5 Reasons People Hate ARCH ENEMY

[@the1ucidone]

Arch Enemy is fucking awesome.

[@edyrocker8677]

Joseph Freese 🤘🤘

[@pritikapoor1030]

🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽

[@OldManTenno]

I don't hate Arch Enemy, I like quite a few of their songs. I do, however, take issue with the fact that they hired one of the most talented guitarist/songwriters in metal with his very unique style that many people love, then fail to use him to the potential that could've elevated the band to a much better place. Jeff Loomis wants to create... Jeff Loomis NEEDS to create. He should not be a place holder that gives "cred" to a band just because his name is attached to it. Let him do the dark 7 string stuff that made him who he is.

[@butdontaskme5345]

Wow that's Jeff? Yea ok I hate them now

[@mikeh6286]

Daniel Erlandsson mentioned that Jeff's ideas for "Will to power" weren't rejected because of style but timing. The songs had already been written. Lets see what the next album brings. AE🤘

[@mikeh6286]

Check out the Coffee with Ola episode with Jeff (2019). He mentions that Arch Enemy will work with some 7 string stuff in the future. That could be really exciting...

[@paladinminipedro707]

well....angela is the manager and her and alissa are femenistic nazis. they actually hate their fans and have said so, but people still like AE?

[@elijahloveell8809]

@@paladinminipedro707 When did they say that they hate their fans? I’m curious to know

[@crucifixmegabuster95]

This should be called the list of hypocrisy. When a band like in flames goes out and tries to change sound a bit we hate it. Doesn't change we hate it. My god metal fans are as petty as ever

[@marc2000z]

Make your decision people. I don't mind if metal/hard rock bands change their sound (ex: Metallica, Queen) and but I also don't mind if some bands have the same signature style over and over again (ex: AC/DC, Motörhead)

[@Gregbaltzer]

But you can keep the core sound and still do something new every album, and grow as a band artistically. I don't think you need to change your sound much to bring in some new flavors, or try something you've never done on an album before. Just to keep it fresh. I loved Arch Enemy up until the Chaos album when they just stopped feeling fresh, and just to feel like they were just milking a formula. I love Motorhead too, but at a point I stopped being excited for a new Motorhead release because I knew exactly what it was going to sound like, but I still bought them all. I get excited for new Voivod, Enslaved, Corrosion of Conformity, and Satyricon albums because I don't know what I'm going to get. I kind of feel like Testament of locked onto a tiring formula too. The new Testament album did nothing for me.

[@Gregbaltzer]

I do think there was more variation in earlier Motorhead albums then there was in the last 5-6 albums, which did all seem to be the same. They had several band member changes earlier on in their career and that effected their sound quite a bit, but then they got a steady line up of Lemmy, Phil, and Micky Dee and things didn't change much sound wise after that.

[@crucifixmegabuster95]

moremetalthanyou71 I feel you. But me as a fan love good and bad from my favorite bands. I'll criticize when needed. Arch enemy latest album the more I listen the more I like it

[@markgaizley9994]

Moron lml

[@staticsyndrome2011]

Yo, my fellow CKN fans, come visit the livestreams! Seriously, we want to see you guys there. We love getting to know other people and we literally just talk about whatever comes up! Of course, it's all for charity so if you have the money, donate :)

[@toad15fan]

I'm coming Static bby

[@staticsyndrome2011]

How fucking ironic is it that I never got notified for last night's stream?!

[@pathosis]

The common remark I've heard about them, is the main reason the band is getting noticed, is because Alissa brings sex appeal to the group. Whether that's true or not, she definately gets quite a bit of notoriety, which is interesting coming from a music genre that honestly gets overlooked in the public eye. Yet, she's been turning heads in the mainstream music world. You'll see her on covers and article clips fairly often as of late...Very intresting.

[@22Vnnami]

I guess I'll be the first to say I still like Arch Enemy, including some of the Alissa stuff, though I do think there's been some creative stagnation.

[@lovemetal4884]

Now do 5 reasons why i hate myself

[@coverkillernation]

+Love Metal 5. Depression 4. The feeling that life is a waste of time 3. Corporate greed 2. Global Warming 1. Need to poop

[@chiefbrownfart]

#1 is soooo true hahaha

[@lovemetal4884]

coverkillernation Everything is true except number 1 GG

[@jesvs666.]

coverkillernation best comment I've read

[@roseR3AL]

@@coverkillernation My Top 5: 5. Commenting for no reason 4. Not creative at all 3) Bad at English 4) Corona pandemic 5) Need to Jerk off before sleeping

[@mojavesudz]

love ARCH EMEMY with Angela, and with Alissa

[@ajmaeenmahtab8456]

The both suck, female vocals suck.

[@citizenerased174]

Am I the only one who likes Alissa in Arch Enemy? War Eternal is a great album. As far as Will to Power, i liked it at first but then after a few listens I realized it isn't really all that great.

[@Ravenz91]

I like her

[@trvecvltfvckboy]

War Eternal is really good, not my favorite by them but still like it. I hate WtP though. Personally, I prefer Alissa in the Agonist over AE.

[@kriskelly2411]

I'm with ya. War Eternal is EXCELLENT! Will to Power is good, but not great. ROCK ON!

[@petethorley5998]

Gamma Angel I loved her in the agonist . However she's much better in AE. She's happier and feels more at home and she's doing more of what she wants. Plus the song writing in the agonist (as good as they are) is completely 3rd rate compared to AE. The only thing I miss from her time in the agonist is her amazing singing voice. As for the agonist, they're pretty terrible with Vicky imo.

[@nighthawk82]

I like Alissa in Arch Enemy. Same opinion here, War Eternal is much better than Will to Power.

[@DVCMiller]

Anyone who hates Arch Enemy has never seen them live. One of the best shows ive ever been to

[@aspexpl]

I discovered them as they were opening for Nightwish. I didn't know anything about the band, my first impression was that empty stage with a glorious backdrop and that looked pretty badass. Then they came and this blue-hair fury was growling like hell, and I thought "wow, I think I should educate myself about this band". Which I did. This said, it's true that AE has its own flavour since the beginning, with composition automatisms some would call "gimmicks". You could say the same thing about Slayer. Anyway, they spare no effort to promote their last album and they tour like crazy. They are one of the few modern bands to "carry the cross" of heavy metal when the metallica-era bands will retire, so they deserve our respect and our support.

[@xhonda450r]

You are so honest!!! Thank you! I support you, and share your content. Please, keep educating the metal community with your thoughtful insight

[@marktaylor7162]

I think you missed quite a big one: the accusation that their studio recordings are overproduced. I've heard/read this many times and honestly think it's nonsense. Nobody really accuses Iron Maiden of being overproduced and this is probably a more apt comparison than the ones certain metal fans are making, since Maiden are obviously a huge influence on the Arch Enemy sound. The idea that because it's somewhere within the genre of death metal it therefore must be 'raw' or even downright badly produced, otherwise it isn't 'authentic' is just another example of the way fans tend to insist on putting everything into restrictive boxes.

[@dadeleemurphy85]

angela was my first introduction to Arch Enemy

[@claudemartin5907]

He's so happy that it's simply because of the sound. But now everyone hates them because they hate photographers.

[@TSPH1992]

I never hated their music. I respect them as musicians. But I just think their lyrics are way too generic. Just not my cup of tea

[@kkdeveauxgue5492]

When Arch Enemy came out with Angela,I was floored when I saw her sing my Apocalypse,Then Allissa came and blew my mind out with War Eternal,I was just blowed away,she was so excited and grateful to be in that band,to me she really lifted that band up and gave them a more melodic intense feel, I'm really not allowed to listen to them but some of their songs just grab me and pull me in,I like them too,and the guy that has Alissa,you know he's grateful And blessed,Wow..!!!..😄😄🙂🙂..Arch Enemy Rules,I don't miss Angela but I wish her the best at what she's doing now...That was a fine woman when I saw the Making of My Apocalypse,and some of her other videos,She had her Awesome time, I'm just glad they were able to find someone better.Alissa Rips..!!!😉😉☺☺

[@GordonHeaney]

Criminal underuse of Jeff Loomis

[@mikezeitgeist2]

Hell yeah. There style didn't change one iota. It's like he's not even in the band. Please let Jeff Loomis do something else.

[@zombieslayerz1]

Hey CKN are you gonna review Nothing More, Foo Fighters, or Prophets of Rage?

[@YouTubeViolates1A]

zombieslayerz1 He's more of a metal guy.

[@theriffnotebook8412]

Chad Kroeger He does hard rock every now and then

[@mikezeitgeist2]

#1 reason: Arch Enemy is wasting Jeff Loomis's talent.

[@julianfelton3068]

Arch Enemy has it's flaws like most bands do but by this point if you don't like them despite the changes and things they perfected then don't listen. Theirs nothing worst than a bunch of whining elitist masquerading as metalheads trying to make opinions law or truth like it has any weight to it. Johan was okay not that great of vocalist but I do see what makes Burning Bridges a great album. Angela is a fucking beast for her vocal style and the dismissive towards then and now is pathetic. To me it seems like a lot of men scared or emasculated by the fact a woman can be equally as talented as them. My guess is a lot of people were pissed because she sounded better than some of their favorite shitty vocalists were. And the final and most biggest Issues being with Alissa and the lyrics. First of the lyrics aren't that bad sure some are better than others. But it's obvious whatever their speaking on they like to get to the point instead of a bunch of intellectual fat that seems pointless while getting to the meat(message) of the song. Besides in most cases Amott's lyrics are the ones that are bad but some of them I didn't mind it was that big of deal honestly. And the ones written by the vocalist showed more thought and complexity if it wanted too. Lastly all the hate placed on Alissa is completely sexist and not too mention overall wrong on all levels. This woman if most of you heard The Agonist knows this girl is fucking insane with her vocal style and clearly indicates why that band so damn unique and on the rise to better things. But because Alissa is pretty and has joined AE somehow it's all about looks as if she wasn't out with this band for the last three and half years keeping this band alive with hard work and dedication. Alissa being pretty has nothing to do with the vocals in Arch Enemy that's just the little boys being immature as usual. Angela handpicked her because she knew what she did the Agonist took fucking skill and talent not looks. So every time you diss Alissa you're really dissing Angela because their friends and she chose her a reason. Don't like it leave then and listen to something else AE I'm pretty sure will do fine without you! Great video CKN!!!

[@johanna7338]

Arch Enemy is my favourite band, I Love it😍

[@PSJukkis]

They used to be good but now they are just way too generic. Michael Amott can't write interesting riffs anymore and Christopher leaving didn't help either. Also I hate that some fans like the band only because the "superhot female vocalist".

[@slipknota7xeg]

I don't hate Arch Enemy. Just do not care for their music. Doesn't grab my attention.

[@MrCapone1996]

STLBLUESLAMBOFGOD Alissa grabs me tho;D

[@gokusondbz]

Personally for me the album that made me a fan was Khaos Legion.

[@45banshee]

I remember when I bought Creative Killings by Sinister and I looked through the booklet. In it said vocals by Rachel. I was taken back by this cause that was the first time I ever heard a woman do gutteral vocals

[@wilcohoutman2352]

5 Reasons People Hate Dimmu Borgir

[@TeaTime...]

that's possible ?

[@Rekko82]

#1 Because they attacked Christianity by burning churches. Not cool at all!

[@Rekko82]

Black metal is garbage. Nobody listen to black metal anymore. The only listenable black metal band was Venom because they were not serious about being "Satan's soldiers". I hope those black metal dudes go to Hell after death. The same place Lemmy, Dimebag and Chuck live!

[@MosoKaiser]

Rekko P. you gotta try a bit harder with that trolling...

[@Rekko82]

MosoKaiser No, I don't have to! I am happy with just telling the truth!

[@BatcaveComics83]

I saw a comment on an Arch Enemy video the other day which said "people treat Arch Enemy like the next big thing", and I'm sitting there thinking...but they have existed for like 20 odd years.

[@neugey]

I don't hate Arch, but I'm indifferent about them because I see them as a supergroup of sorts. Getting Loomis reunited with Nevermore and Amott back with Carcass would be far more appealing to me.

[@australianmade86]

I loved Wages Of Sin and the previous albums. The rest got boring and using Alyssa just shows they wanted to continue using it as a gimmick I agree with the Carcass and Nevermore points

[@petethorley5998]

I actually checked nevermore out recently as I wasn't too familiar with them. Musically I think they're great. But the vocal style is horrible and doesn't fit the music style at all!! Be better as a backing vocal set for dragonforce

[@petethorley5998]

I actually checked nevermore out recently as I wasn't too familiar with them. Musically I think they're great. But the vocal style is horrible and doesn't fit the music style at all!! Be better as a backing vocal set for dragonforce

[@mikezeitgeist2]

Pete Thoriey Check out Jeff Loomis's solo albums. There amazing.

[@megaduck7965]

Carcass sound better with their current line up than they did with the reunion line up . Therefor Mike can stay in AE .

[@zaynakhtar6925]

A lot of people say that Arch Enemy use Alissa/a woman in general for sex appeal, but this is in no way true; if she wanted, Alissa could show off her body but she *doesn't*. Just because a band has a frontwoman doesn't mean they use her to get fame.

[@Thrashmetaltherapy]

Honestly I don't think Angela was any good but she's without a doubt one of the most important people in modern metal history. Without her metal probably wouldn't have moved forward nearly as much

[@anthonymitzie2462]

I like Arch Enemy but it's not sexist if you don't. It's an opinion

[@jayjaytee9944]

I have always dug Amotts guitar tone and melodic playing first and foremost, the eye candy is a bonus.

[@hvitekristesdod]

They haven't been worth listening to since Angela left

[@ausphere_7397]

The problem is with the elitist metalhead who thinks they're cool if they listen to only the most underground or heaviest of music (according to them) and put down all other who they think is not their cup of tea. These narrow minded creature are what shame heavy metal

[@iBackshift]

Im 50 (old metalhead) and have a love for Arch Enemy. Album Burning Bridges a fave album in my metal listening life. Johan's vocals with the music was a marriage made in heaven for one fave Melo-Death albums I've ever listened to. Truly I was sad when Johan's gone. Then came along Wages of Sin with the song Burning Angel. Loved the album so much, I went and got an Arch Enemy Tattoo on my chest which was the first tattoo shown on the AE website years ago and picture of Angela getting me in a headlock at Milwaukee Metalfest. AE's "sound" has progressed to an alteration outside of the realm of sound I enjoy listening to. To me AE is kinda boring now. I enjoy Alyssa Gluz vocals, but my ear does not deeply enjoy the combination of AG's vox and latest AE sound. I think Arch Enemy has got rather pedestrian....dull....plain. Its nothing to do with the singers (Angela & Alyssa) themselves, just the whole package is dull. To me the package of Liiva and album Burning Bridges, I would have love to see another album come from that. On my ears, Burning Bridges was AE's peak and long slow downhill from there since then. As I say "package" because although I love Liiva's vocals but the efforts in Carnage/Hearse/Non-exist and all them albums, I only find the song The Devil Incarnate from NonExist Deus Decepter a "total" package deal; rocks right out, thoroughly pleasing to my ears which one who listened to early AE will find is the closest to the old AE sound. For me not "hate" but rather "pining" or "love lorn" for something in the past I miss dearly. I miss Liiva Arch Enemy with the darkness of Liiva's voice and AE sound, breaking out into melodic-rocking-the-fuck-out guitar solos. Liiva's vocals "forced" the guitarwork to break out of the agony and darkness into energetic rocking guitar solos. Liiva's vocal forced lots of guitar play. There just aint that kind of sound anymore. AE sounds like 20 other bands nowadays. Can you blame me wrong for my opinion of the wonderful works of Liiva's vocals tied to this particular early AE sound is "beauty in darkness"? kzbin.info/www/bejne/npzYfWuEoZ14Z8U kzbin.info/www/bejne/bafXm5mpltN-paM if you can believe this song below is 21 years old, the timeless... kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGezhGWtpKlsnM0 The breakup of Liiva and AE has robbed the heavy metal nation (including me) of future greatest Melo-Death albums possible of all time.

[@alexswift456]

Can you do 5 reasons why people hate Steven wilson, here would be my suggestions for reasons (note: I don't agree with any of these) 1. He changes his sound (stupid) 2. His voice is weak (understandable but weak) 3. He made opeth soft (really stupid) 4. He is arrogant (stupid) 5. He is copying Floyd/crimson (possibly understandable but still not a good reason)

[@williams.5952]

6. Overproduces I don't agree with this at all, but I hear it a lot

[@Daniel.Miranda]

Alex Swift every progband has some king and floyd inspiration

[@kaelanmcalpine2011]

Unless you're Symphony X, they like Rush.

[@InconsistentTechDad]

I wasn't into them before. Hadn't listened to them until a few months ago to be honest. After this video I am curious to go listen to their older stuff and hear out the changes in lead singers. From only listening to a few of the singles from their newest album (KZbin reccommend music videos) I honestly just kinda had a "meh kinda generic" response.

[@mephistopheleslair8466]

Once Human is a pretty new melodic death metal band, they're really good.

[@kenmanius]

They had a hand in spearheading the poopier side of the new wave of american heavy metal. But that did introduce people to other stuff. Glad that Mastodon is pretty much the new Metallica though.

[@strazburg]

Kenny C i thought trivium were supposed to be the new metallica?

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

They're a Swedish band

[@wenxingwang7867]

talking about "Generic Melodic Death Metal", can we have a "5 reasons ppl hate Current Children of Bodom"?..

[@SnowTheJamMan]

I mean they're not as good as they were, but they're far from generic imo

[@papabillydeth4723]

COB is very complex, the only thing about the band I don't like is their background at concerts that says COBHC, they have a cool logo and album covers but they don't use them

[@YouTubeViolates1A]

Isn't most melodic death metal generic? I mean, I don't see anything unique with Amon Amarth. Hell, unless it's technical death metal, slam, or brutal, it's not really unique death metal. But that's just my opinion.

[@TeaTime...]

melodeath isn't generic, because of the viable use of a keyboard and possibly other different instruments combined with screams/ growls, allowing it to sound the exact opposite of generic.

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

1. Kalmah is better

[@mojavesudz]

coverkillernation, Um I was wondering how do you compile your information, are these your personal thoughts, or are you talking to people in bars, at concerts, or while your walking down the street. Are trolling all chat sites, stuff on the net. Just wondering, not being a smart ass or anything. Just wondering. thanks

[@TheKnightBlade4]

Would one of the reasons be that they make corperate "metal" for the lowest common denominator?

[@wazzap500]

TheKnightBlade4 Define "corperate "metal"" Define "lowest common denominator"

[@TheKnightBlade4]

UrbanDanger ! music is focus group tested for mass appeal, from the attractiveness of the singer to the plug-in aspect of band members who don't have real influence. Everything about the band is so cold and calculated. They don't do anything edgy, risky, innovative, etc. So painfully boring and forgettable, songs follow basic formula, I could go on and on but I've already forgot anything specific about there music...

[@wazzap500]

TheKnightBlade4 Never was a fan of Arch Enemy but the Lyrics on this Album were really unsettling to me.

[@joanthemad5894]

Thank you

[@markgaizley9994]

Mr Coverkiller, 4 very good points sir, and 1 rather confusing one: 'don't like the sound'. The guitars? The vocals? Sharlee's bass? Daniel's drumming? This music is called metal. If ppl don't like metal why are they listening in the first place? I am a massive promoter/advocator of ffbm, ffdm, ffhm female metal, and i agree with you that this blatent sexism is vomitable - and stems from envy, jealousy small dicks, whatever, and belongs only in the neolithic age. The problem (with all problems in the multiverse) is wording: like elitist, purist etc etc. ppl (usually guys), like to be part of a clique and feel they are cool if they are in a club. Female black, death gothic ans extreme metal in general, is often fantastic... AND SUPERIOR to their male equivalents: Onielar (my wife) can hold her own against any bm guy you care to name, and DNS is probably the greatest band in this multuverse. Alissa, Angela, Sandra from Nekrodelirium, Vanja Obscure and Cadaveria are equally competent, as is Nina from Eastern Front. I am a purist and an elitist, but not for male metal but for Metal full stop, period or whatever. As you say we pride ourselves for being open to allcomers so please lets cut the crap and open ourselves to female metal ffs! Btw it is not elitist or purists that dislike ffm or female metal, nor male metal musicians, they are happy to see our sisters carrying the flag, it is bigotted wife-beating talentless wannabe fans wherein the problem lies! Hail Metal and hail female metal, even in our much maligned cousin, metalcore. Judge on ability, creativity and moshability...not gender plese...give she's a chance 😫 lml

[@carmenvictoria8961]

Everyone Say Love... 🖤 Love Of ARCH ENEMY, Hater's Always Be Hater's, I Love Arch Enemy. Angela Is Manager Of Arch Enemy, That's Why Angela Take Alissa Take Over Arch Enemy, I Love Both Of Them. YOU ROCK !!!! 🖤

[@Thrashtildeath19]

could u do 5 reasons why people hate wage war? I'm curious to see wat people say. I'm a huge fan of them btw

[@RikessGFX]

will you be reviewing the contortionist's new album?

[@Nigtmaredemon]

Eluveitie is the only metal band I know where the fans didn't throw a hissy fit because the singer was replaced...

[@Erikturbulens]

From what I've seen, many actually think that the switch from Anna to Fabienne was for the better, which I agree with. Good that there for once was an at least relatively peaceful transition.

[@Nigtmaredemon]

The new girl has got more a folk style of singing which suits the band well. And now we have a new band Cellar darling which I heard is actually good.

[@Erikturbulens]

I agree, she's way more folk-ish. I find that she also has a lot more energy. Seeing her perform, you could see that she genuinely loves what she's doing, which is something that makes the whole concert experience way better. As for Cellar Darling, to me it's hit or miss. As long as they don't make more ultra-repetetive songs like Avalanche, they're worth a good listen.

[@jamiemacmillan4056]

I have read a lot of people that said they use the female vocalists for advertising reasons. I'd have thought you'd address it

[@Gregbaltzer]

My Arch Enemy experience was this: I discovered them on a Metal compilation DVD. There were two videos that stood out to me one was Therion's To Mega Therion, and Arch Ememy's We Will Rise. Both I thought were really good songs. I played the shit out of We Will Rise and quickly became a fan of the band. I went and bought Anthems, then Wages, and loved them, then Doomsday, and Rise of the Tyrants came out and I loved those too. I never felt Arch Enemy brought anything new to metal, but what they did was really good. When they did the Chaos album I just started to feel liked they locked onto a formula, and were just milking it to death. The band started to look like a Nascar pit crew, and their songs just seemed to centered on teen rebellion, which is okay giving the key demographic, but I couldn't relate anymore. I don't hate them, just got bored of them. They are talented musicians, who are talented song writers, but just keep milking the same formula. And I don't like Alissa nearly as much as Angela. Metal doesn't have to be original, lets face it that just gets harder and harder with each generation, as long as it's done really well. And there was a point around Anthems, Wages, and Doomsday, that Arch Enemy were doing metal really well.

[@ausphere_7397]

I dunno man, but me, i still love the band until now. Maybe because AE is the first band that brought me to metal.

[@gustavocolin193]

Here's 5 reasons why people hate Arch enemy Angela gossow,angela gossow,angela gossow,angela gossow,angela gossow and here I'll give you a sixth one the lack of balls on amott's behalf and also Loomis

[@gaargy1]

I wish they would let her sing more. it's that simple, really. she has an amazing voice and was able to weave in between growling and singing when with the agonist. now she is limited in AE and if I had to guess, not by her choice.

[@adamtheawesomeperson6490]

1: Lame Lyrics

[@Rekko82]

Most metal bands. Some people like Kreator have brilliant lyrics but they don't seem to step out of their comfort zone. Slayer have had much poor lyrics - some of them are even ridiculous, but it is some humor shit.

[@joanthemad5894]

2 Generic sound

[@jonathanwelker9554]

3: wasting the talent of jeff loomis

[@psychosalad6653]

Some songs are better than others, I’m there for Angela’s vocals and Michael Amott

[@teeheeman__1283]

At first i didnt like Arch Enemy, but after hearing Nemesis and hearing how Amott write and performs his solos, i really started to really like the band. The fact that a female can sing like a guy in a death metal band is fucking metal as fuck.

[@dogwood8031]

Male or female that type of vocal technique is ridiculous.

[@emgee9775]

It is and it always makes me laugh. Reminds me of the ‘coookieee’ monster!

[@andersonsmith8625]

For me I think the problem is they wouldn't be as famous if they didn't have a woman. Take that away they're good, not great imo

[@payazokoki]

they got boring, predictable, recycled, repetitive and formulatic.

[@jammanastic]

Long overdue CKN but Nice video

[@jasonje125]

I'm a fan of Dream Theater, Metallica, Megadeth, Pantera, Sepultura, Carcass, Alice in Chains, 4 Non Blondes, Pearl Jam, Radiohead ( -------- x tons of times of other bands.) Yes I was a 90's kid But after decades of years, as I grew older now I strongly got to love Arch Enemy who give me the best happiness ever as I felt as I was into Sonata Arctica or Within Temptation before them. What the hell? I just love them and will be the fan of them my whole life whoever says whatever. We should not see the crust but inside, I mean music itself. leave out the rest. so why not love them? it's just a shortage of their brain capacity.

[@aryinc]

5 reasons people hate arch enemy. they've got 5 band members right???, well there ja go. disneylanddeathmetal, it's more of a show then music that gets you pumped like the bigger thrashers or death bands.

[@marc2000z]

#1: understandable #2: it's subjective #3: stupid reason to hate them #4: it was a unique decision #5: eh, doesn't make sense

[@xhonda450r]

Marc Andrew Narimatsu he makes complete sense! There is opinion, and then there are facts. He is speaking from an educated stand point

[@mikezeitgeist2]

I hate them for wasting Jeff Loomis's talent.

[@Roonagu]

You can say that problem is that Melodic death metal is "old" genre, so its almost "impossible" to be innovative..but in contrast to Arch Enemy, take a look at Dark Tranquillit, these guys are undeniably melodic death metal band, but they are still evolving their sound and every album seems fresh...while Amott is stuck in the same melodic and rhythm patterns for 20 years.

[@tangodelta7809]

Why do people on here say the change between female vocals is why old fans hate it? They literally had male vocals in the past. I grew up on silver wing, not Angela. I don't give a shit about switching female vocals, I hate that when they switched from male to female vocals the guitars and theme changed too.

[@SolidBren]

I think people are a little too concerned about originality these days. I'm a little bit less picky and I am just sort of a melodic death metal junkie. Her voice sounds just as awesome as plenty of other male voices in death metal. And the fact that her voice isn't as guttural as most of the males makes her sound slightly more thrash metal, which I am actually more into. Arch Enemy seems pretty awesome and I would totally want to see them, if they came to my area.

[@sabbathgoat4248]

Well, I don’t like harsh vocals done by females. However this has nothing to do with sexism. I just don’t like the way it sounds. Men have naturally deeper voices and therefore things like death growls suit much better for them. You can sometimes find a woman who can pull it off, but such occasions are rare.

[@mojavesudz]

ARCH EMENY is not generic. Don't like um, don't listen to them

[@jstdust]

I like old arch enemy with Angela! They're very first two albums is fucking disgusting. My personal favourite arch enemy album is Wages of Sin, Doomsday Machine, Anthems of Rebellion.

[@slowmercy69]

The problem is Alissa... to be honest, I loved her in Kamelot's albums and in agonist (Not too bright on the second band which is basically her original band) but she's imo, got a major role in Arch enemy becoming shit

[@Matias47507]

now reading te comments seems like there's a lot of people who hates arch enemy well, i like the band, i love angela and alissa

[@COBfan1996]

Anthems of rebellion is still my favourite album from arch enemy. I've never been a huge fan of arch enemy, but I do own every album and am proud to say so. They're a good band, but I do feel that after 2007 they've turned into "generic" metal. I mean their music keeps getting lighter and lighter by the album, and the basic -intro, riff, generic guitar melody chorus, riff- formula is just not for me. I still like them, but they've definitely done the same thing as Nightwish; gone too mainstream to make anything "original" anymore. Still like em though

[@lukeOSHEA84]

It says 5 reason why most people hate archenemy! As I read almost all these comments 70% of the people like archenemy as do I! They're a great band with great lyrics

[@scarseven7855]

5 reasons people hate metal elitists.

[@noahb4645]

Just the fact that Alissa White-Gluz can go that low AND growl just shows that women can do anything that men can do. Am I right or am I right

[@poop1234794]

Alissa is a bad example, and she can't really go that low. Check out Simone Pluijmers for a better female growler.

[@thewanderingbard8455]

They can't pee while standing up as easily. And their difference in muscle mass make them not as great at sports.

[@noahb4645]

Yeah but they DO however have women's sports and no I'm NOT a feminist but I DO however believe in women's rights

[@Ravenz91]

So can Emi from Serenity In Murder

[@noahb4645]

Matt Trujillo wtf dumb question comin your way but are you related to ROB Trujillo

[@dr.weavile6165]

The number 1 reason I don't like them is because I know they can do much better.

[@RChB]

Arch Enemy for me prioritized other elements that have nothing to do with music as soon as they started hiring female singers. ($$$)

[@JXC25]

The background music is awesome.

[@foxmoulder7724]

arch songs are just plain less aggressive then they use to be, its the only thing that really bothers me. all bands do that with age ofc even the ones i like 😭 i just sound like a broken record here....but 9/10 of these melodic deathmetal bands popping up are just riding the name instead of admiting they're metalcore or screamo which is some slightly less desirable shit in my opinion

[@standup5537]

Chris Cornell was sitting behind him the whole time and he looked bored.

[@jochentram9301]

Just a note: Gossow's last name rhymes with "crow", not with "how". Or at least that's the closest you'll get in English.

[@madeline3868]

Metal fans always think their opinion is the undeniable truth. We've all done it at some point don't deny it. But seriously, all metal fans are judgmental snobs.

[@Caesar2k1]

I think arch Enemy has some potential in experimenting with 7 string guitars with Jeff Loomis being part of the band

[@mickyart]

Love Arch Enemy - Happy that Angela is growling and not being a housewife or something :-P

[@angerroom]

Angela has a great female death vox, but a great female death vox is equivalent to an average male death vox. Fact not sexist, deal with it.

[@wesleysobik9137]

They don't even use Loomis, that's why

[@christopherabson9067]

Fuck all that shit, I've been listening to metal for almost all my life, and only recently came across arch enemy. The first song I heard was war eternal I thought It was the coolest thing that she has as much power as she does. Is it as powerful as a male? No. But she can still get the vocals down! I'm a fan.

[@TylerMcCrackerJacker]

I dislike the woman vocals not because im sexist, but because i think its not as good as a dudes vocals, but that's just my opinion

[@palavos3891]

Arch Ebemy is an average band not bad just average. Angela and Alyssa sure are hot though.

[@djoneforever]

One of the Awesomest band ever.

[@Emmryrose]

The like Arch Enemy, but I'll admit I liked her better with The Agonist

[@poop1234794]

1st 3 albums are great. They jumped off a cliff when Johan left.

[@jackko21]

I personally dont have a issue with women in metal i mean i love mythic an underrated with old school death metal band and i love girlschool but with arch enemy i dont know why to me it just feels more like a gimmick where with girlschool and mythic it felt more ernest is that the word and another reason im not a fan of arch enemy is because i hate melodic death metal and i feel they are overproduced and their music is boring

[@Sannypowa]

The only bad I hate is Pantera, I love Arch Enemy

[@theriffnotebook8412]

I think periphery should be covered at some point

[@citizenerased174]

The Riff Notebook The vocals I really dont like, but the music is great.

[@satanskitty5341]

People hate because its djent

[@kaelanmcalpine2011]

Though they're arguably the first of their kind, along with Animals As Leaders.

[@a.od-reszki4674]

Because Alyssa gave all teenage metal girls body dysmorphia lol

[@danmartin7908]

5 reasons why people hate Rings of Saturn

[@satanskitty5341]

Dan Martin I like Rings, but I gotta admit: that list would be too easy.

[@danmartin7908]

I'm a fan as well and yes, it would be easy but maybe it could lead to some different reasons why rather than the typical points of interest. I've never heard CKN say people don't like a band "because their is too much going on" in any of his 5 reasons why vids (haven't seen all his vids so maybe he has). I get that every now and again when share Rings with people, metal and non-metalheads.

[@jesvs666.]

Dan Martin 1 not metal

[@Brunetto46]

please jeff go back in nevermore!

[@mikezeitgeist2]

Or, let him do anything else that his style could actually be heard in.

[@darkahnubis]

Brunetto46 Whats REALLY disappointing about their new album is that Jeff did NOT get one single writing credit in their music! I was really looking forward to hearing their new album with Jeff in the band to see how Arch Enemy's music would "progress". What's even more disappointing is that Michael's brother, Chris, co-wrote a song. And he's not in the freaking band!! Major disappointment!!

[@mikezeitgeist2]

Well, at least Jeff has 3 great solo albums, and Warrel Dane's new Sanctuary is very good too.

[@Slashhead1]

Jeff should go to Megadeth.

[@embracerodusk2537]

IMO the last really badass Arch Enemy album was Wages of Sin. Everything before that was great stuff, but everything since has felt more commercialized while each album hasn't really had it's own identity since Anthems of Rebellion in 2003. The songs all feel very similar and interchangeable from album to album....too predictable. Whereas back on the Black Earth album all the way through Wages of Sin, there was much more innovation there, as well as just a harder edge to the playing and a more natural vibe.

[@NPC-30]

I could never get into them. Too generic.

[@PrinceEmber323]

Why did Angela leave the band anyways?