5 Minute Holy Paladin Guide (PvE / Raiding / Ulduar) | WotLK Classic

[@linqwow]

A few things to note: There are times where you may NOT want to cancel Divine Sacrifice, if your raid leader is calling for it or if you know how to use it appropriately. This is typically not as common as canceling the macro but I did want to mention it. Another thing that I left out was Bubble Sac - This is using your Bubble and then Hand of Sacrifice on the tank. This can be a powerful cooldown that will help on Plasma Blast for Mimiron or Surge of Darkness on Vezax. I will likely do a similar video like this for Hunter in the near future. If you would like a 5 minute guide for ANOTHER class, please let me know!

[@Ithrial420]

I know rap classic is past but I play a private server when it comes to consumables if they don't want to use elixirs you can use the vanilla's healing flask it gives you if I remember correctly 65 intellect and it persists through death

[@bearj.4363]

I wish EVERY guide was like this. Amazing.

[@linqwow]

Thank you so much

[@cgurps15]

One small comment on the stat priority: now that we have a lot of mana (I have ~37k buffed on mine), mp5 comes after crit (e.g. you should aim at haste + crit part, instead of haste + mp5). This overall increases your throughput!

[@linqwow]

Sheeeesh 37k is crazy! What is your GS? That makes sense though! Mp5 is a pretty minor stat for us with all the other ways we have to regen mana. Thanks for the tip! Also love the Vivi profile picture, love FF9!

[@cgurps15]

@@linqwow I'm currently at 5k4 GS, but I'm the lucky paladin in my with the val'anyr so it doesn't count :p

[@zanegregory7110]

Another thing with the macros, if you use [@mouseover,help,nodead][help,nodead][@player] before your ability as opposed to just the mouseover section it will first heal your mouseover target. If you don't have a mouseover target it will heal whoever you have click targeted and if you don't have anyone targeted it will heal yourself! Really like to use this macro for all abilities when I heal so just figured I'd toss that in a comment!

[@linqwow]

Thank you for this information! I just went in-game and tested mine and it seeeeems to work almost the same way BUT it does totally heal my mouseover target instead of the target I have selected if I have my mouse on someone. I could see how this could end up with me healing the wrong person lol! I am a bit of a noob with macros so this is really great information for everyone to see. Thank you so much :)

[@zanegregory7110]

@@linqwow Yea only downside is it will prio mouseover over click, so if you do happen to have someone mouseover targeted on accident when you're trying to just heal someone click targeted it will prio the mouseover. Definitely takes a bit of getting used to!

[@lemonsquidsec]

Try /cast [mod:alt,@player][@mouseover,exists,help,nodead][] Spell. If alt is pressed, cast on self, else cast at the mouse over if it exists, is a helpful/friendly target, and is not dead, else cast normally.

[@wyvernusilluminatus7117]

Found a video in recommendations. Well done! Keep going!

[@linqwow]

Thank you so much :D

[@lares1781]

Great video, thanks. But I can't see consumables because the next video proposal covers them before you can see them.

[@linqwow]

I'll move the ending screens around, sorry about that and thanks for the heads up! Consumes for Hpally typically are going to be Guru's Elixir + Elixir of Mighty Thoughts + Haste food like Imperial Manta Steak. Flask of Frost Wyrm is fine if you aren't progging / need to save some gold. Normally using mana pots myself but for throughput you could use potions of speed but I find I use them sparingly. Hopefully that helps!

[@thomasashwell-gg2nz]

For your macros, if you just put #showtooltip on the first line, it will always auto pick the correct icon and tooltip will be max rank

[@Sorkijan]

Yo dog, the video previews you put in cover up the consumables you say to use at the end.

[@linqwow]

My bad and thank you for this! I'm changing the end screen on that one now

[@alexbrown2529]

Is spellpower a dead stat? A lot of gear has it and I remember it being a stat in spell section but it doesn’t even show character spellpower anymore. Did they just make it scale of intellect but not remove it from gear stats?

[@linqwow]

Hey there! I think that spellpower shows up as "Bonus Damage" and "Bonus Healing" in the spell section of your character stats now. So I have spellpower on my Holy Paladin's gear but then I guess there is a formula with the spell power + intellect scaling that gives you your bonus damage or bonus healing. Not 100% sure on that to be honest but hopefully that helps a bit

[@ernestfrigelj2876]

hei....Im new to wow started to lvl paladin as retri and was wondering if it is possible to heal lower level dungeons (up to lvl40-50-60) in retri spec? This might be really stupid questions but as Im new to the game I would like to have good dps while leveling and also learn how to heal for end game when I will focus on healing

[@linqwow]

Don't worry it is NOT a stupid question, never be afraid to ask something on my channel! :D I would say it is totally possible to heal dungeons as a ret pally up to 40-50ish but you will want to make sure you're collecting some intellect and spellpower pieces as you go. The thing that could hold you back is having a small mana pool so you might run out quickly. If you keep a spellpower mace and some intellect gear I bet you'll be good to go. Now getting beyond 50+ to dungeons like Blackrock Depths, you may want to actually respec for it. I think you can get dual spec at level 60 which should alleviate the problem of having to respec. I am also answering this assuming you're playing WotLK but are you playing Classic Era possibly? Sorry for the wall of text, hope it helps!

[@ajanovicfaruk]

Wouldnt the crystal from algalon 25 be BiS trinket?

[@Ithrial420]

Yes meteorite is bis but honestly there's a lot of good trinkets Togc25 solace is another good one Personally I run Ruby sanctums GTS with rod of resurgence the eot spell power trinket. Wings and the eot trinket give you a plus 5% to healing while you have plea active

[@muskrat021]

kinda want to use flash of light, since it proc a HoT onto your SS target, that's kinda a huge part of your healing you don't spam it, but you also want that HoT uptime to be high... and you want to holy shock more than never and more than on just movement.

[@wolfraing6999]

Is pretty much useless, i just pop it for fun, but holy shock is way better.

[@BeanoGaming]

A bit late to the show but i am trying to heal with hpal. At lvl 80 what holy light are you using i feel like im oom after like 10 casts. Also which bubble/spell is used for bubble sac?

[@zanegregory7110]

Yo killing it with the content lately keep it up!

[@linqwow]

Yo thank you so much for saying that and thank you for watching!!

[@borkochannel9803]

what addons u use for healing? and to see the group like that?

[@linqwow]

Using Clique a bit now to setup mouseover macros easier, but also Fojji weakaura, Bartender, DBM, Threatplates, and TacoTip. The raid frames here are actually a default setting in WoW for raid frames. You can click the arrow next to the frames and change them to raid frames, but I would also suggest moving them to the center of your screen. I've done that since this video and its helped me out a lot since I can see what I'm standing in and continue healing the group. Hope that helps :)

[@Boogra]

@@linqwow Thanks very very much for this video. The best guide with no BS.

[@JDBob3]

Why isn't anyone talking about hit rating? P4-5 bis pants are Plaguebringer's Stained Pants

[@escxeuphoria]

Amazing guide. Which addons are you using?

[@coolins]

Do you know why my bacon of light sometimes doesn't work on other people even though this skill is applied?

[@linqwow]

Sometimes this happens to me in RDF if you heal someone that is flagged for pvp it won't copy to the beacon. Something with being flagged for pvp causes issues

[@militarymoose87]

I'm just curious why the choice of Improved righteous fury is taken over toughness? I get the IRF will drop damage by 6% but doesn't it increase your threat? 4/5 toughness increases your armor by 8% and reduces the effect of movement slowing effects by 24%. I'm assuming its personal choice but just wondering why the mainstream would prefer IRF is all.

[@blakeriley761]

Personally I use 4/5 toughness and would recommend that.. I have seen hpals pull threat bc of RF on fights like yogg quite often.. I also use the seal of light glyph instead as well but I don’t have mana problems as bad as this dude did on Alg 10m.. also I think MP5 is a very viable stat for hpal and I’m taking it over crit usually since crit is built into intel and you’ll get it on most of the best pieces so MP5 enchants and gear don’t hurt

[@linqwow]

This is a really good question and I've actually asked the Hpally raid leader in Pog about this. I do agree that it is personal choice and I actually do agree with Blakeriley761 below on using 4/5 toughness. I have NEVER used righteous fury on my holy paladin simply because I am scared of pulling threat. On the flipside, main Hpally in pog uses Righteous Fury as Hpally every week and never had an issue with threat until this most recent raid. So it does seem to be personal choice but I think I would personally lean towards 4/5 toughness since I don't like the risk of using Righteous Fury. I'm sure there are many opinions on this!

[@linqwow]

The full Stat Priority for Holy Paladins is Intellect > Haste > Mp5 > Spellpower > Crit so you are correct to be taking other stats over crit. Mp5 is the 3rd prio'd stat for Hpally so you are also correct that it doesn't hurt! I did say I avoided pieces with spirit on them but Mp5 is just not something we stack crazily like Int/Haste. Definitely not a stat we have to avoid. It just isn't as important to stack and you should NEVER be gemming for Mp5 or something like that. Seal of Wisdom gives 4% mana back on melee. This + Divine Plea just makes Mp5 a less important stat for us. Compared to when I play my resto shaman and I have to stop casting and actually let the Mp5 fill my mana bar back up. Seal of light, on the other hand, is much worse than seal of wisdom, especially if you are doing 8k HPS on Algalon and need your mana back. Even as an Hpally with seal of wisdom on, you are likely to need an innervate on Algalon if you're blasting the heals. It is important to note that we are taking seal of wisdom for the mana back on melee swings, not for the glyph of seal of wisdom's 5% mana reduction. I suppose it is arguable that you COULD switch over to seal of wisdom when you needed mana and start meleeing, then switch back to seal of light when you were good on mana, if you had the globals available. But I'm not convinced that the 5% extra heal from Glyph of Seal of Light is worth it. If you have logs of Algy 25m or 10m kills where you used Seal of Light, I wouldn't mind seeing them so I can see how you compared to the other healers in your group. If I could swing using Seal of Light and not melee the entire fight, it would be nice. And if I could switch to Glyph of Seal of Light for bonus healing then that would be nice too, I just don't think its viable on intense fights like Algalon. thank you for watching and for your comment! Got me thinking this morning real hard about holy pally this morning haha :)

[@keebleton7861]

I have righteous fury active the entire raid as a holy paladin and never pull threat. the 6% damage reduction, imo, is simply better overall. on practically every single fight in ulduar you'll be taking some form of magic damage. ignis, razzy, XT, iron council, algalon, hodir, thorim, freya, xt, vezax and yogg ALL have magic damaging effects. very rarely on those fights will your armor have any effect on you staying alive. 6% reduced damage on the other hand actually plays a pretty big role movement slowing effects really aren't much of a concern either. if you're worried about pulling threat on a fight like yogg as mentioned below, I just would opt to not use it in phase 3 of the fight. but I've not ever had a threat issue while using RF. results may vary depending on tank skill

[@linqwow]

@@keebleton7861 I'm typically scared to turn it on but I'll enable it for next week to see what happens! Great point that it just helps with damage overall from all sources. Might make healing myself during XT somewhat easier too. Thanks for the comment and for the info!

[@tramaca77]

Does this all apply to raiding only? what about dungeons?

[@meidayzoo7341]

you can play with the add : Clique like thats no macro ;) juste click and heal

[@linqwow]

I definitely should have tried that addon out sooner! Would have saved me a lot of the trouble of making these macros haha. Thank you

[@bsaun22]

Yoo u have a prot pal video like this?

[@linqwow]

Unfortunately I currently don't, but I could definitely work with the main tank in my guild to make a guide if it would help some people in phase 4!

[@bsaun22]

@@linqwow you da man bro!

[@michaelr0703]

Great guide, thank you! I've been leveling an Hpala, but I admittedly am a bit timid in running her through dungeons since I have healed as rshaman, rdruid and hpriest in the past, and those are all very different in their mechanics to the hpala, especially with Hands, etc that the hpala has. Knowing when to use what is an interesting one to figure out!. How do you feel about using something like Healbot addon instead of all the mouseover macros? I've not really tried mouseovers, so it's a learning curve for me.

[@bfitnessjoe]

I don’t know what you have done since your post, but as a fellow 6k GS resto Druid I understand your concern with add ons and such. I am pretty quick with keybinds and macro abilities so using grid or clique is very nice for ez mode, but I am so used to the wow interface that I would literally hurt my purple parses by switching. I am also used to PvP healing so having arena macros are my bread and butter. People play differently and utilize their keyboards in their own way. My Paladin healer is no different. I do enjoy mouse over macros but what I don’t like is when things go bad and ai have to “click” on a specific targets nameplates to hit them with a BoP or another helpful ability I would have to modify another shift macro for it. I am usually at the top of the meters with over 10k healing in ICC with my style so changing it at this point would be like quitting a job to start a new one. What I am saying is if you are doing well with what you currently got keep running with it. If you are doing terrible then look into a helpful add on to get those numbers and parses up. Most of all have fun playing the game.

[@ebragz]

Great video man! Keep it up

[@linqwow]

Thank you so much! and thank you for watching :)

[@kristenrobinson7189]

Only Holy paladins with balls run the salvation glyph instead of beacon to chain with other cooldowns (+6K EHP) useful in heroic modes (Chaining with full aoe sac+full/aoe sac uptime with 50% shield wall and for reduction in global blanket damage. Focus Macros on the tank for beacon/sacred shield.

[@kristenrobinson7189]

Side note - Never cancel divine plea - and by cancelling aoe sac you are weakening the buff to your raid hence the 20% salvation glyph+50% shield wall +6% (Righteous fury DR) comes in handy here.

[@linqwow]

You are big brain on this stuff, Kristen. Never even thought of that kind of tech. Salv yourself, sac the tank, shield wall, and don't cancel Dsac. Sharing this with my guildies already. You never cancel divine plea even if you need a big heal to go off on the tank? Do you just combo some CDs with plea like wings?

[@kristenrobinson7189]

@@linqwow I invented that shizzle, I have only ever been killed once with this 96% Combo reduction - it saves you from using Divine shield on everything to get forbearance, its kinda more of a PVP thing but i use Salv on non-nerfed heroic modes. Its nice having extra cooldowns for hardmode Freya weaving on global damage.

[@linqwow]

@@kristenrobinson7189 Are you on Grobbulus by chance? I was relaying this information to my guild leader and we were both pretty impressed by this. He is an hpally too. Would you by chance have a macro for this or do you kind of do it manually? I'm not gonna lie you seem like a professional lol are you Gladiator? Seriously appreciate the tips here.

[@kristenrobinson7189]

@@linqwow Sadly Glad is closer to 3k rating because nobody is doing arena, i enjoy 5's hit 2157 as my highest rating this season because i just can't get teams easy on my realm and the Xrealm sucks but 2k+ in all brackets and solo healing in 5's with Val'nyr as spell cleave with a different group each week without playing without priest healer as dual healer since they just get one shotted in 5's. The X realm in LFG doesn't work. But my paladin is Seventhlight currently on Mograine. You can use cast sequence macro's and care because that combo i use can use like 3 difference global's to pull off so you are sometimes better with a cancelled D.sac macro if you want to time cooldowns perfectly. Melee feels fairly week in arena right now until they get deaths choice+death bringers will (23% Arp).

[@clarity2115]

beacon tank & whack-a-mole holy lights? 😂

[@linqwow]

Honestly, yes lol

[@highsty9898]

My guild's holy pala is getting out healed by the same geared druids and disc priests if not worse. And yet he tries to flex that he can solo heal normal raids when ever we try to talk about normal raiding... SMH. Gears < brains.

[@clarity2115]

@@highsty9898 disc is understandable on certain fights, but druids? oof.

[@ecalle8638]

Why is soul preserve so good?

[@linqwow]

Basically because of how it procs with the Glyph of Holy Light, it ends up being worth a TON of Mp5 for Holy Paladins. Here is the exact wording from WoWhead's Paladin guide: "Soul Preserver continues to be very powerful as a second option. As before, it's worth about 50 MP5 per target you heal (at 30 casts per minute - it goes up with more). Each heal of Glyph of Holy Light and Beacon of Light count as an extra target, so with high CPM and a stacked raid, you can still have this trinket pumping out over 400 MP5. This ensures its place as a trinket contender for Holy Paladin through the whole expansion." Hope that helps! Thanks very much for watching :)

[@leonardotriunfax9366]

Thank you!

[@pickupsticks3942]

great stuff tyvm

[@kristenrobinson7189]

Wasting Wings and divine illumination is bad - you want to plea+wings to counter some of the -50% healing down to -30% only, while you let a full plea tick off.

[@linqwow]

Got you I just asked about this on another comment of yours. Thank you for this!

[@coreym7998]

Absolutely depends on the fight. Like during Mim, I would much rather use divine plea alone between phases than combine plea with wings to make up for the healing debuff which means nothing here.

[@linqwow]

@@coreym7998 Yeah, there are definitely things left out in this video just because its a 5 minute guide. It is definitely situational, like I use Divine Plea during big bang when I'm running into portals.

[@kristenrobinson7189]

@@coreym7998 Sure - i like to have RF on and melee the little mobs running around in later phases also.

[@freddiev9932]

add ons? WAs?

[@CVSoprano]

Spell Activation Overlay PallyPower Tems Ulduar Pack (WA) Sure there are more beyond that - is the three I use.

[@linqwow]

I definitely should have included these somewhere, my bad! I definitely do use the 3 CVSoprano listed below too, but here is the full list: Auctionator Bartender4 Bagnon Deadly Boss Mods Details! Damage Meter Guild Achievements PallyPower Spell Activation Overlay Spellrank TacoTip ThreatPlates (Prob not necessary for healer) Twitch Emotes v2 WeakAuras (Tems only on my Hpaladin). Thank you both for watching :)

[@lcusio]

Healbot is not used anymore? I can see a few videos just using this mouse over healing on raid frames

[@linqwow]

@@lcusio I think Healbot is still used by some folks but heal over macros do seem to be what many people are using. I have had a few suggestions to at least move my raid frames to the middle of my screen though!

[@lcusio]

@linqwow Oh i see, i haven't healed since years ago! Healbot was the thing way back haha, i like this better though, cleaner UI. I did see a nice UI i wanted to copy from a video by MetaGoblin about holypala guide with the raid frames u are deacribing located below.

[@JordanBeck3216]

Why don’t you have val'anyr

[@linqwow]

This video was before I had Valanyr; mine took forever to craft but I've got it now

[@JordanBeck3216]

Oh ok

[@manofdoom4321]

Hey I'm in that video. I made it mom

[@linqwow]

Gigachad Axiom Pog - You'll be in the 0light video after tonight too :D

[@mgamesmgames8661]

Crit over Mp3

[@ethanking2242]

I miss wrath H pal

[@linqwow]

Me too, honestly

[@ElemorOG]

I love how you troll melees by standing in the middle, not too far from the boss. CASTERS, NEVER DO THAT!

[@ElemorOG]

and you forgot to pop divine plea before the big bang. MonkaS

[@ElemorOG]

also, not standing with melees to regen mana at the beginning.

[@kristenrobinson7189]

Talking BS about not having MP5....its one of the strongest passive regen stats in the game in later tiers, its almost impossible to avoid it with Ulduar gearing, since 80% of gear probably has it, Its about sustain with all forms of mana regen you have including INT%+mp5+crit mana return which was nerfed to only 20% of the mana returned but its good when you combine it with other sources of mana return and Plea+melee swing and it all adds up .Not using Flash to weave a hot on the sacred with an instant proc is a big mistake and you are making it. Since the sacred shield hot works on any other paladins sacred shield and it scales with haste.

[@linqwow]

Hi there! Well you taught me something today lol I had to go back and read through my talents because I was sure there was no HoT from flash of light but yup, there it is on Infusion of Light talent. When do you weave in the HoT normally? When you are reapplying the Sacred Shield to your target? I really appreciate your comment, thank you for letting me know this

[@coreym7998]

Wrong. You want intellect>haste>crit>mp5. I have almost no mp5 and I never go oom even on Alg. Plus crit gives mana back which over time equals more than mp5 on an item.

[@paladrous]

Tank should be focus /targetfocus /cast [@targetoftarget] Judgement of Light /cast Judgement of Light (this will cast even if no focus)

[@bernard3303]

Is soul preserver still a good pala trinket in icc? Or does it get replaced