LandCruiser 76 Review - Is this the MOST OVERRATED 4WD on the market??

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@4wdsupacentreAu 2 жыл бұрын

Hey everyone, Cahn here. Big shout out to our editor Dylan for managing to cut out 45 minutes of me nerding out on little-known LandCruiser 70 facts and making this into a sick video…. But, if this gets 76 likes I’ll do a long, rambling video about every LC70 model off the top of my head… hahaha

@TAI-lr5vr 2 жыл бұрын

I've got a dedicated video to the 70 series on my channel. Doesn't touch the axle codes and the gearbox and the small year to year change but enough for most people to understand. 43 minutes though 🤣

@SHAKAZ_ADVENTURES 2 жыл бұрын

Dylan is a good friend of mine he is a legend!!!! Looking forward to seeing this build.

@HLsab 2 жыл бұрын

You have no shame Cahn , where do you get off reviewing a quality product and then call it the most overrated 4WD on the market when 4WD supacentre sell some of the dodgiest , cheap crap available.

@4wdsupacentreAu 2 жыл бұрын

@@HLsab but I didn't call it overrated? Maybe watch the video again... I'm a massive fan of 70 Series' and have owned 4 of them... currently building one too. Things can be good, but still be overpriced. Cheers!

@jamiemckennon1944 2 жыл бұрын

@@HLsab the difference is, 4wd supacentre know it's not the highest quality and price it accordingly. Toyota do the exact opposite. Sell a mediocre product for an exorbitant price, and leave the one eyed Toyota fan boys to fix their product at even more exorbitant costs... It's comical 🤣

@craigice9635 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 76. It's overrated, under powered, overpriced, doesn't tow well with solid axles, ancient, not a good daily, under equipped and a one trick pony, but I love it.

@johanneswehrmann 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly how I feel about my Suzuki Jimny. 💪🏻😁

@btron1234 2 жыл бұрын

I have one too, I agree with all points except mine tows great!

@craigice9635 2 жыл бұрын

@@btron1234 the towing part is more related to the way it sits on the road with solid axles. It tends to wonder and need constant correction. My wife's Ranger does a much better job, although down on power, it's far more comfortable. I must clarify that the 76 is running a 4" lift with 35's. hehe.

@btron1234 2 жыл бұрын

@@craigice9635 oh haha, yeah the 4 inch lift and 35"s are your problem. mate of mine has the same and it handles like shit. im 2 inch on 33's and it tows brilliantly. Just did 16k k's up north including the tanami and gibb river rd and it performed flawlessly

@rogerburman4211 2 жыл бұрын

Me too mate

@deandangerfield9134 2 жыл бұрын

A 76 is a enthusiast vehicle, it’s purpose built. You either get what this vehicle is about or you don’t. Like anything….. it’s worth as much as people are willing to pay.

@4wdsupacentreAu 2 жыл бұрын

That’s what I was trying to explain but you did a much better job! In my opinion there’s not much better than a 70 Series! Cheers, Cahn

@BahnGop 2 жыл бұрын

I love my 70 series troopy, because i put a 1HD-FTE engine in it. The V8s are garbage.

@deandangerfield9134 2 жыл бұрын

@@BahnGop I also smoke crack from time to time 👍

@jamiemckennon1944 2 жыл бұрын

What are they about though? They're not built for tough tracks. So is it just a tourer? If so there's plenty of vehicles that do that better. What is it they do better than other cars in a similar price point? Or lower for that matter

@deandangerfield9134 2 жыл бұрын

@@jamiemckennon1944 stock as a rock they’re just a tough agricultural vehicle, honest & reliable as hell. These vehicles aren’t for the person seeking ultimate comfort & value for money as it’s well known & publicised that you need to throw quite a bit of money at them to get them up to standard. This is why a lot of people with money to spend like them, they’re a blank canvas. Like I said… they’re a enthusiast vehicle. You get what these vehicles are about or you don’t. You obviously don’t.

@dannycourtice 2 жыл бұрын

My brother retired his v8 79 and bought a v6 amarok for towing large loads because he thought the power and auto in the amarok was great. After not even 6 months he has traded it in and bought another cruiser because the amarok engine overheats, can’t reverse up hills with a loaded trailer as the torque converter can’t handle it. Basically it took him that to realise how good and reliable the cruiser actually is

@harveysmith100 2 жыл бұрын

Your comment sort of sums up the whole debate.

@gideonthegreat6313 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this comment Dan. I was seriously looking into Amaroks and now that I have seen this, I'll put that thought on hold. You are The Man!

@Sub-Kuch13.13 2 жыл бұрын

In 2022, I have a 25 year old, 100 series with 200k as the 3rd owner for 7 years, the past owners went on to buy newer Cruisers. Uber luxury, super smooth 4.2tdi & still a dream to drive, unlike the other 2 off roaders. Which I tested & drove. Yes, in-between I've tried to do better, but it all failed. The 6.0 Flying Spur, the 3.0 tdi Phaeton, Merc GLK 2.0 TDI, equal luxury to the old bus, but electric modern headaches & super expensive parts in the end. Friends have the 2020 Range Rovers new ones, every 6 months, they spend more time in the repair garages thus making them, OFF THE ROAD. Only the Kia Sorento 2.2 td was near to the old bus, excellent 38mpg, but failed in comfy seats. My grand total in up keep in 7 years, including services & ABS pump only after 25 years, has been £4500 in 60k. Also Bio fuel at £1 compare to £1.70 A Dam bargain. LONG LIVE the KING. Cruisers.

@grantwatts681 2 жыл бұрын

Chalk and cheese, your talking about two differant cars, and that's what you people do to justify your weak argument. One would expect and new cruiser to be good it has all the latest tech, but are they a good off road vehicle? No, they are a good limited off road vehicle, leaf sprung, only 100mm drop in rear, terrible articulation, drinks like a fish, narrower rear diff then front, tech heavy, are they a good CAR, yes, are they over rated on and off road, , yes!

@Sub-Kuch13.13 2 жыл бұрын

@@grantwatts681 Every off & on roader I've had a conversation with would tell me, that they would do some sort of change to the jeep they have. From Suzuki to Landcruiser there is always room for a tweak, here & there. Range Rover to Land Rover, you have to strip to build a different off roader, which ends up being a specialist machine.

@gordonhooker378 2 жыл бұрын

You don't buy a 76 for it creature comforts. I love its simplicity, strength and awesomeness ... and of course its KISS principle 🍺

@4wdsupacentreAu 2 жыл бұрын

I’m with you there! They’re just such a tough package - if I could I’d have one of every model: 76, 78 and a single and dual cab… that’s the dream! Cheers, Cahn

@darcykeddell4930 2 жыл бұрын

Keep it simple? Modern Common rail diesels are quite the opposite

@orson091 2 жыл бұрын

pay slightly extra for literally any yank tank brand new and you have ALL the creature comforts, way more than even a 200 or 300 series (yank tank is the same price) plus everything is 4 times stronger. 70 series is by far THE most over rated bucket of snot on the aussie market. if they were quite literally half the price they would be awsome.

@taniaschiller9823 2 жыл бұрын

@@orson091 LOL...!!!

@Devourur 2 жыл бұрын

@@orson091 this is how you know, the name itself made this car more expensive. Toyota ain’t losing money lol. They’re smart

@TheDillon1987 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve got a 79 on order, I’m well aware of its simplicity.. but that’s why I like it. It’s tried and tested and will last 10+ years easily.. where “most” people who buy run of the mill Utes will be trading them in after 5 years as they get a bit haggard. Same power and torque as most but has full torque at only 1200rpm and that’s why it feels like it pulls better. The reason I’m buying one is I want a Ute that will last me 10yrs and touring Aus full time. I priced up the Dmax and Ranger (top specs) and to then add on the tray (for my canopy) and accessories it worked out the same or if not close to a 79 anyway.. The biggest issue I feel in Australia is that people care too much about what the other one drives.. who cares as long as your out and having fun.

@tosgem 2 жыл бұрын

The v8 doesn't use much more fuel when loaded and towing. I know in a Ronny Dahl vid a 200 series v8 went from being the least economical vehicle in a convoy towing trailers to being, by a large amount, the most efficient after they hit soft sand dunes and the beach. The v8 may have similar hp and torque figures to the new, modern inline 4 turbo diesels but it loves work and gets better the more you ask of it. It's understrung, takes 10L of oil puts up with long services, different oils, a bit of water in the fuel won't blow it up etc. These run in 3rd world countries with minimal servicing for 30 years and hundreds of thousands of km, barely seeing a mechanic

@ianweal3081 2 жыл бұрын

Unsure if you've ever owned the 4.5 5 speed manual 76, but they're not frugal on fuel. Drive it at 80klms an hour and its as economical as anyone else in convoy, go to 100klms an hour and your using heaps more fuel, go to 110 freeway and it's revving its head off drinking diesel. Toyota upped 5th gear to address this issue, so can't comment on newer versions. Now put a van behind it and it became the most uneconomical vehicle I've ever towed with, yet, it had the most berries of all and didn't need to be driven unlike our 4 cylinder wagons that are driven to tow but are more frugal. Economical towing, RUBBISH, we match litre for litre to our travelling partner whom tows his 6 mt van with the Sahara 200 compared to our 4 cylinder Patrol towing our 6 mt van. Unsure how anyone can derive economical for a 76, but a 200 going lt to lt with our Y61, that's more economical than a 76, but in reality, lugging so much easier, should be more economical than a 4 cylinder working. Fuel prices up, watch the resale value of these plummet.

@tosgem 2 жыл бұрын

@@ianweal3081 me and my father have a 2012 troop carrier and 2014 79 dual cab between us. Sticking to 100km/h on the highway (not towing) gives 11.5L / 100km. Towing is amazing, we put a car on a car trailer behind us and load it up with some bits and pieces and ee get 14 to 16L per 100km. Every engine has its sweet spot and maybe your big van is not in the v8's ideal range with its weight and aero. I'm also curious if your 76 is stock including wheel sizes. I can only report what I've experienced and seen, where the v8 tows like a dream and is quite efficient.

@ianweal3081 2 жыл бұрын

@@tosgem God, I wish, never got such consumption, I'd be lucky to get 14 vehicle alone, if driving rapidly 17, in excess of 22 towing and even worse at times, but old PC died, so all records lost.

@pheonixfps9248 2 жыл бұрын

That's quite untrue. The v8 is extremely thirsty for a diesel. Plenty of test have been conducted between the y62 and the 200, and the petrol y62 used less fuel in every test.

@tasmanmcmillan1777 2 жыл бұрын

@@ianweal3081 I get 17/100 towing 3.4t. Approx 20/100 on the sand with the same weight. There’s nothing else on the market to compete with it, so stop trying to compare it

@rogerjohnston249 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! I flicked my Merc x250d and bought a 2018 76 series workmate. Absolutely no tech but a whole lot of country cred. The sand the mud the dog, I don't have to worry anymore. Stress free travelling with all that beautiful torque.

@antisocialadventureclub4963 2 жыл бұрын

As an owner of a 2015 LC76 & an MT-1, I couldn't be happier. Haters gonna hate... Each to their own. LC 70's are built for a purpose & they serve that purpose well. Sure a Dmax or Triton will be more comfortable & probably makes the same amount of power, but will it do it for as long and reliably while being mistreated on a mining site or farm? Probably not. Those dual cab utes are nearly half the price because you'll end up buying twice as many over the same life span & still be nervous about doing the Canning Stock Route in them or crossing the Simpson Desert & back.

@taniaschiller9823 2 жыл бұрын

It’s crazy to even compare a Triton and LandCruiser to each other. They are a completely different class of vehicle.

@russellking9762 2 жыл бұрын

unless of course its a Hilux with the ‘mechanical motor’…and solid axle

@matthewrodbourn2857 2 жыл бұрын

Dunno, the dmax will give it a run for reliability

@russellking9762 2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewrodbourn2857 yeah probably…but this and the Dmax will never have the respect..the love..or the pedigree of its predecessor….the 4.2 litre in line 6…just sayin

@ricki11cook 2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewrodbourn2857 except those 2017+ model owners who are on their 2nd, 3rd or even 4th replacement turbo.

@imopn 2 жыл бұрын

Personally my favourite Land Cruiser Engine is the HD-FTE straight six. Always hoped they would update that a bit rather than the v8

@4wdsupacentreAu 2 жыл бұрын

I agree!! My old man has a completely stock 100 Series with an FTE and it drives like an absolute dream, even with a 2.5 ton caravan! Cheers, Mitch

@Sub-Kuch13.13 2 жыл бұрын

@dunxy 2 жыл бұрын

Yes it is a shame, stupid emission's....

@Sub-Kuch13.13 2 жыл бұрын

@@dunxy True. Nobody think about the aircraft's emissions.

@BorisEkner 2 жыл бұрын

Embrace it for what it is. A dedicated reliable off-roader with amazing 4x4 capabilities. - No, it’s not as soft as a soft modern vehicle with all its driver assisting features - but it’s still a heck of a vehicle despite the price. That’s why I bought a 2022 Jimny. Because it ticked most of my boxes, size limitations included.

@grantwatts681 2 жыл бұрын

An amazing 4x4, well you have not done much, let me guess Frazer or some dirt road, these thing are reliable yes sure as they should be, there a new 4x4, but good off road, I think not, leaf sprung only 100mm drop in the rear springs before your off the ground, terrible articulation, rear diff narrower then the front, drinks like a fish, all they really have is people think because I bought one, there the best.

@grantwatts681 2 жыл бұрын

I had an interesting conversation with a Landcruiser owner (ute), there was a Defender onsite he told me alot of crap about his Cruiser, told me his he needed his cruiser because of the payload ( 1080kg ), I said leaf sprung, not good off road or articulation, he said coil could not handle the weight he puts in his cruiser, I said Defender 130 has a load rating of 1650kg and it's coil, what about a uni-mog there coil, he walked, cruiser are not the best because you bought one.

@paulgriffiths7399 2 жыл бұрын

They definitely don't have amazing 4wd capabilities. The rear leaf spring hangers are a major problem. The thing gets caught up on everything as they hang so slow and drag. Go watch the latest 4wd action with shaunos last 80 trip and what mits 79 series each shit and every obstacle. 76 is the same.

@grantwatts681 2 жыл бұрын

@@paulgriffiths7399 yah, heavy tourer's, these things get bogged every where, just look around, all these wankers with every accessory known to man put on their tonka truck, just to cruise around town,

@todddecourcy5786 19 күн бұрын

Lol 😂

@Gudetamaimmi 2 жыл бұрын

I have an 07 model 76, I agree with a lot you said here, but when i get out of that car, i walk away and look at it, all i think is damn thats a cool car i love driving it and i love the look of it, if you aren't looking at your car like that then you bought the wrong car

@mikepearson2367 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2018 double cab 79 if I wanted a sports Ute I would have bought one. The 79 is tough simple and a beast.

@TurtleWurdle 2 жыл бұрын

They aren’t sports utes? Just because it isn’t a slow bucket of shit like cruisers doesn’t mean it’s some fancy sporty Ute, DMAX, Tritons, Rangers etc are just normal good 4x4s, a sports ute would be a falcon or commodore ute. 79,75 and 70 series aren’t that great everyone tries to justify them for their price when really they’re just a 40k ute but slower then anything modern and are more designed for simplicity and nothing more . If you want a capable ute anything modern will be your best bet especially with modern tech an Auto 4wd is far superior then a 70 series manual, say otherwise your pulling ya leg.

@andrekleynhans2196 2 жыл бұрын

I am driving my second 79 single cab V8. I had 79 single cab's before the V8, so I consider myself a loyal Cruiser owner. I also have 2 1982 HJ 45 Diesels in good condition and they get used on the Farm in South Africa daily. Both my V8 have gearbox problems. My current 79 V8, are with the Dealer for 4 Months now, trying to sort out the gearbox and they also gave me the news that the turbo is a gonner. I love my Cruisers, but saying that, I also know that Toyota is betting on our loyalty, so we basically buy a little more than half a vehicle at a very high price and then you have to add a lot of extras, mostly imported from Australia, to make it a vehicle suited for the job in South Africa. Do I still stick with my Cruisers after all the hassles and Toyota's arrogance? Yes, but I will most certainly be a much happier Cruiser owner, without Toyota SA'S poor customer service.

@michaelatkin2562 2 жыл бұрын

You can't compare a 76 to a current dual cab ute. With TLC, in 30 years time the 76 will still be going. Any dual cab ute will be well and truly in the scrap heap. I'm kicking about in my 1994 80 series and its still going strong.

@4wdsupacentreAu 2 жыл бұрын

That’s a very good point! You still see so many old Cruisers on the road but significantly less utes from the same era! Cheers, Cahn

@jarlnieminen4307 2 жыл бұрын

It certainly wont. You just think it will because the 75 was built properly. 76 and 79 are being granted reputation by association, totally unearned.

@thetruth9116 2 жыл бұрын

Actually if you travel around the developing world you will see all varieties of Japanese off roaders that are 30+ years old and still running. Many of them are dual cab Utes.

@jayd3931 Жыл бұрын

Who owns a vehicle for 30 years??? I don't know a single person that has ever owned a vehicle for 30 years. Why would you care if it lasts that long?

@EsamKabliPhotography 2 жыл бұрын

I used to own Toyota Troopy for 5 years, i bought it new 2015 with 6 cylinders diesel, you need to spend thousands of $ to make it a little bit comfortable, it look cool after you add accessories like bull bar and others, it was under power, noisy but tough as a rock and easy to modify you can remove the roof ad tent or kitchen there is no limit, i liked it very much specially the field of view you can see everything out side the car, i now own Toyota Fortuner, very comfortable very capable car, so if you do not do a very tough or hard terrain trips you do not need such a car, in the past 5 years i did only 2 very tough road trips, and i think i could have mange with the Fortuner.

@harrymakongwa1147 8 ай бұрын

You won't see 75 series in USA market ,if they allow ,they will crash their vehicle industry.. Get one with 1VD ,and 1HZ engine you will never regret.. I love the one with double cabin ..it screams power

@sky73x 2 жыл бұрын

I really really want to like the 76 because of the reasons many do like them - simple, rugged and the sound. But the most pertinent argument noted is not much has changed in them from an engineering standpoint for 30+yrs - to be asking drug money for them alongside of and equal to a 200 series Toyota are undoubtedly taking the piss and laughing all the way to the shareholders conferences.

@jamesmitchell8490 2 жыл бұрын

I've got one I didn't need drug money to buy one either. I picked up a brand new one for 70k. A second hand 200 wouldn't even come close to that price

@zwen3763 2 жыл бұрын

Toyota could sell it at 50k and it would still not be attractive to the vast majority because its super outdated. So why not charge more because the people who would pay 50k for this probably would pay the extra 20k anyways.

@steveworth4098 2 жыл бұрын

Rear track correction helps massively in sand and towing.. also you may notice without the track correction if you overtake on the highway with a decent camber, as the vehicle crosses the camber at speed it can be a little scetchy..

@Gudetamaimmi 2 жыл бұрын

I notice that in mine, tends to track weird, but live axles are not the best handling cars either

@robmactaggart3882 2 жыл бұрын

Hi I have a 2017 76 with a track corrected rear diff. No lift, with upgraded shocks otherwise stock. Happy for you guys to use it to compare with a non corrected rear diff. I live in Brisbane. Regards Rob

@newcastlemusic 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 76 series with a rear track correction. Happy to make myself available for a comparison video if you're interested. I'm Newcastle based. Stockton Beach maybe?

@chrisbastin6074 2 жыл бұрын

1. Some people don't want all that extra scrap that they chuck on modern cars that goes wrong and is annoying. Some people would rather have a 60s mustang over a 2020 mustang, it's the same principle. 2. I'm 6'9 and I fit in mine better than all work cars I have access to (2021 hilux, ranger, dmax). 3. The engine is tuned to be super reliable. You want power, tune it for that and it'll still be more reliable than the rest of the industry

@sethparkinson1023 2 жыл бұрын

Brand new, up to like 90k. A tune (gutless), clutch (shit weak stock clutch), properly designed rear diff with coils, (spring hangers absolutely ruin rear clearance), 35k. A bunch of mods to make the interior actually nice (arm rests, decent cupholders, headunit, etc. alongside all your normal vehicle mods, could be anywhere from $100 to 10k. You'll pay over 100k to get a decent vehicle, and yes, at that point it is a nice rig. OR you can buy a 2022 Dmax, with all that and more, for a third of the price, SAS it and end up with a more capable rig for less. I work at ARB as an accessory fitter, and all 3 senior fitters/mechanics/auto sparkies all aghree that the 79/76 is a shit box on wheels, way overpriced. Maybe if it wasn't priced at 90k, maybe instead if it were priced at 40k it would be worth it but as it sits now, not a chance.

@dunxy 2 жыл бұрын

90k is 20k more than people pay now, go back a few and they were 10k under this. I actually do agree about spring hangers but it isn't a deal breaker, couldn't care about interior as my gxl has arm rests, you talking about povo workmate or something? Clutch is fine if you don't drive like a retard or tune it for power you don't actually need(its not a drag car ffs...) I cant see a dmax lasting or surviving anywhere near as long, they need far higher rpms to perform, not going to go the distance. How many of these workers have actually owned a 70 for a long time? A SAS on a DMAX is going to cost what properly engineered? I like my vehicles legal and insurable, far easier buying one that leaves factory with a solid front.

@moparman1506 2 жыл бұрын

I’m in the mining industry and it is the only thing that can handle the environment. I have one personally not fancy no bells n whistles but I know I can go out 4wding give it a hard time and still drive home. crazy prices now especially with the Covid tax

@hartzland7658 2 жыл бұрын

Love my 79, overpriced? yes, overrated? depends. I also have a current model Dmax full of electronic wizardry that I don't want or need. Sure it drives like a car & the 79 like a truck but the 79 is the one I would choose to put a smile on my face when I take it to hell & back!

@roberthay7554 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 76 and share your sentiments

@davefinlay3252 2 жыл бұрын

Love your content and awesome attitude guys this is a very underrated 4WD channel!

@Sub-Kuch13.13 2 жыл бұрын

Leaves the factory at $40k + Your countries taxes & customs=$80k

@dirttales 2 жыл бұрын

Man I wish we could complain about the 70 series here in the USA, oh wait we don't even get em... Much better choice than anything we have to chose from..

@4wdsupacentreAu 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I always find it strange that you didn't get the GRJ petrol version... no worries about emissions then! But considering how cheap your USDM trucks are over there... and how low the sales of the 200 Series were when it was available, I don't think the 70 Series would be all that popular... considering an SR5 4Runner is about 40K USD it would mean the 76 would be about 60K USD and you'd get less equipment! When we're out around a campfire we also bring up that we wish we got the 4Runner over here (we did a couple generations ago...) that with the diesel out of the HiLux would've been a hit over here I reckon! anyway, thanks for watching anyway and offering another perspective... I suppose we can't really complain! Cheers, Cahn

@ridiculousthings4x4 2 жыл бұрын

I'd be keen to do a comparison between what you're portraying and my 76 which is what I would consider "how it should have been from factory". I'm almost neighbours with your Lisarow store.

@shaddonaghue 2 жыл бұрын

This collaboration need to happen, I would be keen to watch

@ryan8208 2 жыл бұрын

Sweet video guys. If it's of any use, I've got a 2012 76 relatively stock (2inch lift on 33" ATZ) it drove like absoutle puss on sand. Offset rims (although maybe frowned upon) fixed the problem. Even noticed a difference on the highway

@The_aljbelly Жыл бұрын

is it good as a daily driving on the highway? hope you can help

@thetruth9116 2 жыл бұрын

The 70 series LCs are like the Nokia 3310 mobile phones. Simple, tough and reliable. But the former is ridiculously expensive compared to modern day off roaders, and the latter is much much cheaper than a modern smartphone. This is why Toyota is really taking the p-ss out of the general public with their pricing.

@lp4270 2 жыл бұрын

I can sort of see it being a little bit more expensive than comparable vehicles due to it being sold it a small market and costing a bit to develop. but 20-30k more than a comparable dual cab is way to expensive. But I can see why they do that too. Because they can and it still sells. I've worked on fitting stuff to heaps of them. Still don't understand it one bit.

@truthseeker3536 2 жыл бұрын

@Logical Perspective Actually they are not all made in Japan. They have a factory in Europe, and i believe there is one in Latin America also. They are not selling the foreign made ones for much less than the Japanese ones. They also break down in the bush like all other vehicles.

@jasonrose6384 2 жыл бұрын

Just today I’ve ordered a new 79 GXL duel cab with a few bits, bull bar,heavy duty painted tray,tow bar,scrub bars and side steps drive away $93000 I’m prepared to wait the 2 years it might take as my hilux will be ready to change over then huge savings if you aren’t in a hurry

@4wdsupacentreAu 2 жыл бұрын

We’re sure you’ll be stoked with it! As much as Mitch says he doesn’t like it, it’s always the first 4WD he jumps in when we’re heading on a trip - they do put a smile on your face! Cheers, Cahn

@HammerRocks 2 жыл бұрын

Mitch obviously does not get the LC70 series. Very surprised considering he likes old school 4WDs. You don't buy this vehicle and expect modern conveniences and/or luxury appointments. You buy the 70 series for it's ruggedness, dependability, off-road ability, and reliability (& some might even buy it for it's old school cool looks). Giving the owner peace of mind that wherever you take it, it will be able to take you back home. If you want comfort, gadgets & mod-cons, that's what the LC200 is for. In the used car market, they (76 & 200) play in the same price bracket (almost), and if it's the latter what you're after, get the LC200. I would, and it (LC200) comes with an automatic. You definitely do not buy an LC70 series for value. If you want value look elsewhere. But if you want a tough, durable, rugged 4WD (and one that has solid front axle), with a wide support network, it's worth seriously considering.

@Bigsoot7393 2 жыл бұрын

They don't have off road capabilities but haha, flexes like a brick, spring hangers are so low on rear, un even wheel track

@andregolledge2304 2 жыл бұрын

For a car that has the bare minimum it's quiet obvious Toyota is making big profit from these cars. It's a rip-off, what are you actually paying for, they should be maximum $50k brand new. Otherwise your paying that much just so then you can be "OLD SCHOOL" 😂

@Bigsoot7393 2 жыл бұрын

@@andregolledge2304 yeah exactly my mate has a dual cab workmate and it doesn't even come with a clock hahaha just has a black piece of plastic where the clock should be

@thetruth9116 2 жыл бұрын

You don't pay more for less. Toyota has managed to make a mockery of the people, but it takes two to tango.

@HammerRocks 2 жыл бұрын

@@thetruth9116 I agree with you. But with their ongoing popularity and a long waiting list for a brand new one, it seems many disagree with us.

@luketoms2476 2 жыл бұрын

I think that on there own they are a great 4x4. I think if you have the money to spend on it you can make them even better. But one thing that I don’t get is the price. I feel like your paying for the badge not the car. I believe that they are way over priced for what they are but I really do believe that they are a great car. Even better if you have the money to take it to the next level. Cheers 🍻

@4wdsupacentreAu 2 жыл бұрын

Well said mate! I absolutely love this thing, but I just can’t get past the ridiculous price tag haha. Cheers, Mitch

@HuntingOldYella 2 жыл бұрын

I'm a mechanic of 25yrs experience on Toyota's. The V8 is the worst engine ever built by Toyota, it was a rush to comply with the Australian emission laws same issue with the Hilux D4D

@Sub-Kuch13.13 2 жыл бұрын

@ln5747 2 жыл бұрын

Which Hilux D4D? Do you mean the 3.0? The 2.4 and 2.8 more recently are also D4D right?

@richardatkin8526 2 жыл бұрын

If (and it's a big if) they can sort out the service issue (i.e. create a nationwide service network), I'd take an Ineos Grenadier over a 76 series for sure

@chairmanmeow1875 2 жыл бұрын

Waiting with bated breath on this exact point before I put down a deposit

@grantwatts681 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I've been watching the car develop for four years, and if you park one next to a cruiser is about same size, I believe they are talking with BMW. But I do like them.

@joerihensen1933 2 жыл бұрын

The 70series is officialy not for sale here in europe, but sometimes you see a new 70 driving here thanks to the grey import. Two weeks ago i saw a 79 double cab driving here in belgium. 🥰👍.

@taniaschiller9823 2 жыл бұрын

You know the old saying: “You either own a LandCruiser or you wish you could afford one”. Most people won’t be buying these for technology, creature comforts or great handling. They buy them for the extreme long term reliability and simple engineering that just works on & off road without all the extra bells and whistles that cause most of the problems in today’s vehicles. With simple regular maintenance it will keep on trucking and you’ll be getting most of your money back in 2-3 decades time on resale. PS: I’d absolutely love the opportunity to buy a brand new Cruiser in Australia with the 1HZ engine as currently available in 3rd world countries around the world. Even less electronics and things to go wrong. That engine will outlast humanity itself.

@garyhost1830 2 жыл бұрын

I own an 80 series wagon and a 79 series ute. Both with the 1hz. Best engine (durable) ever put in a car. I wish new landcruisers were sold with them here too.

@Sub-Kuch13.13 2 жыл бұрын

@thetruth9116 2 жыл бұрын

The newer 70s are not as reliable as those older 1hz naturally aspirated models.

@anthonyconway180 2 жыл бұрын

Yes sure are !! drove past Colac Toyota yesterday nice dual cab with ARB bar, and tray $126 000:!!

@4wdsupacentreAu 2 жыл бұрын

You and Mitch would get along hahaha - he called so many dealers to find this one and was so shocked when they kept asking for more than $100K… I swear I overheard “What?! Why?” on every phone call hahaha Cheers, Cahn

@jmginthent651 2 жыл бұрын

Off topic but I've had the kings car seat covers for a year up here in the NT and they are Fantastic. Awesome value.

@jamiemckennon1944 2 жыл бұрын

Bottom line is, you're paying $80k+ for a car that, if it were made by another manufacturer it would be $40-50k and they would have addressed all the issues Toyota should have... Good car in stock form? Meh. Good car if you spend $30k on it? Yeah. $50k if you want to upgrade to an auto. Overrated? Yes. Overpriced? Hell yes!

@flight2k5 2 жыл бұрын

🤣😂 naw take jeep for instance. They’ve been garbage since day one and jeep has never corrected that.

@jamiemckennon1944 2 жыл бұрын

@@flight2k5 haha yes true. Well Jeep and Toyota are a fair comparison I guess

@flight2k5 2 жыл бұрын

@@jamiemckennon1944 well jeeps are garbage. Toyotas are not.

@jamiemckennon1944 2 жыл бұрын

@@flight2k5 we'll have to agree to disagree 🤣

@flight2k5 2 жыл бұрын

@@jamiemckennon1944 no way anyone can claim hero’s are ultra reliable heavy duty trucks 🤣😂

@hipetwa 2 жыл бұрын

In Namibia we got the 76 series with a 4.2 straight diesel, 4.0 v6 petrol and the v8 diesel

@koscocosco5309 2 жыл бұрын

How is the v6 petrol?... Consumption wise.

@hipetwa 2 жыл бұрын

@@koscocosco5309 the v6 is good not heavy on fuel consumption

@Sub-Kuch13.13 2 жыл бұрын

@afonsonobrega4337 2 жыл бұрын

What people dont get is that for the price you pay for a 2014 model yes it does lack in some comfort and technology but if you do all the preventitive maintenance to that vehicle, and drive it off road with care in 2054, 30 years after it was produced, it will drive like a brand new car. My kzj70 has 500k km on, and it has always taken me everywhere i need to go, never failed. And it drives better than all of my friends cars that have half its age.

@dixonbuttes6564 2 жыл бұрын

Come check out our Toyota trucks in the US, and you’ll become cultishly attached to the LC70... the solid, reliable, durable trucks are gone from our lineups. The “Tacoma” has toy axles and so much electronic junk, it’s not even in the same category with the LCs. Same with the 4Runner. That LC is dreamy for those who go get it.

@abelkanego4910 2 жыл бұрын

Landcruiser 70 series is the best ever 4wd produced. Living in 3 world countries, we value this car more than all the new comers. Its power and durability is unbeatable... Would still chose a 70 series over any modern 4WD..

@fatchunk3678 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with people that question the price, but it’s the last “forever car” on the market. Look at the camper industry, 70k for a hybrid camper, 40k for a slide on? If you’re going to talk about the sum if it’s parts, that’s way more of an outrage than a 70.

@rollyb5061 2 жыл бұрын

these 76's are not for everyone, you either love them or hate them, the rear wheel track to me it is a mind thing more than a engineering problem , i have a 2008 model 79 in standard form for work and a modified 2013 model with the rear track corrected , you hardly notice the difference, if any and i have a 2018 dual cab 79 with the upgrade injectors and gear box and a DPF and rear wheel track corrected, they all perform different , expensive to buy and modify yes but lets talk resale, these Cruisers are a investment.Thanks Cahn

@jacquesbezuidenhout4882 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 79 series double cab 4lt petrol and love it 😎

@Vacublaster1 2 жыл бұрын

I used to drive those in the desert and I wasn't impressed with the 76 series troop carriers at all. Mitch talks sense and Cahn makes excuses for Toyota. Funny about the width of that rear diff, Toyota just got lazy and couldn't be bothered to change the diff width.

@17Viking 2 жыл бұрын

This is a light commercial vehicle which is why it's not loaded with modern interior comforts. Build numbers are comparatively low and the design makes manufacturing less streamlined than say high production volume monocoque chassis vehicles - hence the higher price. Power is balanced for reliability and longevity - it's meant to chug along rather than be fast. In previous vehicles I've owned, auto gearboxes and electronics have been the most likely fail or limitation points. The 76 isn't perfect either - in my opinion rear track correction improved off road driving - some sand conditions in particular. The brake booster upgrade is also worthwhile. GVM upgrade also for touring. If you use it for the intended purpose it just reliably gets the job done - it's boring but that suits me. If you want it to go fast, hold 5th gear on any hill while towing, be luxurious inside and be awesome around town then you will either spend a heap of $ on mods or be disappointed.

@bigpole6715 2 жыл бұрын

So why is it so expensive if it hasn’t changed since the 80’s ?

@TheSaltySailfish 2 жыл бұрын

I daily drive a 2019 Dualcab 79, not for work either. I know all its flaws, but i wouldnt change it for a thing

@jaybarr1138 2 жыл бұрын

The land cruisers were designed by Toyota for the strength and reliability for the outback and remote place’s and at least Toyota still sell a vehicle like this as many other companies stopped 10 years ago Toyota 70 series are now one of the only solid front axels vehicles sold apart from a land-rove or off road truck.

@Sub-Kuch13.13 2 жыл бұрын

@gregstunnell3342 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 76 and not sure if has been mentioned already, but (ohhhh and as a mechanic, some of my reasoning was) but 1 of the main reasons I bought mine was, as with any 70 series, they are a dime a dozen, every cow cocky, mine and construction company have them, so when remote, parts are very easy to get and workshops are well versed in fixing them, unlike a lot of vehicles out there where dealerships might not be as accessible in remote areas for repairs.

@simona4315 Жыл бұрын

I've been to over 30 African countries. Some really rough places like DRC and Sierra Leone. Some really bad situations, rain weather, bridge broken, clearing custom delays, elections raucous, each time I've prayed that my Land Cruiser doesn't let down and we get stuck in a really bad spot. And, it's never let me down, any cruiser I've had over last 20 years, 75,79, 80,100,105,200. (I worked in mining) So it's a friend and for me, I'm loyal to my friends. I've only had a Cruiser in my garage since I could afford one (Hilux before that). The question whether it's worth it doesn't matter. There's nothing else. For me or in fact my father, who got his first Land Cruiser in 1978.

@michaelibbotson1274 2 жыл бұрын

I drove these for a living and they are tough as nails but handle like a shopping trolley, no tech, ugly, heavy and not even that powerful until you tune them. I would never in a million years own one unless I owned a station and used it for work every day. Easily most over rated car in Australia.

@4wdsupacentreAu 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s it - horses for courses, if you need a 70 Series then you need a 70 Series and there’s not much else that compares. But if you’re after comfort get something else I suppose! Cheers, Cahn

@kevingm8759 2 жыл бұрын

best litres per hundred i’ve gotten is 10.5 driving at 110 kmph 2013 with an upgraded box and tune also if anyone bought this car for luxuries they’re a nuffy. bought mine for the rawness and just an enjoyable driving experience

@rockhard-ericilly1023 2 жыл бұрын

I agree … the 76 Landcruiser is overpriced compared to other modern day 4x4’s … it’s really a nostalgic thing … and having the V8. If you want a car that feels like a truck, can run for a million kms and doesn’t have creature comforts this is your vehicle. For me … I change cars every 7 - 10 years so the high kms and reliability after 10 years doesn’t matter to me, as I will have bought another vehicle by then. This vehicles requires another $60,000 in modifications to make it a beast … if you want to keep it for 20-30 years it may be worth it … otherwise get another 4x4.

@quagar6982 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2018 76 Workmate, it does have the newer seats and updated gearing. Its a tough truck, its not meant to be driven on a road all day, it tows anything with ease and when it reaches 800,000klms it will still be doing exactly the same. One of the reasons I liked it was that it doesn't have all the wank, no carpets, no electric windows, seat warmers etc however I do wish it had central locking. Look at the air con/heater, its basic, practicle and well made, it won't break and it's really you need. However, its a prick on sand as the rear end just wants to swap from onw rut to the other, its really hard work. So I have offset rims on mine now and I have eliminated the problem. Yes I know these are illegal but the car is now safer to drive on sand or in ruts.

@quagar6982 2 жыл бұрын

P.S. Is it worth it, absolutely 100%, why, because when all these 2.4L twin turbos etc have worn out or blown up, I'll still be trucking along towards a million.

@Sub-Kuch13.13 2 жыл бұрын

@roberthay7554 2 жыл бұрын

A few weeks’ ago I did a 7300km commencing in Melbourne and turning north at Cocklebiddy, WA to head up Connie Sue to Warburton the on to Docker River -Sandy Bight Junction - Alice Springs - Hay River Track - Birdsville - Melbourne. Our fuel consumption was less than some of the Prado in our group and more than others- I carried far to much fuel because I failed to take into account that the engine rarely got above 2000 revs. The car was a star in our group - reliable and tough

@georgeguansing5131 2 жыл бұрын

The resurrection of the LC76. We noticed that more than 100 units apart from the new Isuzu D-Max, American Jeep, Ford Rangers, Land Rovers, The Huge Toyota LCs and several other international brands totalling around 800 plus units participated in the recently held International Borneo 4x4 Jungle Safari. Kalimantan Rain Forest International Extreme 4x4 expedition and Sarawak International 4x4 Rain Forest Jungle Jamboree.

@travisstewart8369 2 жыл бұрын

The reason for not widening the front track is because Aus is one of the only markets where the V8TD is fitted, in SA the 6 is still used because of fuel contaminates, JPN and UAE have the 4.0V6 petrol. With these engines there is no change to front to rear track width. If your cheap, just use a neg offset rim 😂

@gbrdh 2 жыл бұрын

As an owner I would never pay 90k + for one. Totally overrated vehicle. Living remotely it is awesome. Such a great bush basher. For long drives on sealed roads though it absolutely sucks. Super uncomfy and revs at 2500rpm at 110. But it does have something special about it though. You do start to love them when you own one. Other cars just don't seem the same when you drive them.

@mattt9298 2 жыл бұрын

The cool factor of the 76 series is off the charts. Wish it was available in the States.

@4wdsupacentreAu 2 жыл бұрын

I can definitely see why you'd want them over there! They are a cool car and I love driving it, but I still can't get passed the price.. Cahn and I are always crying (literal tears) over the fact we don't get your Tacoma or 4Runners.. :( Cheers, Mitch

@interrogationwatch3781 2 жыл бұрын

Here in Spain it is not overpriced. A Wrangler is around +15K, Mercedes G: Dont even want mention the price, Defender is more expensive, Nissan Patrol is hard to get. But yeah, it is a car that you don’t need but want.

@gsmecanica 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine Nissan making a 4WD with it's rear axle shorter than the front... people would just scream at them. Everyone just forgives Toyota just because... don't you think? It obviously has an impact offroad.

@4wdsupacentreAu 2 жыл бұрын

... Nissan Y61 Patrol leaf-spring Ute has a bigger difference in track width between the back and front! Don't hear anyone screaming at them... only Toyota! But, I get your point... they both could've been avoided! Cheers, Cahn

@gsmecanica 2 жыл бұрын

@@4wdsupacentreAu Good info, didn't know that. Thanks mate!

@arnovanhuyssteen1197 2 жыл бұрын

The rear axle is narrower to improve driving stability. According to the Engineers in Japan. Read it in an article some time ago.

@TheBearMTB 2 жыл бұрын

Forgot to mention that for 20 years plus Toyota has used a handbrake that doesn't work haha

@4wdsupacentreAu 2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 I didn’t even know they had a handbrake!

@jasonmaher6941 2 жыл бұрын

It's still exactly the same dash in the 2019 onwards Hino 300's, except the Hino's get twist knobs for its air con controls, not swip knobs like this model or even the brand new 2021/2022 70's

@seekingaus5196 2 жыл бұрын

The torque figures aren’t the same, so I’m not sure why it’s common to compare the Triton and 1VD figures. Yes they both make 430nm, the 70 makes that’s at 1,200rpm opposed to 2,500rpm in the Triton. So obviously it’ll feel different.

@leridotte 2 жыл бұрын

Where did you shoot the video? Back of the blue mountains but where? Thanks

@alex49159 2 жыл бұрын

It’s beautiful. Maybe Barringtons?

@leridotte 2 жыл бұрын

@@alex49159 they say on the video. Blue mounts way

@cyclemoto8744 2 жыл бұрын

Why do people always compare engine torque and power between different engines without discussing where the optimum output occurs in the rev range. That's the difference between the toyo v8, usable torque is about 1000 to 2500 rpm. Compare that to a 4 cylinder highly strung engine and you'll find that the max power or torque is outside the desired rpm range for off roading.

@byronburns1 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2013 76 that I bought new I put the later gear box in mine when they first come out definitely more enjoyable to drive on the highway not as much drone and probably a litre per hundred better on fuel

@shutthegate8232 Жыл бұрын

6foot 8", instead of maybe a replacement front seat, can you remember the movie "Police Academy", and the character "Hightower" (or something like that), and they just pulled out the front seat of the car and sat in the back seat to drive :-)

@madcat4563 2 жыл бұрын

Ay the Aussies mentioned us! 😜😂 Fun fact you got the 76 with a 1HZ from 2007 to 2012 in South Africa. In Africa you still get the 1HZ in all the 70s. In SA the 1HZ is available as a option as all the 70s, except the 76 (only V8 since 2013). The troopy (after being absent from the market (2012-2015) was finally available again on special order (since 2021), 1HZ only. For the 79s we have a option of a V6 petrol (1GR-FE), inline 6 diesel (1HZ) & the V8 diesel (1VD-FTV). As they are listed they are ranked in price from less expensive to more expensive. We have a 2010 HZJ76 in our driveway. I never understood what people meant when they say the V8 is underpowered. Cough, 1HZ isn't exactly drowning in power. But I was shocked when my Dad drove one (V8) and he was very underwhelmed. Still would like to test drive one. Hopefully somone can find this interesting to read. Edit: From what I've seen we also missed out on the dual hump bonnet. But you do see a few tricket out 70s with the dual humo and I know of one place that imports them. We also got a very watered down crappy 70th anniversary special edition. Not the same as in Australia or the UAE.

@Suroyfamilia 2 жыл бұрын

Tough and reliable no doubt, however to me a 55k Fortuner makes more sense with the change buying a decent camper.

@kevingm8759 2 жыл бұрын

bought my 76 for 58 k with only 68 k on it don’t know where you’re buying a decent camper for $3,000??? 😂💁🏽‍♂️

@Suroyfamilia 2 жыл бұрын

@@kevingm8759 plenty around mate here in NQ especially on FB marketplace. Used campers are sadly worth bugger all now that everyone wants a hybrid camper. Sounds you got a good deal on your 76, i do like them but i just couldn’t justify spending that kind of $$$ on something Toyota has put no effort into the last few decades.

@roocrew86 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree Cool as cars no question Massively overpriced though

@4wdsupacentreAu 2 жыл бұрын

It seems to be the consensus! Very cool, but you pay for it! Cheers, Cahn

@fatmanoverlanding 2 жыл бұрын

The Triton might have the same torque figure as the LC70, but the Toyota provides the 430Nm from 1200 RPM, while the Mitsubishi needs another 1300 RPM (2500 RPM total) to start generating the same max torque. This suggests, the Toyota's engine is more relax at delivering maximum torque compared to the Mitsubishi. That's probably why Toyota engines have a reputation for durability & longevity compared to its rivals.

@HammerRocks 2 жыл бұрын

I agree. But at the price point they are at the moment, I'm sure a lot of it is the Toyota Tax. You definitely do not buy a 70 Series Landcruiser for value.

@felixtimlock 2 жыл бұрын

That's a fair point but as a comparison the new dmax makes 300nm from 1000rpm and 400nm from 1400rpm, costs less to service, about 30 to 40 percent less to fill is more comfortable and less much likely to leave you or your passengers disabled or dead after a severe accident for half the price, so unless you are a hardcore offroader (which most of us aren't) i just think it's not a rational purchase for the money

@HammerRocks 2 жыл бұрын

@@felixtimlock I get the safety aspect. I'd get the 200 series for the same money in the 2nd hand market. But the Dmax is a Ute. And if you say MU-X, both have IFS. Cahn obviously preferred solid front axle. And if the vehicle is bought for towing, which engine do you think will fair better? A 4 cylinder diesel or a V8 diesel?

@fatmanoverlanding 2 жыл бұрын

@@felixtimlock Totally agree that the 70 Series is not a rational or value purchase. Yet they are selling by the bucket loads and are holding their value well. I just hope when the Ineos Granadier is finally released, this will jolt Toyota into doing something. But then again, being specifically designed as a mine vehicle, not sure they will.

@felixtimlock 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe it will wake Toyota up, it took Hyundai having success with the iload and ford with the Ranger to push them to finally make the investment in R&D on a new hiace and hilux

@michaelnugara1 2 жыл бұрын

Love my 76 series. Awesome tourer and so bloody reliable. Solid axles and bush ready. Enough said. I have the updated 2017 and definitely love the new box. Thanks for excellent vid

@antristantalithaflesser1200 2 жыл бұрын

Hi guys love or hate the 70 series we all know they are very much build for durability they have out survived any other Brand or Make by 40 years great content......... have to say it's the first time I've seen photo's or vid of a 70 series without a sweat piece of trim laying over it in a bikini 😉😉👀👀

@flight2k5 2 жыл бұрын

I’m convinced you can’t make everyone happy. If this was a video about a 200 series, everyone would cry about how they miss the old school basic truck. They made a video about the 70s and everyone cries about how it’s too old fashioned. Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. Keep making this Toyota. I love the 70 series.

@drsynthpattern 2 жыл бұрын

Not overrated, just one of the best from the cruiser series. I personally love the Discontinued FJ Cruiser which was based on the prado J120 series platform.

@sz5830 2 жыл бұрын

Wish we could get the V8 Diesel here in Europe, would buy it in a heart beat, yes , i can buy an electronic 4x4, but i can go anywhere with the 76. I own a 70 and 73 already. The best the troop Carrier.

@grasrau4051 2 жыл бұрын

You can get a v8 with a euro 6 conversion. It is about 55/65k base model.

@sz5830 2 жыл бұрын

@@grasrau4051 Do yo have a contact number by chance ? thank you

@donniecothern9842 2 жыл бұрын

80's tech should be at 80's prices.

@Sub-Kuch13.13 2 жыл бұрын

Every counties taxes & customs are different. Hence the price.

@tonygersbach375 2 жыл бұрын

The most honest review I’ve ever seen👍

@bigpapaharis4588 2 жыл бұрын

another good video! keep it up!

@4wdsupacentreAu 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers mateo much appreciated! Cahn

@SerpyBen 2 жыл бұрын

Just throw Neg 25 offset on the front wheels and Pos 25 on the back for a test. (Only for the test) on the beach. That way you can use the same car, switch wheels and back onto the beach.

@17Viking 2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't that make the front track even wider and the rear track narrower?

@Brgnalf81 2 жыл бұрын

At 00:38 I stopped watching. I like straight answers with no BS. Cheers.

@4wdsupacentreAu 2 жыл бұрын

Hahahah excellent! Mitch thought it was important to get his answer out early! Cheers! Cahn

@MattH-l3i 2 жыл бұрын

Land cruisers in general are massively over rated... every time i see a 4x4 video about another land cruiser i instantly don't care.

@johnny-yi2oi 2 жыл бұрын

Lol. Okay mate. 🤦‍♂️

@bradhackett9103 2 жыл бұрын

New GXL 76 Series is $73k. What are other vehicles like Fortuners, Prado's, Pajero Sports, MUX's and Everests going for?

@christiaanjansevanvuuren7574 2 жыл бұрын

The tdv8 is purposely made to have a bit power with a big block simply for less stress... Means more reliable. It would maybe do a little better with a 6 speed though

@jaydengood6530 2 жыл бұрын

if i could afford one i would buy it like the basic interior less then the new stuff also if could buy a brand new ln106r i would know doubt !!

@4wdsupacentreAu 2 жыл бұрын

If I could afford one I’d buy one too! I agree, I do love the simplicity and basic layout. Then you can focus more on the actual wheeling and camping rather than the gadgets! I also wouldn’t mind a brand new 90s Hilux! Cheers Cahn