5 countries, no Irish and a surprise at 10 - The JOEpan Rugby Show's Team of the World Cup

Jerry Flannery picks his team of the World Cup, with a few surprises in there...

[@wezvandez]

The irony is that the Bok front row would still outscrum this bunch, so too their replacement front rowers...

[@garyodriscoll7988]

Wez van Dez facts!!

[@Kombo-Chapfika]

The lack of Boks, who won the thing, makes the selection look a bit unmerited, particularly in the front row.

[@hammerhiem75]

In my pre tournament predictions I noticed that I had South Africans as the second choice in every position in the pack. The consistency of their strength overwhelms the individual brilliance of other teams.

[@garyodriscoll7988]

Beeeeast!!!

[@tomkelly5315]

leinster would beat sa

[@joshuakriegler8013]

you are a fuck

[@calvingroenewald2497]

tom kelly cute

[@grahamedwards105]

The Boks had the best line out and scrum in the tournament but not one in the tight 5? Lost 1 line out the whole tournament.

[@greenplasticgun]

I really love how few Boks are in so many teams of the tournament. It shows how few stars they have but what a solid, cohesive team they are.

[@jan7539]

Probably the best glass half full view ever. Good attitude👏

[@bjornvonduring5967]

Seems like these lads would also have removed their medals after the game...clearly not watched same tournament

[@LB_die_Kaapie]

Just sounds like a lot of salt from the so called pundits

[@greenplasticgun]

@@LB_die_Kaapie I dunno, I think they're being honest about their selections. It's just that we play so much as a team, no one stands out much more above the rest that they draw attention. Obvs people like PSDT and Kolbe, but I think players like Kolisi, Duane, Mapimpi and Damian we all as good, so it's a very even team, hence no individuals really make it into the tournament teams a whole lot, save PSDT and Kolbe.

[@StevenBenjaminAuthor]

@@greenplasticgun I hear you, but I also think that the Boks are a lot better than most people think... Its, I believe what will 'disturb' the world in years to come. Also on Flannery's pick of Joe Moody cos of what he did against the Boks - but the first game Moody's elbow was on the ground for every scrum (???), meaning the Boks couldn't demonstrate their dominance ... guess we could say Moody was clever since he didn't get caught

[@darrenholliday7670]

I disagree slightly on Moody. Malherbe had the upper hand in that first game, Moody lost his bind quite a few times but went unpunished by Garces.

[@jms9105]

When he picked Maro Otoje and Scott Barret over any of Etzeveth, Mostert, Wyn Jones, Snyman or Ratalik or Lood DeJager demonstrates that this dude is just sore, sour and salty.

[@interestedbystander196]

Itoje is a decent pick, but I agree that any of Etzebeth, De Jager, Snyman should have been the other lock.

[@jandreneethling5664]

I’m a Springbok supporter and nearly stopped this video when the tight 5 were done but I thought let’s give it a crack to the end... It surprised me listening to the the choices and the reasons thereof and I must say I was not disappointed in the end. The argument about the overall playing minutes dictating the choices in the tight 5 for me is valid especially once the comments about PSDT was done. It made me take my Bokke cap off and really think about what was the principle ideology behind these choices. This was a completely different take on anything else I’ve seen so far and hats of to that. Personally I disagree with more than half of it but it is certainly valid within the holistic context of the RWC. Well done!

[@nowelaZA]

As a South African, I don't have a problem with the lack of Boks in this list. They never set the tournament on fire until the final and other teams really caught the eye throughout. It doesn't mean the Boks don't have great players, this is just about the most impressive players over the course of the WHOLE tournament. It doesn't matter, most of us are just grateful for the win and are enjoying the celebrations still 😁

[@theultimatesharpshooter6734]

The point was that SA never played their best game until it mattered. Where as NZ played their best against Ireland, Eng against NZ and SA against ENG

[@2Pluss3]

TheUltimate SharpShooter I believe NZ played their best game in the opener. Ireland were decidedly weak. Was more worried about Japan in 1/4’s.

[@larrymeyer2917]

Guess the Boks are happy to have Rassie as the Coach, your selection was simply emotional. How can you exclude the Beast. When he came out of the first loose scrum smiling and sweat pouring, it gave me confidence they had England beat. Now don’t think I’m taking anything away from the whole pack.....simply awesome. So..so many Boks to mention and they were rewarded with honours.Win up front and you can win the game...PERIOD.... Jones said it .... a new thinking was forced into rugby. Why have a bench if you don’t use them effectively and nobody in my many years of watching this game ever did it better than Rassie. To be so committed to a plan over a tournament, got to give it to him. While all the other coaches focused on the specific game, Rassie focused on the Final with a team that can be beaten but you will have to outsmart the game plan and no coach did. So give it to the team for sticking to it, a team sport while you stick to the game plan. No individual heroism.

[@stevendebeer3840]

I love the way everybody underestimate the Boks... The Boks love to proof people wrong...

[@josephcoleman6047]

Why are the Irish so salty that the Boks won? You'd swear they think England won the WC 😂 The Springboks would smash this forward pack in a scrum and maul.

[@interestedbystander196]

The Irish feel that they are the only team that's allowed to wear green. 😎🏉

[@isabellab2239]

For a team that has never made it out of the quarterfinals 🙄

[@janniemeyer9951]

Front row? Moody? NZ held up because of Garcés. Dropped arm several times. Moody was chosen for mobility. The Beast demolished the Lions in SA years ago. Kitshoff not far behind.

[@elduderino3236]

No Boks in the tight 5?? Are you out of your mind?!

[@haggiesm]

It's interesting to me that the main reasoning with the selections had to do with attack and very little with defense. Which may explain why there aren't more Springboks in the team.

[@theofilusbouwer3430]

South Africa scored 33 tries

[@TheChate7]

Guys dont be salty about the picks! Thanks for the content! We are champions ouens, in our minds every bok is number 1 XD

[@bliksempiemoerdyk6605]

This is why the north don't want a world season with a world tournament. Their mobile forwards will get their arses handed to them all the time.

[@darthmong7196]

Why WOULD there be any Irish? 1-31 they were decidedly average.

[@interestedbystander196]

Er, Tuilagi and Billy V were both in the England team. They clearly weren't "hard to play against".

[@lii114]

As a SA fan this ain't accurate at all , our scrums are strong and y'all just can take it

[@lii114]

It's to much for you to see the underdogs scrum you speechless.

[@cobusbrits2]

I have seen many of Flannery's commentaries on the RWC but while he seems knowledgeable in some aspects, he has a tendency to teem and loves his own voice and opinion. I get the idea that his 'alternative' team is just that - trying to be different just for the sake of it. When you see the likes of 'elbow on the floor Joe Moody' and Biggar who's missed the tackle on De Allende who scored the try costing Wales a spot in the finals at the end, then you cant take this selection seriously. And no matter the tight 5 of the Boks only playing half the game, that is not their fault but an astute coaches strategy, would you penalize a player for that? Like so many of the pundits that predicted an England win, it would always come to this class of punditry as a big surprise when the likes of SA spanked the in vogue blue eyed favourites. If you want allround knowledgeable commentaries, rather look to channels such as Hakatime that does in-depth analysis. I would put Flannery in the same bracket as Matt Dawson who wouldnt put one Springbok in the England team before the final. Maybe Flannery should just put a sock in it and listen to Felix Jones who sat close to the fire and learn how it is done rather than shooting the breeze.

[@kagishomokoena2120]

Biggar?

[@cobusbrits2]

Lol, remembered Biggar standing hands in his hair when he could not tackle De Allende when he scored his try.

[@rodrox174]

No beast ....lol

[@larrymeyer2917]

I’ll say it again, The Beast was not necessarily the best in the first 10 Minutes of the game but Man he gave it to them.... how can I exclude the whole front row. But that look on his face coming out of the loose scrum said everything. “We’ll grind them and take them out of the game”. And by the time he went off the field in the 43 minute, England were done, the final plan went into action and the boys showed who they are....WINNERS

[@theofilusbouwer3430]

It's true disaster for boks😅😅😅 Only been able to achieve in 2019: 😄 Number ONE in world rankings 😃WIN rugby championship (which between sa, nz and aus share 8 of 9 world cup trophies) 😅WIN world cup 😄IRB PLAYER OF THE YEAR 😃IRB TEAM OF THE YEAR 😃IRB Coach of the year. So not featuring in your fantasy rugby team is a great disappointment for boks 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😁

[@desireewatson4587]

Can we say 'sore looser'!

[@kbb6279]

...still love the Irish!🇿🇦

[@ruhanvandermerwe8461]

This is probably the worst rugby show on KZbin. Enjoyed the Hask and Tindell alot more

[@ryanwaugh1]

I think the boks would beat this team

[@PAULO-px3or]

Come on ! South Africa showed the world how to scrum in a World Cup final and not a South Africa in the tight 5 ! Pathetic choices

[@bosstrading928]

Are you a high level pro coach??

[@PAULO-px3or]

Boss Trading I’m not a high level coach but you can see he has no clue what he is talking about. Loading the team with European players yet the won nothing. Just think about it . The tight 5 is so important yet he has players that did nothing. Picking players that only played well against the blind. The South Africa locks and front row were enormous yet he picks English players that were on reverse gear in the final. No wonder teams from Europe win nothing apart from one World Cup. (1out of 9 )

[@PAULO-px3or]

L B he is Irish ? Now I understand why he picked a bad team. I’ll excuse him 😂😂

[@len2son]

@@PAULO-px3or They have chosen a team that the boks can easily outscrum, even though they had a chance to choose the best. Weird!!

[@PAULO-px3or]

Onepeople Carlin nothing weird! It’s a Irish man picking. No wonder they win nothing

[@interestedbystander196]

Er, Tuilagi and Billy V were both in the England team. They clearly weren't "hard to play against".

[@business3867]

Lol there are more English forwards in the team than South Africans? What are they on? Imagine choosing Maro Itoge over Etzebeth/Retallick

[@katatonickiwi8310]

To be fair, Retallick never really got going after the RC shoulder injury, until the play off for third. That cancelled game may have been a curse for him.

[@LB_die_Kaapie]

The salty irish again! SA front row was the best in the comp. This guy is the saltiest guy in punditry. Joke ting! Quarter finals!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂! No point in watching once he said no Boks in front row smh

[@donalcorley8151]

L B salty Irish?have you even seen the comments?

[@tomkelly5315]

ireland are better at rugby then sa

[@donalcorley8151]

tom kelly are you on drugs?

[@tomkelly5315]

@@donalcorley8151 what a strange question to ask. No i dont do drugs. Are drugs common in your family?? why would you ask that question unless it is common in your life. Has your mother a drug problem or someone in your family a junkie?

[@donalcorley8151]

tom kelly because if youre not on drugs then you should be in an asylum because its horseshit

[@janniemeyer9951]

The Springboks will drill your pack. You can’t penalize players because of good management.

[@len2son]

These Newfies clearly know nothing about picking a forward pack. Rassie would have a good laugh.

[@georgebabs7027]

Seriously? No South African in the tight 5 two from England and a player from Japan. Both teams their packs were shunted by Springboks! Mtawarira pureshoe in Marx or Mbonambi should be there. You are out to lunch

[@lincolnhargreaves28]

Joe moody? The guy who blatantly put his had on the deck 4 5 consecutive scrums against the Boks and didn't get penalised everytime? I think at least 2 Bok players should've been in the tight 5. Probably mtawarira and etzebeth

[@janniemeyer9951]

South Africa lost 1 line out whole tournament. Where are they?

[@joedotie]

Anyone Fla left out? Anyone who shouldn't be in there? Let us know in the comments below! For a review of the World Cup Final, check out Episode 13 of The JOEpan Rugby Show - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXS4kpdqadiZp9k

[@duncangravy9939]

De Allende defence was far superior to Manu and he made far more meters and created far more panic in the opposition backline. Every other selection has DeAllende there and most have Beast up front. Beast showed his power and was reminiscent of when he scrummed Phil Vickery into the ground on the lion tour 2009. I get what he is saying about the subs but in the final the damage was already done.

[@2Pluss3]

Lost some respect for Flannery on this one. Esp. Regarding forwards which should be his strength.

[@2Pluss3]

Bok pack would still take this one.

[@ryanwaugh1]

Joke these guys. Got the prediction so badly wrong and now this team so badly wrong.

[@hannesgreeff2706]

As a South African when he started nameing all the scrum halfs I shit my self when he said de klerk😑

[@aleccastro4761]

just came here to make sure Farrell wasn't on the list. Wasn't disappointed.

[@Heinrichdouglas1]

Stopped watching when the front row choices were made, lol, perhaps we were watching different tournaments

[@rohp1283]

Anti South African pundit

[@janniemeyer9951]

Sinkler not tested by Springboks.

[@varnster9438]

The Boks were “ok” throughout and exceptional in the final. This is team of the tournament not team of the final game.

[@wezvandez]

Varnster 94 an ‘okay’ team that scored more points than any other team plus 11 more tries than England...

[@varnster9438]

Wez van Dez I’m not being down on them they did well . But they lost to the ABs and really struggled against an understrength Wales. Japan gave them bit of a scare for a while. Just saying, till the final there wasn’t really a glittering performance which I think is fair. They were massive underdogs with the bookies because of that. Fair play for a fantastic tactical masterpiece in the final though and deserved winners.

[@josephcoleman6047]

@@varnster9438 Lol 'ok'? so salty... Most points in the WC. We smashed Japan who beat Ireland. And tbh, Wales was our final, not England.

[@varnster9438]

Joseph Coleman really not trying to be. Giving the credit for the final. Wales game was a bad advert for rugby so wouldn’t big that one up. Seems the saltiness is coming from your side. Just in the context of what this video is trying to do, SA had few “stars of the show” till the last game and even there it was more a coaching victory. I’m really not trying to detract. The final was a lesson of team tactics backed up by talent that deserved the win. I would still say that any of the top three could beat each other on any given day, it’s good that it’s close now... hopefully the rest will catch up..

[@josephcoleman6047]

@@varnster9438 I'll say it again, most points and tries in the WC. Only conceded 4 tries in the entire WC. Yes, the top 3 is tight but Boks are Champs and deserved winners.

[@interestedbystander196]

Wait a minute, so he's saying that the Saffers, clearly the best front row in the tournament, don't belong in the team because they didn't play enough?

[@janniemeyer9951]

Atoje just mobile. Too short. Better flank.

[@smurffoo3422]

Underhill

[@luyolomify]

To the Irish England won the Rugby World Cup.

[@2Pluss3]

Cartoon Master lost for words. Laugh a minute! Lol, haha and all that.

[@tempershot6311]

This guy knows his stuff!

[@2Pluss3]

Yeah right! Not!

[@Gerhard2770]

As a South African, i would not choose a single Springbok in the team, but the effect of a TEAM, is way greater than the sum of individual brilliance.

[@hedon_alt]

That is true, but I don't see how you can look past Pieter-Steph du Toit and Cheslin Kolbe.

[@interestedbystander196]

True. I'd say in terms of out and out "stars", SA didn't have too many, except for Kolbe. But you need to consider what a "star" is. If it is about a player that other teams wished he was theirs, then SA have got at least 10. Kolbe, Mapimpi, Vermeulen, De Allende, De Klerk, De Jager, Du Toit, Snyman, Pollard, Marx, Kitsoff, and The Beast. From and England supporter. Swing low, baby! 🏉🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@2Pluss3]

Interested Bystander certain individuals get noticed because they stand out in their team. One could argue that the two Bok packs were so good that no one stood out.

[@2Pluss3]

Quentin du Plessis could add Beast to that list.

[@interestedbystander196]

@@2Pluss3 Amen, brother! Those two tight five sets as units were awesome, pretty much in any combination.