5.7 HEMI camshaft and lifter replacement (part 2)

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fieromike

fieromike

Күн бұрын

Well I wish that it was going to be just a coil pack but who am I kidding? It’s 2020! The Dodge HEMI 5.7 valve lifters and the camshaft seem to be failing all over the place. Just look at KZbin. Chrysler must know about this. I can’t imagine what it would cost to recall the lifters in all the cars and trucks out there. It really is too bad that there are a lot of people out there, myself included, that are going out and buying vehicles that have just a slight tick in the engine. In my opinion that slight tick is the beginning of an expensive repair. I love getting my hands dirty fixing things. I love the challenge of figuring things out. I also love the fact that there are so many great KZbinrs out there that we can rely on to help us out when we get stuck! I know that I made a lot of references to KZbin while working on this project! I wish you the best of luck in all your projects and thanks for watching!
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@360VRStudios
@360VRStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Out of all the Hemi rebuild videos, yours was educational and fun to watch!
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joshua. That makes me want to go out and work on the truck, or maybe even the Fiero. 😉
@brentfellers9632
@brentfellers9632 3 жыл бұрын
2013, 144,000 kms, #8 intake. half torn down this afternoon. This is definitely one of the better videos on offer. Thanks 😊
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
Well thank you I appreciate you saying so! There was a lot that I had to edit and also a few times where the camera went dead. I’m not a mechanic by trade but if there’s any areas you’re getting hung up on let me know, I would be happy to tell you what I did. Good luck with your project! Let me know how it turns out. 😉
@andrewv4491
@andrewv4491 Жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1is this truck 4/4 because if so how does the oil pan come off
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewv4491 sorry Andrew it is a Four wheel drive and I didn’t even take the oil pan off mine so not entirely sure.
@andrewv4491
@andrewv4491 Жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1did the gasket leak or no?
@andrewv4491
@andrewv4491 Жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 since it wasn’t replaced
@dadgarage7966
@dadgarage7966 11 ай бұрын
It's now a selling point in ads with Hemi-equipped vehicles: "Cam and lifters done . . . ."
@chrisesoldo7627
@chrisesoldo7627 3 жыл бұрын
I might help my brother with this same job on a Durango. He's debating whether to swap the cam and lifters or to get rid of the car completely. I used to be a heavy equipment mechanic and after watching your video, I'm confident that this is the way to go. We'll see soon enough--thanks for sharing!
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I’m sure you’ll be able to pull it off. Fixing it is the way to go with the prices of cars these days. Good luck with it. Let me know how it goes.
@jasoncottier4910
@jasoncottier4910 Жыл бұрын
Love the video!...rather than the loud music a voice over with torque specs and other helpful hints would be greatly appreciated. New to this engine and any and all info is helpful.
@OTR366
@OTR366 4 жыл бұрын
LOL....your video is like watching me tear my truck apart. Unreal....I'm doing the exact job on my 2013 RAM right now one month after you posted this video. My cam looks just like yours and is in the exact same condition on cylinder 4. Mine only has 88K miles. Makes me think there is something to the cam not getting sufficient oil supply like I've read about. Nice job . I'm waiting on back ordered lifters before I can put mine back together.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 4 жыл бұрын
😂 thanks. that’s awesome! I think you may be right. The hemi is a great engine but it seams to be unforgiving if you are a minute late with the oil change 😆. If you have the time, the one thing I wished I’d done was change out the exhaust manifold bolts. I have developed a slight leak that seams to go away after it heats up. Maybe that will be a future video if it gets worse. Be safe and Good luck with yours!
@gregorytimmons4777
@gregorytimmons4777 3 жыл бұрын
Don't put stock lifters in it. Go with Johnson lifters or Hellcat lifters.
@powersww1reset
@powersww1reset 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregorytimmons4777 thanks, I’m about to do this on my 2013 also. Any other advice would always be appreciated, as well.
@gregorytimmons4777
@gregorytimmons4777 3 жыл бұрын
@@powersww1reset Well, i always used to put my new ones in a coffee can with enough new clean oil of the type run in the engine and left like that over night before assembly. I'd check what the lifter bores look like and if questionable hone them a minimal amount to improve the surface inside the bores without over doing it and creating too much clearance.
@greghaener9380
@greghaener9380 3 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain 2013 with 130000 miles #1 lifter went bad and destroyed the cam. Spend the extra money and get some good lifters!!!
@mechanicdave4899
@mechanicdave4899 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for getting back to me! This makes me pleased to know I Don’t have to remove the pan to remove oil pump and pickup tube.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
I totally know how you feel. I was thinking that in itself was a huge project. Just be sure you don’t drop anything in the top of the pan after you take off the timing chain cover. Good luck with it and I hope you have a warm place to work. It’s getting a bit cold in NY.
@mechanicdave4899
@mechanicdave4899 3 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 I have a mechanic shop, all data wasn’t very clear lol thank you for your help!!!
@ksladerock4465
@ksladerock4465 2 жыл бұрын
I put a hellcat oil pump while replacing my cam and lifters. On the Ram trucks the pickup tube screen is to the back of the pan and bolted underneath the engine so I had to drop my pan to replace the oil pump. Huge pain in the ass . Had to drop the front differential. Jacking the engine wouldn't give me enough room to drop the pan.
@MrUGA2010
@MrUGA2010 2 жыл бұрын
wow what a video; I witnessed today another damage of the camshaft at one dodge in the shop; that's why im here and subscribed; his was damaged even worse than yours; All the best and keep that engine running!
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome and thanks for watching. It really is crazy how many of these have this problem. My latest Was a complete transmission rebuild. That was way out of my league so I had to have somebody else do it.
@zekemontgomery6678
@zekemontgomery6678 2 жыл бұрын
Have my 2010 torn down. Waiting on parts. 200k truck. Thanks for the video
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Hope it all works out.
@johnjenkins2024
@johnjenkins2024 2 жыл бұрын
living dangerously not replacing crankseal & waterpump with that many miles when you were right there . alot of work to get back to them.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
I agree it may have seemed like I was close to that crank seal but I was actually miles away. It would’ve required the removal of the oil pan which was absolutely no easy task given the frame holding the engine would have to be removed and also the oil pump. At that point the timing chain would’ve come off. However I do look at the project and say “ I wish I changed the timing chain, oil pump and crank seal “ but then I justify it by saying I was still miles away from getting to them. It is the battle I have in my mind constantly.😂 Anyway it’s still running strong 50,000 miles later. Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting.😉
@johnjenkins2024
@johnjenkins2024 2 жыл бұрын
I meant the front crank seal.and water pump but i hear what your saying.@@fieromike1
@davem5333
@davem5333 3 жыл бұрын
Starting up is the best music. Which way for the belt? It's obvious. Smooth to smooth, groove to groove.
@johnsont963
@johnsont963 Ай бұрын
absolutely great job!!! may have to do this for a friend....
@larrymitchell546
@larrymitchell546 3 жыл бұрын
I just have my 2014 Ram done in January , it had 103,000 on it , cam , rollers , bent push rod and a bent valve , l also did the mds delete .
@rshine65
@rshine65 Ай бұрын
I’m doing this to my 2013 right now. Ran the engine VERY hard since I was late for a MD appointment three years ago had some slight noise after that but no issues until last year with p0306 code showing up intermittently. Had some mechanics look at it and 1st guy couldn’t figure out what was wrong, took to another guy he said lifters and camshaft needed to be replaced. Almost made it to 200k with no issues…but I did it to myself, so oh well!😂. Heehawed around until October this year started missing bad. Bit the bullet and spent the money to just do it myself. $5900 shop parts and labor vs $1300 for parts. Found lifter in 6 cylinder slightly worn. Thanksgiving week not doing anything, but next week is finish up week.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 Ай бұрын
@@rshine65 😂 sounds just like me except mine didn’t last that long. You got this! It’s actually a fun project. I spent about $2000 on all the parts and fluids and such but I got them directly from the dealership. Thanks for watching. Good luck!
@rshine65
@rshine65 Ай бұрын
@ It has been 40 years since I worked on an engine internally and I am enjoying the process. I am having so much fun just figuring things out!
@joshkrause2977
@joshkrause2977 3 жыл бұрын
During MDS operation the same four cylinders are always shut down. They are 1, 4, 6, and 7. My ram has 120k but I always bypass the mds. On the 8 speed transmissions using the gear selectors on the steering wheel disables the mds. All I do is before I drive while the truck is in drive press gear - once then gear + until 8, the trans will shift normal as well.
@BWADaniel
@BWADaniel 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently that will cause your lifters to prematurely fail. Mine just did it and blew the motor at 133k miles. Rebuilding it now lol. When you have MDS off, the solenoid fucking blocks the flow of oil to your Non MDS lifters, it’s the stupidest shit ever! There’s a few videos on it.. Chrysler literally designed the engine to become less lubricated unless MDS is left alone / ON. So don’t turn your MDS off until you do an MDS delete with the solenoid delete. Then you can feel safe.
@jsixamore
@jsixamore Жыл бұрын
Hey isn’t top dead center also when the chain marks on the phaser and chain line up at 12 o clock, bottom sprocket and simple line up, and the 1st cylinder is flush?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 Жыл бұрын
Yes that is all true. However when I was doing it I didn’t have access to the bottom sprocket because I wasn’t removing the oil pump. If I had let the chain go slack it may have jumped a cog in the sprocket without being able to see it. I would have loved to change the oil pump also but it wasn’t available when I did it. 😉
@jsixamore
@jsixamore Жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 honestly just making sure cus that’s all I have right now to know for sure, I replaced the chain. Im trying to figure out the torque spec on the cam phaser bolt cus it says 72 ft lbs but I already torqued it to 90 ft lbs because I read that else where, described as the cam sprocket bolt. Do you know what it’s supposed to be?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 Жыл бұрын
@@jsixamore I looked for torque specs in many places because each list I saw seamed to be incomplete but here is a link to a video that is helpful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqfEcmeNgd-dhbc Make sure you pay attention to weather it is foot pounds or inch pounds. Also the harmonic pulley puller was rented (or loaned) from advanced also. Let me know how it’s going or if their is anything else I can do to help.
@DependableAutoTruck
@DependableAutoTruck Жыл бұрын
most of us around here in southeast alabama run Shell Rotella in the Hemi's seems to work better it still has ZINC in it which is good for engines. i know you are about to say thats diesel oil yes it is and its a better oil. everyone i put a cam and lifters in leaves my shop with Shell Rotella in it with a Wix filter. but i will have to say we see just as many LS engines with the same problem. its odd i service a fleet of dodge 3500 series trucks single rear wheels they run amsoil in theirs they sold one the other day with 620,000 only thing done to engine was tune ups oil changes and water pumps so far have several with over 300,000 miles they have never had any camshaft lifter failure so far
@jakes.5591
@jakes.5591 10 ай бұрын
Did those fleet rams have hemi engines or Cummins?
@davidsimmons2148
@davidsimmons2148 3 жыл бұрын
Great job on the video. So far, knock on wood, I’m ok with188,000 on my 2016. I hear a tick, but not bad yet. I will mark this one. Really loved the sound track.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you. 🤞
@andrewkimble749
@andrewkimble749 2 жыл бұрын
At the end of the video it still sounds like it’s ticking a lil I could be wrong but great job!🎉
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
😂 thanks. You are right. Except it was not just a little. It was ticking like a clock shop! After you put these back together on the first start up all of the lifters and rods need to settle in and it will rattle a whole bunch for about five minutes. It is actually kind of scary to hear for the first time if you don’t expect it. 😂
@ReyCondo
@ReyCondo 2 ай бұрын
Good morning, friend, very good video, What torque do the camshaft cover bolts have? Thanks.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 ай бұрын
@@ReyCondo I looked for torque specs in many places because each list I saw seamed to be incomplete but here is a link to a video that is helpful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqfEcmeNgd-dhbc Make sure you pay attention to weather it is foot pounds or inch pounds
@360VRStudios
@360VRStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Simple engines, what fun to rebuild one and resell it.
@achakus101
@achakus101 3 жыл бұрын
Any idea where I can find a manual to rebuild this engine??
@jasongreek2342
@jasongreek2342 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I have a feeling I'll be into this at some point in the not-too-distant future. Looks like the only tools I'm missing is the harmonic balancer puller and a fuel line tool. Looks like I'll need (besides lifters and a camshaft) intake gasket, head gaskets, valve cover gaskets, timing cover gasket, water pump gasket, assembly grease, probably RTV, I suspect I need a thermostat too (unrelated), exhaust manifold gaskets, and if there's gaskets for the outlet of the exhaust manifolds... oh, I should do the 02 sensor that's bad while I'm at it...
@knightech2508
@knightech2508 Жыл бұрын
Get a new oil pump if you're going to go through the trouble of this repair, the stock oil pumps drop below 15 psi at idle and don't supply enough oil to the lifters, so you'll have this happen again if you don't. Melling makes an aftermarket pump that performs like a gen 4 pump. The oil pump from the 6.1 of this model year also fits, so that's an option as well. Either way, if you want your repair to last, you will need a new oil pump as well. Cheers.
@Dodge_Hemi
@Dodge_Hemi 3 жыл бұрын
Great work. I am about to embark on this project on my 2007 Durango. Thanks for posting this.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ganash. Good lunch with the Durango. I hope you have someplace warm to work on it. 😉
@Dodge_Hemi
@Dodge_Hemi 3 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 Its going to get a bit warmer here in Cincinnati soon. I replaced the solenoids 6 months ago, and now I have this MDS tick, cylinders 7 and 4 misfiring. I am sure the camshaft has taken some beating. I am thinking of eliminating the MDS system altogether with CompCams' camshaft and Hellcat non-MDS lifters - same engine as yours but non-vvt. Why did you go the factory route and replace it with the same system?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dodge_Hemi I went for factory parts from the dealership for two reasons. First was I wanted to be sure I was putting the right parts in the engine. Second was the dealership was willing to back up their parts and replace the entire engine if need be due to a failure of their parts. There were no guarantees for anything if I use anything other than original parts. I have been told by the dealership that they now have a new distributor for the lifter bearings but it is my feeling that it is an oil problem anyway.
@537delight
@537delight 2 жыл бұрын
spectacular job wow
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you!
@vipertv6010
@vipertv6010 2 жыл бұрын
My friend did you remove tje oil pan as Well ?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@bernardsavard493
@bernardsavard493 Жыл бұрын
Thanks-you, it was very well done and easy to follow. Lower the music though.
@gman123167
@gman123167 3 жыл бұрын
Great job... I have 175000 miles on my 09 and see the same thing in my future. Already had 4 lifters replaced and the mechanic said the cam was fine (right). Thanks for sharing.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. That’s too bad. I would think that if the lifter failed to the point that you needed to replace it the cam must have taken a beating, let alone three. But what do I really know? I’m a carpenter 😂. Good luck with it! Thanks for subscribing!!!
@gregorytimmons4777
@gregorytimmons4777 3 жыл бұрын
It's possible if you caught it right away. I think a roller lifter could work on a lobe that was slightly less than pristine provided it rolls freely of course.
@kendallwidner3503
@kendallwidner3503 2 жыл бұрын
As many camshaft issues I have seen on KZbin and read about in automotive forums, I think there needs to be a class actiin lawsuit against Dodge. I just found out I need a camshaft in my 2012 Ram only 160,000 miles which is really low. Way more than yours but seems as if the camshaft is junk on several year models.
@ksladerock4465
@ksladerock4465 2 жыл бұрын
Just replaced cam and lifters in my 2012 Ram with 140,000 miles. (My cam was good) had 1 lifter with bad roller bearing. It was squeeking like a belt. Lot of play in the roller.
@kendallwidner3503
@kendallwidner3503 2 жыл бұрын
@@ksladerock4465 I haven't torn into mine yet. Got the misfire #3 replaced all the coil packs and spark plugs. Fuel milage went from 16 to 21mpg after 75 mile drive check engine light came on again. Took it to a shop, Mountain Home Car Care in Mountain Home Idaho, they said I need a new engine $10,500. Hahahaha
@kendallwidner3503
@kendallwidner3503 Жыл бұрын
I've got a very rare liver lung disease called alpha one antitrypsin deficiency disease, and need a lung transplant. In my small town, Mountain Home Idaho, I couldn't find a shop that would change my cam and lifters, they all wanted to do a new engine. Frustrating as heck because I was getting 16mpg in town and on freeway at 80mph. 18-19mpg at 55-60mph. I got an average of 19.6 on a trip to Texas. I got the misfire code on #3 changed coil packs and plugs, made a 60 mile round trip at 55mph and my milage went up to 21.9. Next day drove 60 miles onr way at 80 mph, got 18.5 mpg. Parked 2 hours fired it up, check engine light came back on. Misfire #3. Started researching and found all these cam issues. If my health was better I would have changed the cam and lifters myself. I ended up buying a brand new factory hemi with 3 year, 100,000 mile warranty installed for $9000. My gas mileage is 12-13 at 80mph and around town. I made the same Texas trip and averaged 18.5. Really disappointing because I know all I needed was cam and lifters. I stopped by after he got old engine out and I pulled the oil control valve, spotless, not a speck of metal or silver anywhere.
@bjjetrich
@bjjetrich 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vids. Like the jazz. Like the mech tips.
@alangoddard8152
@alangoddard8152 Жыл бұрын
Just had my 2018 ram have a roller fail at 85,000 miles despite RELIGIOUS oil changes every 3000 miles since i bought it new. Rumor is they are cheaply produced in china with poor metallurgy. I’ve even heard of them coming fresh out of the box missing a needle bearing. I caught the lifter tick early and was just going to replace my lifters but this video makes me think its going to need a cam as well. I dont have the dreaded misfire but its probably only a matter of time if I don’t address it now
@francomartin5388
@francomartin5388 3 ай бұрын
Hi friend, I've seen your video a thousand times and I'm following your steps. I'm doing the same job on my 2012 RAM 1500 5.7 hemi and I need a favor, if you don't mind, what torque did you use on each screw of each piece when assembling it? Please, I can't find the torques for my RAM and I've had my RAM disassembled for almost a month now, ready to be assembled, but I'm not risking doing it until I have the exact torques down to the last screw. Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience. Good day. PS: I'm not a mechanic, I'm an amateur!
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 ай бұрын
@@francomartin5388 Thanks for all the views! Sorry to respond so late. It took about 25 to 30 hours of labor for me. I suppose that includes stopping to look up things on KZbin. So I understand your concern. Thank god we have KZbin! I am a carpenter by trade so this was a challenging project but a welcomed change of scenery. Their was nothing much more than your basic mechanics set of sockets, wrenches, screwdrivers and a few torque wrenches. The only tool I “borrowed” (free rental) from advanced auto parts was the harmonic pulley puller. Which I needed to put three nuts bolts and washers on to remove the pulley. The fuel line disconnect tool was kind of a specialty tool but it was off the shelf at the auto parts store for less than $10. The pneumatic tools are handy but not necessary. I looked for torque specs in many places because each list I saw seamed to be incomplete but here is a link to a video that is helpful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqfEcmeNgd-dhbc Make sure you pay attention to weather it is foot pounds or inch pounds If you have any questions, just reach out. You got this!!!👍
@francomartin5388
@francomartin5388 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I'll let you know how it went. Very kind of you to help me. Thanks​@@fieromike1
@SamuelRSands
@SamuelRSands Жыл бұрын
Do you have a link for the complete camshaft kit?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 Жыл бұрын
I got all the parts that I used from the dealership because I wanted to ensure that I was getting what was intended for the truck. I was also told by them that they are now using a “new vender”for the lifters. I hope that it makes a difference. It cost about $1800. I’m sure I could have got them cheaper but I was willing to pay for the peace of mind that I was getting the rite parts. Two new head gaskets, valve cover gaskets, timing chain cover gasket, water pump gasket, camshaft, lifters, and I ended up needing to replace one ever so slightly bend lifter rod ($4). The rod that was bent was unsurprisingly from the same lifter that went bad. One other thing you may end up needing to get would be exhaust manifold gaskets and new exhaust manifold bolts. I did my best to keep them attached to the heads when I removed them. The bolts that hold on the exhaust manifolds are quite often already snapped. That is why most people who have a HEMI Hear the “HEMI Tick” until the engine warms up and expands the exhaust manifold enough to seal the leak. It took about 25 to 30 hours of labor. I suppose that includes stopping to look up things on KZbin. Thank god we have KZbin! I am a carpenter by trade so this was a challenging project but a welcomed change of scenery. Good luck with yours.😉
@javierbustamante7903
@javierbustamante7903 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2014 ram 5.7 one cilinder n3 have a 80 lb of comprensión and give me a miss Fire, how many cost the repair for change the lifters and camshaft?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
Parts were about $1800.
@vipertv6010
@vipertv6010 2 жыл бұрын
My friend when I put the rocket arms back on my engine it got so hard to turn it by hand yours was the same Or something's wrong with mine?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
Mine did not get hard to turn by hand. It sounds like possibly the bolt is misthreading on yours. Is it the same with all of them? Were they difficult to take out?
@vipertv6010
@vipertv6010 2 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 No what I meant is I turned by hand to check all the pushrods if they are in place but it was so hard to turn it by hand I had to do a lot of force to turn it by hand
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
@@vipertv6010 oh sorry I misunderstood. I remember just being able to crank the engine over with a half inch ratchet I don’t think I even used a breaker bar. 4:41
@adamwaugh8062
@adamwaugh8062 3 жыл бұрын
I was on somebody else the channel they said you had to take the oil Pan off is this true
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
No. Mainly because I did not change the oil pump. I have always had a magnet on the oil plug (metal shavings on it was one of the reasons I knew I had a cam issue). However I saw a video where they changed the pump without dropping the pan. I also rinsed out the pan from the top before the timing cover went back on.
@donaldchapman8392
@donaldchapman8392 3 ай бұрын
I am doing this right now. Any worries about not a full engine rebuild or the metal shavings damaging bearings, etc? I do not have any way to pull the motor and send it out for a rebuild. I am going to replace the cam, lifters, timing chain, oil pump, water pump (may as well). I will change the oild and filter after cam breakin and then again after 2 or 3 hundred miles. Thoughts?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 ай бұрын
@@donaldchapman8392 honestly you’re doing a heck of a lot more than I did. I was in contact with a longtime mechanic friend of mine during my whole project. He basically said that if less than two lobes were wiped out not to worry about the amount of filings that would be in the rest of the motor. That was 130,000 miles ago and my engine is still running strong. I didn’t even change out the oil pump. Same as you, I did an oil change and then another after 300 miles. It never really showed the glitter in the oil even when I dumped it before I did the project. Most people that do this project don’t end up needing to do a full engine rebuild so I think you’re heading in the right direction. Good luck!
@donaldchapman8392
@donaldchapman8392 3 ай бұрын
@@fieromike1 Hi, thanks for the reply and information! I feel a bit better about the whole thing. From what I can tell, (I only have the left head off today) it is only cylinder 5 and 1 cam lobe. It is not 100% gone as the valve still opened slightly, enough that if you drove like a 99 YO granny it would seem to run fine. Best
@edjackson4389
@edjackson4389 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had that much room to work on my 5.7 Hemi. The engines aren't hard to wrench on, but under the hood of a Grand Cherokee space is tight
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that would be a bit tight. On the bright side, once you get all the radiators and the grill out of the way, you won’t have to climb up it in every 10 minutes. I guess everything has its pros and cons. Good luck with your project!
@radelarosa97
@radelarosa97 3 жыл бұрын
I got mine fix last year, now just a week ago it’s misfiring cylinder 6, and it’s the lifter again lol. I fixed it at 150,000miles and now it only has 157,000 and it’s down. Never again I would take it too a shop, spent 2,500. I’ll just do it myself, just need the time. Glad she’s alive!
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
😢 that’s the worst one yet. Sorry to hear that. Only 7k miles. Is it the same cylinder?
@radelarosa97
@radelarosa97 3 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 Last time it was cylinder 8 but now it’s 6.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
@@radelarosa97 well at least Chrysler is telling us that they have a “new distributor” for the roller bearings now. I hope it all works out for you. It truly is a shame because I really do like this truck. Keep me posted please. I would like to someday do a follow up Video on My truck and all D responses did I have been getting.
@joshkrause2977
@joshkrause2977 3 жыл бұрын
Get rid of the mds system and lifters when you do.
@daveflynn4896
@daveflynn4896 3 жыл бұрын
Did you show the lifter replacement ??? Or did I miss it???
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry Dave. That was the only part that my camera died on. In both the removal and the installation.
@michaelbortz5845
@michaelbortz5845 2 жыл бұрын
I have 224k on my 2016 and am getting the misfire #2 cylinder code as well as a recent tick., Replaced the coil but the code came back. Fortunately, I purchased the lifetime warranty so it will be going to a dealership for repairs. Not the dealership I bought the truck from though. The last time I took it to them they tried to say I needed a wheel speed sensor and ABS module which are covered but claimed they weren't covered because the ABS wiring in the bumper was damaged and wanted $1300 to fix it. I said don't do anything I'm coming to get the truck. He said don't you want it fixed? I said yes but the ABS wiring doesn't go through the bumper so I know your lying. I picked up the truck and the codes had been cleared and never came back. That was 80,000 miles ago.
@SWATT101
@SWATT101 2 жыл бұрын
I think I have "the" tic...should I wait on it throwing a code?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that The longer you wait the more filings enter the rest of the engine.
@wadesaunders583
@wadesaunders583 4 жыл бұрын
How the heck do you remember to put it back together!
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 4 жыл бұрын
😂 that’s half the reason I recorded it.
@arizonaguy7574
@arizonaguy7574 4 жыл бұрын
Baggies & a Sharpie
@Kurtz6603
@Kurtz6603 4 жыл бұрын
@@arizonaguy7574 And at times painters tape with letter code lol. I use to tape connectors and put A B C on them.
@vidalgranados126
@vidalgranados126 3 жыл бұрын
Good question
@vipertv6010
@vipertv6010 2 жыл бұрын
My friend my track is done I finish I thank you so much for your video it helped me a lot my truck is running smooth I replace all the exhaust bolts new water pump new camshaft new lifters. New harmonic balancer because I broke the original one taking it out🤪
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! What an achievement. That is no small task. You should be proud of yourself. I’m glad the video was helpful. The one thing I wish I did was the manifold bolts. 🤔Maybe that will be another video 😬
@vipertv6010
@vipertv6010 2 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 Yes I knew those would be an issue one was broken I have to take it out from the heads that's right I replaced them for a new ones
@judyhinckley20
@judyhinckley20 Жыл бұрын
Would replacing with a new engine be advised so it wouldn’t just be happening all over again down the road?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 Жыл бұрын
It depends on how many miles you have on your engine right now. Theoretically, the same thing could happen to a new engine. Also, Chrysler says that they’re getting these parts from a new supplier which means that they’ve fixed the week bearings that are causing the problem with the lifters. As far as Main goes, I got 100,000 miles on the engine since the replacement. Changing the entire engine definitely three times as expensive.
@chrisabreedapartnyhc5337
@chrisabreedapartnyhc5337 4 жыл бұрын
Wow Great vid.!!I wish I had the balls to do it myself if or when I need it,I’m sure I can take it apart but getting it back together is another story lol
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I seriously started to doubt myself after I took the chain cover off. I was thinking what did I get myself into? But there was no turning back.
@vidalgranados126
@vidalgranados126 3 жыл бұрын
Just pay close atention, make sure put,every,thing back
@edlehman7420
@edlehman7420 2 жыл бұрын
My 11 mega 2500 had cam done at 140,000 by the dealer at 192 and here we go again, I`m going with a long block from Frasers.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that sucks! My biggest issue right now is the struts. I have replaced them three times and it still feels like I’m on a life raft in rough seas at about 60mph. Someone needs to start having some pride in what they are making or we’re all going to be walking soon.
@christopherbrown3785
@christopherbrown3785 3 жыл бұрын
Im doing the same job on my charger tomorrow but im going to change my oil pump and chain while im in there. With all that scraping on your cam there has got to be finite metal shavings in your pump.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt there’s probably metal shavings jammed in every bearing inside the engine. 😂 I did this project while in constant contact with a mechanic friend of mine. I showed him the camshaft before closing everything up. Basically if there was more than one lobe that had been wiped out I would have also changed the oil pump. I’ve always kept magnets the bottom of the oil pan. They did have shavings on them. And yes I probably should’ve change the chain. But I definitely need something to do for the next video. I hope you have a nice dry warm place to work on the car. I wish you the best of luck. Let me know how it turns out.
@austinwick2941
@austinwick2941 2 жыл бұрын
Me again lol so I’m running into supply issues mopar only has a cam and 3 of the 4 sets of lifters. No head gasket or anything. Where did you get your parts from?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
Wow sorry to hear that. I got everything from the dealership. I would say that the most important thing to get from the dealership is the lifters. That is the part that is causing this issue in the first place and they say that they have a new vendor for them. Who knows where the other lifters are coming from? Then again they are all probably coming from the same place. 😂 Some parts are hard to get rite now. I am waiting for a sway bar for three weeks now.
@chrisbrum1374
@chrisbrum1374 Жыл бұрын
Any updates on how it’s running? Same job!
@fredm2786
@fredm2786 Жыл бұрын
So did you replace the lifters? 😮
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 Жыл бұрын
Yes unfortunately it was the only part that the camera didn’t record 😝
@dt9094
@dt9094 3 жыл бұрын
Stock bump stick ? Or crane up grade? Thank you great video
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. 😉 I went with stock and I got it from the dealer. I think it was though lifters that wiped out the Lobe and the mechanic at the dealer agrees. They tell me that they have a new supplier for them now so the needle bearings shouldn’t be seizing and wiping out the cam Any more. They also told me that if I used their parts and any of them failed they would replace the engine. If I went with aftermarket parts and something failed that would be all on me. I think it’s funny because it was all their parts the first time when it failed and they wanted nothing to do with it! 😂
@jeffjones8955
@jeffjones8955 4 жыл бұрын
I'm in jersey I need this done on my 2013 jeep grand cherokee overland 5.7
@GarySmythe
@GarySmythe 4 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about purchasing a 2021 Grand Cherokee Overland with a 5.7 hemi. Do you think they've made improvements to the engine so this cam and lifter problem is corrected?
@victorortega2718
@victorortega2718 5 ай бұрын
Where are you located ? Got a 2017 ram 1500 sport, fixed the eng manifold exhaust leak a few weeks ago had 3 broken bolts, but if i ever get the lifter tick might come your way lol wish you had a step by step detailed vid I do it my self bit its prob too long for yt youd be a life saver for millions tho lol
@acanfield87
@acanfield87 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work. I missed what year your truck is but No. 4 is an MDS cylinder. No surprise there, eh? On my 08 5.7L Hemi Jeep Grand Cherokee it's no 7 that is showing a tick with the stethoscope. Trying to decide what to do...
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a 2011. Are you getting a misfire code? If so have you tried swapping the coil pack fuel injector and plugs with another cylinder to see if the trouble code migrates to another cylinder? However if you are getting a definite tick from a specific cylinder you may have already identified It. Swapping out the coil packs is fairly simple though.
@acanfield87
@acanfield87 3 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 thanks for the reply! No misfire codes yet so it could be early in the lifter damage cycle. I could run an exhaust leak check to confirm that's not it, but I'm pretty sure what I'm hearing is mechanical and not exhaust.
@MrFifth-up9jz
@MrFifth-up9jz 4 жыл бұрын
You are a true artist! Amazing job
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Much appreciated!
@kingbeastro
@kingbeastro 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit confused about your last bit about not attaching the exhaust manifold for firing it up. I am assuming you left the manifolds attached to the headers when you removed the heads and then forgot to bolt the exhaust manifold back up to the pipe at the end? I don't think you showed the disconnect. I'm about pull the heads and I'm thinking that's what I'm going to do. Thanks for the video! Big help!
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that’s exactly right. I disconnected the pipes from the manifold. And removed the heads with the manifolds attached. It was about 1 AM when I started it up and my neighbors house is only 15 feet from mine. 🤪Good luck with yours!
@kingbeastro
@kingbeastro 3 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 I just finished up this job. Hooking the exhaust back up was my last bit as well and I thought about your vid. Bolting it back sure was alot easier than getting it loose! Thanks again.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingbeastro That’s awesome! Glad to hear you got it done. I totally agree those bolts went back in much easier than they came out. Quite a lot of rust. Congratulations on a job well done!👍😉I wish I had kept my camshaft. I would’ve used it to make a barstool for the garage.
@kingbeastro
@kingbeastro 3 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 I'm gonna settle for the stuck lifter as a paper weight.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingbeastro 😂 that will work. Was that the problem? Was the cam shaft ok?
@jeanrossignol-nn6gj
@jeanrossignol-nn6gj 6 ай бұрын
curious how long the whole job took you!
@brandonmorgan2467
@brandonmorgan2467 2 жыл бұрын
Hey mike, I’m fixing to have to do this job on my 09 5.7 hemi. Any tips or tricks. And would you mind letting me know where you found all your torque specs for everything. Anything I should consider while doing this job, and last but not least what is best to keep timing in order and what special tools might I need before I get started. Thanks!
@DependableAutoTruck
@DependableAutoTruck Жыл бұрын
summit has a torque chart that is really nice
@stivic923
@stivic923 Жыл бұрын
What were the torque specs used for the head bolts? Awesome videos BTW.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! It took about 25 to 30 hours of labor. I suppose that includes stopping to look up things on KZbin. Thank god we have KZbin! I am a carpenter by trade so this was a challenging project but a welcomed change of scenery. Their was nothing much more than your basic mechanics set of sockets, wrenches, screwdrivers and a few torque wrenches. The only tool I “borrowed” (free rental) from advanced auto parts was the harmonic pulley puller. Which I needed to put three nuts bolts and washers on to remove the pulley. The fuel line disconnect tool was kind of a specialty tool but it was off the shelf at the auto parts store for less than $10. The pneumatic tools are handy but not necessary. I looked for torque specs in many places because each list I saw seamed to be incomplete but here is a link to a video that is helpful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqfEcmeNgd-dhbc Make sure you pay attention to weather it is foot pounds or inch pounds. Good luck with yours. Let me know if their is anything else that I can help you with. 😉
@stivic923
@stivic923 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the quick reply. I have my 2012 ram 1500 torn down. #5 is the hole that took the hit. Wore the lobe clear off the camshaft .
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 Жыл бұрын
@@stivic923 not a problem. I just happen to have picked up my phone and saw that you left a comment. Sorry to hear that happened. Make sure you check obviously for shavings in the oil pan if you have completely wiped off a Lobe. You may need to replace the oil pump, if there is an abundance of filings in the oil
@Hugo_Umana
@Hugo_Umana 3 жыл бұрын
wow... great job and thank you for sharing. Do you have a link where to obtain torques specs
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I looked for torque specs in many places because each list I saw seamed to be incomplete but here is a link to a video that is helpful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqfEcmeNgd-dhbc Make sure you pay attention to weather it is foot pounds or inch pounds.
@marcorafael312
@marcorafael312 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing dude i have the same problem with my 2012 Sport, with 201 thousand miles, at this point not even know if it worth to fix, cause I'm not Mechanical driven to do it myself. The first symptoms started about the same milage as yours, over time got worse... i started with po303 to a multiple miss fire
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. If you have put close to 100k Miles on it with a bad camshaft I would just swap out the entire engine now. 😉
@LarryReynolds591
@LarryReynolds591 3 жыл бұрын
It's just the MDS. Best indication is that this happens to about 5% of Hemi engines. Chevy has massive issues with their lifters in their MDS engines too.
@joshkrause2977
@joshkrause2977 3 жыл бұрын
Yep mds lifters are junk.
@jeremysimpson5155
@jeremysimpson5155 3 жыл бұрын
5%? seems to be like 50%. There is a whole industry set on the failures of the hemi, and LS DOD failures. I am in the middle of this job right now, and have found out i have a 2nd failing lifter. Going with hellcat lifers, and dumping the whole MDS BS.
@ayyliljessie3704
@ayyliljessie3704 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeremysimpson5155 how did it work for you
@jeremysimpson5155
@jeremysimpson5155 3 жыл бұрын
@@ayyliljessie3704 worked great! put in the diablo tuner, helcat cam and lifters. Expensive job. But nothing too hard to do.
@jeremysimpson5155
@jeremysimpson5155 3 жыл бұрын
@@ayyliljessie3704 I got lucky, and the lifter didnt damage the cam, but i was there, and i put a new one in anyway.
@thrashpandaentertainment7013
@thrashpandaentertainment7013 3 жыл бұрын
when i swap my cam out,its definitely going to be kept as a trophy
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
😂 I look back now and it definitely would have been worth the hundred bucks!
@curval233
@curval233 3 жыл бұрын
what about the metal shavings in the oil and babott main and rod and cam bearings isnt that an issue?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. How many cylinders are you misfiring on?Have you removed your cam shaft yet?
@josephnobile768
@josephnobile768 Жыл бұрын
Small problem, what did the lifter look like? The cylinder 5 one I took out had no roller at all. Aaaaand the bore for the lifter was oblonged.... So my question is how long did this engine repair last?
@WilliamBush1967
@WilliamBush1967 3 жыл бұрын
so what was your total time in hours for this project
@DoonerF
@DoonerF 3 жыл бұрын
Is there an update? Want to know how it’s going.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
Well it’s been a year and it’s still running great. Now I just need to do the struts. Thanks for watching. 😉
@NasserBatieha
@NasserBatieha 4 жыл бұрын
Great job bro! You made the whole process look easy
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I probably spent 6 hours editing out all the knuckle busting and swearing. 😂
@Spoofaged
@Spoofaged 2 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 how long in total did the swap take you? I'm another lucky ram owner about to fondle it's cam shaft...
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Spoofaged It took about 25 to 30 hours of labor. I suppose that includes stopping to look up things on KZbin. Thank god we have KZbin! I am a carpenter by trade so this was a challenging project but a welcomed change of scenery. Wow you’re going to fondle the camshaft!? I suppose that means you must identify as a HEMI owner. 😂
@Spoofaged
@Spoofaged 2 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 haha hey, 25-30 with watching AND making videos sounds about reasonable. Now you have people looking you up on KZbin thanks to our WeLL DeSignEd hemis 🤔 I love the truck so I guess performing a little surgery won't kill me... Maybe lol thanks for the reply man!
@SovereignKnight74
@SovereignKnight74 4 жыл бұрын
What year is this truck? I hear the 2019 and newer models have this issue resolved.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 4 жыл бұрын
It is a 2011. I would hope thy do. Let’s wait and see after they have 100k on them before we let them say they fixed it though. 😬
@index6738
@index6738 4 жыл бұрын
Fixed in 2016
@SovereignKnight74
@SovereignKnight74 4 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 I ask this because if somehow I managed to get a Dodge Challenger 5.7 R/T, I would not want to be stuck with the paranoia of owning somthing that will fail and cost allot of money to fix.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 4 жыл бұрын
@@SovereignKnight74 I would say by the charger and enjoy it! Life is too short to be paranoid about things that haven’t happened.
@gabrielmovers8689
@gabrielmovers8689 2 жыл бұрын
I got a 2022 Ram 6.4 L don't tell me that's going to happen to mine or it's more on the 5.7 Hemi
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
More of a Hemi thing. 😉
@seancostello7070
@seancostello7070 2 жыл бұрын
So, what were the symptoms of a bad camshaft? I have a feeling I have a wiped lobe on my 2012 Ram, but it doesn’t make any noise, just runs like crap.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
Well the symptoms that I had were headaches, loss of taste and smell… …..no wait, that was last month. The camshaft was definitely causing a ticking at first and then it started to show a misfire code. I was of course in denial because I have been very diligent with the oil changes and I don’t drive it hard at all but the cam shaft was the proof. With any luck you may have a vacuum leak or something simple. I hear that the CDC has a vaccine for it now but most truck drivers are too stubborn to… …wait, that’s the wrong subject again. Anyway, good luck with yours and be safe. 😉
@seancostello7070
@seancostello7070 2 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 I see you have a video of Jim’s Dock, are you a RI’er?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
@@seancostello7070 yes every summer for the past 35 years. I live in NY. How about yourself?
@seancostello7070
@seancostello7070 2 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 born and raised in lil Rhody
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
@@seancostello7070 😂 that’s awesome!
@trugritlit6272
@trugritlit6272 3 жыл бұрын
How did you realize it was cam and lifters for certain? I have 2011 also...p0302 code(cylinder 2) replaced ignition coil pack and spark plugs..still got code. No tick yet. I'm sure it is is cam/lifters given the notoriety of this issue, but want to be for certain (before investing 25-30hr labor job)
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
About one month after I did everything you have done mine started to tick. Taking the valve cover off I’m watching the rockers after you rotate the engine with the starter is a sure way to see if it is the camshaft. However I was 81 1/2% certain it was the camshaft before that. 100% certain after I took the camshaft out. 😉
@vipertv6010
@vipertv6010 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. What's the torke on the camshafts ?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I looked for torque specs in many places because each list I saw seamed to be incomplete but here is a link to a video that is helpful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqfEcmeNgd-dhbc Make sure you pay attention to weather it is foot pounds or inch pounds. Good luck with yours!
@jprelli7993
@jprelli7993 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Job. I do see a lot of these video's on KZbin and one thing that I have learned is that before you even attempt to do this you should pull your oil control valve and see if you have metal shavings in it. If it does I have read that the engine is done and you need to do a replace or rebuild. Correct me if im wrong.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 4 жыл бұрын
First of all I have to say I love the screaming eagle! Now that I got that out-of-the-way. I never checked the oil control valve. That probably would’ve been a good idea. 😂 I didn’t find any metal shavings in the bottom of the oil pan, that’s not to say that they’re not there somewhere. Hopefully the oil filters did their job. I’ve always been really good about changing the oil.
@johnjlanejr
@johnjlanejr 4 жыл бұрын
Not always the case. If the metal gets filtered and oil changed regularly you should be good. I have only seen one person on the internet that wiped his camshaft bearing and needed a new engine.
@amandadowney8697
@amandadowney8697 3 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 I have a 2012 Ram 2500 with the 5.7 Hemi with 119,995 miles that now has a Cyl 5 Misfire code. After replacing the plugs, boots and coil pack the light has come back on. It does have a slight tick but after clearing the code the light had stayed out after replacing the plugs and boots. Until we were towing the racecar home in the rain and it started to buck. We pulled over shut off the engine and waited. It drove okay the rest of the way home. We replaced the coil. The light was out while idling at home. Took it for a test drive and now it's back on. So I believe we are looking at the same repair. My Question is this: the dealer is saying that if the metal shavings have reached the oil control valve that we will be chasing metal forever and should just install a remanufactured engine. That's a $4500 job. I'm kind of afraid to tear it down to see and am not sure I want to replace the cam and lifters if I'm going to have to keep chasing more issues caused from metal from the first failure. That's a lot of tear down to confirm the amount of damage. Also, I have no way to haul the racecar to my last race this weekend. I'm bummed!
@autoandhomediy5974
@autoandhomediy5974 2 жыл бұрын
From what I've learned. If there is shavings present in the 6.2 or 6.4 that mopar calls for engine replacement. Other then that you would see the shavings going this deep into the engine and make sure to atleast drop the oil pan and clean it out. Don't think it's going to kill it.
@disscustinglybeautiful1652
@disscustinglybeautiful1652 3 жыл бұрын
We got the same problem but no mechanic wants to tackle it !! Where to find an ambitious mechanic?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain. It seems that some mechanics want so much you might as well put a rebuilt engine in. The other issue is to find a mechanic that you trust. They are out there. Wish I could tell you where. Good luck with your project! 😉
@rippinaroundeverywhere9249
@rippinaroundeverywhere9249 3 жыл бұрын
Good job man! Hoping my 16 2500 6.4 doesn't shit the bed...
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
😂 thanks! their is a good chance you are safe. This seems to happen to less than 4%.
@danieltrottier5943
@danieltrottier5943 4 жыл бұрын
How much time was involved from start to finish approximately ?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 4 жыл бұрын
It took about 25 to 30 hours of labor. I suppose that includes stopping to look up things on KZbin. Thank god we have KZbin! I am a carpenter by trade so this was a challenging project but a welcomed change of scenery.
@bobpitcher670
@bobpitcher670 3 жыл бұрын
The same thing happened to my Ram Only one lifter and the cam lobe It almost seems that they put one bad lifter in each engine Notice that there is no wear on any other lobes I don’t think that it is lack of lubricant
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
I hear that this is happening in about 4% of the 3rd gen hemi. I suspect that it is more because of people that scrap the vehicle rather than fix it or they are slipping by unknown when fixing them with aftermarket parts in mom and pop garages. I tend to agree with you about the lubricant. When I got my parts from the dealership they told me that they had a new distributor for the roller bearings. I think they were failing because of bad needle bearings. Thanks for watching 😉
@jeremysmith6642
@jeremysmith6642 2 жыл бұрын
I’m finishing one up today, why did you not do the MDS delete? Just curious if you know something I don’t cause I think it’s one of the coolest things I’ve seen in a while.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
No reason other than I am just keeping it stock. Whenever I feel like I don’t want it I just shut it off.
@neilporven3830
@neilporven3830 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video!!! I am now going to do the same job. Car dealer said cylinder #6 is miss firing and I am getting white smoke coming from the exhaust pipe only when it first starts up. I have three questions: how long did it take? Any special tools, especially for the fuel injectors? Where can I get engine timing and screw pound adjustments ?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It took about 25 to 30 hours of labor. I suppose that includes stopping to look up things on KZbin. Thank god we have KZbin! I am a carpenter by trade so this was a challenging project but a welcomed change of scenery. Their was nothing much more than your basic mechanics set of sockets, wrenches, screwdrivers and a few torque wrenches. The only tool I “borrowed” (free rental) from advanced auto parts was the harmonic pulley puller. Which I needed to put three nuts bolts and washers on to remove the pulley. The fuel line disconnect tool was kind of a specialty tool but it was off the shelf at the auto parts store for less than $10. The pneumatic tools are handy but not necessary. I looked for torque specs in many places because each list I saw seamed to be incomplete but here is a link to a video that is helpful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqfEcmeNgd-dhbc Make sure you pay attention to weather it is foot pounds or inch pounds. Good luck with yours. Let me know if their is anything else that I can help you with. 😉
@neilporven3830
@neilporven3830 3 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 thank you much for your reply and for the tip on ft. Pounds vs inch pounds. I will definitely check out the link you mentioned for the settings and also thanks for the special tools recommendation. Thank you.....
@hemirt7860
@hemirt7860 3 жыл бұрын
So could you drop this motor into a 05 Magnum R/T with easy? Or what would you really have to change?
@DarienDrakee
@DarienDrakee 3 жыл бұрын
The roller lifters didn't get replaced ? Because their needle bearings are the cause of the wear on the cam of course 🤷‍♂️
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
😂 Of course I replace the roller bearings, and I absolutely agree the needle bearings are the cause of this issue. One of the only times my camera died was when I was removing the lifters and bearings and of course it died again when I was putting them in. 😂 I think it was in the last minute of the part one video when I held one of them up and showed how bad it was. Chrysler says that they have a new distributor for this part which to me is as good as them admitting did they know that it is the problem. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. It helps with this whole KZbin algorithm.😉
@rolankelly9683
@rolankelly9683 3 жыл бұрын
Just curious how do you get the bolts out from the lifter area I haven’t been able to break the bolt to turn?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
What year is your truck. Are you referring to the bolts on the valve cover, or are you referring to the bolts inside the valve cover for the head?
@rolankelly9683
@rolankelly9683 3 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 2014 bolts are very hard to off I can’t even turn at all
@rolankelly9683
@rolankelly9683 3 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 The bolts for the head
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
@@rolankelly9683 the bolts to the head were a bit tough. They didn’t feel like they were frozen though. They are quite strong, I would be surprised if they snapped.
@rolankelly9683
@rolankelly9683 3 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 yeah I had to use a beaker bar to get them started very tough.. lol
@BWADaniel
@BWADaniel 3 жыл бұрын
Sooo….. What about the lifters?? Did you pre soak them in or or did you put them in there dry??
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the lifters. 😂 the only part of the project that the camera died on. I soaked them in break-in oil before I put them in. The same stuff that I put all over the camshaft while I was inserting it.
@BWADaniel
@BWADaniel 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I’m getting ready to put my engine back together once my new crank bearings arrive. My lifter blew up and jammed the crankshaft. No damage besides a bad lifter and scuffed camshaft. Just replacing a bunch of stuff while I’m in side of it.
@johnstube1128
@johnstube1128 Жыл бұрын
Amazing job and video!
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks john. 😉
@Dp-xf9mo
@Dp-xf9mo 3 жыл бұрын
Got 06 magnum rt awd I had it rebuilt was a nightmare to put together because awd got it running 3000 dollars was running good 2000 miles then misfire I think 🤔 cam it lifters changed coil packs spark plugs gonna take a loss get ride if it cheap
@fearlessfly100
@fearlessfly100 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video of the tear down and replacement of the camshaft and lifters in the 5.7 hemi.......im buying an 03 1500 with 97,000 miles and the seller says it makes a loud knocking noise when running with one dead cylinder....... so minimal im looking at pulling the heads and finding out what i need to do to repair the engine..... now i have a clearer view and it doesnt have 10 chains like other engines do for overhead valves.......do you think $2000 is too much for a 2003 with 97,000 miles? lol.... when i start tearing it apart im gonna post a video of the outcome of the engine........
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you find the videos useful. $2000 for a truck with less than 100,000 miles on it! That sounds good to me even if you have to spend a couple grand to make it good again. I would assume there was a check engine light on so at the very least I would start by finding out what the computer is telling you about the engine. It’s a challenging project but I have no doubt that you’ll be able to get it done. Good luck with it and when you post your video feel free to post a link to it right here in the comments. I look forward to seeing it! Good luck and be safe.
@vipertv6010
@vipertv6010 2 жыл бұрын
My friend how long has been since you fixed your truck Have you had any issues after you fix it?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
It has been about 20 months and almost 40k miles. The only thing that is somewhat related would be the exhaust manifold bolts. I should have changed them out while I had it out because a few of them are snapped now and now I have that other HEMI tick.
@vipertv6010
@vipertv6010 2 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 waoo yeah I'm doing same work right now and already bought the new exhaust bolts. Good job amigo I learned a lot from you 👍
@Steviethegr8
@Steviethegr8 2 жыл бұрын
How’s this running now?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
Still going. 163k. Now it needs shocks and struts. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnmck32LmJ5_mqM
@randyu8688
@randyu8688 2 жыл бұрын
Can u tell me why you had to do all this ? Lol I hear a tick on my truck and I'm freaking out now.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
😂 Two different kinds of ticks are very typical on these trucks. One of them is a result of broken bolts on the exhaust manifold. Usually causing a tick sound during a cold start and then the sound decreases as the engine warms up. Hopefully that is the tick that you hear. The tick that is associated with the cam shaft is usually accompanied by an engine code for a misfire. The ticking sound also comes from the top of the engine and does not get any quieter as the engine warms up. I hope that’s not the one you hear.
@randyu8688
@randyu8688 2 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 well I have no DTCs and truck runs great.
@Bemirboy
@Bemirboy 3 жыл бұрын
Did you have to pull the oil pan for this job ?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
No I did not pull the oil pan because I did not change the oil pump or the timing chain. If you are going to change the oil pump and timing chain you will most likely need to remove the oil pan. I have seen it done in the Dodge ram and without removing the oil pan but it looked very sketchy. I’m fairly certain If you are working on a jeep or a charger and you are changing the oil pump and timing chain, you will need to remove it.
@Bemirboy
@Bemirboy 3 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 my charger got 90k mile, I don’t think I’m gonna change the timing chain or oil pump, so you have to put it in time before you pull the cam for replacement ? I’ve done a lot of timing chains and this one seems fairly easy.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bemirboy theoretically no you do not need to put the engine in top dead center just as long as when you reassemble the new cam shaft you put it back in the same orientation that the old one came out in . Keeping the timing chain and the camshaft and the main driveshaft all at top dead center it’s just easier for me because you simply just realign all the timing marks.
@Bemirboy
@Bemirboy 3 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 awesome! I really appreciate your advice, I feel more comfortable doin the job now!
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bemirboy awesome! Glad to help. Good luck with it and please Let me know how it works out.
@dantilley9700
@dantilley9700 2 жыл бұрын
Im about to do this to my girlfriends durango .. Did you have to get the head resurfaced.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
No, I just cleaned it off and block sanded it.
@AllenManor
@AllenManor 2 жыл бұрын
Is there anything that has to be done to clean out the engine for metal contamination?
@mdiaz3872
@mdiaz3872 4 жыл бұрын
Did the engine stop making loud noise and did the check engine go away for the misfire to cylinder 4?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 4 жыл бұрын
Yes the engine quieted down after about 10 minutes. Their are no codes as of yet. It has been about 3500 miles since the project was completed.
@ItzShockkz
@ItzShockkz 4 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 my mechanic replaced my cam and lifters but its still ticking , what do u think it is? He said we have to drive it ... also my car has not been driven in like 2-3 months
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 4 жыл бұрын
@@ItzShockkz 🤔 a tick could be coming from a number a of things. Did the old cam look bad when he got it out? Things that come immediately to mind are... Bad valve seats, rocker arms, timing chain tensioner to name a few. Have you driven it at all since the repair?
@ItzShockkz
@ItzShockkz 4 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 yep the lifters and cammed looked beat which is why we replaced them , the camshaft is oem from dodge
@ItzShockkz
@ItzShockkz 4 жыл бұрын
@@fieromike1 havent driven it though , mechanic reccomends me to drive it so that the oil lubes the cam and lifters since there new ... do u think it will fix it?
@austinwick2941
@austinwick2941 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a source for torque specs? The only thing I found for the heads list different size bolts them mine it mentioned 12mm and 8mm and mine were 15mm and 10mm just a little confused
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
I looked for torque specs in many places because each list I saw seamed to be incomplete but here is a link to a video that is helpful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqfEcmeNgd-dhbc Make sure you pay attention to weather it is foot pounds or inch pounds. Good luck with yours!
@warrenmartin416
@warrenmartin416 4 жыл бұрын
Did you put new lifters in? I think that is the cause of the cam lobe getting ground down. Also did you just bolt the rockers back on the way the came off. I ask because i know some rockers need the lash adjusted.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 4 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely. For some reason I lost the footage of that. 😢. These require no adjustments for lash.
@wmrcer
@wmrcer 4 жыл бұрын
Also was pulling the water pump required to get the timing cover off, or could you have taken the timing cover come off with the water pump as a one piece?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 4 жыл бұрын
the water pump can stay on with the cover. I wanted to check the condition of the pump and the gasket was only around $6. I figured it was worth it since I was in there.
@wmrcer
@wmrcer 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Thank you for taken the time to make the video.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 4 жыл бұрын
@@wmrcer thank you! It was a lot of fun. I wouldn’t have been able to do it without KZbin. Good luck with your projects!
@gotpride01
@gotpride01 2 жыл бұрын
Great job man!. I own a 2009 and have to do the same thing. I would like to know if you replaced the lifters on it since the one that you pointed out was somewhat worn.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
😂 thanks! I laugh because that is basically what the video is about and it’s the only time my camera died. Both in the removal and the install. Yes I put all new lifters in and one of the lifting rods.
@vipertv6010
@vipertv6010 2 жыл бұрын
I have that piano song stuck in my head now. 😂
@ayyliljessie3704
@ayyliljessie3704 3 жыл бұрын
Does it not have to be at tdc to replace lifters?
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 3 жыл бұрын
No it can be in any position if you’re just changing the lifters.
@ayyliljessie3704
@ayyliljessie3704 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@projectbumblejeep4190
@projectbumblejeep4190 2 жыл бұрын
Great job and love the music. What did you do about the exhaust manifolds? couldn't tell from the first video. I am in the middle of this job on an 04 Durango and can't make up my mind if I want to drop the Y pipe and take the manifolds with the heads or un bolt the manifolds then remove the heads. Thanks for you time. God bless and stay well.
@fieromike1
@fieromike1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I ended up keeping the manifolds on the heads. It was a bit heavier but their were less bolts to mess around with. The manifold bolts are prone to breaking so if you do remove them you should plan on replacing them. Good luck with yours! Keep me posted and let me know what you end up doing or if their is anything else I may be able to help with. 😉
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