#5 BEST BOARD FOR AMATUR SURFERS!? PYZELS NEW SECRET BOARD MODEL! WHAT JJF IS USING FOR TOUR,

Episode 5 of the Nate and Koa podcast. And for our first guest ever we sit down with Pyzel Surfboards!
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‪@KoaRothman‬ ‪@NathanFlorence‬ ‪@pyzel‬

[@sweetlou7558]

This is literally the best podcast because it's not a podcast. These just feel like hanging out with you guys.

[@TeamNowhereMuayThai]

Legit so good!!!

[@qaaronrodgers2479]

I mean that’s what a podcast is lol Rogan started this 10 years ago in his kitchen with just his comedian friends.

[@teauesera9236]

Nailed on the head

[@wcc1212]

100%. Hope this thing blows up, and they are on here for the next 20 years. I would be fascinating to see that timeline.

[@qaaronrodgers2479]

@@ba7260 Name one long form 3 hour conversation style podcast before Rogan in 2009. Ok I’ll wait

[@waxcomb]

I'm real keen to hear an interview with the Florence mom. Not only did you guys manage to turn out alright, but reaching the highest tier of big wave surfing and a world champ, also Ivan seems to be doing ok too. She clearly knows a thing or two

[@michelemeixner7604]

Yes! I would love to see that also.

[@ole.strand]

Yes! Totally agree

[@robertg5791]

Great idea. Would be a must watch. Her kids are beast mode and humble at same time.

[@joefranks877]

What an amazing episode. Koa is a really good interviewer and Pyzel seems like such a chill guy.

[@suekelly3910]

John is one of the kindest, most polite and relaxed persons I ever met. What a great episode again, Thank you!

[@seblivefloormanager]

Pyzel is such a dude 🙌 And.... Knock. Knock. Knock - stops talking, quick look. EVERYONE - Avacado. - carries on talking.... WTF??? Hahahha. So many laid back gems in this episode 💪🥰🤙

[@seblivefloormanager]

Been checking KZbin feverishly for the last 48 hours! Huge relief to see episode 5 drop! PLUS an amazing guest! Thank you Nate and Koa, need my fix of you boys just chatting! 😅🤙 Massive respect to the three of you this week. Keep living and inspiring us mere mortals thank you! 😊

[@davidsills5093]

This is literally one of my favorite podcast I’ve ever seen, just constant smiles and laugh just like hanging with the boys. Keep ‘em coming !!!

[@mikem1613]

Feel like my old 80's HB days just talking surf watching this! Now I'm a kook in Phoenix! I love this! Nate rest player! Don't rush back!

[@Golfprojosh]

Nathan - “ when you first started shaping?…“ Greatest way to get out of the pollution conversation. Hilarious watching Nathan try to be quiet :-)

[@TheVisualante11]

Awesome First Guest. Pyzell what a cool dude. My new Favorite Surfer is Tora Watanabe. You should have him on your Podcast when he's in Town. Super cool Cat and his Dad is. super chill maybe both. I meet at the cold water classic Santa Cruz he came in 2nd lost to Kolohe Andino at the Buzzer in the Finals. Rides The Pyzell noticed--Pyzell brought him up in the Podcast. He's. my pick not only to make it to WCT but be in the Top 5.

[@pastepotthot701]

“You know that is a trigger word for me” 😂 Just make the man his bread stick already Pyzel!!

[@darknesscomesforallofus4632]

make it an asym... lol.

[@seancallahan1312]

@@darknesscomesforallofus4632 * name checks out * 🤣🤣🤣

[@stevitos]

I missed the bread stick joke but see it referenced all the time, can anyone explain it to me?

[@michaellee4537]

I swear pyzel and john hate koa, i get this vibe i dont know

[@lukedorsey4423]

Love your stuff guys, I really enjoy your attitudes and your ability to keep everything low key. However, it would be awesome to hear you guys jump even more into his past with you guys. What drew him to it? How shaping has changed from when he was a kid in SB. How you met him would be super cool to hear also! Knowing he is a friend to you guys it would be so much fun to hear it through the conversation and stories you guys have. Either way, love to listen to this at work!

[@wcc1212]

'Were you on your phone?" "That's not the point! A quad cop pulled me over!" 🤣

[@TruthIsNot4Sale]

Great pod cast I wish I could hear all the stories inside the stories this was so great and very interesting on different boards shapes sizes and what they do well done super fun to hang out wishing Nate a quick recovery and Koa a breadstick

[@SasoCasablanca63]

What an awesome vlogcast ! Really special thing you guys have here/ Different, Funny, Witty and Informative all at the same time. One of the best shapers in the world as guest number 1. Nicely done!

[@DanOMallsVideo]

That was super enjoyable to watch! Get more and more stoked on the pod each week. Thank you!

[@Clous_online]

Don’t ever stop this podcast! So good already!! 🎉

[@wyatt1476]

Nate trying to understand pyzel explaining shaping had my dying haha

[@krusher74]

"dumb and dumber"

[@BrentBenn]

Entertaining and informational. Great show guys!

[@publicschooleducated5276]

41 and live in Northern Nevada never surfed or wanted to and still don’t but got hooked on this channel and Koa’s and his rat pack group the last 3-4 weeks and watched just about every video going back 3 years and I’m just completely enamored with it all ( no homo) and can’t get enough. Appreciate it all and just wanna say thanks and best of health

[@tubethis777]

Give it a shot to surfing! Go to Cancun for warm water and friendly waves, surfing lessons and great vibes. Search for Gaviota Azul beach and learn about it.

[@KingRovert]

Keep crushing. This podcast WILL blow up boys

[@gabrielm.4554]

28:45 so a lighter board paddles better and EPS is lighter when compared to a PU board of equivalent volume..... soooooo EPS paddles better 😅 Nice one Pyzel

[@youtubeJune2004]

rainy morning on NS just watched this. very entertaining. Pyzel should be a regular guest

[@jimreynolds1540]

pyzalien2 greatest all around one board quiver. YOU GUYS ROCK.

[@julierussell4316]

Growing up 3rd gen HB now 62yro... I get so inspired by anything you put out. Have to say that I am so grateful to see the greats like Pyzel, they have the secrets of the ocean within their souls. (Growing up they would have me test all the new boards because if it could be trashed out I would prove it) You never lose the eye, whether shaping a board or seeing the sets roll in.... a little piece of the heart of Mother ocean in every board

[@ericdilley4724]

Appreciate the discussion about environmental impacts. The surfing community in general is well aware but it's good to still talk about it for those who may not think about it otherwise. Great conversation all around and very informative description of epoxy vs reg glass boards!

[@jamesroscoe7555]

The most environmentally sound board is the one that is least inclined to break because they are all plastic waste. Of course there are tradeoffs between strength and performance and cost. Laminating with epoxy, S-glass, Innegra, Dark Arts' process, etc are more expensive but can make a tougher board. Really enjoy the podcast! Thanks for bringing Pyzel on!

[@jamesroscoe7555]

@@jt3366 I've made a few boards now glassed with 4oz s glass (4/4+4). It is slightly less flowy to laminate than e, but no heavier. The boards are really tough. Probably the main reason it is not more common is the cost, but it's strength is better matched to epoxy than e. I've also played around with innegra and basalt laminations, but the s glass seems good enough (actually basalt is pretty comparable but much harder to laminate since it is dark and you see every fiber, sand through, etc).

[@jamesroscoe7555]

@@jt3366 Also, with weight, the board is floating the mass of the board plus rider. I'm sure pros are hyper tuned in to feel the board lightness doing airs etc, but a lb difference in a board is a pretty small percentage of the total mass of board +rider. I'm from Canada and this time of year, we add an extra 10 lbs of soaking wet 6/5/4, boots, and gloves. I agree with you, I'd rather have a stronger board than have a super lightweight board that is easy to ding.

[@jamesroscoe7555]

@@jt3366 I agree completely, especially riding comparable boards back to back. I mostly added that because human weight was left out of the discussion in the video where he talks about how deep a board sits in the water (poly vs EPS). What he says is true, but the human (+ suit) weight variation can dwarf it. We often put on or lose weight gradually and maybe adapt before we notice.

[@rog86]

Your podcasts are awesome boys. Really fun and insightful, and all your sense of humours are ace. Good effort!

[@kaipomeller1449]

Longboarder here, I found the lightness of the epoxy made it harder to get into waves when there was solid offshore winds.

[@trotts1885]

Yeah same

[@KerbsHI]

Less weight fights you paddling into solid offshore. Like holding a piece of paper in the wind vs a book.

[@ScottLaffin]

I like most of the surfers on Pyzel's boards and have thought about getting one or two myself. While, honestly I have never considered the environmental impact of surfboards themselves (guess I am just a bad person), hearing Pyzel be so honest about the negative impact and not sugarcoat it shows so much integrity, which I am sure is carried throughout his whole business. Guess I will need to pull that trigger on a purchase soon.

[@indicaHaze7]

I daily a phantom and love it

[@krusher74]

or you could support you local shaper.

[@hman7236]

Great Show guys live and direct with Master P..

[@surfamateur114]

Fn AWESOME GUYS PYZEL HIMSELF SO GNARLY I LOVE IT KEEP IT GOING WITH THE PODCAST GREAT MOVE

[@motolitho1]

46:42 holy crap who's got the edit... the question marks on Nate... on point. So funny.

[@CODzaneified]

This has quickly became my favourite podcast. So entertaining from start to finish, good stuff guys!!

[@rideboards]

hahahahahaha the blank stare and ????????? when Pyzel is talking about the science behind epoxy boards so funny

[@agustinnn96]

thank you! been waiting for this one, you make working so much easier for me. Cheers from Argentina

[@JammaLamma]

Stoked for this you guys just need a little studio and good mics. Good stuff looking forward to more.

[@diogobridges]

Nate/Koa, thanks for making us feel part of these conversations (🍵🦶) guys, full authenticity! Just getting better at every new episode from this Podcast that looks like a Vlog that sounds like a Podcast. 👾 "Audience feedback" 🎬Chapter markers would be a nice feature to have ,)

[@deanquady9787]

So many of my questions answered! Thanks guys, great work.

[@beargraves7045]

You should get podcasting microphones to get rid of the background noise and better the audio quality 👍

[@Lilmisshotrod1]

Awe, I Love To Hear Your Hawaiian Birds!!! Shine On⬆️🤙

[@wasabiginger6993]

Loved this podcast! Just wished we could have been shown the boards talked about. Anyways, it helped bring me more up to date because to be honest all I can remember was my ‘66 Brewer 9’2 baby gun that I practically slept with every night. It was my only board and was sooo gorgeous. I never surfed Laniakea or Himalayas over 7-8’ so never got out of it all it could do, but who cares. And I loved this podcast because it reminded me of how much loved to hang out with the guys, especially in surf shops … resin & catalyst was my Home … used to fix my own dings. Nate & Koa, just love you guys because you are just so open and don’t try to be anything else than who you really are. Hugs from Kona

[@damiengreaves2073]

So cool to see your podcast up and running have binge watched all your episodes and your episode with Bert from last year today. Doing awesom much love from Australia

[@madal55]

Neat hearing how odd shapers are. Fit right in with mad maniacs like RCJ, Chapman, looney cops, etc. Keep the good vibes, laughs coming. Great stuff.

[@vibwadeharrington9104]

John ‘the foot ‘ pyzel…. Can’t unsee 😂 love the videos!

[@Sol_Weird]

Loved this one....How does pyzel keep up with making so many boards for so many different people. Good thing he's got Mia back at the shop to help out...

[@beatrizpretti7523]

This is amazing, keep doing it guys! So Cool

[@brandonstaab5651]

Oboz shoe company also plants a tree for every pair of shoes sold... Awesome seeing companies like Pyzel looking at the big picture and giving back where they can!

[@emilianoespinoza9803]

Just to bring some clarification to the EPS and PU foam blank environmental implications, PU foam is known as a thermoset, meaning once it's formed the bonds can't be broken and remolded. So when you make a PU blank, that petroleum-based product can't be recycled again into another product so all that's left for it to do is just take hundreds of years to biodegrade. However, EPS is a thermoplastic, meaning it doesn't create any chemical bond during curing that prevents it from being recycled again into another product. So what makes EPS foam blanks more environmentally friendly is the fact that it's recyclable and can be used again, whereas PU foam blank is unrecyclable and can't be used again. The biodegradability of both of these petroleum-based products is horrible and takes hundreds to thousands of years to biodegrade and usually break down into microplastics that can potentially end up harming marine and land species, but at least EPS foam can be used again and again so we don't have to keep sourcing and creating new foam blanks. The surfing industry needs to create a sourcing point in which surfers can send or drop off old blanks to be responsibly dealt with, or even recycled to be used again if it's an EPS blank. It's important as stewards of the ocean that we as a surfing community inform and educate ourselves of the implications of the very tool, surfboards, we use to commune with mother earth. Much love to everyone!

[@justinszuch6184]

I am not a surfer and I never tried, so you are doing a great job at the podcast to keep my attention with a shaper and 2 surfers. 🤙

[@koreannederr5593]

Huh!🤙

[@joaopedrosousa8469]

top podcast in the world at the moment, unmatched

[@goncalopina2479]

Top one, keep going! cheers from Portugal

[@mikegrayable]

Great interview boys! Koa’s a natural with asking legit questions. Love y’all’s podcast! 🤙🏼

[@peters219]

Great stuff. Thank you! I was completely engrossed. I know some non-surfer friends whose eyes would glaze over. That was good surfer content in its purest form. Please keep it going. I vote Healey as a guest and discussions around a holistic approach to health/mind and other activities etc... Classic edit too.

[@michelemeixner7604]

This was so fun! I was hanging out alone tonight and saw this podcast show up in my yt feed and i thought this could be good, and it was!! I havent laughed this much in a long time. Thanks you guys. I love each of your channels and I am a fan of your podcast :)

[@johnscatcherd9928]

Great show one thing I was amazed that Pizel never talked about is when Foam Clarke was shut down and the surfboard industry. Love hearing his background and his knowledge on shaping. Pizel Pop Can. Nate get that back healed. Koa grats on the best wave at the Backdoor shoot out. I guess the Coconut Wireless Nate and Koa you guys don't get Coconut wireless is communication.

[@didmachado]

Very good video. Please post more like this about board selection in different kind of waves that you surf and also size and volume of your boards. Very helpful! Thanks

[@FromTheMosh]

Another great podcast. Thanks for always explaining things in further detail for more amateur surfers.

[@bbwvelvet]

Awesome! Loved it Thanks

[@surfridergoku]

Only in Hawaii would you react: “avocado” 😂

[@huonbyrne-ockerby852]

Where was this in the video, think I missed it

[@Lilmisshotrod1]

Mahalo, For Unkle, "The Born Maniac!" Love You SO🤗! Yeeeew 🤙

[@rpcorp]

Excellent episode!!🤙🏼🤙🏼

[@scottvanderlinden118]

Wicked! A natural knowledge comedy combo that makes it easy to stay and not skip through No pro but… I like it cheers 🍻🇦🇺

[@mosyd8973]

Wish you’d finished your / jp’s thoughts on the phantom!

[@MD-jf1ml]

I know nothing about surfing. One video idea would be a rundown on all the types of boards & why you choose one over another. Keep it up! Great pods so far 🙌

[@Jesssaaaa]

Ayyy what a sick first guest!! You guys fucking around at the beginning was just what I needed after a shitty day ♡

[@beachman1221]

Excellent, don't stop it works what you're doin🤙🤙

[@johnostevens7530]

When is the Bread Stick coming? 🤣🤣🤙

[@wildhareonthegulfofmexico3539]

That was fun, super cool.

[@wildhareonthegulfofmexico3539]

And, FUCK that quad cop.

[@rickybecklund2488]

Hell ya number 5 in the books .stoked

[@jpn0466]

Get so stoked for these podcasts

[@Spoo_D]

I’ve commented this before but wanted to throw out the suggestion again: I’d love to see this on Spotify or audio version only. Would be perfect for while I’m at work or walking my dog! Cheers

[@krusher74]

you could just play the youtube video on your phone in your pocket.

[@Spoo_D]

@@krusher74 This is true and sometimes what I do, but youtube just kills battery so much faster than spotify, even with the screen off sadly.

[@TheKalebdoes]

I could listen to Pyzel talk all day.

[@rogerpye1865]

Great episode. Love the banter. 👍

[@tomthumb4153]

Ok, so you need a name for your sessions here. “ Dropping in” with Nate and Koa. Your welcome 😇

[@koreannederr5593]

Only not really cool tho....😅

[@dnavarr8dnavarr830]

do epoxies go good in stiffer, say offshore, winds or trades?

[@christianlundstrom9918]

I've been following your podcast since watching you 2 with Bert. But I've been waiting for this podcast. I've seen pyzel in some of your videos. I'm so glad you guys did this podcast. Pyzel is so cool

[@NateAndKoaPodcast]

stoked thanks for supporting and subscribing

[@Chip_in]

Love your podcasts ❤️⛳

[@hman7236]

I saved up and brought a Pyzel sits catching dust on the mantle due to the grind.

[@camaroness]

Thanks for this great podcast!

[@Cabrinhakite]

Such an Awesome podcast with Pyzel he’s so funny 😅

[@tubethis777]

Such a great idea, subscribed, keep it smart, fun, hyped and no product placement, just surfing, and discuss footage of your podcast while in the water

[@jansmith3158]

wondering if that is Koa's table from his house or if John Pyzel has the same table & coasters.

[@mitchellvangrieken3900]

I also noticed this and am curious

[@dallasbolton]

Yessaah stoked for a new episode🤙

[@AndrewCooperr]

Pyzel makes the best boards no debate. His boards are game changing.

[@MarleyOrdonezPOV]

26:55 I just burst out in nonstop laughter from Nates face 😂

[@nickhoward9343]

Glad to hear you’re on the mend Nathan I reckon 3 to 4 weeks take it easy

[@jeremykeys2590]

Keep up the great work!!!

[@shanejordan575]

Been waiting.....Thanks guys!

[@mendelwhiteproductions6758]

Ye blody ep,5 so sick like im stoked ,

[@jul1us_tv]

Phantom is an awesome board! Better for average surfer then ghost imo :) great podcast, love the casual vibez

[@jayswartz]

Great Podcast!

[@bi0008]

I just saw a photo of the White Tiger in Miller's. Looks fun

[@sunset2211]

Such a good episode!

[@randysiler7458]

With all the negative crap in the world going on. That conversation you guys had was awesome. 👍👍

[@ODL957]

Great job guys

[@justintindel9271]

Nate and Koa ripping in and out of the water! YEW

[@andresmeloso8106]

Definitely the number 1 guest of all time!!! Where's the, "Bread Stick"?

[@JMH33SD]

Love the simple format of these "podcasts"... love the info, Pyzel is a great guest. Always great hearing from different shapers and their theories on boards but.... come on, make Koa at least one breadstick. Even if it's a ghost or setup just name it a breadstick, he'll break it soon enough. Nate, still feel for you missing the Eddie. You will redeem yourself in glorious fashion and stand tall on that mountain

[@frankymacf]

Nate!! PLEASE do a even a little bit to improve the audio quality of this podcast! The background noise makes it hard to listen to, especially with headphones.

[@kestreltrimaran6640]

Hey Pyzel...I glassed a Rice cake with UV poly resin... seems like it would go good, but hard to find the recipe for blowing rice-cake blanks... let's try it!