5 Crusader Armies, 8000 Soldiers, Knocking Down Rome

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[@erensametkaratas6593]

What I learned today is that fear is worse than fighting.

[@LichlordKazam]

Brought to you by your friendly overlord government

[@erensametkaratas6593]

@@NataliaYaremchuk0816 "...and, the only thing they fear... is you"

[@hyperion3145]

​@@erensametkaratas6593 *Doom music starts playing*

[@B31NG]

@@erensametkaratas6593theres one they fear, in their tongue, ledeng, legendoftotalwar

[@TheDownrankTrain]

In terms of planning and overall competence that was a pretty historically accurate crusade

[@jorndebello7317]

😂

[@amachiftis]

Lol

[@igoralekseyev3347]

The different realms refusing to coordinate with each other is very immersive, 10/10

[@DariusOfPersia]

What do you mean? It's completely inaccurate! Venice actually arrived at the Crusade target instead of sacking Constantinople and calling it a day. Totally ruined my immersion!

[@DarkAnd1000]

They wouldve sacked and burnt down rome worse than the moors.@@DariusOfPersia

[@tezzy5584]

Panning around at 20:00 or so, armies on the horizon, siege equipment in the distance, fighting in the streets. Old Total War did sieges so much better than what we have now.

[@h4xorzist]

Yeah TWWH walls might look pretty but the lack of actually being walls with the enemies just tele up from behind (never heard of layers of defence?) as well as the insanely blocky and ugly layout. Unfortunately, it seems Medieval ai is barely worse that what we got now lol.

[@GeneralKenobi669]

@@h4xorzist The more complicated they make things the harder it is for the AI to handle it.

[@cccpredarmy]

​​@@h4xorzistI see the "reason" why CA changed the sieges. Back in the days we were playing a 1 v 2 siege-series with the defender having about 1/3 less money than EACH of the attacker and sitting in the lowest stone wall castle. No matter the tactics used by the attacker the one defending ALWAYS won by far. E.g. one of us even tried "swiss cheese tactic" where he just obliterated the walls, breaching every single hole and destroying every single tower before the assault. Despite all that the defender still won, using choke points and falling back to the town center to fight until death... Sieges in earlier TW games are very imba for the defender hence why I think CA made sieges a somewhat "different" terrain battle to give the attacker a slight chance. All this flag capturing and open terrain inside the walls or the walls themselves being almost like open terrain is just them trying to solve the imbalance... CA is just to lazy to come up with better ideas...

[@h4xorzist]

@@cccpredarmy Tournaments completely aside, walled cities were granting the defenders an about 10:1 advantage (if properly built). So, for the historical game this is very reasonable. But in Warhammer it's so bad the walls are downright worse to man then to do anything else making me question why they built them and don't get me started on the downright retarded towers, literally built in a way to teach cheese to every single person playing the game. TWWH sieges get a 1/10 in every category from all angles except fancy looks.

[@itshunni8346]

@@cccpredarmy It really came down to how you use your units in siege battles and what units those are. Never underestimate the usefulness of heavy cavalry and spear units during a siege battle. in medieval it was always about the lack of very damaging skirmishers that the other games had.

[@kd3045]

Multiple crusader armies besieging a single city and poring through the breaches like a floodwater. The visual of Legend trying to get his generals bodyguard back into the city after attacking the ballista unit with the HRE cavalry hot on his tail. His melee infantry being completely ground down and wiped out while holding chokepoints leading to the town square. This battle really nailed the aesthetic of Medieval II and is a testament to the games staying power that it could happen nearly 17 years after the games release. PS: Bonus points for the Papal States controlling Florence and having an army to contribute to the crusade but no doing so. I doubt that will stop the Pope from admonishing the crusaders from failing to take Rome and salting their wounds.

[@OhNotThat]

No doubt knowing the MTW2 Pope, all these kingdoms will be swiftly excommunicated by his holiness for their failure to recapture the Rome HE LOST by himself.

[@kd3045]

@@OhNotThat Scumbag Pope

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@OhNotThat And some say Medieval 2 isn’t historically accurate! 😂

[@michaelhawkins7389]

@@warlordofbritannia it isn't well not fully at least ..... the castles have been designed to look more like the Renaissance period with parts of medieval thrown in... also some of the place names in the game are modern names and not given their names when they were in the medieval period, like Spain for exampl. despite all this , The game is one of CA best total war games , along with Rome

[@magistermilitum1206]

This game came out in 2006 😂

[@tzardnickolasthelitromanov]

I like how the general was like 1 dread before the battle to almost having max dread in like one singular battle. (Also Azedine was called "Of Africa" before not "The Merciless", that's how much dread you got)

[@johnrex7108]

The man who held Rome from the Romans.

[@SereglothIV]

I gotta say, the minimap at the beginning of the battle looks pretty darn intimidating

[@taipenn2358]

It's amazing how since Rome 2 CA has advertised you can have giant battles which rarely happened and here's Medieval 2 just casually strolling up like this.

[@srdjan455]

You speak like battles like this is the norm in Medieval 2.

[@chris-ke2dn]

​@@srdjan455if you play till after turn 50 you can counter these a lot

[@IceniTotalWar]

common enough for me 4v1 3v2 3v3 , of course depending on how you play you can avoid some of these . @@chris-ke2dn

[@alexanderlow919]

Barely see anything happen tho

[@simenandersen3262]

But even if battles like these can happen in Rome 2, you won't be able to repell an army this big. Because that warscape engine doesn't reward circumstance as much as Medieval 2 does. Of course you could do it if you had elephants and chariots. But a pure infantry and missile based army in Rome 2 wouldn't be able to do shit.

[@Sephr95]

I dunno what's more impressive, winning the siege or those 4 infantry that survived the meat grinder.

[@Tr33ba1t]

"survived"

[@Jumka]

they got hella PTSD after that, they are never setting foot on a battlefield ever again lol

[@DeeJy33]

@@Jumka the crossbowmen have ptsd, the 4 infantry had paradise in slaughter

[@ismu34]

@@Jumka That one guy has 6 xp now lol

[@ArturoLopez-ly2pn]

That's gotta be one hell of a survivor's guilt

[@neox464]

Emperor Heinricus of Holy roman empire: Men deployed 1900, men lost 1520, enemies killed 79. Great job commanding buddy, might want to think about changing proffesion tho.

[@jonyberdiri8335]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@animewarrior3]

Medieval 2 siege battles are a thing of beauty. Its truly a costly thing to take a city. Often needing double the strength in online matches.

[@Alatriste90]

Please keep doing historial Total War, it honestly great to see after so many WH content.

[@IceniTotalWar]

Total War Warhammer has literally been the fallback game for nearly every big KZbinr in the last 7.5 years, once the early access they get for new games is past they stop promoting them and go back to Warhammer.

[@a.t.r.societymember1685]

I don’t think I’ve ever heard Legend say, “I wasn’t expecting the AI to do that” in a positive sense until just the last couple weeks of Medieval 2 content. That’s a pretty strong commentary on the drop in TW AI quality since 2006. Not that it was even particularly good then, but still…

[@MrJeanlebonjambon]

Come on, the AI is not very good in the new titles, but it's much, MUCH better than in the older titles. CA didn't upgrade it much (or rather, it has difficulties learning the new system), but I'll take a Warhammer Total War 3 over a Rome 1/Medieval 2 AI any day 😅

[@TacoTomtheBomb]

@@MrJeanlebonjambon Maybe Warhammer 2 over Medieval 2 because of fantasy and graphics, I like them both as they satisfy different itches, and maybe WH3 someday if it keeps improving--in my opinion. Have a good one.

[@HenriqueRJchiki]

Attila was the last competent one

[@TheDirtysouthfan]

@MrJeanlebonjambon The AI was much worse in Medieval 2 than in modern Total Wars. If you sally out they’ll sit still while in range of your cannon/ballista towers and get slaughtered, they charge their king headfirst into bracing spearmen, and in general just send their whole army down one street allowing you to just pick them off with ranger units. It’s not as easy to exploit the modern AI.

[@kuchom]

DEI Rome 2 is brutal, same for shogun 2

[@Princeps2]

Haven’t watched your videos for a while now. But I’m totally back for more Rome and Medieval, this was awesome, I had a great laugh as well. Thanks.

[@IceniTotalWar]

It would be great if Legend covered some of the mods for Rome Remastered as there's a lot of old ported mods and many new excellent mods for it .

[@chickenmadness1732]

Hilarious how the french ran the furthest away out of all the routed armies lmao.

[@tibsky1396]

A game made by the English-speaking world. In reality, they are the ones who fought the most. The Units of Crusaders, Templars and even Hospitallers came mainly from France, since the First Crusade.

[@the_tactician9858]

@@tibsky1396 To be fair to this 'game made by the English-speaking world', the French are no slouches in Medieval 2. They definitely have the best heavy cavalry of the Catholic nations, and their position is risky, but very rewarding if you manage to keep the fronts you're fighting on to a minimum. And it is true that all of the Knights Hospitaller are set in the files as French-speaking. They might not quite be as versatile as the HRE and as heavily fortified as the English, but they are definitely a power to be reckoned with in Medieval 2, as well they should be: the French might be the European nation with the greatest track record when it comes to warfare, more so than the English or Germans. They just suffer from having lost their most crucial battles at moments when it mattered the most for them.

[@gabbagundam]

Wow, a disaster campaign without a cavalerie doomstack to bail him out? Now this is an actual challenge!

[@Meat312]

Finally a true ME2 disaster battle! Unbelievable 5 allied stacks vs 1.

[@patmcgroin6916]

Masterful! I love the Moors as a faction. Those Moorish crossbow militia guys actually have a pretty decent melee attack and defense rating too. The unit that got attacked on the wall held up pretty well I noticed.

[@hernanreipp5259]

We need to do a request to Legend that his next campaign has to be with the Moors. I love that faction.

[@IceniTotalWar]

1 of the most cost effective Moorish units along with Arab Cav .

[@hernanreipp5259]

@@IceniTotalWar WoW look who is here? Hi buddy.

[@IceniTotalWar]

Hi there 🖐🖐. Oh yeah i've been following Legend for a long time, learned a lot from his videos, saving the disaster campaign/battle is always a highlight .@@hernanreipp5259

[@elchjol2777]

The Denmark is my favorite faction. Love the look of some of their units. And well axe units, I like axe units.

[@tosso11]

Had no idea a battle like this was even possible in Med2, great content legend!

[@IceniTotalWar]

Hopefully that means you're fairly new to Med 2 ? it unfortunately happens to me quite regularly since 2006 🤣🤣

[@alexanderlow919]

FPS drop so hard man,so bad

[@omidtabrizi-e2z]

@@alexanderlow919it’s the walls breaking the new windows update for some reason makes games drop every time the wall crumbles pixelated Apollo has mentioned this before

[@Floris_VI]

This must be one of the best sydc's i have ever seen, WOW In fact, im going to watch it again right away that was just crazy

[@jamesashcroft8170]

What an amazing battle. That's the kind of stuff legends are made of. Those 4 remaining melee guys are absolute heroes. Promotions to General's Bodyguard all-round.

[@codyh9175]

I'm loving this resurgence in historical videos

[@IceniTotalWar]

I would say it's a nice nostalgia trip but i've never stopped playing Med 2 even though i really need a break.

[@VashTS7]

Legend this is so awesome that you are doing historical titles again! Im having so much fun watching these! Keep up the great work.

[@mattybob12310]

Lmao, that German Balista watching thousands of Allied troops stream into, and then slowly back out of Rome, whilst just sitting there having Lunch "Huh... Guess /that/ didn't go so well hey?"

[@guywiththesly3321]

like a cartoon lol

[@AROSP]

@LegendofTotalWar This is one of the best battles you've ever covered. Incredible video.

[@TheAnon03]

Reminds me of a game where I had to defend Antioch from the Mongols. I think that was 5 stacks. I was able to set up some spikes inside the city and I think that's what saved me. Still a battle of epic proportions on the town center though.

[@coreyreynolds8550]

Legend, I really tuned in for this one. It looked massive to my standard. Probably what you’re used to though. Thanks for the content!

[@seanherring8828]

First of all the French marching backwards joke was still hilarious, secondly I haven't played medieval 2 in years, think this battle has shown how impressive your game knowledge really is, even more so than most of your wh3 battles, keep up the good work Legend! 💪

[@tibsky1396]

And ironically, the Bulk of Crusaders, Templars and even Hospitalliers units were from Duchies and Counties in France since the First Crusade.

[@TheDenimdoug]

Loving the historical content!! You sound like you are enjoying it too and I am excited to see more!!

[@ahmetkarakuzu3082]

After ending the campaign several factions i had never experienced this one. That make me restart a new faction and take the rome in early period of campaign before other factions lose the power. I think this is the way to welcome a huge crusade as you had. Wow man i had fun to watch!

[@strigoi_guhlqueen8355]

This was really awsome. Enjoying the historical content.

[@aretesermon7759]

General start the battle with 2 bronze veterancy and end it with 3 gold. Fking chad

[@zenkai6360]

Great to see the Med2 content back and with battles like these *chef's kiss*

[@IceniTotalWar]

Makes a change from Warhammer.

[@jenskatze2449]

I didnt even notice it was a 48 minute Video, felt more like 15, i was this much engaged in this awesome battle.

That reminds me of one campaign as England, where NOBODY fled from my army, because I had so high chivalry and morale stats for my general. Even after he died. Whole army of mine got wiped out. This was during a crusade, when I invaded particularily strong enemy army. NO SINGLE UNIT FLED. This is how strong max Chivalry + Morale boost can be. Enemy got only 1 unit left at the end of the battle. EDIT : Unit stayed in battle even after the general died btw.

[@Xuerios]

These last infantry men were like ... "there were we, 3 against the thousand" xD

[@karnegionzzz]

That minimap was looking like a flight radar with all the enemy routing

[@SkygirlGamingChannel]

This reminds me to a battle I did in a citadel however in Medieval 2. It was also around 2k of my forces (england) vs 8k+ of 5 armys. The battle given it's a citadel with no time limiter enabled took around 2 hours. The moment the battle was about to be won slowly my game crashed. Not sure I managed the win again but i think i didn't my second try. I was so sad but I will never forget those epic battles of medieval 2. Truly the best Total war by miles in siege battles.

[@harryb7661]

Legend getting rock hard over a 23 year old general with that much dread was the funniest part of the video.

[@Jumka]

lmao

[@momoneymoproblemz]

The man likes what he likes lol

[@petresko1041]

"It's easy to be brave behind a castle wall" - Welsh Proverb Indeed it is, with LegendofTotalWar on the ramparts.

[@waynedavid2806]

Maybe one of your best SYDBs yet. A huge scale, epic battle with great tatics and reactions on your part and it still came down to the wire. Really fun to watch, well done Legend!

[@MojocatAMVs]

A Comet of Casandora would look real nice in there. Top video as always

[@angriboi]

When I read the title, the first thing going through my mind was "Wow, did the Pope really excommunicate himself?"

[@C222-x8o]

Really great battle. Potentially the best of all time. Good to see you having fun as well!

[@alexblaze7677]

I think that’s the first time you’re playing in window mode but props to you legend. That was awesome!

[@LegendofTotalWar]

I'm actually always playing medieval 2 in windowed mode but I forgot to switch my OBS settings from when I recorded the Rome Total War video. Rome 1 and Medieval 2 require different settings to record. Luckily the Medieval 2 video can run with Rome 1 settings but you'll notice the slight bottom was cut off. Not a big deal.

[@alexblaze7677]

@@LegendofTotalWar Oh I see, that’s why you were able to see on how many you captured while we couldn’t see that at all. I immediately noticed that there was something off but like you said no big deal. Thanks for letting me know!

[@johnnyd3387]

You are Legend great to see you back and at your best. We who are about to watch. Salute you.

[@generalrevelation8923]

Love that the crusaders refused to support eachother for the most part. "If we let those other assholes die we will be in a better position to control the city. You know... for Christ." The immersion was palpable.

[@ElBandito]

Age 23 and 8 Dread already. That's some Chinggis Khaan level of notoriety.

[@laszlototh9803]

I lost it when the french army retreated XD

[@TimboSlice69420]

This inspired me to start a Moors campaign in medieval 2 before I even finished watching the video

[@IceniTotalWar]

They're a fun faction, Arab Cav very useful and cheap from all the towns, militia/peasant crossbows early on are very cost effective garrison troops and Jav Cav very useful for fighting the Christian Cav, urban militia good late game heavy infantry from cities. Bit weak in spears and i don't remember them having pikes or halberds .

[@kosatk120]

Good content man. Here I subscribe as long as we will see some old total wars from again.

[@LordPratticus]

That was such a good watch! Always a pleasure to watch a master at work. I really hope to see more content like this ❤

[@siberarmi]

Is it me or Legend start to sound more "alive" ?; Edit: Now this is Total War!

[@petergombos8827]

This is one of your best disaster battles! I was chewing my nails until the end!

[@blekkat8768]

" In war, numbers alone do not confers anything, do not advance relying on sheer military power " - Sun Tzu

[@jamaneee]

That defence was Legendary. Really living up to the channel name

[@De_Wit]

No daddy Legend, it can't be done, the math doesn't fit. Legend: fuck you, heavy cavalary.

[@goosemontv]

Gotta love that medieval 2 path finding 😭

[@paulliu8502]

Pretty much unseen to have this many factions in one battle in medieval 2

[@carsonnesbit1178]

Nah, this is relatively typical for crusades in med 2.

[@Bonno95]

Is it? Most of the time the Christian factions are all at war with each other so don’t help each other out in crusades

[@carsonnesbit1178]

@@Bonno95 not in my experience, takes awhile for the Christian nations to truly get involved in war with one another because the pope tends to tell them “No.”

[@IceniTotalWar]

in my experience yes and same for jihads , unless you can confuse the AI with building forts on all the river crossings you'll get swarmed often. @@carsonnesbit1178

[@wlink639]

@@Bonno95 Yes but on higher difficulties and only against the player.

[@adamjohnson3239]

My greatest battle was defeating 4000 greek cities hoplites and armored hoplites when they besieged 800 of my hastati/velites/equites in Athens. On VH with those ridiculous bonuses AI gets.

[@hernanreipp5259]

Rome 1 Greek Cities are wonderful defenders, but terrible besiegers.

[@fabianustertius6460]

27:57 otoman jenisaries at vienna during the winged hussars charge

[@afr_gem]

ive never got myself to a point of fighting a battle has big as this holy crap that was tense to watch!

[@markmarkovich8555]

Truly hellish bloody battle at one of holiest cities 🔥

[@jonyberdiri8335]

Holly city?

[@Angryprobedroid]

Just seeing the minimap at the start gave me chills

[@IceniTotalWar]

Looked a little foreboding but our man Legend was on the job, so nothing to worry about .

[@GoldRider4265]

Duke of Death makes any battle feel epic, but it turns epics into true legends. Man I love M2

[@sethleoric2598]

The closest i've ever had to a battle like this was 3 full stack crusader armies (all venice) in the Crusades expansion and a 2 stack army for Americas. This is genuinely crazy. Bridge battles don't count, they are so damn easy that you can make a makeshift army made entirely out of mercenaries and probably militia and still win them.

[@justsomedude6386]

I always come back to this game whenever I'm bored with the new stuff from CA

[@StarRider253]

Gotta love that Jeff van Dyk

[@jaredkronk4614]

OMG the bodies in the town square at the end

[@trinebula]

I'm pretty sure my laptop would crash if I tried to play this battle. That or my brain would. Good job Legend!!

[@peterwright5311]

12 minutes in and the attackers haven't just sailed over the walls en masse like they were nothing...

[@yeet1891]

Imagine a 17 year old game sieging look better than total war these days

[@freemanpal]

Great game. Another playthrough is always tempting

[@ivanthegod49]

That polish army reverse marching all the way to warsaw lmao

[@anathar8830]

46:00 Damn, the French army got beat so bad they backed up all the way back to France😂

[@tibsky1396]

A game made by the English-speaking world. In reality, they are the ones who fought the most. The Units of Crusaders, Templars and even Hospitallers came mainly from France, since the First Crusade.

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

46:28 It was a WW2 joke (and still a lot could be said...). For WW1, think more "charging wearing red pants" then "they shall not pass at Verdun" and finally "light tanks go BRRRRRR !"

[@pyry1948]

Never had a battle this large in this game

[@IceniTotalWar]

Oh i get them far too often, all the way since 2006 ! i usually don't do so well 😮😮

[@thegameinspector6910]

…and thus the first “five guys”tavern was made in the city center!

[@Acetazy]

Great battle to watch - appreciate the content

[@month32]

Let us praise and annoing into knights and high nobles all those 4 giga chads that survived that hellish melee!

[@hex_1733]

I haven't seen such a huge battle in a looong time holy shit you did great

[@supertinnietank]

So... Why can't we have sieges like that in Warhammer?! The walls: Mattered The towers: Impactful The town square layout: Sane How/why would they get rid of that?

[@IceniTotalWar]

The real reason is - CA ! they're not what they used to be, they should have been more and we should have had even better TW games by now but they went another route.

[@IceniTotalWar]

It would be great if Legend covered some of the mods for Rome Remastered as there's a lot of old ported mods and many new excellent mods for it . Still i love it when he returns to Med 2 !

[@Lagmaster33]

One of your finest battles, Legend

[@michealrey1]

What a battle legend, one of your best imo

[@glaz3811]

"They're outnumbered 50 to 1 and the battles begun then legend of total war arrived" Winged hussars Sabatons

[@diazinth]

tbf, the winged hussars came a bit late this time around :D

[@ComfortingColourlessLight]

This scenario reminds of the Lion and the Demon from aoe2 of all things.

[@hernanreipp5259]

Me too. I hope one day somebody will do a Total War: Age of Empires Saga mod.

[@StilleR666]

I miss times where units in battle were running out and not coming constantly back

[@BradHann]

"let jump to war here" - KZbin subtitles.

[@sir_vix]

The medieval 2 soundtrack really holds up.

[@nerfrats6931]

If only you had cannon towers. Imagine how bad that would be for the crusaders.

[@malekiththeeternityking5433]

First time I'm cheering against Legend, not sure the good guys will do well

[@stormy6029]

Why are you cheering against him?

[@daanvanrijn4117]

Lol same here. Deus vult!

[@malekiththeeternityking5433]

@@stormy6029 Cause Crusaders>Kebabs

[@stormy6029]

@@malekiththeeternityking5433 oh just casual racism. Not surprised lol

[@BlacK40k]

​@@stormy6029Moors gotta go

[@Falkenace5]

Gotta love the ost of this epic battle too

[@forestranger4325]

Thing that i hate about gaming industry is even when medieval 3, with better controls and grafics (i fucking hope), comes out, i will need to wait another 2-3 yrs for game to be playable and enjoyable.

[@LaTtwahag99]

Bro truly is the Legend Of Total War

[@GilgameshofUruk]

Crusader armies knocking down Rome what an irony lol

[@legatuslegionarii2284]

Well what can I say… Legend is simply… legend!

[@hassarfn3557]

"Not necessaryly the worst thing ever" Dude!! 😨

[@callumburns4809]

That was mega!!! nice work bro!!!

[@kitsunegurei]

It's hilarious that the tower mechanic from a 2006 game works better than what CA implemented for Warhammer III

[@snoopsauce6294]

That was an awesome battle to watch, really looked like it would come down to the wire therr for a second.