5 Raspberry Pi 4 Distros: Manjaro, DietPi, LibreELEC & More!

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@chainreaction8977
@chainreaction8977 5 жыл бұрын
It's like cutting edge tech explained like I was in the 80's. This channel is the most amazing thing in the cosmos.
@MarkTheMorose
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When someone mentions the 80's and 'cosmos', I can't help thinking of the Carl Sagan series. "There are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on all the beaches on Earth", or something like that. Oh, and greets to Mr Scissors: 8X
@merlinathrawes6191
@merlinathrawes6191 5 жыл бұрын
If Tomorrows World made mad love to Bob Ross, this would be the resulting lovechild lol. It's a brilliant channel.
@judaismorazaoevida
@judaismorazaoevida 5 жыл бұрын
I remember that Sagan phase. Favourite series of childhood of mine
@marztar
@marztar 5 жыл бұрын
The 80s where from the future. We're yet to fully realize the neon.
@cafefearius896
@cafefearius896 5 жыл бұрын
In a weird way this channel is comforting like Mr. Rodgers, Bob Ross and Sagan - but with scissors and dry humor
@BolekWu
@BolekWu 5 жыл бұрын
0:35 Manjaro 6:23 LibreELEC 9:40 OpenMediaVault 11:11 DietPi 14:45 64 Bit Raspbian -- 18:18 Exciting Times
@plankalkulcompiler9468
@plankalkulcompiler9468 5 жыл бұрын
All of them except for Manjaro are Raspbian-based.
@Purjo92
@Purjo92 4 жыл бұрын
I use KDE Manjaro in my low spec (2GB RAM + Intel N3050 CPU + eMMC drive) and it has made my laptop really responsive, and uses
@solamande
@solamande 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing, I started googling this topic and checking out RPI distros just yesterday. I wake up this morning and find this. Thanks EC.
@augurseer
@augurseer 5 жыл бұрын
Another Sunday. Another Chris video. Another good day.
@MESYETI
@MESYETI 4 жыл бұрын
the perfect life
@junglemouse4585
@junglemouse4585 4 жыл бұрын
yes indeed
@badgerboy3017
@badgerboy3017 5 жыл бұрын
Great to see all this Linux goodness. The Pi 4 seems to be coming along very nicely indeed and you do a wonderful job showcasing all the hard work that many dedicated folks put in, often for free. Exciting times and look forward to more magic and wizardry from one of the best channels on KZbin :) Thank you
@smartassist9700
@smartassist9700 5 жыл бұрын
I had to paint my work barn and office in it today. Sooo now I sit back after dinner and etruly enjoying yet another awesome video. Thank you immensely Sir Christopher of Nottingham!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you have had a productive day! :)
@smartassist9700
@smartassist9700 5 жыл бұрын
I still have to run electricity and insulation. Then move equipment in. Then my project really takes off.
@Steven_VE9SY
@Steven_VE9SY 5 жыл бұрын
There are days I think you are reading my mind. I was thinking about different distros today, You've given me a few I didn't know about, but one of them sounds perfect for one of my projects.
@markconger8049
@markconger8049 5 жыл бұрын
Right? This channel has such timely information. And I just love his presentation format.
@srtcsb
@srtcsb 5 жыл бұрын
These OS's are a good example of how the RPi 4 is significantly more powerful than the previous RPi models. I appreciate how the Raspberry Pi foundation is taking its time to deliver hardware and software that's stable. They know their SBC's quite well, so they can watch the advancement of the tech, and take advantage of it at the right time/price point. Hope I can get my hands on a RPi 4 soon, it seems every time I go to order a 4GB, they're (still) out of stock. Thanks for another great video Chris.
@davidelfpunsher50
@davidelfpunsher50 5 жыл бұрын
How can people dislike video from ExplainingComputers ? Thanks for this review !
@markconger8049
@markconger8049 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t even look at dislikes anymore. Trolls will be trolls.
@marztar
@marztar 5 жыл бұрын
Because g00gl likes to play with your emotions and give NAZIS ability to HATE CRIME DISLIKE what you like to watch.
@markconger8049
@markconger8049 5 жыл бұрын
Two additional notes: 1. Ubuntu for the Pi 4 is now available. Both 32 and 64 bit versions are available. Another KZbinr, ETA Prime, has recently released a video covering this. 2. The release of 64 bit Raspbian may seem unexciting but let me theorize why this could be a great thing going forward. Without getting super technical, it is worth mentioning that 32 bit operating systems can only work with about 3 gigabytes of RAM. But the Pi 4 has up to 4GB so to make all of the RAM accessible in 32 bit Raspbian Buster a workaround had to be implemented. That workaround only gets you a max of 4GB. The 64 bit operating system can address much, much more RAM than that so my theory is that with the 4GB memory barrier removed we may see future Pi 4 models (4B+ perhaps) with more than 4 GB of RAM. Much more. Raspberry Pi officials have stated affordable memory chips greater than 4GB could not be sourced and keep the Pi cost where it is currently so they stopped at 4GB. But, I would be happy to pay up to $100 for an 8GB Pi 4.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
Useful notes. Thanks for sharing here.
@markconger8049
@markconger8049 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, one more note about RAM in the Pi 4, I think I read where the Broadcom Sytem on a Chip (SoC) which houses the processor cores, video core, GPIO, PCIe, and such can handle up to 16GB of RAM. The 64-bit operating system can address much more so this is a SoC limitation, but still, 16GB is jaw dropping in the Pi world. Maybe we’ll see it. Who knows.
@erroronetwofour1261
@erroronetwofour1261 4 жыл бұрын
@@markconger8049 nice but there is no 64 bit java for pi. I cannot find on the whole Internet anything about it. Do you know how to get it?
@markconger8049
@markconger8049 4 жыл бұрын
Error onetwofour - did you see this forum post on Raspberry Pi? www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=257832
@perrymcclusky4695
@perrymcclusky4695 5 жыл бұрын
Truly “exciting times”. Thanks for all the information! Looking forward to your next video.
@jc-pj3nh
@jc-pj3nh 4 жыл бұрын
#2 is used on replacement auto sheet metal repairs . it grooves two pieces of metal to overlap each other then you spot weld the two pieces. It attaches to a air impact hammer. Joel
@mariomarais5644
@mariomarais5644 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of of information! Thanks for opening up additional possibilities for using the Raspberry Pi! Manjaro and 64 bits... WOW!
@RoboNuggie
@RoboNuggie 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Christopher - a well done video as always. Many respects sir...
@KiJiHoon
@KiJiHoon 5 жыл бұрын
I got my Pi 4 a couple of days ago and I'm completely new to all of this, but I'm glad you mentioned the video playback issue. I'm getting screen tearing in Raspbian with Chromium and VLC. LibreELEC hardware decoding works perfectly though.
@Jim-be8sj
@Jim-be8sj 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like I'll have to try out Manjaro on one of my Raspbery Pis. Thanks for another quality upload. This is how I start my Sunday mornings. :)
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
Manjaro is Pi 4 only, but does run -- and look -- great. :)
@MiniRockerz4ever
@MiniRockerz4ever 5 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers does Manjaro come with Firefox browser 32bit or 64?
@elviraeloramilosic9813
@elviraeloramilosic9813 5 жыл бұрын
Exciting times indeed! Recently I was researching some distros for Rπ thinking to test & taste raspberry flavours with different distros on top. Today I've got a gift! Excellent video Chris! 😁👌🏻
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Elvira. :) I like how you included a proper pi symbol there! :) Cool.
@deanlawson6880
@deanlawson6880 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video Prof. Chris! And very timely as well! I have my first Rasp.Pi on the way here on order from Amazon even now as I write this, and it's good to see what options are available at this time. Fantastic! I think I'll be sticking with the 64-Bit Raspbian for now... Thanks again for the great video and all the effort and time you put into Explaining Computers videos!!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your new Pi. :) Not that 64 bit Raspbian remains experimental this stage. :)
@MichelMorinMontreal
@MichelMorinMontreal 5 жыл бұрын
Greetings! You introduced me with this video to the "DietPi" Distro. Since then, I've been adding installations on RPpi as well as on old PCs, for leisure as well as for work. Totally awesome. Many thanks!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
Great to hear. :)
@phildodd9942
@phildodd9942 5 жыл бұрын
A good representative selection that you have provided us with ! Manjaro sounds to be a useful "all-round" distribution ! As regards 64-bit, PiLFS now have a 64-bit version for people who want to build their own operating system ! Anyone tempted note that there are quite a lot of steps - last one that I built took me a fortnight in-between other things... But yes, a great selection Chris, and Manjaro certainly sounds a safe bet until Raspbian 64-bit fully gets off the ground. Thanks for this useful primer into 64-bit on the Pi !
@HKey_Root
@HKey_Root 4 жыл бұрын
Super. I'm glad I watched this as I discovered I was only running the 32bit Raspberry Pi OS. Thank you.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 жыл бұрын
There are lots of 64 bit Pi OS now -- kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmGmhmSgaJuEbNU
@HKey_Root
@HKey_Root 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I should have tacked on that I followed this vid and now have the 64bit Raspberry Pi OS running.
@AnttiNannimus1
@AnttiNannimus1 5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Barnatt, you continue to impress and amaze with your consistently great videos providing always delicious, useful, clear, practical, and objective, information, recommendations and expert advise. That you do so with such regular good humor is even more remarkable. And all of it for free! As long as you are able to keep doing it, I will keep watching it. Thank you and best wishes. So today thanks to you, I ordered the RPi 4B, Ice cooler, etc. to add to my collection of SBC's, and I look forward to trying these OS alternatives. But I DID NOT order the blue LED version of the cooler. There should be an international law against blue LED's, which are known to interfere with sleep, and probably tortures pets. Amber should be the gold standard. So I ordered the multi-color RGB fan-version, complete with a colorful case option, but I would have ordered amber if I had found it. With any luck at all, there will be software control of the RGB color choices. In any case, there should always be a way to shut off the LEDs since they provide little if any value for their power consumption. www.ebay.com/itm/52Pi-V2-0-RGB-ICE-Tower-CPU-Cooling-Fan-5-Layer-Acrylic-Case-for-Raspberry-Pi-4B/223680248136?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=522401408281&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your new Pi. :)
@MichaelStephenLordReserei1987
@MichaelStephenLordReserei1987 5 жыл бұрын
I've used both OMV and LibreELEC in the past. I should mention OctoPrint for those who have a 3D Printer. I bought a Monoprice Maker Select Plus back in April, which doesn't have Wi-Fi connectivity, and I keep it in my hobby room where I build plastic models as well as do other things. Hooking it up to a RPi and installing OctoPrint changes that. It allows you to manage and monitor prints over a network through a web UI, and also an app. Although I believe there is a plugin to print from anywhere (I've just not tried it). For those who use AstroPrint--there's a plugin for that, too.
@artbecker5618
@artbecker5618 5 жыл бұрын
OctoPrint is interesting, as it not only controls your printer, but you can't even turn the printer on and off using the switch, if you are running it. The slight downside is that it is written in Python 2.
@mrcrisplinuxuser4180
@mrcrisplinuxuser4180 5 жыл бұрын
As soon as they implement hardware acceleration more the pi 4 will be great.
@slappymcphee
@slappymcphee 5 жыл бұрын
I have learned a lot in the last week about the inner workings of development in the Pi community and it has revealed a lot is was surprised about including how lazy broadcom had been like RockChip and AMLogic. They are all freeloaders of the community expecting it to do all the heavy lifting. Quit sad really.
@IncertusetNescio
@IncertusetNescio 5 жыл бұрын
They updated the hardware a lot, including the video output, but hamstrung it with software-only rendering in the majority of cases. Kinda surprised they did that instead of better hardware support.
@jmshrv
@jmshrv 5 жыл бұрын
AFAIK video acceleration is working on stuff like LibreELEC. Firefox doesn't support hardware acceleration on Linux so Chromium built with VA-API support will probably provide a better experience on the RPi4.
@RogerDiotte
@RogerDiotte 4 жыл бұрын
My Raspbian not showing 32 or 64 bit version? Linux raspberrypi 4.19.97-v7l+ #1294 SMP Thu Jan 30 13:21:14 GMT 2020 armv7l GNU/Linux I'm guessing it is 64bit but the command uname -a doesn't specify.
@toysareforboys1
@toysareforboys1 5 жыл бұрын
I run LibreELEC on my for playing 4k media, so damn flawless it isn't funny! The the fan shim, 4k made it run pretty hot but that thing keeps it extra cool. Zero issues.
@Nibardocano
@Nibardocano 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Chris. Perfect with a cup of coffee, for this cold morning
@MrZooobaaa
@MrZooobaaa 5 жыл бұрын
In kodi just press "O" for codec info or "ctrl+shift+O" for extended codec info.
@daiq9
@daiq9 5 жыл бұрын
Very good . I find your videos very helpful, esp with picking out distros for my growing Pi collection.
@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for this analysis. You always have something interesting, relevant, and informative.
@Xeno_Bardock
@Xeno_Bardock 5 жыл бұрын
Try force enabling hardware acceleration in firefox about:config. Firefox on Linux doesn't support hardware acceleration out of the box for some reason.
@mikem9536
@mikem9536 5 жыл бұрын
It is in version 70.
@jmshrv
@jmshrv 5 жыл бұрын
That doesn't do video acceleration sadly.
@LillyJem
@LillyJem 4 жыл бұрын
​@@jmshrv Setting the 'media.hardware-video-decoding.force-enabled' to 'true' in about:config solved the issue for me. Was the first thing I did after noticing the issue on my Pi 4 running Manjaro.
@DonVigaDeFierro
@DonVigaDeFierro 5 жыл бұрын
Manjaro is severely underrated. It's by far the best distro for light devices. I flashed it on an ASUS Nexus from 2012 and worked wonders until last year when it bricked.
@markconger8049
@markconger8049 5 жыл бұрын
So Manjaro works on Intel systems too? I know very little about it. But I did recently buy a budget Lenovo IdeaPad to try and switch over to Linux. Might give Manjaro a run.
@DonVigaDeFierro
@DonVigaDeFierro 5 жыл бұрын
@@markconger8049 Yeah, you totally should. It's lighter than Ubuntu, and with pretty much the same functionality.
@JoseLopez-oz1xm
@JoseLopez-oz1xm 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Chris, thanks for putting Manjaro in the mix.
@MichelMorinMontreal
@MichelMorinMontreal 4 жыл бұрын
Greetings! After two "SBC" installations with/for enthusiastic neighbors (A small Pine64 and a Raspberry Pi 4 2Go - No fees, it's community fun) with DietPi for indoor file sharing (Tonido was finally chosen by these two families of saeveral teenagers, I do hope there is no security problem here), I'm getting ready to update my own tiny home server (a RPi 3B+), with an RPi 4 4Go and (of course!) DietPI. NextCloud will be available again at home, within the next few weeks; I am courious to see the results of this "hardware upgrade"... Thanks again for discovering this great distribution!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 жыл бұрын
This all sounds cool! :)
@williamhart4896
@williamhart4896 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks professor Christopher the pi4b is looking better than it did before on your first visit to it getting better support for the choices of OS you can use .
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree. I have had to wait some time to make a video like this. :)
@EarlGray_kd7sjt
@EarlGray_kd7sjt 5 жыл бұрын
Superior as always good sir. I have my 4 gig rpi4 in hand and will be trying the manjaro distro out.
@5argetech56
@5argetech56 5 жыл бұрын
Best way to start a Sunday morning... Good cup of Java, crispy English muffin and Competent useful information from Explaining Computers..
@ThePC007
@ThePC007 5 жыл бұрын
Don't drink Java. Drink Rust.
@binnsbrian
@binnsbrian 5 жыл бұрын
I find it insulting to call Christopher Barnett a " crispy English muffin."
@KingJellyfishII
@KingJellyfishII 5 жыл бұрын
Drinking java??! It'd be a horrible experience to set up, so much boilerplate coffee brewing.
@KameraShy
@KameraShy 4 жыл бұрын
Woke up this morning and I got myself a beer.
@meowthx1985
@meowthx1985 5 жыл бұрын
Well as for the ARM 64-Bit support for Raspbian I hope they will have Vulkan API support as well smoother performances for 4K, as well some fixes for Firefox ESR - that appears to crash quite often in Raspbian
@JeFi2
@JeFi2 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see that Manjaro is just as glorious on the Pi as it is on the Desktop.
@williamrutter3619
@williamrutter3619 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, nice operating systems, interesting improvements ahead, I like to use berryboot, so I can run multiple os on an SSD, the current pi 4 version is a bit touch and go, but when it's sorted it will finally replace my pi 3.
@62shalaka
@62shalaka 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, Chris, excellent video!
@fred3259
@fred3259 5 жыл бұрын
The main problem with linux arm is hardware acceleration. The Rp 4 have the power but is missing this feature.
@anandarup-bnk
@anandarup-bnk 5 жыл бұрын
A lovely video as usual. Very lucid. Thanks a lot.
@rcosnett
@rcosnett 5 жыл бұрын
Great intoduction to OS for the Raspberry PI4
@burcakb1
@burcakb1 5 жыл бұрын
When I tried running some docker stuff, including mysql (or mariadb) 32-bit raspbian created all kinds of problems for me. It was Manjaro to the rescue. Truely 64-bit, full aarch64 OS, everything installs & upgrades painlessly. It's soo good that i really don't feel the need to go back & see if raspbian64 is any good.
@benjmeistah
@benjmeistah 13 күн бұрын
Thx man, merry xmas and a happy new one :)
@laurieinjapan
@laurieinjapan 4 жыл бұрын
Great information! Thank you very much. I've been saving up and I'm looking forward to getting a raspberry pi 4 this weekend!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your new Pi. :)
@LiamGunes
@LiamGunes 5 жыл бұрын
DietPi looks like a good solution for classes/outreach labs that I don’t want to turn loose with a full edition of Kali Linux.
@NicoDsSBCs
@NicoDsSBCs 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video Christopher. I again learned a lot. I never tried DietPi. And I didn't know it was possible to run Raspbian in arm64. I'll have to try that. Great info. I made a video about installing Mate on Ubuntu 19.10 server on the Raspberry Pi 4. There are some issues, but it does run well. HDMI sound doesn't work right yet, and for me 4GB disables USB. So I've got to limit to 3074MB. Still ok for a Raspberry Pi. The biggest advantage of Ubuntu 19.10 is that it uses mainline kernel 5.3 instead of the Raspberry kernel, and it has the latest software versions. And it's faster for my tasks than Debian Buster. Because of its limitations it doesn't yet fit in this list. But it is great to see this happening for the Raspberry. I hope they'll fix the issues soon. I must say I like the RK3399's so much more than the RPi4 for so many reasons. I also had a lot of problems with my capture device. For terminal I had to use my hdmi splitter. But for desktop use that gave an empty black display. So then I had to run it thru the capture device, but it only worked with 4k resolution. So I had to enlarge everything. So I know what you menth with having to reboot a lot for your capture device :) Have a great evening, greetings.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Nico. It sounds like we share in the joys of recording from SBCs. :) I will checkout your Ubuntu video. Like you, I am increasingly impressed by some of the RK3399 boards.
@pottsydog3622
@pottsydog3622 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, thanks for your excellent work. I've played around DietPi for a few days now, It seems to be excellent for tinkering about, which is how a lot of us learn things - particularly as you get over 50 ! Also, it bridges very nicely between a desktop GUI and it's terminal based config applications - which is great for those of use still weary of using terminals. Perhaps a video dedicated to DietPi would be well received ? I'm sure most Raspberry Pi's have been purchased as a learning tool/Linux play thing. Thanks again
@sbrazenor2
@sbrazenor2 5 жыл бұрын
The Raspbian 64-bit version would be handy for those of us that use files that are exceeding 4GB in size. I've never tested 32-bit Linux with that constraint, but I know Windows was never happy with huge files in 32-bit.
@kataseiko
@kataseiko 5 жыл бұрын
Great to see updates like that to the RasPi 4. Now an important question is - what happened to the power port? Have they sent you an updated version with the proper two resistors yet? I am still waiting for them to fix this before I buy a RasPi 4..
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not aware of a power update yet.
@guitar81sb
@guitar81sb 5 жыл бұрын
tl;dr; Manjaro XFCE edition on Rpi4 is amazing, way better than Raspian in terms of general daily computing. My laptop, xps 13, recently stopped working. Until it was fixed I was happily using RPi4 as my main computer. I wasn't aware that other distros were available for it, so I used Raspian for two weeks or so, and I was underwhelmed by this experience. After watching this video, I switched to Manjaro, which knocked my socks off!. I do most of my work on the command line and through web browser etc. So, after using Manjaro, I can say that Rpi4 can certainly be a desktop replacement for me! Thanks EC for this great review video!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
This is great to hear. :)
@whoanelly-
@whoanelly- 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video as always Chris! Much admiration from across the pond in Canada :). I know that PIs are focused for lower cost and simple deployments with SD cards, but I kinda wish we'd move away from micro SD and go more towards USB3 boot either via thumb drives or SSDs. Not only from a life expectancy view, but performace boost too. Someone should design a cool case where a traditional 2.5 SSD can be incorporated into a nice little self contained package.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
It is strange that the Pi 3 can boot from USB, yet the Pi 4 currently cannot . . .
@Doobie3010
@Doobie3010 5 жыл бұрын
Always interesting.Cheers man.
@ralphups7782
@ralphups7782 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative class indeed. Thank you. 👍
@DFX2KX
@DFX2KX 5 жыл бұрын
excellent video as usual, Chris! Just recently moved my Gaming PC over to Linux. It's amazing how many of these distros exist for ARM and how good the support is now. I thought of a *great* video topic for you on the topic of Linux, because many are being introduced to it through SBCs and some of them want to replace their Windows Machines: Linux Gaming, and setting up Vulkan/DXVK for WINE. Really old cards don't support it at all, really new ones just work, but there's a span of time in the middle for both AMD and Nvidia where one has to manually configure it. It'd be a good way to explain chip names, grub2, and how to install services (if you decide to handle fan speeds on your own, which I had to do). I Might even record it later when I redo this install onto new drives, just so someone else with a similar video card doesn't get massively confused and break things. Also, Props to Zorin for having a recovery enviroment....
5 жыл бұрын
Well, nice to see some options for our new raspberry pi, but would be nice if you could do a compilation of what options there is for those who want command line only for server usage and where you only connect power and network cable. I have been using the system from armbian and get very annoyed everytime I shall setup raspian where it sucks in many ways compared to armbian. Ubuntu server is one option but it is not so friendly compared to armbian.
@ok4rm
@ok4rm 5 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to review CPU load and temperature characteristics of the operating system distros reviewed in this video? I noticed a big difference between idle Raspbian (37 C cpu temp) and and idle Open Media Vault (57 C) on the same hardware with the same cooler.
@The_0p3r8t0r
@The_0p3r8t0r 5 жыл бұрын
Nice, thanks for sharing. Nice gotcha with the 64bit rasbian and the older 32bit apps. Manjaro in KDE on an SBC is amazing. I thought it would run horribly. But it's not too bad at all.
@lonewolf31337
@lonewolf31337 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I always enjoy your videos
@DJ-Daz
@DJ-Daz 5 жыл бұрын
I love DietPi, I have it on 2 Pi 4's and a high-end desktop.
@davidelfpunsher50
@davidelfpunsher50 5 жыл бұрын
Could you tell what you have installed to use it as a desktop ? Cheers
@DJ-Daz
@DJ-Daz 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidelfpunsher50 Do you mean the OS or the hardware? The OS is DietPi x86 on an Intel 6600K, with 16GB DDR 4 3000mhz RAM, 500GB NVME.
@DJ-Daz
@DJ-Daz 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidelfpunsher50 I used a USB NVME enclosure, copied dietpi to the USB NVME drive, then installed the drive in the PC. smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07SKQLPFR
@bactanite
@bactanite 5 жыл бұрын
How about installing all five of these operating systems using GRUB as the boot loader? The blue led tower cooler should help the Pi out with this.
@mac7858
@mac7858 5 жыл бұрын
The ice tower fits with the Pimoroni RPi 4 case
@geoffhalsey2184
@geoffhalsey2184 5 жыл бұрын
Something for everybody there. Variety is the spice of life, so they say. There's not a huge advantage in moving to 64-bit OS on an SBC limited to 4GB maximum ram, other than keeping up with developments for Linux itself. However, as it's available why not use it and when an 8GB RPi turns up, essential.
@grantsgamesandtech312
@grantsgamesandtech312 5 жыл бұрын
I would not recommend KDE on rpi. But, it actually works. It would be cool to see the mate desktop on rpi4
@johnm2012
@johnm2012 4 жыл бұрын
There's Ubuntu Mate available for the Pi, though I don't know whether it's 64-bit or 32.
@boumerguy7042
@boumerguy7042 5 жыл бұрын
DietPi seems to provide an ARMv6 image which is quite old/obsolete. I assume the reason is compatibility with older Raspberry Pi models. I wasn't aware of the aarch64 version for raspbian, thank you.
@horizon42q
@horizon42q 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent educational video. Thanks
@ll_ubermensch_ll
@ll_ubermensch_ll 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think 64 bit raspbian is the start for a powerful OS? I mean for now there are not 64 bit application developed for 64 bit raspbian.
@ristopoho824
@ristopoho824 5 жыл бұрын
OH nice. I saw James Bruton on your youtube choices on kodi. He's awesome =) really likeable and really gifted.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
James Bruton is indeed a great KZbinr, and a really talented guy.
@Duewester
@Duewester 5 жыл бұрын
Manjaro KDE itself seems slow. Kodi is too specialized, OMV won't run for more than a day or so for me without requiring total re-install and wiping disks. Is dietpi 32 or 64?
@JohnSmith-bh4zx
@JohnSmith-bh4zx 5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Retropie for Pi 4.
@pgtmr2713
@pgtmr2713 5 жыл бұрын
You can install it. It works better than with a 3b+. Overclock to 2ghz, 725 for gpu, over volt 6 use a high speed sd card and there is a way to overclock that too, dtoverlay 50=100, both ppsspp and n64 are very playable. I think the n64 likes slightly different configs, save games in retroarch often, it crashes with the settings I have, requires pulling the plug. Goldeneye plays just fine so far as speed, just need an n64 style controller ps3 type works just impossible to aim. Ppsspp, god of war is too slow, Tomb Raider very good, Ridge Racer perfect with overclock. Oh and gpu mem set to 512. Each one of those things helped on my pi 4 4gb
@blahmanoloblahblahmanolobl3014
@blahmanoloblahblahmanolobl3014 5 жыл бұрын
Does Raspbian support NEON SIMD instructios ? Especially the 64 bit kernel version ? Is the Ubuntu Mate distro for the Raspberry Pi 2 compiled with NEON support ?
@CrazyWillTechShow
@CrazyWillTechShow 5 жыл бұрын
Love your video bro!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. :)
@johncnorris
@johncnorris 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice Raspberry Pi 4 OS compendium!
@sneakyjedi3211
@sneakyjedi3211 5 жыл бұрын
I guess the youtube playback in raspbian 64 bit is the same as in Manjaro. No hardware support yet. I agree that youtube is ok, watched several hours of youtube content and is ok enough but not good enough if for example you have a stockmarket ticket scrolling in the video. Then you will definitely see the effects of the dropped frames. Also tested libreelec. That all works fine except it support only up to the DTS sound format. I remember reading the specs at the launch of the pi4 that it could support the lossless formats TrueHD and DTS Master HD-MA. I am still hopeful that the hardware support will improve in time so above issues will no longer exist. Maybe i am wrong. If so, please let me know.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
You are right -- hardware support should improve in time.
@zeberto1986
@zeberto1986 5 жыл бұрын
Think im going to need several SD cards to try these OS' out when I get a Pi 4
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, lot of things to try here!
@zeberto1986
@zeberto1986 5 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers how are you getting on with your Raspberry Pi / Devastator project?
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
I had it in my hand only yesterday (because it lives on top of so many other things!). I do still intend to do the speed control video before the end of 2019. Thanks for the prompt. :)
@zeberto1986
@zeberto1986 5 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputersI bet there are a fair few regulars who cannot wait to see that. Hopefully that would be motivation enough to try teaming up an NRF24L01 radio with a Pi for remote control.
@markconger8049
@markconger8049 5 жыл бұрын
The Pi 4 now supports network booting so if you have a desire to learn about that it may save you some time imaging multiple SD cards. You can network boot from a PC or even another Pi.
@SomeNot
@SomeNot 5 жыл бұрын
Y’ know what i love about youtube? Getting notifications 5 minutes late.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
Oh well, at least it arrived. The release of the video got confused today due to the clocks changing here in the UK last night
@SomeNot
@SomeNot 5 жыл бұрын
@ExplainingComputers Yes, i haven’t received notifications from some channels for almost 4 months.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
There seem to be a lot of bugs with KZbin right now. Like the comment editor in Studio Beta not showing more than 4 words! So here I am in Classic, which is due to disappear entirely this week!
@chloemcholoe3280
@chloemcholoe3280 5 жыл бұрын
manjaro is so clean. I love it
@DJ-lg6nu
@DJ-lg6nu 5 жыл бұрын
Dietpi is an awesome OS. I've used it for several things over the past couple years (CLI only). It has so many tutorials on anything you want to build. I've personally used it as an OpenVPN server, TOR access point, rsyslog, and even a honeypot decoy. All things considered I prefer Dietpi over Raspbian and even Armbian. This is the first review I've seen on the desktop though which I haven't tried yet so I'll give it a go. Thanks for the great video as always!!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this feedback. DietPi does indeed offer so many options. :)
@DJ-lg6nu
@DJ-lg6nu 5 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers definitely!
@chulucninh2083
@chulucninh2083 5 жыл бұрын
The 64bit version of Raspbian is actually 64bit kernel with 32bit userland, which is not fully leverage the advantages of 64bit architecture. There is unofficial ubuntu server 64bit image for Rpi4, can you try on that?
@williamhart4896
@williamhart4896 5 жыл бұрын
At this stage I think you should put up a full length video on playing with and configuring the diet pi os just to show how far you can take it .thanks professor Chris
@jajwarehouse1
@jajwarehouse1 5 жыл бұрын
It amazes me how many 32-bit applications still exist.
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR 4 жыл бұрын
What about a version of GhostBSD for the Raspberry Pi IV.
@ShahTalks
@ShahTalks 5 жыл бұрын
I love your videos their very informative
@ikeyasector
@ikeyasector 5 жыл бұрын
I found out that Parrot OS now has an experimental version for Raspberry Pi (so does Kali which I think Parrot is competing with). I haven't tired it and I'm not sure if you've tired it yet but I am interested. I'm not sure how well it runs at this time but Parrot is my favorite distro for my desktop and laptop (which I always duel boot with Peppermint OS since Peppermint doesn't require much system resources).
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
Kali certainly works. I shot a Kali Linux segment for the video, but decided against including it.
@ritikbhambhani5656
@ritikbhambhani5656 5 жыл бұрын
Im want to know what status of 5G in the UK, it's working on the real-time or beta version
@avejst
@avejst 5 жыл бұрын
Great video as always :-)
@jamesmoorhead8207
@jamesmoorhead8207 5 жыл бұрын
This channel and the presenter reminds me of tomorrows world from the tv in the 80's lol
@twmbarlwmstar
@twmbarlwmstar 5 жыл бұрын
Good to see Manjaro on the Pi4, if the Pi4 is really going to have a stab at ‘thin-client’ it will be a good OS to have. Nice overview of what else is available as well, although hardware acceleration seems to be a continuing bane that will put a lot off. Since Pi2 I’ve always been disappointed when it comes to video with Pi. There’s seems something of a conflict with Raspberry Foundation, you have the educational remit which is all genuine and valid as far as I’m concerned, then the fact they shift tons of Zeros to industry (and I guess now also Model A+) and then you have the sort of ‘enthusiast’ model which is currently the Pi4. But its implementation seemed rushed, I don’t think taking people by surprise with a product launch is a very good way of going about things- it seemed chucked out there with little support. It feels like it was a bit knee-jerk in a perceived response to some competition but was faulted because of that. The USB-C thing is the most annoying to me as it introduces another half-baked USB-C implementation to what is already a bit of a mess anyway (USB3.3/3.1.1/3.2.1… is that right?) and is likely to be there for a long while until they redesign. No M.2 is just behind the curve given the prices now, as is no USB boot. And they say it would make a good thin client. Things like micro-HDMI and heat seem much less of an issue as they are easily resolved. Great video as always.
@hans-dieterjung4026
@hans-dieterjung4026 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this nice video Christopher. I'm new in the world off Single Board Computer. I have some experiences with Arduino. So I have some questions. Do you have experiences with OktoPi, a distribution with OktoPrint included. And then a stupid question, for the GPIOs on the RPI and other SBC is there a Microprocessor like an Arduino behind and are there 8, 16 or 32 bit like SM32 or ESP32. Thanks if anybody answer the question.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
I've not used OctoPi. There is no processor "behind" the GPIO -- just the SBC's main SoC.
@hans-dieterjung4026
@hans-dieterjung4026 5 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers thanks a lot 👍
@crazyrussianbot8012
@crazyrussianbot8012 5 жыл бұрын
I would be curious how well the Pi4 runs a Minecraft Server, esp. if the 64 bit version is faster even with only 4GB Ram. Minecraft runs on Java 32 or 64 bit. I like to run Minecraft with the Lotr-mod (Lord of the Rings). It's super awesome.
@gmatth
@gmatth 5 жыл бұрын
Do any of these work with Redshift or f.lux? I'm a night person and the lack of blue light blocking is preventing me from switching to the Pi4 full time. If someone can help me I would really appreciate it!
@chriholt
@chriholt 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome update Chris, I really need to upgrade to a Raspberry Pi 4!
@bertdefasko2426
@bertdefasko2426 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to build a SBC Raspberry Pi to use exclusively with my Arduino IDE. This video helps me decide which OS I should use. Is this possible?
@KameraShy
@KameraShy 4 жыл бұрын
As always, makes learning fun.
@cloneofclark4374
@cloneofclark4374 5 жыл бұрын
Oh no, with Raspbian 64 bit coming out my 32 bit Thinkpad-41's usability could be coming to a close. I use Raspbian Desktop 32 bit for it now but I suspect support for 32 bit will be discontinued at some point. I guess I'll have to look into buy a new 64 bit laptop. Thanks EC for the videos showing the trends in computing. I find them useful and have helped extending the life of my Thinkpad.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
I doubt that they will scrap 32 bit Raspbian, not least as the Pi Zero (and also all Pi 1 and Pi 2 models) are all 2 bit.
@Promilus1984
@Promilus1984 5 жыл бұрын
Manjaro menu responsiveness seems quite poor though, I honestly hate lagging interface ...
@kamertonaudiophileplayer847
@kamertonaudiophileplayer847 4 жыл бұрын
Which OS is more suitable for a server use? No UI is required, but Java.
@77936fief
@77936fief 5 жыл бұрын
i'm having the same issue with my HDMI display on the 64-bit, can you perhaps tell me how you managed to get in sorted? thanks
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
I edited the config.txt file on another machine to force a set resolution.
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