5.56 NATO vs .223 vs .223 Wylde Barrel

[@elitecombatfitnesscentral6170]

This is a very good explanation of the barrels... very comprehensive and job well done.

[@G2niverse]

Thanks

[@charlesludwig9173]

The Wylde chamber today only has meaning to US Service Rifle Competitors, shooting VLD Bullets at 600 and 1000 yard slow fire, single load stages. The Wylde chamber supports bullet seating to the lands for best accuracy without problems of under or over purchase of case neck that will exist shooting a VLD bullet from .223 or 5.56 chamber.

[@iLLBiLLsRoastBeats]

I am just wrapping up my first AR build. I couldn’t find the 5.56 barrel I wanted but found an aero precision 223 wylde barrel in stock that I decided to go with. Didn’t know squat about .223 wylde but I’m lad I went with it. Seems to be more versatile and accurate with both rounds

[@G2niverse]

iLLBiLLsRoastBeats nice!

[@marcocruz7835]

FINALLY........... Someone explained and made sense at the end!!!!! THank you MUCH

[@bradb.4570]

That is the best description I have ever heard 👍🏻

[@G2niverse]

Thanks man

[@beargillium2369]

The .223(inches) wasn't designed for civilian use, it was designed by Eugene stoner when he invented the ar-15 which became the m16. The 5.56(millimeter) nato(north American trade organization) is the NATO (rest of the world uses metric system) version of .223(inches) and is loaded to slightly higher pressure. The saami spec for .223 cannot be changed, therefore a new designation of 5.56 NATO was used for the higher (slightly more modern) pressure version.

[@messagesystem333]

North American Trade Organization (NATO)? I hope that's just sarcasm.

[@williammoore6952]

Great video!!! My F1 firearms king FDR came in 223 Wylde. This is my First ar 15 so I wasn't real sure what the WYLDE meant. I never heard of it. I appreciate you explaining what it meant!!! Thx William

[@mauricegoodwin8922]

Thanks for the information I was throwing around build ideas and now I know where I stand.

[@G2niverse]

Right on

[@deanpollmann1579]

Awsome. For 3 months I've been trying to understand the difference. Now I do. Thank you brother. ✝️🇺🇸

[@G2niverse]

Welcome!

[@manny8282]

Perfectly explained! Thank you!

[@G2niverse]

Thanks Manuel Moldovan for being a subscriber...love hearing from you guys!

[@bullflstf]

Thanks for that simply comparison. I’m sold on the wild now.

[@G2niverse]

Have fun!

[@tyealexander5509]

Thank you very much on touching on this subject! You just helped make up my mind on weather or not I’m buy a Christensen Arms AR. They run a 223 Wylde barrel! Very helpful

[@G2niverse]

Hows it working out

[@tyealexander5509]

@@G2niverse Luv my Christensen Arms, it’s a Ferrari right out of the box!

[@JayDubb3BCT]

I have a rosco 12.5" 5.56. And. Ballistic Advantage 12.5" 223 Wylde. I put better groupings with my 556 to be honest. Wylde is a great barrel, but I prefer the 556. Great information in the video Sir!

[@G2niverse]

Whatever you shoot best...is the best!

[@JayDubb3BCT]

@@G2niverse agreed. I guess you take the Man out of the airborne, but can't the airborne out of the Man. 🤷🏼‍♂️🤣🍻🇺🇲

[@bdapyro8399]

Just got my AR today and it's chambered in .223 wylde. Kinda threw me off a little bit but you explained it perfectly for me

[@G2niverse]

Thanks Bdapyro83 for being a subscriber...love hearing from you guys!

[@BUFFBMORE]

Same lol

[@raoulduke5673]

Sorry G2niverse, you’re completely wrong about the 5.56 & .223 rounds having no physical difference, except the pressures of each. The 5.56 NATO round has a .125″ longer throat than the .223 Rem does. The reason you shouldn’t shoot a 5.56 in a .223 barrel is because of the longer throat. It creates pressure that the .223 Rem barrel can’t handle continuously.

[@sigo2007]

Ok but he was really talking about 223 wylde, not the rem.

[@doomkun]

Amazing explanation! Thanks!

[@G2niverse]

You're welcome! doomkun

[@JM7284]

The solution? Build an AR-10 and not worry about all this. Oh...the .308 vs 7.62 discussion now. Lol. Is there a .308 wylde lol

[@Mei-ChiShih]

What an excellent video, thank you very much.

[@royyates1558]

Thank you for the video.very good presentation!I just bought a a Christensen arms in .223 Wilde

[@G2niverse]

Right on

[@Trains-With-Shane]

I really appreciate the diagram. I knew that the Wyld chamber was slightly different but wasn't sure exactly how.

[@CPhan1013]

Saving this video to explain to people say that it's ok so use 5.56 round in a .223 rem barrel.

[@G2niverse]

CPhan1013 lol its not ok! 5.56 in .223 WYLDE only if you use a 5.56 in a .223 rem, you can blow the chamber.

[@BullseyeBenR]

The 223 can’t handle 5.56 pressure! 223 Wylde is the best of both worlds! 223wylde is basically a 5.56 with the accuracy of a 223

[@Pashtet1991]

HERE WE GO!!! The great debate jut got greater!!!

[@G2niverse]

Lol the one thing I won't touch...9mm vs 40cal vs 45acp

[@Pashtet1991]

@@G2niverse I posted that before the video actually started. Good vid. thumbs up and the bell.

[@G2niverse]

Thanks brother!

[@brookannewhitney7892]

@@G2niverse Now we want to see a 9mm, .40 and 45acp vid. Hahaha

[@georgeaura]

So if I have a 556 ar or 223 ar do I just need to change the barrel to 223 wylde or is there more I need to change on the ar when going to a 223 wylde barrel?

[@steved2927]

Thanks

[@G2niverse]

Welcome Steve D

[@pollock56th]

Great explanation for a simpleton like me to understand. I just purchased a 16 inch upper with a 223 wylde barrel. The barrel is fluted what are the advantages and dis advantages using a fluted barrel.

[@G2niverse]

Youre welcome...fluting basically lightens the barrel. So simply put, weight.

[@georgeaura]

So on the drawings would then the 556 be more accurate than 223?

[@MikeNaples]

Great explanation! So what is the difference in accuracy shooting .223 ammo out of a 5.56 barrel vs a .223 Wylde barrel? Will your average shooter be able to notice an improvement if switching to the .223 Wylde? I don't know the answer but tend to doubt it.

[@G2niverse]

Thanks mike naples for being a subscriber...love hearing from you guys! Its hardly noticeable, except at long distance (+300 yards)

[@Catgat37]

No. The average shooter will not see much noticeable difference.

[@johnyoos981]

A wilderness chamber will shoot 223 more accurately then a 556 chamber will ..the wylde chamber will still shoot very accurately with556 ..it allows you better accuracy with both rounds and not be exceeding the chamber pressure

[@LKaramazov]

@@johnyoos981 yeah, but is the improvement of the 223 round from a wylde chamber NOTICEABLE to the average shooter. I need stats on how much better.

[@alecubudulecu]

@@LKaramazov I’ve done chronographing of the rounds in 556 barrels and .223 wylde barrels. The .223 wylde barrel results In more consistent powder usage in both calibers. Noticeable if you bench rest at 300 yards. Good ammo will get you to under 20SD. Which can keep you at about 1.5 MOA ish. In a 556 barrel you get loose unoptimized powder explosions and results in wide SD. Moa of like 3moa from same ammo. Offhand? If you shooting in an SBR under 50 yards. Get a 556 barrel and shoot .223 rem ammo. It’s actually cheaper. Longer precise shots. Get .223 wylde barrel and shoot .223 ammo (as of November 2022)

[@headshotsongs9465]

You could expand this even further. Take it to the .308 level. Many standard .308's have only stock barrels. What is a good heavy swap out barrel for that rd? I like Windham Weaponry, but they don't offer a heavy .308 barrel.

[@G2niverse]

Thanks HeadShotSongs for being a subscriber...love hearing from you guys!

[@johnyoos981]

It's about the throat

[@G2niverse]

John Yoos always

[@joseoyervidez311]

Thank you amigo I have both of them❤❤ AR 15;NATO and 223 Wilder I have the Dad and the baby 😂😂

[@011CJ]

For something so basic and simple it amazes me how people just don't get it. If u check tolerances in 223 and 556 brass it all specs out for loading 556 I have been reloading to 556 spec and I will load in both 223 and 556 brass never had a problem the free bore is 25 thousands bigger then 223 the 223. and 556 reloading ries are the same. So do I reload the infamous 223 wild jk🤣👍

[@greg1440]

It's never good when her throat fails lol

[@G2niverse]

Well.... depends in what caused it to fail...lol

[@brockbaker9500]

Could you fire a 223 remington out of the 223 wylde barrel

[@G2niverse]

Yes .223 Remington and 5.56 NATO

[@getfragged7051]

Did you even watch the video?

[@I_am_archie]

@@getfragged7051 lol 😆

[@braydenl1]

Agreed

[@G2niverse]

Thanks CLowe’s Fast Lane for being a subscriber...love hearing from you guys!

[@physchir]

With the optimization of the Wylde, does that result in increased jams or failures with the 5.56? Is it true (heard it from a friend of a friend of a friend on another youtube vid) that the 5.56 barrels were redesigned with the wider tolerances due to increased jamming. Maybe it was due to the powder also, but I had to ask. Cheers

[@Physics072]

if you are going to war stay with 5.56 its less fussy feeding with a dirty chamber. For most people I would go with tighter wylde because they are shooting off a bench not sleeping in a desert with a dirty chamber.

[@alecubudulecu]

Yes the 556 is wider. That’s also why the 223 caliber in a 223 barrel actually performs ballistically about the same. A 556 barrel chambering wastes a lot of the explosion.

[@morgan79347]

I just received my first lower need to do a few mods but when it’s done there will be an 18” Wilde setting on top. Still looking at should it be Crome lined a stainless steel barrel or is there something else I should consider. $$$ matter.

[@1308SPAZZ]

I just read stainless is more accurate but only good for around 6k rounds and a 4150 cmv will give around 12k rounds but stainless dissipates heat better and are more accurate.

[@subontv5357]

I wish I had a barrel. I live in Vietnam

[@G2niverse]

Su Bon yeah, thats not good.

[@jerseyltd]

Anh come to america!

[@Warhammer77]

Hell yes that what i run..

[@antondefense3325]

1971 US army A1 M16 no 5.56. we fired 55gn fmj

[@William-the-Guy]

Which lasts longer? The 5.56 build or the 223 Wylde build? Is one more durable than the other?

[@alecubudulecu]

Depends what shooting. Pound for pound identical profile and cost and materials ….. the 556 MIIGHT last slightly longer. But we talking marginal splitting hairs here. You won’t notice it. 556 barrels avg lifespan is 20k rounds. .223 wylde is around 19k rounds. (This is where competition shooters aim to replace barrel ) If SBR. Might as well get 556 as it’s cheaper and can get pencil barrel. If shooting for accuracy - longer barrel. Get a .223 barrel and get better accuracy at longer ranges. Do note that .223 ammo for past 18 months has been systemically cheaper than 556

[@jonnychavez1879]

@@alecubudulecuI was told that my 223Wylde barrel would run 25k rounds before the slightest accuracy change.

[@charlesludwig9173]

@@jonnychavez1879a cut rifled barrel will loose accuracy in the 3000 round arena. This is proven by the USAMU shooting in US Service Rifle Competition. Usually, deteriorating results are first seen at the 600 yard line where the shooter will loose X-Ring performance.

[@jerseyltd]

Im trying to understand all this.. i want a rifle that is reliable and tough..if .556 can handle .223 why get a wylde?

[@lordravenblade]

From what I’ve seen elsewhere the Wylde tightens some tolerances that were sacrificed in the 5.56 to accommodate the higher chamber pressure vs the .223. Apparently a 223 will be more accurate at range than a 5.56 because of this, and the Wylde compensates for that so you get 223 accuracy out of a 5.56 cartridge

[@patrickhutchings6926]

Accuracy

[@LilQSlice]

I have an 18inch .223 Wylde barrel on one of my rifles. It pops primers and jams with 5.56, multiple makes. I've only been able to run .223.

[@LKaramazov]

@@lordravenblade no, you get 223 barrel accuracy out of 223 round in a barell than can safely shoot 5.56. Or, at least that’s MY understanding.

[@alecubudulecu]

Depends on use. The short answer for your question - all else equal - you will get better accuracy out of .223 wylde - when shooting 223. 556 marginally better. But they are more expensive and often heavier. Long lasting - for same price - 556 barrel. If you shoot JUST 556 then get 556. If short barrel. Might as well get 556. You can get a nice pencil barrel lightweight. POA shift from heat won’t matter much up to 100 yards in an SBR. If want precision. Get .223 wylde Also do note. Despite what people assume - .223 is often slightly cheaper than 556 most places. And definitely online.

[@Est1995real]

End of the world 556 nato is better you can use both 💪🏻💯

[@G2niverse]

I mean really its 7.62. Every country that would try to invade the us runs 7.62

[@sigo2007]

7.62x?

[@johnmirbach2338]

😎✌👌🖖👍🤓

[@johnpower8356]

Have fired 400× rounds of .556 out of my benelli .223 win. a non issue at least so far, probably a faster bullet

[@AmericanNationalist852]

Yeah that's retarded, just switch to a 556 or 223 wylde barrel

[@mayberrysranch5156]

Faster round means more pressure. You’re rolling dice

[@brian770]

so... why did we NEED the 223 wylde, why not just make all barrels .556 which can handle both the 556 and 223...why muddy the water with the wylde which also handles 223 and 556? sounds like a solution to a problem that never existed?

[@G2niverse]

Honestly we really didn't need it. It applies more to precision shooting rifles where you're not using 223/556 interchangeably

[@TheRetiredVeteran]

The .223 fits better in a .223 Wylde barrel so it is more accurate.