5 Iconic Gaming Weapons That Aren't As Real As You Think - Loadout

[@harima9597]

WA-2000 is so expensive that only professional high-class hitman like agent 47 would use.

[@IrregularDave]

“the money has been wired to your account, 47”

[@Nob911]

They don't cost that much

[@dimaswitanto2994]

$75.000-$90.000 you could get a Total of 7 50°Bmg which is one of the most powerfull and advanced sniper in earth or 24 scars-17 / 40 AR-15 0r 2 Fgm-148 javelin which is a launchers chambered in target tracker Rocket that could take M1 Abrams in a single shot

[@alwaysOPEN4business]

Or James Bond

[@SynthLizard8]

Something that the Kashmirian wish he had.

[@floyddog2283]

“A whopping 7.9- That’s not so bad “Kilos” Oh

[@Gottaculat]

Yeah, when you expect them to say pounds, and are like, "how does that thing weigh the same as my Mossberg 500?"

[@ToxicSkull0]

Cries in Double AK’s

[@sumvs5992]

That's basically a 1919

[@gazz3867]

@@ToxicSkull0 Measuring weight in AKs? Muricans go to any lenghts to avoid the metric system. =P

[@DC-ru5xz]

In other words, the AA12 does the jackhammers job at a fraction of weight and cost

[@Kannamoris]

I hate how they didn't even mention that the FMG was literally just a Glock in a fancy housing.

[@Rashed1255]

It was mentioned that its just a box with a sort of fully automatic pistol inside, though the G18 wasn’t mentioned. Can anything other than a Glock be used with it? 🧐

[@infinitsai]

@@Rashed1255 i know there are some games that use cz75'ish pistol grip for their fmg9, but i cant find any evidence that it can be fitted with a non glock irl

[@TheeNino]

I don’t think it’s just a glock in fancy housing. It’s not made by glock but by magpul. They use glock interchangeable products like magazines and maybe some of the internal stuff. Other than that, I think it just might the magazine that makes it look like a glock

[@Idogames4]

@@TheeNino Magpul manufactures the houseing but you actually stick a glock pistol inside without it it would just be the houseing.

[@Rashed1255]

@@TheeNino I’ve only heard of the FMG-9 being a box (Carbine conversion kit) that u put a Glock into, don’t know if there are other pistols that can fit into it. There are also foldable Glocks so that kinda adds up.

[@rcforb5255]

3:03 It angers me to see empty cases flying out of a caseless amunition gun

[@budmeister]

RDR2 also has the same issue as the Volcanic doesn't have casings, all the powder is in the hollowed out section in the back of the bullet.

[@mikafor]

In call of duty world at war, they didn't change the animation coding they borrowed from some other shotguns in the game. So when you fired it you'd see a shell fly out of the side. Then you'd eject the same shells when you reloaded. Magic!

[@andychrist2922]

Lol

[@UgandanAirForce]

@@budmeister doesn't the description of the volcanic pistol in RDR2 on the weapons catalog explain that the one(s) you're buying were converted to use cartridges?

[@Llyd_ApDicta]

@@budmeister TBF though, RDR2 was a huge disappointment when it came to guns imho. I mean there were so many firearms back then and you have like 5 pistols/ revolvers, 5 rifles and the same amount in shotguns.

[@JackIsMe1993]

Ian's got everyone covered.

[@dongulio5539]

Gun Jesus has everyone covered

[@LMau-t9r]

"its rare but we know what the inside of those guns look like" thx Ian

[@asierurteaga1227]

You thought that hes gun jesus by hes apearence?

[@isiffrin]

"Even causing the entire companys downfall." Zip 22: "First time?"

[@C4CHopeless]

Remington: Am I late to the party?

[@kevinsullivan3448]

@@C4CHopeless Colt (for the 4th or 65th time): No, we saved you a seat.

[@C4CHopeless]

CZ: What're you doing there Colt? You belong to me now. Come along now, time to try and fix your busted ass.

[@lepurpleboi3266]

Oh hey someone else who plays Soul Knight, noice

[@Mobius08]

I like how every weapon on this list has its own video on the Forgotten Weapons channel, including the XM8. Johnathan Ferguson also worked with Ian McCollum to publish a (one of his many) book titled "Thorneycroft to SA80: British Bullpup Firearms, 1901-2020."

[@IrregularDave]

One of my favourite channels on KZbin. Bless gun Jesus

[@ironicdivinemandatestan4262]

Blessed be his holy Chauchat!

[@redzeppelin6]

Watching him really makes videos telling me "guns you think are real" redundant. Praise Gun Jesus.

[@planescaped]

I like Forgotten Weapons. But I like C&Rsenal more.

[@kevinsullivan3448]

@@planescaped I like them both for different reasons.

[@Nate0493]

Remember: Switching to your pistol is always faster than unfolding your gun

[@Drrolfski]

The Heckler & Koch XM8 should really deserve more screen time. It's probably the most hyped, iconic and widely used weapon in Hollywood and videogames that besides some Malaysian forces never broke through.

[@StyxDescension]

I remember seeing it in Black Ops 2 and nerdgasming. Really wish it would appear more

[@rickyredbeard8274]

It’s a shame, it seems like a really cool modular platform.

[@QuickQuips]

No kidding. It was everywhere in mgs4

[@CombatVictory]

Well the xm8 is mostly just a g36 with different asthetics

[@bluecaptainIT]

@@CombatVictory true. The real innovation were the P-CAP mounts and the quickly interchangeable furniture. Unfortunately, like for the Masada, the competition caught up. No need to replace the M4 when 3rd parties provide cheaper solutions.

[@jmag196]

Whenever I see the pan or jackhammer all I can think about is Zach freaking out over how it’s not real

[@ffoulkes]

he really does not like that gun

[@budmeister]

Even though it technically is real, as a prototype.

[@kauske]

@@budmeister Pretty much, it's real enough two were tested to destruction, and we still have a toolroom prototype and blueprints. One with the right skills and tools could likely build a functional one if they want. As far as guns go, there are a lot less real ones to pick at. Especially an alt universe game like Fallout, it might have been adopted. Most guns getting turned down are more will of the brass than anything else. Plenty of bad designs have been adopted by nations due to various factors. All it takes is one good kickback in the right place and a sub-par gun becomes adopted. Even still, the Jackhammer was ultra-rare in Fallout, same with the G11. Hell, FO is so different they didn't even adopt the AR-15 as the US standard infantry rifle in favor of something that looks like a G-3. Putting it in a historically accurate game though? _That is a problem._ Otherwise, if it's pure fiction, or alt-history, why not alt guns too?

[@rouge5140]

@@kauske It wouldn't be a Pancor Jackhammer, Pancor doesn't exist anymore.

[@kauske]

@@rouge5140 That only means that the name is more or less up for grabs with no one left to hold the trademark on it. Also, if you're talking about an alt-history where it was adopted, it would mean that Pancor likely never went bankrupt.

[@ThePwNzclan]

"The pancor jackhammer weighs 7.9" oh that's not that bad "kilos". Holy shit

[@Viper-dz2kw]

Had the exact same reaction

[@koryfredrick1164]

What´s important to mention is that the Jackhammer was far less far along in development, and while all of the other examples had companies working on them, the Jackhammer was designed and worked on by a single man. The Jackhammer was still in early prototyping stage, and was for example held together with Allen head screws in some places, which definitely would have been changed for a full scale production model. Along with this, the design would have been changed to save weight and ease manufacture. So yeah, I kinda wish they´d mentioned that, as it sorta redeems the design, as it didn´t have all the kinks ironed out yet.

[@alephkasai9384]

@@Blazberry_Yaint Was the AA12 adopted by anybody? I didn't hear about that. I mean the Marines tested it but no confirmation on actual usage.

[@PirateCat822]

@@Blazberry_Yaint the M249 isnt so heavy after all.

[@rouge5140]

And they made a whopping 23.7 kilos of that gun

[@thememeteam858]

I think the g11 being in fallout 2 is reasonable, they managed to make plasma weapons and gauss weapons so making a viable g11 can’t be to hard

[@AnonEMus-cp2mn]

When the WA-2000 failed to meet expectations with the GSG9, the PSG-1 was adopted. A weapon also featured in Call of Duty Black Ops.

[@thesaddestdude3575]

PSG1 was there aswell!

[@mattrobson3603]

Also a very expensive rifle, particularly for its capabilities these days. Still a fraction of the price of the Walther, though.

[@iforgot87872]

I think it’s also in MW3

[@prantikasamadder5581]

@@iforgot87872 what about MW2?

[@Rltvader1]

@@prantikasamadder5581 no, not in MW2.

[@TheKhopesh]

The new (much more realistic) version of the Pancor Jackhammer is the AA12. It's an automatic 12ga shotgun that actually achieved everything the Jackhammer was supposed to be, and it looks very similar if you throw the 20 round drum mag on it.

[@lordcthulhu17]

"The g11 was in fallout 2" proceeds to show a clip of the rancor jackhammer equipped. (they were both in the game)

[@PrototypeSpaceMonkey]

Also Fallout's 10mm SMG is based on the HK SMG II, which was also a prototype that was never mass produced. And the fact that 10mm became the most popular round in the Fallout alternate universe is kind of a gun nerd in-joke referencing how the Bren Ten fell flat in our universe.

[@zonk4718]

It’s the Pancor Jackhammer, the Rancor is a Star Wars thing

[@weldonwin]

It was also in Chaser and FPS from the early 2000's

[@coolsenjoyer]

man, why did you have to remind me that there used to be all these cool modern or modern-ish weapons in Fallout.. now it's all just either weird borderlands shit that doesn't make any sense or like ww2 shit

[@avangion80]

Came to tell this same. But thank you.

[@barrymartinez9125]

Well to those who were wondering about the FMG. Magpul has officially announced that it will be moving this weapon into production, and is looking at a release for 2022. I can't wait

[@elahdivad3433]

Finally some good news!

[@ReSpark141]

2023 here, still no word about production

[@nat040496]

I think its funny how the Pancor Jackhammer literally has an MP5-SD handguard slapped on it as part of its design

[@HondaCivic-nq1by]

Didnt even realize that lol

[@nat040496]

@@HondaCivic-nq1by Yup, it's not even a joke. They literally took an MP5-SD and chopped off the handguard and shaped it to fit this gun.

[@hoppinggnomethe4154]

oh, it is MP5SD's handguard. I didn't notice it at all

[@davvvvo]

The MP5SD handguard is an addition by Movie Gun Services.

[@derPetunientopf]

Lets not forget that it never reached the final design stage because it was never adopted.

[@Crowley9]

To my knowledge one major reason the Pancor Jackhammer is so common in video games is that a person who was in possession of one of the prototypes also had connections to a place that did high-end 3D models by scanning real objects, and put it through there.

[@Blaze016]

3:03 "It was an experiment in a caseless ammunition weapon system" [shows G11 ejecting cases] Yes, I know that it was the game's problem, but I just thought it was funny.

[@SovietMarmalade]

That was the game’s problem. The real gun *is* caseless.

[@changes4339]

😂 that’s funny

[@Trunch1312]

Your fun at party aren’t you? (Just a joke just in case)

[@SovietMarmalade]

@@Trunch1312 ????

[@MosoKaiser]

And a funny extra touch is that they didn't go full silly with it and made it eject to the right, unlike quite many games with left-ejecting guns, thinking brass flying across the player's view when firing looks cool and have flipped weapon models for stuff like AKs...

[@SerathDarklands]

I've heard the G11 described as "Kraut space magic".

[@andyfriederichsen]

The XM29 OICW is also kind of famous among Half-Life fans do to its role in the beta versions of Half-Life 2 as the standard-issue rifle of the Combine (a massive alien empire stretching across multiple universes). It was later replaced in the final version of the game by the Pulse Rifle, an energy weapon that functions like a regular assault rifle.

[@richardpurves]

Since this video, a second Jackhammer has appeared. It was held by the widow of the Jackhammer designer and appeared for auction. It was a lot lighter than the tool room prototype that everyone knows.

[@liberator101]

Care to provide a link for the video or some pictures of some kind please?

[@Matt_History]

@@liberator101 those get deleted now, KZbin hates links that go off website

[@planescaped]

@@liberator101 I heard it mentioned on Forgotten Weapons IIRC. If you really need to know, then you'll have to google it. As was aforementioned, youtube auto-deletes posts with external links and has for over a year now.

[@richardpurves]

@@liberator101 If you search youtube, you'd have found it quicker than typing your message.

[@CRAM079]

The XM8 is to this day one of the coolest looking weapons ive seen.

[@m3gawither7734]

The reason there is only 1 jackhammer left is because Zach destroyed them all

[@tomboi941]

dont let mike get his hands on it either

[@derPetunientopf]

Its one and a half now. Ian from forgotten weapons had the half one a short while ago on his channel.

[@qrw460bhv6]

Ian found two more

[@m3gawither7734]

Zach: *heavy breathing*

[@Nick930]

12:35 nah... I recognize it from Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter

[@darryl635]

What a classic

[@victorvance84]

Nicholas nine hundred and thirty

[@Erarnitox]

3:05 case less ammunition drops bullet shells.........

[@hoppinggnomethe4154]

XD

[@smokharn3699]

Ah yes, find faults in 20 year old games.

[@budmeister]

​@@smokharn3699 RDR2 also has the same issue as the Volcanic doesn't have casings, all the powder is in the hollowed out section in the back of the bullet.

[@kauske]

Maybe to get adopted in whatever alternate version of history that's in, it had to dump caseless ammo, it wouldn't be the first time a major feature was altered in development.

[@dreaminginvalhalla1914]

@@budmeister You would be correct but the RDR2 one is converted to use normal pistol ammo.

[@mindlessconsumer]

Walther 2000 also appeared in Twilight:2000, but I used a scope on my HK-21 machine gun on single shot for sniping unless the Barrett was handy.

[@fireaza]

It's nice to see Hot Dogs Horseshoes and Hand Grenades getting some representation on KZbin!

[@lodagin]

"And remember, drawing your weapon is always faster than unfolding one"

[@aotoda486]

12:08 well, hold on, let's not forget about the Daewoo K11. Of course, there's no direct relationship, but it is quite the successor in spirit.

[@GuardianOfTheHeaven]

And less complex, too, thanks to the more traditional, albeit manually operated, bolt-action grenade launcher(yep, you heard me right; a bolt-action grenade launcher). But that, too, soon begins to fail as well as it begins to suffer catastrophic damages, and like the XM29 OICW, found to be too bulky and heavy as well, and very late, too. Very interesting take for a Korean-made guns, otherwise.

[@aotoda486]

@@GuardianOfTheHeaven Interestingly, despite all its troubles, the K11 is already in service: 2 airburst grenadiers every squad (in addition to the underslung grenadiers)

[@bodyno3158]

Daewoo K11, QTS-11, PAPOP... The list goes on, most of them won't get adopted though.

[@Moonstalker]

actually it does as americans have sold the prints of the OICW to the South koreans to make the K11

[@Rltvader1]

I love how you didn't even mention that the HK G11 went through multiple trials and developments, had it's ammunition developed to be reliable, and one last thing, was formerly procured and money was put aside in the German budget to buy a number of them, planning to replace G3s in service up to 2002. It only was pulled because the wall came down.

[@coobk]

or the thought behind the overengineered design: put as many bullets down range before the recoil kicks in

[@steffenknoll9136]

@@coobk It was not "as many bullets" as possible, but only for the three-shot-burst - similiar to design of the two-shot-burst of the AN-94. The idea was for conscripted shooters to have the accuracy of a single shot and the high rate of fire of a burst.

[@jeffbenton6183]

@@steffenknoll9136 True. Although conscripted soldiers might have a rough time actually maintaining the thing.

[@MegaZeta]

You love seeing yourself repeat things that are common knowledge among the sort of person watching this video and pretending that they make you smart

[@thicboibigsmoke7220]

@@jeffbenton6183 it’s a weapon that uses clockwork, and it was gonna be used by Germans, I’d bed that they definitely knew how to maintain it

[@By-s]

where I saw these weapons for the first time: Jackhammer: Die hard trilogy 2 - ps1 Hk G11: Syphon filter 2 - ps1 under the name H11 Wa 2000: Hitman blood money - ps2 FMG: Syphon filter 3 - ps1 under the name Mars OICW: Soldner secret wars - PC XM8: Ghost recon advanced warfighter 2 - PC under the name m8 XM25: COD MW3 - PC PS: According to Ian from forgotten weapons, The only surviving copy of The Jackhammer is merely a proof of concept prototype, which explains the unpractical reloading mechanism that requires partially disassembling the gun....check out the story behind the gun and the company on forgotten weapons which is sad.

[@igodreamer7096]

nice

[@tkondor]

I remember the Jackhammer from Project I.G.I.

[@BradderzSG]

I first saw the Jackhammer in Total Recall

[@Gottaculat]

As a long time gamer turned to gun enthusiast, I'm actually impressed by the selection in this video. The WA-2000 and the Thompson were my two favorite video game guns of all time, and when I became a gun owner and looked into buying either of them, my heart sank. Like the video showed, the WA-2000 starts around the $21K-$28K price range. As for the Thompson, an actual proper one with full-auto capability is gonna START at around $44K in bad condition, and ones in great condition can get as high as $145K. I found it amazing you can buy a semi-auto .50BMG like the M82 for less than half the price of a WA-2000, and the M82 and similar .50BMG semi-autos are gonna run you about $9K if you get the heavy af steel ones, or about $12K for the light weight carbon fiber models out there (they sell about 4 different variations at my local gun shop). Even those are way outside of a reasonable price range. So what've I bought? Well, I built my own 5.56x45mm AR-15 (no kit, just pure Frankenrifle) of about a $1,600 value for about $900 (building your own and buying parts during sales is the way to go), and my current project is an Enfield No.4 Mk1* that some fool sporterized (thank God they didn't chop the barrel or scallop the receiver). Bought it for $200, and have been restoring it to factory-spec, but also outfitted it with a 4-14x44mm first focal plane scope, and have made my own custom hand loaded ammo, and this thing is shooting 1,000 yards now with what I'd call "combat accuracy," all under $700 total. Video games got me into guns, and I couldn't be happier, even if a ton of iconic video game guns will never be mine. Was pretty funny that games had me convinced Glocks are awesome, but first time I held one, I know my face immediately turned to disgust; the grip is one of the worst grips I've ever held. Ended up favoring the Sig P226 - those things are sa-weet! Sig P365 is also a great pistol. While I'm upset with Springfield Armory, I also can't deny their Springfield XD is also a pleasure to shoot. My favorite handgun so far, though has been my .40S&W Astra A-100, which I've never once seen in any game or movie. Basically a heavy, all-steel version of the Sig P226. The steel frame can let you ramp up the .40S&W to some spicy handloads, significantly more powerful than .45ACP and about the same speed as 9mm, but with a big ol' 180gn bullet. Not as high cap as 9mm, as the gun is 13+1, but damn, looks classy af, is pin-point accurate, and has enough power to drop a black bear, making it a great defensive auto loader to have on your hip hunting in the mountains. Anyway, great video. I could talk both guns and games for days, lol!

[@mj12m]

holy shot he pronounced heckler & koch correctly

[@NEELZE99]

Yeah, but not Walther

[@mrnice81]

Meh, the 'Koch' was spot on, but he butchered the 'Heckler' and pronounced the ck similar to the ch in Koch.

[@toaster9922]

3:04 “It was an experiment in a caseless ammunition weapon system” *Footage shows cases flying out of the G11*

[@PaladinAzriel]

Surprised that you guys mentioned the G11 in Fallout 2 but not the Pancor, despite showing the Pancor equiped

[@dumbleking5172]

I can hear Zach crying tears of joy that the horrors of the Pancore Jackhammer are shown bare for everyone to see. He's also crying tears of joy because now he has something to direct Mike to in the case he brings it up again.

[@Avocado7765]

I love how they show the h3vr clip in every gun because that game has everything

[@chrisbrent7487]

There have been automatic shotguns that have been put into serial production. The AA12 and USAS come to mind as does the Saiga which has had automatic versions made. The WA2000 doesn't really count as a weapon that "isn't as real as you think" as it is real and went into serial production albeit a small production. "

[@joshuaradick5679]

Everyone: FMG isn’t real. Magpul: Well actually...

[@wookie-zh7go]

You know what else is rare that's always in video games, an L85A1 dumping a whole mag without stoppage xD

[@MannyXVIII]

3:03 I could slap the developer of this game for makng a CASELESS ammunition using rifle eject spend cartridges

[@gunmadonna]

tbf one of the main stumbling points with the caseless system the g11 uses is that it still has a plastic byproduct, so it practically still has cartridges, only they eject straight out the barrel

[@nickspencerfishingrodd2383]

@@gunmadonna that's a really weird gun

[@katieell4084]

They skipped over the most interesting thing about the G11 - it has a 3-rouind burst fire mode that was designed to be capable of sending three bullets downrange before the user feels any recoil. This burst was so fast that if the first shot was a little off target, at least one round would hit and an on-target shot had a high chance of putting all three rounds in the target almost all at once. They never figured out how to properly deal with the heat buildup of a mostly closed firing mechanism, but some of the system designs survived and might be used in future weapons. For the record, I first encountered this gun in Syphon Filter: The Omega Strain. I had a large book called Modern Small Arms on my coffee table at the time, and it was pretty cool to use an exotic gun like this in the game and then read about in a book on real guns. Also, the G3 in that game was borderline OP, but was super fun to use.

[@Yas_Sin]

I saw the jackhammer and the G11 at first in project IGI and IGI 2 Covert Strike respectively, god i loved the first game, i might even go play it now just to remember the good old days !

[@muwuny]

Have you heard about IGI Origins?

[@Yas_Sin]

@@muwuny Man i just heard it from you, this is one of the best news i've heard lately, thanks a lot !

[@verneh6764]

I remember first seeing the OICW as the more advanced NICW (Nanotech Individual Combat Weapon) in Red Faction 2, which looks incredibly similar. It was my favorite gun in that game, the assault rifle and grenade launcher combination was versatile and worked for everything you needed. It also featured the innate ability to highlight enemies with teal hologram boxes through walls at medium to close range, along with showing their HP value, which was pretty cool! Finding out it was an actual real weapon is pretty amazing, sad the idea didn't stick though.

[@skullmn3534]

Surprised there wasn't footage of RF2 in the video. On the first stage of the game, it's not painted blue, nor labeled as the NICW, (not sure the target tracking/data worked or not,) which I thought was an odd detail they included. So I looked it up to find it was based on the OICW.

[@jackburton9035]

This video should be called “4 out of these 5 were very real weapons that were made and tested”

[@By-s]

All of them were made and tested.

[@Jack-tu5zf]

Yeah, however that wouldn't get as many clicks...

[@Mr_Makina]

Well, I mean, its not really a lie, they weren't exactly real in their stance compared to other firearms, they were mainly just tossed to the back burner and forgotten about until games needed something different.

[@koryfredrick1164]

I think what OP meant was that the Jackhammer never went past prototyping stage, and while none of these weapons saw any actual adoption or service, the Jackhammer was far, far away from having a production model.

[@By-s]

@@koryfredrick1164 At least the Xm8 was adopted by Malaysia's navy specops.

[@PikkaBird]

3:25 Indeed it did, but the snippet you show has the Jackhammer on display (the G-11 was also in Land Warrior, BTW).

[@alexm566]

One thing in games, your arms don't get tired and accuracy drop even after firing thousands of rounds

[@JolanXBL]

10:00 Red Faction 2 has this, called the NICW. It's a silenced mg, with second fire being a fast moving grenade with no drop. It's practically an explosive-tipped railgun.

[@Efreeti]

The G11 was almost adopted. It made it through endurance trials, troop trials, and was greenlit. Really the thing that stopped it was the fall of the Berlin Wall and reunification of Germany. Less need for defense, money needed for reunification infrastructure and projects, and also surplus AK-74s from East Germany, and the adoption was cancelled.

[@Azeria]

9:20, MW3 specifically was set in the near future, 2013, which is why guns like that, CM901, KSG-12, and the latter mentioned XM25 as well, they were speculating on current prototype weapons that might’ve shortly seen service

[@iforgot87872]

3:04- woah I’m having a nostalgia attack. Someone help. I wasn’t ready.

[@wittsullivan8130]

The Pancor Jackhammer was also in Fallout and Fallout 2. The G-11's caseless ammo led to current ammo development that's almost there.

[@purpleYamask]

Fun fact: the SMG in Halo uses a top-loading caseless ammo mag as direct nods to the P90 and G11.

[@cantdestroyher7245]

What I’ve gathered from this is that realistically, simplicity is the best selling point for a gun

[@VertigoFree]

1. Functionality 2. Modularity 3. Simplicity 4. Cost. This isn't a fixed order. This is just what various MoDs tend to focus on when reviewing guns.

[@TheLakabanzaichrg]

Simplicity and costs

[@bitter_one1336]

The Magpul PDR warrants a mention for the sequel.

[@hoppinggnomethe4154]

because it's not that popular in video games

[@ghostly6175]

@@hoppinggnomethe4154 Ghost recon wildlands/breakpoint, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Contract wars, Ghost recon future soldier are the only games I know of with the pdr

[@FlyboyHelosim]

Two of my personal favorites not featured in this video are the O'Dwyer VLe (dual-caliber caseless 'Metal Storm' handgun) in Soldier Of Fortune: Payback, and the Crye Associates MR-C (bullpup 6.8mm caseless assault rifle with 50 round mag) in Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter and its sequel.

[@koryfredrick1164]

I just came on this video to see the obligatory Pancor Jackhammer in the thumbnail angry Zach noises comments. You can keep scrolling now

[@Iijjccbb]

I’m here for that too

[@cmm07r]

Delta Force game, now that's a blast from the past. Also, the OICW made a movie appearance in Die Another Day when Col. Moon used it to blow up the helicopter with "Depleted uranium shells, naturally"

[@deathraygonzo6339]

HK G11: "Hans, i'm going to make ze cuckoo clock into into a gun!"

[@timo4463]

that one is good even when its so simple

[@IRMacGuyver]

@0:40 there are two Jackhammers in existence and 2 that were destroyed for a total of 4 known examples.

[@Tekka87]

Cool to see H3VR get some mainstream exposure. Easily the best gun simulation.

[@IrregularDave]

I’ve only recently started playing with VR and it’s already my most played game. I was watching Jeditobiwan videos before I even owned a headset

[@speedevil22]

props for the Hardline footage. Sometimes i think im the only person who genuinely liked that game. Had it released without the Battlefield branding, as its own IP. It may have done well.

[@CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts]

Another would be the LSAT Battlefield and Ghost Recon Future Soldier both featured it when its been a functioning prototype for a decade or more

[@slavsupreme5129]

Absolute shame it didn’t seemingly proceed beyond the trial stage for the Army, seems like such a cool weapon platform

[@CarbonFiberToiletPaper]

The LSAT was a boss in Bo2

[@Homerboy44]

You guys added 007 NightFire's AIMS-20 on the OICW segment, that made my day right there.

[@shplamana]

How you going to do my favorite forgotten action hero, Gabe Logan, dirty like that and not mention the G11 was in Syphon Filter. It was an absolute beast of a weapon in that game.

[@falcon1378]

Or phantom forces.

[@TFD_Animations]

That 007 Agent Under Fire clip of it's "D-17" made my day!

[@HeliSniper479]

The OICW is very similar to the K11 rifle that South Korea are currently developing and looking to implement into their armed forces. I suspect the K11 was inspired by the OICW but I I'm not sure.

[@GravitWry]

I love how that they are essentially saying "We're looking at you Zach" by having the Pancor Jackhammer the the thumbnail.

[@igodreamer7096]

In Syphon Filter 3 we have a g11 that can shoot through walls. You forget to mention that game

[@By-s]

Nope, that was the AU300 which was based on the Steyr AUG, the g11 (called h11 in the game wich made its first appearance in Syphon filter 2) was just a scoped automatic rifle.

[@igodreamer7096]

@@By-s Oh, I get wrong then. Thanks! ^^

[@j4ff4c3ks1]

About the OICW, it also bears worth mentioning that even the XM25 has been criticized by it's weight and bulk for it's rather niche application; airburst grenades really are something that sounds really cool but hard to apply in practice.

[@kunalkishore2897]

Only legends know how awesome and badass is jackhammer in Project IGI 1,2

[@tylermunson1886]

ironsights did a good representation tho

[@GeneralFatman27]

The OICW era of video game weapons was pretty cool though. That thing was a beast in Nightfire.

[@acedirt2346]

Thanks for showing off footage from H3VR.

[@WasatchGarandMan]

I was OBSESSED with the XM29 as a kid. I literally drooled every time I saw one.

[@planescaped]

Woot Fallout 2 G11 reference! That's where I first fell in love with the gun and told every kid at middle school how it was the uber weapon!

[@jake.klusewitz]

I know this videos a bit older, but really loving this series. Keep it up!

[@Ok-gs4ge]

Fun fact: The OICW was intended to be in Half Life 2

[@Moonstalker]

The OICW is quite widespread but only SOF 2 used all its intended features on it. Most games only had it as a scoped assault rifle with a semi auto grenade either used as alt fire or as a fire mode.

[@christ4032]

@@Moonstalker The original Ghost Recon used it as well including with the laser and airburst

[@MrBlackdragon1230]

Ah the OICW my favorite prototype weapon. First used it in original Farcry and it was instantly my favorite weapon in the game.

[@RandomGuy0127]

Fun Fact: The OICW was planned to be in Half Life 2 however was scrapped and replaced by the far more futuristic Pulse Rifle

[@Switch78]

Jackhammer: It was also in a little known game PROJECT IGI. The G11 was in project igi also. And also the Walter. Great game. You would be surprised. There's also a sequel imaginatively named PROJECT IGI 2

[@nodiggity9472]

"I'm Going In" Project IGI. Great game let down by a shitty save function.

[@Zodiac3107]

The G11 is also the JSSDF main weapon in Evangelion.

[@femboycyan]

*Sees Pancor Jackhammer* Zach: *Loads shotgun with malicious intent*

[@mdyas1711]

XM290 - aka, "Whoops we made a war crime." For those not aware a part of the Geneva Conventions is no explosive bullets, grenades have a minimum size they need to be to count as a grenade. The one on this weapon did not qualify. So it was an explosive bullet, and yeah you could program it to explode above a target. You could also program it to explode IN the target.

[@vaniellys]

"looks like a reject from Stargate SG-1" I don't know how I should take this... They used real weapons like FN P90 and HK MP5.

[@Zack_Wester]

there was that weird SMG/LMG or what it was that carter had to carter around for a few episods because the P90 Blank rounds was getting hard to get because the factory making them was ordered to make real bullets for the army.

[@RideTheLightning93]

@@Zack_Wester The "Carter Special"! I fucking loved that thing, lol. And it was because P90s were getting difficult to find during the Iraq War. The Carter Special did manage to make it into seven episodes, though.

[@mrspidrexe9625]

when I found out that the G11 is a disaster gun, I was like: my disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined

[@pranavkamath6658]

Magpul just put out a video, with some short clips of the FMG-9 and a headline saying “We’re Making It”

[@TheTimelapseTraveler]

Loving this series of videos!

[@JimIBobIJones]

I think gamespot is confusing "rare" with "real".

[@grootsChannel]

clickbait title

[@MisterGunpowder257]

Generally, in this context, the weapon's existence is basically no different than a theory. We have physical examples, but the guns themselves were at best used for a brief blip in time. If a gun isn't available for military or commercial use and exists only as a handful of extant firearms that can't (or won't) be fired, then it's no different than if they only existed as a theoretical design.

[@pepperachu]

Fmg and g11 are my favorite forgotten attempts...well made video!

[@altanis1499]

I remember loving the OICW in Ghost recon: jungle storm. Never thought it was a real gun though

[@steffenknoll9136]

It was great in Ghost recon, just a too complex and heavy beast to carry around in RL.

[@thecanucklehead3034]

Is no one else blown away by the fact that the XM8 actually got adopted? I've heard for years that it was essentially a ghost gun, that only a couple prototypes were ever made and those all got dismantled. Now I'm hearing that a military force actually uses them? badass

[@dustojnikhummer]

"Reject from SG-1" Now I'm imaging Teal'c with two G11 instead of teo P90's

[@StefanStefan-uv4cc]

Indeed.

[@cronialpaler]

"Remember, switching to your pistol is always faster than unfolding an FMG."

[@MStryker40]

10:04 The Daewoo K11 is technically still being used, right?

[@Tekdruid]

I first came across the G11 in Jagged Alliance 2, where it's this unique almost-SciFi rifle with a burst mode that kind of goes _srrrppp_ and makes enemies's heads explode in gore. Accurately presented in-game as being fiendishly hard to repair or find the right ammunition for.

[@Clebardman]

I still reinstall that game every few year. Most hilarious thing I ever played, I can't get tired of the characters banter! The G11 ingame is quirky to use but reaaaally strong with the right accessories and a psychotic character :p.

[@RikkertPaulB]

I missed the PDR-C, another gun by Magpul that only exists in games and airsoft.

[@timo4463]

i kinda miss the aek i am not sure in how many games she were in but atleast in BF 3 and 4

[@arforafro5523]

The Jackhammer doesnt get too much attention nowadays compared to the other entries since the AA12 and Saiga 12 are pretty much the go-to "fully automatic drum mag shotgun" for msot videogames and even then it has to compete with the USAS-12 too. It looks really cool/futuristic but sometimes too much to feel grounded like the G11, OICW or WA2000 which still show up every now and then, guess it's popular streak ran out just like with the FMG-9.

[@sgtmarcusharris4260]

The g11 is what happens when you leave german engineers alone for to long with to much beer.

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

Then there’s Russian engineers.

[@GoldNEagle92]

So many Delta Force: Land Warrior guns! I played the heck out of that game back in the day.