5 Things I Hate About My Porsche Panamera

[@yuchoob]

So the visibility out the back is bad in a dark garage. How is it when you have your eyes closed?

[@Bespoke_Whips]

I just picked up a Panamera GTS 970.1 and so far I absolutely love it but I can definitely see and agree with everything you’ve stated in this video.

[@EchoRhythmMusic]

I wanted to hate on this video but this guy is spot on lol... I LOVE my Panamara but yes...I have the SAME issues

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

Wasn't easy coming up with things I didn't I like. Thanks for watching!

[@joeshmuckatelli4447]

I was reluctant to watch this video for months due to its title since I love mine so much. I couldn't imagine what you could say, but eventually I ran out of other Panamera vids and watched this. I was pleasantly surprised. I totally get your issues. I have a 2013 twin Turbo 4.8 Liter V8, same color as yours, and it's not only gorgeous but it's incredible to drive. I agree with all of your choices even though I dont personally "hate" those features. I hate that it is expensive to fix/maintain. Well worth it, though.

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

Thanks for Watching !

[@nataliegrn17]

What do you estimate it costs for maintenance every 100k miles?

[@ghostlandgrand64]

I completely agree with you on the radio deck. I just recently purchased a 2010 Panamera S, that I found on car gurus at a horrible dealership in Atlanta. Anyhow I quickly realized how difficult it is to navigate the simplest features on the deck. Notably it is a 2010 and it’s 13yrs old but the deck is just lame. To boot, the car didn’t come with a reverse camera. So even though it’s reverse cam compatible, it’s a pain to back this car into a space, only relying on the back up sensors. Especially with the tinted windows the car came with and especially at night. To remedy this, I plan on getting a new Pioneer Apple I touch deck to replace the old one. After that I’ll definitely have a reverse cam installed. Outside of that, my only other issue seems to be electrical, regarding chassis system failure display, that pops up often. Not the cars fault, it’s the dealerships and mines for not having a mechanic inspect the car before I purchased it. Hopefully tomorrow, when I go to my appointment with a respected local Porsche mechanic. I’ll have this issue resolved because I really love my car.

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

Good luck and Thanks for Watching!

[@anthonywilliams3822]

Did you get it resolved?

[@TheoSmith249]

You can vinyl wrap the running boards. You can paint you clock matte black.

[@sluggingbread]

Love the video man everything is so genuine, straight forward and packed with content when it comes to your Panamera. I'm trying to save for this car as I think it's a steal for the specs...I really hope by the time I grab one you're still banging out this content man, haha. Thanks for bringing up the parking since I'm in NJ and parallel parking will happen eventually

[@5litreho]

Good job, very informative!! We just bought a 2015 Panamera Turbo S. I can relate to everything you pointed out. Not looking to boost the power, as it is plenty powerful....

[@doejon6821]

Hey man, I’m doing a lot of research after falling in love with the Porsche Panamera. Ideally, I would want a V-8 GTS …. I was told the 2015’s we’re a great choice for used Panamera as they have worked out most of the kinks /problems since its debut in 2010……… I understand it’s an expensive car to keep up, but someone mentioned it cost them 15 grand to replace air shocks… I just couldn’t afford something like that.… I mean a grand or two here, or there is expected, but 15 g’s ?? Have you heard of any major problems happening with these vehicles? I would greatly appreciate any information you have. Thank you.

[@nataliegrn17]

​@@doejon6821the air shocks do cost a fortune when they go, and can be replaced with conventional shocks struts to avoid that cost.

[@soneraydgn7229]

You had good points! I also don’t like some Porsche models(after 2017) still do not have the Keyless entry and start option! Also, there is no next button to change the song on steering wheel! 😮 it’s pretty annoying when you want to change to next song! After driving all the German Cars, and thinking that how the Porsche Engineers think about that! 🤷🏻‍♂️ Porsche is still European!

[@shanereno3378]

I have a Panamera GTS and it’s awesome! She’s a screaming beast!

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

The GTS is the way to go. Thanks for Watching!

[@greedyambitons4320]

Ur #1 complaint i never knew i complained about... I was actually looking for parts too and couldn't find nothing..

[@red_j_ruff_wood6384]

for the clock, put some non-reflective tape over the chrome top. problem solved.

[@pmas27]

Apart from the clock, which you could just pop a simple analogue on over it with double sided tape plus put anti reflective tape on its surround for the reflection, the other stuff is just minor quibbles to me as you knew the dimensions before you bought it.

[@KomosejamaB]

Would love to have your Porches problems

[@pomaze1]

What more power upgrade to the turbo. I’ve got a 2011. Just awesome 🦘🇦🇺🤯🤯🤯

[@halfmanhalfamazing191]

I've got a 2010 turbo. Power is insane. The reason I went with the turbo instead of the "S" and GTS because I knew I would eventually want more. They also have tunes for the turbo. Not sure about the "S".

[@Petrolawe_Q8]

you can upgrade the air intake the throttle body the exhaust system and there are some good race chips

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

@Petrolawe_Q8 Everything I have found is for the turbo models. I wanted to upgrade the intake plenum but the company that makes them said there would be no benefit on the NA V8. I have found a tune for it but It's $1500 for only a 10 Horsepower gain. Didn't feel it wad worth it. I have changed the mufflers to a higher flowing set. Thanks for Watching!

[@Pliskin943]

Love this car and great vid! Keep up the good work 💪🏼

[@WPI94]

There are ECU tuners out there and a few brands of body kit mfg from Germany and Asia. You can do the pedal master mod to change the throttle response too. But if you are driving around in sport plus often, I can't see how that's not adequate.

[@jeffrenz14]

You got my attention at “guns and horse power” 👍🏼

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

Me too. I thought, great, another American gun nut.

[@thomashelm6931]

I have a 2010 Panamera S and I love it! True, regarding the little irritating "features" that you mentioned. But I don't have the clock, as I don't have the system associated with it. (Chrono sport package). But that's okay with me. I bought it with 66,000 mi on it and had to perform some items that weren't listed on the records. That totaled a few thousand more in cost. But that's fine. I come from ownerships of a few BMWs, including an M3, of recent vintage. I can say, without a doubt, that this car is absolutely fantastic! No regrets about its purchase, even though it was an afterthought, as I just wanted to get rid of the BMW. Ha! Seriously. I suppose I fell in love with the ass end of this vehicle, first. 😂 It's so wide it would be hard to imagine losing any stability in the corners. I have found the infotainment system to be a bit frustrating and not very intuitive, as you have. But it's been fun going down the rabbit holes. Well worth it!

[@mariokroll3470]

What made you switch from BMW to Panamera? I'm currently looking at both.

[@thomashelm6931]

@@mariokroll3470 Hi Mario I have owned Porsche before and BMW 328i, M3 and a 331i. With each and every BMW, I felt like I was sitting on pins and needles wondering what is going to leak next. Even with normal maintenance and I was on thin ice because the warranty on my 335 I expired. And I had an inspection before the warranty wore out, by the authorized BMW dealer, to anticipate any possible issues. They replaced my battery on warranty, which is key with these modern cars. Anyway, my experience with Porsche, again my experience and is subjective, is, is it felt more durable and better engineered. With the exception of the Porsche 996, arguably, they are very reliable vehicles. I did suck it up and pay for an extended warranty on the Panamera, But I negotiated a fair price for it. Any German car deserves a warranty. But the BMW, specifically, can have issues even a day after the warranty wears off. Porsche, not so much. Personally, I like the ride and handling better with the Porsche. But my observations are how he subjective and I urge you to do your research before purchase of any of them.

[@mariokroll3470]

@@thomashelm6931 Thanks. Very helpful. I have a 911 and an X5. Deciding whether to double down on either brand or go in a different direction (MB, for example). The 911 has been fantastic, bought pre-owned. Had a previously 718 blow its turbo, thankfully while under warranty, so I bought a hefty 75K extended warranty for the 911. The X5 is still under warranty but we already had to have the electric steering replaced a year in. Love the car, but am nervous about BMW's mid-life reliability. I definitely know that "pins and needles" feel of being outside warranty and not quite trusting your car. Again, thanks for your input. Doing my research.

[@thomashelm6931]

@@mariokroll3470 Great choice in vehicles! I sold all of my BMWs before they hit 50,000 miles. I've owned Porsches, various models, that are extremely reliable and no issues at over 70,000 mi. As you probably will know, the 911 is probably one of the more reliable vehicles out there, let alone being a Porsche. But, still, a wise move for the extended warranty! I double down on Porsche. A Macan or Cayenne would fill the void of the X5 quite nicely. I drove a six-cylinder Macan And found them to be quite underpowered. But very nice vehicles! Again, best of luck in your search!

[@krububyogaholic7574]

Awesome … honest review. Thanks so much.

[@bmm760036]

I have the 970.2 and my biggest bugbear has definitely got to be the infotainment system. The lack of an Apple CarPlay aftermarket option is deeply frustrating. Great vid!

[@ivorcomment3782]

You can get an after market Car Play / Android Auto (wireless) system. I retrofitted one to mine and it’s awesome - makes the car much more modern. Several KZbin vids of people fitting them (it’s not for the faint hearted)

[@ivorcomment3782]

I’ve kerbed my near side rear wheel 3 times in the last few months!

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

Ouch! I feel like an old man parking a 60's Cadillac, looking for the right spot and then taking my sweet time. Thanks for watching!

[@SiliconEngineer]

As to #4, I hope you’ve not disabled the touchscreen in settings? With the touchscreen enabled, the system is super intuitive.

[@jeffreykilpatrick3592]

It is not a clock, it is a timer for laps. The clock is the digital time in the middle. So your attracted to watching it tick tick? Maybe psychologist? It again is it is. Not a clock. It is a lap timer. Which is useless even in the 911 it is useless. If you want more hp - buy the next upgraded engine models. Buy the next jazzy model up the range.

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

I've always thought the clock was dumb and virtually useless, and ruins an otherwise clean dash. The fact that the bezel reflects on the windshield is a glaring oversight by Porsche. Putting some black vinyl or tape on it would be my solution.

[@cadilacdesert]

Thanks for saying sir

[@Nightbird.]

*I'm sorry for your pain! You deserve better! So give me the car and find something worthy of you!* 😁

[@Ann-ub4mf]

It's a Beautiful car! I saw one for the first time last week in the parking structure at work. 🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

Thanks for watching

[@charlieryan1736]

Thanks for another helpful video

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

Thanks for watching!

[@etsat1]

Anybody around would advise on the possibility of buying a Panamera S Hybrid from 2011 (380 BHP) with 180.000 miles? Any issues? Too risky? The battery for the hybrid can be found easily for replacement? Thanks in advance.

[@nataliegrn17]

Any update on this? What did you decide? What cost estimates did you find?

[@etsat1]

​@@nataliegrn17 I dropped it. A new battery is around 5000 US$, I found a used battery at half the price online in The Netherlands. Too risky to go for it and then only the combustion engine doing all the work. After all climate change is starting to bite. I don't need something like that anyway. If I was a mechanic with heavy duty tools etc., I could have bought it and then replace the battery by myself. As a last note, although it's not a sports luxury car, a new Toyota Prius 2024 delivers 200 BHP and fuel consumption is less than 1L/100km. It's new, 10 years warranty, reliable etc. There are options out there.

[@jahirmora6049]

Leaving the Cayenne out, there is no Porsche that actually has a wide rear view, they are sport cars. PCM can be upgraded to Apple CarPlay. The dash clock is an option. Parking issues? get a Ford Fiesta and finally who would want to increase Porsche's factory 400/500 hp? Those are details, not things to hate in a car like Panameras

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

Dislike would be a better word.

[@delta-1916]

finally someone who can pronounce the name properly

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

Thanks for Watching!

[@ajmiami9990]

Put a boost gage in place is the clock

[@BrockMakesVideosSometimes]

In the newer Panamera, the clock has a "hood" over it that will eliminate that reflections. Good video, thanks

[@dirtlamp3603]

Please upload daily

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

Would love to. Work and kids take up a lot of my time. Thanks for Watching!

[@mcj9714]

Good information, thanks

[@jeffreykilpatrick3592]

Just push the back button on the right --

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

It's taken me a little while but I've figured it out. Thanks for Watching!

[@Topdog715]

I scaped my passenger front wheel going through Taco Bell. 😂😂😂 It's funny now, it wasn't then.

[@InternetDude]

What percentage is the tint on the front and rear side windows? The back side windows look darker. Maybe 35% tint front and 20% rear?

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

I don't know. Car came with tint installed. Thanks for watching!

[@nigelha3699]

the PCM is actually pretty intuitive I feel. We have Cayenne with same system. To go to radio you just push radio button! What could be simpler? The back button, the arrow with a hook is how you go back a screen. There are a few body kits in Europe and certainly forced induction engines can easily be chipped for more power, N/A engines less so.

[@jray2238]

How’s the space inside. I’m 6’6 and currently drive a S550. The S550 fits me like a glove would you say this is similar to size? Thanks and great video.

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

There's plenty of room. I'm 6'2 and there's plenty of room to spare. Thanks for watching!

[@Topdog715]

I would agree with all 5.

[@juancarraballo9731]

well I'm gonna suggest the wheels from the 2010 911 turbo s men they make the panamera look damn near perfect men. thanx for the video

[@stickydh]

Looking at a '13 gts or '15 s e hybrid. Even mileage. Thoughts?

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

'13 GTS all the way.

[@stickydh]

@@mikeshorsepowergarage7577 thanks man!!!

[@moonman2216]

@mikes horsepower garage how is the reliability?

[@EnthusiastCarHangar]

Very interesting! I like the Panamera.

[@roemellobell]

Boy I wish I could have one

[@freddie1003]

Upgrade those turbos for more POWA!!!

[@guillermoardon1172]

Do you recommend this car? How about the engine? I’m thinking to buy it! But I’m kind of worried

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

It's been 6 years since I bought it and it's a great car.

[@guillermoardon1172]

@@mikeshorsepowergarage7577 thanks a lot 👍🏼

[@frantzdubois1365]

Go check the volsteiner body kit, it's beautiful.

[@frantzdubois1365]

My bad vorsteiner*

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

I checked it out. Really like the front bumper. The rear was nice too. Really makes it look aggressive. Expensive though. Thanks for watching!

[@frantzdubois1365]

@@mikeshorsepowergarage7577 Yes sadly it's usually the case whenever there's carbon it's not cheap.

[@RonNehring]

Hey there Mike! Judging by the scenery in your videos, I'm pretty sure you're where I am in East San Diego County. Am I right? Would love to get in touch!

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

Would love to check out your Panamera when you have time.

[@RonNehring]

@@mikeshorsepowergarage7577 You bet. Drop me a line here any time: www.ronnehring.com/contact-ron-nehring.html

[@jco1298]

No one pimps a Panamera!😂

[@lyndonjoseph758]

So this clock is for track time. (Laps)

[@CECE1839]

Great review, designed to go forward, with poor Resr visibility, Not very intuitive, parking a challenge due to wideness of the front end, Oh that Clock, and lack of after market support parts. However, you have a Porsche, which is Nice, very Nice....

[@matreyia]

I just saw another panamera video where he said it was a shit load of after market stuff for this car.

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

For the Turbo models maybe? Not much horsepower mods for the NA motor.

[@michaeloconnor4735]

Wish my $130k sticker panamera had a back up cam. Like how tf did the original owner not spec a camera in on a high spec car

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

@@michaeloconnor4735 Wrong option to skip?

[@incognitoguitars9999]

Nicely done. Very helpful

[@OverPower_0]

U didn’t mention the rear upper suspension bushings which is very annoying in my opinion.

[@nataliegrn17]

What makes them annoying?

[@incrediblehak2833]

What year is this? Interior looks old

[@jeffreykilpatrick3592]

My 23’ Panamera it has rear view drive

[@joerodriguezhuerta2295]

Should’ve bought a turbo s . If you wanted more horsepower

[@daringooodwin6944]

I thought this was a joke video 😆😂😂😂

[@deanhenning2283]

Had had a 2015 now a used 2018 GTS with all upgrades, get new version, all are fixed, accept maybe the rear view

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

Thanks for Watching!

[@hamedahali3520]

You forgot to say when you have 3 passengers inside the car going down to much the tires touching the wheels I have a 2016 sedan

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

I've never had that problem?

[@emilegordon2988]

I'll take it off your hands bro I potato get it .

[@micks7655]

Is this v6 or v8?

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

V8

[@hy5trucking464]

It’s a Porsche, buy you a new Turbo S, if not, buy you a 911 turbo

[@gman5559]

Simple change, rims, tint, pieces of exterior of car wrapped with carbon fiber changes the whole look of the car.

[@PorschePrestige987]

I have found both Carbon fiber parts and "some" after market support for tuning for my Panamera Youre not looking hard enough

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

Is it a Turbo? There was more available for the Turbo models when I looked. I guess I'll have look again. Thanks for Watching!

[@GetyourselfaBagg]

Hell yeah frfr because I found me some as well

[@yenvo7112]

Hi Mike, what is your suggestion between V6 vs V8 ? I'm not looking to race to anyone. I just want a nice, quiet ride. Which model would you suggest? ( 2010-2014). Thank you.

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

The V6 is fine and cheaper. It's literally the same engine with 2 less cylinders. I just prefer the Power of the V8. I'm looking for the performance.

[@yenvo7112]

@@mikeshorsepowergarage7577 thank you Mike.

[@ryeshad564]

Then why you buy it

[@yebo56]

Sport Chrono clock is super stupid. It's Porsche laughing at it's customers

[@HellCatSmokeShowVic]

Sarona designs on Instagram check them out. I have a 2012 Panamera s. And I did everything Fabspeed check them out as well

[@nicholaswilkerson501]

the clock is a functional timer on its own my guy. Have to learn about your cars stuff before complaining. you don't even have to have it ticking the whole time, the second hand that is. There is literally a function to start and stop and reset it. Also there is absolutely aftermarket apple car play and android auto.

[@chrishaug]

you can change out the sports chrono clock to something else kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYO8m6OBjqyfZsU&ab_channel=cgng30 www.6speedonline.com/forums/997-turbo-gt2/224567-sport-chrono-clock-replacement-3.html since its a non turbo then tuning is limited.. styling is also bad on these..

[@rarabbara]

bro well watch out

[@keithliggins8545]

Blasphemyyyyyyyy!

[@jeffreykilpatrick3592]

This is the old version of the car. Sell it and buy the new one.

[@callumfreebairn8082]

doesn't matter aye

[@mikeandrews9551]

So, you hate the rear visibility, screen intuitiveness, width of the car, dash clock and aftermarket support. You don’t deserve to own a Porsche. I think a Kia Stinger is more up your alley.

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

A Kia ? Really! I do love my car. Had to find something negative to say about it which wasn't easy. Thanks for Watching.

[@juanmaldonado3281]

🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐

[@jason22spurs]

Maybe learn how to park a big car :))

[@mikeshorsepowergarage7577]

Still working on it:)

[@oddieboy4854]

I don't like the back seat

[@cllistings5914]

What back seat?😂

[@streetwalkinsweden]

Lost 40k followers because my channel got banned Now i have a new one help me to expand them.. I sincerely thank you Do they have a keyless.. Can we start the engine outside the car?

[@anonymoushuman8962]

Only real Porsches are 911s. That’s a wagon. Sorry but it is. Porsches attempt to expand their appeal