Why I Stopped Taking Kratom | “Is it truly safe?” (EDUCATIONAL)

[@closinginonclosure]

My rule is, everything in moderation. Even moderation.

[@life-destroyerofworlds7036]

closinginonclosure I've built a life philosophy out of this.

[@closinginonclosure]

Life, Destroyer of Worlds Definitely not a bad idea.

[@xlifewritex]

I agree except that can lead to addiction to.

[@ChiefShaman]

Thanks jre

[@psychoactivednb]

right

[@GringaGringa123]

I'd rather take Kratom daily than be on Methadone

[@sergez6172]

100%

[@jaredc.9646]

Anybody actually kick subs or methadone with kratom? If so, did anyone successfully stop kratom use after? I want off the opiate management program.

[@iLeviathan]

Jared Coyne Most do. You can taper kratom and quit with very few side effects

[@jaredc.9646]

Thanx no name. It's been working well, so far. I guess it couldn't be any worse than kickin the big H...

[@iLeviathan]

I personally have not used it to kick mdone, but have used it to kick other things. I know many who have used it for mdone, as well. Kratom use can be very okay long-term to treat chronic pain. I tapered regularly, and would use less than necessary on days I was not needing to function for work. Agmatine also helps a bunch to keep tolerance low.

[@DJjonesy1985]

I was drinking a fifth of liquor a day,last summer. Starting taking Kratom. Got sick from mixing the two. Stopped drinking alcohol. Got to about 15 grams in the morning and 15 grams in the evening. Got sick without the Kratom. Decided to stop taking Kratom cold turkey and got sick for about 3 days straight and finished off the week pretty sluggish. 7 months clean from drowning myself in liquor, 2 years cigarette free, and 2 weeks without Kratom.. That being said, I would like to say that the Kratom journey was worth it (withdrawal included), and probably saved my life!

[@gungun5845]

nice bro!

[@scotthobbs4182]

I was a hardcore binge drinker. I quit by going to rehab and use Kratom when i get the craving for a drink. Keeping the doses low but high enough to get the opiate-like effects gives me that feeling I sought from a fifth of vodka. So much safer and doesn't make one act stupid and crazy like alcohol does. Still finding a happy medium with it, but I'm glad I discovered kratom definitely. It deserves to be legal and it should be respected for its potency.

[@taracall]

Exact same story as mine. 18-31 severe party alcoholic. Then kratom for 4 years straight. I’m so over feeling numb and losing my hair and libido. So I’m on day two of no ktm right now and the restless legs is the worse cuz I can’t sleep but I started taking nootropics to help support brain repair-dopamine, seratonin, and GABA balancing. So the withdrawals haven’t been so bad because of them

[@Kimzielynn]

Seeing this comment is 2 months old,how is your kratom use?I am currently in a cycle I would like to break,any advice?

[@scotthobbs4182]

@@Kimzielynn taper slowly. Say if you have 3 teaspoons a day, cut one of those doses in half so you have 2 1/2 teaspoons the next couple days. Then have a few days of 2 teaspoons. Then continue until you are no longer using it. Tapering gets rid of most withdrawal effects. I was on 3 teaspoons a day and down to 2 so far in 2 days.gonna take a break to lower tolerance, and then only use it when really stressed or have an alcohol craving.

[@matth9254]

I just stopped Kratom a month ago. Very addictive. Made my depression horrible and had no sleep schedule. Horrible withdrawals.

[@nicolasbremand3174]

It is a medecine to quit drugs and alcool. If you use it for other stuffs it is not going to work. It actually can mess you up if not use for the right pathology. You can't not know what you'r doing when it comes to natural medecine, it's not because it's natural that you don't have to study it before using it.

[@onlineidssuck]

Very addicted to it right now. Can’t seem to function without been on it damn near every day for almost 3 years. Joining the navy now to change my life in November. I’ve stopped a few times cold turkey. Absolutely useless. Cannot work horrible restless legs. Tampering down now

[@AshtonStands4Awesome]

How do you go off of Kratom that doesn't just hit you with horrible withdrawal?

[@lesterparker1594]

Astonstands4awesome…I was taking up to 40 grams a day for years. Here’s what I did and I’ve had very minimal withdrawals. I switched to pills and recorded exactly how many I was taking a day. I took away 1 pill a day from one of my doses. I went from 40 grams a day and now I’m down to 6. I’ll be done pretty soon. The only symptoms ive noticed is a little bit of muscle aches and I’m a little tired. But it hasn’t been bad at all. I recommend trying it out.

[@AshtonStands4Awesome]

@@lesterparker1594 thank you so much. :)

[@cannafarmer]

I quit heroin so many times but never stayed off it until kratom. I'll pick kratom all day. Saved my life. Good vid tho

[@nameredacted1176]

Exact same for me Matt. 2 years this past November. All because of Kratom. Be well buddy

[@samhain183]

Kratom was successful in treating your heroin withdrawals? That’s pretty damn incredible.

[@cannafarmer]

@@samhain183 yea if its quality its very helpful if its the leaf and it keeps cravings away as well. I could care less about heroin these days, which is a miracle after being on and off for 20 years.

[@albertgiles5128]

How much did you take daily ? And how did you start taking it ? Like did you wait till you started kicking or did start taking it when you were coming off the black ?

[@alexmendoza3809]

For real

[@charlottehaille2305]

This guy is NOT advocating a Kratom ban! He’s just saying that it CAN be addictive.

[@MattRuizPhotoCinema]

Science showed in rats it doesn't trigger the same spots in the brain that deals with addiction like pharma opioids.

[@charlottehaille2305]

Matt Ruiz Photo Can you link to the study? All drugs of addiction don’t necessarily light up the same parts of the brain in the same way. The addictive pathways might be different than other opioids. (It is a unique substance.) Plus beyond the positive “reward” aspects of addiction there are negative aspects that promote substance use due to withdrawals. RLS, stomach discomfort, explosive diarrhea, etc. Not discounting the point. I’d need to check out the study. I’d be really interested to read it. Thanks!

[@lukapopovic6668]

Thank you ma'am

[@charlottehaille2305]

Luka Popovic You’re welcome Sir! I tell it like it is.

[@tolishaws]

Just like anything someone likes.

[@briannawood7005]

Coming from someone who was addicted to heroin and methadone for 15 years, the withdrawals from kratom are nothing. A walk in the park, I'd take having no energy any day compared to that. I've taken kratom daily for over a year and have never had to up my dose. In my case it keeps me away from the harder shit and I'm not playing Russian roulette with my life multiple times a day. I have my life back because of kratom.

[@Daswassuphomie]

If they make kratom illegal I'm going back to shooting up dope

[@MrJasoncatalano]

Brianna Wood same here

[@ExploitMage]

to be honest Oxycodone withdrawal was always a lot less noticable than Codeine for me... maybe i overproduce morphine via CYP450 or whatever its called.. i say that to say this; everyones body is different. and im talking 300mg codeine daily vses 230-250mg oxycodone daily, oxy is 5x more potent Mg for Mg than Codeine. So, we are all going to react different to shit

[@Seudaren]

Daily oxymorphone was the name of the game, Kratom was the way to abstain.. and still is.

[@billscannell93]

Brianna Wood Yep. It's sure helped me stop what would have been a lethal-within-five-years drinking habit. I'm glad it was basically acknowledged at the end of this video that serious addicts might roll their eyes at this, because that was kind of my reaction. Haha

[@zackstanaford105]

Kratom literally saved my life. As well as many others. Grown adults should be able to use whatever substance they want as long as they don't push it on others. The government needs to back off. People can make their own decisons.

[@stevencrow5462]

Lol STFU

[@cherylcarpenter4698]

Well said

[@Rocko1990]

This is true but you should not suggest to others that something isn't addictive when it is. Not saying you do this, but that tends to be the controversy with kratom

[@cherylcarpenter4698]

The best way to get off Kratom is to wean way down first then it's not so bad coming off of it.

[@SamClarkschannel]

I'm with you Zack.

[@LostRangerPolicies]

I’m an alcoholic, I started taking Kratom to ease the urge to drink. It has helped me significantly to reduce my alcohol in take especially in the evenings when I’m used to having a drink. Kratom and CBD have helped me so much and I can’t thank educational channels like this one. I was drinking hard for years now I m able to get up early and exercise eat right and carry on daily activities without being hung over or drunk .

[@fernandapartridge5174]

Gary Vallone go easy if you want to detox from booze.... alcohol withdrawals can kill you. Withdrawing off opiates is no picnic, but it won’t kill you like alcohol. I feel for you, not a fun place to be. Hope you get through it ok.

[@jmoney584]

Good, it's the lesser of two evils for you. But try not consuming kratom, and see how your life goes. You are now dependent on kratom, and if that makes your life positive and healthy other then the dependency factor - then good for you. Some people require a medication, and if it's natural, all the better! It's ok to admit we need a medication to help us in life.

[@Dyntithius]

Red Borneo helped me quit alcohol.

[@good6894]

If you want to "reverse" the negative effects, benadryl will do this. Unfortunately this also means one can take Kratom over and over again and not get sick. Take Kratom, then take a few benadryl, and an hour'ish later all the bad effects caused by too much kratom will go away. Careful with the benadryl though, too much can also be extremely unpleasant for a good 10 to 30 minutes. Fortunately, if you do overdose on benadryl, taking Kratom will "totally" fix this lol

[@andymccloskey8039]

Kratom withdrawals are just as bad as opiate withdrawals.. although I was taking more than an ounce a day for a long time

[@coolstorybro_cant_wait_4_movie]

Ive went through heroin withdrawl multiple times. Kratom is a walk in the park compared to heroin.

[@porkfriedrice1530]

Agreed

[@tymeflyzj8559]

Big facts. Wouldn't wish opioid or amphetamine withdrawals on anyone.

[@Heisenberg-dy6sy]

Preach brother fentanyls a bitch 2...im 64 days sober n fukn tht thought is just there physically im great mentally good its just tht thought...u knw it obviously just sayn no

[@tymeflyzj8559]

@@Heisenberg-dy6sy I'm not even clean yet lasted 4 years last time I got clean. rehab tomorrow but I'm already living in fear of relapse before I even stopped.

[@TresonBerry]

@@tymeflyzj8559 you got this shi*

[@eyedestroyeverything9953]

Kratom saved my life . No troll just facts .

[@wretchpin]

Me too man...

[@wezilla21]

Word

[@codyevans6726]

@Troll Mctrollerson lmfao

[@brokendreamchaser39s]

No facts just trolls

[@goldenmemes51]

@Troll Mctrollerson I love you

[@paiton2785]

I’m on day 4 without it. Watching this video is the first time I don’t feel completely alone and crazy dealing with this. Withdrawals have been SO shitty and it’s been mental and the physical withdrawals. Almost all of the symptoms you mentioned. Motivation went to zero, I’ve had joint pain (and I’m 22!!). Cravings are still bad. My daily use had gotten even worse than what was mentioned in this video. Thank you for making this. I’m not anti kratom but it was starting to consume more of my life than I’d like it to. I have an extremely supportive partner who is getting me through it so I’m really grateful. Anyways, if you’re trying to quit daily use too you got this!! Hopefully we both do!!

[@SirCharles246]

Im on day 15 it gets better but yea its no joke still don't feel 100 percent and have been having crazy dreams so that's interesting

[@loveistheanswer5924]

Are you off it? I am still on it. 😪

[@loveistheanswer5924]

@@dp9769 I am happy for you. 🙂👍 You have my respect! You know what helps? DXM helps. If you take it it shouldn't have any other active ingredient in it besides DXM! 90mg should be the starting dose. But only take it if you can't handle the withdrawals. I am still a slave to this plant and I spendig a lot of money for it without even having an effect. 🙄 I wish you the best! 🙂❤️

[@nrman66]

You still off it? How long did the withdrawal symptoms last? I’m on day four now and I have no mental withdrawal but the physical withdrawal is fucking me up.

[@abboharoon9682]

Don't go back. Look forward to something. It won't last forever.

[@beckyestes5339]

"I don't want to have to drink this green sludge for the rest of my life just to feel like myself" too real

[@nathansprowl8453]

It comes in caps u can swallow. No taste

[@NickyD.Streams]

@@nathansprowl8453 haha

[@Scroolewse]

After having taken it for a while, I've begun to love the process of taking it. I put some music on full blast and then toss and wash two teaspoons. Something about just that process gives me a bigger hit of dopamine than the actual effect of the drug, no idea why.

[@beckyestes5339]

@@Scroolewse addiction will make some of the biggest turn offs for others, very appealing over time. Idk why lol it's weird, I used to be addicted to benzos and I would chew them but they tasted absolutely terrible just bitter chemical taste but after a while I loooved the taste of them even tho I knew it wasn't a good taste

[@Scroolewse]

@@beckyestes5339 Yeah I mean that's definitely why. I am surely addicted, though I have on several occasions been forced to stop taking it for durations as long as a month and never experienced any withdrawal beyond slight cravings and a general "down" sort of feeling.

[@drowningincats3921]

I am a chronic pain patient. Was put on opiates (big doses) for years. I now take Kratom instead. If I HAVE to treat my pain I find it’s side effects easier to deal with than opiates.

[@drowningincats3921]

The Red 27 Motorsport Archive actually cold causes huge flares in my condition lol a cold bath would be revolver in the mouth time. I have what’s called a “suicide disease” bc pain can get that bad

[@duelviper9871]

i feel your pain i have a weird chronic shoulder pain(that only activates the last 6 hours of the day) and kratom makes life so much more tolerable with it but lately i have been abusing it by taking a half dose as a preworkout to help my body push past its limits which i should probably phase out

[@duelviper9871]

oh and certain strains i have tested give next to no euphoria and little mood shift but an excellent amount of pain relief (Elephant, gold bali, and to a lesser degree red bali)

[@SUBZEROxACID]

I have just read up on your condition I am so sorry, what effects does marijuana have?.

[@The.Lone.Wolf.]

Ikr

[@ragdaddyreagan5671]

I used endo kratom to get off of heroin, been sober for 3 1/2 years now, I don't do kratom or any opioids, etc.

[@ragdaddyreagan5671]

Shaun Holden I was dosing 2 times a day on average. I will say, I was a heavy user and my dose was not small. I slowly weaned myself off lowering my dose, I am not saying I did not have any withdrawals at all but they were very mild in comparison to what a full-blown withdrawal was without it. Hope this helps

[@AlphaMom55]

Shelley Reagan Congratulations on getting clean! I'm sincerely happy for you. God bless you and protect you. 💙🙏

[@dogLasthe]

Good work man! To kick that is a win and im happy kratom did help you. I use it for depression and it works better than what my doctor gave me. Insomnia i cure with glycine amino acid!

[@alanaragon2094]

man that's great good for you I'm proud of you !

[@sos5849]

Congratulations man. It's important to remind people there is Hope.

[@z-man3555]

This is the most honest testimony of Kratom I’ve ever heard. I know because I’m also going through the daily Kratom roller coaster as well.

[@Kimzielynn]

Me too an dit sucks.i dont even know how the hell I let this happen to me.

[@z-man3555]

@@Kimzielynn it does sucks. I say that to myself everyday. I’ve become dependent on it. Just horrible

[@TheChuck181]

Give yourselves some time and taper off of it. If you go slow but steady you can get off it without much to deal with.

[@z-man3555]

@@TheChuck181 thanks, bcus I been taking Kratom for a long time now and the moment I tried to stop, I felt terrible. I’ll try lowering my dosage

[@TheChuck181]

@@z-man3555 no problem man good luck

[@turboflutter9325]

This guy looks like a drug reviewer version of Sean Evans

[@davidjd123]

turbo mcman I thought the same shit lol. “High ones”

[@JohnWayne-86ed]

turbo mcman He reminds me of "Mr. Clean".

[@pavlo3511]

Hello in sean evans and this is hot spoon

[@revenueeeeeee]

LOL

[@shivampatel6559]

😂😂

[@allancrow134]

I used Kratom to kick 30 years of Methadone maintenance, something I never thought I could do.

[@WhoamI-su7pg]

Do you think it’d help me ween off suboxone

[@David-eu1ms]

@@WhoamI-su7pg yes, take it slowly.

[@alexsmith5606]

methadone is a lot safe. kratom affects you liver. you might want to rethink this

[@Nahoermal383]

@@alexsmith5606 dude do Research Methadone: it can make your teeth fall out... methadone isnt near to beeing Healthy compared to kratom

[@jk7197]

Awesome bro! I was on the juice 5 years wish I had Ktatom to ween!

[@TheGreatLeslie]

it got me off tramadol and morphine when i snapped my femur in a million pieces. it took all the pain away of the withdrawals. now im completely sober apart from the occasional hash doobie

[@KeetyPooh]

Do you still take the kratom? Just curious, because people have different definitions of what sober is.

[@Luminous-iLLusions]

I'm currently on literally 1mg of suboxone a day and I can't get off of it, it's so hard, do you think kratom could help me through at least the withdrawals so I won't have to be on anything anymore. I was addicted to heroin for 4 years and have been clean almost a year but with suboxone maintenance and I can't stand the side effects anymore. I've never tried kratom before I'm just not sure and haven't found any consistent info online yet

[@adam556]

wish i could answer your question with 100% certainty but i think kratom should help with sub withdrawls aswell. Its very helpful with opiate withdrawl many people say so id give it a shot. And congrats with 1 year sober man! 4 years is a long time. Good shit and keep it up!

[@finnhaney7432]

THEGhostfacekillaaa I’m no expert but I’d definitely give it a try there’s no harm in trying it. Maybe it’ll help you get clean again 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Kobesfreelobbies]

THEGhostfacekillaaa ayahuasca or Ibogaine good luck

[@matejcerny6106]

I used kratom for more than 2 years, my daily dose was somewhere around 50-60 g, couse of the tolerance build up. Everytime i tried to stop a thought i was gonna die, it was the worst battle of my life. I am posting this comments now from rehab center as i decided its time to take my life back. One week in without a single dose and i am feeling lot better. They tried to put me on Suboxone but i declined so it was a little hellish but overall i feel like myself again for the first time in 2 years. I wish luck to every soul trying to quit an addiction, its always in you and every one can do it!

[@thisisnotmychannel4860]

50-60 g? 8 g make me want to puke lol...

[@Js71000socialist]

You were put on subs for kratom?

[@matejcerny6106]

@@Js71000socialist affirmative

[@joem7023]

Hope all is well, brother. Day 15 here sober and never going back to this poison.

[@crawlzzz]

Holy crap 50+ grams. That's insane. I took 12-15g for a long time but I couldn't imagine that much. I'd be completely out of it.

[@highintensity415]

forcing yourself to exercise, maybe after drinking some good coffee in the morning and doing a cold shower or a contrast shower once or twice a day will help a lot with the withdrawals, as well as eating super clean

[@SeeBovv]

yep, i can relate. and taking zinc, magnesium and other vitamins helps a lot. ive also tried to microdose shrooms and my withdrawals and cravings were a lot lower.

[@ethereal369]

Avoiding sugar, caffeine, tobacco & all other addictive substances during withdrawl will help you get through it & actually heal a lot faster, can make the whole process a lot less uncomfortable, unless you're heavily addicted to those things too. Any substance that triggers a heavy dopamine release is going to slow down the process of withdrawal & recovery. It doesn't mean don't use these things forever. Just during recovery.

[@ratt57]

I agree with everything except the coffee... it made me even more jittery and anxious!

[@1010DarkNight]

Anyone else notice the Colossal Titan in the back?

[@leviathan0232]

That’s so awesome!

[@the_lost_jackal4984]

Whoaaaaahhh 😸😸😸

[@nijinskyhind7308]

can I ask how old is she? your daughter? cause that seem pretty hard to draw for anyone under six.. I mean.. maybe five or even four could be possible if she's drawing every day.. but you don't want to show that anime to your daughter before six.. or eight.. I mean.. I grew up watching "hokuto no ken" but the eighties were different.. today I don't know.. is that safe? whatever.. you know what you're doing.. congrats in any case.. cheers

[@howiebouthat3435]

53 seconds of justification just to stop KZbin flippantly banning the video.

[@inigo137]

@C. Michael OH NO he wants money from the work he has done WHAT A MONSTER!

[@inigo137]

@C. Michael Nice proyection bud, you sound like a really level headed person.

[@choosefreedom4725]

@C. Michael lmao, he didn't make the intro to avoid getting it banned. He made it so they did not demonotize it, which youtube does quite a lot for all creators I hear

[@choosefreedom4725]

@C. Michael Yeah, it was your lack of punctuation, so you sounded like a moron

[@smashmcg]

I truly appreciate your honesty and openness of your experiences. I also appreciate your lack of bias and bs. I tip my hat to you sir, keep up the good work!

[@jb.899]

I'm coming off 110 mg of methadone and not doing so well wish me luck

[@chimpfinger11]

You make it homie?

[@Bootstrahps]

Good luck my dude. I kicked heroin 9 months ago. There is light on the other side of methadone!!

[@AllisterCaine]

You would be one scary dude if you would be doing good man. Keep it up.

[@dingosmith9932]

Keep at it man! Come down and then get on Subs. It'll be the best thing you ever did!

[@ericbland2]

Good luck bro. You got this.

[@Buffy_kitten_offical]

I have been taking Kratom for years to manage my pain and I want to thank you for sharing your experiences with it

[@irmaummumelek2365]

Did you ever stop?

[@Buffy_kitten_offical]

@@irmaummumelek2365 no I would rather take Kratom than be on high doses of pain medication because of my fibromyalgia and spinal issues

[@roach7017]

Some people may have had bad experiences w/ kratom. The truth of that shouldn't be covered up. But the big picture is that it's saving lives, and the govt and FDA are trying hard to criminalize it b/c it's costing them money. That shouldn't be covered up either, or minimized just b/c there are risks involved. And it DOES NOT need to be restricted or controlled, b/c THEN it would be unattainable and used for profit. We are all adults and we need to be held responsible for our decisions, and that includes being educated and not be naive about the risks.

[@stevenellison3128]

Amen.

[@starless1444]

I agree

[@brandeecastilleja1753]

100 percent agree with you

[@omarcasablancaa]

on point

[@jamefranco7483]

roach We are not all adults, and some have to be responsible for others, your argument informs of your

[@arknark]

I've been tapering down slowly as my last kilo depletes. For the past several months I've been supplementing my brain with 5-HTP, L-Tyrosine, and GABA in order to hopefully wire my brain correctly once I do quit. I can say, when I go twelve hours without Kratom, it's not so much my mood that drops or anything, it's just that physical gross vibration and empty stomach feeling that makes me feel like I need more Kratom. Best of luck to y'all.

[@EncourageLegacy]

N0Fap truly helps. You produce more Endorphines, also Dopamine, naturally. Believe it or not. I don't crave any substance on streaks. I just feel complete.

[@ftwgunnerpwns]

I was literally just thinking about this so i looked it up and boom there it is, uploaded 1 minute ago, didn't look at notifs or anything

[@lukas-kevynmuller6697]

AlmostVegas | Joey hahahaha cool

[@filipgronlund1713]

:)

[@aadencorona4770]

AlmostVegas | Joey intuition:)

[@pammoeller855]

Thanks to Menthol !

[@RichLopp]

Quitting WAS a hellish nightmare!!! You’re so on point! I’ve been there too!!

[@boogiemcsploogie]

I'm kind of glad somebody else has had this experience too. I tried to cold turkey it yesterday, felt like such crap, I'm going to have to taper my way out of this.

[@traysonwright4008]

@arch stanton I’m right there’s with you man. Tried to cold turkey yesterday and failed last night due to horrible pain in my legs. Taper it is. Best of luck to you man. Good to know we aren’t alone in this.

[@azaraniichan]

@@boogiemcsploogie I went cold turkey 6 days ago and the anxiety and body aches were atrocious for the first 3 days. I'm sticking to it and already feel 60% better but that stuff is rough. I hope you can stay on the right path, good luck to you man

[@fatcheech1]

@@traysonwright4008 Dude the restless leg part of it is absolutely miserable

[@masonschaar3423]

@@fatcheech1 hello..I have a question..I've been on some hard stuff for a long while and trying to get off of it..how many grams you think I should take..I'm not gonna get into specifics about what I'm on..just need help trying to get off..please help.

[@uribheidi]

I take 21-24 grams a day and I run 7 miles a day 5-6 days a week. Kratom helped me lose 75 lbs after I had my baby last year. I have no sexual side effects. I think Kratom affects everyone differently.

[@lilherb3864]

Hell ya I thought I was the only one dosing 20+ grams a day hahah

[@uribheidi]

lil herb I think there’s people who take way more than that.

[@ericellquist7007]

@@uribheidi Saw the Vice channel video of some guy interviewing this Thai cat. Apparently these folks keep a pocket full of leaves and just chew them all day long. Like some dude dipping snoose. I had chronic back pain, had to take the pain pills every four hours for years. Kratom got me clear of that, but believe me; it just puts the withdrawal on hold. I finally stopped cold after a couple of months. Don't want to do that again....

[@uribheidi]

Eric Ellquist is it worse than opioid withdrawal?

[@ericellquist7007]

@@uribheidi That depends. Duration of addiction, type of opiate, plus individual brain chemistry and architecture. I had been on different types of pain meds for years. Bulging discs, lower back. Had to be able to work, so I took the meds. Had to do the contract with the doctor, all that. Periodically I would get fed up, and quit. Methadone was the worst. When I started the Kratom, I was on morphine. Took the Kratom for two months and I decided to go cold turkey. Two weeks of hell. First week I felt like I was burning up. Like my temperature was 150°. It wasn't but I felt it anyway. Brain gets messed up, the normal receptors for pain, temperature, taste, smell... Different for everybody, I guess. One thing I did notice,.was that the red, green, and white have different effects. I was on the red when I quit. The red alkyloids are more like the opiates, the green, less so. The white less still. White is more of a stimulant, green has the stimulant and opiate effect, so if I had it to do again, I would switch from the red to the green, until I got steady with that and then start the white, same, same. Eventually tapering off the white.

[@mikey100swim]

The comment section's really doin wonders for a guy rn. Glad to know there's so many, SO many people out there that can attest to these withdrawal effects/negatives. The dumbest part for me is I watched this video years ago, hearing these exact points made, yet come today (day 2 of no kratom) I couldn't fathom why I was so damn PISSED. I hadn't felt anger like that in years...over the littlest things too. It didn't help that I was smoking weed multiple times a day on top of my evening kratom use [and tried quitting both cold turkey at the same time]. I felt so guilty going out and buying more kratom tonight, but now that I'm reading the benefits of tapering off, I feel a little better. I wasn't in as deep as many - dosed daily in the evening, between 4-5 grams in total each day for about 2-3 months now. Last two nights I slept pretty badly, but rather than realizing it was withdrawal, my dumbass woke up saying, "damn, kratom's really helpful for sleep!" NOT EVEN RECOGNIZING IT AS WITHDRAWAL EFFECTS!! smh

[@frankmunn6168]

You have no idea what hell is until you withdrawal from benzos.

[@Phildo117]

Exactly. Benzos or alcohol. Worst thing ever. Hallucinations, worst anxiety in the world, thinking you're about to die at any minute. Hospital was the only way I got off booze. I would have died from dt's at home.

[@419buckeye7]

I learned concrete work withdrawling from alcohol in the middle of the summer in the middle of Kentucky fucking hell with a shovel

[@debleighton4896]

Benzos are pure evil

[@xjayxo]

Try withdrawing from Fentanyl. Trust me, I've done both and coming off fentanyl is the absolute worst.

[@munky984]

Facts

[@ultraultra6726]

Please don't ever say "ok google," in any more videos... thank you. You set off every device in my home, leaving me with several open browser windows, searching "goddammit," as a search term. Lol.

[@HalfwayJac]

Ultra Ultra This comment made my day!

[@taraakins8273]

XD

[@ultraultra6726]

@Карасик Ерохин everything that is hidden will be brought to the light. I am not in fear of any of my words or actions; therefore, i do not fear being spied on. I am not involved in any covert or top secret affairs. I am simply a human. If someone decides to use my humanity against me, then i will face my persecutor with dignity and honesty, hopeful that humanity wins over the lack thereof. It is not worth it for me to live my life in a state of fear, over consequences for my actions. I prefer to act, then deal with consequence as it arises, fearlessly... from a place of power and the knowledge that i am not corrupt, and i have no regret.

[@idsofbluetigres428]

@@ultraultra6726 you will be so sorry when that time comes for you.and it will come for you

[@ultraultra6726]

@@idsofbluetigres428 while i appreciate your concern, i think it is unwarranted. If you knew me personally, you would find that I have nothing to be sorry for, and I refuse to live in regret. Consequence is something that must be embraced, whether it is good or bad.

[@barb7124]

I've been taking it for 10 years. I'm a chronic pain patient. When I dont take it, I'm in agony.

[@Polarbtw]

youre a warrior

[@kathleentate8343]

I just started it I hope it works for me

[@patrickpschaefer]

10 years for myself as well. I've taken several pharma medications for pain over the years, but nothing works better than kratom. I now take no pharmaceutical drugs for pain. keep up the good fight to keep it legal.

[@TheSteviewonderbread]

I appreciate this comment because I've been taking it for over a year now and its kept me from falling back into my old ways. Thank you.

[@saints360row]

@@patrickpschaefer, I've got to know what you were prescribed because kratom has nothing on most opiates - What was it, hydrocodone?

[@mikey100swim]

Day 7 (CT)...thank god you included that bit about taking 18 days to feel right again. I was really beginning to look outside the Kratom WDs as to wtf is going on with me, but I know I just need to keep toughing it out. The WD effects really come in waves. Yesterday and the day prior I felt absolutely great (days 5 & 6), but here we're on day 7 and I have no energy to even consider getting up out of bed. Went to the gym first thing and felt just pure lethargy. Also sick as a dog, full on head cold. But onward we go...Thank you Adam!!

[@brettparker7873]

how are you doing now?

[@loveistheanswer5924]

For me I would say the acute withdrawals last 20-30 DAYS! Then the post acute withdrawals start...

[@Lone-Wolf-Adventures]

Hey I’m off Kratom for about 20days right now. After taking everyday for 15months. The last 7 months I was taking extracts, MIT 45 white indo Boost. Only 2 to 4 pills a day. Then I tryed OMPS gold and black for bout 4 weeks which totally rocked my mind. Kratom was ruining my life. I tapered down for 2 weeks and I’m on a array to supplements now being 20 days in. CBD, GABA, Calm magnesium. And some others which help. I had direha for 3 weeks. I do a lotta running 10 to 15 miles a week which helps but not much. Like someone said in the earlier comment it comes in waves about being unmotivated. Some days are better then others. Kratom Sucks I don’t recommend it

[@livewellwitheds6885]

Kratom is the safest option to treat severe pain and insomnia issues I have, better than being a pain pill addict again

[@BigBodyBiggolo]

The problem is we know so damn little about mitragynine and 7-hydroxy-mitragynine. From everything ive read, i am pretty convinced our bodies turn it into other active and non active or lesser active opiates and some people get much stronger and more addictive by-products or just react more heavily towards the same by products. I have been using kratom for a year now and i have had times where i would take multiple times up to 18 grams a day and times were i would simply forget taking it, i would feel sleepy and tired without knowing why and i now only assume it to be the kratom but honestly im not really sure because it could be the alcohol which is the only thing i actually crave when quitting a couple days

[@RockyBaroli]

Emily McClean 💯💯💯

[@BrutallyHonest-]

Emily McClean agreed

[@saints360row]

Kratom contains mitragynine which is a partial mu agonist; the mu receptor is an opioid receptor effectively making kratom an opioid. So kratom is very much like those "pain pills" you stopped taking.

[@DropBearJroc]

@Mrs. Roper so you'd rather be dead then. Literally by what you wrote.

[@joshdenham8404]

I'd say I'm fairly addicted. Take a few grams at a time, several times per day. I was on heavy painkillers for many years, and I have found the Kratom much safer, and easier to access. Literally saved my life

[@xzysyndrome]

@apk komputer *leoCOUGHleo*

[@jimmyjaimes3844]

Amen

[@Trevor6714]

If it is still is working as intended then that's awesome man. I was on the stuff every day for about 6 months green vein. But then I noticed I started to have some strange paranoia if I didn't have it. And eventually even while dosing I could never get to that blissful feeling anymore just made me feel crazy and even lathargic after awhile. But that's what happened to me. I have no doubt that it has some really positive potential if done right

[@Trevor6714]

@Captain Fantastic Honestly after day 2 of zero dosing I started to feel like i didn't NEED it anymore. My libido was shot too, that was a major concern for me. But it too came back after like another two weeks and I have not touched it since. It's still lingers in my mind cause it's so easy to turn a shit day into something lively and colorful for like 8$. But the real trick is to make that stuff happen without substance.

[@Trevor6714]

@Captain Fantastic if that's what you feel you need to do man then alright. But listen to your body for awhile like it's needs. We all dose for different reasons. Some good some not. But if your reason is negative I would recommend slowing down and stopping. Life blows. Like it really does but that doesn't mean you have to feel like ass all the time. Sometimes you really just gotta be sober and take a good hard look at some ugly things hiding in the closet. Don't clean out the whole thing, just pick one. And it's up to you how to deal with it, but of you do it in a positive manor I promise you will see some strength not too far ahead of you. And just acknowlging the presence of it will make you feel good, but you have to use that feeling like a natural high or boost to keep pushing you forward. Things will get tougher I'm not going to lie but the feeling that you prevailed over what looked overwhelming and impossible can't be matched by any drugs.

[@chefkakarot]

Glad I found this video, I was addicted to pain killers for a long time. I finally got off of them, and have been taking Kratom for the better part of 3years. I’m now to a point where I take it 4-5 6g doses daily. Everything he said in this video is entirely real and genuine. Thanks for sharing this, it’s allowed me to realize I’ve got a problem. Now I’m gonna start to wean off. It’s gonna suck but it will be worth it.

[@fcg209]

My experience mirrors his too, and so many people are in denial. My husband does not have negative side effects but has horrible wd's without it. People need to wake up and realize this CAN happen to you.

[@aarondodson1261]

This happened to me I gave up on day 3 with work and responsibilities it felt immensely impossible

[@fcg209]

@@aarondodson1261 But we're crazy, because kratom has no withdrawals. I used to say that too 3.5 years ago. It's a great plant, but not for DAILY use. Once a week maybe.

[@boogiemcsploogie]

I'm right where you're at carson, and I really got to knock the stuff off. today I tried to cold turkey it, felt like such crap, lasted until dinner time because I still had some hanging around. It's not as bad as alcohol or oxy withdrawal certainly, but it is its own demon. Going to have to get off the stuff soon.

[@jordannewsom4578]

@@boogiemcsploogie Best of luck to you friend, give us an update comment on how your doing. I’ll tell you I’ve come off of it multiple times and the super long half life makes the symptoms drag the whole process out for like the better part of 10 or so days!! I found cold showers and a couple or three drinks on the stronger side (not enough to get drunk just get my insides warm and feel more comfortable and make me drowsy and able to actually get some good rest because if you can get a good amount of sleep, not too much just 8ish hours a night, you will do two things, make the time pass faster and feel a little better because your getting proper rest) really tame down the symptoms enough to be able to get some good sleep at night. If your not a drinker or are scarred you might accidentally replace kratom with alcohol then a good dose of NyQuil before bed after you get warm again from the cold shower will probably work just as good for getting some good sleep but it might not make you feel quite as comfortable, and we all know the WORST part of any/all withdrawals is the feeling of crawling out of your skin, like the itchy but not finding where to scratch, clothes seem to make you hot but then you shed some layers and then get too cold, not able to get comfortable in any sitting or laying position no matter how hard you try, body aches and soreness that doesn’t seem to go away even with the max doses of Motrin or other over the counter stuff, yeh that’s honestly the worst part of it imo but I mean every ones different.That and staying hydrated, drinking lots (again don’t overdue it but it will keep you warm and also give you enough energy to stay motivated throughout the day to accomplish whatever you got goin on) of strong coffee during the day and dressing in layers to shed or add during the day to keep my temp regulated because the hot/cold feelings are pretty uncomfortable as well. Hope you managed to get off it or at least tapered your dose down to a more manageable amount so the future withdrawals aren’t quite as rough. And PLEASE, give us an update comment on how your doing with it, I’d like to know how it’s going and what other methods you might have used to tame the WD symptoms!! All that being said I still use it but VERY SPARINGLY like no more than a couple three four times a week, I can’t handle going through the WDs again, it was just rough on me physically, emotionally and mentally. Hope you read this friend and hope your doing well and not on the kratom anymore or just back to a much smaller more manageable dose, take care!!

[@austincopeland6177]

Yes Kratom comes with its own set of side effects and it should be respected and used in moderation. I’m currently a daily user. I’m tapering to get down to a reasonable dose, I’m currently taking around 20-30gpd. There are in fact negative side effects including thinning hair and weight loss. I love this plant and it helped save me from a crippling alcohol addiction but I swapped one addiction for another. Now I’m attempting to get ahold of my addictive tendencies.

[@SatansSimgma]

That's alot,bro. Hairless is probably more from poor diet which also explains weight loss. Your asking your body to strain out alot already.

[@SuperSmexi96]

The fact that adam’s pushing close to 1 mil subs and still can’t even get ads on his vids is really upsetting to me, I love his videos

[@udontuna5693]

Leslie Michelle what ads can u even get on videos like this? Just thought about this lol

[@PaulybiGGballZ0820]

Leslie Michelle we are currently working on getting Adam some ads

[@SuperSmexi96]

udon tuna i don’t even know tbh, I just still feel bad ya know

[@OrangeBroom]

Good luck getting ads on a drug channel lmao

[@CrackThoseClaws]

marijuana paraphernalia, psychedelic-styled clothes, concerts, legal highs (like...alcohol) OH GOD JUST HIRE ME ALREADY I CAN FIX THE ECONOMY

[@GMCLabs]

Been taking it for 4 years, same dosage, changed my life for the better. Everyone is different. Hell someone got addicted to chewing on dryer sheets.

[@niconicito1036]

Gary Carone or eating matresses. (watch my strange addiction TLC )n. JUST WATCH LOL

[@alisonannallyallen1437]

Gary Carone kids r taking pods now for laundry.

[@jojothecuzo]

What's your dosage

[@pound4pound740]

Gary Carone true lol

[@AliMillerR]

Gary Carone Same here. Kratom is a lifesaver for me.

[@aprilcervantes7784]

I quit kratom a month ago for the second time. This time I got rid of all the stored up kratom I had in the house. I noticed even though the kratom helped me with some pain, I ended up with more pain in other parts of my body. If it works for you great, but my withdrawals lasted 2 weeks. I don't want to be a slave to a substance. I'm glad I made it through. God bless!!

[@junioro.1422]

Its just another drug

[@scarsrodriguez869]

Not a “slave”. Better than ever. Good luck on your journey! It’s another day in paradise! 💚

[@junioro.1422]

@Alexander Supertramp what else is there to say?

[@blazeit505]

Lol @ a two week withdraw. I withdrew for four months from alprazlam before I threw in the towel and reinstated my meds

[@toxicmorbosa2414]

What do you mean you're happier without pain treatment? I don't feel the addition part.

[@adams8152]

When I was withdrawing, I felt so isolated from the complete lack of info online. Thank you for making this

[@bradencline7138]

we need you in a podcast with joe rogan

[@ffgggkok]

Fr that would be fucking great right lol

[@bradencline7138]

Tto F it would be revolutionary

[@usernamewastaken4829]

He mailed him but he didnt answer afaik

[@Percsandperks]

As awesome as that interview would be, joe has been landing A List celebrities lately. I don't think he would bite

[@jjhack3r]

That would be the best ever podcasts...

[@watchmerise15]

I’ve been watching this video for a good 8 minutes thinking this dude had no legs and he was just a torso chilling on the couch

[@calltheriot]

Lmao that's great

[@Shelbsalexis]

😂😂😂

[@mikemorrow8760]

Lol

[@scottyacosta713]

Hahahahah i cant breathe!

[@idsofbluetigres428]

Fffff. In lmmao

[@gabriellebock7325]

I love that you dont care what we think, like that your reports opinions and how-to's arnt influenced by wether or not people will like or accept them, its your real, un bias to your viewers preference, truth. That makes you trust worthy (not only in the information you give but in being straight up if something changes), creditable and respectable

[@iLeviathan]

gabrielle bock All it does is prevent him from giving objective factual information. This was a subjective video where he click baited the safety profile of kratom.

[@iLeviathan]

gabrielle bock And he seems to care very much considering he managed to write several paragraph long posts in response to me then never answered most of the responses.

[@breakspeare45]

I sort agree with you about the paragraphs long response without answering the direct question. I "tried" to watch one of his videos about Ayahuasca, but it was so rambling and not-really-informative, that I just had to move on. It seemed based on opinion and not really research. But his overall rambling tone was that the viewer should absolutely agree with his warnings. My theory is that he loves to hear himself talk, assumes a high-level of sel-importantance, and wants to be some hero-type. Sorry for all of the hyphens.

[@youknowwhatithink]

I was shitting water, the worst fatigue, a massive headache, fluctuating temperature, couldn’t eat, my kidneys were on fire. The withdrawal is so real.

[@bretclaar1663]

How strong of a dose?

[@Tyler_Rogers]

@@bretclaar1663I’m also curious. How has your journey been?

[@EncourageLegacy]

Was it worth it? Honestly, sometimes this stuff really helps. I won't talk it down because of me having abused it.

[@volkiwolfsgaard8306]

I was taking 5 OPMS black extracts a day. Miserable withdrawal. Fuck kratom

[@bizmonkey007]

Kratom could be the antidote to the opioid epidemic, and I mean that with no hyperbole.

[@redriver6541]

It's not really. I understand you like it (or maybe need pain management) but the real way is to develop pain meds or devices that aren't addictive. I have a feeling with the tech and health fields making strides that something is around the corner.

[@UrbanClimber]

@@redriver6541 it's impossible to create something non addictive, if something will make you feel less pain it will make you feel less existential pain and yeah thats basicly addiction. It's just stupid to use one thing to fight against existential pain, it's way more effective to use Multiple things.

[@Epck]

@@UrbanClimber yes

[@ThisAlphaWolf]

@@redriver6541 As an person with intractable chronic pain, I have done a lot of research on this subject. I wanted to believe that they could just roll something out. They do have a pain medication only available by intrathecal pump and only by a handful of technicians trained to fill them that contain a non-addictive pain medication derived from sea snail venom but it is currently cost prohibitive, not widely available due to having to have a tech trained to handle it and it requires a very invasive surgery to implant the pump. These factors would rule out the majority of pain patients due to cost or risk due to the surgery alone, even if everyone knew how to fill the pumps. Aside from that, we are looking at waiting for them to find a suitable compound that is non-addictive that could be used on the majority of the pain patient population, then another 10 years or so for clinical trials. I am going off of information provided by doctors that asked the same questions about this. Personally, if I had to wait 10+ years to get relief, I'd be dead long before it got here. I've been reduced on my medications to nothing, although I have cardiac issues that are exacerbated by uncontrolled pain and even though I was on them for years, as well as in counseling as a safe guard (my idea) to watch for addiction issues. Never had a dirty UA. Never had any potentially problematic issues signifying addiction or misuse. Because they CAN be addictive, I was set to live the rest of my most probably short life, in terrible pain that will never go away or calm down. When I tried Kratom, tentatively at first, I cried. I freaking bawled my eyes out because I got relief and it gave me back some of what my daily pain levels had stolen from me and what I have been denied due to what MIGHT happen with the medications. Some semblance of having a life. And let me tell you something, that might sound cliche, but until a person loses having any semblance of a life, it is incredibly difficult to imagine the full scope and magnitude of what that really means. For me, it's like being hit, dragged and run over all over again and then set on fire. Every day. That is, if I can manage to sleep or it's all one long day. If they weren't smart enough to give us a non-addictive alternative before yanking the meds, they could at least let us have Kratom until they can provide that. Especially with pain patients opting to commit suicide, having major health events and dying or turning to heroin to look for relief because they left us high and dry. They could at least have the decency to do that.

[@jbeezostl]

@@redriver6541 anything you like can become an addiction. anything your body senses as positive can become an addiction.

[@violinsinthevoid4579]

I love Kratom and it saved my life. That said, I got seriously hooked on it. Getting off of it was very difficult. There are always trade offs in life.

[@yemzik4748]

Yep bcs they take heroin before so that it helped them, you probably didn't take opiates so it seems like a nightmare to you, but having a withdrawals from opiates is even worse

[@violinsinthevoid4579]

@@yemzik4748 I can't even imagine, but I certainly trust that is true from what I've read and seen friends go through.

[@jamiespaur161]

Yep. Anything that gives you a head change can be addictive. If you live with acute or chronic severe pain the trade off is a no brainer compared to opiates.

[@adhdmonster1369]

"There are no solutions, only trade offs." -Thomas Sowell

[@darthlouis3418]

This is the most important point. Just because it has withdrawals does not mean it's a terrible drug that should be illegal. It's an incredibly safe drug to use in moderation, and extremely effective in helping people get off harder opiates.

[@sk8orhate55]

Man I have to comment again. I just wish I found this video 2 years ago. Thank you for making this video. I can't thank you enough. Desperation is a son of a gun

[@shuhnellx]

I just watched his old video on K from 5yrs ago and now watching this. Crazy how far he’s come, good shit! Love these educational drug videos 👏🏼

[@linusbrendel]

Not seeing any ads on this video unfortunately. 😞 Edit: Checked on my phone a couple of times. This bullshit censorship really sucks.

[@mycelia_ow]

Linus Brendel, you won't see ads every time.

[@linusbrendel]

Xero Oh okay. Do you think this might also be a regional thing?

[@halolime117]

Watching this on my phone, no ads :/

[@rad1calracoon713]

Like a lime no ads on my phone either :(

[@CodyTheDankMemer]

I saw ad on pc

[@archeng2764]

Kratom has done nothing but benefit my life, I had severe anxiety and depression and it helped me a ton.

[@stressedbutblessedmomma7792]

It is the only thing that has kept my crippling anxiety away. So bad so I was suicidal. I’ve tried every anxiety / depression Med and it only made it worse. It has saved my life. I think about my liver a lot lately but I’m too scared to stop and go back to my severe anxiety attacks.

[@Rocko1990]

Yeah, opiates will certainly take your depression & anxiety away

[@saucysetsdunn469]

Until you take it for 4 years like me shit starts to give you major sti infections

[@Sahbab11]

@@saucysetsdunn469 people like you will blame their store bought honey on giving them an STI before admitting it was their decisions. Kratom does not give you sexually transmitted infections bozo stop spreading bs

[@gringodelsur7971]

@@saucysetsdunn469 that has no correlation whatsoever

[@lilithpowers9686]

I've taken kratom for over 3 years, I even grow it now. Kratom is a blessing, I'm in recovery and it has helped me so much.

[@Kahnradical]

Where'd you buy your plant? I've been looking to grow one of my own but am unsure of the best place to start.

[@seb9940]

@@Kahnradical highly depends on where you live, because in many parts of the world it is impossible to grow the plant outside

[@nicolaypastore]

you haven't grew a tolerance

[@jonathankissee4438]

How do you get trees of kratom

[@jonathankissee4438]

I live in Oregon

[@izzydog771]

Love the content. I went ham on the stuff for the last 6 months. 10 days off now. 10 miserable, obsessive, anxiety ridden days. But it’s getting better. Hope all is well

[@diannawalker758]

I take a small amount every night, for Restless Leg Syndrome. It's the only thing that has ever worked. I've had no urges to increase my dose. I've never had to increase it to keep the restless leg syndrome away. I've run out of it before, and never felt any withdrawal symptoms. Kratom is different for each individual.

[@BodyRibbonz]

What is the name of your avatar?

[@forgotenhatred]

Just eat bananas more regular. Restless leg syndrome is a potassium deficiency

[@videosofinterest9227]

genominteresgenome interesting. Ima research what u state.i have it and it sucks

[@DeltaTeamX]

not really, taking a small amount once per day won't cause any withdrawals.

[@9BlooCheez2]

@@forgotenhatred op: I've tried everything! U: eat more bananas. U clearly have not tired it Restless leg syndrome for people who have it chronically are not saved by extra bananas lmao take it from someone who has it

[@conjunctionfunctions]

I felt like crying after the 2nd day of quiting, just ultra emotional and sensitive, leg cramps, tired like id taken a sleeping pill, brutal withdrawal.

[@tokyoniftingyeatur6890]

Yea I cried for the first time in years lol

[@rocknroll909]

There is such a heavy, unavoidable feeling of sadness that comes in waves the first couple of days. Going through it now

[@tokyoniftingyeatur6890]

@@rocknroll909 I'm on day 20 and I've mostly stabilized but I do still get those waves that wash over me. Mind you, I was on a massive dosage like psychedsubstance for years and I'm skinny 140 lbs. It took about a week to get out of that dark place but I think it will be another week or two to feel normal again. Fuck kratom

[@rocknroll909]

@@tokyoniftingyeatur6890 hey, how are you doing now? Feeling better?

[@bighex5340]

Same here. I feel like (in my experience!) Kratom sort of sets up a dam on your emotions, good or bad. I used it for chronic pain and it was wonderful not feeling that all the time, but... I never felt too much emotions either. I'd feel a sorta sad here, a little happy there, but I didn't really FEEL it, idk how to describe it. I only quit after a few months because I realized it was numbing my emotions, and like you mentioned, I felt them after the dam got taken down haha. Cried really hard for the first time in a while, but after the w/d I felt happier than I had in those months as well. Good times lol, I'm not advocating against it however, because I know how helpful it can be as well

[@curtismartin9054]

Better alternative then Alcohol... helped me quit drinking.

[@MetalHolster]

Loose Change9 me too man...I was destroying myself with alcohol...until I found kratom...now I'm a reliably productive member of society since turning 21...(I'm 30 now)

[@larrytate1657]

Do you still use a Kratom though?

[@GodofLovers]

Same man. Is rather have kratom withdrawals than alcoholic withdrawals.

[@juliousdavis8105]

Loose Change9 Yeah why is it that schools don't teach alcohol to be just as bad as the hard drugs once addicted. In my opinion alcohol is just as bad as heroin if a person becomes heavily addicted. Obviously some people can just a have a drink once in a while but it's the people who get addicted that struggle just as bad as a herion addict. But hey the government is making a ass ton of money taxing it so it is taught in schools to be more socially acceptable. Just like nicotine actually being the #1 most addictive substance. They didn't teach us that but since the government makes billions it's downplayed in school as just a bad habit that causes cancer. Hopefully one day the government realizes how much more money they can get from taxing weed and then that will be socially acceptable too which we are already seeing in a ton of states.

[@curtismartin9054]

PsychedSubstance is correct about Kratom. Becareful with it. I quit drinking alcohol, and replaced it with about 8g of Kratum 3 hours before bed. Everynight. After a few months, my stomach couldn't handle it. Horrible pain. However, I lowered the dose to around 4g, and drank a ton of water throughout the day. So far, the negative side effects have gone away. Kratum is a godsend. Just make sure you dose correctly. Thanks for the thumbs up and replies.

[@thorkildecliveland]

Kratom saved my life. Got me off opiates and then I did a slow taper with a scale reducing once a week (250 mgs at a time) until I was done. NEVER an uncomfortable moment. Something I could have NEVER done with pharmaceuticals or street opiates. KRATOM SAVES LIVES.

[@sarahdonenonly9963]

Thank you, I now feel as if I CAN do this and not have to call out of work to clean up the mess I made within myself. ❤

[@collingriga1819]

I did 5 grams of kratom twice a day for about a year. I just got a runny nose from withdrawals. Really shows how different everyone’s brain chemistry is

[@GRAITOM]

Yea I was at 18 grams almost everyday for a year. and the only symptoms to report were insomnia and of course some cravings for relief from my back pain. I had to quit because money problems, times are tough these days.

[@Jonqen]

Thats a low dose though

[@psychoticbreaks167justletm4]

5 grams is a pretty low dose. I got up to around 30 a day for 6 months. Ran out one day not thinking much of it and wound up in such bad shape there was no way I could be seen outside. It was that bad. Couldnt be still, felt like muscle wanted to tear from bone if I did. Felt like my chest was exploding. Hot and cold, dripping sweat. Emotional rollercoaster. Couldnt think complete sentences. Naaasty withdrawals. Super heavy duty for me.

[@GRAITOM]

@@psychoticbreaks167justletm4 whoa, thats an absurd amount!!! never heard of a 30 gpd habit. glad you firgured everything out. and yes there are gonna be withdrawals because it hits opiod receptors.

[@GRAITOM]

@@psychoticbreaks167justletm4 also 5 grams is the average dose, saying it is low can be very misleading to a new user.

[@edgarhuiltron]

I just take about 2.5 - 3 grams 3-4 times a week. Sometime I forget about it until my back pain kicks in.

[@TheRedGlint4427]

I don't know how people can get through the withdrawal at work. The fatigue is no joke and he's not even close to exaggerating it.

[@cheesepownsu]

Dude...I tried to get off back in September cold turkey...that day was the worst day I ever had. I wanted to die. I worked a 9-5 back then. I’ve been 5 days clean NOW cold turkey it it’s 100x easier Becuase I don’t have any real obligations rn other than to get sober. I’m fortunate enough to live at home and I made a comfortable amount of money from crypto to sustain myself. But best of luck to you

[@Aceidic]

Everytime I don’t have it and I have to go to work it’s like I have a terminal illness. My back and body aches excruciatingly and I feel sick. It is nearly impossible to work without it.

[@TheRedGlint4427]

Honestly his testimony hardly does it justice as to how bad it is. I'm seeking professional outpatient therapy and if that doesn't work I'm literally going to have to go to rehab. This shit should be illegal and I'm not afraid to say it. It's way too available and there's too much misinformation out there and people (such as myself) will make the mistake of underestimating it especially kids like when I started

[@PlasticStrws]

Shit I take like 10 hydro codones on my two days off. Go back to work on Monday snd I just wanna sleep

[@alexscheffer7641]

At my first quit attempt i also couldn't imagine how people would go to work while in withdrawals. However the second time i tried to withdraw was so urgent and there was NO WAY for me to get some days off (as a professional mover). I suceeded and tbh in retrospect i'd say that you will feel horrible anyway, no matter if you can lie in bed or have to do physical labour. At least this is what i figured out for me, there is no 'real' remedy for the withdrawals except time imho. And After returning home i even felt some comfort in just 'sitting' or getting back into my bed. Not sure i could handle it if i'd have to work directly with people though. In this state you just want to not talk to people... ;p So i'd say, you can if you have to. It might be hell, but the fear is worse than the real thing.

[@Youtube304s]

Unlike many drugs, kratom is cool because you can cut the dose in half and not feel bad at least in my experience. I typically take 3g twice a day. If I cut that to 1.5g it's no problem. I've done 12g in a day and had no problem cutting back. The trick is not chasing the euphoric effects. That's where you get in trouble.

[@alexc7857]

I live by kratom, it's meant I can be free of dibilitating pain so I can work and earn, it's suppressed my social anxiety so much so that I've been able to make friends and not feel on-edge around people and also having severe depression it's helped me beyond belief. However I wish I did not need kratom as I do feel less motivated, more tired, and at times fairly dazed, not quite feeling 100% with it but I live by it as I cant live without it, and for that I am grateful for kratom, daily user for 2 years.

[@Reeceee]

Alex C which strain?

[@christopherhoward4083]

I find this statement true for most of my friends and family who are daily users for 2 years now.

[@alexwalter9819]

strain

[@koengrams8833]

@holywater man you gotta switch up the strains each time (besides maybe consistently using red strain for sleep) i get a kilo with four 250 gs of different strains say any white, red, yellow, and green, go through one 250g bag of and then goto the next. keeps the tolerance to each strain fairly manageable and by the time you've cycled back to a strain the tolerance is gone or greatly diminished

[@tristaningram945]

So it's another crutch!!

[@89reasons4steeze]

Okay so he was taking 4× the recommended dosage every day, that explains that

[@adamnetolicky210]

After some time you simply cannot take the same dosage. Looks like youve actually never had kratom.

[@ethan-kr3ob]

@@adamnetolicky210 just for Your infirmation, Kratom tolerance has a ceiling. Means that as an experienced user the needed doasge doesn't rise into oblivion but sets to a certain dosage.

[@ikarynlife507]

Not to mention taking uppers and downers at the same time is never a good idea

[@penetrationskommentar877]

Chase Bates did you actually copy the „x“ symbol?

[@joey9511]

@@adamnetolicky210 I've taken the same amount for 2 or 3 years now. 3 grams a dose no more then 3 times a day usually only twice

[@goodintentionslifecoaching]

I love Kratom ! Unfortunately my kidneys and liver stated hurting after 7 months of it. Got so bad my back was hurting from my liver and kidneys I almost went to the hospital. I stop and in 24 hours my back started feeling much better. My hair started thinning also which sucks. So I’m stepping back from kratom for these reasons. Also I have become almost anorexic/bulimic due to Kratom. Throwing up is a huge problem with kratom. Everyone throws up on it. Then your stomach has to be empty to take it. So you basically never have food in your stomach. Gave me a shit ton of energy when I wasn’t sick or dizzy. It was a gamble every time I used it. Either I was happy and bouncing off the wall or I felt like I was dying. So it is risky. It will help you get off opioid addiction but then you left addicted to kratom. So choose your poison people. Just cold turkey go through the dying feeling for a day or two. Then start going for walks or exercise when you start mentally craving your drug. It does work if you want it to work. Lots of chicken soup and EXERCISE. Sweat that poison out and get over your addiction faster. You’re going to feel like dying the first 2-3 days. Then after your body goes through withdrawals your mental state will need help too it’s a habit so it like clockwork. You have to break that pattern with exercise or meditation. It will drive you crazy but after about 1-3 weeks the mental patterns are broken. So that’s why Exercise is important because it give you a learned new pattern. Every time you have a bad thought go outside and walk until your anxiety is back down. There will be many walks trust me. Fortunately this is a healthy pattern so now your brain is being rewired. It takes time people and you have to want it. Say and doing are two different things. Love,light,peace and harmony people. Get off all that crap and live your best life! Being high all the time makes you look stupid especially in public. It wasn’t until I was off opioids and witnessed other people on opioids and I realized how stupid I actually looked when I was on them. You don’t realize it because you’re so fucking high you think you’re floating on top of the world. In actuality people around you really do know if you’re on drugs. You look and act like it. Just telling the truth people! Get off of your pills or whatever you’re on. Then go in public find somebody else that is on something (drugs)and you’ll see what I’m talking about. You look fucking stupid and I used to look stupid too! People know! Get your life right! Your fucking up and living like cockroaches in your homes. You rather buy drugs then actually take care of your home or yourself along with your children. Wake up! Time to live the nice life with money instead of living off McDonald’s dollar sandwiches.

[@lspbeautea4791]

Handicapped Henry 💯 this! ❤️

[@BearScowe]

Handicapped Henry If you don’t mind me asking, did your hair thicken up again after quitting? I am quitting tomorrow (after several failed attempts, but I am literally flat broke until next week so I have no choice.) But, other than the Kratom breaking my bank, the hair loss has been a HUGE reason that I’m quitting. I read on Reddit that one girl’s hair regrew after quitting. That possibility is a big motivator for me to give this shit up. Thank You for your honest comment btw. ☺️

[@parabellum1002]

JarediahScott you’re not asking me but it does. However, it takes about 8 months :( but it will be just as thick as it was before in time.

[@BearScowe]

Lil Kim Thank You so much!! 😊 I appreciate your response. That definitely makes me hopeful.

[@iscuit]

I've been sober from kratom for 3 months, I used to take it every day on and off for almost 2 years, I still don't feel normal. I still have PAWS (lingering withdrawal symptoms). Not worth it!!!!!

[@TommyGetTheJewels]

My withdraws lasted about 3 days that were noticeable... I had ZEROOO energy for 2 days.. Flat lined , Headache, Sore, Stiff, No appetite... By day 4 I was pretty much ok and I was feeling normal again... Any sort of self maintenance can be a slippery slope... Shout out to all of you, be safe!!!!

[@ryan-zx6xx]

Rest in peace friend

[@richardlawson6787]

I can relate to the zero energy or motivation...took me six weeks to get to normal energy and motivation...but weed took all the other bad symptoms away ..

[@royronson3275]

I took Kratom for about a 4 month period everyday. I quit for a month and experienced zero withdrawal symptoms. None at all.

[@AmyandScott]

Roy Ronson he's never had a real addiction to compare it to.. Lost a ton of respect for him with this sell out.. -scott

[@sethlouis675]

Roy Ronson I took it for a year and had no withdrawals when I stopped

[@parker8016]

Withdrawals come when you dose multiple times a day.

[@bigcrackrock]

Multiple times most days since 2011 and when I forget to take it before heading off to work I get through my 8+ hour days just fine. A slight loss in energy but nothing to write home about. I'm open to certain people maybe having side effects from it but too many people have had the same experience I've had to pretend it's the norm. The benefit I've gotten from it outweighs the negatives for sure. It's also pretty mild in its effects for anybody who hasn't tried it and thinks it some super scary hard narcotic.

[@frankfrederick2909]

Not me I got all sick. Took 10mg methadone and felt better 3 days later

[@MrPaultiwanger]

I will take Kratom as long as it's legal I have body arthritis my body hurts so bad every day that I would have to take a strong opiate to not hurt just to have a normal day taking a couple of grams of Kratom in the morning with my coffee makes it so I can make it through the day without being in such a credible pain that all I want to do is sit in the chair and rock and cry I think I'll go with the kratom

[@Seargent_Scraps]

Well yeah, if he promotes Kratom he won't get paid by ad revenue and his videos will get deleted eventually. It's been happening to a lot of videos lately.

[@ThePeacePlant]

just be careful.i quit this year as well. it does have withdrawals when you abuse this plant but its nothing like legit opiates or other medicines. When i started having slight withdrawal when not taking it and ending up more depressed i decided to quit but it was easier for me because at that time i just found a marijuana hook up and i just smoked everyday until the withdrawals were done. the marijuana helped big time, it was like i had almost zero withdrawals except for diarrhea and a slight dissociated feeling.

[@Seargent_Scraps]

Kratom has so many different strains and potencies which makes the withdrawal vary by a lot. Also people who toss n wash and don't measure have no idea how much they're really taking. Some places mix chemicals into their Kratom too, addictive stuff.

[@FrantiC119]

I was at over one kilo of kratom a month at one point(Up to 10-15mg a day multiple times a day). The problem with it isn't that it has any real negative effects at reasonable starting doses, but that you can easily build to ridiculous levels because of the lack of clear negative effects other than loss of potency. I think this a lot to do from not being able to discern when you're using kratom as a medication and when you're using it to get high. You probably won't build too much tolerance if you're only using kratom to combat pain, anxiety, or as a coffee like pick-me-up. The point is though at SOME point anything you put in your body will have a negative effect. It doesn't really matter what it is and at that dose I was at I was seeing serious negative effects in my mind's ability to regulate normal bodily functions. I was urinating in really bizarre frequencies and had a ridiculous sleep pattern. I also saw huge peaks and drops in energy levels for no discernible reason. The biggest effect was probably the depression though. How much that was because of the lack of sleep and weird energy I don't know, but I also felt like if I wasn't currently dosed then I would almost immediately enter withdrawal or within a couple of hours.

[@MrsOx-ej6kn]

Frantick I take extreme high amount of 2 different pain meds daily and have for 11 years due to 2 serve injuries and I can’t have the rest of the surgeries and need as I’m allergic to the GA.. so if I wanted to try this what are your recommendations on where to buy it and how much to use

[@HorseArmour]

I just came off of Kratom after almost 4 years of constant use. I'm pretty sure I was addicted. The withdrawals were INSANE. Diarrhea, freezing cold whilst sweating, couldn't eat, couldn't find the energy to do anything. Stopping it has been a great thing though, starting to feel like my old self.

[@jhyland87]

You dont get it... Google/YT doesnt really care if you follow the guidelines. Its pretty arbitrary on who they decide to screw over

[@randyhawthorne7730]

Not arbitrary at all.. Conservatives.

[@bryanbroacosta]

Randy Hawthorne nope, truth seekers, they won’t ban conservatives who don’t speak information dangerous to powers

[@randyhawthorne7730]

@@bryanbroacosta ....very true. Like an old man wearing orthopedic shoes, I stand corrected.

[@thecampfire4877]

As someone that was addicted to heroin for 6 years, and is now 4 years clean, thanks to kratom, the withdrawals from heroin are unimaginably worse than any other.

[@cristianaguilar3925]

Why u bullshitting

[@jakeshaw6827]

Did it really get you off of gear? I wish someone would do some research on kratom. I would hate to leave my methadone clinic to go take something that doesnt work.

[@cristianaguilar3925]

@@jakeshaw6827 kratom will work give it a try 👍

[@jakeshaw6827]

@@cristianaguilar3925 I would, but it's illegal in my state and I would have to jump through hoops to get it. I really dont want to deal with all of that nonsence.

[@cristianaguilar3925]

@@jakeshaw6827 that sucks i didn't know it was illegal in your country I can get it from smoke shops lol

[@MackenzieNerdyEMT]

I genuinely appreciate your videos. Your honesty and point blank but logical approach to things is very refreshing. I can guarantee you have saved many people whether that be from overdose or simply from assuming something is automatically safe simply because its natural.

[@xxakwardxx1336]

Michael Sauner 😂

[@MackenzieNerdyEMT]

Michael Sauner good question! Him being married is kinda a downfall though. Darn :p

[@rocknrollboise]

He hasn't saved anyone from a Kratom overdose because you literally cannot physically overdose from the leaf.

[@MackenzieNerdyEMT]

I was speaking in general not just on the topic of kratom :)

[@lucidfuture7363]

I'm pretty sure he himself believes that because something is natural its safe to take. He said in the video that's how he started on kratom.

[@Spencer.M.]

hands down, this is the most affective and informative video on addiction I have ever seen. The point you make @13:35 was wonderful

[@sylvanzylstra4623]

Ironic that this video had an ad for a pharmaceutical company in front of it.

[@DustyinBFE]

Not at all. It's personalized marketing directed toward you alone.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

My ex went from being an opiate addict to kratom addict to treat his back pain (but also been a long user of such drugs recreationally), which I felt was a much better thing to make that switch (and still do), BUT, I grew so tired of him having ZERO sex drive, having temper problems (getting angry and verbally attacking me over nothing), and yes - he got his first kidney stone (which he passed). It takes him eons to take a piss, which he does sitting down because of it. He went from biking every day to work and being fit, to never biking and getting a massive gut. He gets nauseous often too, particularly when he takes the stuff on an empty stomach. I was with him for the better part of 15 years. It really sucks that a substance alone can ruin a relationship, but it did. I still love and miss him, and always will I am sure, but I can’t hang with the side effects of his habit. It’s keeping him from being himself, and I fell in love with his old self.

[@HjCrawford]

Dang 🤨

[@jasonjones4036]

Similar for us- well, me now

[@brandoncarroll3498]

I’ve been through every addiction from booz, meth, heroine just to name a few and have been clean for 15 years. Being very experienced with withdrawals and dependency I’m very conscious of what substances or even herbs I put into my body. To get to the point after watching your first video and others who support the use of kratom I considered it but with this follow up explanation it’s a hard no. Thanks man for being transparent and honest these are classic symptoms of opiate abuse I absolutely have zero interest of going back down that path!

[@n.w.f7265]

Dude take it someone who’s currently in the middle of a brutal taper: don’t! I was addicted to pain pills and was sober for about a year before I got into kratom. I believed I could get opiate effects without the downsides, boy was I fucking wrong. Kratom may be physically safer but when it comes to the progression of addiction and withdrawals, it’s all the same shit. You made a good choice dude

[@loveistheanswer5924]

@@n.w.f7265 right the withdrawals are HORRIBLE! 😭😭😭

[@lolsloppy]

@@loveistheanswer5924 going through them right now from fucking TAPERING. TAPERING!!!

[@superman9693]

There is no meth withdrawal.

[@gristamshackleford2102]

@@superman9693 yea there is. dont be stupid. its just not AS bad as opiates or benzo's. people can get withdrawls from anything that causes a change in your body

[@johnnapier1892]

Here's the ONE thing that's made me move on quitting kratom - HAIR LOSS. I've had a LOT of people confirm the same thing has happened to them. Anybody else have this side effect? I'm weening myself off of kratom now and it's tough for me. I'm the kind of person who just can't stand hanging out with himself. I've always been able to put on the brakes when I'm partying but I have to have my warm, cozy head space every day. I'm pretty close to done now, but it seems like this final yard is the toughest.

[@Windshieldchoke]

I’m 22 I’m a daily user, I have thinned up top a lot the last year, my prostate has also had issues from the excessive use, it changed my hormones so it is with you too, it’s reversible you can get your hair to thicken up but we gotta get off this crap or switch to a different strain and take way less way frequently.

[@johnnapier1892]

@@Windshieldchoke huh, that’s interesting. I’ve managed to get it down to 6 grams a day for the last few months but it’s still not quite enough. I use Maeng Da, are there more benign strains?

[@Windshieldchoke]

@@johnnapier1892 I don’t wanna give you the wrong advice brother, I’m hopping on gold Bali, I think you’ll be ok with what your doing now, just don’t take the one when you noticed hair loss again because that was the one doing bad stuff to you as this one was with me

[@johnnapier1892]

@@Windshieldchoke No worries, my friend. I appreciate any advice. I guess I’ll try Gold Bali since I’ve been doing Maeng Da during most of the hair loss

[@Windshieldchoke]

@@johnnapier1892 maeng da was what did these harmful effects to me I’m putting the pieces together gold Bali never did anything bad to me. Definitely go with the Gold, if you got any problems send me a comment and I’ll try to help you

[@bugnut82]

I have severe OCD, and I started taking this stuff and it's helped me a lot so far. My wife has noticed I am nicer and happier when I take it. I feel happier too.

[@justinboukis1636]

Take breaks from that shit. Withdrawal symptoms are a real thing if you take it everyday for awhile.

[@kelpking4484]

Lead bro look it up you might not wanna take it at all

[@MemoryCircle]

@@justinboukis1636 Yes, it is important to take breaks from Kratom or any similar substance. Yet, the synthetic drugs prescribed by physicians are not without their drawbacks, either.

[@2cleverbyhalf]

@@justinboukis1636 Anything can have withdrawal symptoms for some people. A coffee withdrawal is one of the most painful things I have ever experienced. And I have quit smoking so I should know

[@lwylie1]

“Quitting kratom” is an awesome subreddit support group for those who choose the cold turkey, or tapering route. Lots of love support and horror stories. Thanks for your balanced truth!!!

[@liquidreality472]

Yes.

[@andrewruchards7611]

I’m always confused by people claiming kratom withdrawal... I’ve used kratom heavily for 2-3 months and then quit for months at a time... absolutely nothing... I had more issues giving up coffee. I’m not trying to down play what others are going through but I’ve never experienced anything like that

[@highpsi7463]

Long time kratom user. Just had 2 months off cold turkey. No dramas

[@TheItalianTrash]

@@highpsi7463 14 year kratom user for chronic pain. I've only had severe withdrawals less than 5 times, and every time it was below freezing outside. I've never had any withdrawals when it's warm outside. I wonder if the weather plays a role or just a coincidence?

[@highpsi7463]

@@TheItalianTrash hard to tell. I live in Melbourne. The weathers up and down. Nothing really consistent. When you say serious withdrawals. What do you mean? If I stop taking it. I literally stop with no changes

[@ikarynlife507]

Kratom saved my life. I was in chronic pain and have used this hand in hand with CBD or cannabis.

[@Zebracorn46]

Me too! I have Ehler-Danlos and am anaphylactic to most Opiates/Opioids and can't take NSAIDS long term.

[@good6894]

If you want to "reverse" the negative effects, benadryl will do this. Unfortunately this also means one can take Kratom over and over again and not get sick. Take Kratom, then take a few benadryl, and an hour'ish later all the bad effects caused by too much kratom will go away. Careful with the benadryl though, too much can also be extremely unpleasant for a good 10 to 30 minutes. Fortunately, if you do overdose on benadryl, taking Kratom will "totally" fix this lol

[@jackrobinson5974]

@@good6894 I've been dosing with kratom for a few months. Trying to get off something 6-8 times stronger then morphine called Levorphanol; 14mg per day. Now cutting down from the kratom I feel like shit. Are you saying benadryl will help?? And how much? I've been using about 5grams of kratom 3x per day. Thanks, Please....

[@ikarynlife507]

@mike hunt I've been taking it daily for a year and I'm fine and in better health then a year ago. So thanks but unless you're my medical team shove it.

[@ikarynlife507]

@Don't worry about it I did a years worth of research before I picked it up. I also consulted my medical team. So since you all cannot say anything with out name calling this is the last you'll hear from me. Bye Felicia

[@Silent_Shadow]

After 8 years of cancer treatments, and pain medications....Kratom saved me from being stuck on pain meds, helped me get off of them. I do not abuse Kratom by any means. When used carefully and in moderation it has a purpose. But like most things people will abuse it. It is addictive and can have very negative effects if not taken responsibly.

[@HumanScourgeYT]

Thank you for your honesty in this video. I am wholeheartedly in support of Kratom as I am a former heroin and pill addict so I am probably a bit biased, but everything has its pros and cons and i appreciate your unbiased approach to this video.

[@ajperko9490]

I started using it in 2014, I'm a 49 year old male in excellent condition, I can run 3 miles in about 27 minutes and bench just under 300 lbs. I take it almost every day multiple times. I have quit several times over the years for a few weeks at a time just to check and see if I was "addicted"- I was really tired and a bit miserable for about 2 days- yeah, 2 days, where I slept a lot.- but because I work a job that requires me to stand for hours at a time, my knees ache, I don't really feel like taking pain killers, my life is better with it.- Honestly, I wouldn't quit during the middle of the work week because my energy levels do plummet, but frankly I'm not seeing a good reason to quit it improves my quality of life. I imagine I could do a full no Kratom, no coffee, no energy drink, no pre work, no medication of any kind for a week as kind of an experiment, but after 6 years I think I would have noticed if Kratom was bad for me

[@clytnjms]

My experience is almost the exact same. It makes my cardio workouts better and way more fun too.

[@Jdalio5]

I can bench uder 300lbs also and im 12, never tryed kratom or any drug...but congrats though!

[@IncredibleIceCastle]

If you feel like you can’t work without it you’re dependent on it. Lucky for you (and me), it’s like the safest drug to be dependent on

[@MeerkatMoon]

I am addicted to Kratom. I have zero motivation. My emotions are very absent as well. I have no sex drive, am very depressed, have no appetite, suffer insomnia and am very scared. I hope i can quit as soon as possible. I wish i never started taking Kratom.

[@Masterpain33]

see, I have all that right now with no addiction of any drug. Should i take kratom?

[@skyborax5159]

you have the strength to

[@truhawaii5957]

Take a hydrocodone it will help the kratom withdraw! Lol

[@LeeXuan88]

magnesium.. l-theanine... aswagandha... tyrosin... you gonna be back to normal in less than 3 months.. kratom physical wd last for 7-12days.. the mental wd's last for 2-3 months..

[@CoomerGremlinDGGfan]

I used to feel like you but then i started taking kratom. I feel much better than before.

[@DrDuckMD]

I take kratom daily because I’d rather take kratom than a mphetamines due to my adhd. I was once prescribed aderall 2 times a day. I now take kratom 2 times a day and it’s just as effective. It’s definitely addictive but so are the medications that have been prescribed to me.

[@toxicmorbosa2414]

Kratom saved me from crippling pain. I can't go back to being miserable.

[@BuddhaChew]

I suffer from neuropathy, no pharmacy meds came close to relieving the pain. I take kratom daily, and I have my life back without pain. I don’t over use kratom, I take it only to be out of the same crippling pain you spoke about. 👍👍👍

[@toxicmorbosa2414]

@@BuddhaChew yes only take what you need that's what I do.

[@trustenbaker8766]

@@BuddhaChew Well how do you take it?

[@jarodwoolcox87]

dont limit yourself

[@trustenbaker8766]

@@JohnSmith0010 That comes from a person who’s never had enough pain to need it. You’ve never had enough pain to need it. And you think that fact makes you strong. That pisses me off.

[@frydemwingz]

"Im never going to feel happiness ever again" damn. I already think that sometimes.

[@hawk_202]

Many people do and its just awful, it makes you so thankful when you do finally get that moment of true happiness that shows you it isnt true and gives you the hope you need to carry on knowing its possible to feel that again.

[@frydemwingz]

Yeah, that's the most sad part about it. There is nothing wrong with (most) of us, I don't think, we aren't broken people, it's just that our day to day wageslavery filled lives are just hopelessly depressing. Life feels like just surviving/"getting by" rather than living 95% of the time. I watch those documentaries of people that live in dirt poor 3rd world areas, and they genuinely seems at least somewhat happy because they have meaningful connections with other people, wheras in first world countries we all hate each other over petty things.

[@hawk_202]

Yeah man totally agree its crazy to think just how much less depressed people were 50 years ago and even in countries where the situation is clearly just so much worse, its insane just how much thinking about the past or worrying about the future can ruin the present moment where 99% of the time is just perfect as it is. It makes me wonder if we will ever come to terms with what we have going forward or if it was even a good thing we got all the technology and social media we have today.

[@stevenyoung3360]

Funny thing is if you ever try to find God and you work and work at it one day you do and then no antidepressants or moodaltering drugs are needed or wanted. It is a total life altering experience for which there is no substitute. This coming from a man who used every type of drug there is.

[@richardscathouse]

Happiness is only temporary like sadness or depression these emotions are reminders were alive not to be the end all be all itself! Finally realizing ill never get relief from my back problems having the reasonably effective pain medications withdrawn the opiate witchhunt, in general, these things leave me depressed kratom is the most effective thing I've found as a replacement! And the constant worry the government will close that door as well! Yes, that makes me consider suicide! My level of chronic pain is such that it restricts normal movement (in bedridden 21hrs a day) I definitely can't live with nothing between me and the full effects of my injuries!

[@SonOftheBattleCry]

I've lost my sister and my uncle whom were very close to me I was a mess drinking daily using heroine andcocaine than I started kratom I've never been better

[@robn1366]

That’s awesome I love kratom

[@nettieharris]

Good for you

[@xyoungdipsetx]

Kratom is shit

[@SonOftheBattleCry]

Joseph you’ve just had bad kratom good kratom is better than pain killers

[@eric13731]

Have you stopped using kratom?? If you didnt, doesnt that mean you just use another substance to substitute for the ones you were using🤔

[@rosswatson3993]

Be careful with this stuff. I was taking extracts-5 capsules per day for 6 months. The withdrawal part isn't that horrible, but my stomach is absolutely destroyed. Constant aches and pains. Loss of appetite. Cramping in my upper left abdomen. It's been 3 weeks and I'm still messed up.

[@adamdidyk2009]

Feeling any better yet? Did you figure anything out?

[@Bucephalus84]

Weird. I have Chrohns and hasn't done that to me. I filter the plant matter into a tea . And add lemon, lots of it

[@carleemorgan3934]

I myself take about 5 grams of kratom quite frequently. A couple times a week, mostly before I work as it lifts my mood and makes me more productive. I’m an advocate for kratom myself, however, it definitely isn’t for everyone and I think this video does a good job at showing this. While I can take anywhere up to 9 grams of kratom and few euphoric and fine, my friend can’t even take 4 grams without throwing up profusely. The drug affects everyone’s body differently and I think it’s important to start off with a low dosage and work your way up. I haven’t taken any kratom for about 2 weeks as I have run out and haven’t had time to go buy more, and I feel no rush to do so. I definitely don’t feel any symptoms of withdrawals, but as stated before everyone is different. I think if you are going to try kratom, do so with caution, any drug u take, no matter how natural or harmless, it’s still a drug and should be treated as such.

[@athhud]

Carlee Morgan your experience is very similar to my own. I’ve taken Kratom for over a decade. I’ve taken it daily for the past several years. I ran out a couple of weeks ago. My vendor was restructuring their site, so I could not order any more for a couple of weeks. I could have ordered some from another vendor, I could have even bought some overpriced stuff at the gas station. I didn’t though, because I didn’t want to overpay or get a product that I wasn’t familiar with. I don’t have any experience with drug addiction, but I would think that an addict would not be able to turn down a chance to purchase their drug when it is sitting right in front of them. Maybe I’m too much of a cheapskate to be an addict... lol I won’t dare say that I didn’t want Kratom while I was out. I love what it does to make life better, but for me it wasn’t worth overpaying for or the risk of paying for a product that I wouldn’t like. As far as “withdrawal”, all I felt was my normal aching bones and joints that Kratom alleviates and the lack of an energy boost that I get from it.

[@drinkablesafe997]

Yeah seems like proper dosage is the problem

[@SB001]

The problem is that folks are "looking to get high". The majority of folks use it for pain relief.

[@johnedward8352]

I've been considering trying it just to see what it's all about. I like to smoke weed but this seems different so I dont think I need it. This video definitely made me think "no thanks, I'll pass."

[@johnedward8352]

@Only Happy Thanks for the advice. Absolutely staying clear, I definitely dont need another habit. Some people swear by this shit.

[@ev3rsonix392]

@Only Happy my personal opinion it felt kinda like an opioid but a weak one at that and it made me really tired, I liked it way better than weed.

[@Stratocastter]

I just wanted to say how much I appreciated your video! You're unbiased relating of your story was refreshing. I'm a recovering heroin addict of many years who now works as a substance abuse counselor for a treatment center and feel qualified to say that the world needs more people like you who are prepared to simply tell the unvarnished truth about their experiences with addiction. So, thank you!

[@jesabel63]

I second that appreciation and thanks ♥

[@andrewortiz9226]

12 steppers arnt sober if they smoke cigarettes!! Ciggarettes are more harm than kratom!! 12 step thumpers smoke cigs and drink lots of lots of caffeine the get a buzz!! If only they were honest with themselves

[@Stratocastter]

@@andrewortiz9226 um, what???

[@andrewortiz9226]

@@Stratocastter ciggarettes and caffeine are mind altering substances

[@Stratocastter]

@@andrewortiz9226 If you say so. I don't get loaded off either, nor do I commit crimes to get them. If you have a problem with 12 step people I'm sorry to hear it. It helps millions of people around the world.

[@whocares8269]

I got horrible, horrible physical withdrawal symptoms after two/three months of daily evening use (shi*ts, abdominal pain, vomitiing, for 7 days+ ) ... use really with caution cuz i wouldnt wish this to my worst enemy..

[@nothingissacrosanct]

I was very skeptical about this video going in, but you've obviously really struggled with it. A lot of people do not understand that there ARE negative effects associated with Kratom, even if there are less than most substances. Keep making great videos, man. I'm glad you were able to get off of it. Stay safe

[@Draftgon]

origindirewolf is it completely safe to take it 1-2 times a week (like alcohol only when going out)?

[@iLeviathan]

Kratom withdrawal is nothing. I am sorry, but no. If you think kratom withdrawal is even worth taking into consideration. Compared to codeine - kratom withdrawal can't even compare to codeine.

[@PlatoonGoon]

RaffiNGO kratom is safe from dependency using one or twice a week occasionally taking a week off, I have had access to pounds for over a year and haven't gotten a dependency or withdrawals ever using in that way, it works on an opiod receptor in the brain so it can form dependency just with repeated use also risk is increased with an addictive personality. Shit is literally a magic herb for those in pain without insurance.

[@TheLethargy]

Hes not the only one, check the quittingkratom reddit

[@downfromthereeefters]

Jaiko there definitely are.

[@Zebracorn46]

Keep in mind you can get addicted to anything, including caffeine and sugar. Yep... people go through withdrawals with both.

[@DanRustle]

Obviously but the WD from those compounds are not nearly as bad as kratom or other opioids

[@darthlouis3418]

You know it isn’t the same thing. Those withdrawals are nowhere near comparable to kratom.

[@otoyoto7153]

Yeah I had to quit sugar completely recently and I realized last night that it's a stronger addiction than caffeine was and definitely worse than my weed habit.

[@liltunturi1251]

@@otoyoto7153 yes it is a real deal, i hope you are doing good healthy. sometimes i wonder what it would be like having no processed sugar i would probably go insane

[@kelpking4484]

Yup and coffee and sugar doesn't have high amounts of lead and heavy metals and are safe to consume I'm getting off this shit cause I didn't know I was eating lead Everytime I took kratom maybe y'all should too until they start growing it domestically and not in contaminated soil in developing countries

[@kirkjason24]

I was taking oxycodone up to 100 mg a day at 17 years old for debilitating anxiety. I finally quit about 6 months ago with Kratom. If taking it for the rest of my life is what it takes to feel ok at all ever, I’m fine with that.😀

[@bulkyspud1842]

Jason. Without a doubt. This is for someone with your experience. I was on sub for years and used it to get off. I always said this is it. My last crutch. I hate the withdrawals from it but I know how I am and know as of right now in my life it’s saving me. One day I hope I can move on from it.

[@annihilationa4879]

Jason Kirk I just started taking kratom from the same. I’m having to take 2 pills every hour im on day 3! Withdrawals are bad and I hope you understand what I mean. I bought kratom from a smoke shop.

[@glenna.450]

Jason Kirk Amen, dude!!!! You were taking Oxycodone? Well I'm trying to get off BOTH Methadone AND Oxymorphone!!!! I am blessed in that, completely on my own, I began at 80mg of Methadone a day, and by tapering, I was able to take a half a tablet, less, every two weeks, to the point that I am now down to just one and a half tablets, or 15mg of it a day, total!! But for some reason, I've found that the lower I've gone on the substance (Methadone), the more difficult it's been to taper off of it--even though I would use the Oxymorphone to stave off the Methadone withdrawals!! Hey, just so people know: I'd "much rather" go through Oxymorphone withdrawal than Methadone; because they can last five to six times as long on Methadone!!!! Anyway, if I have to take a little Kratom, now, to go the rest of the way, so be it!!!! I'm just NOT going to SUFFER if there's something I can do about it!!!!

[@barackhusseinobamaisamusli6062]

Jason Kirk I first tried kratom in the late 1990's. I currently use kratom instead of suboxone. I understand that I will always have a use for kratom. Therefore I use it responsibly. I buy in bulk so it only costs me around one dollar a day. I use kratom 3 times a day. Once when I wake up. Again 6-8 hours later. Then right before I go to bed. Grapefruit & turmeric amplify the effects of kratom. So I blend one grapefruit & one turmeric along with orange juice in the blender. After that is done I pour the juice into a large cup. Then I put 4 grams of kratom in the grapefruit/orange juice & mix with butterknife. Then drink. Even though I have been using for years my tolerance is still like I'm a beginner. In order to keep tolerance low you must stop using kratom from time to time & only use kratom stems/veins. Your tolerance will also stay low if you rotate strains. Every 2 months I stop using kratom & only use kratom veins/stems for a week straight. After that my tolerance is low. You have to be responsible or else your tolerance will increase over the years.

[@rtazz17]

Jason Kirk it will be illegal in all 50 states,better taper now becuz you will be wishing u did