5 LORE Details in the Arkham Games

[@VigorousWhale]

Dude, you should do videos about Among Us lore! Thanks!

[@GothamPaladin]

This is why I pay you

[@beb0u]

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[@User21aau]

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[@Jungleali]

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[@Darthweirdoo]

dont get it

[@kseide2]

Minor things to add: -In Clayface’s monologue referencing Lost, the camera man is heard coughing. It’s likely the Joker is the one filming Clayface. -The reason Riddler already ruled out Bruce Wayne is Batman is because Prof. Strange figured it out first, evidenced in tape recordings from Arkham City. Because Riddler sees himself as the pinnacle of human intelligence, he refuses to believe someone figured out Batman’s identity first and discounts Strange’s findings as false/inaccurate. He simply doubles down in Knight when the identity is revealed to the public.

[@vorco8120]

I agree and was about to post the same thing (for the Clayface bit). The coughing from the cameraman is clearly coming from the real joker while Clayface is pretending to be Joker. Also the Lost reference has been reported to have been Mark Hamil’s favorite tv show and because he voices Joker they added that bit in because of how it ties in somewhat with the game.

[@extonjonas6820]

But Hugo strange does not tell riddler who Batman is

[@Recon-601]

​@@extonjonas6820Riddler seemingly has access to Hugo's database with how he starts reciting his own plans and reveals his...secret costume in one of the recorded conversations between them so it's possible he found out through that

[@loganboyd6609]

Surprised you didn't mention that in the Arkham Asylum tapes he actually was very close to assuming who Batman was but instead of assuming that the technology and gadgets that he got and the money that he would have to acquire such technology could mean that he is someone like Bruce Wayne instead believes that he got the money from all the criminals and therefore he spent it on all of his equipment

[@getdamoney]

Thats dumb asf😂

[@user-nm1lx8qb3u]

​@@getdamoneyI mean, it not like we know what HAPPENS to that money either way. Hmm?🤔🤨

[@spyjack69]

I headcannon that he knew who Batman was a bit before the events of assault on Arkham he just pretends not to know so people underestimate him

[@loganboyd6609]

@@spyjack69 nah he's just an overconfident dumbass

[@jaffinator2166]

For point 3, Militia members allude to the fact Lex Luthor might have covertly funded them. So it’s possible he supplied Jason with the Nth metal for the Cloudburst tank

[@thunderousmastermind]

I’m actually shocked Batman Arkham Videos didn’t point this out. You learn something new everyday!

[@martinlucero6394]

If you read the Arkham genisis comics deathstroke is sent to kill him during the events of Arkham asylum by joker but during the final fight Jason tells death stroke he can pay him more than the joker and he lets him leave and they he steals a couple billions from Wayne

[@extonjonas6820]

​@martinlucero6394 why would Joker want or need to send an assassin to kill Jason? Why would dethstroke back out on a kill? That is bad for his reputation. And finally even someone as disgustingly rich as Bruce Wayne would notice If BILLIONS of dollars went missing. Jason also would have no possible way of stealing that money. Even if Batman for some reason shared with him the information needed to take that money. That would just confirm Jason was alive

[@MarshallAcosta]

4:53 I’m surprised it wasn’t pointed out that sick Joker is behind the camera. “They tell you what it’s all about” *few coughs*. I’ve not noticed that ever but in this video I did. I hope everyone else caught that too

[@GothamPaladin]

I saw that after I finished the video (I’m dumb for missing it) but I just figured the comments will cover that HAHA

[@MarshallAcosta]

@@GothamPaladin I figured it wouldn’t go unnoticed during the editing process. I’m happy I got closure though. You’re a good man.

[@hitcom16]

@@MarshallAcosta came here to comment same thing.....that he coughed.......that's cool detail

[@ArkhamverseJoker]

THATS SO COOLLLLLLLL OMGGGG DUDE IM GOING CRAZY RN I FINALLY FOUND A DETAIL IVE NEVER SEEN IN ARKHAM CITY THIS IS SO COOL

[@eznf98]

Also fun fact if you listen to the tapes in Arkham City, Strange tells Riddlers they are equals until he realizes Riddler doesn't know who batman is

[@tezdoom]

Also with the Joker (Clayface) on the TV in the steel mill, he ends that speech by saying no matter what happens I’ll be right behind you. Which is where the real Joker was when he shot Talia. The real Joker is holding the camera during that speech too. You can tell when he zooms back in and starts coughing due to his condition.

[@javis88h]

The Riddler's denial can also stem from him not figuring it out yet and refuses having the answer told to him. He does like riddles and it's no fun when someone tells you the answer.

[@SandwitchZebra]

This also lines up with Riddler’s narcissism. He has to be the one who finds out the answer, not Scarecrow, not Strange, not anyone. He won’t believe it until he pulls off that mask himself.

[@Xanthan4711]

I always found it neat that retroactively Clayface Joker's monologue about Lost fit in to Arkham Origins. Joker gets told "what it's all about" upon encountering Batman and changing his obsession from simple anarchy and impressing his own ideology upon the populace to his obsession with Batman. "Would you be happy? Does it make sense?" refers to their bizarre relationship. And "how come it all ended in a church?" is obviously where Batman follows Joker to at the end of Origins. Again, this is RETROACTIVE. I don't want people seeing my comment and being like "that's what they actually meant!" It was definitely in reference to Lost, just neat how art works like this sometimes.

[@alexistorrero7188]

There's a dialogue from riddler where he says that he doesn't believe that Bruce Wayne is Batman, because he doesn't want to admit that all those years he has been humiliated by someone like Bruce Wayne

[@joshlopez2447]

Paul Dini worked on Lost, that's also why Joker/Clayface made that reference. But I can see why (lore-wise) Clayface would make a reference to Lost

[@ethanfutch4974]

Idk he worked on lost ?!?!?

[@joshlopez2447]

@@ethanfutch4974 he did

[@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive]

Brian K. Vaughn also wrote for Lost and Batman.

[@uncleham8984]

"We'll learn more about Batman and his-" imma stop you here chief..

[@Hugo_Tate]

lmao thats what I was gonna say. that aged like milk

[@ArkhamverseJoker]

15:52 btw for anyone looking

[@noob4head]

Honestly, it does make sense that some people might doubt that Bruce Wayne is Batman. I don't have a full-blown theory or anything, but from the perspective of the citizens of Gotham, it could just seem like another one of Scarecrow's schemes to bring down another influential figure in the city. I mean, what's stopping Scarecrow from kidnapping Bruce Wayne, dressing him up as Batman, and running with that narrative? I hope that makes some kind of sense haha

[@themadtitan8379]

5:00 you can also hear real Joker cough while Clayface is monologuing

[@Flex-GenFitness]

I really feel like Batman should’ve been able to figure out that joker was actually clayface by using his detective mode. I mean he’s the worlds greatest detective and doesn’t even question why joker doesn’t have bones or are they implying in the canon he never used his detective mode at any point while around clay joker? Strange.

[@Definitelynotafedtv]

Well he is on the verge of death for most of the game 😂

[@mht2315]

There's no reason to assume he'd use it all the time, and at that point of the night Batman was already hallucinating. If he were to use it and he saw Joker was boneless, there'd be no reason for him to blatantly assume it was Clayface, and not some form of interference, ploy from Joker or his own mind tricking him.

[@ArkhamverseJoker]

probably thought it was a glitch. couple of reasons it could’ve not shown his skeleton batman wouldn’t just instantly assume it’s clayface bc my detective mode said he had no skeleton

[@bloodhound1182]

I feel like canonically, no Batman did not use detective mode when fighting Clayface Joker

[@boopedysnoot9093]

i dont think he would purely on the fact why would he need to?

[@Deez561]

The Arkham games lore is interesting and needs to be expanded on

[@YisusJustice4ever]

11:35 I'd love to see an Arkham long Halloween, sounds awesome

[@rudranshjoshi8142]

14:17 I see what you did there with the 'Rizzler'😂

[@b4nd1t9]

3:02 love the subtitle detail you threw in there

[@elizete_]

fr lol

[@White_Knight_Real]

3:06 yo home boy i see that "Mommy Quinn" on the captions 😂

[@aidenliveandreloaded2522]

4:53 In case you don't know, that's the real Joker coughing and holding the camera.

[@Lolotrixx]

Yeah I just noticed that. Its insane they thought of a detail like that. Like wow

[@kentmansley3219]

You can actually hear Joker cough in the background when he’s doing the Lost reference.

[@pharaohbubbles1547]

The Clayface one has another interesting moment im sure most people noticed. When 'Jokers' giving his rallying call on TV in the steel mill, you hear coughing. The real Joker was recording Clayface Joker

[@shadowknight1509]

Another hint is when Talia stabs clayface disguised as joker. There is absolutely no blood at all

[@Ayyothatsbrandogaming]

What confuses me is that in Arkham city when Bats is flashing back before Talia gets shot, you can hear Harley saying the “it’s not really you, is it?” Thing to Joker meaning Batman heard that convo, MEANING he should have figured out that Joker wasn’t Joker

[@tlungu962]

the nth metal easter egg is interesting b/c JL didn’t form until after Arkham Knight. So it’s not even like Batman was allies w/Hawkman or Hawkgirl at this time.

[@yodalog202]

Tbh he probably met them before arkham knight but just didn't form the jl until after arkham knight mabey he had a mission where he saved them and they gave him the metal as a thank you gift idk I I might just be taking it too far but oh well who knows mabey it did happen its up to rocksteady

[@travismiddleton8218]

These lore videos give me so much appreciation for the Akham games. Keep them up👍

[@rickgrimes.........]

5:04 you can also hear joker coughing behind the camera lmao

[@Snoma_03]

Heard the same thing

[@sjmhadsock4586]

Funny in dc lore there's another person called gentleman jim the guy who becomes the gentleman ghost

[@dinglemccringleberry3887]

4:52 You can clearly hear the cameraman cough, shaking the camera. That's the real Joker filming, who is sick. I don't know how nobody caught that lol

[@Aaroniswompwomp]

Fr

[@brianheriot8167]

Also you can actually hear the real Joker coughing when he is filming Clayface 4:52

[@RedRanger_]

Just started listening to these videos tonight at work and I love them. Thank you for bringing me back into the Arkhamverse

[@eznf98]

Would love to see more Lore on the Arkhamverse Also what you think about the 2 different Deadshots Who do you think is the OG or maybe its just multiple deadshots?

[@GothamPaladin]

Personally, Deadshot was always a whatever character in the arkhamverse, so I don’t really mind the 2 Deadshot thing. They even address it in SSKTJL so it’s not really a “retcon” which is pretty nice, I’m guessing the SSKTJL Deadshot is the legit one

[@eznf98]

@GothamPaladin ok thanks Also is the Suicide Squad Escape from Arkham movie still Arkham canon or no?

[@GothamPaladin]

@@eznf98The general consensus is that it’s NOT canon, that’s what I believe as well. But it’s never been confirmed 🤷‍♀️

[@eznf98]

@@GothamPaladin thanks I heard it was then it wasn't Great movie though

[@rojax_thevoicetm2385]

Also if you listen closely at 4:53 you can hear the REAL Joker cough in the background of the pre-recorded video.

[@iconoclast137]

you are such a nerd, i love it! that last one about miagani island and darkseid and the riddler mentioning the miagani tribe worshipping bats blew my mind! great channel

[@blueface6069]

4:54 It's subtle but the person filming clayface joker coughed, and the camera shook, meaning it was probably the real joker.

[@Matthew_Cordle]

Apothocans giving 115 to the Hawk people is cannon.

[@moviehermit5631]

4:53 You can actually hear the real Joker coughing in the background. He’s the one holding the camera while Clayface is performing as him

[@paperanimation519]

Add for more information👍🏻 Nth metal is the metal use to open dark dimension can bring dark knight from dark multiverse included batman who laugh and the nth metal it's connected to court of owls they wanted to bring barbartos and use batman with nth metal as portal to open dark dimension.

[@bassmachine8097]

The lost reference is actually because mark hamil is a huge lost fan

[@narioreturns7603]

That’s not a bad pick up, but in Arkham asylum he does say, “welcome to the mad house Batman”

[@platinumjoseph]

3:04 Mommy Quinn is wild lmfao 4:54 If you listen closely, you can hear someone coughing in the background during the pause Clayface has. That's Joker

[@Beymaster20247]

You can also hear jokers caughing when clay face was talking

[@megatron2171]

The riddler part is kinda like lex luthor once deduced that clark kent was superman but throw that whole idea out becausr he refused to believe a being like superman would downgrade himself as a human and work as reporter

[@TannerThePuppyGamer]

and with the whole clayface joker tv thing you could hear coughing

[@yungcees3317]

I love these kinds of videos bro keep it up

[@dabey13]

4:44 you can actually hear the real joker coughing behind the camera implying he was the one recording

[@TheHammemo]

Holy shit you can hear the real joker coughing while hes recording clayface lol.

[@Arkhambatpro564]

First of all yes i want a long Halloween video its my favourite animated batman film along with Gotham by gaslight, secondly i love that reference to batman going back in time they made, thirdly great video as always, lastly i noticed the macaronis in the subtitles the macaronis in my language mean the pastas😂😂😂

[@eeremm5543]

One cool thing I noticed for the clayface thing is that after the mr freeze fight, in the safe after Harley took the cure, there are two joker cards, one being real and the other being printed on paper.

[@The_Phantasm]

You used an image of Joe Chill from the comics but he does make a physical appearance in the Arkham VR game.

[@GothamPaladin]

Not gonna lie..I forget about that game a lot haha

[@C41N4]

About the Miagani people, they were there before Batman fought Darkseid. Meaning, it doesn’t prove they fought. It’s just a reference. Doesn’t prove they didn’t, either. But there’s another powerful DC villain in Gotham: Starro. He’s in a secret room in the Batgirl DLC.

[@ElTamex07]

Darkseid’s Omega beams don’t normally kill you; they teleport you to places of pain and torture

[@nicktroisi6347]

It wouldn’t be that far fetched and I would not be surprised if Batman knew about Nth Metal through both Hawkman and Hawkgirl. They can exist in this universe and could have met Batman at some point, maybe through the Justice League Imagine if Rocksteady do a game centred around the Long Halloween/Dark Victory, it can provide an origin story for Two-Face and Dick Grayson/Robin. Also they can use the villains in that story, maybe not Grundy cause Batman only first met him in City.

[@tinguspingus7874]

my personal craziest fact is that in arkham knight whenever the joker speaks it’s bruce’s inner monologue essentially saying that in the hidden moments when you can find the joker around gotham that he thinks he should just kill robin to put him out of his misery

[@TheKwfang]

You could have also pointed out that during clayface making the lost reference you can see the camera moving as someone coughs implying joker is the one holding the camera

[@SonicMultiversalMusicOfficial]

I just noticed the subtitles when you said “But jason did” and i noticed it said “But Jason Statham Did.” and i couldnt help but chuckle.

[@Mashida_Killzzz]

Yes pls a long Halloween VID!!✨😻

[@NamlessKing2390]

I'm so proud of myself I knew it wasn't clickbait but I followed on twitter anyway

[@TEEEEV]

Would love to see an Arkham Long Halloween video! Great video btw! 😊

[@Wolf52900]

Always a good day when this guy has a new vid

[@dychrisshandonsmith1242]

Keep it up on your work and this video and channel I love this video and channel Thanks you for your video and channel I love Batman Arkham All franchise

[@The-Aaron-The]

Also on the list reference clayface says "and then they tell you what's really happening" and pauses, during which the cameraman - the real joker - coughs.

[@Lighthouse29501]

Maybe This Miagani could have different interpretation and exist without time travel but who knows it would be interesting if they had the same original events

[@Spongebrain97]

Yeah that's what Im thinking. When Riddler described the Miagani as a tribe who lived there in pre colonial times, I got the gist that the Arkham version of them was simply a Native American tribe whose name was a reference to the comics but had no connections to time travel in the game's lore

[@natemoyle1179]

On the steel mill tv you can hear him coughing in the backround

[@TheKnight-nc7qn]

0:56 the reason he doesn't believe batman is bruce is cuz in the early days of batman he suspected bruce wayne of being batman but was proved wrong so he refuses to accept it since that would invalidate his first assessment of bruce not being batman.

[@ockstar18]

When Clayface Joker is talking about the TV show, you can hear sick Joker behind the camera coughing

[@harmonjustin009]

I definitely wanna see a video of that

[@brainiac723]

Miagani island was mentioned in the Batman Cult comic series in the 1980s first with deacon black fire in it.

[@vexxspecture8025]

Riddler also says something after beating the story and after he’s hiding at the bottom of the orphanage I think he said something like your not Bruce Wayne I already ruled that out! I can’t be wrong!!!

[@theenigma2861]

I think it's more that Riddler has to be the one to solve Batman's identity so he rejects the truth because *he* didnt figure it out himself.

[@The_Phantasm]

I don't know if you've talked about it before but would you ever make a video about Doctor Phosphorus in the Arkhamverse? His real name is Dr Alex Satorius and he is the one speaking in Simon Stagg's interview tapes in Arkham Knight.

[@GothamPaladin]

I did! I believe in my disturbing videos (part 2)

[@AintNoWayDante1509]

@@GothamPaladinhey if you haven’t before, would you find it fun to make a video on Arkham villain origins that are different from their original comic origins? I feel like that would be a great video idea

[@yodalog202]

Yes it actually is a good idea​@AintNoWayDante1509

[@AintNoWayDante1509]

@@yodalog202 I find origins of characters (especially villains) very interesting

[@yodalog202]

@@AintNoWayDante1509 same tho I'd like some villains to stay mysterious like joker and death from puss in boots I don't want everyone to have an origin because sometimes they are more interesting like that

[@thefonzkiss]

Thanks for the reminder of how lame the ending of Knight was. You can’t have an Arkham game without Paul Dini writing it, such a letdown.

[@HuskerMatt7]

An Arkham long Halloween video would be so cool man. You should definitely do it.

[@Sir.X]

this is the best videogame series ever made yo the details are insane

[@SvanEsch123]

You really are fun to listen to tbh, fun narration skills

[@jacobooli]

you missed the joker coughing and giggling a subtly while recording clayface during the example you mentioned the "lost" reference.

[@gagesmith6632]

James Gunn said that all future DC products will share the same universe, games included, but that “else world” tales will exist

[@randomuser4486]

I would be interested in an "Arkham Long Halloween" video

[@Vaatacious]

One thing I noticed most people don't bring up is the way ClayJoker talks to Batman. The nickname part is one thing but theres a certain comedic air real Joker always gives in his dialog, where as Clayjoker just talks normal. Not only doesn he not Call Batman "Bats" but he doesn't make any jokes. He got the voice and tone but rarely if ever does he say anything with a hint of comedy or pun. This is also reflective in the death screens with how straight to the point Clayjoker is where real Joker still makes quips or has some levity to what he says. Maybe its obvious people got that but I never seen anyone bring it up so I don't know if its justntoo obvious to point out or if it was too subtle to notice

[@brocksmith7650]

Did you notice the cough and slight camera shake during the “Lost” reference? Joker was the one filming Clayface

[@b1ackspid3r43]

I would love to see a video about the Arkham Long Halloween

[@TheVampireAjax]

8:15 Jason Statham confirmed to be in the Arkhamverse lol Excellent video!!

[@luukderuijter1332]

Another clue about the fake joker gag, is that during the video about clayface referencing Lost, the "camera man" coughs a little. The real joker is filming the video

[@Donker_Dank]

details? lore? count me in

[@Skyx5m50]

Can never get tired of some Arkham lore. It gets so deep and kinda creepy. These are true horror games.

[@Donker_Dank]

@ho3smad505 if I could make a video game world real I'd do City. Then after that, San andreas. But still

[@angrysonicbird6779]

You missed a detail involving Clayface's Lost reference. In the same scene, you can here the real Joker coughing from behind the camera, alongside a slight camera shake to indicate Joker's the one HOLDING the camera.

[@willsherman4044]

Please do more lore on the Arkham games

[@kaneicosasrandom8630]

Another small indication that "Joker" is really Clayface may be that when Batman arrives to save Thalia, the film "The Terror" is playing, a classic film in which he participated as the main antagonist and which, in fact, is very linked to his background, because one of the reasons why he became a criminal was because he discovered that a remake of the film was going to be made but with another actor.

[@Autumn10481]

i think riddlers reasoning is somewhat valid cause all the main villains got put in that one cell and scarecrow wasnt put in there

[@Not_a_real_doctor1]

15:50 bro was excited for no reason 😭

[@Super1001Soldier]

Also, for "Clayface clues" you can hear the camera man (actually Joker) coughing in the background

[@KevinMorales-tt4mb]

Hey man I love your videos but I wanted to know who is your favorite villain in DC ?

[@GothamPaladin]

Two-Face

[@Wave_Knight]

Hi there!​@@GothamPaladin I just can't Believe the coincidence bro, I was playing the Arkham trilogy for the first time a few days ago, and I was playing city then I heard the Harley dialogue and I never heard that on KZbin until that point. Then I thought: bro, what if Gotham Paladin talks about this, and here it is! You never disappoint bro 😅 Keep up the good work ❤

[@shadowking773]

I also like how riddler boasts in front of other supervillains lol

[@randallflagg3700]

Great stuff! I only spotted one small mistake... _"Gentleman" Jim Jansen_ comes from the Batman story *Batman's Secret Enemy* , not from *The Rainbow Creature* ... You might have mixed them up because they're both by Grant Morrison (one of my favorites Batman writers), and both stories are part of *Batman: The Black Casebook* (which collects the stories you need to be familiar with if you want to truly enjoy Morrison's excellent Batman/Batman & Robin runs). A video about *The Long Halloween* would be neat, the Arkham Origins file in which Alberto calls Black Mask is one of my favorites extortion tapes. _"Time to get your affairs in order, Roman. There is a change in the air, and the wolves descend on Gotham."_ Anyway, between the awesome "Long Halloween" 2-parter movie, part of the Tomorrowverse, in which Alberto is played by Jack Quaid (Clark Kent from *My Adventures with Superman* & Wee Hughie Campbell from *The Boys* ) and "The Flash" (2023) in which Alberto Falcone is played by Luke Brandon Field, plus the upcoming show *The Penguin* is which Alberto is played by Michael Zegen... Sounds like our (potential) Holiday Boy is going to be pretty busy soon enough! I really like the classic Gotham families, which was one of the reason why I loved the show *Gotham* (season 1 was great with the whole Falcone/Maroni war, then season 4 with... ok no spoilers, just in case ^^). The Falcone vs Maroni gang was was awesome. (David Zayas was fantastic as Sal Maroni, but with Clancy Brown taking his place, I'm confident that they'll find a way to make him work... he was fantastic as Lex Luthor in the DCAU, and he kicked ass as General Wade Eiling in *The Flash* About the other characters on that list, I was super hyped when Tony Zucco showed up in the first season of the show *Titans* (I know that a lot of people love to rag on that one, but Titans & Doom Patrol, aka _the Titanverse_ were a lot of fun to me while the 8 seasons lasted). Keep up the good work! RF

[@StevieBoy215]

You missed the part where clay face makes the lost reference. If you pay attention, you can actually hear the real joker coughing in the background for a brief second.

[@seanewing204]

Something interesting is that, at the time the game came out, Deathstroke was wearing armor made of Nth metal (you pronounced it correctly). It's possible Jason got it from him.

[@Deathstroke1394]

If you actually pay attention to when clayface is talking about the tv show, you can hear the real joker coughing behind the camera as he is the one filming

[@865354hayden]

its weird because riddler was always the villain that knew batman was bruce wayne. and props to him for figuring it out without unmasking him.

[@JthRocks]

Never thought about the lost reference like that interesting twist

[@tweetysux]

If you go to the lower floors of the clock towers on a computer there is a conversation with oracle and hawkgirl i believe