5.56 vs 7.62- Best DMR caliber?

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Mountains, Mullets, Merica!

Mountains, Mullets, Merica!

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@meangreen816
@meangreen816 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see this revisited with an 18” 5.56 upper, great video.
@modernmusket2745
@modernmusket2745 Жыл бұрын
DD V7 Pro!!!
@Nothanksbuddy
@Nothanksbuddy Жыл бұрын
it will only be better. the whole point of allot of this guy's videos are to prove that fudd lore is just plain wrong. people claim 556 cant do this or that and you need a 308 for this or that and you cant shoot past a mile unless you have x caliber with y scope and z eye pro with w magazines. the 14.5 goes to show that an sbr can do the job, so an 18 is kinda redundant and obviously will perform better.
@SixOFord
@SixOFord Жыл бұрын
Bring on the mk12 mod0 !
@Nothanksbuddy
@Nothanksbuddy Жыл бұрын
@@paulbarclay4114 re-read my comment. If you still don’t get it; my point is that showing an 18” upper would be redundant in the video. Because it would have better results than the 14.5”. Do you understand? The 14.5 already shows the capability of 556 at that range. The 18 would only perform better. Anyone could figure that out by being sentient. There is no other way to word this to make you understand, if you still don’t get it; there is nothing anyone can do for you
@insidefirearms3264
@insidefirearms3264 Жыл бұрын
Better yet, 18" in .223 wylde would really show what the 77gr can do. Depending on if you want to switch things up with some "on the bench" footage, you could do a weight comparison. Just some thoughts, I really enjoy this channel hope you do well.
@prestonwalsh4293
@prestonwalsh4293 Жыл бұрын
I chose 308 simply due to kinetic energy on target. Both are great calibers and have their uses.
@BadazzShovelhead
@BadazzShovelhead Жыл бұрын
Same here the 5.56 is great I have great success with it but for energy on target I want a bit more ass behind it. I have switched to my HK MR762 with ATACR 1-8x24 as my primary “battle rifle” with my SCAR 20s in 6.5 cm or my Armalite Super SASS in 308 both with their own ATACR 7-35x56 as my mid range and my MRAD in 300 Norma as my long range with its 7-35x56. Those are what I train with- I do enjoy my LWRC SBRs and use one for home defense and one for my truck gun.
@kevinkiernan7362
@kevinkiernan7362 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a gelatin block shot at 800 or 1000 yards to see how well they expand.
@ulrikerudel6859
@ulrikerudel6859 10 ай бұрын
we all want that, but nobody actually does it.
@jeffro2430
@jeffro2430 10 ай бұрын
There are a few out there look around @@ulrikerudel6859
@Merk21
@Merk21 5 ай бұрын
​@@ulrikerudel6859Be the change you want to see 😉
@boygonewhoopdataZZ
@boygonewhoopdataZZ 3 ай бұрын
just the impacts alone tells us that the .308 can do 2000m just to have the same impact of a 5.56
@tomi6261
@tomi6261 Жыл бұрын
You are an excellent marksman. I truly enjoy the real world lessons from your content!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel!
@wolfbear572
@wolfbear572 Жыл бұрын
@@MountainsMulletsMericaI said if I were to start a KZbin channel I would do it in this format.. you beat me to it lol please keep it up great stuff ✌🏿🇺🇸
@PhuVet
@PhuVet Жыл бұрын
I did 2 Tours in Afghanistan as a Squad Designated Marksman and 1 somewhere else. I got home from Afghanistan the 2nd tour and built a 6.5 Grendel 18in setup. Its ideal and works like a 308 but has the weight of a 5.56. I carried an m14 in my first Afghanistan tour, an sr25 in my 2nd and my other tour i had an 18in 5.56 and 77gr smk. The 5.56 took multiple rounds to stop a threat, and several were able to walk away. Under 200m, it was all the same. The point is that you shouldn't tie your hands as a civilian. Id really like a 243 but the ar10 platform is too heavy. From our class the 168gr was what they were trying to mimic with the 77gr bullet. That is why it wasnt 75gr or 80gr. The 77gr was almost identical so most dope matched up from the 168 that was current when the Navy ordered the mk262. The Army followed suit because the dope matched. The 175 came later with the M118LR change. From what i hear the 175gr is being walked back as supplies come down to prewar levels. Most units are still stocking 168 for their sdm.
@RicardoFinnigan
@RicardoFinnigan 3 ай бұрын
“1 Somewhere Else”-Nice, thank you for your service
@FRANZ3311
@FRANZ3311 Жыл бұрын
This is why most shooters own both. Hard to decide so get one of each. Great video content as usual!
@m118lr
@m118lr Жыл бұрын
..yep, THIS.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Yep both certainly have their place. the obvious answer here is to own both haha. Thanks for watching!
@trackpackgt877
@trackpackgt877 9 ай бұрын
lol same here bro!
@perskeisari
@perskeisari Жыл бұрын
This is a gem of a channel. Really like the showcased skills, information and presentation. Great stuff! I will continue to recommending this channel.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad to hear you’re enjoying the content and appreciate the support! Lots of fresh content in the works so hope you’ll stay tuned.
@lifefromscratch2818
@lifefromscratch2818 Жыл бұрын
Excellent content. I'd love to see this format of comparison with more modern rounds like 6arc and 6.5cm. I'd also love to see a 16" large frame AR compared with an 18" 556, point being, the overall package size is more similar.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Love the content ideas! Perfectly inline with what I hope to cover in future content. Really hoping to get a 308 vs 6.5cm video out in the near future. Then down the road I really want to snag a 6arc to use for content as this cartridge is getting a ton of attention right now. Seems like folks really enjoy these side by side compares so I plan to keep pumping them out!
@Chris-uo3rj
@Chris-uo3rj Жыл бұрын
Your entire channel is amazing. You're a great shot, knowledgeable. Good work.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Really appreciate the compliment and the support! Lots of new content coming so hope you’ll stay tuned.
@kylesherrer7188
@kylesherrer7188 4 ай бұрын
Outstanding video, I really appreciate the information. I had no idea how far 77 grain 5.56/.223 was accurate out to. I will definitely get more in the future. I would also be interested in a video covering the long range accuracy limits of m193 and m80 ball for affordable ammo to stockpile that is good for ranges grater than 500 yards. Once again thank you for making this informative content. V/R.
@MrKeith57
@MrKeith57 Жыл бұрын
Besides the fact that the 7.62 your shooting is a total bad ass. Simply, it hits harder. The 830 yard performance of the 5.56 was surprising.
@navyman8903
@navyman8903 Жыл бұрын
Definitely picking my HK MR762, the 175 SMKs or TMKs really do get it done. It was interesting to see the overlap until you got out to 835. Impressive shooting as always, you have me curious about what my HK MR556 with the 77gr TMK's will get out to now......I have to wait till the ammo comes back in-stock before I burn unobtanium ammo trying to get on your level. With half the magnification on my MR556 to boot (1-8 Accupower Mil reticle)
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Oh man, your MR556 would easily get to 800 with the TMK and I’d bet you’d have decent success out to 1000 or so. Might need a bit more magnification to spot your shots though. Funny you mention the MR762…. Stay tuned and you’ll be seeing one show up on the channel! Planning to run one against some SR-25s!
@ImNoBSING
@ImNoBSING Жыл бұрын
Yeh.. Been to 1km few times with 16" MR223 and many times to shorter distances. Out to 800m pretty good hit ratio. Beyond 700 wind is easily very tricky, at 900-1000 very difficult. Original barrel just burned out at 12-14K of ammo. Waiting for LW barrel to arrive.. Super fun.
@zlink8
@zlink8 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Very cool to see how similarly these perform. I think an 308 vs 6.5 creedmore comparison would be interesting to see if the difference is really as big as the hype would make you believe
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Oh buddy stay tuned! This is happening just as soon as I can get it filmed. Seems like folks really enjoy the side by side comparisons so I’m going to keep pumping them out.
@Omatty12
@Omatty12 Жыл бұрын
I'm so happy you're a .308 fan! Also, great content! And I appreciate your guest appearance on the 1000yd challenge
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
I am a huge 308 fan! 308 gets a lot of hate nowadays as it’s a bit dated and not as capable as the newer high speed caliber options but still a great performer and in my opinion a great trainer caliber. If you stick around my channel long you’ll see 308 show up in plenty of videos!
@mattthompson83
@mattthompson83 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I'm glad you mentioned the importance of terminal ballistics and the differences between the two calibers. To often we forget this when practicing on paper targets.
@grantyoung3076
@grantyoung3076 Жыл бұрын
You my friend are an excellent marksman, superb teacher, very smart, and a pleasure to watch...and that can not be said about most KZbin shooting channels. Keep up the good work!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Really appreciate the compliments and the support! Lots of fresh content in the works so hope you'll stay tuned.
@stevenlewis6781
@stevenlewis6781 Жыл бұрын
Nobody’s probably going to read this, but this is the best video on this topic, hands down. This channel never fails to impress. I’ve got a POF Revolution DI that can group right around an inch at a hundred yards. It’s stupid easy to hit targets out to 1k yards with it. That’s with Norma Tactical. It does a little better with match ammo. Please do a review of this rifle.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
I read all of the comments! Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel! I don't have a POF at the moment but I can add it to the list of rifles to review down the road. Hope you'll stay tuned as I've got lots more content just like this in the works also don't forget to share the channel with your buddies!
@nowherespecial6780
@nowherespecial6780 Жыл бұрын
I would really like to see the same test with a mark 12. I think the eighteen inch would put a little bit more steam on it
@ulrikerudel6859
@ulrikerudel6859 10 ай бұрын
You have the life I dream about! Beautiful landscape, time, equipment and space to shoot and figure out those balistic questions I ask myself. THANK you for sharing
@JKGuitarPro
@JKGuitarPro Жыл бұрын
Cool to see the tripod busted out! Last week I had my 223 DMR gun out with the tripod standing hitting consistent head shots on 2/3 ipsc at 590m. Was a fun day 🤠
@sidehustlers336
@sidehustlers336 7 күн бұрын
The best kind of person to kearn from. Very calm. Very clear and vicalizes thr adjustments.
@RichardSpoof
@RichardSpoof Жыл бұрын
Very helpful and informative. I would like to see a similar comparison using the 6.5 Grendel. Grow that channel grow!
@scotthunt9055
@scotthunt9055 Жыл бұрын
I agree. 5.56 & 6.5gr using the same lower would be interesting.
@dtheguy
@dtheguy Жыл бұрын
6:23 what a nice clean transition. Well done
@Schultz344
@Schultz344 Жыл бұрын
Video idea. Accuracy expectations of 5.56 with match and duty barrels. Using a variety of bullet weights and twist rates. Love the content man.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Love it! 100% Something I can work into a future video. I've already been thinking I need to create a video around 556 barrel length and down range performance, maybe could work your idea into this. Only thing is it'll take me a bit to acquire the different barrels needed to pull everything off. Appreciate the support and hope you'll stay tuned!
@OnMyGrizzle
@OnMyGrizzle 3 ай бұрын
Great content, thanks for the video
@ng0331
@ng0331 Жыл бұрын
I found the Hornady ELDs perform slightly better than the 175 smk’s despite being a 168 gr bullet. The higher BC makes a noticeable difference. Also I’m curious how much better that 5.56 would have performed with an 18”. Awesome videos bro
@darrelldowns7437
@darrelldowns7437 Жыл бұрын
Great video I went 16 inch 308 personally, legal for hunting also was a big factor for me.
@SylentONE
@SylentONE Жыл бұрын
Yep same
@firstimeshooter6590
@firstimeshooter6590 Жыл бұрын
👏 Crazy to see how similar the drops are. In your last video you included the 35 yard zero similar to the 556 36 yard zero. Just zeroes my 308 irons to 35 yards. Need to learn how to use mils before I get my scope.
@ASVABWAIVER11B
@ASVABWAIVER11B Жыл бұрын
Man, MK262 and M118 LR with DMR’s is right up my ALLY! And once again I can’t illustrate with words how beautiful your range is. Definitely the best range on KZbin!
@SgtDvldawg
@SgtDvldawg Жыл бұрын
I Totally agree with other commenters as well. Now that you have the 6mmARC. I'd like to see this repeated with the 6mmARC compared to them both. My DMR rigs are 6ARC and 6.5 Grendel. I like the fact of having them in a lighter platform and just being able to change uppers. Thanks for the Awesome content. Keep up the great work!🤘🏽👊🏽
@e60nate56
@e60nate56 Жыл бұрын
Every reason to have a mk12 and m110. Thanks for the quality content.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Oh 100%! The mk12 and the m110 make the perfect pair!
@jameskiser7791
@jameskiser7791 Жыл бұрын
Love to see a video where you take something like an m16A2 with irons and see how far you can push it out.
@bokiNYC
@bokiNYC Жыл бұрын
Same here 👍
@joehuff4025
@joehuff4025 Жыл бұрын
My 5.56 is in 18 inch and it’s one of my DMR guns, my main DMR is my 308 Rem build. Love them both
@danielhaley89
@danielhaley89 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I’ve come to the realization that for a do-all around the farm that I don’t really have much use for 5.56 aside from training and the cost. I either need to shoot quietly or reach out and drop something. 5.56 not being ideal for dear, I prefer an ar10 as a do-all for deer, coyote, and general target shooting between 100-600y, and 300blk for anything inside of that. Set up a DD5 v3 with a mark 5hd and SD-E. My only regret is underestimating the value of an illuminated reticle in a FFP scope. Will need to fix that eventually.
@carlh4350
@carlh4350 Жыл бұрын
It's seems odd. 20k views but only 1.4k likes. I don't see how you could not like the content.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
I can’t say the like to view ratio is out of the ordinary. I think most folks just watch, then the ones that really enjoyed the video are the ones that leave a like. Either way I’ll take any like I can get haha. Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support!
@carlh4350
@carlh4350 Жыл бұрын
@@MountainsMulletsMerica I guess but... if I watched the whole thing, that means I liked it. I think a simple thumbs up to the content creator is the least I can do. Heck, you guys film it, edit it, upload it and pay for it. A thumbs up seems like a small thing in comparison. Thanks for doing what you do.
@williamhartman7432
@williamhartman7432 8 ай бұрын
Great content. Clear, concise, and to the point...
@oldspeed671
@oldspeed671 11 ай бұрын
Glad I found this channel. Nice shooting and very educational. I don't doubt this guy can replicate these same results with lower tier equipment. 👍👍
@nickpeck6011
@nickpeck6011 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy watching your channel and the information you give is fantastic and I can tell you’re very familiar with the weapons you shoot! 10/10! I like 5.56 out to 800 depending on the setup and conditions but you explained both rifles perfectly. It all depends on where you’d imagine your target being and your weapons capability to achieve that goal, that’s why there there is such a huge variety of options! Nice video!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Really appreciate you taking the time to watch. Totally agree with you, both calibers shown here are awesome performers out to 800ish yds. The key is understanding the pros and cons of each so you can determine when it makes the most sense to employ each of these. For shooting out to 600-800 yds it’s hard to beat the 556 given how easy it is to shoot and how affordable the ammo is.
@mattg9971
@mattg9971 Жыл бұрын
The Man, the Myth, the Mullet...what an awesome Thursday surprise 🫶🇺🇸
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Man I was going to hold this one and launch saturday morning but just couldn't wait to get it out haha.
@laughingpain3006
@laughingpain3006 7 ай бұрын
Great vid. It would also be a neat video to see how the 5.56 stacks up against the other 7.62 variants in popular use today.
@lukeflaugher5334
@lukeflaugher5334 Жыл бұрын
You are a dang good shooter! Never fail to amaze me!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Thank you! It’s amazing what a little bit of luck can look like on camera haha
@arnesmith3122
@arnesmith3122 Жыл бұрын
Great video man love what you’re doing. So my thoughts and this depends on situation. We’ve chatted about this before, down range 5.56 was great because we had a ability to exchange mags if ever needed. A gear common to all. The DMR was very successful at suppressing targets to hold them to bring air. If I wasn’t worried about a gear common to all I’d go 308.
@nathanielstevenson8168
@nathanielstevenson8168 7 ай бұрын
Amazing video! Keep it up. I want to see 556 in a 20” barrel!
@johnandrobinmccoy8305
@johnandrobinmccoy8305 Жыл бұрын
I was impressed how well the 5.56 did at longer ranges. Both did a great job, however, a good shooter makes it look easy. And you made it look easy!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Haha a little luck goes a long ways on camera! Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
@OlNineToes
@OlNineToes Жыл бұрын
I'm just here for the beautiful scenic vista. And the mullet.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Love it! Stay tuned as the mullet and the views aren’t going anywhere haha
@garyjohns4711
@garyjohns4711 Жыл бұрын
That 308 is outa this world GREAT SHOOTING!!!,,,,switch to a 18 or 20 inch supressed upper,,, im running 24 inch barrels
@SOCO_good-life
@SOCO_good-life Жыл бұрын
Impressed/ surprised by the results/performance with the 14.5 at 830. Overall I’d pick a 308 for application but as DM goes, just slap and optic on what you’re issued and start plug’n. Happy Hunting
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was trying to showcase here! My opinion optics are the biggest part of the dmr package. Sure caliber choice is important but as shown here ballistics of the 556 and 762 are super close. My opinion that means you can focus the decision making on other areas…. Round carried, weight, cost, rifle size etc
@shannonboardwine6977
@shannonboardwine6977 Жыл бұрын
Always the best shooting experience watching your videos! 👍
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad to hear you’re enjoying the format. Lots of fresh content coming soon so hope you’ll stay tuned!
@freedom978
@freedom978 6 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to see the same test with 18'' barrels. outstanding performance and Information. Thank you
@DUTYGRADE
@DUTYGRADE Жыл бұрын
Thank you for illuminating the minimal difference in dope. Definitely interesting.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
No problem! I love to see how theory matches up with real world performance. I’ve always heard 556 and 762 were very similar with regards to drop but haven’t ever seen anyone actually illustrate it.
@AndyAdventuring
@AndyAdventuring Жыл бұрын
I have a 5.56 18" Krieger build that is an absolute laser beam with 77gr Black Hills stuff.
@DRay-or4tc
@DRay-or4tc Жыл бұрын
I run both the 7.62 and 5.56 in DMR role. I usually grab a 5.56 as I run 77 gr OTM (IMI) in most of my ARs, regardless of barrel length. Really good Vid.
@benjaminalicea4604
@benjaminalicea4604 Жыл бұрын
Another GREAT video!! Been following you since you had about 3-4k subs and just new the channel would blow up with such comprehensive content. Also - these videos have helped me tremendously in my long range development. Keep it up!!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the support! It’s crazy how much growth the channel has seen recently and I’m tremendously thankful! Super fun to put out videos that folks enjoy. Let me know if you’ve ever got any ideas you’d like to see my try to create content around.
@joearledge1
@joearledge1 Жыл бұрын
7mm-08 or 6.5CM would probably be closer to "the perfect long range cartridge" for these platforms. There's a few others that could have a valid argument too. 5.56 and 7.62 are ok, but not the best options at the cartridge buffet.
@novicereloader
@novicereloader Жыл бұрын
You make great content, man! Nicely done.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
@jaredc2964
@jaredc2964 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I run both calibers
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
My opinion they both compliment each other really well. One of the biggest advantages of 556 is cost to shoot which I totally forgot to mention in the video haha
@jaredc2964
@jaredc2964 Жыл бұрын
@@MountainsMulletsMerica Cost, speed of follow up shots, and weight are really good factors for the 556 308 for me is just really fun to shoot
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
@@jaredc2964 Exact same for me! When it comes to "fun factor" I'm grabbing the 308 each time.
@michalbarsfajny4268
@michalbarsfajny4268 5 ай бұрын
Just wanted to say.. what a beautiful country. At 25.00 mark it looks like windows screensaver, with those rifles even more beautiful
@khangngo753
@khangngo753 6 ай бұрын
Man I never get tired of watching your videos. The quality of filming and clear explanations is just such a pleasure to watch and makes me aspire to be a better shooter like you! Btw, what is the shooter app you’re using please?
@knightingalesaid
@knightingalesaid 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video!! You make it look so easy!
@normreno6994
@normreno6994 Жыл бұрын
Great video with live feedback!! Really surprised at the 556 performance with a 14.5 barrel. I'm kinda old school, I've got similar rifles but with 20" barrels. I'm wondering how much more effective the extra barrel length would make these rifles. Thanks for your informative videos!!
@unichooch
@unichooch Жыл бұрын
The mullet crushes it again, great content keep it coming!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Haha thank you! Hoping to get some fresh content filmed this weekend! Fingers crossed I'll have another video out by month end.
@arcangelsecurity
@arcangelsecurity 6 ай бұрын
Solid..No BS demonstration of the two. Good shooting also.
@glennyap9315
@glennyap9315 Жыл бұрын
Now this is the kind of video we all love to see! Salute!!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you enjoyed this one!
@ES44AC-2
@ES44AC-2 Жыл бұрын
You are making some really nice informative videos! I'm running an 18in rifle length gas system my 5.56 with 77gr. We have so many trees it's hard to shoot out past 500, at least on my property. It's really hard to see any shots that miss ,everything is nice and green now.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
I’d say if your max distance is 500 ish yds an 18” 556 is a great setup. What optic are you running? I grew up in GA so totally understand what you mean about shooting at a target with vegetation behind it… it’s almost impossible to spot your misses if they go into the trees, it can get very annoying haha
@russchapman2997
@russchapman2997 8 ай бұрын
Just seen this. My MK12 Mod 0 has the Leupold MK3A scope with the proper BDC turrets. I run MK262 ammo. I use the .308 turret as the tech at Leupold suggested. It is dead nuts. It covers the DMR Trace effectively but dies out significantly after 700 yards
@stevedragovich909
@stevedragovich909 Жыл бұрын
I'm also a 7.62x51 fan. I have a Frankenstein AR-10 build that will put 10 rounds in a 1/2-5/8" hole at 100 yds. and even with me on the trigger put more than not on a IPSC target at 1,000 meters. The 5.56x45 was designed to be an effective round out to 300 meters.
@Julius.3.6.9
@Julius.3.6.9 Жыл бұрын
Epic video man, i really enjoyed the camera's view of the redicle! Very good comparison of both calibers. I think For hunting 308 is a winner, however for soft shooting I choose 556 because, because it does the job, also 556's ammo is cheaper.
@joegeezer6375
@joegeezer6375 Жыл бұрын
Brother you are one helluva shot! Great video!!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! A bit of luck goes a long ways on camera haha
@corruptbanjo27
@corruptbanjo27 Жыл бұрын
Should add a MRGG-S (Mid Range Gas Gun - Sniper) style rifle currently being sought after by Military/Socom. 6.5 creedmoor with a 20in barrel DI gas system. got Larue, Aero, KAC, LMT all putting in submissions for it. Honestly will probably come down to LMT and KAC. And they're sending shorter barrels for an MRGG-A (- Assult) set up.
@Strelnikov10
@Strelnikov10 Жыл бұрын
You, sir, are a connoisseur of fine weaponry.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Smart financial decisions may not be my thing but as you can see cool guns most certainly is haha
@jluvnklee
@jluvnklee 19 күн бұрын
Great shooting, you really keep the gun steady on the scope cam. Do you shoot off of a rear bag or just build solid position between your body and the bipod? A lot of viewers who don’t shoot a lot of long range may think this looks easy watching you!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica 18 күн бұрын
When shooting prone off the ground I use a rear bag. Running with a bipod up front and a bag in the rear makes for an amazingly stable position. I wouldn’t say it’s hard to get that stable prone but it’s taken me years of practice to get the position nailed down. Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel!
@markmtbrider
@markmtbrider Жыл бұрын
Very cool , one of the best if not the best ranges on the tube. Would like to see 6.5 G and 6 arc vs 308. 308 was a surprise, old girl isn't quite ready for pasture just yet....
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
I’m really hoping to be able to get my hands on a 6arc setup this year. I’ve had a ton of comments from folks asking how it compares to other common calibers. 308 though is no joke, still one of my favorites!
@ThatProduceGuy_
@ThatProduceGuy_ Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see this kinda topic revisited but with a comparison to m80 and m193 ball ammunition.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
This might be something I can do in future content. Thing is I find shooting the cheaper ball ammo at distance get frustrating. Just not consistent enough to be able to engage targets effectively at distance. That said however it might be cool to show how far out each rifle remains consistent as that might provide a definite advantage to one caliber vs another when looking at standard ball ammo specifically. Thanks for watching!
@Crazy-cg9cq
@Crazy-cg9cq Жыл бұрын
I love your videos they help me explain how to use your scope to new shooters befor I get them on the range helps drill it into there head by them hearing it more than once from more than one person I THINK great videos
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear! Really cool you’re able to find value in watching my videos beyond just entertainment. Lots of fresh content in the works so hope you’ll stay tuned!
@vtecfed420
@vtecfed420 Жыл бұрын
When I really started getting into actually shooting at distance I started with a SCAR Heavy obviously in 7.62x51mm. Being in California at the time, my range time was limited. There was one long distance range near me. You would think in NorCal there would be more places to shoot, but the govt has effectively ruined it everywhere you go. The very first time we went I went right over to the long range area. On the third shot, the range officer comes over with his hand on his holstered pistol and tell me I have to leave. I asked why, and he unholstered his pistol and put it to his side. I packed up and grabbed my wife and fiend never to return. Come to find out, someone had complained that the muzzle brake was bothering them while I was shooting. That was in 2016. I’m a truck driver and work a insane amount of hours , so I got lazy and never shot it again. Sold it in 2019 and switched over to 5.56x45mm, .22 long rifle, and .22 magnum. I kinda lost the who reason I was posting, but basically a Karen or Ken couldn’t help themselves in the worst state in America. Thank you if you read all this gibberish.
@SylentONE
@SylentONE Жыл бұрын
Damn that sucks. I would never go back to that range. I hope you left a Google maps and Yelp review
@Santiago308
@Santiago308 Жыл бұрын
As previously stated, this is fuckin gold! Excellent data and excellent video. Not only informative but actually showing the process of gathering data. Also, giving us a challenge to conduct similar testing. I'm a .308 fan in this role primarily for energy of course however a hit at distance with 223 will suck too. Keep'em coming bro 🇺🇸 🇺🇲
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Really appreciate you taking the time to watch! Like you I prefer 308 but as shown here 556 is no slouch. The benefit of 556 is the rifle and gear setup is just so much more handy than a 308 rig. Great option if you’re only pushing out to 600yds or so in my opinion.
@randalljeffs7272
@randalljeffs7272 Жыл бұрын
Cool video for sure
@methanesprings4085
@methanesprings4085 Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent channel, with great info that everyone should know.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Really appreciate you taking the time to watch! Lots of fresh content in the works so hope you’ll share with your buddies.
@nateh2652
@nateh2652 Жыл бұрын
For a marksmans role, I chose 7.62 / 308 due to muzzle energy and terminal ballistics at range. Depending on loading, the 7.62 hits with the same energy at 400 - 600 yards, as the .223 hits at the muzzle. There really isnt a comparison. Hand load it with a Berger VLD and whatever one shoots simply wont stand a chance. Though the .223 / 5.56 is plenty respectable with a solid heavy load, especially out of a proper length barrel such as 18-20 inches. I wouldnt want to get shot with one. But it really is out of snort at that point. For reference, my go to rifle is my H&k Mr762 with Vortex 1-10 Razor gen3
@patrickmeyer4408
@patrickmeyer4408 Жыл бұрын
Great Idea to make a video and very good quality of the video. One cone for the 5.56 is the wind is mor noticable with the small caliber.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
@rowyeah456
@rowyeah456 Жыл бұрын
Another great video love the scenery, greens coming in over the tops of the hills you live in a beautiful place man
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Oh man it’s a beautiful place! Extremely thankful to have access to such an epic place to shoot. Lots of new content planned so hope you’ll stay tuned to check it out!
@rowyeah456
@rowyeah456 Жыл бұрын
​@@MountainsMulletsMerica Oh I'm here for the long haul man, I commented on the first videos of yours I saw about a month and half ago and you responded and I told you there I'm here to stay and here I am, staying. Stay true man love your vids and the formatting you use, so professional.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
@@rowyeah456 love it! Really appreciate the support!
@arapahoetactical7749
@arapahoetactical7749 Жыл бұрын
VERY WELL DONE! You have a great scientific method to your presentation. Some may find it a bit dry but it shows that you are taking nearly everything into consideration and minimizing the number of variables. I do feel that you may have missed a pretty important PRO for the 7.62mm at longer ranges and that is that it seemed to be affected less by cross winds than the 5.56mm. Granted, it presents more sail area, the surface area exposed to the wind, but it has enough mass to reduce the crosswind effect more than the lower mass of the smaller bullet. I think this speaks to the smaller groups you had with the 7.62mm and greater number of hits.
@joshjohnson1653
@joshjohnson1653 Жыл бұрын
Wish I had somewhere like that to shot! I use both but choose the 5.56 more. Less kick easier to enjoy.
@vladimirpecherskiy1910
@vladimirpecherskiy1910 Жыл бұрын
No wind whatsoever in test. And that one of the biggest difference between the 2.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Very fair observation. Really the only wind experienced was shooting 1020 when it was blowing from basically the 12 o clock. Maybe something to try again in the wind!
@edwardhoward4708
@edwardhoward4708 Жыл бұрын
Terrific video! This confirms what I thought for a while; an ACOG for 5.56 will work fine for .308.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
For sure, very close out to reasonable engagement distances with either caliber. Pretty handy!
@patricksmith8930
@patricksmith8930 Жыл бұрын
Love all your videos bud. When your channel blows up, please don't turn into the typical guntuber that spends half of each video pushing some advertisement or discount code.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the support! While I can’t say for sure what the future holds, I can say I don’t intend to turn into any kind of “fluff” channel. I believe I’ve got a unique niche of entertaining content that provides value and it’s that combo that’s leading to the growth I’ve experienced recently. Certainly I will always Be open to ways of growing the channel but I can assure you I’ll also remain mindful of the viewing experience and keep that at top of mind. Like you I don’t like watching the ads but ultimately it’s these opportunities that allow channels to grow so I can’t say I wouldn’t explore options that might make sense. Hope that’s a fair approach for the channel as well as the viewers.
@bradleywaters8857
@bradleywaters8857 Жыл бұрын
New sub. Love this channel! So refreshing to see someone who is very knowledgeable and very skillful yet doesn’t act like a know it all snob. Good shooting by the way. I enjoyed this very much. I would be interested to see how my Mk12 would stack up. I wonder if those extra 3.5 inches of barrel would give those 77s that little boost they needed to get there consistently.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Saw your comment on my latest video, didn’t realize you found the channel through this video, appreciate the sub! In my opinion the 14.5” 556 performed well here…. A mk12 with 18” barrel would just get even better. I’m planning a 556 barrel length compare video and one of the uppers I’ll use will be an 18” mk12 so we should have a quantifiable answer to this question hopefully by end of summer! Hope you’ll stay tuned!
@modernmusket2745
@modernmusket2745 Жыл бұрын
What I wouldn't do to see a Zastava m77 308 on this channel!!!!!! I own one and want to see what it can do in a better shooters hands!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Can’t say the Zantacs m77 is a rig I’m all that familiar with but after checking out Google I think you’re right. Would be something cool and unique to showcase in the channel. Maybe something I can pull off at some point down the road!
@ajsomp
@ajsomp Жыл бұрын
I enjoy both calibers. The 556 makes a great choice for all around being lighter and capable of holding more ammo. However, I’m more and more leaning towards 6 arc which gives better energy than the 556 but still uses a small frame vs the 308.
@willo7734
@willo7734 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m with you. 6 ARC is an awesome cartridge, especially in a bolt gun because you can load it up to about 10% higher pressure. A Howa Mini 6 ARC barreled action plus a stock or chassis (MDT Oryx is amazing and cheap) makes for an inexpensive but high quality long range rifle.
@tyronejackson6593
@tyronejackson6593 Жыл бұрын
6 ARC is great. My buddy built one that we have been playing with. I like it but I don’t think I would want it for anything other then target shooting or hunting. Ammo options are slim and expensive. For a “DMR” or any other mil inspired rifle I want something common and plentiful.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
I’m right there with you. I really want something like a 14.5” or 16” 6arc. Would make for a super handy package that offers great performance out to 1000yds or so. 100% planning to get a 6arc upper for the channel this year so hope you’ll stay tuned to check it out!
@ericblomquist1975
@ericblomquist1975 Жыл бұрын
U R A BEAST Sir!!! Incredible shooting and very informative.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Haha I dunno if I’d say I’m a beast, a little luck goes a long way on camera! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel!
@chkrbrdvans
@chkrbrdvans Жыл бұрын
Actually hitting a 556 @ 1000yds with a 14.5” barrel is amazing! Awesome video! Really loving your content. Keep it up!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Sure I made a couple hits at 1000 with the 14.5” 556 but I’d say it was more luck than anything. Not consistent enough for me to be confident in this setup at that kind of distance. That said, I just finished filming my initial thoughts video with my 6arc upper and I can tell you that’s a game changer for a 14.5” barrel setup. You’ll have to check that video out here when I get it launched!
@chkrbrdvans
@chkrbrdvans Жыл бұрын
@@MountainsMulletsMerica absolutely will check that out!
@1RobHunter1
@1RobHunter1 2 ай бұрын
I'm a fan of 77gr out of the 5.56 rifle. It is lower recoil and easier case resizing. You can carry more ammo. The 5.56 is a much lighter platform to carry all day long and has nice ergo features. The 308 is a Beast.
@12cc90
@12cc90 Жыл бұрын
I'm rocking the 4-16x42 ATACR (Mil-X) on my Block II upper as well. No FSP.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Very nice! My opinion the 4-16 pairs really well with a block ii upper if you’re trying to shoot it out to some distance. Maybe throw a 45 degree red dot on and you’ve got an extremely versatile setup.
@petehafner3844
@petehafner3844 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done wish I had the land for this,unfortunately I live in New Jersey not many places like this around.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Tough to find ground like this on the east coast. I grew up in GA so when I moved out here I realized I had found myself in a long range shooting paradise. Trying to make the most of it while I’m here and hoping to share a bit of it with the world through the channel while I’m at it! Lots of great content in the works so hope you’ll stay tuned!
@Mrjbdesigns
@Mrjbdesigns Жыл бұрын
Pretty impressed by 14.5” at 500 and 800 yds. My DMR is 18.5” BCM and I would think it would do well at 600-800 yds. I also have a 18” .308 but as you note, it’s big and heavy. For good hits to 600 and even 800, hard to argue against 5.56. Thx for video. Love how much space you have to shoot.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Yep my opinion the 556 is a great option if you’re shooting out to 600-800 yds. The rifle and gear setup is so much handier with 556 so major benefit if you’re having to carry the rifle and ammo for any amount of time. For me the benefit of 308 really shows up if you’re consistently shooting in that 800+ yd range. Thanks for watching!
@rangell021
@rangell021 Жыл бұрын
Great Vid! I shoot till 500m with M193 with my DD 14.5 M4A1
@BigJohnsonGG
@BigJohnsonGG Жыл бұрын
Nicely Presented Video! I Subscribed I’m a .308 Guy myself, but I own them both.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Really appreciate the support!
@iii-ei5cv
@iii-ei5cv Жыл бұрын
Love this channel, just discovered today and subscribed immediately (after watching the 6 ARC video)
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate you stopping by to check out my videos and support the channel! Lots more content just like this in the works so hope you’ll stay tuned and make sure to share with your buddies when you can!
@jaimejosepaternina
@jaimejosepaternina Жыл бұрын
One of the best videos about this Topic, thanks Good man…now I follow your Channel
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Really glad to hear you enjoyed the video and I really appreciate the support!
@celebmrk9
@celebmrk9 Жыл бұрын
I’m sure comments are circling around longer barrel length especially for DMR set ups, but what you’ve shown though (with skill) if need be, a fella just might need to reach out without any ‘ideal’ DMR set ups…great job all around young man
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah tons of comments about how folks would prefer longer barrels but my goal in this video is exactly what you mention. Barrel length is only a small portion of the equation…. Optics, bullet choice and training can allow a person to push a “less than ideal” setup to much further distances than most folks would think. Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
@johnbrent1977
@johnbrent1977 Жыл бұрын
Legend mullet man great content
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Жыл бұрын
Haha I’m not sure I’m legend status yet but I appreciate the support and encouragement! Hope you’ll stay tuned and I’ve got a ton of fresh content in the works.
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