5.7 HEMI camshaft and lifter replacement (part 2)

Well I wish that it was going to be just a coil pack but who am I kidding? It’s 2020! The Dodge HEMI 5.7 valve lifters and the camshaft seem to be failing all over the place. Just look at KZbin. Chrysler must know about this. I can’t imagine what it would cost to recall the lifters in all the cars and trucks out there. It really is too bad that there are a lot of people out there, myself included, that are going out and buying vehicles that have just a slight tick in the engine. In my opinion that slight tick is the beginning of an expensive repair. I love getting my hands dirty fixing things. I love the challenge of figuring things out. I also love the fact that there are so many great KZbinrs out there that we can rely on to help us out when we get stuck! I know that I made a lot of references to KZbin while working on this project! I wish you the best of luck in all your projects and thanks for watching!
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[@dadgarage7966]

It's now a selling point in ads with Hemi-equipped vehicles: "Cam and lifters done . . . ."

[@360VRStudios]

Out of all the Hemi rebuild videos, yours was educational and fun to watch!

[@fieromike1]

Thanks Joshua. That makes me want to go out and work on the truck, or maybe even the Fiero. 😉

[@brentfellers9632]

2013, 144,000 kms, #8 intake. half torn down this afternoon. This is definitely one of the better videos on offer. Thanks 😊

[@fieromike1]

Well thank you I appreciate you saying so! There was a lot that I had to edit and also a few times where the camera went dead. I’m not a mechanic by trade but if there’s any areas you’re getting hung up on let me know, I would be happy to tell you what I did. Good luck with your project! Let me know how it turns out. 😉

[@andrewv4491]

@@fieromike1is this truck 4/4 because if so how does the oil pan come off

[@fieromike1]

@@andrewv4491 sorry Andrew it is a Four wheel drive and I didn’t even take the oil pan off mine so not entirely sure.

[@andrewv4491]

@@fieromike1did the gasket leak or no?

[@andrewv4491]

@@fieromike1 since it wasn’t replaced

[@jasoncottier4910]

Love the video!...rather than the loud music a voice over with torque specs and other helpful hints would be greatly appreciated. New to this engine and any and all info is helpful.

[@OTR366]

LOL....your video is like watching me tear my truck apart. Unreal....I'm doing the exact job on my 2013 RAM right now one month after you posted this video. My cam looks just like yours and is in the exact same condition on cylinder 4. Mine only has 88K miles. Makes me think there is something to the cam not getting sufficient oil supply like I've read about. Nice job . I'm waiting on back ordered lifters before I can put mine back together.

[@fieromike1]

😂 thanks. that’s awesome! I think you may be right. The hemi is a great engine but it seams to be unforgiving if you are a minute late with the oil change 😆. If you have the time, the one thing I wished I’d done was change out the exhaust manifold bolts. I have developed a slight leak that seams to go away after it heats up. Maybe that will be a future video if it gets worse. Be safe and Good luck with yours!

[@gregorytimmons4777]

Don't put stock lifters in it. Go with Johnson lifters or Hellcat lifters.

[@powers1776reset]

@@gregorytimmons4777 thanks, I’m about to do this on my 2013 also. Any other advice would always be appreciated, as well.

[@gregorytimmons4777]

@@powers1776reset Well, i always used to put my new ones in a coffee can with enough new clean oil of the type run in the engine and left like that over night before assembly. I'd check what the lifter bores look like and if questionable hone them a minimal amount to improve the surface inside the bores without over doing it and creating too much clearance.

[@greghaener9380]

I feel your pain 2013 with 130000 miles #1 lifter went bad and destroyed the cam. Spend the extra money and get some good lifters!!!

[@chrisesoldo7627]

I might help my brother with this same job on a Durango. He's debating whether to swap the cam and lifters or to get rid of the car completely. I used to be a heavy equipment mechanic and after watching your video, I'm confident that this is the way to go. We'll see soon enough--thanks for sharing!

[@fieromike1]

Thanks. I’m sure you’ll be able to pull it off. Fixing it is the way to go with the prices of cars these days. Good luck with it. Let me know how it goes.

[@mechanicdave4899]

Thank you for getting back to me! This makes me pleased to know I Don’t have to remove the pan to remove oil pump and pickup tube.

[@fieromike1]

I totally know how you feel. I was thinking that in itself was a huge project. Just be sure you don’t drop anything in the top of the pan after you take off the timing chain cover. Good luck with it and I hope you have a warm place to work. It’s getting a bit cold in NY.

[@mechanicdave4899]

@@fieromike1 I have a mechanic shop, all data wasn’t very clear lol thank you for your help!!!

[@ksladerock4465]

I put a hellcat oil pump while replacing my cam and lifters. On the Ram trucks the pickup tube screen is to the back of the pan and bolted underneath the engine so I had to drop my pan to replace the oil pump. Huge pain in the ass . Had to drop the front differential. Jacking the engine wouldn't give me enough room to drop the pan.

[@MrUGA2010]

wow what a video; I witnessed today another damage of the camshaft at one dodge in the shop; that's why im here and subscribed; his was damaged even worse than yours; All the best and keep that engine running!

[@fieromike1]

Welcome and thanks for watching. It really is crazy how many of these have this problem. My latest Was a complete transmission rebuild. That was way out of my league so I had to have somebody else do it.

[@michaelbortz5845]

I have 224k on my 2016 and am getting the misfire #2 cylinder code as well as a recent tick., Replaced the coil but the code came back. Fortunately, I purchased the lifetime warranty so it will be going to a dealership for repairs. Not the dealership I bought the truck from though. The last time I took it to them they tried to say I needed a wheel speed sensor and ABS module which are covered but claimed they weren't covered because the ABS wiring in the bumper was damaged and wanted $1300 to fix it. I said don't do anything I'm coming to get the truck. He said don't you want it fixed? I said yes but the ABS wiring doesn't go through the bumper so I know your lying. I picked up the truck and the codes had been cleared and never came back. That was 80,000 miles ago.

[@larrymitchell546]

I just have my 2014 Ram done in January , it had 103,000 on it , cam , rollers , bent push rod and a bent valve , l also did the mds delete .

[@andrewkimble749]

At the end of the video it still sounds like it’s ticking a lil I could be wrong but great job!🎉

[@fieromike1]

😂 thanks. You are right. Except it was not just a little. It was ticking like a clock shop! After you put these back together on the first start up all of the lifters and rods need to settle in and it will rattle a whole bunch for about five minutes. It is actually kind of scary to hear for the first time if you don’t expect it. 😂

[@kendallwidner3503]

As many camshaft issues I have seen on KZbin and read about in automotive forums, I think there needs to be a class actiin lawsuit against Dodge. I just found out I need a camshaft in my 2012 Ram only 160,000 miles which is really low. Way more than yours but seems as if the camshaft is junk on several year models.

[@ksladerock4465]

Just replaced cam and lifters in my 2012 Ram with 140,000 miles. (My cam was good) had 1 lifter with bad roller bearing. It was squeeking like a belt. Lot of play in the roller.

[@kendallwidner3503]

@@ksladerock4465 I haven't torn into mine yet. Got the misfire #3 replaced all the coil packs and spark plugs. Fuel milage went from 16 to 21mpg after 75 mile drive check engine light came on again. Took it to a shop, Mountain Home Car Care in Mountain Home Idaho, they said I need a new engine $10,500. Hahahaha

[@kendallwidner3503]

I've got a very rare liver lung disease called alpha one antitrypsin deficiency disease, and need a lung transplant. In my small town, Mountain Home Idaho, I couldn't find a shop that would change my cam and lifters, they all wanted to do a new engine. Frustrating as heck because I was getting 16mpg in town and on freeway at 80mph. 18-19mpg at 55-60mph. I got an average of 19.6 on a trip to Texas. I got the misfire code on #3 changed coil packs and plugs, made a 60 mile round trip at 55mph and my milage went up to 21.9. Next day drove 60 miles onr way at 80 mph, got 18.5 mpg. Parked 2 hours fired it up, check engine light came back on. Misfire #3. Started researching and found all these cam issues. If my health was better I would have changed the cam and lifters myself. I ended up buying a brand new factory hemi with 3 year, 100,000 mile warranty installed for $9000. My gas mileage is 12-13 at 80mph and around town. I made the same Texas trip and averaged 18.5. Really disappointing because I know all I needed was cam and lifters. I stopped by after he got old engine out and I pulled the oil control valve, spotless, not a speck of metal or silver anywhere.

[@davem5333]

Starting up is the best music. Which way for the belt? It's obvious. Smooth to smooth, groove to groove.

[@LarryReynolds591]

It's just the MDS. Best indication is that this happens to about 5% of Hemi engines. Chevy has massive issues with their lifters in their MDS engines too.

[@joshkrause2977]

Yep mds lifters are junk.

[@jeremysimpson5155]

5%? seems to be like 50%. There is a whole industry set on the failures of the hemi, and LS DOD failures. I am in the middle of this job right now, and have found out i have a 2nd failing lifter. Going with hellcat lifers, and dumping the whole MDS BS.

[@ayyliljessie3704]

@@jeremysimpson5155 how did it work for you

[@jeremysimpson5155]

@@ayyliljessie3704 worked great! put in the diablo tuner, helcat cam and lifters. Expensive job. But nothing too hard to do.

[@jeremysimpson5155]

@@ayyliljessie3704 I got lucky, and the lifter didnt damage the cam, but i was there, and i put a new one in anyway.

[@360VRStudios]

Simple engines, what fun to rebuild one and resell it.

[@achakus101]

Any idea where I can find a manual to rebuild this engine??

[@DependableAutoTruck]

most of us around here in southeast alabama run Shell Rotella in the Hemi's seems to work better it still has ZINC in it which is good for engines. i know you are about to say thats diesel oil yes it is and its a better oil. everyone i put a cam and lifters in leaves my shop with Shell Rotella in it with a Wix filter. but i will have to say we see just as many LS engines with the same problem. its odd i service a fleet of dodge 3500 series trucks single rear wheels they run amsoil in theirs they sold one the other day with 620,000 only thing done to engine was tune ups oil changes and water pumps so far have several with over 300,000 miles they have never had any camshaft lifter failure so far

[@jakes.5591]

Did those fleet rams have hemi engines or Cummins?

[@johnjenkins2024]

living dangerously not replacing crankseal & waterpump with that many miles when you were right there . alot of work to get back to them.

[@fieromike1]

I agree it may have seemed like I was close to that crank seal but I was actually miles away. It would’ve required the removal of the oil pan which was absolutely no easy task given the frame holding the engine would have to be removed and also the oil pump. At that point the timing chain would’ve come off. However I do look at the project and say “ I wish I changed the timing chain, oil pump and crank seal “ but then I justify it by saying I was still miles away from getting to them. It is the battle I have in my mind constantly.😂 Anyway it’s still running strong 50,000 miles later. Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting.😉

[@johnjenkins2024]

I meant the front crank seal.and water pump but i hear what your saying.@@fieromike1

[@thrashpandaentertainment7013]

when i swap my cam out,its definitely going to be kept as a trophy

[@fieromike1]

😂 I look back now and it definitely would have been worth the hundred bucks!

[@edjackson4389]

I wish I had that much room to work on my 5.7 Hemi. The engines aren't hard to wrench on, but under the hood of a Grand Cherokee space is tight

[@fieromike1]

Yeah that would be a bit tight. On the bright side, once you get all the radiators and the grill out of the way, you won’t have to climb up it in every 10 minutes. I guess everything has its pros and cons. Good luck with your project!

[@davidsimmons2148]

Great job on the video. So far, knock on wood, I’m ok with188,000 on my 2016. I hear a tick, but not bad yet. I will mark this one. Really loved the sound track.

[@fieromike1]

Thanks! I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you. 🤞

[@bernardsavard493]

Thanks-you, it was very well done and easy to follow. Lower the music though.

[@joshkrause2977]

During MDS operation the same four cylinders are always shut down. They are 1, 4, 6, and 7. My ram has 120k but I always bypass the mds. On the 8 speed transmissions using the gear selectors on the steering wheel disables the mds. All I do is before I drive while the truck is in drive press gear - once then gear + until 8, the trans will shift normal as well.

[@BWADaniel]

Apparently that will cause your lifters to prematurely fail. Mine just did it and blew the motor at 133k miles. Rebuilding it now lol. When you have MDS off, the solenoid fucking blocks the flow of oil to your Non MDS lifters, it’s the stupidest shit ever! There’s a few videos on it.. Chrysler literally designed the engine to become less lubricated unless MDS is left alone / ON. So don’t turn your MDS off until you do an MDS delete with the solenoid delete. Then you can feel safe.

[@zekemontgomery6678]

Have my 2010 torn down. Waiting on parts. 200k truck. Thanks for the video

[@fieromike1]

Thanks for watching! Hope it all works out.

[@vipertv6010]

I have that piano song stuck in my head now. 😂

[@alangoddard8152]

Just had my 2018 ram have a roller fail at 85,000 miles despite RELIGIOUS oil changes every 3000 miles since i bought it new. Rumor is they are cheaply produced in china with poor metallurgy. I’ve even heard of them coming fresh out of the box missing a needle bearing. I caught the lifter tick early and was just going to replace my lifters but this video makes me think its going to need a cam as well. I dont have the dreaded misfire but its probably only a matter of time if I don’t address it now

[@chrisabreedapartnyhc5337]

Wow Great vid.!!I wish I had the balls to do it myself if or when I need it,I’m sure I can take it apart but getting it back together is another story lol

[@fieromike1]

Yes I seriously started to doubt myself after I took the chain cover off. I was thinking what did I get myself into? But there was no turning back.

[@vidalgranados126]

Just pay close atention, make sure put,every,thing back

[@radelarosa97]

I got mine fix last year, now just a week ago it’s misfiring cylinder 6, and it’s the lifter again lol. I fixed it at 150,000miles and now it only has 157,000 and it’s down. Never again I would take it too a shop, spent 2,500. I’ll just do it myself, just need the time. Glad she’s alive!

[@fieromike1]

😢 that’s the worst one yet. Sorry to hear that. Only 7k miles. Is it the same cylinder?

[@radelarosa97]

@@fieromike1 Last time it was cylinder 8 but now it’s 6.

[@fieromike1]

@@radelarosa97 well at least Chrysler is telling us that they have a “new distributor” for the roller bearings now. I hope it all works out for you. It truly is a shame because I really do like this truck. Keep me posted please. I would like to someday do a follow up Video on My truck and all D responses did I have been getting.

[@joshkrause2977]

Get rid of the mds system and lifters when you do.

[@WilliamBush1967]

so what was your total time in hours for this project

[@SaintGiablo556]

I own a 5.7 Hemi too same problem right after 150k miles! Very common problem I see for these 5.7 they should recall these parts lifters and cam but their labor cost will put them out of business

[@Dodge_Hemi]

Great work. I am about to embark on this project on my 2007 Durango. Thanks for posting this.

[@fieromike1]

Thanks Ganash. Good lunch with the Durango. I hope you have someplace warm to work on it. 😉

[@Dodge_Hemi]

@@fieromike1 Its going to get a bit warmer here in Cincinnati soon. I replaced the solenoids 6 months ago, and now I have this MDS tick, cylinders 7 and 4 misfiring. I am sure the camshaft has taken some beating. I am thinking of eliminating the MDS system altogether with CompCams' camshaft and Hellcat non-MDS lifters - same engine as yours but non-vvt. Why did you go the factory route and replace it with the same system?

[@fieromike1]

@@Dodge_Hemi I went for factory parts from the dealership for two reasons. First was I wanted to be sure I was putting the right parts in the engine. Second was the dealership was willing to back up their parts and replace the entire engine if need be due to a failure of their parts. There were no guarantees for anything if I use anything other than original parts. I have been told by the dealership that they now have a new distributor for the lifter bearings but it is my feeling that it is an oil problem anyway.

[@gman123167]

Great job... I have 175000 miles on my 09 and see the same thing in my future. Already had 4 lifters replaced and the mechanic said the cam was fine (right). Thanks for sharing.

[@fieromike1]

Thanks. That’s too bad. I would think that if the lifter failed to the point that you needed to replace it the cam must have taken a beating, let alone three. But what do I really know? I’m a carpenter 😂. Good luck with it! Thanks for subscribing!!!

[@gregorytimmons4777]

It's possible if you caught it right away. I think a roller lifter could work on a lobe that was slightly less than pristine provided it rolls freely of course.

[@edlehman7420]

My 11 mega 2500 had cam done at 140,000 by the dealer at 192 and here we go again, I`m going with a long block from Frasers.

[@fieromike1]

Wow that sucks! My biggest issue right now is the struts. I have replaced them three times and it still feels like I’m on a life raft in rough seas at about 60mph. Someone needs to start having some pride in what they are making or we’re all going to be walking soon.

[@victorortega2718]

Where are you located ? Got a 2017 ram 1500 sport, fixed the eng manifold exhaust leak a few weeks ago had 3 broken bolts, but if i ever get the lifter tick might come your way lol wish you had a step by step detailed vid I do it my self bit its prob too long for yt youd be a life saver for millions tho lol

[@shaneonews6791]

Hope you cleaned your block out. All that metal shavings everywhere. Most people just get a rebuilt engine. But there's a design flaw in the block. It's that tube that's between the crank and cam. Doesn't allow oil to properly lube the lifters. Especially If you're idling a lot. So no matter what. It's going to happen again.

[@fieromike1]

Nope I didn’t clean the block out. Almost 4 years later and The truck has an additional hundred thousand miles since the camshaft was changed. The.” design flaw.” that you’re referring to is the crankshaft not slinging oil up to the top. The real flaw is in the needle bearings on the lifters. Chrysler now has a new distributor for the part so hopefully they’ve been properly case hardened. Remember, this only happens to less than 4% of the 5.7s. I think that a “no matter what it’s going to happen again”!statement is kind of bold.

[@backyardbashing6136]

@@fieromike1I’m glad to see this comment. I am looking at buying a 2011 with 114,000 miles and there aren’t any service records of cam or lifters being replaced so I was very hesitant. That 4% stat makes me feel better, even though I might replace the cam and lifters for preventative maintenance 😂

[@bruceeverett3126]

Funny mine looks just like yours can't complain too bad I got 200.000 out of mine but it's still a pain in the ass! But I'm going with a little bit of a bigger cam it's all paid for so why not

[@bjjetrich]

It’s the self-sufficient Dodge owners like you that keep defective designs like this from causing problems at the corporate level.

[@projectbumblejeep4190]

Who among us can afford park a vehicle and wait for corporate to do the right thing? I can't. And if there is a class action lawsuit, those of us who either did the work ourselves or paid someone else to do it, can be reimbursed for our trouble.

[@fieromike1]

😂 The only thing we’re preventing is their service garages for making thousands of dollars fixing this themselves. We know they love it when they can sell us a product and then bill us to fix it!

[@francomartin5388]

Hi friend, I've seen your video a thousand times and I'm following your steps. I'm doing the same job on my 2012 RAM 1500 5.7 hemi and I need a favor, if you don't mind, what torque did you use on each screw of each piece when assembling it? Please, I can't find the torques for my RAM and I've had my RAM disassembled for almost a month now, ready to be assembled, but I'm not risking doing it until I have the exact torques down to the last screw. Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience. Good day. PS: I'm not a mechanic, I'm an amateur!

[@fieromike1]

@@francomartin5388 Thanks for all the views! Sorry to respond so late. It took about 25 to 30 hours of labor for me. I suppose that includes stopping to look up things on KZbin. So I understand your concern. Thank god we have KZbin! I am a carpenter by trade so this was a challenging project but a welcomed change of scenery. Their was nothing much more than your basic mechanics set of sockets, wrenches, screwdrivers and a few torque wrenches. The only tool I “borrowed” (free rental) from advanced auto parts was the harmonic pulley puller. Which I needed to put three nuts bolts and washers on to remove the pulley. The fuel line disconnect tool was kind of a specialty tool but it was off the shelf at the auto parts store for less than $10. The pneumatic tools are handy but not necessary. I looked for torque specs in many places because each list I saw seamed to be incomplete but here is a link to a video that is helpful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqfEcmeNgd-dhbc Make sure you pay attention to weather it is foot pounds or inch pounds If you have any questions, just reach out. You got this!!!👍

[@francomartin5388]

Thank you so much. I'll let you know how it went. Very kind of you to help me. Thanks​@@fieromike1

[@vipertv6010]

My friend my track is done I finish I thank you so much for your video it helped me a lot my truck is running smooth I replace all the exhaust bolts new water pump new camshaft new lifters. New harmonic balancer because I broke the original one taking it out🤪

[@fieromike1]

Wow! What an achievement. That is no small task. You should be proud of yourself. I’m glad the video was helpful. The one thing I wish I did was the manifold bolts. 🤔Maybe that will be another video 😬

[@vipertv6010]

@@fieromike1 Yes I knew those would be an issue one was broken I have to take it out from the heads that's right I replaced them for a new ones

[@williamgardner2398]

Just got mine back 3000 dollars 3 weeks to fix 12 lifters 6 rockers one cam in V6 89000 miles

[@fieromike1]

Oh man! Even the six’s are getting wiped out! Glad to hear you got it back on the road!

[@salvadorhuerta8320]

Great video only bad point dont let us hear the best sound when you starter 😝

[@fieromike1]

😂 thanks! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnmck32LmJ5_mqM

[@donaldchapman8392]

#132,000 miles - #5 misfire. Dealer wanted $11,000 to repair this telling me I needed a new head and exhaust manifolds on top of the cam and lifters. I told them to go pound salt - I'll do it myself. I just didn't want to be in the Florida heat doing this at age 67! So while I am at it I am replacing the oil pump with a high volume Melling for a little extra protection.

[@fieromike1]

@@donaldchapman8392 that’s awesome!! What year is your truck?

[@donaldchapman8392]

@@fieromike1 2011. I found a nice set or remanufactured heads for $800. As long as I am in there I may as well do it.

[@fieromike1]

@@donaldchapman8392 that’s awesome. It’s better that you do the head over anyway because those exhaust manifold bolts are probably getting ready to break if they haven’t broken already. Seems like you’re doing a lot more to yours than I did to mine but I know you’re gonna be all the better for it. Stay in touch. Keep me posted. Let me know how it goes.

[@donaldchapman8392]

@@fieromike1 I will. I'll be going slow, 67 years old and crawling inside a truck is a bit hard these days. Gone are the old days of bench pressing a Muncie 4-speed into my GTO! Anyway, all the parts are ordered. I will start the teardown today in the 90 degree Florida humidity! BTW, have you ever used EngineTech parts available from Rock Auto? I ordered their Lifter set - hopefully they are decent. I ordered a MOPAR cam.

[@donaldchapman8392]

@@fieromike1 Maybe you can help me. I see 2 different part numbers for the camshaft on this engine. 2011 "T" VIN, I ordered 53022372AA but I also see 53022263AF. Do you know which is the correct camshaft? Thanks

[@jasongreek2342]

Thanks. I have a feeling I'll be into this at some point in the not-too-distant future. Looks like the only tools I'm missing is the harmonic balancer puller and a fuel line tool. Looks like I'll need (besides lifters and a camshaft) intake gasket, head gaskets, valve cover gaskets, timing cover gasket, water pump gasket, assembly grease, probably RTV, I suspect I need a thermostat too (unrelated), exhaust manifold gaskets, and if there's gaskets for the outlet of the exhaust manifolds... oh, I should do the 02 sensor that's bad while I'm at it...

[@knightech2508]

Get a new oil pump if you're going to go through the trouble of this repair, the stock oil pumps drop below 15 psi at idle and don't supply enough oil to the lifters, so you'll have this happen again if you don't. Melling makes an aftermarket pump that performs like a gen 4 pump. The oil pump from the 6.1 of this model year also fits, so that's an option as well. Either way, if you want your repair to last, you will need a new oil pump as well. Cheers.

[@NasserBatieha]

Great job bro! You made the whole process look easy

[@fieromike1]

Thanks! I probably spent 6 hours editing out all the knuckle busting and swearing. 😂

[@Spoofaged]

@@fieromike1 how long in total did the swap take you? I'm another lucky ram owner about to fondle it's cam shaft...

[@fieromike1]

@@Spoofaged It took about 25 to 30 hours of labor. I suppose that includes stopping to look up things on KZbin. Thank god we have KZbin! I am a carpenter by trade so this was a challenging project but a welcomed change of scenery. Wow you’re going to fondle the camshaft!? I suppose that means you must identify as a HEMI owner. 😂

[@Spoofaged]

@@fieromike1 haha hey, 25-30 with watching AND making videos sounds about reasonable. Now you have people looking you up on KZbin thanks to our WeLL DeSignEd hemis 🤔 I love the truck so I guess performing a little surgery won't kill me... Maybe lol thanks for the reply man!

[@MrFifth-up9jz]

You are a true artist! Amazing job

[@fieromike1]

Thanks! Much appreciated!

[@dougwatson6406]

I have an issue with my 2016 Charger Scatpack 6.4L and Chrysler will not acknowledge anything is wrong. I've been telling then the noise from the R/S of the engine is not normal. My extended warranty is up in February and I know that's when the shit will hit the fan...

[@jprelli7993]

Nice Job. I do see a lot of these video's on KZbin and one thing that I have learned is that before you even attempt to do this you should pull your oil control valve and see if you have metal shavings in it. If it does I have read that the engine is done and you need to do a replace or rebuild. Correct me if im wrong.

[@fieromike1]

First of all I have to say I love the screaming eagle! Now that I got that out-of-the-way. I never checked the oil control valve. That probably would’ve been a good idea. 😂 I didn’t find any metal shavings in the bottom of the oil pan, that’s not to say that they’re not there somewhere. Hopefully the oil filters did their job. I’ve always been really good about changing the oil.

[@johnjlanejr]

Not always the case. If the metal gets filtered and oil changed regularly you should be good. I have only seen one person on the internet that wiped his camshaft bearing and needed a new engine.

[@amandadowney8697]

@@fieromike1 I have a 2012 Ram 2500 with the 5.7 Hemi with 119,995 miles that now has a Cyl 5 Misfire code. After replacing the plugs, boots and coil pack the light has come back on. It does have a slight tick but after clearing the code the light had stayed out after replacing the plugs and boots. Until we were towing the racecar home in the rain and it started to buck. We pulled over shut off the engine and waited. It drove okay the rest of the way home. We replaced the coil. The light was out while idling at home. Took it for a test drive and now it's back on. So I believe we are looking at the same repair. My Question is this: the dealer is saying that if the metal shavings have reached the oil control valve that we will be chasing metal forever and should just install a remanufactured engine. That's a $4500 job. I'm kind of afraid to tear it down to see and am not sure I want to replace the cam and lifters if I'm going to have to keep chasing more issues caused from metal from the first failure. That's a lot of tear down to confirm the amount of damage. Also, I have no way to haul the racecar to my last race this weekend. I'm bummed!

[@autoandhomediy5974]

From what I've learned. If there is shavings present in the 6.2 or 6.4 that mopar calls for engine replacement. Other then that you would see the shavings going this deep into the engine and make sure to atleast drop the oil pan and clean it out. Don't think it's going to kill it.

[@bobpitcher670]

The same thing happened to my Ram Only one lifter and the cam lobe It almost seems that they put one bad lifter in each engine Notice that there is no wear on any other lobes I don’t think that it is lack of lubricant

[@fieromike1]

I hear that this is happening in about 4% of the 3rd gen hemi. I suspect that it is more because of people that scrap the vehicle rather than fix it or they are slipping by unknown when fixing them with aftermarket parts in mom and pop garages. I tend to agree with you about the lubricant. When I got my parts from the dealership they told me that they had a new distributor for the roller bearings. I think they were failing because of bad needle bearings. Thanks for watching 😉

[@537delight]

spectacular job wow

[@fieromike1]

Wow thank you!

[@davidmueller2780]

So i heard on another video that 2009 to 2014 ram switched manufacturers for the lifters and they were junk! 2015 to 2018 they switched back to the original manufacturer and dont have near the lifter problems! Crossing my fingers ! I have a 2015 with 83000 !

[@fieromike1]

Also the other thing that you have going for you is that this problem is on only about 3% of the hemi engines out there. Although I heard that 32.6% of statistics are made up on the spot. Let’s just keep our fingers crossed 🤞😂

[@rippinaroundeverywhere9249]

Good job man! Hoping my 16 2500 6.4 doesn't shit the bed...

[@fieromike1]

😂 thanks! their is a good chance you are safe. This seems to happen to less than 4%.

[@AndroidTap]

I see you great about answering comments so imma shoot my shot: 1. What was the hardest part of the swap/what part gave you the most unexpected trouble? 2. do you have any concern when it comes to metal shavings in the engine?

[@fieromike1]

😂 I would have to say that the hardest part of the project was removing the harmonic balancing pulley. I had to modify the puller that I had and use bolts and nuts instead of the forks that you normally use. I am a carpenter by trade but I love working on cars. With that being said I suppose simply having enough guts to do it to begin with was kind of hard. I did not have the heads machined in a shop so the anxiety that I might be screwing the whole thing up definitely didn’t help much. I was always in contact with a good friend of mine who is a excellent mechanic so his advice as I went on was definitely useful. With that being said, I showed him the camshaft after it was removed and he was not concerned that metal shavings would be an issue. He said if it was three or four lobes that were messed up he would begin to wonder. I also keep a magnet on the end of my oil drain plug and it wasn’t showing signs of an absolutely horrible situation.

[@brandonmorgan2467]

Hey mike, I’m fixing to have to do this job on my 09 5.7 hemi. Any tips or tricks. And would you mind letting me know where you found all your torque specs for everything. Anything I should consider while doing this job, and last but not least what is best to keep timing in order and what special tools might I need before I get started. Thanks!

[@DependableAutoTruck]

summit has a torque chart that is really nice

[@donaldchapman8392]

I am doing this right now. Any worries about not a full engine rebuild or the metal shavings damaging bearings, etc? I do not have any way to pull the motor and send it out for a rebuild. I am going to replace the cam, lifters, timing chain, oil pump, water pump (may as well). I will change the oild and filter after cam breakin and then again after 2 or 3 hundred miles. Thoughts?

[@fieromike1]

@@donaldchapman8392 honestly you’re doing a heck of a lot more than I did. I was in contact with a longtime mechanic friend of mine during my whole project. He basically said that if less than two lobes were wiped out not to worry about the amount of filings that would be in the rest of the motor. That was 130,000 miles ago and my engine is still running strong. I didn’t even change out the oil pump. Same as you, I did an oil change and then another after 300 miles. It never really showed the glitter in the oil even when I dumped it before I did the project. Most people that do this project don’t end up needing to do a full engine rebuild so I think you’re heading in the right direction. Good luck!

[@donaldchapman8392]

@@fieromike1 Hi, thanks for the reply and information! I feel a bit better about the whole thing. From what I can tell, (I only have the left head off today) it is only cylinder 5 and 1 cam lobe. It is not 100% gone as the valve still opened slightly, enough that if you drove like a 99 YO granny it would seem to run fine. Best

[@user-yk5xk5re3p]

I have a 2010 charger 5.7. Barley 100k miles on it. Love that car. I'd rather have to swap my lifters and cam then to have a valve seat drop on me lol

[@dustinhogan5489]

That was a 1st gen hemi issue not 2ng gen and current issue

[@whowho7969]

Also cut open your oil filter look for metal and we made a magnet to fit in the oil pan Went fishing

[@fieromike1]

I didn’t bother with the oil filter however I put a magnetic oil pan plug in and I also have about four neodymium magnets stuck to the bottom of the oil pan. I happen to do an oil change shortly after I got the first misfire code and noticed there was some filings on the oil pan plug. I suppose that’s when I realized what I was in for.

[@bjjetrich]

Awesome vids. Like the jazz. Like the mech tips.

[@christopherbrown3785]

Im doing the same job on my charger tomorrow but im going to change my oil pump and chain while im in there. With all that scraping on your cam there has got to be finite metal shavings in your pump.

[@fieromike1]

No doubt there’s probably metal shavings jammed in every bearing inside the engine. 😂 I did this project while in constant contact with a mechanic friend of mine. I showed him the camshaft before closing everything up. Basically if there was more than one lobe that had been wiped out I would have also changed the oil pump. I’ve always kept magnets the bottom of the oil pan. They did have shavings on them. And yes I probably should’ve change the chain. But I definitely need something to do for the next video. I hope you have a nice dry warm place to work on the car. I wish you the best of luck. Let me know how it turns out.

[@marcorafael312]

Amazing dude i have the same problem with my 2012 Sport, with 201 thousand miles, at this point not even know if it worth to fix, cause I'm not Mechanical driven to do it myself. The first symptoms started about the same milage as yours, over time got worse... i started with po303 to a multiple miss fire

[@fieromike1]

Wow. If you have put close to 100k Miles on it with a bad camshaft I would just swap out the entire engine now. 😉

[@SWATT101]

I think I have "the" tic...should I wait on it throwing a code?

[@fieromike1]

Sorry to hear that The longer you wait the more filings enter the rest of the engine.

[@SovereignKnight74]

What year is this truck? I hear the 2019 and newer models have this issue resolved.

[@fieromike1]

It is a 2011. I would hope thy do. Let’s wait and see after they have 100k on them before we let them say they fixed it though. 😬

[@index6738]

Fixed in 2016

[@SovereignKnight74]

@@fieromike1 I ask this because if somehow I managed to get a Dodge Challenger 5.7 R/T, I would not want to be stuck with the paranoia of owning somthing that will fail and cost allot of money to fix.

[@fieromike1]

@@SovereignKnight74 I would say by the charger and enjoy it! Life is too short to be paranoid about things that haven’t happened.

[@fearlessfly100]

Thanks for the video of the tear down and replacement of the camshaft and lifters in the 5.7 hemi.......im buying an 03 1500 with 97,000 miles and the seller says it makes a loud knocking noise when running with one dead cylinder....... so minimal im looking at pulling the heads and finding out what i need to do to repair the engine..... now i have a clearer view and it doesnt have 10 chains like other engines do for overhead valves.......do you think $2000 is too much for a 2003 with 97,000 miles? lol.... when i start tearing it apart im gonna post a video of the outcome of the engine........

[@fieromike1]

I’m glad you find the videos useful. $2000 for a truck with less than 100,000 miles on it! That sounds good to me even if you have to spend a couple grand to make it good again. I would assume there was a check engine light on so at the very least I would start by finding out what the computer is telling you about the engine. It’s a challenging project but I have no doubt that you’ll be able to get it done. Good luck with it and when you post your video feel free to post a link to it right here in the comments. I look forward to seeing it! Good luck and be safe.

[@neilporven3830]

Nice video!!! I am now going to do the same job. Car dealer said cylinder #6 is miss firing and I am getting white smoke coming from the exhaust pipe only when it first starts up. I have three questions: how long did it take? Any special tools, especially for the fuel injectors? Where can I get engine timing and screw pound adjustments ?

[@fieromike1]

Thanks! It took about 25 to 30 hours of labor. I suppose that includes stopping to look up things on KZbin. Thank god we have KZbin! I am a carpenter by trade so this was a challenging project but a welcomed change of scenery. Their was nothing much more than your basic mechanics set of sockets, wrenches, screwdrivers and a few torque wrenches. The only tool I “borrowed” (free rental) from advanced auto parts was the harmonic pulley puller. Which I needed to put three nuts bolts and washers on to remove the pulley. The fuel line disconnect tool was kind of a specialty tool but it was off the shelf at the auto parts store for less than $10. The pneumatic tools are handy but not necessary. I looked for torque specs in many places because each list I saw seamed to be incomplete but here is a link to a video that is helpful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqfEcmeNgd-dhbc Make sure you pay attention to weather it is foot pounds or inch pounds. Good luck with yours. Let me know if their is anything else that I can help you with. 😉

[@neilporven3830]

@@fieromike1 thank you much for your reply and for the tip on ft. Pounds vs inch pounds. I will definitely check out the link you mentioned for the settings and also thanks for the special tools recommendation. Thank you.....

[@rolankelly9683]

Man to see you go in and fix that problem yourself just brought teas to my face because I’m facing the same issue and I thought to do the same thing but I’m not sure of my comfort level dealing with timing chain. I’ve gone in did work on manifold but not cam and lifters It sound great when u cranked it up.. How long did the process take you and what brand did you replace the manufacture cam and lifters with? Thanks in advance..

[@fieromike1]

Well I can totally relate to a slight feeling of anxiety when taking on a project that’s new and slightly outside of your comfort level. This was the first time I dealt with timing, cam and lifters myself. I am a carpenter by trade but I’ve always liked working on cars. I did a lot of research on KZbin and I was also Constantly calling a mechanic friend of mine that Has been working on my car since I was 16 years old. I replaced all the parts with Chrysler parts from the dealership. That was for two reasons. First I wanted to make sure I was getting the right parts. Second I was insured that if any of the replacement parts caused a failure Chrysler would guarantee the engine. That wouldn’t be the case if I used aftermarket. My biggest fear in the whole project it is that I would get stuck halfway through and have to have the whole thing towed to my mechanic. Instead I just kept taking breaks and watching KZbin. 😂 To be honest though there wasn’t anything incredibly difficult about the whole thing. I did not have the heads sent out to be refinished they were still very flat and in good condition. As far as the timing goes, I just kept tension on the chain and the crankshaft timing gear the entire time after I had set the engine at top dead center and then I just reassembled everything and cross my fingers. From start to finish including all the KZbin breaks and phone calls, l started on a Friday evening and finished at about 11 PM the following Tuesday night It’s been almost one year and the truck is still running beautifully. I’m sure if you set your mind to it you’ll be able to get it done. If you have any further questions please feel free to ask, and good luck with your project!

[@rolankelly9683]

@@fieromike1 thank you my friend for the reply. Sounds as if you had your mind set on getting her done.. You made good time also. I think I will plan to do the same I’m just very surprised no recall has been put in place because it’s happening so much and I think that’s a lot of money involve for Chrysler to get away with smh.. I will do the same youtube and brakes just to make sure I can do the same. I appreciate your reply and the pointers.. Hope minds runs like your after all is said and done.. I will keep you posted my friend.. Thank you much..

[@kevinb1890]

@@rolankelly9683 1

[@TheNugler]

Its insane that so many of the lobes are damaged.

[@jeanrossignol-nn6gj]

curious how long the whole job took you!

[@DarienDrakee]

The roller lifters didn't get replaced ? Because their needle bearings are the cause of the wear on the cam of course 🤷‍♂️

[@fieromike1]

😂 Of course I replace the roller bearings, and I absolutely agree the needle bearings are the cause of this issue. One of the only times my camera died was when I was removing the lifters and bearings and of course it died again when I was putting them in. 😂 I think it was in the last minute of the part one video when I held one of them up and showed how bad it was. Chrysler says that they have a new distributor for this part which to me is as good as them admitting did they know that it is the problem. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. It helps with this whole KZbin algorithm.😉

[@advancednutritioninc908]

Great video ... just enough commentary! nice touch on the serpentine belt editing! Great Work!! I hope you get at least another 100K out of it! Best of Success to You! What year was your truck?

[@fieromike1]

Thanks a lot. It was a lot of fun. I have a new respect for people that put out a video every week. The truck is a 2011.

[@SamuelRSands]

Do you have a link for the complete camshaft kit?

[@fieromike1]

I got all the parts that I used from the dealership because I wanted to ensure that I was getting what was intended for the truck. I was also told by them that they are now using a “new vender”for the lifters. I hope that it makes a difference. It cost about $1800. I’m sure I could have got them cheaper but I was willing to pay for the peace of mind that I was getting the rite parts. Two new head gaskets, valve cover gaskets, timing chain cover gasket, water pump gasket, camshaft, lifters, and I ended up needing to replace one ever so slightly bend lifter rod ($4). The rod that was bent was unsurprisingly from the same lifter that went bad. One other thing you may end up needing to get would be exhaust manifold gaskets and new exhaust manifold bolts. I did my best to keep them attached to the heads when I removed them. The bolts that hold on the exhaust manifolds are quite often already snapped. That is why most people who have a HEMI Hear the “HEMI Tick” until the engine warms up and expands the exhaust manifold enough to seal the leak. It took about 25 to 30 hours of labor. I suppose that includes stopping to look up things on KZbin. Thank god we have KZbin! I am a carpenter by trade so this was a challenging project but a welcomed change of scenery. Good luck with yours.😉

[@jeremysmith6642]

I’m finishing one up today, why did you not do the MDS delete? Just curious if you know something I don’t cause I think it’s one of the coolest things I’ve seen in a while.

[@fieromike1]

No reason other than I am just keeping it stock. Whenever I feel like I don’t want it I just shut it off.

[@chrisfabel803]

Would have been nice not to have the background music going during first startup after replacing everything so people could hear the engine running.

[@fieromike1]

😂 you aren’t the first person to say that 😂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnmck32LmJ5_mqM Thanks for watching 😉

[@chrissain3712]

You didn’t show the lifter install?? But it was a good video

[@fieromike1]

Thanks! the battery died in camera. 😢 always at the good parts. 😂 both when I took them out and put them in. But you didn’t miss much. 4 bolts and they came out in packs of four at a time.

[@fredm2786]

So did you replace the lifters? 😮

[@fieromike1]

Yes unfortunately it was the only part that the camera didn’t record 😝

[@wadesaunders583]

How the heck do you remember to put it back together!

[@fieromike1]

😂 that’s half the reason I recorded it.

[@arizonaguy7574]

Baggies & a Sharpie

[@Kurtz6603]

@@arizonaguy7574 And at times painters tape with letter code lol. I use to tape connectors and put A B C on them.

[@vidalgranados126]

Good question

[@bobanat9494]

What was the mileage on the truck?

[@fieromike1]

Sorry Bo but I’m at work right now and don’t have the ability to look it up but I think I may have mentioned it in part one somewhere.😉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnukqIeBdtJ-a8U

[@titob1895]

Thank Your a good man I need to do this and can't afford the 4k the dealer is asking and with this detailed video im gonna save 3k can't thank you enough

[@fieromike1]

That’s awesome! I’m glad it is helpful. Their is a lot of great videos out there and I wouldn’t have been able to do this without them. If you haven’t already you should check out Scott rods. kzbin.info He has some useful input on this also. Good luck with your project. Let me know how it turns out. 😉

[@titob1895]

@@fieromike1 will do sir

[@danieltrottier5943]

How much time was involved from start to finish approximately ?

[@fieromike1]

It took about 25 to 30 hours of labor. I suppose that includes stopping to look up things on KZbin. Thank god we have KZbin! I am a carpenter by trade so this was a challenging project but a welcomed change of scenery.

[@victorortega2718]

Which way did that belt go ?? 😂😂

[@DJ_Knite]

I just did the same job on my 09 Charger RT, took my time, about 2 weeks it took me, couple of back aches and cursing but got it done. Also changed my alternator, radiator and A/C condenser, exhaust manifold gaskets as well. I started it and lifters still ticking, then my crankshaft sensor went bad.. So now I'm in a pickle cause I gotta unbolt the starter to take the sensor out....smh....Kept my old camshaft as a trophy, lobe on Cylinder #6 took the bite, literally

[@fieromike1]

😮Sounds like you did a pretty big job! Persistence pays off! I don’t know how long you’ve run it, but the engine will sound fairly tickey after the first start for about five minutes or so. And if you actually do need a crankshaft sensor, that should be a piece a cake compared to what you just did! Don’t give up it will run again. Thanks for the comments and please subscribe. 😉

[@DJ_Knite]

​ @fieromike Yeah the ticking went away. Now I had a couple of issues with the camshaft sensor going bad, had a misfire but that was because the intake pushrod wasnt fully seated, fix that issue, now it still wont turn over because the oil pressure sensor is bad. Hopefully fixing it will allow the car to work properly. These sensors are a headache, not to mention dealerships nationwide have been on backorder on sensors. Thankfully Ebay has helped, but time frame in completing this project is now been 2 months. So yeah I'm patiently waiting for this to be over so I can finally drive my car again...

[@DJ_Knite]

@@fieromike1 update I swap the sensors still an issues, might need to bring it to the dealership...If this oil pressure switch doesn't allow it to turn over and clear this misfire. smh

[@mph5896]

@@DJ_Knite Was your timing off?

[@disscustinglybeautiful1652]

We got the same problem but no mechanic wants to tackle it !! Where to find an ambitious mechanic?

[@fieromike1]

I feel your pain. It seems that some mechanics want so much you might as well put a rebuilt engine in. The other issue is to find a mechanic that you trust. They are out there. Wish I could tell you where. Good luck with your project! 😉

[@sts.556]

GOOD JOB , IM GETTING READY TO START ON MY GRANDSONS TRUCK

[@jeremielaflamme3994]

I dont want to be the bearer of bad news but I sincerely hope you didn't re use your head bolts or your camshaft bolt. They are torque to yield.

[@emiliovazquez183]

What do you mean by that? So what happens if you put the same bolts back in? 🤔

[@lkoehnelk]

I HAVE A 2015,cam looked just like this. Had it replaced , must be a defective cam or lifter,my bet would be lifter,but it's always the same lobes.

[@daveflynn4896]

Did you show the lifter replacement ??? Or did I miss it???

[@fieromike1]

Sorry Dave. That was the only part that my camera died on. In both the removal and the installation.

[@dt9094]

Stock bump stick ? Or crane up grade? Thank you great video

[@fieromike1]

Thanks. 😉 I went with stock and I got it from the dealer. I think it was though lifters that wiped out the Lobe and the mechanic at the dealer agrees. They tell me that they have a new supplier for them now so the needle bearings shouldn’t be seizing and wiping out the cam Any more. They also told me that if I used their parts and any of them failed they would replace the engine. If I went with aftermarket parts and something failed that would be all on me. I think it’s funny because it was all their parts the first time when it failed and they wanted nothing to do with it! 😂

[@judyhinckley20]

Would replacing with a new engine be advised so it wouldn’t just be happening all over again down the road?

[@fieromike1]

It depends on how many miles you have on your engine right now. Theoretically, the same thing could happen to a new engine. Also, Chrysler says that they’re getting these parts from a new supplier which means that they’ve fixed the week bearings that are causing the problem with the lifters. As far as Main goes, I got 100,000 miles on the engine since the replacement. Changing the entire engine definitely three times as expensive.

[@Hugo_Umana]

wow... great job and thank you for sharing. Do you have a link where to obtain torques specs

[@fieromike1]

Thanks! I looked for torque specs in many places because each list I saw seamed to be incomplete but here is a link to a video that is helpful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqfEcmeNgd-dhbc Make sure you pay attention to weather it is foot pounds or inch pounds.

[@kenegerton7512]

Looks like you went back with the same failed system. Or did I miss the part where you decided the variable displacement system. I'm going to put all solid lifters in mine , I think.

[@fieromike1]

Yup I used all the same parts. Got them from the dealership. They said the entire engine would be guaranteed if One of their parts failed. If I used after market parts or altered the design I would be on my own. I spent more on parts but the peace of mind is worth it to me. The one selling point to me is that they are using a new distributor for the lifters now. Only time will tell. Maybe I’ll be doing another video in the future. 😂

[@mph5896]

Old comment, but ill bite. MOST of the camshaft replacements I have done, the lifters that fail are the NON AFM lifters. MY hypothesis is they receive less oil flow in comparison to the AFM lifters.

[@richvandervoort2950]

Chrysler updated the lifters in mid 2019. There's isn't any reason to get rid of MDS with the new lifters.

[@jsixamore]

Hey isn’t top dead center also when the chain marks on the phaser and chain line up at 12 o clock, bottom sprocket and simple line up, and the 1st cylinder is flush?

[@fieromike1]

Yes that is all true. However when I was doing it I didn’t have access to the bottom sprocket because I wasn’t removing the oil pump. If I had let the chain go slack it may have jumped a cog in the sprocket without being able to see it. I would have loved to change the oil pump also but it wasn’t available when I did it. 😉

[@jsixamore]

@@fieromike1 honestly just making sure cus that’s all I have right now to know for sure, I replaced the chain. Im trying to figure out the torque spec on the cam phaser bolt cus it says 72 ft lbs but I already torqued it to 90 ft lbs because I read that else where, described as the cam sprocket bolt. Do you know what it’s supposed to be?

[@fieromike1]

@@jsixamore I looked for torque specs in many places because each list I saw seamed to be incomplete but here is a link to a video that is helpful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqfEcmeNgd-dhbc Make sure you pay attention to weather it is foot pounds or inch pounds. Also the harmonic pulley puller was rented (or loaned) from advanced also. Let me know how it’s going or if their is anything else I can do to help.

[@felixgonzalez7765]

Hey u forgot to open the two boxes with the new lifters🙈😳

[@austinwick2941]

Me again lol so I’m running into supply issues mopar only has a cam and 3 of the 4 sets of lifters. No head gasket or anything. Where did you get your parts from?

[@fieromike1]

Wow sorry to hear that. I got everything from the dealership. I would say that the most important thing to get from the dealership is the lifters. That is the part that is causing this issue in the first place and they say that they have a new vendor for them. Who knows where the other lifters are coming from? Then again they are all probably coming from the same place. 😂 Some parts are hard to get rite now. I am waiting for a sway bar for three weeks now.

[@Dp-xf9mo]

Got 06 magnum rt awd I had it rebuilt was a nightmare to put together because awd got it running 3000 dollars was running good 2000 miles then misfire I think 🤔 cam it lifters changed coil packs spark plugs gonna take a loss get ride if it cheap

[@donhill5]

They should have a recall. My Dodge have done 3 rebuilds already.

[@trugritlit6272]

How did you realize it was cam and lifters for certain? I have 2011 also...p0302 code(cylinder 2) replaced ignition coil pack and spark plugs..still got code. No tick yet. I'm sure it is is cam/lifters given the notoriety of this issue, but want to be for certain (before investing 25-30hr labor job)

[@fieromike1]

About one month after I did everything you have done mine started to tick. Taking the valve cover off I’m watching the rockers after you rotate the engine with the starter is a sure way to see if it is the camshaft. However I was 81 1/2% certain it was the camshaft before that. 100% certain after I took the camshaft out. 😉

[@acanfield87]

Nice work. I missed what year your truck is but No. 4 is an MDS cylinder. No surprise there, eh? On my 08 5.7L Hemi Jeep Grand Cherokee it's no 7 that is showing a tick with the stethoscope. Trying to decide what to do...

[@fieromike1]

It’s a 2011. Are you getting a misfire code? If so have you tried swapping the coil pack fuel injector and plugs with another cylinder to see if the trouble code migrates to another cylinder? However if you are getting a definite tick from a specific cylinder you may have already identified It. Swapping out the coil packs is fairly simple though.

[@acanfield87]

@@fieromike1 thanks for the reply! No misfire codes yet so it could be early in the lifter damage cycle. I could run an exhaust leak check to confirm that's not it, but I'm pretty sure what I'm hearing is mechanical and not exhaust.

[@evantharp8169]

Hey man great video, I have a question. Was the truck making a noise almost like an exhaust leak because of this ?

[@fieromike1]

No it definitely sounded like a tick in the valve cover. If you are hearing a tick that sounds like an exhaust leak your ears are most likely not deceiving you. These engines are notorious for breaking the rear bolts on the exhaust manifolds. That is actually going to be my next big project.

[@projectbumblejeep4190]

Great job and love the music. What did you do about the exhaust manifolds? couldn't tell from the first video. I am in the middle of this job on an 04 Durango and can't make up my mind if I want to drop the Y pipe and take the manifolds with the heads or un bolt the manifolds then remove the heads. Thanks for you time. God bless and stay well.

[@fieromike1]

Thanks. I ended up keeping the manifolds on the heads. It was a bit heavier but their were less bolts to mess around with. The manifold bolts are prone to breaking so if you do remove them you should plan on replacing them. Good luck with yours! Keep me posted and let me know what you end up doing or if their is anything else I may be able to help with. 😉

[@BSRugh]

What was your total time involved in this?

[@gibsonn14]

You didn't really just start the engine with that damn piano music BLASTING over it did you?! You know we all wanted to hear the engine start right??? haha not the end of the world but I'm going to have nightmares of that piano now

[@fieromike1]

😂😂😬sorry.

[@josephnobile768]

Small problem, what did the lifter look like? The cylinder 5 one I took out had no roller at all. Aaaaand the bore for the lifter was oblonged.... So my question is how long did this engine repair last?

[@jackmccann7588]

After reading all the post and your comments. One thing stood out. You have mentioned replacing with parts from the dealer. You stated you were told if any one of the parts failed the engine was guaranteed. Did they give you a written warranty? I am getting ready on my 2007 Ram to do the same. if what you say is true then that's the route I will take. Also what was your cost after all was said and done? Thanks for your reply