5 BEST and WORST Big Boy Forgeworld Models!

[@lol1o138]

I actually showed a friend the cost of the warlord titan, his response was “that shit better be made out of gold and come with a butler”

[@leopard2a769]

lol

[@moldiworp9143]

My hot take was: "It better drive you to work at that price"

[@DonKrieg-382]

for only 2000 usd!

[@asdf9890]

That is crazy to me too. I build WWII military models, and currently the largest and most expensive I can think of is a 1/32 B-17, for about $350. The titan is cool as hell, but not for 2k, for me at least.

[@TheRaven-WingGaming]

Short Answer: They all suck. They all cost way too damn much. If they came down on the price by about 50% on everything and kept it there, then that would make them not suck as much as they do now.

[@Miniaturesanonymous]

That's called china cast lol

[@TheRaven-WingGaming]

Thanks for the love, mate.

[@captainparty]

They’re not too expensive, you just can’t afford it.

[@sleeplessknight99]

Get into a cheaper hobby.

[@TheRaven-WingGaming]

@@captainparty How I'm imagining you atm: "What's this? Another peasant?"

[@midnightmonty]

For all you new players, forge world's heyday was when 40k apocalypse first came out. So many custom tank variations, so many different things for individual armies. The original line of venerable dreadnoughts were amazing for all chaos and space marine chapters. Is was definitely the best time for getting forge world items

[@navahrnlaucke6194]

There's not a whole lot anymore... but there are other companies that print alot of similar variants... modern and dark grim and there cheaper

[@Valtier_]

I love the Titan Warlord, I just don't get the justification for the price. It is ridiculous. If you see how some parts are bended or damaged ... :/ then I'm just lost for words.

[@DarkSoulsReject]

I love the warlord as well but yeah there is no way in hell the price point is justifiable

[@WH40KHero]

You can bend the resin if you let run hot water over it. It may not be perfect, but its better then having a totally useless piece.

[@Valtier_]

@@WH40KHero yeah I get that, but at that price tag it should be perfect. I also collect prime 1 statues and those come put together and painted and so far always arrived in mint condition. So I don't get how they can justify delivering something so bend and crooked. While it was literally their only job to deliver good fitting pieces.

[@WH40KHero]

@@Valtier_ You have a point. Yet at the same time the material from which the model is made has its limits and quirks. Which is to say that i wouldnt put all the blame on Forge World itself.

[@fennoman9241]

@@WH40KHeroforge world is responsible for it and they are the ones charging so much for it.

[@Based_Lord_Humongous]

I'd put the Tau Manta in to be tied with the Warlord. Warlord suffers from Action Economy: you will only play it in Apoc. Your opponent will have lots of firepower. You will not be able to put out enough firepower to last. The Manta carries a whole ass army. And is an army into itself. But it's so damn expensive

[@eneaceribelli8023]

The manta isn't meant to be used as a model, it is meant to be used as a whole killteam terrain board

[@gregceely43]

I was enjoying this video already as ever, but particularly enjoyed that "lithe" definition pop-up.

[@JayAndNightASMR]

I just wish the took more effort, they cost more as they're supposed to be premium, but have worse flashing, and air bubbles etc than cheap knock offs. It's what puts me off buying from them.

[@zackcook5123]

Recast it then sell the original?

[@spacehamsterZH]

What's funny is that there are literal dozens of companies much smaller than GW with nowhere near their resources that make resin models with none of these QC issues, yet GW somehow expects us to believe it can't be helped because "it's resin". Yeah, right. That's why my Creature Caster models all have bubbles and warping, oh wait, they don't.

[@mig1739]

Bro I'm a single guy living in a cheap ass apartment making higher quality resin prints with my bargain deal resin printer and an old laptop my cousin gave me then Forgeworld makes.

[@flare9757]

Also, if you run Custodes, Forge World offers far more variety than just Games Workshop.

[@seanrydell112]

The reason the astreus tank feels 'not 40k' is 'cause it doesn't have any skulls

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

The astraeus tank looks like a similar shape to the tau hammerhead, it just looks wrong for an imperial tank

[@arielnir2679]

I like the look of it, but i can see Why some dont like it.

[@Mikey__R]

Yep. Nice design, wrong faction.

[@Scooge666]

I'm the proud owner of a Warhound and a Gargantuan Squiggoth and i love them both 💗

[@waynedodson7360]

That warlord titan is sooo cool. Not $3000 cool, but it is 3d printer cool 😎 Especially with it more or less being a novelty.

[@KabinMiniatures]

I like the old Chaos War Mammoth they used to make, as well as their line of busts and statues.

[@mig1739]

The astreus tank looks like a tank I would find on the 3D market while I'm browsing for proxies to print and I end up passing it up for the exact reasons you just mentioned lol and that would only cost me 20 bucks I couldn't imagine spending whatever Forgeworld is asking for something that out of place.

[@Ironic_daemonic]

The brass scorpion looks great painted as rusty iron warriors. I call mine The Iron Scorpion.

[@lazerhosen]

I feel like, for a Khornate daemon engine, it doesn't look Khornesque enough. In fact, I think it looks more like it fits with the old Dark Eldar aesthetic, especially the ridges on its legs that look like the sculptor kit-bashed some splinter cannons. Segmented armor: looks like Drukhari; armor trim on those segments: looks a little bit chaos; the result: doesn't look like it would fit either army. I think the model has an identity crisis. But that's 40k Chaos for you. Almost got a whole new aesthetic in previous edition's box with the dark angels... and now you only see that look on a handful of dudes. Still no World Eaters or Emperor's Children books in sight anytime soon... I'm mad and I don't even play Chaos.

[@alecmiller5296]

@@lazerhosen I play world eaters and I’ll i have to say is fuck gw

[@lazerhosen]

@@alecmiller5296 IKR? With the popularity (in the past) of both Nurgle and Khorne (and them both getting tomes in AoS while the other two waited for a while), I thought for sure there would have been a Wold Eaters book by now. The fact that loyalists are moving towards Primaris means that so many options have opened up for CSM to not be at all like them by basing their units/wargear off older astartes stuff. Some of the old gripes against CSM was that they were just spikey space marines with occasional daemons. Closest thing WE ever got was that "Khorne Daemonkin" book. It would be more than fair for WE and EC to get their own books to stand beside DG and TS for the pantheon... the undivided legions, renegades, and of course Black Legion can all easily be done in 1 CSM book and/or one supplement, but instead Chaos players get the paywall Be'lakor treatment. I was going to say that the only players that have been shafted more than particular sub-sects of Chaos are Orks and Eldar, but Orks are about to get their shiny newness. Oh crap, Tau have it bad too (but not as bad as Craftworlders). I bet Chaos will get their W2 marines before a new Tau book.

[@g-paint9523]

The next Video should be a Tierlist of the FW Chaos deamons. I think it will BE a Close Run for the top :D Most of Them Look really really nice! ... But they also have... Well black sheeps Among Them

[@Keltik0ne]

Took me about 4 months of back and forth with Forgeworld to get all the bits for my warhound, they were good about it but they had a real quality problem.

[@wakito64]

Took me 1 year and a half for my Warlord, Forgeworld really have quality issues when it comes to big models (but that doesn’t apply to smaller models like Contemptor Dreadnought which is really weird)

[@petermartin9224]

You know, can't really argue with either lists, good to see the nids in there. My god though, they still sell that necron pylon? For years that was the only necron item Forge world sold. The nids had it a lot easier (even if GW did take a few of the designs for the main nid range)

[@eneaceribelli8023]

Yeah, the pylon still exist

[@Tremadog102]

I really like the Ordinatus Ulator. I wish I could put that into my Adeptus Mechanicus army but the price, the size and the lack of 40k rules really torpedo my chances of owning one.

[@JonBoy79]

Splashed out on the Necron Seraptek Heavy Construct the other week. Awkward to build but it looks amazing put together.

[@captainsewerrat]

I soooooo agree with you on the tank. (And the planes) All those Grav Tanks look out of place to me. Just improve the look of the tracked tanks a bit, lengthen them a little, lower them a bit maybe. But those grav plate things just look meh to me. I fondly recall the Land Speeder, they were cool, they were Attack Helicopters that flew over the Leman Russ Tanks and RHinos, but those Grav Tank things look like "Oh let's just have the Landspeeds with ARmor and fly low." It's uninspired. Give me some 6x6 APC's. Now Land Speeders that are too heavy to fly high because they pretend to be Tanks.

[@Rottenflieger.]

Acknowledging that this is your opinion and you're totally welcome to it, I don't really follow how you can consider the thunderhawk to be close to the warhound in terms of best FW big models, but then criticise the Marauder for being a large flyer. I do agree though that the regular game size can make flyers a bit tricky to use. That said, on larger boards I don't think it's that big a deal.

[@EonsOfBattle]

It was a tough decision between the thunderhawk and warhound but for me, I think I would have more fun with the warhound. the thunderhawk does look much better.

[@MrOliverdunn]

BEST AND WORST video idea: Top 5 easiest and hardest to paint models. This can be due to complexity, level of detail, types of colours needed, etc. E.g. Nurgle stuff is usually pretty easy to paint while harlequins are notoriously tricky. What do you think?

[@MyAlessandro1995]

Great video, even though I love the Astraeus, it will be part of my ultramarines vehicle armory on day

[@fossildave123]

Gotta admit, flyers are a tad clunky to play with, and the X shaped flight stands do suck (which is why i've bought 12" clear acrylic rods to use instead), but the marauder is a cool looking model, and would be a centre piece unit for say an airborne assault style list (Think tons of valkyries and infantry jumping out). I'd have swapped it for the tau manta. It essentially suffers from the same problems, except that its so goddamn big that it requires multiple flight stands if you want it hovering off the ground, AND its super expensive. But hey, most of this list i agree with.

[@luketfer]

Jesus yeah I'm not even sure HOW you'd play with the Tau Manta, it's like 3-4 times the size of the Marauder, it literally takes up from 1/4 to 1/2 of a table. If you wanted it hovering you'd definitely have to kitbash a solid metal pipe using flying stand which cradles the Manta, I just don't think there's plastic strong enough to hold it up with any consistency.

[@WarhammerWings]

Agreed. I'm collecting the Aeronautica Imperialis models to make 40K micro!

[@alekszandor]

Got 2 mental images due to your narration about 2 of the models on the best list. The first was a image of the eldar mecha skipping around like a flowergirl while singing: "la la la..." The second was the warhound running up and starting to dry humping the vehicle/mechs of the enemy...

[@beowylfen]

Its not like a big boy model but I dig the forge world characters. Like the necromunda dudes and the Horus Heresy primarchs. They just look fun to paint

[@გიორგიმოსაშვილი-ო3დ]

I don't really play tabletop, I love the collecting and painting as well as the lore so flyers are a must for me

[@lazerhosen]

Originally Forge World just sort of made stuff from the lore. Jay's take on the Marauder "looking like a regular plane" is silly because just look at Astra Militarum/Imperial Guard tanks... World War 1/2 aesthetic.

[@Ranbowkiss]

Hardest working man in the hobby hands down.

[@sweetssandbox3526]

Hey Jay, guys here

[@matthewrider267]

Hard disagree on the Astraeus. It's the centrepiece to my Iron Hands army and it not only looks imposing, but is actually playable on the table and always turns heads. Yet again... you do play Black Templars

[@samcoski4590]

I definitely agree, I loved it so much I just ordered one for my Blood Angels army and can't wait. I don't get what people have against it. It feels more 40k than a repulsor...?

[@matthewrider267]

@@samcoski4590 It feels more 40k than a Repulsor because it needs so many grav-plates to stay afloat. It feels hilariously inefficient for what is essentially a floating gun turret and it's glorious.

[@markgnepper5636]

Great stuff friend 👏 👍

[@MasterShake9000]

Me before the video starts: I wonder if Jay actually owns any of these Me after Jay talks about non-Khornate Brass Scorpions: I wonder if Jay even knows the lore or rules let alone the models

[@lazerhosen]

I know right? Too bad it looks more Drukhari than Khorne anyways. If the armor evoked the good elements of the defiler then it would have been a hit for me.

[@terminator572]

The thing with 40k is that it's so customizable that it really doesn't matter how you want to paint YOUR models. If Jay wants to paint a Brass Scorpion in Nurgle colors then more power to him, it's paint over plastic at the end of the day.

[@commanderstorm8874]

As a person with a valk that I used in a game I can agree with flyers not really having a place in normal 40K game

[@petersinton43]

Fair list & reasons,gotta sat love my astreaus tanks & I'm fortunate enough to have two warlords the second was half price on ebay & part built.The tyranids definitely need an update

[@emgee2807]

I was incredibly lucky to get a Seraptek Heavy Construct at half price, shame the Lord of War rules can be a bit janky.

[@lord.polonius]

"It still holds up" -said no heirophant owner ever. Famous for being impossible on those ridiculous little stick legs, and can you imagine how far they'd sink into the ground on a muddy battlefield?

[@lazerhosen]

That and it's probably one of the least Tyranid-y models that exist; no hooves in the back!? Pretty much every Tyranid model is a hooved, multi-limbed, reptilian-bodied monster... definitely not bugs (GW design specifies that they are basically alien dinosaurs [Tyran{osaurus}ids {Rex}] and not bugs)... except for some reason the spindly hierophant wonky boi.

[@luketfer]

@@lazerhosen It's actually a call back to the OLD 2nd edition Tyranids, where they use to be more gribbly bug creatures and less dinosaurs. Look at the original Epic rendition of the Hierophant to see what I mean.

[@lazerhosen]

@@luketfer yes indeed, which means that Forgeworld ignored the design prompt of the Tyranid plastic overhaul in 3rd ed

[@TwiggyJack]

I love my hierophant. The legs were a bitch to stick on and it takes some balancing but the thing looks wicked sick in real life. I’ll admit I didn’t like the design growing up until my gf bought me one.

[@wulf2757]

That primaris tank looks more like a Tau vehicle than a Space Marine one.

[@latrodectusmactans7592]

Well it does have a Railgun…

[@pumblechook1505]

Suprised Tau'nar supremacy armour wasn't on the best list it's so beautiful

[@TalentHouseAd]

I love the asterius! At first i thought it was really dumb looking, but Idk, it grew on me. I started really getting into how big and bulky the guns are, and i feel like if one left off the chest plate, and had wires and shit hanging down, it would make it look sufficiently mechanicus. One thing that was pointed out by Sup3rSaiy3n is that the Forge World model is in a really sucky pose. If you google up the Asterius, there are some really gnarly poses people have put it in!

[@Narryel]

7:09 hey guys what is that model on the left? usual questoris with some AM upgrades or smth?

[@davidbarko7004]

7:25 Yes! This is exactly what I say to people who insist on putting arms on their stormsurges. At that scale arms are ludicrous physically and it really starts to get into giant toy robot territory which totally breaks the immersion of the model IMO. You don’t need arms if your waist can just rotate 360 degrees and point your guns at the thing you want to absolutely annihilate. Besides, what is a Storsurge going to do with it’s arms in melee range anyway? Just commit to the walking gunboat aesthetic and rock it people!

[@ghostparty2062]

Yep I completely agree, the stormsurge looks a tad goofy but when it has arms its just ridiculous looking 🙃

[@TheDirtysouthfan]

I find the lack of arms also kind of silly though, if a Titan Walks by and kicks the Stormsurge over, how will it get up? It's just going to be lying on its back helpless! They had to give the Stormsurge a mini jetpack to compensate for this, not one that makes it fly like a Riptide no, but one that keeps it from falling over!

[@MrKodiak272]

Do agree with your list but I'd add a honorable mention in the Reaver Titan. Assembling it is a nightmare and sadly I didn't learn at 1. Have 3 atm. The Warlord in Australian dollars is $2770+ that being the standard loadout on offer atm. Mine with multi options I want is closer to $3500 which u can buy a cheap run about car for that price. Awesome video though cheers

[@darthrooster1]

The little kid / milk comment killed me. Spot on!

[@joshuafranco9148]

OMG! That Acastus knight looks like it came straight out of the Big O anime.

[@CAMSLAYER13]

Technically on a point per pound ratio the warlord titan is pretty good value

[@chrisgoblin4857]

Oh my that is a hot take. Flyers are always cool in my books. I have 2 Stormraven my Blood Angels just for the fluff.

[@michaelspitz9151]

AHA so nine Models i can’t afford great but five more added to my cart. :) I love that you always show the light and dark of GW thanks Jay

[@yoshiwiseful]

thanks for making all thes videos cool info

[@squidcultist0022]

And I thought 150$ for mortarion was expensive

[@michaeltunnicliffe4935]

I've never bought from Forgeworld for most of the reason you gave. 2 grand for a titan is ludicrous. For 2 grand, that's a great holiday, or if we want to stick to the realms of 40k, enough for a beginner to buy 2 very reasonably sized armies, complete with codex's, alongside a rule book to get started, a decent table to play on and all the accessories you'd need to play (i.e. dice and tape measures.) In fact, get the Imperium magazine and you could get every issue which would give you two armies bigger than any army I've ever collected AND, you could go on a very nice holiday. Also I agree with you on flyers. They obscure your view of the battlefield, they take up too much room, and their bases don't allow for much manoeuvrability. For me 40k has always been about boots on ground. I'll take a platoon of guardsmen over a flyer any day. TBH, i think the same for titans and giant models. How do you fit a humongous titan base on a war-torn city board?

[@grant.bloomquist]

@9:06 did you put s on chassis 🤔

[@lizadon0740]

I like the astrues it looks more like a mobile base than a tank which I think looks better when hovering, than bigger rhino that are flying.

[@timbrown4928]

My jangles have been jingled! I love my Astraeus! :P

[@heckinmemes6430]

3:01 - "Hahn, mah boogy, macki-cheesay." I feel like I need some SoBs in chains while I throw my enemies into an ancient carnivorous pit.

[@DragonuFear]

I definitely feel the Fellblade, the marine baneblade equivalent, feels more space marines than the astraeus but that won't stop me from getting both in due time... already have the fellblade in the painting queue

[@samcoski4590]

Ya I love the fellblade and astraeus but it's really just retro vs future 40k

[@samk2013]

Hey Jay, would love to see another mini painting video soon!

[@jamiepetereit7828]

Love the Lucius pattern warhound

[@luketfer]

Being an old Grognard I've always prefered the Mars pattern myself because it harkens back to the original Epic design of it. Admittedly if I could I'd get a version of the original Armorcast one.

[@commanderstorm8874]

A GW model that I will say is a never buy is the emperors champion when I got it it wasn’t up to par of the rest of GW model sprews and broke basically immediately and it was some weird resting plastic combo that made a lot of trimming and preping

[@vladkriuk5156]

Something about 40k makes me a troops and kill teams person all the way. I can see the appeal of building and painting something hooge but eh... Can't see myself getting anything bigger than a dreaddy.

[@eneaceribelli8023]

Forgeworlds are like 40k knights: painting projects, something where you can use and perfect your techniques. But also as knights these projects require times and effort, something not all people are willing to invest in a toy soldier model. And the cost

[@E40kGeek_Tactical]

Hierophant is awesome...got to disagree on the Marauder destroyer in terms of looks but I get the flyer argument(board is too small to accommodate them).

[@eneaceribelli8023]

The more I look at forgeworld the more I think those are apocalypse only models. That or painting projects

[@E40kGeek_Tactical]

@@eneaceribelli8023 ain't that the truth especially with the Titans. They basically can shoot anywhere on the board 1st turn and are limited on movement/cover with a 6x4 table size.

[@M1tZk1]

I just started with 40K and chose the Black Templars as my first army. Though I'm still looking for a centre peace. The Chaplain on Bike or the Land Raider Crusader simply don't cut it.

[@wakito64]

If you have big money to spend look at the Legion Glaive or Legion Fellblade, they are basically Space Marine version of the Baneblade with bigger guns. Quite expensive but they make really good center pieces

[@1kizhun]

Look up either the helbrecht pattern landraider or tim kline's leviathan their kitbash's that should give u a little inspiration.

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

I love the Brass Scorpion :P

[@oblivionfan345Tony]

I really wanted the Dread Saurian model because it looked like it was just ripped straight from Total War Warhammer 2 and it was awesome and gigantic. Not on the website anymore though, such is Forgeworld.

[@Vikn01]

I see sooooo many awesome, gritty models I'd love to have on forge world. While the large models are the classics and many are, all things considered, probably the most impressive. I did get the Admech Peltast and Hoplite upgrade kits. I was just so sold by the incredibly badass, elite looks and, if I'm honest, the paint jobs probably influenced me. The Peltasts do look great. However, the ostensibly MUCH cooler one, the Hoplites, have some issues with the assembly. To be fair, it was my first use of super glue (a mistake) as, aside from seemingly messing up a few models, it apparently ripped off my fingerprints for 6mos as I was unable to use my phone's fingerprint unlock for that long afterwards. But my inexperience alone isn't at fault...some of the connections between the arms and shields just suck. But my biased personal favorite is also one I own and perhaps a hot take. The colossal squig. It reminds me of one of my dogs, an 18lb female boston terrier (the similarity is in her personality and behavior) and it's actually a hefty, solid and detailed model. Great to paint, probably the first model I fully finished (I consider parade ready finished) and I still think it looks quite good for being so early in my painting growth (not much else from that time does). I'm biased, ofc. I've loved squigs since the warhammer MMO and I was in middle school...over a decade...maybe 15yrs, before I got into the minis. The king of squigs is going to be, at least to me, simply the king.

[@mikeg9516]

Whats your opinion on the forge world custodes?

[@jamesashcroft8170]

Honestly, I still like the look of the Necron pylons. I think they fit fine. Plus, the Necrons could use the visual variety

[@swankypants9366]

Thing permanently stuck in my shopping cart? The lancer titan. God, I love that thing so much. I don't even own a proper army, hell, I haven't even finished a whole box of imperial units yet, but I just really want it. It's just so damn pretty, man.

[@zombiedad]

I know it is ridiculous but I love the mechanicum ordinatus ulator

[@jackcanox4015]

I have a greater brass scorpion and i am so proud of it

[@EonsOfBattle]

it's a sweet model!

[@christopherdilloway4836]

I have the Tau Supremacy suit so I was worried it might make the bad part of the list lol but it is a monster of a model and really cool looking. It's even designed to be magnetized with built-in spots to magnetize the arms. I've taken it out to show off a couple times but never used it on the field in an active battle. And the base is quite large and allowed me to make a pretty neat mini-diorama scene going on around it. As to flyers...the Storm Talon was what got me to try 40K and was my first model. I had watched people playing 40K and always wondered why there wasn't close air support...modern warfare has helos and even some pistol or jet powered aircraft that can get down low an intervene in a battle so it never made sense to me why 40K lacked that...but then I saw the Storm Talon and that sold me on giving it a try. And Aeronautica Imperialis is a pretty cool game :)

[@solitairemask7754]

Did they accidentally mislabel a Tau tank as Primaris, and now they have to roll with it?

[@ONIMOT100]

Nah, fuck off with the adeptus mechanicus titan being number three. That guy fucks. He looks awesome.

[@chrispowell2947]

for me best big boy forgeworld model is the now OOP plague hulk. this thing inspired me to collect a whole nurgle army. I still have one unpainted because i'm too scared to approach it... one day....

[@HJKampe]

I've been wanting to buy that forever but then they stopped making it.

[@marcelburdon9795]

Dawh, didn’t get to see my beloved Tau titan

[@muppetminded7183]

Jay, you mention flyers but you didn't take the shot on the Tau Manta. The wingspan is around 36" wide. It carries an entire army that sits inside it; including battlesuits and tanks. If memory serves though it doesn't come with a base.

[@dannyhyland546]

Does anyone know if forge world models are still allowed in aos 3.0

[@jdeltaalpha5195]

Instead of buying forgeworld I wound up picking up an armiger to scratch the painting itch. A full sized big one is too much for me since I only model and paint, and barely play anymore. If anything the biggest I'd probably go is one of those knights on the 170mm base.

[@jdeltaalpha5195]

If I buy a model I want to be able to use it in "normal" games, not apoc games.

[@TheDirtysouthfan]

I always saw the Big models as just extra, something that sits in storage or in a display case except for that one big game of Apoc you play once a year. I would disagree with the Warlord Titan, since the 2k price tag is part of the experience, but the Reaver titan is similarly expensive but it's just so butt ugly. I get that they're trying to stay true to the original Adeptus Titanicus Designs, but it doesn't did it for me. I just looks so stumpy, it can't look around comfortably etc.. Overall, FW does have some normal scale stuff that's pretty good and a bit more reasonably priced. One thing that shocked me when I got back in was the fact that the difference between GW and FW lines has shrunk. GW kits have gotten more expensive, but they've also gotten bigger and more detailed. GW now makes all the Baneblade variants and even Knights, whereas FW has moved in the direction of producing smaller models you could more easily use in a normal game of 40k and upgrade kits, even having several armies of its own playable in 40k. Hell, FW even makes its own versions of kits GW sells, the Khorne Lord of Skulls looks way better with the FW legs and is somehow cheaper than the GW version. The FW Riptide variants like the Yvahra and Rvarna look way better than the GW Riptide as well. At this point though, I feel like all the FW stuff should be absorbed into mainline 40k, that would make the rules easier to deal with and the difference between players reduced.

[@smeebo86]

Hello Jay, long time listener first time commenting but sorry really have to disagree with what you said about the astraus. As an old school blood angel player (you know the guys that are like black templar but better :P ) back it 2nd and 3rd edition only recently getting back in to 40k i love it! I mean come on its like a venator class star desyroy in tank form! Anyway have a wonderful day and looking forward to your next video. Peace ✌

[@MarodeurLP]

IDK I really dislike the warhound and the dark eldar one .. but I agree with the Hirophant

[@krispybananaz]

I love how he said the Morata destroyer is basically an auto win unless your opponent brings tons of anti-air stuff 😂😂 yeah okay the marauder is apparently meta now… man this guy really has some interesting hot takes. The rules for the marauder suck, and being -1 to hit isn’t that big of a deal when most things in the game hit on 3s anyways.

[@kzmekos]

forgeworld? that's a funny way of saying wallet destroyer

[@matthewbonthron6731]

I played a game against a guy who brought five bio titan vs my warlord reaver and two bane blades talk about games to remember

[@elrondorio]

I liked your comment about the cost of a Warlord Titan ruining your life, as the cost of the regular line of GW 40K kits has ruined mine (even the boxed games like Blood Bowl and Necromunda are difficult to purchase if your wages too low.)

[@lemon_strangler3120]

Nightwing and gorgon super heavy tank are my favourites

[@duathhadron5040]

*Talking about the warlord titan* I hate that this model exists! *slowly puts my wallet away* so true! It’s ridiculous!

[@CocoHutzpah]

I have 1 Forge World model: the Thunderbolt. It was fun to build (even if the instructions were a game of I Spy) but it was far more expensive than it should be. It has the same level of detail as a Valkyrie, but costs almost twice as much. If I get another Forge World model, it might be the Warhound titan, then probably nothing more.

[@stangerr0267]

How do you not mention the Taunar

[@annasstorybox7906]

I kinda hope that the Killteam Octarius kit is a good omen... GW is about to discontinue the steel legion minis... So I have hopes that they were probing peoples interest by putting out Deathkorps models in that box to potentially bring them over to GW entirely and put out a whole new array of models in plastic for our beloved gasmask-guys

[@VenomBurst]

As a proud owner of a mastodon tank myself I will say I'm both happy and sad it wasn't mentioned on either of these lists. But what is your take on it? Like it or hate it?

[@bretts2356]

I'd be more prone to buy forgeworld models if they had rules in the main codex. I have no desire to buy an imperial Armor book just to have the rules for a single $300 model.

[@MrDaqar]

Can't decided whether the Chaos Warhound Titan or the Chaos Reaver Titan would be best for a forgeworld noob. I like both.

[@samcoski4590]

Great list, the only thing I would disagree with is the Astraeus. Ik a lot of people don't like it but idk🤷‍♂️ I think it's because I love the flying primaris tanks but I don't like that they are like a pincushion of little weapons, the Astraeus has a cool flying chasis and just a centerpiece weapon and sponsons

[@drebodollaz3504]

The warhound is so iconic.

[@Birbinator2008]

I was thinking, “Why is the warlord titan so low on the list?” High price is very good justification.

[@Derekthetau]

Jay is a man of culture recognizing that air vehicles in 40K are super dumb.

[@jacobjohnston3983]

8:50 …the Astraeus tank literally has huge square panels and rivets, exactly the two things you said it should have.

[@Mikey__R]

I've got a Warhound and a Marauder Destroyer, both of which I'm too afraid to build.

[@optimusWII]

Oh yeah, I forgot Necron Pylons were a thing. Kind of thought they disappeared a while ago