalien
@geoalien 4 ай бұрын
Great review and feature analysis. Looking forward to mine being finally delivered.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@petem9876
@petem9876 3 ай бұрын
Great review. Looking forward to see how it holds up over time.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 3 ай бұрын
I’ll be posting an update soon, plus sole comparisons to the real deal!
@Cipher73
@Cipher73 4 ай бұрын
Awesome vid. Thank you. Still waiting for mine to arrive. But this covered a lot of info.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Cipher73
@Cipher73 4 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch it really did. I've got one question, because I'm not sure which version I ordered. What's the difference between the EEL and VCSEL?
@Adam-upnorth
@Adam-upnorth 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for a great review! Very through and insightful!
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@sharpvamp
@sharpvamp 2 ай бұрын
clear concise and relevant information, what all reviews should be. Great work
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! More to come
@vaas-one
@vaas-one 4 ай бұрын
Sweet!!!! Thank you for this!
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Happy to help
@Giitzerland
@Giitzerland 2 ай бұрын
That is one of the best clones I've seen. I'd have no issues owning one, you can really tell there was a lot of focus on proper engineering, and tolerance, things you don't expect from a clone of anything. Great testing!
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@Steelboots47
@Steelboots47 4 ай бұрын
Awesome review man
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@BrandonMirrors
@BrandonMirrors 4 ай бұрын
Great vid my dude
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed
@jeffhunter3402
@jeffhunter3402 4 ай бұрын
Awesome review!
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Much appreciated, thanks for watching
@coyote-son9836
@coyote-son9836 4 ай бұрын
cant wait for mine to show up !
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
You’ll be happy with it!
@Greystone42
@Greystone42 3 ай бұрын
👀🗿
@justinmurray4652
@justinmurray4652 4 ай бұрын
Great video and impressive device
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@allansmith9004
@allansmith9004 2 ай бұрын
Good job on the video.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, going down the list of lasers to make similar reviews for
@maroonedwarrior910
@maroonedwarrior910 4 ай бұрын
Nice clean video.. I need try one of those clones.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
They’re becoming better and more relevant than ever. Just my two cents
@maroonedwarrior910
@maroonedwarrior910 4 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch I have a real Dbal a3 but the real ngal is too pricey. I see reviews on somogear but will try the one u showed. Thanks 🙏🏿
@Aspirate69
@Aspirate69 4 ай бұрын
Thanks great video - I know you had mentioned it’s not a comparison video to the Somogear but can’t help but add I think folks are definitely cross shopping between the IS and Somogear especially if they’re around the price range. That said I REALLY hope you also get your hand on the IS MK4 NGAL to review.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Dedicated comparison video is in the works, don’t worry. I also want the mk4 for review but he doesn’t want to prioritize a unit for review when he owes many people units, which I respect
@salwurstman6879
@salwurstman6879 4 ай бұрын
Great video.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@HotelBravo556
@HotelBravo556 4 ай бұрын
Comment for the algo. Thanks for the great free content. Can't wait for the somo comparison.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Coming soon. Currently working on about 7 different laser reviews at once and trying to release in order of most requested. But I have a big surprise coming soon to those interested in lasers
@robertalford1321
@robertalford1321 2 ай бұрын
Cool content, man. Subbed.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate you watching.
@Kenny-bj2zq
@Kenny-bj2zq 3 ай бұрын
Excellent Video :)
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@artmosley3337
@artmosley3337 3 ай бұрын
I’m very happy you Men are on Point!!!! Keep America Safe!!!
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 3 ай бұрын
I do what I can
@72marshflower15
@72marshflower15 3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@gevharutyunyan
@gevharutyunyan 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video!!! All I need to know about the "InvisbleSight IS-EG NGAL"
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
You got it!
@AC-bl1rl
@AC-bl1rl 3 ай бұрын
Great vid
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@philjimito7250
@philjimito7250 4 ай бұрын
Im stoked to get my high power Mk4's i order from IS almost a year ago. Luckily i wont have to wait another year to get a second unit since i bought 2 of them.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Smart thinking lol
@whiskeyactual.
@whiskeyactual. 4 ай бұрын
Awesome review, well done. I'm sold on this thing
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Glad you found it helpful
@pforcerecon
@pforcerecon 4 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this. Been hearing this to be a better viable option in comparison to the somo gear but, to each their own. Would still like to get my hands eventually on this one.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
The somo lasers seem to be a bit stronger but I think they are unnecessarily strong. This illuminator has a better divergence ranges and it comes with actual diffusers. I’d go with this over the somo, but for the money they’re both great options for flat range use ESPECIALLY when compared to the $5k price tag for the real deal
@gamerm4876
@gamerm4876 4 ай бұрын
Yea you’re on point with these reviews you earned another sub ! I am happy I found the channel congrats 🎉
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Welcome; happy to have you!
@theunfairadvantages
@theunfairadvantages 4 ай бұрын
Been waiting a year for mine to show up. I finally contacted him after months of excuses and pushbacks on dates. I’ll just buy a real one at this point.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that. I understand how frustrating that is
@BasedF-15Pilot
@BasedF-15Pilot 3 ай бұрын
I struggle to justify these things outside of asymmetrical warfare, ie, Specops Vs. goat farmers. They don't seem to be used in peer combat because they're beacons, the UKR Vs. RUS war is what makes me think they are a waste. Everyone can see them in peer combat and if you use them, you're dead by drone or artillery in minutes. Thermal is much safer than the IR 'HAY OVER HERE' designators. This goes for IR beacons and phones as well.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 3 ай бұрын
Valid points.
@longdogsofwar8621
@longdogsofwar8621 2 ай бұрын
Night vision use on the Russian side is very limited and the units that are out there are not gen 3. Additionally, there are now high end versions of the MAWL and others LAM devices that have an IR beam that is no longer visible under standard nods bringing the advantage back to western backed forces.
@flopus7
@flopus7 23 күн бұрын
I have that same SF light. I never see them, thought I was the only one rocking one.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 23 күн бұрын
More common in the NV community than you think
@gunsnchoses8309
@gunsnchoses8309 4 ай бұрын
I have the InvisibleSight VCSEL Mk4 model. The illumination with the VCSEL on high easily reaches out past 300m. That said, lead time was over a year and I had a fake shipping number from him at about the 9mo mark. I would not recommend that people order from him until his lead time shrinks, though I'm exceedingly happy with the performance of the laser and my experiences mirror yours with the detents and ease of use. My illuminator knob is completely smooth, no grit, no clicks - just smooth in both directions. I wonder if there's a material difference in the adjustability there.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate your input. I’m jealous of your mk4! I bet it’s the best for the money hands down
@Cipher73
@Cipher73 3 ай бұрын
The MK4 is $1000 vs the IS-EG at $460+. MK4 has a much tighter moa grouping for the slaved lasers, more potting, and rated to shoot on 7.62 caliber. Pretty nice, but I certainly did not want to fork out $1K for a clone. $460 is the sweet spot. Still waiting on mine.
@TheBobwatermellon
@TheBobwatermellon 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! I took a risk and got one a few weeks ago, should be here any day now. Looks like it might pay of!
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
It will absolutely pay off.
@UndertheTreesPNW
@UndertheTreesPNW 4 ай бұрын
I have the NGAL MK3, and it's been great, you won't be disappointed. Invisible sight supposedly will warranty the laser unlike my FP Peq15 that the low power illuminator died
@prdubi
@prdubi 4 ай бұрын
Great and awesome video. Thanks for doing this. Which switch is being used? The L3 or the ATPIAL crane?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Mine is crane compatible.
@younharocks1
@younharocks1 4 ай бұрын
Great vid! I love my somo. Cant wait for the review. Im just wondering how you record your pvs14? Its so crisp.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Using a very elaborate camera rig that costs about 2 quality pvs14’s
@Nebsgame
@Nebsgame 4 ай бұрын
You should do some reviews of the spec precision site and some of the lasers on there, they are kind of like somogear with them being marketed for airsoft but I’ve seen reviews that they hold on real steel guns.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
I’ve got about 7 different laser videos already in the works.. maybe I’ll get to those
@LockDoggg
@LockDoggg 4 ай бұрын
This is such an awesome video! How long did it take you to receive your ngal from invisible sight?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Full transparency, as mentioned in the video, mine was sent for the purpose of making the first of its kind detailed review like this, so I don’t think you can compare the lead time on mine to ordering one unfortunately.
@Kaotix_music
@Kaotix_music 4 ай бұрын
Clearly more superior to the Somogear clone going off your two videos here. But I gotta say both are fantastic. The invisible sight deff is a better option in terms of coming with diffuser caps and not having to make my own like I did on my Somogear, the tape switch is super neat, and the power output seems close to true of the real NGAL than the Somogear is. I think you’re getting a more “quality” product with this one in terms of quality “control”, but I guess I’m just a lucky one who has a really well performing Somogear. Both seem to be fantastic
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
For the money you’d be happy with either. Each has their pros and cons. I’d go with the IS due to the illuminator divergence range, and inclusion of actual diffusers.
@griffic37
@griffic37 4 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks for sharing. Do you have a legitimate website to purchase and did you have VCSEL or EEL IR Illuminator type? Ok I see it its the EEL version.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
I would go to invisiblesight’s direct website
@stihl888
@stihl888 4 ай бұрын
Great video, great product but it's a pity about the almost unobtanium lead time on these. Do you know if IS sell the NGAL vis-overide switch separately? I'm interested in running it with my Somogear NGAL.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
I don’t think they sell it separately as far as I’m aware
@triggerpointtechnology
@triggerpointtechnology 3 ай бұрын
The spherical lines are caused by dust particles on the lens. Learned this from Heinz Thummel, founder of Laser Devices, bought by Steiner.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 3 ай бұрын
It’s possible, usually those artifacts are more pronounced. Appreciate the input.
@triggerpointtechnology
@triggerpointtechnology 3 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch The dust motes are so small, that they create light wave interference patterns. Larger dust particles will cause more recognizable shadow blotches. A very good static free fine optic dust brush works pretty well to help remove them. But they are pesky as static will cause them to cling. Oh, and you can’t see them without a powerful light.
@mountedpatrolman
@mountedpatrolman 3 ай бұрын
That Illuminator actually looks better than the real NGAL I Demo'd when they first came out.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 3 ай бұрын
A direct comparison to the real one is in the works.
@scott2228
@scott2228 4 ай бұрын
I’ll prob never get into night vision but a good friend of mine did. The real cost is in the helmet, goggles and all the helmet attachments. He went budget where he could and said he is $7,500 invested. Wow!! But looks fun.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
The cost to get into NV adds up very quick, but is a ton of fun once you’re into it!
@Echo_Charlie
@Echo_Charlie 4 ай бұрын
I don't think I have ever seen one of these actually in stock.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Email him directly. He’s very responsive.
@coyote-son9836
@coyote-son9836 4 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch does he go by a new email or something ? i have multiple times and he has never once replied, im sure my unit will show up soon i've been waiting since early december ill update this comment when it show's up
@blackprojectsgroup
@blackprojectsgroup 4 ай бұрын
Would have liked to see the effect of the diffuser on the illuminator to see if the diffusion is sufficient to increase the flood to allow it to be used for CQB without blooming out everybody's nods. I have the somogear for now, but the illuminator is too bright & tight for easy use indoors and as you noted, it doesn't have working diffusers.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
I realized I had left that out. Will include in the inevitable update video. The diffuser would work great for CQB on this one, but drops off illumination fairly quickly so not usable past 20-25 yards
@blackprojectsgroup
@blackprojectsgroup 4 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch the ability to flip a diffuser (like the L3 NGAL) and have it be usable indoors for CQB would be a godsend. Good tubes don't need much illumination.
@Mr.MoneyBags1
@Mr.MoneyBags1 4 ай бұрын
The InvisibleSight website has the IR laser clocked at 850nm which would take the mW conversion down to 19.87mW which is still super powerful
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for catching that. A majority of my IR devices are 830nm and have made a habit of using that conversion
@Mr.MoneyBags1
@Mr.MoneyBags1 4 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch well I only caught it because I wanted to submit my pre-order😂 great video and very exciting stuff! Looking forward to any updates you post in the future.
@Jon.151
@Jon.151 4 ай бұрын
The IS-EG version already released? It seems that IS-EG version is mass production by factory, while the IS version produce by the IS onwer himself. Hoping that the IS-EG version would have a shorter lead time. I had made an order for the IS MK4 in Jan.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Correct, but he QC’s each unit regardless of who made it
@AaaaandYerDhem
@AaaaandYerDhem 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great video. What are the major differences between this and the Mk4?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Higher levels of QC, more potting, and better waterproofing in the mk4 (as far as I understand)
@AaaaandYerDhem
@AaaaandYerDhem 4 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch that's what I'm gathering too, just wasn't sure. Appreciate ya, sir. Great channel
@182mcg1
@182mcg1 2 ай бұрын
On thread battery cap put little bit silicone grease
@Dea7hWarran7
@Dea7hWarran7 3 ай бұрын
@5:54 I noticed the laser “curved” down, following the circle on the target. Was that cause for concern, in your mind?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 3 ай бұрын
I think it’s partially an illusion of the camera angle, but I didn’t notice this so much first hand. The video is being sped up so it makes it more noticeable. As long as it returns to zero it doesn’t concern me.
@jkof08
@jkof08 5 күн бұрын
I placed an order for an is-eg vcsel after seeing one of your videos back in February. The sight said they would ship in April. After reaching out he said it would be the end of June for my unit. Well it still isn’t here and he isn’t responding.
@MackEv_
@MackEv_ 4 ай бұрын
Is the vcsel version of the EG replacing the MK4?Confused. Wanting something I can rifle mount or spotting scope mount and use for long range illum (500-1000)with a cnvd-lr. Even the ir laser may be very useful for long range illum.
@UndertheTreesPNW
@UndertheTreesPNW 4 ай бұрын
I think the MK4 is rated to 762 NATO. The EG is rated 556 NATO made in China but final assembly by the InvisibleSight guy
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Correct, either option can be built with a VCSEL
@MGVzion
@MGVzion 4 ай бұрын
Great video! Is it just me or the color of the unit seems way off of the real deal? Even when you check the website it seems a lot darker like the l3
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Soon enough I’ll be releasing a comparison to the real deal
@Johnblaze678
@Johnblaze678 4 ай бұрын
Are you going to do a comparison video against the Somogear NGAL?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Yes. It’s been highly requested, I first wanted to get info out on this unit
@Johnblaze678
@Johnblaze678 4 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch Thanks for getting this review out and look forward to your comparison. Great content 👍🏾
@user-hq8hd7il4l
@user-hq8hd7il4l 4 ай бұрын
How long was your wait time? Do you feel the eel is better than the Vcsel?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
VCSEL is a more efficient technology, I’d reccomend you go with VCSEL over EEL.
@michaellusardo5872
@michaellusardo5872 4 ай бұрын
Plans on doing a Ngal mk4 review?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
If I can get one, yes
@MugenZeroX
@MugenZeroX 4 ай бұрын
I'm glad clones are halfway decent now, the umm lower end alternatives just don't look as cool a knock off peq or ngal
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Agreed lol
@BrianHayes84
@BrianHayes84 4 ай бұрын
what is the ir illumination type EEL or VCSEL or are they the same. I'm thinking of getting one of these when they are available. one for my airsoft build and one for my 5.56 build. thanks
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
This is EEL, they offer both. I’d probably go VCSEL as I think they’re cleaner
@SuppressedOfficial
@SuppressedOfficial Ай бұрын
I want one. I can't think of even one single reason to have it, mind you, but I still want one. I could put it on the truck gun. Or the closet gun? Or the pillow gun, or...
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch Ай бұрын
Get you one!
@DLiezer
@DLiezer 4 ай бұрын
When looking on the website what does ir Illuminator type mean and which one of the two is the better option 1.EEL laser or 2.VCSEL?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Mine is EEL, but I’d go VCSEL. VCSEL is a more efficient and cleaner projecting tech than traditional EEL
@DLiezer
@DLiezer 4 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch 10-4 thanks brother.
@182mcg1
@182mcg1 2 ай бұрын
Good for night vision
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 2 ай бұрын
Very
@jakemiles8070
@jakemiles8070 Ай бұрын
Can we get a torture test of Somo gear and IS NGAL please! I want to purchase one but I am not sure which! This is pre NV as I will mainly be using Vis laser for CQC
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch Ай бұрын
IS NGAL torture test has been filmed and will be live in the next couple weeks
@cleontotr
@cleontotr Ай бұрын
Where did you get the mini tool for the adjustment turrets? My EG NGAL didn’t come with one. Thanks!
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch Ай бұрын
I have a random assortment of tools that came with various things over the years. I can’t recall exactly where, but I know holosun and vortex include them with their red dots
@coldrevengeukraine
@coldrevengeukraine 2 ай бұрын
Just ordered same IS-EG NGAL from EG official web store directly from china. It was in stock there. They sad that they(Chinese) are making nylon parts in china and also housing after main IS-man make all inside parts in the USA and send them(or this scenario is actual only for mk4 device?…). 7 days for express(most expensive) delivery to the Europe was guaranteed to me. Very interested.
@lorteti
@lorteti 2 ай бұрын
Keep us updated about if there is any quality difference. And what they say are true or not. As far as I know, the IS guy is located in Hong Kong.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 2 ай бұрын
I honestly have no idea on what parts are made where, I don’t know where IS is located out of but had assumed China. I could be wrong.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 2 ай бұрын
Agreed, I’d be curious on a unit from EG directly
@coldrevengeukraine
@coldrevengeukraine 2 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch that mysterious “qualitative china goods” are real)
@Nikkihoffmann314
@Nikkihoffmann314 2 ай бұрын
What is the EG official website?
@williammorrison7
@williammorrison7 4 ай бұрын
What tripod are you using?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 3 ай бұрын
The reaper grip from Kopfjager industries
@Donnybrook10
@Donnybrook10 2 ай бұрын
great review but you didn't mention price or where to obtain one
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 2 ай бұрын
Because of KZbin rules I can’t make videos promoting sales
@182mcg1
@182mcg1 2 ай бұрын
The life of a soldier is as long as the life of this battery
@1999zaldivar
@1999zaldivar 4 ай бұрын
New to all of this but what’s the difference between the atpial vs the la23 switch options.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Just the connection interface, the crane is a lot more common
@MilspecPanda
@MilspecPanda 4 ай бұрын
Mine supposedly “shipped” on the 3rd of January but haven’t recieved anything or tracking number never updated lol
@DobBole
@DobBole 4 ай бұрын
They scammed me, sent stickers and lied about the shipment multiple times.
@lorteti
@lorteti 4 ай бұрын
@@DobBole Did you ordered from InvisibleSight, or other website?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Have you reached out? Did you order from IS directly?
@MilspecPanda
@MilspecPanda 4 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch yes, all they said was “we gotta make sure they get in the country first, it will update by next week” that was mid January lol. The more time passes the more I’m worried that it’s a scam. Since you have a relationship with the company at this point you should try asking them what’s up with everyone’s orders that have supposedly shipped. Otherwise reviews like this might help promote their scheme
@DobBole
@DobBole 4 ай бұрын
@4MRRanch I ordered from EG not invisiblesight
@nicholasbrunori281
@nicholasbrunori281 3 ай бұрын
Do you know what the difference between the EG -IS is versus the NAGL MK4?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 3 ай бұрын
The MK4 will be hand assembled by the owner vs the EG being assembled by his team (not as much attention to detail as the OG owner)
@WildcatCustom
@WildcatCustom 2 ай бұрын
It would be awesome if they would send you a MK4 version as well and you could do a side by side comparison. I know the MK4 costs more and has better spec's, but is it worth it?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 2 ай бұрын
MK4 comparison coming soon. Will also be torture testing the IS-EG soon. Tell your friends lol
@WildcatCustom
@WildcatCustom 2 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch Awesome! Thank you!
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 2 ай бұрын
@@WildcatCustom You're welcome
@billydanzz
@billydanzz 4 ай бұрын
$500 for the 'base' model??? Ok, I can see that based on the results of the video, but a grand for the 'top-line' model???? And before any of you start typing, that's the listed price on their website for the mk4. At that price point, I'll just continue saving my $$ to get something legit in the 2k price range. Hopefully Phantom Hill will get some units back on the market. Best video I've seen yet on these 'budget' units btw.
@lorteti
@lorteti 4 ай бұрын
Please define 'legit', a bunch of L3 NGAL failed, thousands of Steiner failed.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Yeah if you’re talking 1k then it gets you into more options, but for 500 I think this may be one of the best options for the money
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
True
@billydanzz
@billydanzz 4 ай бұрын
@lorteti Do you actually need me to explain to you that “legit” has nothing to do with something ‘failing’ or not???? If you do, perhaps you shouldn’t be handling weapons.
@naenae30k21
@naenae30k21 4 ай бұрын
wait im confused is this the cheaper or more expensive one on the site??
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
The less expensive one!
@RCx44
@RCx44 4 ай бұрын
If I order a is-eg from his website today, how long am I looking at to get it in my hands? His website says 2-4 months but people here are saying 1 year.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
I think 2-4 months for the EG, the longer wait is for the Mk4 that he personally builds himself
@spoonskill7080
@spoonskill7080 4 ай бұрын
Would the vc laser be lower power than the eel? I understand vcsel is cleaner and more reliable than eel. Thank you.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
I’m honestly not sure on that. I need to dive into the different technologies more to give educated answers.
@spoonskill7080
@spoonskill7080 4 ай бұрын
@4MRRanch Thank you. Looking forward to future videos.
@Greystone42
@Greystone42 3 ай бұрын
I really want to test one to these ngal clones. Which one holds up the best?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 3 ай бұрын
So far the invisblesight and Somogear have both been doing well with no loss of initial performance
@Greystone42
@Greystone42 3 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch thank ya sir 🫡
@ryang6295
@ryang6295 4 ай бұрын
Where is this product shipped from? My concern is Customs seizing it for violation of trademarks or patent.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
It does come from China as far as I know, but there are a lot of Chinese clones of different things and as far as I’ve been aware, there hasn’t been any custom issues with this unit. I’m not saying it’s not impossible though.
@dontcarewhatthe
@dontcarewhatthe 4 ай бұрын
where are your shots hitting on the 100 aiming center mass with ir?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
I shot a pattern at 20 yards (a little low at this distance) then did a range session of 300 rounds, then checked to see if there was sift from the pattern at 20. I didn’t see a shift so for 300 rounds of 5.56 I’m currently deeming this unit of retaining zero
@MH_6160
@MH_6160 4 ай бұрын
Issue is availability… did they say what the current lead time for purchasing one is?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
I think they are on the brink of solving the production vs demand issue
@MrTehGui
@MrTehGui 4 ай бұрын
Egtactical has been leading me on since December (I bought a November pre-order) saying this and the other. Last response I got was last Thursday, and since they've stopped responding to me... I hope they get it together.
@leoliu490
@leoliu490 4 ай бұрын
@@MrTehGui very close, the chinese new year holiday is over, workers are comming back, we will assemble all and ship. really appreciate the support
@voler_1925
@voler_1925 4 ай бұрын
​@@MrTehGui Will evolution gear beat the did not ship allegations?
@MH_6160
@MH_6160 4 ай бұрын
I spoke to him via email, he said 8-12 weeks, that is a huge window…. I hope it's sooner than that. @@4MRRanch
@user-ps3jh4uh9i
@user-ps3jh4uh9i 4 ай бұрын
What is the link to the manufacturers web sight?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Google “invisiblesight is-eg” I can’t link it due to KZbin policies
@anthonyjose5644
@anthonyjose5644 4 ай бұрын
This video is based af. Very thorough video I appreciate you brother
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to watch!
@anthonyjose5644
@anthonyjose5644 4 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch way better than the Somo gear with the round crossbolt and recoil lugs. Been looking at these to put on my other 3 rifles my mcx virtus has an actual peq but I can’t afford 3 more real peqs lol
@theLeadGin
@theLeadGin 4 ай бұрын
Did you notice if the diffuser affects zero at all?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Not that I’ve noticed
@RandomWorx
@RandomWorx 4 ай бұрын
Comment for the algorithm
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@walkie870
@walkie870 3 ай бұрын
How long are the cables for the remote switch?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 3 ай бұрын
I believe 7”
@evey0259
@evey0259 4 ай бұрын
Brother, the offset is 5 MOA at ALL distances. If your measurements and calculations were accurate, your horizontal offset will always be consistently off by the same factor.
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Yes.. it’s 5moa at all distances but that means .599” divergence at 12 yards (5moa at this distance) and 5 inches of divergence at 100 yards (5moa at this distance)
@evey0259
@evey0259 4 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch You misspoke a couple of times through the video. Just wanted to make sure that correction was highlighted.
@dontsleeponyourstomach
@dontsleeponyourstomach 3 ай бұрын
I heard the prsts are available again not as cheap anymore but thats not so bad still
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 3 ай бұрын
Persts are pretty badass
@dontsleeponyourstomach
@dontsleeponyourstomach 3 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch i got one right before the invasion for like 450 shipped i wish i would've bought two
@shawncarter5619
@shawncarter5619 3 ай бұрын
what switch were you using?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 3 ай бұрын
The included Axon clone
@actslore
@actslore 4 ай бұрын
So is the Somogear ngal waterproof?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
No, and they don’t claim it to be
@corbind.9395
@corbind.9395 4 ай бұрын
can we get a link in the description for reviews...?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
I’d love to, but with current youtube policies I can’t facilitate sales of firearm components or the video violates terms. It’s very frustrating. Google “invisblesight is-eg”
@corbind.9395
@corbind.9395 4 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch ahhh, damn bastards. No worries I found it "out of stock" unfortunately. but I do appreciate the reply, and of course the video. keep up the good work!
@user-vx1tp4nt2j
@user-vx1tp4nt2j 9 күн бұрын
specprecision also sells this product. Is it the same product you are reviewing?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 9 күн бұрын
Yes but won’t be checked by InvisbkeSight before shipping
@justaregularguy3827
@justaregularguy3827 4 ай бұрын
These are stated to be coming in November on evolution gears site was that 2023 or is that this November there 450$
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
Good to know!
@justaregularguy3827
@justaregularguy3827 4 ай бұрын
@@4MRRanch are these for sale now whats his email?
@kalima1603
@kalima1603 Ай бұрын
Is this the EEL or the VCSEL Illuminator?
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch Ай бұрын
EEL
@reelfever7678
@reelfever7678 4 ай бұрын
How does it compare to the Somogear?
@MilspecPanda
@MilspecPanda 4 ай бұрын
It’s way better basically and was less than 100 dollars more lol
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
They each have pros and cons. I’d go with the IS due to the illuminator divergence range and the fact it comes with real diffusers.
@mr.d7366
@mr.d7366 4 ай бұрын
Is he even taking orders anymore? Is there a wait list to get on?
@seraphimcombat4884
@seraphimcombat4884 4 ай бұрын
Yes he is if you order in feb they are shipping in April
@4MRRanch
@4MRRanch 4 ай бұрын
I think your best bet is to email him. Let him know 4MR Ranch sent you so he will consider sending more things for review on the channel lol
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