4x Mig-31 Foxhounds Vs F-15C Eagle | INTERCEPT | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ What do you guys think does the US need the super long range missiles or are they fine with the AMRAAM ?

[@MrFactualGamingOfficial]

Do a video, where you use both the Aim-54 Phoenix and Aim-152 (Raytheon/Hughes version) and give your opinion on which is better

[@thedishonoredamerican129]

Taking into consideration missiles like the Chinese PL-15 and the Meteor, the US needs long range missiles.

[@s3viking214]

I definitely think that the US should make a long range missile. If not that then at least buy some meteors but knowing the US. They would prefer to make their own.

[@Moistbread955]

Maybe make a video using AIM 120, 152, and 260

[@Ilyak1986]

Depends on if it wants to continue using 4th gen non-stealth jets. F-22s and F-35s can get close enough to sling AMRAAMs. F-15 EXs? Not so much. My question is what happens in something like an F-35 vs. J-20 fight in which both sides have stealth. Is it all going down to the merge?

[@russbarrow]

Seems like the biggest mistake by the MIG-31s was firing together. Seems like a 10 second delay between each fire would put up a storm of missles keeping the F15 defensive for longer or finding the F15 after believing that the missle threat had passed.

[@Drobbik]

Yeah that's kind of what I've been thinking because if the missile were to know from a further distance that the F-15 is cranking, then it would course correct early increasing the chance that the F-15 doesn't notch it.

[@oddy1637]

@Shubhabrata banerjee yes Those r Ms

[@ravirajsisodia6475]

Yahh.... Sending Missile at intervals would have kept F15 defensive entire time.

[@puneetkumarsingh1484]

Exactly my thought also. in facy shouls probably line up one behind another also. That way they won't be locked all at once. Who was flying the migs in the video though?

[@ravirajsisodia6475]

@@puneetkumarsingh1484 look like GS just wanted to make it easy for him😂

[@fubaralakbar6800]

The MiG-31 has always been a fascinating plane to me--so big and heavy, so single-minded, and so utterly incapable of dogfighting. It's basically a flying SAM site.

[@patrickreindel692]

Absolute Missle Trucks.

[@zx-3948]

That's a funny way of putting it. And I love it

[@ThunderChunky101]

Yes! Also pretty successful at that job.

[@georgevanhoose6333]

It does one thing, and it does it very, VERY well. Probably the deadliest BVR aircraft in the world.

[@ThunderChunky101]

@@georgevanhoose6333 Other than all the BVR fighters built since the 70's...

[@davecolwell725]

13:23 what a shot! Thank you for including shots like this. Absolutely beautiful! People say MS Flightsim has good graphics. This has got to be seriously close in situations like this! If only they could put things together and put their Geomapping system into DCS. Imagine that live weather and ground in DCS. Dang bro.

[@mariusbehr925]

damn those 4 migs firing at the same time was scary

[@fingers1971]

...and useless

[@manhngo4275]

@@fingers1971 in reality, they won't miss.

[@manhngo4275]

@@kermittoad Mig 31s are patrolling the Russia space frequently as I know. They use R37M a super long-range air-to-air missile to destroy enemy jets.

[@danihaldar7627]

@@fingers1971 mad fu** only in dcs.. In reality f 15 dast.. 😜😜

[@wasirahman5233]

Pretty useless lol. If they fired one after another they could do much better job.

[@Musavicch]

I really like the situational awareness you provide us in your content in the form of 3rd person camera angles and zoom-ins! Thank you!

[@spyous7884]

For once GS's optimism was not wasted

[@Hydra_6544]

Read this right after he said it and I expected instant death immediately following

[@fwijffels]

Would love to see some more missions, like breaking into territory, attacking targets etc

[@cloudforest4087]

I was thinking the same.

[@murderer5290]

These videos are top tier when it comes to DCS. Keep up the good work.

[@fervivere8600]

would love to see a combat f-14, f-15 and f-16 vs mig-29, mig-31 and su-27, but with late 80s technology.

[@pigeoncrazy6615]

Exactly, a mix of western and European fighters vs. Soviet and Chinese fighters , with human pilots would be much nicer .

[@brentgilliam1209]

Love the videos overall, but the tact view with in-depth explanations is what makes this channel so special. Thx GS for all the great content you keep producing!!

[@lonelyone69]

I still find it insane that engineers and designers can create massive poles that can propel themselves to 6 times the speed of sound. And be able to withstand almost 60G turns without ripping itself apart.

[@sadlerbw9]

It's crazy what aircraft (and these missiles really are tiny aircraft) can do when they don't have to worry about a squishy meat-sack inside of them getting pulped by g-forces.

[@waldek7772]

@@sadlerbw9 its also to do with the thrust to weight, if a fighter jet pulled anywhere near that hard it would bleed all its speed so quick

[@yawningkitty457]

I'd love to see a 1 vs 1 between the English Electric Lightning and the Mig 21.

[@longtimber]

Flying through those clouds so close to the mountain tops freaked my ass out. Lol

[@0188Charly]

the way these missiles manage to find their targets after a hundred miles without any uplink seems to good to be true ;)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Maybe they’re simulating the uplink

[@heatblast876]

@@bobjones-bt9bh R 37M is not model properly, Especially in DCS because doesn't show the proper performance of the missile of R 37M. While the AIM 152 is totally mystery.

[@brandonprice3566]

GS, As always really appreciate the videos. I have recently started playing DCS, and am starting to understand the time/effort that it would take to become as proficient as you are. Keep it up my bro.

[@Sevo-]

"Just gonna scare them" Proceeds to annihilate their team

[@rugger3buffalo]

It's 150 miles from Buffalo to Syracuse... That's an insane size battlefield.

[@baomao7243]

The BVR distances in this engagement are incredible. Wow.

[@IndyBobcat]

Excellent use of defensive BFM and terrain. Enjoyed the video, thanks!

[@austintaylor7363]

I would really like to see engagement like this with other players. Should coordinate with the boys and see if we can't get a 5v5 of pure insanity going. 👀👀

[@seanklassen1413]

That fly off into the sunset 👌

[@levidotson6610]

It’d be interesting to see sidewinder fly the foxhound and get to see the axehead from the other side

[@MattWaller04]

Same here man I’d love to see that

[@CHRnorton]

That's what we used to call "Four on the Floor." Real exciting, great job.

[@beatboxbuggi6884]

I’m thinking the MiG-31 was never even really meant to need to defend, it’s just supposed to outrange and outrun it’s opponents

[@garlicdragon8664]

Its an interceptor, meant to shoot down bombers and spy planes and patrol. Using it for a direct fight with an eagle is very suboptimal.

[@yuvl32]

It’s not the plane, it’s the missile )))

[@tomas7158]

Most of us wanted to see an upgraded Phoenix and we did. We see why the meteor was needed, or stealth. M31is still the king of bwr. Old but not obselite.

[@kcf881]

Always great videos. Well done!

[@whistlingbadger]

I'm reminded of the F-15 pilot in the original Red Dawn. "It was five to one. I got four."

[@anneudysheredia7540]

It would be nice to see a BVR with the AIM 152 vs the Felon SU 57.

[@DDayJayke]

Good to see you didn't get demolished this time

[@42grath]

When I saw the title for this vid it gave me flashbacks to that one BVR fight you were doing against the MIG-31 and kept getting smoked 😂

[@billisaacs702]

Glad you finally got a missile to help against the MiG 31 Dingbat. "Ohhh Aaaaarchie...."

[@CNCTEMATIC]

Yes! Finally those Mig-31s get their comeuppance! Interesting how the Mig-31s can lock you up for a 175nm launch; your radar didn't seem to see them at those ranges.

[@Cleanasdirt2182]

I enjoyed the tac view, it was explained well.

[@pedrosura]

Wow, I just realized that I worked in 1990 on probably the follow on missile to the Aim 152. We called it “AAAM” advanced air to air. St Louis MO, Mc Ds. We put the 6 ft model through the paces in the wind tunnel. Very similar to the picture on the PDF file.. BTW, the file inclided is for the F-14. The mod in this video… is it something else?

[@heathb4319]

Talk about turning those first to migs into lawn darts.... Beautiful.

[@viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476]

That’s crazy the impenetrable 4x mig 31s with their hypersonics that shut down soo many of GS attempts just got handled by a single f-15

[@jayvee8502]

A single F22 with just AIM-120s would have done it too.

[@viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476]

@@jayvee8502 I believe it and I kinda feel like he did that already, right??

[@satcom6]

If I'm, correct, the mig 31 (fox bat) was intended as a Soviet counter to the SR-71. While no missiles (officially) impacted the blackbird, they did a semi decent job of keeping U.S pilots on edge, and (in the event of a missle launch detection), between the mig 31 speed and ceiling combined with their armament, the SR-71 pilots would absolutely punch the throttle because their best advantage was to flat-out, out run the missiles (even at high altitudes with my w drag on high velocity missiles). Again I may be mistaken, but props to the Soviet engineers for putting something that could be called "threatening" together with regards to the blackbird. And doubly so for those pilots that could hammer down an SR-71, few of us will ever know that fear, or gaul.

[@TymaDem]

Now, imagine something like an F-23 with AIM 260!

[@slickninjadude9165]

Have you done a BVR fight bandit unknown video? I am also curious to see what its like on the other side of the aim 152?

[@nawtynick9]

The Tact View with your explanations are great.

[@timbaskett6299]

Kind of funny how the F-15 has come "full circle". It started out as "not a pound for air to ground, then improved that with the "Charlie", was modified into a strike fighter with the "Echo", and with the "Echo X-ray" is an air to air missile slinger again!! I'd be curious about a prospect of an export single seat "F-15G" model with the improvements from the eventual F-15F, which is what I'm sure the EX will be called.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

The current version is basically an updated version of the F6D Missileer concept.

[@Strigon008]

I was expecting him to go down, I was wrong. He finally beat the Foxhound suffering.

[@martinpalmer6203]

yep with an imaginary missile LOL

[@Strigon008]

@@martinpalmer6203 It was on the drawing board, just never saw production due to times changing. There was a test model in use though.

[@davidfecak9569]

Nice one, big shoots! Thank you.

[@gringogreen4719]

Great video but I really enjoyed the weather element to this video.

[@TheCar780]

Question, how do pilots or aircrews validate Kills in a BVR environment. Also I have read that the Meteor is capable of changing burn rate on the motor as well as direction.

[@Mike_Romeo]

They dont. Kill calidation is done afterwards by analysing data records and investigations of the wracks

[@coolermoves]

Great video. Dude. 😮

[@SkeetSystem]

I like that 45mi is the up close and personal engagement :]

[@johnhermann7498]

Biggest mistake the Navy made was chosing to upgrade the Plastic Bug instead of the Mighty Tomcat ... Second biggest mistake was ignoring long range BVR combat and cancelling the -152 project and leaving the Super Bug hamstrung with -120s....

[@air-headedaviator1805]

I hope one day we see player operated Mig-31s. That would be a different animal of play

[@spinningsquare1325]

The original mig-31 only carries an underwhelming R-33 fox 1 missile

[@ThatOneBozoAnimater]

Wake up babe, Growling Sidewinder uploaded the video you wanted.

[@takoslvt]

That missile sure knows where it isn't.

[@红杏出墙-c7g]

There is no way that one F-15 could shoot down 4x Mig-31 in one fight. The 4x Mig-31 just won't follow F-15's rhythm. They will not fly shoulder to shoulder, they will fly one after another with a probably 20 miles gap, then they will shoot one by one and keep the F-15 busy.

[@edwardsarty9572]

Can’t wait to see you in an f14D!

[@theelectricgamer9889]

Day 103 of asking for F-16 vs F-20/F-5 dogfight

[@jimmy_wang_]

Day 104 of asking not to do that 😆

[@theelectricgamer9889]

@@jimmy_wang_ Sorry, I don’t listen to trolls

[@jimmy_wang_]

Lmao..... lighten up it's just a joke plus it gives your comment more attention 🤠

[@bread3161]

I respect your dedication

[@stealthfinger]

I'd watch it

[@parrotlander]

Thoughts as a casual watcher- I'm disappointed that a radar lock, once lost even briefly, can't be quickly re-acquired and guidance resumed. Especially in fox-1 fights, it makes little sense that a brief gap in tracking wastes a missile. Second, I don't understand why with data links, a wingman or AWACS couldn't guide your missile in for you from a safe distance, allowing the lead to break off and go fully defensive.

[@GregThrasherTechGuy]

All that comm gear would increase the size and weight of the missle. Not to mention significantly increase the cost of something designed to blow up the first time it's used.

[@spinningsquare1325]

Fox 1 missiles can not get lock mid air because their guidance needs to be in synch with the platform radar unless the missile has datalink. With datalink a fox 1 missile can lock on after launch. R-27ER has that but its completely omited in dcs same as datalink for some reason

[@spinningsquare1325]

Awacs guiding missiles to the target is not a thing here because the airplane is an old F15C with no datalink aside from that between the eagle and its missiles

[@NavyCuda]

So when are we going to see you try to do bvr with aim 152s on the a10?!

[@mrbagel8751]

Day 2 of asking for GS to fly the f-4

[@keithbriscoe99]

Is TWS the best possible choice in this engagement? I guess I thought LRS (long range scan?) is more powerful? But maybe the goal is to avoid alerting the target at lock up.

[@sunils6321]

Hi, Do you have a video of BVR - DCS simulation of F22 vs F35 lighting II? If not can you please upload one? its interesting as both are 5th gen fighters from US and both are stealth, interested in : At what point F35 will detect F22, will AWACS make any difference to F35 capability? Will it be like F22 sneakup behind F35 and come in formation then F35 will be shocked? Will F22 face any difficulty in locating and engaging F35 etc.,

[@supersonic6222]

You should do a video with the AIM 260 or the AIM 120 D

[@nigelsmith7366]

Would the upgraded electronics and radar of the F15ex make for even better results and able to carry more missiles?

[@ciprianvalentincipherctv9742]

Yes

[@deltaforceshuttles3749]

Role reversal with GS in 1 mig 31 foxbat versus 4 f 15s lol I would like to see that

[@hamid.s.zolfagari]

Thanks for the amazing video. Is it possible to shoot harm anti radar missile to bandit aircraft while he's jamming on our radar?

[@crookedwookie8782]

Like to see the F-22 against a flight of these.

[@Hydra_6544]

MiGs or Eagles

[@MississippiKid96]

👍🏼👆🏼👌🏼🙏🏼 me too.

[@BrianTRice77]

At the range that matters, you’d never get a return from the F-22, though.

[@doodooswirl]

F-15 w AIM-152 vs F-22 w AIM 260

[@crookedwookie8782]

@@BrianTRice77 return meaning radar return?

[@ibd1977]

Fangs on an Eagle. Where have I heard this before 😋

[@dannyreeves4782]

I’ve always wondered something about the seat in the F-15, behind the pilots head on both sides are two parts that stick out like wings with cylinders on them. What the hell are they for? I know that everything on these planes have a purpose, so what do these do?

[@brianmathison2432]

They are sensors for the ejection seat so when you eject the seat can determine when to separate from the pilot and so on.

[@dannyreeves4782]

@@brianmathison2432 Thanks for taking your time to reply, I honestly couldn’t figure out what those were for.

[@brianmathison2432]

You’re welcome. I was a crew chief on F-15s. They get covered up when the plane is parked on the ground so nothing gets into them.

[@krismurphy7711]

Great tac view explanations.

[@alexpaul1665]

Good fight!! Cool missile, shame, no further development for those missiles. Try the all new aim-260 next time.

[@johnhayden6417]

Great Video and good work. Def "Fangs".

[@Gunthrek]

Is this the default F-15C? My version doesn't have any voice cues from the computer.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I turned on “radio assists” in the settings. I thought people watching might like it more.

[@Gunthrek]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Ah, I wasn't aware of that! Thanks!

[@car9011]

We need more A-10 content!

[@SuperAirplanemaster]

This new 260 BVR is using some of technology from AIM 152

[@harrisongilbert]

Would be interesting to see a video of an F-15 equipped with the upcoming AIM-260.

[@vortex6818]

We dont even have a confirmed image of the JATM despite it's IOC expected to be 2022. And no, artist's rendering doesnt count as a confirmed image of what it looks like

[@harrisongilbert]

@@vortex6818 It would be just as inaccurate from reality as scraping together information for the AIM-152. Have some fun with it, speculate.

[@toastrecon]

Can you imagine what that would sound like on the ground? Sonic booms from the aircraft and all of the missiles.

[@mihalybalint8969]

viewer: so... how many missiles are you carrying? F-15: yes

[@victorscolari7519]

We would like to see more missions against air defences or like the fights against Iran like you did some weeks ago over Dubai

[@operands]

Awesome video 👍

[@ernest_oto495]

JAS 39 vs the f8 will be a good fight

[@boejiden7093]

Gotta hand it to the soviet engineers for designing such dangerous weapons and aircrafts. Really some smart guys.

[@adamketterl]

Love the videos! Literally all of them. Thanks for the great content! I was wondering, why not go high to bleed the missiles energy? Wouldn't that make you a more difficult target since it can't drop down on you?

[@Greasy__Bear]

Apparently the air resistance creates more drag than gravity at the speeds those missiles travel at.

[@sogerc1]

Not as spectacular as dogfights but I love these too. Please do a similar video with an F-35 and with an F-22 too.

[@MississippiKid96]

I’ve been wanting to see the f-22 vs a mig 31 thing for a few months now. Every since he posted the first upload having to do with tbe foxhound

[@Ilovemyidi]

For the longest time I thought raytheon made computer parts for gaming 😂

[@kapaskapas523]

Could we also have a bvr fight from the mig-31 side?

[@luongduc9119]

I don’t think he will

[@notHere8801]

Do more tacview please!! i love understanding strategy

[@zahnatom]

and here you can see the difference between high max range and high effective range

[@myslikstepan]

At last!!!! Perfect!🎉

[@playtime5234]

What happened to the 2nd lot of four you shot¿

[@tqkudzal]

To lock multiple targets with the F15C do you just lock each one and thats it?

[@ingoos]

Climb & crank climb climb climb chaff flare... ? Any difference vs. dive & crank?

[@cloudforest4087]

Can you show us how air dominance is established? Like the importance of owning the skies with superior pilots and aircraft. How would an actual mission play out (both modern or retro). There is just a fascination with fighter jets that makes it interesting.

[@sakari9494]

Good job Raytheon.

[@invertedaircraft8063]

Are the r37 fox 3. The migs don't turn cold very often

[@calebleger]

How do you get the system to speak to you? I've never heard a missile warning spoken to me, or an audible "shoot" call

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

It’s a setting in the main settings “radio assists” I think

[@rickmaldoo4205]

Since it's a falcon then its "giving it back its claws" is a more apt description

[@Pewerxevil]

Hi @Growling Sidewinder I've googled and searched a lot of topics relating to air to air combat... however I became curious about the rwr detecting that a missile was locked on to the aircraft I've watched your videos and noticed that your rwr gives the increased "beeps" when another aircraft is locking onto yours But when a missile is detected, the rwr gives the "whoop whoop" sound. Why and how does this happen? It would seem to me that it would be beneficial for the target to have no warning that a missile is on the way.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Hi you hear the whoop whoop sound when the bandit is using a STT (single target track) or RWS mode (range while search) or when the missile that was fired in TWS (track while scan) goes pitbull.

[@ndfgaming6824]

Have you done a f22 v su57 bvr fight, I know the f22 will wipe the floor with the su57 but in still curious

[@pilotbowser9980]

Use the AIM-152 with the F 22 raptor

[@MississippiKid96]

Why? The eagle already handles em… Wouldn’t it be more interesting to see the raptor use it’s standard fox 3’s ? The result would show whether or not the stealth of the raptor compensates enough to allow the raptor in close enough to kill the foxhound with its standard fox 3’s. Anyone who watched todays video and a little common sense can use deductive reasoning to assume that if a f15 can bag 4 foxhounds with the aim 152, The raptor having stealth, and the same missiles, would make even easier work of the foxhound..

[@MississippiKid96]

Anyone with a brain already knows the outcome…

[@smithyMcjoe]

Hypersonics I believe are mach 5 and above rather than 6 as the phoenix is considered a hypersonic.