5 Craziest Shield Walls in Films | Part II

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@GenerationFilms
@GenerationFilms 3 жыл бұрын
Check out our Realistic Shield Walls video here >>> kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2OQcpWGpZx1jtE
@mr.nifler4602
@mr.nifler4602 3 жыл бұрын
Okay! Will do!
@drrohanjacob
@drrohanjacob 9 ай бұрын
What happened to part 1 of this video?
@satnav9699
@satnav9699 3 жыл бұрын
The best shield wall if from the HBO tv series ROME, they actually recycle the people at the front so they don't get too tired.
@shakymcjitters5882
@shakymcjitters5882 3 жыл бұрын
That was a good one!
@Kellethorn
@Kellethorn 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember that!! That was really good. I loved them showing the Centurion(?) blowing the whistle too to cycle the lines. Very cool.
@samwessels8216
@samwessels8216 3 жыл бұрын
put them in a shredder, melt them and recast them? sound about right
@99PMoon
@99PMoon 3 жыл бұрын
It's still used today by U.S. forces, but on a larger scale.
@xJ0LLYR0GERx
@xJ0LLYR0GERx 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the only truly accurate depictions of shield wall and combat.
@nathanheenan3001
@nathanheenan3001 3 жыл бұрын
"total war is a great way to get yourself into real-life lore." ah yes, history... or as the cool kids call it, 'real-life lore'
@novikovPrinciple
@novikovPrinciple 3 жыл бұрын
"Historian"? No, call me "Lorekeeper-slash-Archivist".
@braith117
@braith117 3 жыл бұрын
I guess it's better than learning it from Dynasty Warriors.
@thewarlockgr6076
@thewarlockgr6076 3 жыл бұрын
Actually ,for the battle of the Red Cliffs "real-life lore" is a better way to describe it than the word "history". For that specific battle (and for the entire Three Kingdoms period) there are speculations that they are a legend more than a fact, like the Trojan War
@chuckn4851
@chuckn4851 3 жыл бұрын
@@thewarlockgr6076 I mean the Trojan War was an actual historical occurrence in the Mycenean era of pre-history though
@thewarlockgr6076
@thewarlockgr6076 3 жыл бұрын
@@chuckn4851 Well it is but things have not happened as Homer or the others said, there are myths and legends and 9th-8th century BC facts all mixed together in pieces of art. Myth and truth collide meaning we are not taking about history but about speculation. I mean multiples layers of Troy found and there are somewhat solid proof that sometime a big war may destroyed one version of the city, but still we are not at a fact level. The Trojan War as we know is a myth depicted by pieces of art. More than less something similar happened with the Three Kingdoms Era(there differences of course but i just made an example)
@Centaur255
@Centaur255 3 жыл бұрын
Really glad to see Red Cliff on the list - one of the most creative uses of shield walls in cinematic history
@Omega0850
@Omega0850 3 жыл бұрын
True, but its also one of the most ridiculous ones!
@hellfish2309
@hellfish2309 3 жыл бұрын
@@Omega0850 never let reality get in the way of a good time ... really disappointed they didn’t cite the beginning of the formation 🪞, but spoilers for sure
@Lucivius27
@Lucivius27 3 жыл бұрын
Curse of the Golden Flower uses a literal moving wall as a shield to stop the usurper army. That final battle was crazy ridiculous and fun to watch.
@koreancowboy42
@koreancowboy42 3 жыл бұрын
The formation used in Red Cliff is called "Eight Docked gates" or also known as turtle formation. It's also used in the three kingdoms. The three kingdoms 2010 TV show showed alot of formation usage its rare to see it tho as u gotta go through several episodes.
@Intranetusa
@Intranetusa 3 жыл бұрын
@@koreancowboy42 The formations in Red Cliff movie are mostly fictional or a very poor representation of real world formations. The Eight Gates Golden Locks Formation is a fictional formation invented by the Romance of the Three Kingdoms historical fiction novel. There was a real life "eight formation" used in the Three Kingdoms period, but it wouldn't have resembled anything in the movie. Reddit's Ask-historians subreddit has a recent thread about this in a post submitted by Iphikrates entitled: "The decisive battle in Red Cliff (2007) involves a sophisticated maze of moving infantry formations to trap enemy cavalry. Does this have any basis in warfare of the Three Kingdoms period?"
@GoranXII
@GoranXII 3 жыл бұрын
That shield wall in 'Red Cliff' has no spears and is one man thick. There's no way those cavalry will be stopped by that, they'll just pound straight through it.
@koreancowboy42
@koreancowboy42 3 жыл бұрын
Has no spears? Yet they have halberds its the same thing also red cliff movie doesn't show it as effective due to the very poorly done unit sizes. Check out three kingdoms they have alot of extras and have done it even better. Also those cavalry would be stopped cuz no horse would even charge into an braced heavy tower shield that's firmly planted on the ground let alone with halberds and spears ready to jab at the horse or rider. They didn't do enough to make the formation very effective So again I'd recommend 2010 three kingdoms TV show on KZbin. I forgot which episode it was but I'll search for it and give you the number episode also that it depends which Playlist of the three kingdoms 2010 you choose from cuz it differs.
@GoranXII
@GoranXII 3 жыл бұрын
@@koreancowboy42 No those are Gē ('dagger axes') not halberds. And no, the don't function like spears/pikes, they're far too short (a one-handed spear can reach up to 8' long, and a pike between 10' and 25' long), plus they don't have a spike on the end. And no, those _single lines of men_ wouldn't stop a cavalry charge IRL.
@NephTheNeph
@NephTheNeph 3 жыл бұрын
The barrier for the horses attacking the shield wall wasn't the shield wall but the horses in the middle being killed by the arrows. If you attack a single point on a cavalry formation with ranged weapons, the herd will be divided at this place. Especially if the lucky survivors that didn't got killed at this place lack the bravery or (more often) the mere ability to "steer" themselves and their horses into the arrows to close the gap. After dividing the herd you could think of the shield wall as a river and the gaps in it are golden bridges. It's like the herd being divided by a barrier to be channeled on the only possible path. With most cavalry tactics based on triggering the horses flight reactions it would be really hard to regain control of the horse against this flight instinct to flee through these gaps and to force it to run into a barrier.
@GoranXII
@GoranXII 3 жыл бұрын
@@NephTheNeph You have about one bowman for every three shield-men. That's not enough to lay down a wither barrage, and they can't even aim anyway, because they can't see through the shields.
@NOIDEAIWILLJUSTUSEHAILEYIGUESS
@NOIDEAIWILLJUSTUSEHAILEYIGUESS 3 жыл бұрын
LOL gotta love India and their hilarious action sequences! Never get tired of how over the top their battles are and its great.
@ibrahimjazeel2135
@ibrahimjazeel2135 3 жыл бұрын
Well its action done when the enemy absolutely hated and it makes us want punch him it give of a satisfaction
@eyesofstatic9641
@eyesofstatic9641 3 жыл бұрын
Omfg. Getting launching a shield man cluster bomb lol That is so awesome
@berniethekiwidragon4382
@berniethekiwidragon4382 3 жыл бұрын
@@eyesofstatic9641 I cannot take that seriously, but it was so much fun.
@prinstyrio0
@prinstyrio0 3 жыл бұрын
Makes me wish we got movies like that in the west. A lot is focused on more realistic and gritty settings with dialogue carrying it, but still wishing to have crazy action scenes, but in many they just turn into B movies with just "dumb action", rather than go all out on the action to ridiculousness and not take itself so seriously, turn it into literal entertainment than trying to be philosophically thoughtful.
@devvytm
@devvytm 3 жыл бұрын
"Hollywood is full of a bunch of overpaid ..." This line has gifted you yet another sub great sir!
@khazzen
@khazzen 3 жыл бұрын
Wakandans: how to prove that not always a good defense is a good offense.
@hellfish2309
@hellfish2309 3 жыл бұрын
Not to pile on the Coogler-CGI bashing, but I think the cloak wall would have looked far superior without the goofy glowing feature - like a fabric with programmable memory like the dark knight’s cape that forms a hardened barrier is already cool
@exploatores
@exploatores 3 жыл бұрын
I would rather say. this is what happen. when you are so full of it. when it comes to your own culture. that you don´t see any reason to look at anyonelse to change your tactics.
@nunya3163
@nunya3163 3 жыл бұрын
In this case, they had a poor offense, rather than a good one.
@VulpesChama
@VulpesChama 3 жыл бұрын
A good defense is a good defense. The only thing that an offense can offer is that you wouldn't be in need of a defense at all. Though this offense vs. defense is not meant for in-battle decisions. If you've build up your formation, you've already committed your army to a certain strategy and changing this on the fly into the opposite is most likely to fail badly. In the case of the Wakandans, they play into the strength of their opponent here: Thanos' army is made up of numerous swarming melee fighters and what do the Wakandans and Avengers do? Giving up their formation. This battle is absolutely bad thought through and too much focused on the heroes instead of what these heroes stand for. The Avengers goal would/should be to lose as few people as possible, but by countercharging they allow their enemy to use his strength to his advantage (the opening of the formation offers the chance for Thanos' troops to actually swarm every enemy soldier individually instead of fighting a coherent army) The only thing that saves a lot of Wakandans is the sheer overpowerdness of Thor and other Avengers, which begs the question, why is the Wakandan army there at all? The only answer is: They're meatshields. The Avengers use the Wakandan army as meatshields.
@nunya3163
@nunya3163 3 жыл бұрын
@@VulpesChama "A good defense is a good defense. The only thing that an offense can offer is that you wouldn't be in need of a defense at all." Not quite true. Even the best defense will be defeated given enough time. The good offense can deny the enemy the time needed to defeat that defense. Now in the case of Wakanda, they had relied on a very poor offense, and compromised their own defense.
@hellfish2309
@hellfish2309 3 жыл бұрын
Props to GenerationFilms for citing “Last Castle”: the most fitting movie for the US civics for 1980-present
@LeroxYT
@LeroxYT Жыл бұрын
It is such an incredible good film, i gotta say, i hated that ending...but its still a great film,
@nobleman9393
@nobleman9393 3 жыл бұрын
"We will hold the line!” - Captain Kirrahe
@zachchartier570
@zachchartier570 3 жыл бұрын
The first time I heard Mordin mock Kirrahe in the next game I lost my shit it just comes out of nowhere lol.
@Torlik11
@Torlik11 3 жыл бұрын
His speach is kinda over the top but damn, is it effective when you hear it for the first time.
@marleyjr00
@marleyjr00 3 жыл бұрын
Epic speech
@anonymousidn777
@anonymousidn777 3 жыл бұрын
Others: we have shield wall that protects us from weapon WH40K: We hAVE A SHIELD THaT PrOTectS US from HELL
@caedes4367
@caedes4367 3 жыл бұрын
others: we have a shield wall to protect our soldiers Krieg: We have a shield wall made out of soldiers
@Lightingwarrior
@Lightingwarrior 3 жыл бұрын
Here are some other shield wall formations from movies you haven't mentioned in either part one or two 1. Trojan Shield Wall and the Myrmidons Shield Walls from "Troy" 2. The Spartan Shield Wall from "300" 3. The Thracian Shield Wall from "Hercules 2014" 4. The Greek Shield Wall from "The Legend Of Hercules " 5. The Emperor's Army Shield Wall from "The Curse of the Golden Flower" 6. The Roman Shield Wall from "The Eagle" 7. The Roman and Gladiator Shield Wall from "Gladiator" 8. The Roman Shield Wall from "The Last Legion" 9. The Roman Shield Wall from "Centurion" 10. The Saxon Shield Wall from "King Arthur" 11 The Tao Tie Shield Wall from The Great Wall" Honourable Mention from TV Shows 1. The Viking Shield Wall from "Vikings" 2. The Saxon/Viking Shield Walls from "The Last Kingdom" 3. The Roman Shield Wall from "Rome" 4. The Roman Shield Wall from "Netflix Babarians" 5. The Templar Shield Wall from "Knightfall"
@Lightingwarrior
@Lightingwarrior 3 жыл бұрын
@Drifter Echo l meant Thracian, the stupid spell check changed it to the thebian
@Santisima_Trinidad
@Santisima_Trinidad 3 жыл бұрын
Knightfall is a TV show? I thought it was just a collection of background cinematics made for a deus Vult music album.
@Lightingwarrior
@Lightingwarrior 3 жыл бұрын
@@Santisima_Trinidad No its an actually tv show about the fall of the Templar knights though it only lasted 2 seasons the first season wasn't all that great, but the second one was much better, which was why I was a little sad it ended. The second season even has Mark Hamill playing a grizzle old badass veteran Templar Master named Talus
@Comicsluvr
@Comicsluvr 3 жыл бұрын
Trojan shield wall from Troy totally deserves the #1 spot on your list. Agamemnon was stupid. Sure...Troy could have hidden behind their massive walls but walls don't kill invaders...soldiers do. If the options are sitting out a siege or straight-up slaughtering the enemy...the second one will make them go home much faster!
@carloreytansiongco8741
@carloreytansiongco8741 3 жыл бұрын
If we're discussing stupid shield walls like the Gungan's. How about the Netflix's Dragon Prince's 3rd season, where fire elves formed a single layer shieldwall that somehow held against a wave of mutated human soldiers.
@ZackStormYT
@ZackStormYT 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to mention that the gungans outnumbered 20 to 1 using basically slingshots and trebuchets against tanks and automatic weapons held out for an incredible empresive amount of time.that was basically the equivalent of ancient Rome against the modern us military and the did quite a bit of damage so good job to the gungans
@michaelsandy2869
@michaelsandy2869 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite all time shield wall has to be the scene at the very start of Fellowship of the Ring, with the Last Alliance of Men and Elves standing against a titanic horde at Baradhur. You understand in seeing it how an outnumbered force can actually be pushing the orcs back to the point that Sauron gets desperate and comes out to fight himself.
@davevd9944
@davevd9944 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed amazing scene. But weren't they descendants of Numenor. A regular human is already bigger than regular orcs. And the Numenoreans were far larger. Like Boromir who was 195cm and Aragorn who was around 2M tall. Now imagine a shield wall by those giants.
@andrewsmall6834
@andrewsmall6834 3 жыл бұрын
I still say LITERALLY ANY regular standing Army would've been more effective against Thanos' Army of whatever they were.
@davevd9944
@davevd9944 3 жыл бұрын
Countless Tanks heavy artillery airstrikes concentrated fire from entranced infantry positions>Actual tactics. Wouldn't be fitting in a movie franchise about individuals just destroying everything willy nilly without thought thanks to overwhelming godlike or even literal godly powers. Owh and can't forget the ANGRY BOI that literally can end existence if he's mad enough.
@andrewsmall6834
@andrewsmall6834 3 жыл бұрын
@@davevd9944 It was well placed and well received in Transformers 2. If it works for giant space robots then it'll work for super heroes.
@davevd9944
@davevd9944 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewsmall6834 Indeed. But one franchise is about humans working together with machines to overcome strife...And Michael Bay with his boner for the militairy, American flag, and EXPLOSSSIONNSS. And the other one is about individuals so ridiculously powerful they can destroy entire nations. If Wakanda which is the most technological advanced country of the planet BY FAR. You'd expect they would have defensive cannons mechs vibranium power armor and actual gun/lasers.
@unknow11712
@unknow11712 3 жыл бұрын
give thanos a chance . i don't know about regular army , i mean, what would be the time reaction for an army like china or US to react to a similar invasion in one of theyr capitals ? i think the one to blame for wakanda weak use of theyr weapons and tech is isolationism and warrior culture . they had the most magic metal on earth and barely came up with spears that shot plasma and shields , bigger shields, dome shields . if they waged war against humanity , theyr standing army would have been of soldier with shieldsplate in theyr armor , tanks with frontal shields and mostly air superiority \ long range anti air . and where is the artilery ? ... if you considerate theyr infrastructure , and theyr flying cars that seems to have no need of big fueltank , they could have build spaceships \ spacestations shipyards, conquering the SOL system with all its resources . the more you think about wakanda , the more you get to hate wakanda . they are literaly the biggest waste of oxigen of the marvel universe .
@andrewsmall6834
@andrewsmall6834 3 жыл бұрын
@@unknow11712 Of course, they're just a pipe dream for people who think black people left to their own devices could actually accomplish something.
@ManuelDornbusch
@ManuelDornbusch 3 жыл бұрын
Red Cliff is most epic, but do yourself a favor: Do watch it uncut. That is two film parts, with a total running time of 288 minutes. If you watch the too often for western audiences cut version, you are missing out. If that means you have to get the Chinese version with English subtitles, as did I, do it. It is very much worth it.
@oldmanwillyboy2786
@oldmanwillyboy2786 3 жыл бұрын
I learnt that an excellent film makes subtitles disappear! I came out of the cinema after "Crouching Tiger" and someone asked me what I thought of the subtitles, and I replied "subtitles, what subtitles?" I truly hadn't noticed them, because the movie was so well made!........For years now, if I watch a foreign language film with a choice of Dubbed or Subs. I go Subs. everytime!
@prestonjones1653
@prestonjones1653 3 жыл бұрын
@@oldmanwillyboy2786 *casually brags about being better than everyone else*
@oldmanwillyboy2786
@oldmanwillyboy2786 3 жыл бұрын
@@prestonjones1653 Epsilon!
@ApostolosFilms
@ApostolosFilms 3 жыл бұрын
The 2 red cliff films are amazing. I saw it in China before it came out in North America. I was upset with its theatrical run but happy to see a bluray with the full film on there
@carloreytansiongco8741
@carloreytansiongco8741 3 жыл бұрын
This video's depiction of Wakanda just made me realize that regardless of technological prowess you get, centuries of belligerence is important for building military tradition and evolving tactics. So comically, Wakandan battle formations just make me think of Gungan battle formations. High technology on ancient models of warfare. Ever since Wakanda shut itself from the world in secret, barring the occasional ww1 to ww2 incursions, they have missed out on infantry and combined arms revolution. And just a disclaimer: I'm not being jingoistic, just pointing out a fascinating phenomenon of state, society, and ramifications to institutions such as the army.
@kongilian
@kongilian 3 жыл бұрын
Watched Red Cliff multiple times. Still think they were actually killing the extras.
@davevd9944
@davevd9944 3 жыл бұрын
Seen the extended versions I've seen many Asian movies but my god does Red Cliff does it a step further. If you told me countless extra's got injured and some even died I wouldn't be surprised.
@prestonjones1653
@prestonjones1653 3 жыл бұрын
Considering we just saw Jackie Chan take a chopper to the face, and he is the main guy in said movie, I'd be surprised if a few didn't.
@galaxysurfer1122
@galaxysurfer1122 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone know where I can find this film, or is this clip actually from Red Cliff 2 (which I Can find) ?
@Debbiebabe69
@Debbiebabe69 3 жыл бұрын
CGI is expensive. People are cheap.
@athras8822
@athras8822 3 жыл бұрын
I think a stuntman actually did die in the filming. It was when Huang Gai's fire ships crashed into Cao Cao's ships, they actually lit one of the ships on fire, but after they put out the fire, they were missing a stuntman who was on Cao Cao's ship.
@sarkath77
@sarkath77 3 жыл бұрын
Can we count the battle of Sigma Octanus IV as having a shield wall? The UNSC used orbital contruction platforms, which were little more than giant plates with robot arms attached, as shields to stop the Covenant's first volley of plasma torpedos.
@TechLeafRanger
@TechLeafRanger 3 жыл бұрын
I think something that needs to be taken into context with the Gungans though is that the whole point of their fight against the Trade Federation wasn't to win, but it was to hold out and distract. On that front they did their part and did it well. Not to mention the simple fact that despite not being overly exposed to outside technology, their own technology STILL held up against the technology superior Trade Federation. It was only the Trade Federation's numbers that actually allowed them to win that fight, not a inferiority on the part of the Gungan's technology. Their Faamba plasma shield generators stopped the weaponry of the AAT's and their personal shields did stop the Trade Federation battle droid's when their blasters hit the shields.
@mazdrpan4099
@mazdrpan4099 3 жыл бұрын
One correction: Horses WILL run into a wall of spikes if they dont SEE the wall of spikes (blinker hoods were a thing my dude) and if they are TRAINED to do so. This training and generations of careful breeding are main reasons medieval warhorses were literally worth their weight in gold.
@providedyeti1518
@providedyeti1518 3 жыл бұрын
And bc they were worth their weight in gold is precisely why it wouldn’t happen, they were expensive, and we see time and time again throughout history that horses can’t break a strong infantry force from the front, Hastings for example or Agincourt.
@mazdrpan4099
@mazdrpan4099 3 жыл бұрын
@@providedyeti1518 Times when heavy cavalry charge couldnt break infantry are an exception, not the rule.
@providedyeti1518
@providedyeti1518 3 жыл бұрын
@@mazdrpan4099 I agree, because cav almost always charged the rear or sides of a formation, those rare exceptions when they charged the front cav wouldn’t stand a chance, unless they were fight levy, or peasants.
@providedyeti1518
@providedyeti1518 3 жыл бұрын
We’re fighting*
@mazdrpan4099
@mazdrpan4099 3 жыл бұрын
@@providedyeti1518 Thats a common misconception. General rule in medieval period was that frontal cavalry charges were extremely effective against infantry. Frontally an armored knight on his armored warhorse in tight ranks is almost invulnerable. In every case where cavalry was beaten by infantry they were actually hindered by terrain or got outflanked themselves. Take for example Agincourt that you mentioned. French expected an easy victory against outnumbered english and charged across muddied terrain. Besides they couldnt flank even if they wanted to since the field was flanked by thick forest on either side. Their ranks were broken up by massive longbow barrage which didnt cause significant casualties but still blunted the initial charge. They got stuck in a melee in the mud that hindered their maneuverability and then english longbowmen flanked from the forrest and shot at french knights point blank. When they ran out of arrows longbowmen joined the melee.
@KillMachine_Rudra
@KillMachine_Rudra 3 жыл бұрын
Oye That red cliff strategy is actually Indian in origin called a Chakravyuh. Where you organise ur army in s circular fashion, keeping gates open for the enemy to move in and then close the gates or the openings to trap the enemy inside. Check the Mahabharata war timeline and you will get it. And it's Bahubali - the one with strong muscle power.
@marseldagistani1989
@marseldagistani1989 3 жыл бұрын
Prisoner shield Wall? Step: 1? Secure the Keys!
@marseldagistani1989
@marseldagistani1989 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigredwolf6 step 3? Unleash the horde!
@davevd9944
@davevd9944 3 жыл бұрын
@@marseldagistani1989 Nope it was RAIN FIIREEEE and then HOOOORDE
@marseldagistani1989
@marseldagistani1989 3 жыл бұрын
@@davevd9944 wasn't that the 4th step?
@jwoellhof
@jwoellhof 3 жыл бұрын
Red Cliff director/original/long cut. Almost every scene is a hero scene and most of them do not take place on the battlefield.
@Clee-os6pv
@Clee-os6pv 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I am glad? Red Cliff is on this list. I am also happy to see the 8 gate formation in action.
@Villmark1
@Villmark1 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, war horses where trained for charging straight into whatever The rider war steering them in
@unknow11712
@unknow11712 3 жыл бұрын
and the rider were trained to die by charging blindly ........... or not, horses cost as it was costly to train the riders . the horses trained to charge into death came after ( all horses that have blinders ) . during the classic period horses and raiders were barely used for cavalry charge in general .
@minhvo8009
@minhvo8009 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the French before Agincourt
@NephTheNeph
@NephTheNeph 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest most war horses were never really trained. Most riders neither. Most cavalry formations instead use the horses' herd instincts. For example the V shaping. The riders at the sides are trained and "steer" their horses into the group. By doing so they hold the group together while they also trigger the flight reaction of the horses in front of them. Because they get pushed by the herd from behind and from the sides into the herds - means predator is behind and at the sides. The only way to survive for the herd is to run straight forward. By that the flight reaction can overcome the fear of the single horse when facing the shield wall. Because without that no horse would run into a line of animals which it would let on its back. Or in any other barrier. But this horses have nowhere else to go. And think about it. Adequate training for horse and rider together take from months to years. And all for a war horse that would serve about 6 months if it is a lucky one - many will not survive a single battle...
@marleyjr00
@marleyjr00 3 жыл бұрын
Yo Red Cliff was an awesome movie. I didn't realize that I'd be watching a movie version of Dynasty Warriors.
@GenerationFilms
@GenerationFilms 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha exactly
@davidscoltock3970
@davidscoltock3970 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot Russia for extras. In the film Waterloo the soviet red army put enough extras onto the field to recreate BOTH sides!
@shakymcjitters5882
@shakymcjitters5882 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed these shield wall videos! Fun Fact, General Wellington used square formations at the battle of Waterloo in the same way as the shield wall from Red Cliff in order to counteract Napoleons cavalry.
@gwtpictgwtpict4214
@gwtpictgwtpict4214 3 жыл бұрын
Standard tactic against cavalry during the Napoleonic wars.
@lord2.0works
@lord2.0works 3 жыл бұрын
The moment I see Baahubali.... and Gungans (?) in the same video: *A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!*
@phydeux
@phydeux 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for spelling Baahubali. I wanted to look it up but had no idea how to spell it. 😁
@timvanrijn8239
@timvanrijn8239 3 жыл бұрын
Are we behind on racism or are we just having friendly familial rivals.
@WillowProductions
@WillowProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Why do gungans exclusively have anti droid weaponry as if they had always known that their one battle would have been against droids?
@dracthewanderer6871
@dracthewanderer6871 3 жыл бұрын
Less anti-droid and more anti-high tech weaponry. They certainly don't have friendly attitude towards invading Naboo colonizers and who knows how many centuries that might have been.
@BahalaNa9mm
@BahalaNa9mm 3 жыл бұрын
I understand the hesitation to think the 8 Gate formation may not work but didn’t Wellington’s Square Formation against Napoleon’s cavalry at Waterloo successful? Theoretically the same, no?
@blindoutlaw
@blindoutlaw 3 жыл бұрын
“Shields on me!” - First Spear Centurion, Lucius Vorenus, 13th Legion
@maddogdidi8460
@maddogdidi8460 3 жыл бұрын
Mhhh, sounds like an ultramarine
@sonofjack6286
@sonofjack6286 3 жыл бұрын
@@maddogdidi8460 It's from HBOs Rome.
@nobody6546
@nobody6546 3 жыл бұрын
PS- you are the ONLY ONE who ever mentioned the “ Open then Closed Gated “ Horse-charge “ Agenda. Kudos!
@astorlefflinker8417
@astorlefflinker8417 3 жыл бұрын
So glad Total War: Three Kingdoms got a mention in this vid. Such a great game. And yes you can try the 8 gates formation in the game, but it's very hard XD
@providedyeti1518
@providedyeti1518 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think most TW players would describe it as a great game
@astorlefflinker8417
@astorlefflinker8417 3 жыл бұрын
@@providedyeti1518 Steam reviews are very positive. Maybe Warhammer fans wouldn't like it, but 3k delves more in real conquest. If you're interested in the use of diplomacy, espionage, arranged marriages, trade, to win a conquest, then 3k is for you. If you're more interested in just straight up fights then maybe 3k isn't for you.
@providedyeti1518
@providedyeti1518 3 жыл бұрын
@@astorlefflinker8417 of course the steam reviews are positive it appeals to the masses while losing the charm of the older games. And I have hundreds of hours in the older TWs it’s not a problem with the type of game. I’m currently on a macedon campaign in Rome 2 and just finished an English game in ck3
@astorlefflinker8417
@astorlefflinker8417 3 жыл бұрын
@@providedyeti1518 You just contradicted yourself when you said that most TW wont agree its a great game and now youre saying of courses it appeals to the "masses" lmao. There are older 3k games? im not aware. Yep I know you said older TW games, but what I mean is its TW 3k, so you dont expect it to be exactly the same as the other TW games that you play.
@providedyeti1518
@providedyeti1518 3 жыл бұрын
@@astorlefflinker8417 I didn’t contradict myself, I said most TW players probably wouldn’t describe it as great, I probably should’ve elaborated and said original or og TW players but it’s not a contradiction
@gc6096
@gc6096 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad the last castle finally gets some recognition here.
@davevd9944
@davevd9944 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing movie a must watch for everyone.
@gc6096
@gc6096 3 жыл бұрын
@@davevd9944 indeed
@nosacredcows1810
@nosacredcows1810 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best depictions of what it would be like to actually fight in a shield wall is in the first season of The Last Kingdom. Where the camera is inside the shield wall so your seeing it from that perspective. It shows just how chaotic and down right terrifying it must have been to be in one.
@Justanothergamerboi
@Justanothergamerboi 3 жыл бұрын
I have to see Red Cliff now. That shield wall is epic!
@davevd9944
@davevd9944 3 жыл бұрын
I can't recommend an Asian war movie more than Redcliff. It's a 2 part movie and if possible check out the extended versions it has many extra great scenes more character development and shows good sides even from the enemy forces. Makes them more humane.
@RobertThompson1985
@RobertThompson1985 3 жыл бұрын
Well technically in Braveheart they didn't pull those spikes up until it was far too late for the horses to stop. But there were Mass Calvary charges against infantry units in medieval and ancient times
@PersonalityMalfunction
@PersonalityMalfunction 3 жыл бұрын
There were indeed. The charge of the light brigade at Balaclava comes to mind. Famous for being an incredibly stupid and wasteful thing to do and now included in the How Not to Use Cavalry manual.
@Lucivius27
@Lucivius27 3 жыл бұрын
@@PersonalityMalfunction What happen?
@Matheusoliveira-nv7xw
@Matheusoliveira-nv7xw 3 жыл бұрын
Running down peasants with no regard to their lives is actually a very kingly behavior. He's a king, peasants are barely alive, only there to beof use to him That's the mentality of the majority of kings over history
@2l8ent21
@2l8ent21 3 жыл бұрын
Guys N Gals A Great Video. Was A Random Selection But worth Every Minute !!!!! Thank You
@HovektheArtist
@HovektheArtist 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for reminding me of the name of the last castle One of my favorite films of all time
@행성연방
@행성연방 3 жыл бұрын
The 8gate formation may looks sily but it actually very effecitve formation from attacing enemy But as you guessed that formation is very hard to use First, you need to have more powerful ranged forces than enemy's forces because it's very Static formation Second, your army need to be 'VERY' well trained third, your army need even terrain
@GenerationFilms
@GenerationFilms 3 жыл бұрын
But the real question is have you tried it In total war three kingdoms
@행성연방
@행성연방 3 жыл бұрын
@@GenerationFilms many people tried it. They finally creat similar formation. and it worked find in battle, but it was impossible to make 'perfectly same' formation
@davevd9944
@davevd9944 3 жыл бұрын
@@행성연방 And can't forgot that the AI is so freaking retarded and a player would never go into the killing zones.
@행성연방
@행성연방 3 жыл бұрын
@@davevd9944 some formation is impossible to reenact in game...
@davevd9944
@davevd9944 3 жыл бұрын
@@행성연방 True that with current technology it's impossible. AI is ALWAYS a big issues for every game and Total War AI are notorious for being let's just say it.....Horrendous.
@nobody6546
@nobody6546 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you started with the semi-Basics. Might subscribe.
@x7RUTH
@x7RUTH 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who noticed the ERRA snowboard? Generation! Love your music choices! rock on!
@jalferguson5500
@jalferguson5500 3 жыл бұрын
Great take on the horses lol 😂
@anonymousrex5207
@anonymousrex5207 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see "The Last Castle" getting some props. Great movie for anyone who is a fan of military strategy.
@nobodycares6633
@nobodycares6633 3 жыл бұрын
War horses were specially trained to charge in enemy formation.
@charlespfaff6585
@charlespfaff6585 3 жыл бұрын
6:47 True! I've been overseas and seen this first hand. People need to travel more.
@AtomicBabel
@AtomicBabel 3 жыл бұрын
I've been overseas and experienced it first hand. People need to stop idolizing how great it is in Europe.
@adam346
@adam346 3 жыл бұрын
my concern about that statement is they are trying to diminish the racism experienced by people in the US by saying "it's not that bad" or "it's worse else-where". Even if he, or you, never say it, that is kinda of being outwardly implied.
@MrRoz121
@MrRoz121 3 жыл бұрын
@@AtomicBabel I’ve traveled the world twice and Europe for its highly diverse culture and landscape is very high on the list.
@AzraelThanatos
@AzraelThanatos 3 жыл бұрын
The battle droid army was largely B1 Battledroids, the OOM's were command units, with there only being a few of them there for the battle of Naboo
@stanostano6511
@stanostano6511 3 жыл бұрын
In reality the Czechs had a shield master named "Ján Žižka z Trocnova a Kalicha". He used armored wagons for defence against knights and fully trained soldiers. (I'm not a Czech.)
@RaviPatel-cj9wd
@RaviPatel-cj9wd 3 жыл бұрын
There are dozens of shield wall formation. Most of them taken from Ancient Indian history. The turtoise formation in red cliff, is actually The chakravyuh formation. The formation in Bahubali is also one of war formations called trident formation. Clearly this knowledge has been condensed in such a manner that we have to to literally piece it together to make sense. But overall their all brilliant formations in their own way.
@daringdarius5686
@daringdarius5686 3 жыл бұрын
I would just like to say that while Spot #4 was pretty crazy, it was mostly formed out of desperation, and not so much a crazy thought so much as "we don't have anything else"
@adammaximus9957
@adammaximus9957 3 жыл бұрын
They used to put blinders on horses so they would run into anything the rider wanted them to. They have to run along side and then shift into the line. Stirrups on a horse weren't in until Mongols came through with them I believe. I may be wrong about that though
@GenerationFilms
@GenerationFilms 3 жыл бұрын
Check out Part 1 here >>> kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYimcnR-f8SYndU
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 3 жыл бұрын
Wow
@sportsmag6148
@sportsmag6148 3 жыл бұрын
You guys should do a review/breakdown/episode on 2002's "Hero", it's great and is such a beautiful film.
@mattd2026
@mattd2026 3 жыл бұрын
😚 kiss me Allen
@GenerationFilms
@GenerationFilms 3 жыл бұрын
That’s like American bens favorite movie of all time
@mattd2026
@mattd2026 3 жыл бұрын
@@GenerationFilms 😚
@damanrando7608
@damanrando7608 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta say, I enjoyed the hell out of Bahubali... the whole "Capitol invasion with the tree catapult shield thing" you showed is pretty much what I classify as a "D&D Party move"
@CharliMorganMusic
@CharliMorganMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking about american racism: compared to literally the rest of the world, we are not that bad. For one, we don't commit genocide unless someone is getting paid, which is not a given in most parts of the world.
@lewisedwardson7776
@lewisedwardson7776 3 жыл бұрын
@@RinoGato There are actual genocides being carried out around the world. I don't think the planet's even gone 20 years without one. If you think a bit of social discrimination in america is worse than hundreds of thousands of people being raped, killed, and imprisoned, your priorities are mixed up.
@DJRonnieG
@DJRonnieG 3 жыл бұрын
That Michelle Yeoh stunt is hilarious.
@joelwalker4739
@joelwalker4739 3 жыл бұрын
Great video dude, i specifically like how you used examples from the global film scene rather than just american and european films.
@koreancowboy42
@koreancowboy42 3 жыл бұрын
Red Cliff eight docked gates was pretty impressive it's even more better in watching Three kingdoms 2010 cuz they had more extras .
@movietroll2303
@movietroll2303 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, one of the few people I have seen who seems to understand that horses will not run into spikes. They really won't.
@tondarubes
@tondarubes 3 жыл бұрын
My most favourite will allways be the dwarves of Iron hills shield/spear wall from Hobbit: Battle of five armies
@benwilson1088
@benwilson1088 3 жыл бұрын
The Indian shield wall was in a ridicules wedge, which is an actual formation. There is usually more than one head and it is mobile, but it is good for pushing into mass infantry that isn't formation fighting.
@davevd9944
@davevd9944 3 жыл бұрын
I mean it makes sense if you're fighting barbarians that know nothing of fighting but CHARGEEE.
@nathanielmcneal5835
@nathanielmcneal5835 3 жыл бұрын
You really dont know what tf your talking about. That's why blinders are put on horses of war is so they can be forced into battle lines like that.
@nachtschattenwolfW40k
@nachtschattenwolfW40k 3 жыл бұрын
I think these shield Wall from Harry Potter 7.2 is also crazy - Have you seen that Werwolf explode? XD
@indosuprem2296
@indosuprem2296 3 жыл бұрын
6:50 that a condescending way to say it
@WildWhiteNorth
@WildWhiteNorth 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Awesome content, thank you!
@alexanderbruwer9363
@alexanderbruwer9363 3 жыл бұрын
06:47 even for countries like mine which aren't homogeneous, there's still a lot of problems and yeah, most places are way behind on race relations
@porcupineparty7056
@porcupineparty7056 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the US was the most racist??
@alexanderbruwer9363
@alexanderbruwer9363 3 жыл бұрын
@@porcupineparty7056 nope
@porcupineparty7056
@porcupineparty7056 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderbruwer9363 I heard a lot of people said it was, guess it’s not.
@unknow11712
@unknow11712 3 жыл бұрын
@@porcupineparty7056 the US is the one that scream it evrywhere . but there are countryes that are way more racist . onorable mentions to sud africa , china .
@porcupineparty7056
@porcupineparty7056 3 жыл бұрын
@@unknow11712 I agree I’ve seen a lot of people who say the US is the most racist so they can get their agenda across especially the politicians.
@christopherg2347
@christopherg2347 3 жыл бұрын
4:12 To be fair, Chackie Chan *insists* on doing all stunts himself. He is quite the madman in that regard.
@GenerationFilms
@GenerationFilms 3 жыл бұрын
He led by example but that was also the culture in Hong Kong cinema at the time.
@nikrusty
@nikrusty 3 жыл бұрын
You ought to put the list of movies in the desc
@jeffrey2051
@jeffrey2051 3 жыл бұрын
Love your content, always enjoyable.
@matheusnguyen5924
@matheusnguyen5924 3 жыл бұрын
bruh kinda late but that homemade bazooka was insane XD
@dabois9799
@dabois9799 3 жыл бұрын
super good video!
@sketchtherapy1218
@sketchtherapy1218 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video you rock.
@willyreeves319
@willyreeves319 3 жыл бұрын
always try the 'dont try this at home' stuff somewhere else like a gravel pit
@geraldthompson4633
@geraldthompson4633 3 жыл бұрын
Except stuff. Loved the Indian flic with interlocking wall
@drunkredninja
@drunkredninja 3 жыл бұрын
finally bahubali gets recognition
@jeffnavarro2563
@jeffnavarro2563 2 жыл бұрын
Shield walls in the Dune universe....a man can dream.
@Assassinss77
@Assassinss77 3 жыл бұрын
What was the 1th 2nd 3rd movie's name?
@diegourbina4911
@diegourbina4911 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not an expert by any means, but I've seen videos on people that studied texts and written records. Appearently War horses will run into a wall of pikes if commanded to do so. Sort of makes sense since that is what they're trained to do.
@coldfire-blitz3122
@coldfire-blitz3122 3 жыл бұрын
We need to make this a weekly or bi-weekly series
@vijaymoudgalya9915
@vijaymoudgalya9915 3 жыл бұрын
That sheild wall in that Chinese film is called a Chakravyuha.And it is an ancient Indian design.
@saubhagyashine599
@saubhagyashine599 3 жыл бұрын
The wall paper of desktop is from bhaubhali in an indian movies.
@max2008abhi
@max2008abhi 3 жыл бұрын
Red cliff isn't actually a sheild wall. It's a ba-gua formation. It's also known as a Chakravyuh formation in indian history.
@a101reasons3
@a101reasons3 3 жыл бұрын
He nailed Bahubali 😂😂😂.
@jessebraughler8594
@jessebraughler8594 3 жыл бұрын
We need some last kingdom shield walls
@Emanon...
@Emanon... 3 жыл бұрын
The Wakandans were clearly trained in the "Winterfell School of Shitty Tactics"
@aethertech
@aethertech 3 жыл бұрын
and also by Gungan advisors.
@jacobmulraine2593
@jacobmulraine2593 3 жыл бұрын
what film/show is that clip at the beginning from where dude runs at the shield wall, falls and smiles?
@ciaranallen4440
@ciaranallen4440 3 жыл бұрын
The legend of Hercules with Dwayne Johnson
@dillongage
@dillongage 3 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend everyone turns on subtitles. "The Marcus Monte kingdom." "The avengers and the rakatan empire need to hold off thanos" 😂 since when are the Rakata good guys?
@felidaebi6239
@felidaebi6239 3 жыл бұрын
Indians have a more dangerous version of 8 gate called chakravyuha. Its a maze which keep rotating. If you use normal entrance you will get trapped in it. Only way to broke into it and come out without getting trapped is to attack specific spots which will be protected by the strongest troops.
@xJ0LLYR0GERx
@xJ0LLYR0GERx 3 жыл бұрын
The 8-Gate formation is more of an idea than reality. There is no record of it being successfully executed or even attempted. It's also not a good strategy anyway.
@Maribro4
@Maribro4 3 жыл бұрын
Good shield walls look so simple yet so great when done properly
@batteredknight1
@batteredknight1 3 жыл бұрын
Red Cliff was pretty damn amazing.
@fitrianhidayat
@fitrianhidayat 3 жыл бұрын
Are you the guy from its always sunny in Philadelphia?
@rachelsmith4569
@rachelsmith4569 3 жыл бұрын
you forgot the shield wall in the gladator. they stoped chariots with a handful of men
@XHellPriest
@XHellPriest 3 жыл бұрын
In the movie Brave heart. The English Calvary didn't have enough time to react.
@jaredhiggs9316
@jaredhiggs9316 3 жыл бұрын
Hey you haven't done the movie notice 300 yet with their shield wall
@Arvaniz
@Arvaniz 3 жыл бұрын
More than a shield wall, 300 had a shield rotating door... "From thigh to shoulder, you must protect the man beside you. Never break formation..." (2 minutes later) Every Spartan fighting alone, running like crazy all over the battlefield... :-P
@hotlinetech151
@hotlinetech151 3 жыл бұрын
That Dwarven shield wall in the Battle of Five Armies was a great one too, the whole sequence with the elves really sold it.
@kennethbedwell5188
@kennethbedwell5188 3 жыл бұрын
6:45- Thank you for mentioning this. I have told people this for years and I get shouted down and told how racist that view is. But having lived on other continents (and I don’t mean Europe or Asia), people in the US are really sheltered in how racist other countries truly are..
@davevd9944
@davevd9944 3 жыл бұрын
Case and point Korea and Japan they love white people (especially Japan) but everything else yeaaa :D they hate your guts.
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