5 Months Clean from Kratom - A Testimonial

[@hyperionsolomon]

That's called Anhedonia. My Grandmother was very narcissistic and this abuse has it made it very hard to come back into my mind and body, to know how I'm feeling, to have words. It filled my hole too, and it made me productive, and helped me by giving me the energy to work on myself constantly, daily, for a decade. I don't feel addicted at all, more like dependant and that's okay. How is the lack of feelings and motivation *NOW*, brother? Thank you for sharing your story, I appreciate it. I'll be sure to learn and pass the tools on.

[@loveistheanswer5924]

I also don't have feelings on it and I am EXTREMELY lethargic and exhausted on kratom! I basically sleep through my whole life and NEVER have energy! 🥴😞😪 Also nothing makes fun anymore besides sleeping! I don't go skating anymore I don't do anything anymore! Not even eating makes fun. I eat very little and I lost a lot of weight so I am way to skinny. 😢😪

[@pigeonsil240sx]

the best way to not get anhedonia is to taper off the opiod/kratom. I kicked methadone 3x fist tme was 10mg after a few years of use and got anhedonia,second time i was on around 4 years and 20mg and quit and got it was way worse,this time i was on it 14 years and a peak of 188mg, I tapered down to 5mg and leaped off and got no anhedonia.im at day 92 since last opiate

[@davidrobertson5894]

I was on Kratom for 5 years. I’m 23 and went to detox for alcohol 48 days ago. It was actually a blessing because that same day I also stopped taking Kratom. I had tried many times to stop taking it, but I just couldn’t get through the withdrawals. I’m very fortunate that the detox process made my symptoms much more mild. Without that I would probably still be taking it. (Same with alcohol) I feel so bad for what I’ve done to my body. I’m putting an end to it now and moving forward. 48 days clean from everything. I also wanna add HOLY SHIT the amount of money I’ve spent on kratom in 5 years.

[@indiopeltier9758]

I definitely have spent a bit of money on it but less than if I still drank alcohol.I spend a bit on weed too but I live in Oregon so that stuff is cheap lol

[@strummercash5601]

@David Robinson Congratulations! I hope you don’t beat yourself up too badly over what you’ve done to your body. A little shame helps keep us on track, but too much can become its own self-abusive cycle. You’re 23 years old, are making great choices now regardless of your past, and you have all the time and potential you need! Sending you additional strength, peace, and happiness from Minnesota. May 2023 be your best New Year yet. Bravo! Stay with it. You deserve this forward movement!

[@davidrobertson5894]

@@strummercash5601 much love to you!!!

[@busybee2033]

I'm just starting kratom to see if it can help me come off of a mild drug addiction....I can't stand cbd or weed

[@ricknowak4582]

6 capsules A-day and you have to taper off that? Give me a break dude!Six castles are nothing! You actually felt something on six caps or less?

[@PeaceLoveCactus]

Thank you for sharing your story. My son is now on kratom after abusing opiates and Xanax for many terrifying years. I don't like nor am I comfortable with him going from the pills to leaning and depending on another substance. He's like a dumbed down zombie very depressed. He's not my child that I knew he doesn't use any of his many talents. It breaks me that hes losing year after year of his precious life. I'm going to share your video with him. If I could ask for prayers for my son I would be beyond grateful. You will be in my prayers so stay strong on your journey back your children need they're daddy. Peace be with.

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

Well I think Kratom can be good for someone like your son's situation but he's obviously abusing it as well. If he's that messed up, he's probably taking the high potency extract shots. Those are also really expensive. He needs to stop abusing the K and use it responsibly to ween off the other drugs!

[@robertworton2394]

If the kratom is keeping him off Xanax and pain pills it’s a good thing. I know it’s another addiction, I personally have been where your son is, definitely the lesser of two evils. Xans and most likely pressed pillls is so dangerous. Very difficult to overdose on kratom. But it’s definitely not without its own side effects

[@tomtroy3792]

I hope you let your son know how much you love him and show him how much you love him that means so much to him he needs love and understanding the last thing he needs is criticism and dislike I pray for him and you that you have a happy and peaceful life in Jesus name amen

[@daweener1]

Very honest story. I am currently on day 5 of quitting. This helped to hear. Hang in there. I have anxiety that is INTENSE but determined to NOT go back.

[@imjustlucas-hf4xf]

5 days here as well we got this 💪 Heating pad has been helping me tremendously.

[@daweener1]

@@imjustlucas-hf4xf Thanks for the advice. We'll make it brother! It's the depressed state that is the worst. For me at least. How much did you take?

[@imjustlucas-hf4xf]

@@daweener1 20gpd i tapered to 6gpd then relapsed up to 28gpd so i been going cold turkey. I have a lot of potential for success in my life and this crap is draining me of everything. It gives you a bad mental attitude imo and robs you of so much time. I have degenerative disc disease so i have a reason for taking it but it's the same as any painkiller. It robs you of you eventually even if it does kill the pain it messes with you mentally. I wish you strength to overcome and i hope my wishes return. We got to quit, fuck this life. I don't want to be the guy taking double dose 40$ opms shots just to take a shower in the morning. I can't. I need my time to mean something more.

[@mikehunt4797]

Take mega doses of Vitamin C look it up you will barely feel the withdrawals buddy!

[@ivanaveliskova3201]

Hello, how are you now?

[@DragonXDM]

Turning 30 this year, spent the entire year as a rampant alcoholic, and used kratom to help get me sober. I’m glad I came across these kinds of videos before I got in too deep and unaware of the terrible side effects. Was using for about 3 months and stopping now hoping it isn’t too too bad. Can say that it at least probably saved my life since I was downing a fifth of vodka a day for years. Here’s to being clean from everything.

[@DragonXDM]

Decade as an alcoholic, not a year. If only haha.

[@junaidmoody8342]

What are those terrible side effects of taking Kratom

[@Bammo-f4l]

I need to fucking quite Kratom it’s a trap and I see it more than ever now

[@kratomfree]

You are so brave to put this out there. I'm happy for you that you got out of it and learned too!

[@plathrop7737]

Thank you for your honesty. Depressive type here too, researching kratom. Testimonials like yours are very much appreciated. Sucks to want to escape your own skin all the time.

[@loveistheanswer5924]

Are you still on kratom my friend? How much do you take? 🙂 I am also very addicted to Kratom and I am also depressed. 😪

[@quaaludecowboy692]

Dopamine without effort is terrible for you. I'm in the same boat brother

[@ryannorman8898]

Such a simple sentence. Someone who doesn’t understand exactly what you mean most likely has no idea exactly how heavy that sentence is. That is the single most important thing anyone can know in this day and age.

[@AR-do2ob]

@@ryannorman8898 exactly

[@djkillachris]

Great! Been trying to help people with this. All reward all the time and no one wants to earn it. We're seeing the effects of this on ticc tocc, woke culture, tent cities, the allowance of laws that restrict freedom and the lack of personal creativity and finding your own skill sets and how to contribute to society. The sentance you posted is beautifully simple and will help me in my quest to help others.

[@godrulztheearth]

agreed. getting out and walking or working out is the way to get dopamine and then we feel good about ourselves instead of drugging our way into getting that dopamine fix.

[@LIFESSHORTTAKEARISK]

So what about coffee lol

[@letitbe4066]

Thank you for sharing your story! You are a true inspiration to others who are on this same journey as yourself! I lost my son to Mitragynine toxicity. He was using Kratom for energy. Stay strong and always believe in yourself. You have come this far and you will continue to become the person you once where before Kratom. I would love an update as you continue on your journey. ❤️

[@reefk8876]

Sorry about your loss. Wow that’s really messed up

[@_blew_a_fuse_7372]

Powder or raw leaf it's laced with heavy metal here in the US CUZ THERE THAT CORRUPT

[@quaaludecowboy692]

Good stuff. Don't cave to that "one more". I did and it's 4 years later

[@kurtniznik8116]

I've been using it since 2014. For me, pretty easy to go on and off as long as I plan and execute a long taper. Otherwise I don't find it harmful, and for my chronic pain issues it can be a lifesaver. If the choice is being hooked on K vs. prescription painkillers I'll take the kratom. Good that people speak up about how it can be harmful for some people. Everyone has their own sensitivities and needs, never believe any simple narrative about something like this, it's always complicated and individual.

[@rossgirdeen3247]

I've been taking kratom pretty heavily sense 2015 I've cut clean for a few days here

[@jamescarrington5521]

ABSOLUTELY! I just don't know why I've never needed to taper, but I guess that's a good thing.

[@kimby4404]

Lifesaver. Use responsibly

[@brents4225]

How do you taper? Im going from 30g a day to 20g this week. So far im on day 4. Next week im gonna try 15g. Do you think thats a good way to get off?

[@kurtniznik8116]

I advise tapering slower than you think you can handle. Remember, the active compounds stay in your system for days, so you can cut your dose in half tomorrow and feel mostly fine but in a few days you'll be feeling horrible if you continue to cut at that rate. Step it down by 10-30% per week, feel out your sensitivity to withdrawal symptoms, and don't assume everything is fine because you've gone two days and feel fine, give it time for the levels in your body to come into line with what you're ingesting.@@brents4225

[@secondcitysurvival8404]

Hey Dan. Great story. Everybody’s story is different! Some things work for people and some dont. Good for you really! Kratom just makes me feel alive and no nerve pain. I don’t hide it from anyone. I was prescribed benzos for 9 years and when I realized I was drinking to increase the feeling I knew I had to quit. I was going to lose my family and friends. Doctors kept pushing other alternatives that were still benzodiazepines. Since kratom I don’t take anything else and I don’t want to drink at all. God bless.

[@johnpick8336]

AMEN

[@TheresanewAuditorintown]

If you watch any of these testimonies on the horror stories of cradom they are all abusing it they're basically drug addicts looking for a high and using it for not the right purpose if you take it at the recommended dosage and don't abuse it it'll work fine But like any supplement or medicinal if you take it in excess I need to take more and more you're gonna have a serious problems. The people doing these videos are basically drug addicts looking for a high and not looking for a little pain relief

[@eriknenortas5757]

@@TheresanewAuditorintown…. Totally agree!!!!

[@ShannonDoherty-yx9wm]

I don't believe that everyone making these videos are drug addicts! My nurse practitioner and I spoke and she said, "no one woke up in the morning (or whenever they woke up) and said, "I would like to ask my life up this morning or this day"! There are many reasons and situations that occurred in many of these people's lives and please do not judge what choice they made that led to an addiction or a physical dependence! My nurse practitioner and I discussed that people without any disposition or genetic reason to become addicted to opiates or opioid derivatives since the physical symptoms are so awful, that this can happen to anyone I know a wonderful pharmacist that is stabilized on prescribed Suboxone and ADHD medication that has changed everything for this pharmacist and now is stabilized!

[@theinfamous9013]

Brother you have no idea how much this has helped me cope

[@digineet8421]

I’ve been taking for 3-4 years now and am up to 30-40 grams a day. Withdrawals for me are unbearable. I naturally get restless legs and now when I start withdrawing the extreme restlessness is all the way up my chest. Hot water helps. But holy hell the depression I get is like my soul is dead. Last time I made it 5 days and even though I physically felt okay by then, the depression was unspeakably horrible. I’m incredibly inclined towards depression and anxiety. When I was 9 I was put on prozac. I have NEVER felt any depression half as bad as I get in withdrawals and I’ve been addicted to other drugs. Even a few hours after dosing I start collapsing mentally. I’m so sick of this shit. I feel like I’m gonna puke all day. For a while I was even addicted to alcohol and this and I got over that cause a single beer makes me puke now. Also I know alcohol just made me dramatic and didn’t help with the emotional extremes. I’m just trying to get through each day but I’m losing it. I’m also a musician. I have been obsessed with guitar, many other instruments, composing, electronic production, recording, writing lyrics, etc since I was like 12. I literally don’t remember the last time I listened to a song. I never finish anything I start cause I’m just not feeling it. The only thing that makes me feel comfortable and alive is kratom. I’m trying to taper but I know it will take so long it feels like I’ll never be free.

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

I'm really sorry that you're dealing with such misery and I can totally relate. Yes, the depression is awful and matters are made worse by negativity within our environment. You said you were on Prozac as a kid? Are you still on it now?

[@bens8013]

Try taking magnesium supplements. it can reduce the muscle pain in the legs and lower back.

[@deeboi623]

Message me man for real I’m in the same boat ! I would be willing to team up to beat this monster addiction We can taper at the same time same way and do whatever it takes to come out on top! I’m serious

[@mariocooldude9092]

What's kratom bro ?? Is it illegal??

[@TheresanewAuditorintown]

​@@Dan_is_a_liar I'm watching these testimonies and horror stories of cratem and they're all about seriously abusing the substance you take too much of anything and you're going to ruin your health and your body and your mind if you take it as directed But you took it to abuse it and then kept taking more and more if you take it as recommindeed it works fine you abuse any substance it's going to ruin your body and your health and your mind

[@darknessgray]

Ending a 2 year stint myself. About 8-16g a day. Like you, not a whole lot in comparison to some other people's intake, but it was enough to notice a sizeable difference in every day life. Only approaching day 2 of a taper and its not been easy. I'm a recovering opiate addict addict, having picked up on kratom to ease out of THAT addiction, but I'll be frank, the withdrawals aren't that much different. Similar body aches, anxiety, depression, malaise. But the guilt i don't have to wake up to anymore, knowing my relationships will improve, that makes it worth it. Worth the fight of breaking the chains of addiction. Thank you for posting your story.

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

Hang in there. Prayer, diet, and excessive. It's going to get harder, much harder. But you can do this. I'm two years from now you won't even think about the shit any longer.

[@fdocument2889]

Whoever you are good luck!

[@ryankittle3431]

Takes next level discipline to take Kratom only once or twice a week. Wouldn’t chance taking it.

[@zombiedearth]

It was great to hear a similar story in life. I took kratom for 4 years and quit cold turkey 2 months ago and yes I'm fighting major depression which seems to be getting better and I agree that it will probably take a year for the mind to reset fully.

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

Better to be depressed and clean than using

[@AR-do2ob]

​​@@Dan_is_a_liarwell....we dont know. Depends on your life situation

[@itwasntme1876]

i’ve been a big dose daily kratom user for almost 8 years. I’m terrified to stop. I’ve been using 30+ grams a day for at least 5 years. I know i’m going to be sick

[@depecheddurand]

vitamin C, nac and magnesium helps this is what i`m gonna do.

[@robbyjacks667]

I'm going through that hard realization of the true grip kratom had over me. When we are in that sedated fog of daily use we think we are good and that's the people you see online spewimg how easy to get off of kratom. That's cause they are on kratom while typing You don't realize the true grip until you stop

[@wadeparker8695]

Exercise Exercise Exercise :) We can do it! We’re Stronger than we Think! One Love Guys ❤

[@cubensis845]

Dude thanks for sharing your story. Not an addict but I have tried it because a family member of mine used 25-30g’s per serving. I tried it and was pretty disgusted by the taste of the powder and have only done it once more since. Luckily I didn’t notice any bodily sensations or positive effects when I consumed it so I didn’t continue. This intrigued me and I really wish you all the best in overcoming this issue with Kratom. It shouldn’t be legally sold at a convenient store.

[@Matt_Hew]

It shouldn't be legally sold? Wtf... so let's ban alcohol a cigarettes too? Or maybe even weed cause all of those things are much much more addictive and harmful that kratom lol.

[@cubensis845]

@@Matt_Hew only a fucking idiot would say that. Kratom is easily 100x more addictive than weed, no long term health benefits, and it literally an opioid- one of the most addictive substance types of all time.

[@cubensis845]

@@Matt_Hew sure, I don’t give a fuck if we ban cigarettes or alcohol. Same shit needs to happen there tbh

[@cubensis845]

@@Matt_Hew you should do some research before you say some stupid shit

[@temporaryscars]

I gave up Kratom too. No issues though, probably because I was just taking it for fun once every three to five days. I do miss it, but so many horror stories of addiction scared me off.

[@OoSwIItchyOo]

One of the smart ones... good job 👍

[@mikegolden3131]

Wow I’ve been on kratom for 6 years. I don’t see a problem because it doesn’t put a dent in my bank account and it helps me a ton since I used to sniff dope daily. I’ll probably be on kratom for a while because it really has gave me a quality of life. I guess one day I’ll stop but not anytime soon

[@jtalamo8794]

NAD supplements may help. The patches, shots or IV can help you get back to normal. It’s well know for addiction support. Look into it. God bless you.

[@jameshudson7053]

Well said brother. Keep up the good work and good luck!

[@robinworkman3621]

I was using 30 plus grams a day I would just toss the powder and wash it down with water. After year and a half two years I quit cold turkey it was by far the most miserable thing I've ever gone through. Like an idiot and started taking the stuff again I'm using pill form now. I was consistently around 10 to 15 g a day and then I started drinking these little 2 oz bottles of cava kratom and rosemary. I noticed when I would drink those I would use less kratom in the pill form. So I got to drinking four maybe five of those a day. Yesterday I decided I need to start tapering off this crap. So I only drink one bottle of the tincture and 3 g of the pills before bed. It was pretty miserable that's why I took the three grams in the hopes that I would get some sleep. Today again I've had one bottle and no pills. I don't feel 100%, I'm sluggish have a headache. Really wanting to be off it but I cannot do the cold turkey thing the last time I did the cold turkey I had to call into work a couple days cuz I just couldn't function.

[@Zach-ls1if]

Thank you for the candid video. Yes we know what you are talking about, and I’ve been there too. Give your body some time to let your dopamine receptors reset. I’m a guitarist too, and I’m worried about losing musical inspiration as I quit kratom

[@tomtroy3792]

Seems like a nice morning where you're at that morning when you took this video I like the sound of that plane in the background it seems nice and peaceful where you were at I would like to have been there with a cup of coffee

[@robinworkman3621]

Don't do it man! I quit before. I was taking it for neck pain back pain. And I was hurting one day and I thought man I'm going to take a couple kratom it just started all over again

[@georgerabinovich]

Thanks for making this video. I bought some today and wanted to do some more research before taking it. This shit does not look like it’s worth it.

[@marnieclifford8604]

I'm trying to get off it. Been taking it for 2 and a half years, daily. 2 teaspoons evey 5 to 8 hrs. Don't want the chains anymore, the withdrawal scares me, hopefully I'll taper with stem and vein and it goes well. Not looking forward to the body aches and sweats for weeks. I went to detox for phentynal, so I have an idea what to look forward to.😔

[@ajbucks]

I just went through it about 6 weeks ago. I was taking about 25g-40g per day and stopped cold turkey. My advice is quit when you can take a week off work otherwise getting through that first week while having to go to work will be beyond brutal. I’d say I was functioning pretty well after 2 weeks but still felt a bit off and unmotivated. After 3-4 weeks, I felt pretty much back to my normal self. I also used black seed oil and magnesium which helped. Cheers

[@marnieclifford8604]

@@ajbucks thanks, I should do it right after Christmas, I'm laid off for the winter, I just have to spend time with the family, then do it.

[@ajbucks]

@@marnieclifford8604 .. just play sick for 5-7 days and stay in bed lol.. that’s exactly what I did and it worked. I really didn’t want to communicate with anyone that first 5-7 days so I mostly just stayed in bed and watched a lot of videos on getting off Kratom. I live alone so it was easy to pull off. The experience overall wasn’t pleasant but it’s very doable without rehab. If you quit Fentanyl, this should be a lot easier.. I don’t know for sure but just a good guess based on what I’ve heard.

[@marnieclifford8604]

@@ajbucks I hear you, single live alone, hopefully it won't be as bad. You'd think I learned my lesson. But in all honesty, I didn't realize at the time getting off the stuff was so brutal. Thanks for the input, I don't have much for support, just this place. My dad knows I take it, but doesn't know how bad it actually is.

[@ajbucks]

@@marnieclifford8604 …. Not one person close to me knew I was taking (abusing) Kratom. I don’t think anyone close to me even knows what Kratom is. The fact that Kratom is legal and you can just buy as much as you want at any smoke shop makes getting addicted to Kratom very easy. And many people including me tried to convince myself that since it’s legal , using Kratom wasn’t as bad as abusing other opiates. But we know that the addiction is really the same shit. Stay strong and feel free to update here and I’ll try to be here for support. Sometimes it’s helpful to communicate with others that went through it and understands the journey of getting sober. Cheers

[@TheDanjoy45]

A very realistic account of fortitude. Man can I relate to those guilt feelings. I say stop, say a sincere prayer. Because those better angels sing kind of low

[@__Henry__]

Suggestion: Seems you typically take short inhales and hold your breath, not exhaling much. Whether or not you indeed do this (which can be hard to tell for oneself if such a habit is all one is used to), constantly staying at the top of one's breath (nearly fully inhaled) can feel stressful. Try FULLY exhaling. See how far you can push the exhale. Is there room to continue exhaling in your upper chest? What about your lower chest? People have five lung lobes. Be careful trying, but see what you can do. Full exhales are typically half the speed of full inhales, and such full breathing can include a hold at the 'top' of the inhale that's three times the duration of the inhale: inhale, hold, exhale; 1part, 3parts, 2parts. Know that not fully exhaling, just keeping 'stale' air in one's lungs minimizes one's state of mind (decreasing 'thought bandwidth'), making one anxious and hyped up. Continually taking more full breaths relaxes and vitalizes. Again, if anyone is trying what I suggest to op, BE CAREFUL. Ease up and return to more normal breathing if you're feeling light headed and cannot shortly/quickly find a balance among inhaling, holding, and exhaling to not be light headed. Holding breath by the way of not fully exhaling, can help maintain depressive thinking.

[@gardevoirdude7493]

and where did you learn that? your lungs need a fair amount of air within them at all times or else they will collapse... that air would be "stale" no?

[@__Henry__]

​@@gardevoirdude7493 This is a moderately long response. tl;dr at bottom. Glad you're asking. You may be able to tell from my informal descriptive language that I'm not delivering this information mainly from a place of technical, scientific knowledge; I'm not. (There is a little bit of scientific knowledge that went into what I wrote.) I learned this mainly from my own personal yoga practice (which is another reason you should be skeptical of what I write). Extension: Total Yoga by Tara Fraser is where I learned the 1part inhale, 3parts hold, 2parts exhale strategy for breath extension/fullness. Caution: Safety first for yoga in general because yoga practice is not without risk: one can find this in many places of teaching. Total Yoga also includes this warning for different contexts of practice. Respiratorily "stale" air: I expect one can find also this in many places of practice. In Total Yoga, chapter The Vital Breath, section The Effects of Pranayama, info box Pranayama and the Respiratory System: "Through pranayama we breathe using the diaphragm fully; the upper and lower lungs are completely filled with air and stale air is fully exhaled." My own regular practicing for about two years of this breath fullness/extension, with related, serious scientific and yogic interests, has shown me (I, myself) how one's mood can change quite quickly and dramatically by breathing more fully from an initial state of restricted breath, which is typically habitual for many of us (as reported in Anatomy Trains by Thomas Myers, a manual and movement therapy textbook.) Somewhat technical territory: Your understanding of the lungs' continuous reliance on atmospheric pressure to operate accords with mine. Our understandings of staleness disaccord at air movement. Without pushing out the air we use to respire (so that we can inhale new air), the constituents (carbon dioxide concentration being one mediating factor) of the air in our lungs remains in a state of aftereffect of the respiratory process (one factor being having a post-respiration higher level of carbon dioxide). Releasing that post-respiration air to intake new air with a comparatively lower concentration of carbon dioxide gives the respiratory process (which is a chemical and mechanical process) a reactant environment more appropriate for both delivering oxygen to your body's cells and having your cells then take up that oxygen. Not exhaling pauses that processes. Not fully exhaling reduces the efficiency of that process. Not all air is the same. Respiration affects air constitution. Fully exhaling rids the body of products-state air to make lung space for reactants-state air. If exhaling isn't necessary for respiration, one might be able to argue that there would be no need at all to 'breathe,' that with one full inhale one could then clamp one's nose shut, never open their mouth, and respire forever. But hold one's breath and come to see that such is not the case. This sense of urgency, at least the initial sense, from holding one's breath majorly comes from a buildup of carbon dioxide. We are very sensitive (all(?) organisms are) to carbon dioxide concentrations in our bodies. Feeling anxious AND not breathing fully? Makes sense to me within this view I write above. Wherever I learned this I am glad you are skeptical, and I encourage also others to scrutinize the meaning represented in my writing. Again, be careful trying this, people. Breath control is NOT WITHOUT RISK. Still, one can practice on their own safely with carefulness. I recommend both Total Yoga and Anatomy Trains for those who feel interest in these topics. TY is an easy-use book, but AT is technical text for, but not solely, practicing manual therapists (one which I am not). tl;dr: Read slowly and multiple times if this is dense: Post-respiration air is not the same as pre-respiration air. Lack of exhalation stops up the respiratory process. One's body requires enough pre-respiration air to respire as a chemical process requires enough reactants to be undergone. Reducing capacity for refreshing pre-respiration air by restricting exhalation reduces respiratory efficiency and capacity (Le Chatelier's principle, anyone?), which is one of many paths to anxiety and, chronically, depression. Breathe fully and feel better than if you were to breath in restriction.

[@gardevoirdude7493]

@@__Henry__ fair enough lol. thanks for the explanation

[@__Henry__]

@@gardevoirdude7493 Pleased to explain technical things (especially when others can read this and learn something) so, again, thanks for asking.

[@rei_starxx]

Going cold turkey gives something more control over you. Knowing how to meditate and not allow yourself to fall down the addiction hole and use when your bored. It’s an antidepressant and an stimulant. Use it as such where needed. Not when wanted.

[@kelpking4484]

I've been doing it for 6 years almost I was once doing 50 plus grams per day right now I'm quitting a 18 grams per day habit I only took like 5 grams today and I still have withdrawals and it sucks I started taking it cause I used to do alot of drugs and i was just chasing a high I had a seizure and almost died from xanax withdrawal and this kratom withdrawal is almost as painful as i was feeling before i had a seizure from xanax I was taking 10 to 15 mgs per day and tried to cold turkey I started taking kratom cause it is easy to rationalize and still be able to get high off something but I'm done I want my life back with no distractions

[@tdunn779]

You will def become addicted again if your brain gets the taste again, quit for a year if a year 5 years ago and asked my ex wife if I could try it again and she said yeah but she would control it and that lasted a few days before I was searching the house for where she had hid it. So being 5 months clean bro def don’t turn back that’s amazing

[@gagelink2457]

Thank you for sharing.. I needed to hear this

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

Glad it was helpful!

[@chrisg.3977]

I hear mega does of vitamin c can help

[@tomtroy3792]

Kratom makes me remember what it was like when I was on heroin I would snort heroin after I mixed it with water I would spray it up my nostril using a nasal spray bottle have to constantly take it throughout the day to stay well wake up sick every morning no motivation whatsoever when I'm not taking it the withdrawals are not near as unbearable as heroin or methadone but they are still plenty miserable and I can get nothing done and I need money I can't buy food without money and now I running out of water some places want $3 a gallon for water

[@andrewhawkins8616]

I've been wanting to get off of this garbage for years. I've been stuck on this garbage since 2016, and taking huge amounts recently, because I'm stuck in a VERY depressing situation. I quit once or twice....then stupidly relapsed. I'm also addicted to alcohol. I started taking it again, saying it was for the pain in my jaw because my teeth are jacked up, but wow, was that just so stupid. Thanks for sharing this.

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

I understand what you're going through and at present, I'm sure it seems like an insurmountable task, but I can tell you from experience that looking back it's not as hard as we think it is. You can do this, just take it one day at a time

[@andrewhawkins8616]

@@Dan_is_a_liar Thanks, Dan. As a by and by, has the wet blanket of apathy started to lift yet? It's been.... about a year and some change, right?

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

@@andrewhawkins8616 yes, but you have to ask yourself. Is that a wet blanket of apathy or is that just reality? The thing is you've masked and numbed your emotions for so long that this is now a reality, but it is not the true reality.

[@andrewhawkins8616]

@@Dan_is_a_liar ....Uh, okay? I meant for you. I was asking if you'd adapted yet, in the dopamine department. I wasn't trying to sound like a jerk, or something. Idk. Text removes inflection.

[@homelessman3483]

Do you feel any better after a year and a half?? Its been 6 months and idk if ill ever feel normal again.

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

I feel better than ever

[@beewitts]

Thanks for sharing Dan

[@joemug4079]

Glad you’re ok. I have found that finding projects that give me a sense of accomplishment keeps me safe. That sense of accomplishment is also a dopamine satisfier.

[@michaeljones6471]

Thank you brother. Glad you are off. I just had a heart attack that I think was a contributor…but not without taking a responsibility of over using. But this stuff can be nightmarish man.

[@oliviercourtens5540]

Could it be that your quitting kratom also happens to coincide with / exasterbate and therefore subjectively mark the start of what seems to be a clinical depression? Maybe you should reach out to a mental health professional and see if there's things that you could work through. You mentioned a lot of positive stuff happening in your life - sometimes a positive yet drastic change sets you back initially, maybe you need some time to solidify your new direction and to re-anchor yourself. Anyways, thanks a lot for the video, I wish you the best

[@robertbendik1364]

Iv had almost no withdrawals from kratom for me tramadol.was 10fold worse or 100times

[@sarahelizabeth778]

Did you go through any physical withdrawals? How are you feeling today? I hope you’re feeling much better! God bless.

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

So the physical withdrawals were basically immaterial compared to the mental withdrawals I experienced. 4 years ago I quit nicotine and those were basically all physical withdrawals. It was a walk in the park compared to quitting kratom. Presently doing much better in everyway but I can't take 100% credit for how well I'm doing. A few months ago I had some pretty traumatic things occur in my life so I found some medication that might help and it's made a world of difference. So, to answer your question, I am doing very well right now, but it's not without the help of a certain medication. Also, I am still Kratom free and I know that I'll never go back to that crap! ✌️

[@sarahelizabeth778]

@@Dan_is_a_liar I gotcha, well I’m happy to know you’re doing better and still going sober! Thanks for replying. 😊 God bless.

[@terintiaflavius3349]

@@sarahelizabeth778 My physical symptoms were terrible.

[@m.a.g.3920]

​@@sarahelizabeth778physical withdrawals are not the same for every person, normally Black seed oil + ashwagandha kills most symptoms but you could be unfortunate and if you cold turkey from +10gpd you'll suffer at least 4-5 days. Tapering to -4gpd then it probably won't be that bad. For me restlessness and insomnia is the worst but it last around 3-4 days then you just feel dull and meh for like 1-2 weeks more

[@ImTheManStan90]

The physical part is not pleasant. For me it was the Nebraska part. Staying focused on not focusing on kratom.

[@keithrichard391]

Kratom gave me double vision at times and had seizures 4-5 times...not safe friends

[@crystaldawn8875]

How do i quit? Its got me by the balls because when im off it i still have Fybromalgia chronic pain uhhg.

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

You have to taper. Whatever your normal daily dosages take the equivalent in capsules and every week remove one capsule.

[@crystaldawn8875]

Ok I will taper..my goal is to be free of this addiction..I have never had issues with drugs or alcohol I don't even smoke weed..so I'm hoping this will help me be able to walk away from it for good..I appreciate you sharing your journey..Thank You. Now what I'm gonna do to manage my pain on a daily basis idk..I'm active and take natural things but it still leaves me in tears or unable to work..so it's kinda scary. I know that Kratom for life is NOT GOOD AT ALL.

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

@@crystaldawn8875 I know it seems hopeless. Trust me, I've been there but it isn't hopeless. I'm 2 years clean from Kratom and I don't think about it ever.

[@dustyruppert1824]

Kratom gave me chest pains after 3-4 years of almost daily use...not saying it will happen to you but I had to quit CT and it is rough

[@jasonpark5692]

I quit after years of use, sometimes I felt like there were rocks on my chest, I could not breath.

[@seekingfreedom9020]

I get weird pain in my chest to on the days that I consume. On the days I don't take any kratom I never get that feeling, it's wierd

[@truthorpropaganda9001]

If anyone is watching this and want some tips that worked for me. I went carnivore 2 years ago..with some carbs occasionaly..aspargus. For what ever reason pumpkin seeds raw in the shell helps ease the brain ache/urge. Also if your heart and breathing get back to normal.. ONE or TWO cups of coffee (black)..NO MORE in your day. I do 1 cup in the morning and 1 cup in the afternoon. Eating a clean diet is a HUGE factor. Go Keto or even better carnivore.

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

Yep diet is everything

[@vincentgiambrone8487]

Was on kratom for pain instead of pain killers, I just stopped after pain was gone I was on it different strains just stopped no after effects just a headache for a few days, I dumped and washed for years , plus capsules I’m 74 now was on it for ten years

[@rolandledesma-de7qd]

Perpetual moderation is my montra. The difference between a medicine, and a poison is the dosage.

[@Gchang54]

Moderation on certain substances leads to addiction

[@josephgilbert3753]

Great advice. Thank you. My story is similar to yours. Right down to what you said about your family. I’m about to quit over Christmas break. Cold turkey if I can. This is my second time to quit as well. I’m more dependent this time than last. It’s been three years for me now. Scary to think about not having it. But it is unnatural and has definitely changed my brain. If I can get off, I promise I’ll never touch it again. What you said about depression really scared me. Kratom got me off of a growing dependency on alcohol. I’m so scared I’ll go back to drinking.

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

I hear you. If I could give any advice, I'd say to make a goal to get to 6 months and reevaluate from there. You can do a quick taper like I explained in the video which takes 6 weeks. I did six capsules a day once per day the first week and removed one capsule per week all the way into one capsuit per day for the last week. Remember the hardest thing that you'll have to deal with? It will be the lack of dopamine. You're going to have to do whatever you can to get over that part but you can do it!

[@__Henry__]

@@Dan_is_a_liar or the lack of serotonin...addiction being an over-reliance on dopamine for feeling good.

[@theflippestside]

i tried to go cold turkey but the withdrawal was too intense. i'm tapering off now slowly, and even now down to like 2 grams?day i'm still aching and having bad restless leg/body syndrome when trying to go to bed.

[@rossgirdeen3247]

Kratom has been nothing but a good thing in my life am I addicted to kratom sure I'm also a drug addict and alcoholic so I was messed up to begin with yeah I've quit for a few days and you feel like crap. Withdrawals it's not as bad as dope but it sucks.

[@rossgirdeen3247]

It's kept my life together and functional if you don't like the idea of needing something or being reliant on it I've been able to maintain a job and be a live a better life from it.

[@ScallyWagJones]

I work an extremely laborious job and I use kratom to make it threw. Sucks that I’m addicted but what can I do… my work is outdoors and extremely difficult

[@forrestperkins6237]

Unfortunately I've been considering suboxone to quit kratom. Is this too extreme? I can't quit normally I've tried other meds and cutting down.

[@dasGagaTier]

Using Kratom daily seems to be a dead sure path to addiction. When you started using it, were you aware in any way of its addictive potential? I discovered it only recently, and I saw big fat warnings about how you can get addicted literally everywhere. So I have been using it with caution, maybe every 1 to 2 weeks. At this level it seems like a safe and innocent pleasure. Or did you also start by using it rarely and then lapsing into daily use eventually?

[@internetperson9121]

Many many people start with the intention of occasional use and end up taking it every day. I took it for 5 years to help get me through work, it helped me with concentration and fatigue. It’s one of those things that helps a lot until the effects start to turn on you. I didn’t have that difficult of a time with acute effects of quitting but adjusting to work without it has been a little difficult.

[@dasGagaTier]

@@internetperson9121 Thanks! When you started, were you unaware that daily use must be avoided? Or did you know but slipped into daily use anyway?

[@m.a.g.3920]

​@@dasGagaTieri slipped into daily use cause it SEEMS to be so innocent, and honestly my withdrawals were nothing, not noticeable till I was using around 10 grams a day for months...then someday I felt myself taking it compulsive, I realized I was hooked, so I tried to quit CT, it was fucked up so I started a taper. I still use it daily (with t-breaks, now for example I'm 3 days off, but I didn't sleep shit for days...) Because it helps my diabetes so much... But I really don't know if I would start doing it over again if I could go back in time, you know? It helps to live without feeling your problems so much, but... Life means dealing with suffering.

[@ImTheManStan90]

Kratom is a very odd substance. If you've never tried it and also have a addictive personality, don't try it. You may not like it. But you might. It's to readily available and it's hard to get away from.

[@fredrickvoncold]

I think kratom is ok, but it has to be in moderation .Most people in pain will want to do it all the time . I have abused it for years and now im on my first week without it . I have no withdraw symptoms at all . I dont know what to think . I thought I would be sick , but im fine , its weird.

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

Keep telling yourself that

[@indiopeltier9758]

Thanks for sharing

[@deepwoodmotte4136]

Are you on other drugs (prescribed or not)?

[@EDungarian]

I have found the sweet spot for Kratom(depending on strain) is about 3-6 grams a day. Anything over that and it starts to get into being high and no longer just for pain or anxiety and more for chasing euphoria. You absolutely can use kratom responsibly and avoid all these problems.

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

Just because you did doesn't mean the next guy can. Try and understand that everybody reacts differently to Kratom. For me it was extremely addictive and not at all beneficial.

[@EDungarian]

@dana52484 Sure, I was specifically reporting on a dose between 3-6 grams. You and most others had issues at higher doses, which sometimes more than triples that 3-6 gram range. So I stand by my statement that using it correctly is beneficial and also agree that abusing kratom causes problems.

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

@@EDungarian well, you must have not watched my whole video because I explained in the video that I was only about 10 g a day

[@EDungarian]

@@Dan_is_a_liar I did. 10 grams is bigger than 3-6 grams, simple math. I am done with this conversation, you clearly are one sided on this issue. I was merely offering another opinion on how to use it responsibly. Have a good one...

[@johnjenkins9445]

@@EDungarian the issue is that everyone starts at a low dosage.. and it is so great you have found something that works for you, but i don't think you can declare what will or won't work for others ;)

[@Tim_M]

Are you still sober?

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

Yes!

[@johndurrer7869]

If anyone struggles with Kratom withdrawal they better not get into real drugs

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

I don't plan on it lol

[@AR-do2ob]

How are u now? Still clean?

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

Yes!

[@loveistheanswer5924]

I need help. 😭

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

No body can help you. You made the choice to take this and you have to be the one to quit it. Remember that you can quit. It's just a matter of putting your mind to it. A healthy diet and exercise is going to be the only thing that will work. If you believe in a higher power, prayer is also good

[@carabuchanan7384]

Me too!!! Wanted to take something (natural) after my spinal accident instead of harsh opioids boy was I wrong !! I’ve been taking 1/2 ts every 4 hrs of RMD and currently trying to wean! RLS, panic attacks ect Drs are not taking me seriously saying it’s just an herb

[@loveistheanswer5924]

​@@carabuchanan7384How much grams do you take per day at the moment and for how long? I take kratom now for about 8 years! I am taking a little bit over 40 grams per day! Kratom withdrawals cold turkey are HELISH and UNBEARABLY PAINFUL! 😖😫 🙂

[@loveistheanswer5924]

​@@carabuchanan7384I still am certain that kratom is even way better then chemical opioids! It's important that your leaves are tested tho. So that no pesticides and other harmful things are in it! 🙂

[@vincentgiambrone8487]

Was on kratom

[@nolanwofford2805]

God is good and helps all ❤ blessings

[@jcbanbury]

Comon you can do better 🤦

[@commiezombie2477]

10-20-30 GPD? BAHAHAHA I WISH it was that low.

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

Well aren't you cool!

[@OoSwIItchyOo]

Kratom not addictive tho....JKJKJK it is super addictive.

[@davedoesthingsdreaded]

Lotta misinformation spread about this. Its not an opiod. This guy said he carried a lot of guilt. Im sure hes the kind of person that lets things eat at him and holds guilt for anything in his life that could be considered addictive. Im not condoning usage but at lower doses they are esier to quit. I take 10g a day myself and i can miss days and be fine and i was on opiods for years. Kratom got me off the methadone clinic program. I tapered down first of course but 10g is so low. The only really good point made is exercise and proper nutrition. Even cbd could be considered an addiction

[@sarpsays]

10g is nothing. You were on "opiates" for years in the manner you refer here. Kratom is an opioid. An atypical opioid. You likely have a different profile of liver enzymes that causes you to metabolize kratom weaker, others have it such that they metabolize mitragynine into 7-OH-mitragynine in their body which is stronger than morphine. Far from "not being an opioid". You can google the scientific publications on the alkaloid metabolism of kratom, or read thousands of people's direct obvious experience with turning to complete junkie life, as you would any other "opiate". Only difference with kratom is you don't stop breathing because it doesn't affect beta-arrestin pathway. Edit: Congrats on getting off methadone. Kratom is useful in the sub-set of people that have liver enzymes like you where they don't get much opioid euphoria, and is used as a way to taper off dependency to other things.

[@bradydavis6365]

kratom had me by the short n curlys for years,, I been off it for about a year n half or two years and Im still healing from it. Kratom = bad

[@mrtennessee6862]

Also Jesus is my Lord and Savior. Have you considered putting your faith in Jesus. Please read John 3:16. God bless you

[@Mike_N_ike24]

Let me guess.. you’re drinking Coffee ?

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

What was your first clue?

[@Mike_N_ike24]

@@Dan_is_a_liar just one drug to the next I guess. Seems impossible to be actually sober

[@louidivine3140]

That was rediculous to taper that slow. That's not how to taper. You're going to just go three weeks taking less than you would have liked.

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

Well it worked for me! One year clean.

[@louidivine3140]

@@Dan_is_a_liar totally congratulations on becoming clean! Now is when we need to transition off from the kratom..do you plan to keep drinking kratom for a while still? And can I ask you how much you take daily

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

@@louidivine3140 do you not understand the meaning of clean? I'm clean as in I'm not taking Kratom anymore at all. It's been one year since my last dose

[@louidivine3140]

@@Dan_is_a_liar 100% i understand. I am an addict and I am an alcoholic brother no hate from me

[@MitchelPie]

What the fuck is Kratom?!

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

🤷‍♂️

[@glockinshpiel]

You’re cute. 😅😊

[@jcbanbury]

Eeewwwww. Gay.

[@Danceeric1]

kratom IS NOT an opiate!! stop that nonsense

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

Keep telling yourself that

[@sarpsays]

Yup it's an atypical opioid, if we're going to get technical.

[@jamescarrington5521]

First of all....Kratom is NOT a drug, nor is it an opioid, and I'm sick of people putting that misinformation out there!! You talk about being "high" on Kratom like it's some kind of stupor-inducing substance, like you can't work or drive a car while taking it, (unlike alcohol and Marijuana) and this is just not true. In fact, driving while high on weed is just as dangerous as driving drunk; I know, because I used to do it, and I don't even like weed, due to the severe paranoia it always caused me, but I had a few friends who used to chide me into taking a few hits, and that's the only reason I ever used it. I tried CBD oil for chronic pain; it did nothing for the pain, and it made me paranoid as well; I just don't like that shit at all. I was an RN until I could no longer endure the physical demands of the job, due to bone and joint issues, so I understand a thing or two about pharmacology and the pharmacodynamics of both drugs and supplements. Kratom isn't even a drug; it simply binds to the opioid receptors, which gives you an opioid feeling, but that's about where the similarities end. Withdrawals, IF you even experience them, are NOWHERE NEAR AS BAD as an actual, REAL opioid, TRUST ME, and I am tired of "12-step program" proponent groups like AA and NA telling people that they have a problem, even if they only ingest(ed) these substances occasionally. I took Kratom every day for about 2 years after several major surgeries, and when I no longer needed it, I stopped. Sometimes, when I need a boost to my mood, I'll take a few caps of it, and there's nothing wrong with that. No, Kratom does NOT "rewire your brain" like an actual real opioid DOES, either. I guess maybe I'm one of the lucky few; I can take these substances or leave 'em. I did coke a LOT for about a year in college, for the energy, but amphetamines and amphetamine-like drugs just don't do much for me; they just kept me awake, like caffeine; when I realized the money I was wasting on it, I just stopped, no problems, and I don't miss it. I can take alcohol or leave it; ditto for drugs like Xanax, and narcotic painkillers....Hell, stopping many common prescription antidepressants can cause withdrawals in some people. Personally, I can party hard daily for a year, then I say to myself, OK, you're wasting too much money on this shit, and I just walk away, no withdrawals. I think a lot of these "addictions," especially to simple supplements, are more psychological than physical, with some exceptions, like an actual opioid or a benzodiazepine like Xanax, Valium, or Ativan. Just sayin....PLEASE, EVERYONE....STOP CALLING KRATOM AN OPIOID, and for that matter, a drug at all!

[@rtazz17]

It acts as one.

[@jasminemariedarling]

No, kratom doesn't get me "high", it feels like caffeine plus a little happiness. I definitely work well on it, I've been taking it every day for 10 years. I didn't know it was so addictive, when I first took it, the info wasn't out like it is today. However. The withdrawals are horrific.

[@joemug4079]

I never thought of Kratom as a hard drug, like street drugs. I think of it as like coffee. Maybe I’m not as affected by it as most.

[@OoSwIItchyOo]

Wayyy worse than coffee for most people.

[@sarpsays]

That's the case when you take a low dose. Sub 10g usually. As is the case for most opioids, which merely give a relaxed well-being and energy at low enough doses. However, as is the case with them all... it's too enticing to keep pushing it up. Only difference with kratom is that it's an atypical opioid and very dependent on liver metabolism for the effects, thus my theory is that the reason some people don't get the same euphoria from it is due to varying enzyme profiles. Other people with stronger metabolism basically feel in the same league as a percocet or any other moderate opioid, with the caveat that it doesn't stop breathing - it's common to catch a nod on kratom with no tolerance granted this physiology.

[@robertmaimone8733]

Two months off kratom, sleep is broken but getting better every day! From teaspoon 4x a day, to 1/2 teaspoon to quarter to 1/8, tapering is key to getting off the kratom, feel much better being off of it, but kratom helped me come off 120mg/day, thank God !

[@MrAkaprimetime]

Kratom got you off of 120mg of what if u dont mind me asking

[@davedoesthingsdreaded]

​@MrAkaprimetime 120mg isn't right. That's nothing at all that's less then 1/8 teaspoon. Probably didn't mean 120 g. I'm guessing this person didn't want to post their dose

[@whocares4464]

This comment is hitting home man!!! Kratom has been a huge blessing! Been using off and on for 10 years. Been doing it daily for two months now 3-4x per day tbs dose. I'm fixing to start cutting down just like that. Going to take it slow dropping the dose every other week or once a week. It's helped me get off of subs that I took for seven years so glad it has worked but I understand it's not sustainable!!!

[@whocares4464]

@@MrAkaprimetime I'm guessing methadone program probably but possibly tabs or perks but 120mg habit of anything 😩😩😩 the withdrawals would be miserable! That's the amount I was on! Never again God willing!

[@StayDownComeUp512]

Boy meant 120mg if fenny in pills that look like percs

[@discernment4theSoul]

I guess this is day 10 for me. My back aches a lot. I got emotional after day 2 but only lasted for a day then I was good. Anyways thank you for your testimony, helpful for me to see your making the best of things!

[@tuanvicta]

Same as me

[@strongmanfernandez]

A world of addiction: Many have no idea what Kratom even is and when you tell em "drug addicts" than they post all day and scroll through social media like a zombie looking for the next dopamine hit like the MASSES do. Than others will say they would never do Kratom and dont have social media: while they binge on fast food, sugar filled dompamine drug addicts. addiction is addiction: iv seen plently put down the kratom to pick up the smart phone, put down the smart phone to pick up the cheese burgers and cupcakes, others to put down all of that to pick up the playstation controllers as much as possible and the weed, Than put down the weed and controllers to pick up the booze!!!!.....on and on the circus goes. Some addictions are 100% acceptable while others are taboo and terrible: we live in a world of 24/7 addiction of endless variety - all take you away from what you trully need and want to do.

[@richperkins5192]

Appreciate your pouring the heart out on this brother! I’m just starting to go back through it

[@peachion2]

I have been taking Kratom for 5 years for pain. Without it I lose the ability to walk. I take about 4 grams once a day with occasional breaks. Everyone that has a withdrawal story has been taking high doses. The options available for pain control are poor. Kratom is a godsend.

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

Well this video isn't for you then. This is for people who took it recreationally and are having a hard time quitting.

[@loveistheanswer5924]

I took 10g of kratom a day the withdrawals where HORRIBLE. Completely unbearable. 😭

[@GhettoToaster85]

So on the days you take a break, do you just not walk all day?

[@louidivine3140]

Not everyone..some are overly sensitive to it. My father took a half gram of green mang da and it hit him so hard. He said it felt a lot like morphine.

[@terintiaflavius3349]

I highly doubt Kratom makes you be able to walk

[@christopherhill359]

Thank you for sharing your story. I am currently trying to stop. its the hardest thing that I have ever tried to quit. I went from feeling great and happy all the time to my life is a living hell, I can not even feel like a normal person unless I take this green powder 4 times a day.it gives me hope hearing your story thank you.

[@GhettoToaster85]

Hey man, you still on it? How many grams are you taking a day?

[@christopherhill359]

@@GhettoToaster85 I was at taking 8 grams four times a day so I was at 32 grams a day… I’m doing a really slow taper and right now I’m at taking 4 grams three times a day so I’m at 12 grams a day at this point of my life… but I already am feeling way better. Next week I’m going to try just 4 grams twice in a day…I’m just being really slow about it but I hope to be off in a month is my goal..

[@indiopeltier9758]

@@christopherhill359 that's way too much ,holy crap.Over and oz a day is ridiculous

[@cwindhorst83]

@@indiopeltier9758 Thanks this is really helpful.

[@cwindhorst83]

@Christopher Hill I'm in the same boat as you right now. 8 grams four times a day. Stay strong brother, we can do this. It's honestly one of the toughest things I've done.

[@davidjd123]

First thing I noticed about taking Kratom was my motivation to go to the gym, I used to get exited to get the weight or bag work. but then I started noticing me dragging ass. watching tv in my gym clothes really taking a long time to go. then When I get there I do the bare minimum and leave. That's my biggest reason to quit. if im not motivated to hit the gym anymore I wonder where else its affecting my life that I might not see.

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

Flip side of the coin is wait till you quit and then see motivation for the gym afterwards. You'll be more motivated than you ever have in your life.

[@rjolleyhomes]

He is describing the clinical symptoms of clinical depression. I know i was exactly in his shoes and when i told my Dr these same symptoms she said you have clinical depression. 3 weeks after beginning the medication the cloud of doom and gloom that was a constant part of my life dissipated and i finally felt normal.. too many people are suffering like this and don't realize they have clinical depression and something can be done about it

[@jennm6758]

Can I ask what medication?

[@Nitidus]

​@@jennm6758 It doesn't matter because it won't help you. Antidepressants are a very personal thing. Success varies wildly on the individual level. You need a good psychiatrist and work your way through them, end of story. Depression isn't a single illness that can always be treated the same. People suffer from depression for a myriad of reasons, even if you only look at the biochemical aspects. Good luck!

[@katiehamlin1948]

I did it cold turkey. 8 days of hell. Gotta get your gut right after you purge the toxins. Take amino acids to help produce proper chemical balance in the brain. Eat very clean. Sweat. Pee. Poop. Exercise and drink plenty of water. Getting the gut clean is vital to aid in eliminating depression/anxiety.

[@FadedHolySoldier]

I was hooked on kratom for 2 years...I quit cold turkey after realizing how addicting it was and couldn't function without it!! The first few weeks were rough when I quit kratom!! I been now off kratom for a a year and 5 months! Kratom helped me with social anxiety but I cant depend on that stuff anymore.

[@dasGagaTier]

Were you unaware of its addictive potential and that daily use should be avoided, or did you know but lapsed into an addictive use pattern anyway?

[@fancyincubus]

This is why we need to study it and make it's use legal like alcohol or tobacco I used it to help me get off methadone and didn't feel cravings for kratom nearly as bad methadone ( stay away from the extracts more potent more addictive with less body load ) if you have an addictive nature maybe it's on of those things to avoid like tobaco an alcohol i do sometimes take a gram dose with Tylenol because psoriatic arthritis is painfull and no one can get the painkillers they need due to this opioid crisis

[@dasGagaTier]

@@fancyincubus what needs to be made legal are psychedelic substances such as LSD and psilocybin because they have been shown to be effective in the treatment of addiction

[@amnakieli7560]

How long did it take to feel back to normal after quiting? Its the mental withdraws for me.

[@loveistheanswer5924]

Try L theanin for anxiety. Like for example 1,5 grams of l theanin. 🙂

[@rickc-137___]

If your going to use anything do it in moderation Mind over matter is real And so is addiction Don't pop pills Don't smoke meth And definitely don't use heroin If you need a life enhancer Chances are you are not living the best life Harm reduction and education is everything There is a difference between using a substance to heal And using a substance to numb out Either way this guy shares a good story And we in this society can all learn from this Addiction has many forms all of them usually end up in the same place

[@ntandosekay]

❤❤❤

[@handsomejack93]

🙏

[@jasonpark5692]

I have relapsed many times over the years. Don't do it.

[@mikehunt4797]

I went from pills to booze when pills weren't around then just boozed hard quit drinking over a year ago was just sick of it but now im still on Hydromorphone(Dillaudids) Im going on Kratom again tomorrow as ive used it to kick pills in the past but then went back to Hydros. Pretty sick of the repetative cycle i don't want to be hooked on Kratom but if it's kratom or Hydros i can tell you that i will still be saving over 1000 a month and not running all over to buy pills so it will be cheaper and healthier but the goal is to use Kratom for a week then ditch i just want to get back to enjoying my weed i grow and that's it.

[@l0lan00b3]

What was it like going from kratom to hydros? I've never had a big issue with opiates but kratom was always available and fairly affordable. Needless to say I've been taking it for a long while. I've gone through WD before, off of other things, but it hasn't been a viable option in a long time. Would you think an actual opiate, like hydrocodone, would lessen the effects of "high" dose kratom WD?

[@mikehunt4797]

@@l0lan00b3 I think it would probably be a lot stronger but it would depend on how much you took. It could help get rid of all the WD symptoms but if you stayed on it too long could be worse then being on Kratom. id maybe replace the Kratom with low dose of opiate but only for like 4 to 5 days max.

[@LIFESSHORTTAKEARISK]

10 grams is still a lot Imo lol

[@tdunn779]

30-40 grams per day for like 6 years now and it has destroyed me, on day 2 1/2 of quitting cold turkey right now, tried last year this exact same time and lasted 14 days then freaking relapsed and right now on day 2 1/2 I want to go buy some so damn bad it’s horrible, haven’t slept more than 5 hours in 48 hours my body is in insane pain and my mind is going nuts. Fuck kratom, how can I want to quit SO bad but now in the withdraws want to go right back, so stupid I hate being an addict

[@Dan_is_a_liar]

Remember that at the two-week Mark that's about the hardest it's going to get. You should consider trying my method I talked about in the video for weaning. It takes 6 weeks

[@alexandereckert5939]

I take about 8-10 GPD max. this gives me a new perspective on how heavy my use is. I am planning soon to go to 6 gpd and eventually 6 gpd once, then 4. then 2

[@_blew_a_fuse_7372]

You'll be fine give it yr man it's neuroplasticity your healing our brains aren't stupid good luck man you'll be fine !!

[@ivanaveliskova3201]

Thank you very much for this video about your journey. This is the best video by my opinion, because you are so real and opened your mind for us. So, if I understood, 5 months and you are not very well. It is positive for me, because I am about month and half eithout kratom and I am out of energy and I am felling like you. So it is keeping me calm and giving me hope that I need morr time mabye. God is blessing you and your familly I will pray for you and one again, thank you very much. Greeting from Slovakia, so sorry for my english, please.

[@aliciaestrada72]

Thank you for this. I needed to hear this. I am quitting kratom like tomorrow. I appreciate you. You are doing great!

[@horse-4598]

How’d quitting go for you or did you not?

[@aliciaestrada72]

@@horse-4598 hey hello there! I did quit. It took me a while to get my energy back, but it’s back now. Thank goodness 😅 I haven’t gone back nor want to I’m trying to get myself healthy again through nutritional food and vitamins, exercise, lot of reading and meditating and praying. All this together and not wanting to be addicted to anything is really working out for me. I do occasionally take a melatonin or magnesium before bed. I picked up drinking 3-4 cups of coffee, but am I. The process of cutting back I’m doing 2-3 now and eventually 1-2 and down to 0-1 everything takes time. I will get there eventually. I was able to lose a 5 lbs 4lbs to go and I will be where I want to be. Thanks for asking! How are you doing?