5 Historical Errors in Kingdom of Heaven

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J Stephen reviews the popular drama Kingdom of Heaven from an historical perspective.

[@gimzod76]

I remember seeing this with my dad who's a history teacher specialising in the crusades. His face just went blank a quarter the way through the film and when it was over he just shook his head. All the clarification i needed to know how wrong it was.

[@crimsonwolf866]

Bruh , dontchu feel bad for your dad not feeling the wonder in the romance movies make . Movies are romanticized for the audience .

[@justinallen2408]

@@crimsonwolf866 they don't need to romanticize a movie to make it any good and I'd say it's been done so much that it doesn't even provide the same impact and just feels watered down. Also you can still romanticize what actually happened instead of idealizing it

[@kensebego199]

@@stevenpaddybwoy tf are you talking about lmao the script was written by a British director, stop chaffing the jews into everything.

[@jimmybobby4824]

Left wing Atheist

[@rickbarry1969]

@@crimsonwolf866 KoH was historical FICTION and not a history.

[@lordshaodeus1021]

Just five?

[@jamesleliveld9957]

@Jon Willig it’s just a movie dawg don’t get alll aspy about it

[@Juubelimies]

@@jamesleliveld9957No one is being aspy about anything. The movie is seriously inaccurate and even if it is just a movie, it was supposed to be at least loosely based on historical events while that just isn't the case.

[@BrianSWG]

@@Juubelimies who on earth watches movies purly on there historical accuracy?🤔 There is no movie on earth or ever will be that cant be disected because of there inaccuracies, get over yourself.

[@der110]

@@BrianSWG Waterloo, Downfall ?

[@jasonroach6209]

Because people don't read anymore, movies like this are how they 'inform' themselves of historical events

[@cordoba7]

Great video, #6 should be the completely incorrect setting. Jerusalem is not in a flat desert, it's on a hill/ mountain and is shaped entirely differently from the fictional city in the movie.

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

Yeah, you're absolutely right. The entire depiction of Jerusalem was incorrect.

[@Thor-Orion]

The only thing I liked was the cinematography, the landscape shots are excellent, even though a lot of the subject matter was portrayed inaccurately. That’s one of the least egregious inaccuracies this movie presents as reality.

[@johannfarmann8649]

Kingdom of heaven is the rough equivalent of a movie about the intricacies of Boxing, as written, produced, and directed by a pacifist who has never seen or been in a fight.

[@lampad4549]

Kinda like that shitty anime vinland saga and pretty most historical movies.

[@adastra5214]

Exactly, so revolting.

[@ryansta]

Wow, what a rare thing nowadays, someone speaking actual sense and a realistic appraisal. Haven't enjoyed listening to material like this, as much for such a long time on You Tube thank you.

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@mkosmala1309]

We played a fun game in my Crusades class. We put a summary of the actual history next to a summary of the plot, and gave any historical inaccuracies in the plot the old black sharpie treatment. By the end, less than one full sentence was not blacked out.

[@kles44]

Modernity makes me nautious. To have scripts where templars are actually derided as extremists by their contemporaries is the height of absurdity.

[@etherealcatholic5711]

kayanihati Older i get the more I've realized it's never going to get better in my lifetime.

[@ariannapac6535]

@@stevenpaddybwoy amen to that

[@stevenpaddybwoy]

Johnny are you really that dumb to not see that non Europeans writing movies about us who hold a ancient grudge would depict us in a poor light? If Muslims made a film about Jews what do you think it would be like? You have a small brain

[@Ciara1594]

The idea of the Knights Templar being obscene, lecherous and thieves came from the French. A French king hearing that the Knights were richer beyond the dreams of avarice, and since he was up to his eyeballs in debt, then decided that he'll accuse the Knights of atrocious crimes, get rid of them and claim their wealth. The Knights Templar were horribly tortured and killed. This went on for a long time until the Pope intervened and put a stop to it. It was around then that the Knights became a regular religious order like the Franciscans instead of a fighting one. They're still around in fact. But people today still believe the evil stories that were told about them. 🙁

[@OGJessie]

@@Ciara1594 You do know this isn't the place for A FRENCH KING specifics please otherwise bogus.

[@TheAmericanCrusader]

Biggest error is the relationship between Sybilla and Balian. Balian served Sybilla and most likely met her but they never had carnal knowledge of each other.

[@patrickjones8255]

He (or his father, I can't remember) did try to get her married into the family. Sybilla also had a sister. And didn't reject her husband.

[@aryantiwari9551]

Carnal knowledge, that's a fashionable way of saying sweaty sex lmao

[@TheAmericanCrusader]

@@aryantiwari9551 especially since they didnt have air conditioning

[@55vma]

My histories tell me that Balian was married to Sybilla 's step mother. And he was her and her son 's protector.

[@Isildun9]

@@patrickjones8255 I think his brother had a relationship with Isabella, Sybilla's half sister.

[@zekun4741]

In the scene when Balian and the Hospitaller are talking about Balian losing his religion and the Hospitaller says he doesn't like religion because it creates fanaticism and war, there's no way a conversation like that could go down the way it did back in the time the movie is based. It would be seen as blasphemy

[@mistersharpe4375]

Not to mention they would have lacked the historical context to view religion in such a way. These guys are only two crusades deep but they talk like there's already been thousands of years of holy wars.

[@captaintexican5993]

Not saying it's accurate. But to play Devil's Advocate, it's not impossible. If it is well into the 2nd Crusade, the Hospitaler would have seen enough death and war that he could have had a jaded view of religion without losing his faith in God.

[@carlose4314]

The first four zeroes of your name are unnecessary.

[@igodreamer7096]

Indeed

[@bmo5082]

You may be right, but the director should be allowed a little artistic license with these types of scenes. Because the common mans thoughts were not often recorded back then, just like they arent recorded today, one can only imagine what they might have felt about Holy War, or the Divine Right of Kings. What I do like about the movie is the virtue which Bailan bestows when asked to elimate Guy De Lusignan (spelling). So while his thoughts might wander/wonder about the true divine nature of God, his actions show his devotion to righteousness - and therefore shows his love of God ( John 14:21) I might also add that the Hospitaller knight may not be an earthly being.

[@aliensoup2420]

One of the things I find so silly about this movie is how quickly the massive armies moved. Baldwin orders the army to assemble and meet Saladin. Balian is ordered to go out and protect the villagers around Kerak, he rides out, meets the enemy, then Baldwin appears with an army of hundreds of thousands - all in what appears to be a single day. Its all very exciting and impressive looking for the sake of the drama, but in reality would probably take weeks to transpire.

[@davidd4696]

You just described Reality & a film..

[@jupiterrising887]

I'm shocked you narrowed it down to just 5.

[@Jinseual]

Great video, this would have made a great addition to History Buff's debunking of Kingdom of Jerusalem.

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

Thanks Jinseual.

[@MrBlobbyz]

What I always find puzzling is that if Ridley Scott and his team wanted to make a medieval kind of story but with contemporary ideals about religion, why not pull a Berserk or LOTR and make an alternate world based on earth and have the countries and conflict alluding to their real world history counterparts? They could've gotten the whole "Two faiths can respect each other and coexist" idea without bastardizing public perception of actual history.

[@IFORBIDANYDATACOLLECTIONTOALL]

Sebastian Chavira because Sebastian, it is one of their goals to destroy and demonize anything good that Christendom has ever done because they hate Christ

[@city_of_coompton6832]

Dude you're being far too charitable. I'd bet the purpose of this movie was to rewrite history in the public consciousness according to their liberal narrative

[@giltineful]

My very thoughts. Couldn’t they have set the story in the Norman Kingdom of Sicily? Around the same time of “Kingdom of Heaven”, the Kingdom of Sicily was a melting pot of Greek-Byzantine, Normans, Arabs and all cohabited peacefully. It would have made a perfect example of respect and tolerance.

[@captaintexican5993]

@@IFORBIDANYDATACOLLECTIONTOALL The movie is a personal perspective driven retelling of historical events. But don't ever mistake The Crusades as anything good Christendom has done. It began as radical religion and then was further perverted by power hunger and greed. The part of the Crusades that the movie villainizes that I don't agree with though, are the Templars. Although I will admit they too fell pretty to power and greed eventually, they had benevolent intention initially and are responsible for many modern institutions such as the credit and debit banking system.

[@IFORBIDANYDATACOLLECTIONTOALL]

@@captaintexican5993 While I appreciate your respectful reply, I disagree. You are of course partially correct, but in general the crusaders were well respected, and well behaved citizens. As a historical researcher specifically of war, and very interested in the Crusades, I can say for certain that there is so much more to it than you know. I welcome you to study more, and then make your judgement about who the people were, and why sometimes bad things happened

[@DavidHelling]

Just stumbled upon this channel. I'm very excited to dig into all these videos! Thanks for putting the time into all this!

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

thanks!

[@Thor-Orion]

Dude, it’s THE best. His merch is high quality too, if you’re interested in clothes without excessive branding his t shirts and hoodies are really cool.

[@Kitiwake]

A Catholic viewpoint and therefore a truthful and honest opinion. Well done.

[@aaronryan6160]

A lot of movies are propaganda sadly!

[@perretlaurent6665]

Hollywood is a shithole. Except Oliver Stone, they all are the slaves of lie and left propaganda.

[@LuvBorderCollies]

Oliver Stone has problems telling the truth in it proper light.

[@TheRonster9319]

@@perretlaurent6665 lol

[@lampad4549]

@@perretlaurent6665 haha troll

[@smithryansmith]

While I agree on everything you say, I do think the Holy orders showed a bit more tolerance towards Muslims on occasion. For example, there is the famous passage from Usama where he is visiting Jerusalum during a truce and was grabbed by a secular Christian knight who is offended at him praying towards Mecca. It was a Templar who came to Usama's aid, explaining that the knight was a "foreigner" from Europe and had not seen anyone praying like that. So at least Templars could be tolerant in times of peace. King Amalric also showed respect for Islam in his philosophical questions to Guilliame of Tyre, which cast doubts on the superiority of Christendom. So while I wholeheartedly agree that the film tries to modernize attitudes, there was a bit more tolerance on the Crusaders part, something which is often ignored by modern demonizing of crusaders. Great channel, as always.

[@Thor-Orion]

Oh, I think you’re misinterpreting what he said. He did say that they would be tolerant towards Muslims living in their lands like Saladin was tolerant towards Christian civilians living in his lands. It’s just that they wouldn’t place emphasis on protecting Muslims and Jews over protecting Christians as that was a direct dialogue exchange in the movie between Baldwin and Balian(?).

[@smithryansmith]

@@Thor-Orion fair enough. It was so long ago I dont remember what was said.

[@Thor-Orion]

@@smithryansmith hahaha, yeah for sure brother, totally understandable, 2 years is a long time to remember one specific line in a KZbin video. Take care of yourself!

[@Bigbassdrum60]

Ridley Scott has a way of twisting and revising history. He did it in Gladiator as well. Commodus, son of Marcus Aurelius, the Emperor fought in many gladitorial fights as history tells. The Roman Armor and tactics were also way way way off. His Praetorian Guards looked like something out of Star Wars.

[@jvt_redbaronspeaks4831]

Mr. Elf orlandie bloom raved how historical this movie was. Jeremy Irons was a bit more down to earth. He said it was nearer to history than Hollywood usually gets it because most of the people, places, events were historic.

[@pammienakh]

Presentism is always a problem with historical movies or in writing about historical events. Unfortunately not many have the foggiest notion about other times and places.

[@Downsouth1796]

Thank you for these wonderful videos

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

You're very welcome my friend!

[@MaidenTrollBlood]

I liked that movie because of how realistically medieval it LOOKED, but you're right, now that I think back, it's really depressing considering the characters' attitudes. I want to see characters with fire in their souls, something to make me feel a lively inspiration. This post modern attitude is lame and gloomy. And that's how this movie made me feel from beginning to end. Everbody's grey attitude is quite boring.

[@almighty5839]

Facts Bailen or Orlando literally sounds like he’s bored half the fuckin time

[@MrGrin-ot5yg]

Thank you for this

[@lc9245]

I was taken aback, only 5? Jokes aside, I appreciate the artistry of KoH. The scale and mood of the film is probably the best we can expect from an epic with the crusade as backdrop. Looking at the future of cinema, movies like these will be a thing of the past. I appreciate this the same way I appreciate HBO Rome, for the artistry and flair, because if I let history gets in the way, I’ll end up becoming their script supervisor. At least it wasn’t as dumb and inaccurate as Troy, which ruins itself by trying to stick Iliad in.

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

It was just as dumb and inaccurate as Troy.

[@rafaeldiromano2085]

Great video!

[@abrahemsamander3967]

I know this video is 2 years late. But this video is very good. Also, it’s nice to know you and Helena Schraedar have a podcast. I’ve been a fan of you for a few months. And I’ve heard of Helena and want to buy her books. It’s nice you know eachother and collaborated.

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@secario2135]

@@RealCrusadesHistory what about the siege and artillery like using the siege tower by muslims i read some where it was a Hollywood fiction and it's not true ???

[@SPTX.]

By the way, "outre mer" literally means "beyond the sea".

[@showme443]

You wouldn't be able to push seige towers right up to a castle. They all had pits or moats around castles just for that reason.

[@ccptube3468]

Especially Jerusalem! It has ditches n obstacles around its outer walls!

[@Fulcrumn9]

And, siege towers werent as often used to storm towers, more to have an upper archer position and viewpoint

[@AlexKomnenos]

Ugh, Ridley Scott is the ultimate revisionist. Plus he has an axe to grind against the Church. All of his films depicting the medieval church all show priests and Christians as kind of sniveling and conniving characters, King Arthur, Kingdom of Heaven

[@giltineful]

He's agnostic that's why. Also, it's very easy to target the Church nowdays, when you don't face "practical" comeback anymore.

[@giltineful]

@Definitely a George Soros funded bot it's too easy to target someone who doesn't react to provocations.

[@David-db8zr]

The constant agnosticism in the film bothered me greatly. I would imagine that agnosticism would have been foreign to the medieval mindset; and it would not have made much sense to go on a Crusade if that were the case.

[@jaimegutierrezjag78]

He showed king baldwin as a great person

[@kensebego199]

Because he is critical of the church lol.

[@somerledislay9987]

Most historical films 99%+ are inaccurate Robin Hood to Brave Heart the list is almost endless , if you dont intend making a film historically accurate ,just make something like Ben Hur or Game of Thrones no ?

[@deusvult7750]

All are Scot's movie's

[@peterongan9655]

And all of them have many bad writing, like ben hur and the most disappointing of all is GoT seasson 8.

[@CESSKAR]

I saw it again yesterday. I still haven't decided if the "make the world a better place" constantly shoved in is appropriate or not. It sounds very close to the idea of Progress.

[@robertlyon8876]

Very good, thanks

[@casperjack7452]

Wow. That was excellent.

[@danieldelewis2448]

are there any really good films that cover the events of the time of Baldwin IV ?

[@Tenjac]

How did you narrow it down to 5?

[@geoffreyreeks2422]

Thank you. Regards, Geoff. Reeks

[@kirkhansen9473]

I generally can't enjoy movies that butcher history, but this movie is one that I am able to still enjoy. It is good from a perspective of cinema and the soundtrack is amazing (composer is Harry Gregson-Williams, same guy as did the Disney Narnia movies). Unlike, say, Braveheart, the movie still more or less follows the correct course of events, which helps me suspend my disbelief. Another thing that helps my willful suspense and my enjoyment is that the portrayal of medieval combat is well above average in my opinion. Like any Hollywood movie, there's some nonsense (like holding an arming sword two handed above the head), but the cavalry charges are handled pretty well, and there are times when ARMOR ACTUALLY WORKS.

[@ModernFossilOuttakes2004]

Is it cool or creepy that the moment you uploaded this I was watching this movie

[@wantonmee23]

God wills it.

[@IblewuponyourfaceIII]

Can you make a video on the best Crusades/Crusader Movies?

[@chpa1432]

I will just say one thing. War changes a person. I dont think you can expect a man to be the same man after years of constant war.

[@christopherbui3551]

I was curious what kind of ring did King Baldwin IV have in the movie?, although it was shown briefly when he was punishing Raynold of Chatillon

[@tristankeech4070]

We are talking about the directors cut right?

[@dashinvaine]

Good points made. One quibble: Did Sibylla follow Gui into captivity after Hattin? I was under the impression she stayed in Jerusalem and then accompanied the evacuees to one of the coastal cities that remained in Christian hands (Tripoli, apparently). Then rejoined the released Gui when he tried to get into Tyre, and then (having been refused entry by Conrad of Montferrat) set about besieging Acre, which had also fallen to Saladin meanwhile. I gather and her daughters perished in an epidemic during that siege. (The film, fantastically enough, has Sibylla going to France to become a blacksmith's wife.) Good point about Saladin doing the opposite as regards the cross, though apparently the crucifix the Saracens abused in Jerusalem was the one that the Crusaders had put up above the Dome of the Rock. Another error in the film is that it has a blanket release of the Franks of Jerusalem, when in fact a ransom was required (though for some it was waved). Also many did not escape but had the misfortune to be taken as slaves and subjected to humiliating abuse. Not a hint of that in the film. The idea that the crusaders were insincere in their motivation is a projection by modern ideologues who have a problem believing in religious people being likewise sincerely ideological.

[@diegoandrade467]

Sibylla was quite safe after Hattin, held up somewhere in Tripoli and dying when Guy besieged Acre

[@sheilahorn8913]

Thanks! I've never seen this movie. Will have to check it out. I got a laugh when you described Balion being emo🤣. We know better though,don't we?!

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

Thanks Sheila! I appreciate that very much.

[@haveswordwilltravel]

Could you please post the link to the podcast that you mentioned in the video?

[@gc3k]

Thanks, really enjoyed it (your video, not the movie)

[@Humbertusmarius]

I was wondering, are there any good, historically accurate movies about the crusades?

[@risenfromyoutubesashesagai6302]

Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves... the Costner one.

[@StudM01]

@@risenfromyoutubesashesagai6302 ... wut?

[@einsam_aber_frei]

Monty python and the Holy Grail is pretty accurate

[@leegaffrey3823]

Thank you the podcast. I really enjoyed your novel. I am currently reading "Crusades Trilogy" by Jan Guillou.

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

Thanks so much Lee. Really glad you liked this episode, and my book as well. If you get a chance, please leave a little review on my book's Amazon page. www.amazon.com/Why-Does-Heathen-Rage-Crusades-ebook/dp/B01F9CGX54#customerReviews

[@abdullahisgood9138]

We need part two

[@xallstatex2910]

I also was taken aback by many of these details, while watching the movie... ESPECIALLY the whole adulterous nature of Baldwin's sister, and her indifference regarding her husband Guy. I had actually recently read up on much of the available background info, and so was acutely aware of what had been the nature of her feelings for the dashing, young fool (as per the information regarding the subject.... In fact, she was over the Moon for the young adventurer, and even had BEGGED her brother, The King, to permit their union, to which he eventually relented, showcasing the loving brother that he truly was... 😀

[@nathfer7755]

Thanks ❤❤🙏

[@kingbaldwiniv5409]

I am King Baldwin IV of Jerusalem and I approve of this message. I have been advocating an important plan, a very important plan, to cut off Egyptian agriculture from the rest of the Muslim world. It's a great plan, the best plan. I have also never colluded with Putin/Saladin. Make Jerusalem Great Again. aside- the closest thing to religious tolerance was the Polish/Lithuanian Commonwealth, 400 years later.

[@kingbaldwiniv5409]

Sir Wimsy de Pimpington, absolutely true!

[@respectablebogan3276]

King Baldwin IV im dead XD

[@Ciara1594]

Following the current riots, looting, rapes and murders approved of by the Left...how do you feel now?

[@rickyyacine4818]

@@Ciara1594 left Babylon should be destroyed

[@seanvanglahn4002]

What about the fact that balian of ibelin never got with Sybilla at all?! In fact, he remarried her (and king Baldwin's) mother and had at least four children with her. How was this not a number when it's one of the biggest and most historically inaccurate plot points in the whole movie, IMO? I really thought that would be number 1 on this list and then I was REALLYYY surprised that it wasn't any number or even mentioned at all!!!

[@vlastakadric4206]

It’s a movie, my gosh.

[@janetleineke1606]

Good Morning Arcturiun~ Fr. L.R.A.

[@jimrutin]

Thank you for this. I watched the movie already knowing the history. The movie is so bad, it is conceivable that it will be used someday in the future to show how politics can poison and ruin what could have otherwise been a truly great film. After all they had the big money in the big actors, they just had it all wrong in their hearts...they had an ax to grind.

[@stefanvella9807]

Dead on. I'm glad i found this. Kingdom of heaven is an anti-Christian movie . I couldn't stand it even since the 1st time i saw it, that crusader knights talking and reasoning like modern day liberals. or who was a real crusader in real time was portrayed as a villain and those accused of being traitors like Raymond of Tripoli (Tiberius) is portrayed as the perfect knights. Or when balian says "we fight not to protect these stones but the people living within these walls". They fought to defend pilgrims but most of all and one of the main reasons why the crusades where launched was to protect the holy sites associated with Jesus paricularly The Holy Sepulcher, Golgotha etc. Even the Patriarch of Jerusalem was portrayed as villain and something i could never stand for is when he said "Convert to Islam, repent later". Come on. King Baldwin IV before he died would obviously confess like any other catholic but strangely he replied "i will confess to God not to you" like a protestant. I can find a dozen errors in kingdom of heaven. Tiberius condemning Templars to be hanged? what the hell? Military crusading order could not be judged unless it comes directly from the pope. And Templars were real warriors the best there was they didn't raid and kill innocents.

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

Thanks, I appreciate you checking out the discussion. Yes, the movie is absurd, and annoying for anyone who appreciates the real history. It's also boring. The characters are lifeless and dull. The real history and personalities are riveting and fascinating. Check out my documentary on the reign of King Baldwin IV, the events are incredible: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmivY5iNrLakbpY

[@stefanvella9807]

@@RealCrusadesHistory Thanks to you. I'v been following your channel even with my previous account for years. Your videos are something i was looking for, very informative, detailed and always clearing out myths and errors about the crusaders and crusades based on reliable and eyewitness accounts. Thanks for the link i'm gonna check it out now. King Baldwin IV was extraordinary.

[@Fulcrumn9]

I couldnt even finish it bc it was so bad

[@stevencarrier2466]

Ridley Scott was forever notorious for making up his own historical "facts".

[@warbler1984]

Except he never claimed them to be facts...he's openly admitted that he likes to take liberties with history

[@grimaldus1523]

@@warbler1984 then he shouldn't use a historical setting to do so.

[@grimaldus1523]

@Starscream91 no he shouldn't, especially when he is going to demonize one side and victimize the other. Historians even told him that his movie had historical errors and he basically said "every historians an expert"

[@grimaldus1523]

​@Starscream91 I don't like them demonizing the germans, and why would it be a problem of me complaining about them? This subject is on medieval history, not modern history.

[@grimaldus1523]

@Starscream91 I don't see anyone citing shakespeare as a historical source, I have argued with people who use Kingdom of heaven as one.

[@michaelmccabe3079]

You guys ought to make your books into a series, like hoe 'The Killer Angels' led to 'Gods and Generals' and 'Last Full Measure.' Hopefully, we can one day give the Crusades the 'Gettysburg' treatment. :)

[@edinscot56789]

King Baldwin IV dying young was the worst thing that ever happened to the Kingdom of Jerusalem.

[@montieluckett7036]

The only truth that can be said about the film KOH is the protagonist and the antagonist were in the same country at the same time.

[@delphinazizumbo8674]

stopped at five? the entire thing is as historical as an episode of Star Trek... it's hysterical

[@FireRayquaza24]

I don’t know how you make a movie about the crusades and not even mention the Romans/Byzantines in the slightest

[@rickyyacine4818]

They showed in Anglos dynasty trash in like 10 sec rip Constantinople

[@dodgerblue1963]

Love this film but felt it to modern Hollywood mind set. So that you for showing iti

[@fishingislife9554]

Despite the historical innacuracy the visuals and soundtrack was very good,

[@ComradeCommissarYuri]

Did anyone watch the historical timeline version of the movie?

[@dbo514]

Thanks for this podcast. What about a podcast on five good aspects of kingdom of heaven. I understand that might be difficult lol but I think there is some nuance and high points in the film.

[@dbo514]

I agree with most of your points, especially with the hospitaliers attitude and the portrayal of sybilla’s relationship with guy but for instance Baldwin IV mentioned winning a great victory and I don’t think it’s fair to say that he was entirely peace loving in the movie.

[@dbo514]

And I’ll agree that whatever merit KOH has is probably more from a cinematographic perspective than a historical one. I think it’s visually striking and it got a lot of people interested in the crusades, and Edward Norton’s character was great, if not spellbinding.

[@AlexKomnenos]

dbo514 good point, I agree

[@warbler1984]

(I know your comment is 2 years old but anyway): Some of the problems is that the narrative had to be changed to fit the Hero's Journey. But points such as making the characters almsot non-religious was a step a little too far. Look up Like stories of Old Kingdom of Heaven he has 2 great videos on this

[@horse1048]

I just wanted to say that, as a devout Muslim, you speak about my religion respectfully and accurately. I wanted to thank you for that you put a lot of research into your videos, and it shows. Additionally, I'm glad you brought up the scene where Salah Al-Din picked up the cross. When I saw that in the movie, it was one of the most ridiculously false things. I mean this with respect; in my faith, the cross is seen as an idol, and to think a devout Muslim like Salah Al-Din would show it with such care is crazy. An essential part of our faith is no idols ever under any condition. Most Muslim rulers would have ordered every cross broken and burned, just as the Prophet Muhammad, may peace be upon him, ordered the breaking of idols in Mecca. And most Muslim soldiers would have been happy to do so.

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

It's true, both medieval Christians and Muslims were portrayed incorrectly in this film.

[@hellavadeal]

The only thing somewhat accurate i saw were names , places , costumes and time period.

[@sarrumac]

Costumes?

[@hellavadeal]

Yes stretching it a bit.

[@sarrumac]

The picture of Sybilla in the video is wrong in so many ways though.

[@metamaggot]

the armour the muslims use is the wrong place and time period..it's 15th century ottoman zirah baktar

[@hellavadeal]

@@metamaggot , your right, I didn't notice.

[@henrythemuthafuckineighth]

I like this movie, specifically the director’s cut, but I would never use this or any movie as a historical basis for anything.

[@thinkandrepent3175]

I'll never understand Hollywood's weird fascination with taking a profound Historical event, in this case, the Kingdom of Jerusalem's fight against Saladin, and twisting it into their own post-modern, depressed, cynical, atheistic, deterministic, nihilistic garbage. I remember I couldn't even get through this movie back then it bothered me so much. Also "The Messenger" The Joan of Arc movie that portrayed one of Catholicism's most Holy Saints as a cross between a schizophrenic and a megalomaniac. The blasphemous way they portrayed Our Lord in that film was disgusting.

[@earid7227]

Still the movie is a masterpiece , also a reason I found your Chanel. Such a informative channel it is. Glad to find it.

[@trentpeterson3495]

I'm pretty sure even when I was 13 or 14 watching this movie I knew it wasn't historically accurate.

[@s.t.santos5928]

Having lived in the Middle East for a few years and immersed in its culture a bit, I could say that your historical observations are more credible than were depicted in the film. In fact, nothing has dramatically changed that much in terms of their attitude towards 'infidels' and their motivation to wage wars vs. them - only their means to their end have changed with the times. Same old, same old.

[@Sarmad_1989]

In which part of middle east? Also infidels is something used by the crusaders.

[@s.t.santos5928]

@@Sarmad_1989 Saudi Arabia.

[@joeijoei1837]

which part do you live in. I could say the same in places like Quebec Canada or mid US. major cities in KSA love globalization and love the western culture. So I really don’t know where you are going with this. Do they like their way of life ? yes of course and they are proud of it. but They don’t hate or treat ‘infidels’ with disrespect in fact now a days they are more respected and paid a lot more for there skills. Most of them live happily in places like Jeddah Riyadh and dammam. Saudi is not same old same old there’s nothing the same about it especially in the past 5 years. Totally disagree

[@ivanl7449]

The landscape of the holy land in the movie is depicted as too dry and vegetationless

[@Toetalwar]

a lot of filmakers seem to this that every desert is the deep sahara

[@jennifersantiago8747]

I’ve visited Israel and believe me, the landscape especially outside of Jerusalem is too dry and vegetationless, obviously not the whole country has this type of geography, but they have technology to develop green areas in arid zones!!

[@jimmybobby4824]

It was different back then

[@ivanl7449]

There are desserts there, but its not all covered in desserts. There are half desserts but there are also areas with a lot of vegetation. For example, when Richard the Lionhearth marched to Jerusalem during the 3rd crusade, Saladin ambushed him in Arsuf forrest.

[@annieandelsieofarendelle3294]

I'm writing a book about the life of a young Knight Templar, do you have any advice for me?

[@arturkvieira]

Grow up

[@mysticdragonwolf89]

Read sources from all sides sides - the Templar’s, the Muslims, and the Assassins - yes I said Assassins. They were active during this period and have worked with the Templar’s on occasions. However assassins creed spins them out to be nothing like what they actually were. They were feared by all

[@VenomTeen722]

I watched the directors cut and liked it a lot. Guess it helps I'm not a history buff. I just didn't like the acting of Orlando Bloom in this

[@kensebego199]

Well tbh Ridley Scott never aims for accuracy, he stated in an interview that he doesn't actually care about how accurate a movie is and if someone wants historical accuracy then they should read a book. I think he enjoys adding his own spins to history and whatnot lol and that's why I've never taken his movies seriously. Kingdom of Heaven made me chuckle based on how inaccurate he was.

[@zerosaber257]

Psa :not historically accurate should be added Everytime one of these are made to not feed people's ignorance

[@davidd4696]

@@zerosaber257 Who gets history from movies?

[@shunoinori]

@@davidd4696 A surprising number of people. Movies, like every form of media, affect the way people think (regardless of whether or not they're fiction). For example, the climate change movement didn't really enter the public consciousness until the release of the 2004 disaster flick The Day After Tomorrow. From what I've heard, Schindler's List is often shown in history class in the US even though it's an adaptation of a novel.

[@AtticTapes14]

His movies looks awesome as art.

[@marselluswallace6]

You have to watch the directors cut. much better

[@perretlaurent6665]

The best thing to do is to show this movie in school and talk about all these historical non senses.

[@koorabelayo4035]

Movies are not based on history books they are just stories with narative.

[@davidd4696]

why would you do that for a movie? unless you think movies are based on facts versus books..

[@yinhonglin9592]

I come here just for the cover of Eva

[@williamf.buckleyjr3227]

You're going to laugh, but your first observation is not only very useful, it also applies to - I'm not kidding - "Little House on the Prairie". That show's entire premise was what America was like in the latter 19th century, however, the plots and problems presented were CLEARLY those of the latter TWENTIETH century, to mention nothing of the glaring anachronisms.

[@shanehudson3995]

Next you're going to tell me Gladiator isn't remotely accurate.

[@watermelontreeofknowledge8682]

Shane Hudson yeah you’re right but gladiator is such a good movie, I can’t fault it too much

[@Jalide]

Are you willfully dense? Gladiator does not profess to be a historical film. Its an adventure, drama action movie set in Rome. Kingdom of Heaven portrayed real people, organizations and events in a very distorted manner because the writer and director could not help himself hammering his very special modern California atheist-liberal worldview into the audience.

[@IceNiner199]

@Joey "Kingdom of Heaven portrayed real people, organizations and events in a very distorted manner" Really? Marcus Aurelius and Commodus didn't exist? Commodus didn't actually fight people in the arena in an attempt to gain fame and love from the masses as a Gladiator? There wasn't a Roman military campaign going on in Germania at the time with Aurelius in command? So, were the events, people and organizations in Gladiator portrayed in a very distorted manner, or did Commodus actually die fighting in the arena? Was there truly a battle with flame pot throwing canisters as was portrayed at the beginning of Gladiator, or is that a distorted event?

[@Khalid________]

Jimmy it was a joke...

[@draconisdragonheart4248]

I started watching this movie once then turned it off. I saw it as the epic historical drama that wasn't historic.

[@kirkhansen9473]

Regarding the 5th point on this video, that roadside priest saying "To kill an infidel is not murder, it is the path to heaven," is representative of a common misconception in modern people about what Pope Urban II said when he authorized the Crusade. Catholics believe that Christians who die with unconfessed sins go to purgatory. This is why last rights is so important to the Roman Catholics--it is the final chance to confess and repent of any remaining sins, lest the dying person spend time in purgatory. It's also important to note that the Roman Catholic Church translated the sixth commandment as a literal "Thou shalt not kill," rather than "Do not murder." Therefore, killing anyone, even in self-defense or in battle was considered to be a sin. Priests attempting to render last rights on battlefields was a thing, but it was certainly a dangerous practice, even if it wasn't being done in the midst of fighting. What the Pope actually said was that, for those who went on Crusade, and wore the sign of the Cross, if they killed a non-Christian in battle while on Crusade, and were thereafter slain before they were able to see a confessor, they would not spend time in purgatory due to having killed a person in that context. So, if they had no other unconfessed sins, they would go straight to heaven, which is how this killing=going to heaven bit came to be. I imagine that the Islamic Jihadist ideal being confladed with the Crusade also doesn't help.

[@SuperRichyrich11]

Just 5? There's probably 500 major inaccuracies in that dumb movie lmao

[@templarioaph]

only 5?

[@jakemiller2507]

Probably should've called this video *top* 5 historical errors...

[@Haywood2]

Just 5 there is a truckload

[@Vack91]

Yeah, the movie seems to have a modern moral that appears motivated by the actual situation back then in Jerusalem - at the end of the film, they even wrote that the kingdom of heaven hasn’t found peace to this day, or something like that. Still, I think that it’s also an error to think about medieval people as completely intolerant and with a total lack of empathy. They were still humans, and they tolerated other religions in their kingdoms. Some were more tolerant than others, and as far as I know, Saladin was described as fair, generous, and pious, and he permitted other religions within his empire. Maybe I’m wrong.

[@kingtut4509]

one BIG error or omission is that Bailan was married to Sybilla's stepmother, Queen Maria...

[@justinheat1]

biggest error was orlando bloom.

[@deusvult7750]

Only 5?

[@danielgardlock]

Only 5. But still enjoy these types of movies

[@matthewmelange]

What's with her hand? Leprosy?

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

Henna.

[@rickyyacine4818]

@@RealCrusadesHistory u knew henna I thought only arab knew about it 🤔

[@proboiriawan2204]

saladin didnt release all christian captives like in movie, christian should pay ransom themself for freedom (price men,women, children were different). if they couldnt pay, captives should choose convert being moeslem or sentenced death or sold as slave

[@johnjamele]

Just FIVE? There is almost nothing about this film that is remotely historically accurate.

[@christianboulay4722]

There's hundreds, of inaccuracies. But, I understand they needed to make amendments for "movie" plot. Though I think history it's self, was worth showcasing as close as possible. Kingdom of Heaven was a success if we look at how many would be historians and medieval enthusiast it spawned, from its release to such a broad number of people, albeit some are still blinded by it. Wasn't there a Historian lady who seemed to have first heard of Guy De Lusignan in Kingdom of Heaven movie, and decided to make "work" of her own based on his inability to lead, due to movies premise. Hilarious. Guy De Lusignan wouldn't have been followed by a single Knight if they had a slight hunch he was incapable of a task such as that. Sometimes, thy made judgement that is easy for historians to take apart and recompile and criticize piece by piece. But sadly, not everyone had a luxury of sitting Infront of laptop, surrounded by all the modern luxuries, including fresh drinkable water and any type of food imaginable. Decisions were made and depreciation accepted.

[@indydude3367]

Maybe put a few more pictures in; Balian, Godfrey, Tiberias, Reynald, battle scenes. Don't need the girl.

[@Wolfen443]

There are lots historical mistakes in the film, even the characters in real life never met even. But I forgave those for the rest of the historical details.

[@jonathonkamph9399]

I drink water from what it is.