5 Cylinder 944 Build - Part 1 (Porsche 944 07K Swap)

[@gnrrpreacher]

24hrs of Le Mans on one screen and an 07k update on another. Heaven.

[@gnrrpreacher]

Did you end up with a forged crank?

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Oh man, I need to turn the 24 on!

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

No, but I’m just doing a rowdy NA build this winter

[@DWraysGarage]

You sir, are a goddam artist. Such a great education for an amateur like me! Looking forward to seeing you reap the fruits of your labors in August!

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Thanks buddy, much appreciated! Got a lot of work to do and not a whole lot of time, but I am determined... Not sure we have ever finished a project on this channel? Hahahahahha

[@DWraysGarage]

@@BoostBrothersGarage you've finished more engines lifetimes that car projects but I'm confident this build will help close that gap.

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Hahahaha, very true!

[@markovvoz8849]

Ahhh i was hoping for video to never end, awesome build and looks like a very simple process to do when I start this myself, thanks

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Thanks! It’s definitely been easy so far. The real test will be all the plumbing etc

[@d993s]

@@BoostBrothersGarage stop misleading people; it’s starts off cheap (engine) then it requires a ton of work and mods especially swapping it into a 944

[@MaxWobbles]

Those are triple square sockets. If it were me I'd replace that manifold gasket with an OEM Volkswagen gasket, they're not expensive. I can help you out with any OEM VW parts you might need.

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Thanks dude!

[@MrAudi220]

This a build to my hart, love old 944's and love the o7k 5pot👍✌️👉

[@rfl35]

Wow can’t wait for that first crank !!

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Same here!!! Especially considering my planned exhaust setup!

[@wethenorth4378]

Just to let you know I got your notification but had to wait till had some proper time to enjoy your content. now on with the show!

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Thanks for hitting the notification bell! Helps us a lot

[@psavel274]

Never heard them called 'cheese head' sockets. I refer to them a 'triple squares,' or '12 points.' I just found your channel and I dig it. I'm a vw/audi and BMW tech. In my time at the few Volkswagen Stealerships, I did my fair share of turning wrenches on these. Definitely more reliable than the TSI engine. Should be quite the cool swap for the 944. The 5cyl sounds awesome alone. You paid under $300 shipped?!?!? You got a hell of a deal.

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

I’ve gotten a few of them for that price. Just got one from a local yard with 60k miles for $200!

[@psavel274]

@@BoostBrothersGarage Great deal, considering at that low of mileage you can essentially just bolt it in and go, after you mod it to your preferences of course. At that price who gives a shit if you blow it up LOL!!! Go for the "MOON TUNE!!!" HAHAHA😁🤣👍

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Exactly! We will be doing an 07K engine dyno series soon where we can really send it!

[@joejohnson2402]

Come on with it. looks good

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Thanks!

[@tomboconklin]

I've been watching this on Rennlist as well as your videos, and it's all awesome. The videos are really helpful in understanding all of the details that you're putting into it. I would love to build a 924S Carrera GTS with a an 07K some year. Keep it up!

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Thanks Tom! I am so tempted to put an 07K in my 924 GTP replica but I already have the 2.85 stroker and I just can’t make myself pull the trigger!

[@tomboconklin]

@@BoostBrothersGarage Haha, I totally understand. You should do an overview/build video of that car too.

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

I have a full series going on it, it’s just called the widebody 944!

[@tomboconklin]

Boost Brothers Garage Ahhhh! It’s all making sense now. Thanks for the content! It’s really nice and rare to have such quality 944 content on KZbin.

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Appreciate the kind words!

[@anthonykupchunos4282]

Just what I needed to watch

[@frankleonard6065]

Sweet, Porsche

[@jayswin2]

Holy shit....how have I only just found this channel? Fucking love it👍 Big fan here in the UK

[@AndyTheXTech]

Nice Dude 👍

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Gracias!

[@picklepee2771]

This would be ideal but I don't have a garage and live in an apartment...

[@HalfAGarage]

10:08 HEY! thats my line ahaha

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Hahahaha

[@kylehattan]

Take the secondary air injection stuff and burn it!

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Burn it with fire!!!

[@kululv]

you explained what the oil bloc is but you really didn't say, why you actually replace the factory part? as for the throw out bearing, how is it held in place now? is there a pipe on which it sits?

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

The new oil block is now part of the engine mount. The factory part with the integral oil cooler was too large. The slave cylinder / throw out bearing is bolted to the inside of the bellhousing

[@timsa626]

Subbed for the cool and unique swap! Love the 07K! Thing is bullet proof lmao I'm looking for a donor MK2 for one I have from my dad's old 2010 Beetle (was totalled in an accident) I can't wait to see your 944 going and making rad 5 cylinder sounds

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Thanks man, much appreciated! People sleep on the 07K for sure, a mk2 would be awesome!

[@d993s]

But it’s not bulletproof, it requires a TON of upgrades. Don’t be misled by vendors

[@rwsmotors]

Is it possible to take an Audi RSTT DAZA engine with a 07k3 blockhead and change it to a 07k block head will it fit???

[@rype36]

where could i buy the oil filter housing adapter ...valve cover and power steering adapter ?????

[@user-ue2oj8lp6v]

Can you do this to a 2012 Jetta ? Like will all the parts fit the same

[@trevorthefilthyrat3742]

I sill think you should have got a Audi 20 valve I-5

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

The AAN is a cool engine, but this is also a 20 valve I5 but with newer technology and a much better flowing head.

[@trevorthefilthyrat3742]

@@BoostBrothersGarage I always forget that those engines are hard to come by now 'n days.

[@trevorthefilthyrat3742]

@@BoostBrothersGarage True. Hope your car woops some ass.

[@porscheG56]

Commented on another video but when should we expect the kit to hit the market??

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

September / October for the full kit, although a lot of the parts are available now!

[@justinjerome6950]

Are you going to put r8 coil packs?

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

No, actually using coils off a 1.8T (if I remember correctly). They were the only ones low profile enough to fit under the stock hood without modifications

[@mrrpm246246]

Sooooo my question is can the Lamborghini header be turned the other way in case i wanted to run the 07k in a transverse set up and wanted to put the turbo over the gearbox

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Not this header, but you could try the RH header to see if it would work!

[@kevingilpin6707]

Do you guys not make the swap kit anymore?

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

We do! I’m actually packing up a bunch right now. We will be doing another production run this fall. If you go to our website there is an email address where you can join the waiting list if you’d like.

[@kevingilpin6707]

Thanks, just checking because i looked at the website and it said out of stock!

[@kevingilpin6707]

Hey are you guys located in Ohio? Im about 45 minutes from Dayton and an hour and a half from Cincinnati, just curious if there was a way i could come check out the shop and the conversion kit in person and if i buy one i could just get it then! Thanks

[@elitesilent2378]

I got a couple questions if possible 🙏🙏

[@P1983sche]

I need one of those shirts. You guys sell em?

[@cletpenney1530]

Been wanting to swap my 82' with an Audi AAN or ADU for a while, but this seems interesting !! its got me wanting to try it ! what did you guys do for engine harnesses and integration for the 944 ?

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

We partnered with Performance Electronics to develop a swap harness and ECU package. It integrates with the factory gauges on the late model 944’s but we haven’t tried it on an early car yet. Would be easy enough to modify if nothing else.

[@sentree9857]

I’m not familiar with these engines are they reliable?

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Reliable to 400 whp in stock trim with a turbo. Add forged pistons and rods and the sky is the limit.

[@d993s]

@@BoostBrothersGarage lol you forgot to mention a LOT of other costly requirements for 400whp: TTRS or custom flywheel/clutch, head bolts, standalone management, custom exhaust manifold/turbo, injectors, tuning, many hours of custom fabrication, etc which are $5000-$7000 minimum. But you guys encourage unsuspecting “builders” so good luck in convincing idiots that this is a good choice. Reminds me of a guy turbocharging and then fully building a Camry 4cylinder because he got it for free from his parents years ago. Yeah he eventually got 450whp, only cost him about $14,000 and 6 months on a $3000 car….which in the end was worth about $4000. Great plan huh?

[@a914freak]

What ya got planned for that 914 with the GT flares?

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Current plans are NA 07K swap with a Boxster or 01E transaxle. A fun but capable street & track car.

[@nealmaha7889]

Does the mounts work with factory Porsche bellhousing?

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

No, we developed a bellhousing for the swap. It does use the factory torque tube and transaxle though

[@nealmaha7889]

@@BoostBrothersGarage Ok how much is that? How much for mounts and bellhousing only

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

The 944 requires the oil block for the mounts to work, as well as the valve cover in order to fit under the factory hood. The oil pan has to be extensively modified as well, which we are selling already done. I’m happy to price just the mounts and bellhousing for you but unfortunately it won’t do you any good without the other stuff unless you are planning to fabricate all of it.

[@nealmaha7889]

@@BoostBrothersGarage yes please. Want to try to do as much as possible myself. Mounts and bellhousing please. And oil adapter. Ty

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

@@nealmaha7889 Bellhousing w/ pilot adapter as well as mounts with oil block would be $1,420. The oil pan took an obscene amount of R&D as well as machining and modification. If you decide you need one of those, they are 975 with you supplying your upper pan for us to modify.

[@stanviers8792]

Whats the rev range of this unit, how tight is it ,

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Factory they can rev to 7200. Built they can handle 9500.

[@stanviers8792]

@@BoostBrothersGarage the reason i asked was my friend had a 07.... i think, jetta with a 5 cyl, although peppy 5500 was the rev limiter,

[@d993s]

@@BoostBrothersGarage you forgot to mention how much a “built 07K” cost ($5000+) compared to a “built AAN or 3B” ($1300) and guess which car will have a higher value??? Such vendors of upgrades you guys are, ffs

[@wethenorth4378]

I know you want to get that thing in there and running but while it’s out don’t you want to throw some high compression pistons in there? Intergrated engineering makes a piston and baring kit for that engine. I know 944 fest

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Don’t you worry, that’s coming! Version 2 is going to be a sweet NA build

[@wethenorth4378]

Boost Brothers Garage Nice

[@christopherkinsman1543]

Does anyone know off-hand if these swaps will pass smog in CA if we want a daily driver?

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

From the conversations I’ve had, it would be extremely difficult. I don’t know CA regulations, but mainly because it has an additional cylinder, and almost certainly needs to run an aftermarke an aftermarket ECU.

[@christopherkinsman1543]

I keep hoping for them to "wake up" to the idea that updating an engine to a more fuel efficient - more modern designed engine is actually better. My take on the laws is - they'd rather have us scrap the car altogether - for the pseudo "better for the environment" electric hybrid. Anyway, thanks for the very clear, well put-together videos. They are a huge asset to all of us weekend wrench warriors. (I work in film - i know what videos work and what doesn't!) Maybe I'll just ship the car to my nephew in Texas and make it an Uncle/Nephew project. Thanks again! @@BoostBrothersGarage

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Thanks Christopher, appreciate that! I’ve never understood how knowledgeable the inspection people are. For instance a giant shiny turbo and intercooler is one thing, but will a stock looking engine that passes the sniff test get denied too? Love the Cali weather and sights but man their laws suck for enthusiasts

[@carwerks101]

What are you using for a flange on the back of the head? Just the stock one?

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

For the coolant line? We are going to make a new one, just haven’t got that far yet.

[@carwerks101]

@@BoostBrothersGarage sorry yeah, I'm going to have to make one too, I'm running no heater so I'm just getting ideas

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Gotcha... We are just going to use a 90 and a machined flange to adapt to the stock setup. Should be able to be used in a lot of different applications

[@carwerks101]

@@BoostBrothersGarage cool, look toward to seeing it, I was thinking of a 90 with an an welded on, my engine is going back in soon for mock up

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

I’m staying away from AN on this one because im cheap haha

[@MinecraftGamer427]

I can’t seem to find that iAbed oil filter housing? Got a link to it?

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

As far as more info or to purchase?

[@MinecraftGamer427]

Boost Brothers Garage purchase

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

We don’t have any on the shelf right now, so I would reach out directly to iAbed if you need it immediately. Contact info for him is at the bottom of his website: www.iabedindustries.com

[@09walon]

Hey! Any idea how much this build costs in total? Really really keen to give this a go on my 2.5 944

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

09walon it depends on a number of things really. It could be done as cheap as $7k or cost $20k depending on what you do with the engine. My complete turbo build is on track to be less than $10k, and capable of 400whp reliably

[@nautika1]

Audi engine v5 turbo

[@Veyron640]

DUDE...PUT your camera.. on the motor.. nobody wants to see your face. for 2/3's of the video for crying out loud.. you need attention??

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Not in the slightest

[@d993s]

You guys are such exploitive vendors with this choice of 07K. Own up: it starts as a cheap engine and ends up costing a ton of money to build, especially turbocharging it and swapping it into a 944. Stop misleading and encouraging unsuspecting “builders” into money pits

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Engine swaps cost money, that’s just how it is. The LS swaps are the exact same way. We post spreadsheets with every item needed and pricing to be completely transparent. I’m not sure why you felt the need to post this same message on multiple videos when you clearly haven’t done your research or understand what it takes to swap an engine into a 944..

[@d993s]

@@BoostBrothersGarage I haven’t done my research? Lol, I’ve done swaps in 944s when you were probably in diapers (early 90s) and they were family correct (Audi 2.2T and VW VR6, you know, choices that make some sense?) Admit it, you mislead newbs into spending a ton of money by starting off with a cheap engine (07K) which then requires a TON of money to get any real power, because you’re vendors and connect with other “convenient options” vendors. Your main objectives are profit, not results

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

I’m sorry that you’ve had the horrible experiences that lead you to believe that’s how everyone operates but that’s certainly not the case. I don’t even pay myself. We have to do these production runs as group buys in order to keep the costs down so that people can afford them. You couldn’t be any more off base. You likely won’t believe me but feel free to reach out to our customers to get their opinions.

[@d993s]

@@BoostBrothersGarage lol, I’m sure most of your customers are unsuspecting 18-20yo kids with “dreams”, so I’m not putting any value on that. Good luck with your business though, there sure are a lot of potential customers in this market. Keep feeding potential and encouraging them.

[@BoostBrothersGarage]

Very few are 18-20, most are 30’s and 40’s. I specifically steer people away who are looking for the low cost 400hp route and have zero intentions of tracking the car. That’s not what this swap is for. Again, you are entitled to your opinion but if you look up the 07K swap development thread on Rennlist or have an opportunity to talk to our customers you won’t feel the same way. Good luck with your build, whatever it may be.