5 Worst Weapons in Killing Floor 2

Not all weapons are created equal! While I wouldn't say weapon balance is atrocious in KF2, there are a few stand out bad apples.
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[@RichardDangles]

Since everyone wants to know. The intro song is Castle Freaks. It is from the 2018 Halloween Update. 😎

[@gamingseizure]

That song gives me intense flashbacks of when I first started playing.

[@benjirabbe1205]

The hemogoblin does 25% more healing and deals a 30% melee damage reduction debuff against all zeds including bosses (60% damage reduction with healing buffs). You can also break attack animations with its pushback.

[@Wizpixel15]

Update your list bc it’s outdated

[@danielerber7404]

The germanizing nature of the MKB 42 shouldn't be underestimated

[@JeanMarceaux]

The only way to make it even more germanizing is to have germanium-coated rounds for it.

[@pufferfishman4203]

Indeed it shouldn’t

[@volcomfire02]

Favorite gun for commando for sure

[@Slurpified]

"Hans is still carrying those MKB42s? Hes has those things for like... ever." -The Patriarch on Endless Survival

[@crash4267]

No it sucks

[@CorneliusCornbread]

Who is Richard and why does he dangle so much?

[@captoblivious3826]

Richards usually get the nickname "Dick" 👀

[@ekking1]

Dichard Rangles

[@snottytoe6957]

Richard is what I call my dinga-ling

[@BobBigWheels]

He is all Swedish and no Finish

[@cheesewizard3965]

While it’s not really a “bad” weapon I think the most “pointless” gun is the Bullpup. Any situation where a commando could buy the Bullpup, it’s pretty much always better to get the Tommy Gun; they cost the same and have similar damage, but the Bullpup shoots slower, has a smaller clip size, and can’t be used by SWAT. It’s not “bad,” it’s just “worse than other options.”

[@Barot8]

I think the Bullpup should be a crossover with the Sharp. When I tend to use it as a Commando I find myself trying for headshots more. Totally agree about the Tommy Gun being a better choice every time.

[@Ionic0]

i dunno, i used to think that too till i realized the tommy guns sights are pretty bad, they seem about equal in terms on stopping power. and maybe its just me but i feel like i run out of ammo faster with it as well.

[@wiffgaming6551]

Tommy gun is statistically far better yeah until u factor in its high spread. If you're on a long lane, you might find yourself missing some extensions because of this. That's when you're better to take the L85. Otherwise, short/mid lanes I'd take the tommy gun.👀

[@Barot8]

I think if you use sights the Tommy Gun is bad. If you can hit headshots without iron sights than it's a better choice. Bullpup is better if you use sights though needs a bigger magazine size.

[@wiffgaming6551]

Actually it's more the other way around. The tommy gun sights are horribly obstructive, but aiming down sights also massively reduces the bullet spread. Try it, especially in zed time when you're trying to get those reliable extensions.

[@Ultra_Sauce]

I’d disagree strongly on the dragon’s breath. With the armor piercing rounds perk on support shooting it into crowds of zeds is very beneficial

[@robotabo4485]

especially with the 100% ground fire it has now. caulk and burn is still very strong tho

[@LucasSilva-pw8zz]

Totally agree 👍

[@hamrsquad2704]

Ultra Sauce honestly

[@kostassofis]

What's the point of armor piercing rounds? It seems redundant to use if you are high level

[@Ultra_Sauce]

Samatas it prevents damage reduction when piercing multiple enemies

[@PauloVitorHMK]

The Dragon's Breath Trenchgun is actually pretty good when dealing with trash. Along with some perks, you can hold off an entire corridor at a safe distance while using the CnB as a backup. You won't be doing any favors while dealing with big Zeds, but that's not really your job. It's certainly better than spamming the Husk Cannon.

[@thehoneybadger6411]

I actually kinda like it against big zeds as well. Since it burns zeds they kinda stumble back and if a flashpound is running at you and you shoot it a few times it'll stubmle for quite some time and your team can kill it easily

[@Maco777111]

Dragonsbreath is one of the best weapons in the game, for big or small zeds. Apparently no one has actually tried using this weapon after the recent firebug buff.

[@kalsyphr5039]

Mk137 one of the best? Yeah, no. Don't over exaggerate, it is much better now with the buffs to firebug, but it is still a far cry from "the best. Its now a viable weapon to use, only in firebug of course, but the weapon itself is the reason it is bad.

[@Fantasy_Flan]

The dragon's breath is good, but there are just better weapons that do its job a lot better.

[@Tk-sh3bf]

The dragonsbreath on firebug is actually broken now not sure what yall are smoking lol

[@uldoser]

Dangles : NO YOU CAN'T JUST USE THE MKB.42 YOU SHOULD USE THE SCAR AND THE FAL Prestige 5 lvl 25 commando : haha mkb.42 go pew pew

[@Fapnyr]

It's much better than any other commando weapon, imagine complaining about not being able to kill large zeds then ignore mkb completely

[@Journey_Awaits]

I used it after they nerfed the ak12 and it's preferable

[@MateuszJJ]

Chill out werhaboos

[@Rauser142]

@@Fapnyr It's not ''much better'' at all you stupid noob

[@crash4267]

@@Fapnyr no it sucks

[@mcjagergaming]

Hemoglobin spam fire on Scrakes and FleshPounds 👌

[@kiyoshimiyasato7324]

Totally viable and recommended strategy 🤣

[@uriahbynum6683]

This works if wonders if they’ve been enraged due to a botched takedown.

[@user-bm8vc4lc4f]

Its 4pm time for FleshPound dick flattening

[@adamdobry5517]

Nothing resists tha bugger tho, also its got the lowest dart cost, alongside the AR

[@adamdobry5517]

@Mick Maze 4 months must have changed something i guess

[@theboxwizard5898]

The new Dragonsbreath EXCELS at it's new role as a trash-killer when you aim for the feet. It has longer range and a couple shots shot into a hallway easily becomes a hall of flames. Using it as a shotgun will only get you killed

[@RichardDangles]

The Box Wizard the buffs do make it more enjoyable to use. It is a guilty pleasure if I’m bored of the caulk

[@Kilesfactor]

Wait, I have to use a shotgun... like a tf2 rocket launcher???

[@alfredbanuelos7312]

My preferred weapon just gotta learn how to conserve your ammo and when to reload. It's a great gun against gorefiends and gorefasts.

[@razzyrazberries]

It's a great gun on Firebug. It allows you to spread ground fire from a long range. Run it with Flamethrower and I just melt everything.

[@ribbon8546]

As it turns out, death is the strongest debuff you can dish out.

[@IzukuMidoriya-in8bt]

“the pistol shotguns have far too much recoil” as he mows down an entire doorway of zombies by just aiming down the sight and spraying.

[@kiyoshimiyasato7324]

Well I did not expect 80% of this list and I actually wanted to see more weapons being called 'bad'

[@kitten30]

I think M1911 Pistol and UMP deserve to be on the list instead of Hemoglobin and Trench Gun.

[@kiyoshimiyasato7324]

@@kitten30 I agree on the UMP because it has the same problem as the Mkb, but why the 1911 and not the 1858 revolvers? With Speedloader the 1911s reload faster than the 1858s, they have penetration, and a larger magazine.

[@spacehitler4537]

@@kiyoshimiyasato7324 Because the 1858s are free and reliable. So there is no downside to having them. While you have to spend money on the m1911s.

[@doommaker4000]

@@kitten30 What, m1911 are literally meta loadout viable

[@kiyoshimiyasato7324]

@@spacehitler4537 but they are not really that expensive. On the other hand, the 2011s have the same problem as the Buckshots: extrenely high recoil

[@blehmeh9889]

I sort of like the Trench gun on support mainly for the spread wider than the entire state of Texas. Allow me to explain. Support was my favorite perk by far in KF1. The standard pump shotgun in that game, with a leveled up support, was a killing machine of all trash in existence. Just get 3 or 4 in a line (which was easy to do since they had simpler AI and didn't move as fast as they do now), and the spread on that shotgun was just tight enough to take them on at a range while also wide enough to allow you some great multikills. The shotgun could kill these things with ruthless efficiency, and I have many a fond memory of playing support, kiting all the zeds around the map in solo, getting them into that tunnel in Manor, and reducing the wave one count of zeds from 26 to 0 in just 2 shots. In KF2, the starting pump shotgun is underpowered by comparison because the zombies move way faster and are more agile, making it harder to line them up for large multikills, and they often cluster rather than line up, making wide spread more important. The trouble is, the spread on the default pump action shotgun in this game is too tight, even without the "tight spread" perk enabled. It never seems to be wide enough to tackle the crowd I want it to with any semblance of effectiveness. Here comes the trench shotgun. It's got a wide spread and flaming pellets, making it effective against trash and allowing me to use it on groups of trash, unlike the regular shotgun which does more damage but has a tighter spread. I like using the trench shotgun to clear groups of trash and crawlers as support, and I've had great success using it in situations where the other shotguns would struggle because the other shotguns are too afraid to open up their spread a little.

[@carlosgonzalez-ko3hw]

blehmeh98 it kind of sounds like a more cost effective AA12 when you put it like that but in my opinion the spread is both a blessing and a curse. More spread means it is harder for you to kill trash zeds near the big boys like fleshpounds but as you said the spread tears up every other zed. But this argument can be completely destroyed by the fact that support can carry 20 pounds of gear so you can run with the trench for trash if you don’t like the AA12 or want to save money and still carry the pretty dam accurate M4 for both big zeds and to carefully clear trash zeds from Scrakes and Fleshpounds. So you can have the best of both worlds and this is why I love support so much.

[@filmandfirearms]

@@carlosgonzalez-ko3hw I believe it's 20 kilos. Guns are heavy, 20 pounds is nothing. The M4 alone, unloaded, is 8.4 pounds, and then you've got ammo

[@carlosgonzalez-ko3hw]

I thought this game only took into consideration the weight of the guns themselves and not their ammo. I mean the AA12 and Doomstick both weighed in ten pounds and I have had games were I could carry both guns if I had the money. Also you would still have room to upgrade your guns because the Trench gun is about 6 pound and the first two upgrades for the Trench gun is cheap and only adds one pound while you still have about five pounds of free space if you don’t upgrade those guns.

[@schnozbott]

I might have picked the Mac-10 over the Dragonsbreath as being the most useless weapon for Firebug, especially now that the HRG Incendiary Rifle makes the Mac-10 totally obsolete

[@fighter5583]

Definitely. Can't beat fire grenades at will. Makes taking out the trash way easier, and does offer better utility against big zeds.

[@havelyntherockelyn1576]

@@fighter5583 Swat

[@fighter5583]

@@havelyntherockelyn1576 Has a pyro ever used the Mac-10 effectively?

[@havelyntherockelyn1576]

@@fighter5583 no I'm saying the swat can tho

[@jetstreamsam99]

@@fighter5583 Back in the good ol KF1 days, yes. However, as OP mentioned, the HRG Incendiary Rifle effectively renders the Mac-10 a useless relic from the past.

[@MR-el2ym]

I really don't think the dragonsbreath/trench gun belongs on this list. Since the update it is very effective against trash. And it is only 650. I think you have a precision perk bias. Their is more to the game than headshots.

[@ir0n2541]

I dont agree with the Hemogoblin gun, it's great to slow down big zeds when they charge towards you or your team mates therefore reducing the amount of healing you need to dish out overall. and it using the Hemo as a combat medic is very powerfull to solo with.

[@hoodie1355]

I don’t disagree that with plenty of practice medic mains could put the hemogoblin to good use but when you’re being swarmed by multiple if not a horde of heavy zeds it just doesn’t seem effective enough to debuff them when you can help take them out. From personal experience I’ve found it better to use the HM-tech 301 shotgun and unload a clip or two into fleshpounds to permanently take them out during things such as the king fleshpound boss fight so that my teammates can focus more on the boss without being harassed by flesshpounds, debuffed or not. I always prioritize healing them over killing zeds of course but while I don’t think it’s a bad gun in it of itself, I do think it’s not the best gun for most medics to use (For context I usually have the 301 shotgun for heavy zeds and the 401 assault rifle for trash for my setup, if I really need to heal a lot I’ll get the 101 pistol as well to have more healing darts on standby, if you’d like I’m more than interested in knowing what setup or strategies you do, it’s always good to learn from others in games in my opinion)

[@KaijuAKD]

I'm a newby. Was trying to get the perk to 25. I liked the hemo because the dart heals more and recharge faster, and when a teammate goes to far chances of land a dart are reduced by blockage, so one dart can be life or death. I was in an endless Nuked in hard mode, all my teammates died in a Scrake wave, wave 30+. Took me some time but Igot them all. My teammates had no faith no they left me alone, switched to right skills for the following wave hoping someone connected... I shredded the zeds.

[@razors2459]

Dont use hemo as a "weapon" but rather as a "tool" paired it with healthrower so you can heal 30points of hp waste less dart and it's also recharges very fast

[@bluekeldeo7515]

I agree with this, and also while I am not sure if this is just me. But I feel like the Hemo can fire 4 darts instead of the usual 3 for other weapons, unless you count the 2 for the pistol. I do wish it debuffs the enemy like, do less damage or take more damage, it would make it way more viable as a choice as I really do like the idea of debuffing enemies as a medic while you buff your allies.

[@immortalnub]

@@bluekeldeo7515 hemo does drop the damage dealt, but it doesn't really matter if you don't let the larges hit you in the first place.

[@bluekeldeo7515]

@@immortalnub For a coordinated team, yeah. But with a couple of random people that you honestly have no trust or even knowledge that they know how to do large zed take downs. Yeah it can be helpful.

[@anonymoushy7815]

Hemo and healthrhower is the Meta combo for medic imo, especially when you are playing 6P HoE on maps like The Descent

[@garyfink17]

Maybe they could add a medic gun that fires the hemogoblin shots from an underbarrel launcher or something. That way you could have the debuffs as well as having a source of good damage on hand.

[@AziSlays]

then you have a medic gun that doesn't have darts. I wouldn't use that.

[@dylanyeager5737]

@@AziSlays Grenade rifle?

[@filipbabela1822]

what if the hemogoblin shots exploded in a small area, affecting a small group of zeds?

[@Videogamefan7000]

@@filipbabela1822 A medic seeker six would be a viable option

[@Thatevilmellon]

@@AziSlays could just have the underbarrel hemodart also function as a " super dart " since in reality the hemoboglin just shoots ultra syringes anyway. and if u think about it that way, and acted as if the underbarrel hemogoblin darts needed to be refilled, it would become and comparable alternative to the grenade. you'd just be swapping out a super utility heal grenade for a roided out last ditch heal. could do wonders for teammates who get really caught out by patriarch or volter on higher difficulties.

[@randomsteve4279]

The pulveriver still needs further improve and the H&K UMP reminds me that the Mkb.42 is kinda similar.

[@kitten30]

yeah UMP has exactly same problem as Mkb, sad thing is both guns looks really cool I want them to perform better :/

[@AziSlays]

At least they're good in Zedternal where the high base damage makes damage upgrades even better and the low fire rate can be dealt with easily.

[@SoldierOfFate]

The UMP definitely needs a fire rate and damage buff to compete with the P90 and Kriss SMG.

[@filmandfirearms]

Except it's a SWAT gun. SWAT has nothing but low damage, fast firing weapons, so I find it very useful to have a high damage, slow firing gun to balance it out. It makes it much easier to chip away at big zeds from a distance, where the faster firing guns will be hard to keep steady unless you fire slowly, negating their main strength

[@WhirlingMusic]

I was a 25 demo using the Pulverizer on Suicidal 6 player Descent . That is it. That is all I used. I had the most kills. It is great now since they buffed it. Especially when I had a 25 medic shooting me with darts.

[@omskc_gb4728]

tbh I forgot the Seeker 6 existed, everyone just uses the RPG

[@brandonbarnes8997]

That's crazy cause when I play on suicidal difficulty I always use it. It's perfect for clearing rooms as I literally always end the game with way more kills than anyone. Like atleast 100 more kills.

[@VlIl]

Seeker is NOT a bad weapon at all. I mean I checked all demo guns but actually came out with seeker being the best dmg dealer gun with the smart rocket sec. Fire

[@ongogablogian2525]

@@VlIl its crazy good and versatile weapon, especially after upgrade, you not gonna be able to defend yourself from trash with RPG. And trash mobs is what coming at you 100% of the time. The video author has no clue what he's talking about

[@OldBloodRKR626]

The Hemogoblin is a great weapon exactly for what it does. It goes both ways. It especially helps when you don't have a cohesive team, or a capable medic, or a capable Berserker. Or like, literally any team member that is needed to handle large zeds and bosses. If no one wants to be that, then having the hemogoblin at the ready can mean life or death. We're not all you. We can't be bugging our competent friends to play a game with us. A lot of us experienced players usually just play with randoms. Best way to teach others how to play, by letting them watch us. The Hemo helps in those dire situations.

[@yungbushwookie6832]

Or you can just kill the zeds

[@OldBloodRKR626]

@@yungbushwookie6832 try harder

[@yungbushwookie6832]

@@OldBloodRKR626 killing zeds is better than debuffing them

[@OldBloodRKR626]

@@yungbushwookie6832 Try. Harder.

[@yungbushwookie6832]

@@OldBloodRKR626 unfunny

[@uriahbynum6683]

If you use the trenchgun the way it’s being used in this vid, then yeah it sucks. If you use it like the flamethrower, Caulk n Burn, or MWG and aim at le feet, it’s infinitely better.

[@krraken]

yeah but then cant i just use a flamethrower

[@uriahbynum6683]

kraken of course. I still think the flamethrower is the king of torching zeds, but if you wanna shake things up the trenchgun is a great alternative and isn’t nearly as bad as Richard is making it out to be.

[@R0ckst4r0ck3r]

I'm not an ultimate firebug expert but I main it and spent a lot of hours playing it, and to me the flamethrower coupled with the Helios both make it a perfect and easy job for taking care of both trash and big zeds. And as fun and satisfying the trench gun might be , it's actually kinda pointless and if you're looking for a better loadout overall, I would definitely cross it off the list.

[@uriahbynum6683]

Vulpes Inculta The flamethrower/Helios combos is great and gives you a lot of flexibility. However, I don’t see the flamethrower setting several chokepoints on fire from a decent distance away, the flamethrower doesn’t pierce through enemies, you can’t interrupt the flamethrower mid-reload to start shooting if you get caught, and it’s almost twice the cost of the trenchgun. The flamethrower does have several advantages over the trenchgun, but the trenchgun is far from a pointless weapon.

[@krraken]

@@uriahbynum6683 u can cancel the flamethrower reload. u dont want to flame infront of other teammates since its just annoying.

[@thetute59]

Hemogloblin can be nice if teammates arent capable of solid takedowns. Once sc/fp are raged it can get a little hairy.

[@DeanBiddler]

Do ads, get that money man. Love the content.

[@legallytargeted5688]

I think quite a few other weapons were much more deserving of being on this list over the dragons breath, hrg buckshot, and hemogoblin

[@Duelist935]

I respectfully disagree with you, I Love the dragon's breath, The hermogoblin is usefull against big zeds, The HRG buckshot, is not a great weapon, but it works, The mkb 42, I use it instead of the ak 12, I prefer its damage.

[@TARINunit9]

I've managed to make the MKB2 work for me in solo mode. Pops off heads in basically any solo difficulty, with a great fire rate that means I can tap for single shots (without accidentally firing a second round) or hold for DPS. It just _feels_ nice, and sometimes that actually does lead to better results. But I'm nowhere near a meta player. If you were to tell me it doesn't stack up at all in 6-man games, I'd believe you

[@captoblivious3826]

You can definitely make it work in HoE 6 players, but you're better off using the HM401 with an AK/FAL/Scar.

[@stevenbobbybills]

I feel like the recoil is a bit too ridiculous for what it's firing. Even with its a slow fire rate, which would usually make the recoil matter less, it still jumps around on automatic.

[@yungbushwookie6832]

@@stevenbobbybills Switch to semi auto

[@stevenbobbybills]

@@yungbushwookie6832 at which point it's just one of the battle rifles but with worse stats in every way besides mag capacity.

[@yungbushwookie6832]

@@stevenbobbybills The Mkb isn't bad. Just switch to semi for small groups of trash, and then auto when you get overwhelmed

[@QuickQuips]

I love the Trench gun. Maybe a speed load feature could make it more viable. I use it for the challenge and because I loved it for kf1 As for sponsorships don't do Raid Shadow Legends. But I trust you.

[@DaPope81363]

In a recent update, the Hemogoblin was given the same exact healing dart recharge rate as the 401 and can shoot out just as many darts. so it's exceptionally good for healing.

[@S3cr3tSu1c1d3]

I love every weapon on this list especially the HRG Buckshot 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@junior_pinball]

The hemoglobin shreds through boss health and heals really fast. The more you hit enemies with it, the more damage over time it does.

[@theangusschmaloer]

How do you get that "dot" in the middle of the screen crosshairs instead of the normal crosshairs ???

[@Ionic0]

i agree with everything except the Seeker and Hemo. For the seeker, true, it lacks punch but its still a decent trash and medium zed killer. plus you can carry C4 for stupid cheap if you need to kill a fleshpound. i even off perk this gun quite a bit with medic, crazy i know but it works. it totally has some strengths over the M79 in some areas. and is good for both versions of demos zedtime. Id place it in mid teir for demos build, far from a worse weapon in the game in my opinion at least. As for the Hemo, while its a bit lacking in stopping power, you gotta realize not all people can reliably slowdown big zeds, true a gunslinger or sharpshooter can but not always, it never hurts just to have a little extra insurance for the other perks that don't even have the option, plus it weakens large zed attacks so if they whiff at any point or a large zed manages to reach a player at least it won't delete them. it also seems ok at taking out most of the annoying medium zeds. its healing dart recharge is almost on par with the 401, at least to me, it recharges pretty fast at t4 for only 700 dosh. now what would i place as the worst gun for medic? easily the Health Thrower, that thing sucks at healing AND killing. Ive seen so many games wipe when medics use it. its healing gas is so weak compared to darts, and it just doesnt kill anything fast enough, at least the hemo can kill trash and medium zeds quickly.

[@cheesewizard3965]

Oh my God, I had completely forgotten that the Health Thrower even existed. Trying to kill something with it is like squirting a spray bottle full of Febreeze. And what’s the point of having a gun that’s supposed to be used to heal your teammates when literally every gun you have can already do that easily? It’s like you’re using a flamethrower without a pilot light.

[@JCPC17]

I 100% agree with this about the Hemogoblin and don't forget it also heals the most health per dart of all medic weapons. I've come to find it a better combo for pure team support in combo with the 501 instead of the 401. 501 is plenty defensive trash killer with tap and controlled bursts and the hemogoblin helps with big Zeds + is a better healing dart thrower. As for the heal thrower it's fun to use in small games where it's ability to buff allies better then any other medic weapon can be game changer + the smaller party allows for a bit more flexibility due to lowered big zed difficulty.

[@immortalnub]

Year, healthrower is pretty abysmal... until you realize that it enables god mode for your teammates in HoE games. Remember that players can only heal 10hp/sec, and the healthrower heals 8 every 0.2 seconds, so it's not like it's being bottlenecked. Exploit post fire with it, and you got a T3 weapon that should be a T5. I gotta know this though, why is it that people are trying to make an argument about it's damage? Its damage has always been terrible and was never the weapon's purpose, and the airborne agent drops trash quickly anyway.

[@Akenaph]

@@immortalnub Why people look for damage in a MEDIC weapon is beyond me. Makes me lose braincells when ever people discuss damage about it lmfao. Medic main here, 300+ hours on him. Can confirm healthrower is disgustingly strong, ammo lasts very long, has insane AOE healing AND buff stacking. Ez GG.

[@lunatic756]

Casual medic here. Big thanks to you guys for the info, really usefull. I always stick to the normal and hard difficulties to help newer players with leveling up and such, and the Hemogoblin is damn convenient when you want to weaken a Fleshpound or Scrake for a newbie to kill. (Plus the visual effects are damn awesome)

[@SirSkrewballz]

3:20 you firing and the thumping drops in the song lined up perfectly right here lol.

[@GhostMihneaRo]

No Road Reedemer? I guess just playing Berserker means that no weapons are that bad :D

[@WhirlingMusic]

Almost all Zerks weapons are useless lol. Or maybe I shouldn't say useless. But maybe they are practically all the same.

[@necromatric]

Great video but.... is that a crosshair? How did you get a dot one?

[@Dostoron]

easiest fix would be to have hemoglobin as an Aoe effect to turn a gorefast rush into a walk in the park, or to lessen the power of zed's special abilities, prevent the big guys from raging... or when used on a bloat have him vomit healing instead of acid, now that would be fun.

[@fuzzypower3163]

@Richard_Dangles what did you use or how did you get the dot crosshair? Does anybody know? Would love to get one :))

[@psychicwarlock5745]

Can someone tell me what music background richard uses in his perk review clips?(Mainly field medic and support)

[@nymzy2995]

I’m a prestige field medic and hemogoblin/medic smg are my main weapon choices. I also play on hell on earth and this weapon lasers the big boys like flesh and scrake. Does the “bad” weapon only effective in solo and bad in team games?

[@Left4Eskimo]

What is the crosshair that you're using in the video?

[@Mestari1Gaming]

You made some good points. Doesn't the STG44 get the most out of the horrible Upgrade system? Like the most damage per upgrade?

[@FurryEskimo]

I’ve seen a lot of criticisms of the trench-gun, but I swear, so many people misuse firebug weapons (ten year firebug veteran). People try using it like the other shotguns, but that’s just not what it is. The base damage on firebug weapons is low, because you get extra damage from the after-burn. The goal of the firebug needs to be to set as many people on fire as possible, to maximize damage from the fire. Firing down on a crowd of enemies can set many of them ablaze at a time. It’s almost like flame grenades in a gun; use its wide spread to fire at crowds from a distance to set them all on fire. Also, getting double ammo is So important, and no one seems to do this. Honestly, every firebug guide I’ve seen was objectively wrong trying to maximize raw damage, rather than maximizing crowd control and fire burn potential.

[@rileysmith7763]

Maybe I’m uneducated on it’s uses, but I’m surprised the health thrower isn’t on this list. Kinda defeats its purpose when every other medic gun can heal teammates. (And most can cross-perk)

[@d.f.7397]

Chokepoints though. This +501 is nice for crowd control and mass healing.

[@Akenaph]

Because the healthrower is actually digustingly op. Medic main, the ability to mass heal your team rapidly, apply buffs to all of them AND stumble trash zeds if overwhelmed is criminally underrated. It might not look very impressive in big camping spots, but if you're holding a tight area it's an ungodly tool.

[@joea7886]

problem with the mkb, it uses iron sights. its kinda harder to aim down sights with it when compared to the other options, because its sights take up so much space and dont really give you as clean point of aim as the ak12s dot. just a thought

[@actualteddybear891]

You don't aim for body shots most of the time with the Dragon's Breath. You waste the ground fire by shooting at torso height on a group of enemies. The Dragon's breath is arguably better than the flamethrower if you know how to use it.

[@Medirby]

Just started playing KF2 before watching this video as a Field Medic main and the first time I tried the Hemogoblin I already knew it was vastly underpowered and would make this list. I didn't know it was the worst gun though, lol.

[@IsaacClarke39]

I do love the seeker six it feels incredibly satisfying to use but i do hate the vlad nailgun for some reason it takes me like 5 shots to kill a gorefast, like it somehow becomes weaker when i use it

[@JH-xc1ce]

I’ll say this for the Hemogoblin: extremely useful without a dedicated (or competent) big game hunter. Also, in endless, ESPECIALLY solo, it WILL save you from being mowed down by the 5 fleshpounds that all spawn right behind you pre-enraged. Slows them down, they can’t hit you, unload. (‘Course, with a competent team you wouldn’t NEED to slow them, and you wouldn’t be soloing literally 8 full fleshpounds with alternating rage in a 6-player HoE endless on wave 32. I’m a little salty.)

[@OldBloodRKR626]

I wish I'd seen this before I commented lol

[@Wytchphyre]

All of these are wrong. Dragonsbreath is for applying ground fires. NOT to be used as a shotgun. (except on trash when it's blocking your path running.) The HRG Buckshot is directly superior to the starter shotty. It can be purchased sooner than anything but a weapon upgrade... It's "wide shot spread" can be adjusted with traits. And with reload speed, it just does better than the m4 for players who hate individual shell reloads. (of which there are many) Mkb42 "the higher per shot damage makes it bad?" OK, dude... Did you miss the entire half of the commando class that's all about spray and pray? The Mkb42 is a stepping stone up to the Stoner, then Minigun. Not only that, but with upgrades its the best balance of ammo capacity with damage. Yes the FAL or SCAR both hit harder... With less bullets on tap... Which can matter alot to a commando depending on what perks you chose. The hemogoblin is the medic's answer to scrakes and flesh pounds? What world are you living in? I don't know what your fifth choice was, cause you were wrong 4 times, why watch the 5th?

[@ninpo-2103]

Melee is op. You only need to time it and keep mooving around, and you become fckin invincible.

[@mathieubethtan2921]

i like how this guy makes a video on the most terrible weapons but proceeds to own those zeds like it’s so easy

[@pandanihao7952]

Just noticed, you have a little white crosshair on the screen? How did you manage to get that?

[@ridhosamudro2199]

It's an option you can toggle in game

[@nymets1104]

As a dedicated Demo, I have always hated the Seeker 6 for just the reasons you stated.

[@kiyoshimiyasato7324]

RPG 4 the win

[@Jackfromshack]

@Fozzerino You just use it not right

[@fighter5583]

Yeah, it's a niche weapon at best. Still don't get why it got in the game before the M32 did.

[@LeftysRage]

The Seeker Six is a good all around weapon, takes on waves no problem.

[@havelyntherockelyn1576]

On the HRG Revolver; I'm a support main. I also love non-meta options so whenever I see a gun that gets backlined I like to figure out why and how to break it. HRG should be treaded like a gunslinger revolver for the Support. When paired with the Reload, Damage, and Choke perk and with a Double Barrel/Doomstick; you're basically playing a more Burst damage support allowing you to pop Mid tier mobs and Scrakes/Consistently. However... you MUST upgrade the HRG if you want them to be good. ALSO, Duel wielding the HRGs will make them uncontrollable and the recoil will make them take up the entire screen. But I can see why people feel that way about the HRGs. I feel that way about Rhinos

[@kcarter0001]

This is gold! Now I know what to run for meme runs. Thanks

[@TheKenji2221]

I don't think you know what a meme is...

[@Slyslug]

okat but actually the buckshot pistol is god tier, all solo nightmare runs require it when playing support

[@samuellabrecque1682]

The Tommy Gun is alright but it does need some work a little more fire power and a very high need for more ammo

[@ohnonotjo]

I honestly love the Hemogoblin. I use the HM pistol, SMG/shotgun, and focus on healing. All the times I've saved people by cycling through 3 medic weapons, healing grenades, and syringe while debuffing FP/SC is so satisfying

[@flaccidbannana8137]

3:34 "Woefully underpowered" proceeds to send gorefiend to space

[@ilozen]

Always fun to watch! I was wondering if you could make a video on 'friendly fire'? Like which weapons / grenades can deal damage to your teammates and to you and which ones are BAD and which are negligible.

[@VOKZEL]

Can someone tell me how to use the Caulk n Burn? Everyone says it's good but when I play with it it's total garbage. It takes like 15 ammo to kill 1 cyst. Please help.

[@AeriDjGk]

Tap fire it on the floor. The perk-buffed ground fire is where all of the damage comes from.

[@ridhosamudro2199]

Tapfire at ground, bash enemies whenever possible.

[@TheProjectUltimatum]

The Hemogoblin should be made a Medic/Demo weapon. Give the shots an explosive/gas effect similar to the other Medic rifle and you'll make this weapon 10x more useful. The slight explosive will deal some extra damage on top of the debuff and the healing gas cloud can poison zeds or heal teammates.

[@Sayerservante]

Also the seeker six while not having that powerful one shot like most of the tier 4 weapons, it has a healthy supply of ammo that does enough damage and that is versatile enough to be effective in large groups and single large targets.

[@Velociraptorhunter]

I like the hemogoblin with the medic shotgun a dream of a killingspree

[@aiellamori]

I've never had the recoil on the hrg revolvers to be a problem, ever. I've never even considered the fact it has "bad" recoil until you said so

[@logankelly6807]

I never thought the hrg buckshot was bad I dunno it's always worked out for me when I use it

[@lvl10hunter]

Dragonsbreath has a very useful crouch ground fire set up. Can set an entire lane on fire by crouching and shooting just above the floors for max effect

[@pufferfishman4203]

Ok I’m just gonna ask this now: WHY ISN’T THE HEAL-THROWER IN THE LIST?! It has pitiful damage, literally requires you to be running acidic rounds to be even somewhat useful and the healing factor wastes precious ammo and doesn’t even heal that much in the first place. Plus if a scrape or fleshpound catches you off guard on suicidal and H.o.e, you’re dead essentially

[@mrcomp1971]

Not sure about the seeker, I've been using it on higher difficulties and found it pretty easy to use. Though, I do only play with 1 other person so it's not as chaotic as a 6 people match. I have absolutely no clue what they were thinking when creating the hemogoblin though.

[@ongogablogian2525]

its perfectly fine weapon. The problem is author of the video has zero fucking clue what he's talking about and did no research

[@thetute59]

@@ongogablogian2525 kinda hard to argue that rich doesnt do research :) but preferences exist and the question of 'healing vs damage' or 'debuffing vs. better buffing' are valid to discuss. personally I like the hemogoblin but I don't use it all that often, only in niche scenarios or boss waves. its also gotten buffed a lot.

[@VideojugadorIrritado]

The Hemoglobin is good against Scrake and some bosses. The debuff help a lot.

[@sergiorivera9650]

I like this kind of content richard aside from updates, i watch a lot pathfinder channel, maybe if you want you can make some content like he does too, glad to see that happen :D, its more important know how to play that knowing what's new with updates i can see that on the steam game page, love u man, stay safe :D

[@AquaAriaSachou]

I actually like the HRG buckshots. My loadouts of AA-12 plus Boomstick, or M4, plus Boomstick, plus HZ12, often leaves a tiny bit of weight room. Which I fill with an upgrade or two plus a single HRG buckshot. It really helps to have that extra hundred + shots as an emergency backup with all 2-3 of the shotgun mags run out and you just need to finish off a sliver of HP. But they are definitely hard to control and don't really pack a lot of damage. I don't mind keeping the recoil on it because it is a shotgun pistol. But maybe buffing the cone of fire by a good bit and maybe the damage by a small amount would really be nice. Also I want some skins for the dam thing.

[@greywolfe7146]

Hemo is pretty handy when a third (or worse half) of your fellow mercs bit the dust, it kept what's left alive for a tad longer.

[@DaPhoenix777]

Either this aged badly or you're just flat out wrong... Dragon breath can singlehandedly carry firebug past 10 rounds on level 15 MKB once again VERY strong gun that's solo commando (exclusive to commando).. being able to take down 2 or more scrakes in a single clip will always be a good thing

[@elephantt2077]

Tbh, hemogoblin is great if you're playing solo as a medic on boss round; DOT can be stacked with med gas and while marginal, the debuff can give you some breathing rooms

[@jetstreamsam99]

As a max Prestige Medic, I'd argue the Hemoglobin is still a useful Medic weapon. They buffed its darts so that now they use 30 charge instead of 40, allowing you to keep your team alive with a T3 weapon that has less charge cost than the HMTech-301 Shotgun. The Bleeding debuff is also really handy on the higher difficulties because of how fast it applies onto Zeds. All you need to do is shoot your target once or twice (5-6 times with Bosses, resulting in an efficiency dip) and they're debuffed for a good few seconds. The Bleeding debuff not only slows down your target, but also reduces their damage, which can help in a pinch if an incompetent player on your team enrages a Pound or Scrake. Because of the movement speed debuff, it can also help keep your team a safe distance away from big Zeds while they finish them off. Going back to its healing efficiency, it's arguably on par with the HMTech-401 Assault Rifle, with both having the same charge cost of 30. When you combine these two together, you can definitely keep your team healed at a quicker and ideal pace, in my opinion. I can definitely see why players don't like the Hemoglobin, but I personally will never get tired of using it to debuff Zeds that pose an instant threat to the team.

[@roguedrones]

dragon's breath ammo problem is ment to be fixed with the perk, giving it 12 rounds. It also is the best for spreading fire on the ground. The Hemogoblin is for bosses.

[@Redeagle1912]

they may be bad weapons, but a gun is a gun.

[@zachkumlin5140]

You nailed it. All of these are so underwhelming. I have found myself using a single HRG in a pinch- anything to supplement the Mossberg for one or two rounds... I would also add the VLAD-1k. Such a sad ranged weapon, even with the buffs it received in the last update. You will also notice that clots, stalkers, and creepers will actually dodge the weapons projectile before it reaches them. It's incredibly frustrating when a single shot projectile is heading right for a crawler's head, and it just moves out of the way. Great video!

[@archyvile9926]

What is the intro song??

[@park2348190]

nice review videos. love it!

[@Joe_Nutz_139]

Overall I agree with the list, but here are my personal counterpoints: Dragonsbreath: Armor Piercing Rounds perk makes it a crowd control beast HRG Buckshot: Still yeets Zeds, so I'm content. In all seriousness, it still deletes large Zeds easily. Honestly though, IMO it should have been a Gunslinger Pistol. I don't think anyone uses the rhinos so... Seeker Six: Lock on to larger threats first if aimed above the smaller ones, wrecking the big boys, and clearing out trash Zeds around them. MKB-42(H): If it can One-shot trash, easily dispatch Medium Zeds, has a good mag size, Semi-auto mode for precision, and deals with Bigger threats with few issues, I'll use it any time. Hemogoblin: Great for debuffing bosses, letting the other perks shred bosses more quickly. Also, the headshots yeet Zeds, so it's satisfying and kinda memey.

[@Equirado]

I agree with you on the hemogoblin, it's great on bosses and large zeds but sucks for clearing ads because of it's reload time and small capacity that is why I pair it with one of the assault rifle medic guns. 😀

[@pramanixz5467]

I feel the Hemogoblin is purely just if you want berserkers to insta-kill everything faster

[@nateevans8773]

I actually LOVE the Hemogoblin, 20base heals [only other weapon that does this is Healththrower] but you really make a good point about how the DeBuffs don't matter in the long run

[@br0wndynom1te90]

I feel the Seeker Six was a great weapon when it came out when rapid fire explosions were non-exsistant other than timing an chaining your other demo-weapons.

[@revengehunter0184]

Personally, what bugs me about the HRG Buckshot is that it isn't crossperked with the Gunslinger.

[@TheDragonwarlordx]

Great Job on the video and I agree with some of the stuff with you say Dragon Breath Trench Gun and Seeker Six are favorites of my from KF1 but even then I still see the problem, with the Trench Gun is best fix would to make it similar to the Boomstick as there tier and cost are similar, Where the Boomstick is full on burst damage and Trench Gun is about Control and Pain Seeker Six can work just more so think outside the box, It fires rockets like RPG but it has several rounds like M32. In my eyes and how I remember it from KF1 it could be a lowest damaging of Tier 4/5 but it makes up for it with its Lock-on, Each spray, and fast reload pre-clip then the others As for Buckshot, MKB.42H and Hemogoblin, I dont have much to say. Buckshot like they wanted to have Gunslinger with Shotgun Pistols not bad but not good, MKB.42 I rarly used in KF1 as it was just an high cost upgrade for the AK even thing its nothing special as I though it would have a blade like Hanz ones. And Hemogoblin I will agreed 101% that it was made with a great idea, but for the wrong game.

[@SpunkMayo]

You call every weapon you don't like a "meme" without explaining exactly what you mean by that or how it's a bad thing.

[@AtotheR]

He does explain though 💀

[@SpunkMayo]

@@AtotheR except he doesn't though 👌🏿

[@Gonzodiac]

I usually use a single Buckshot as part my Support's loadout. Easy low or mid zed kills in point-blank range, helps to save your main weapons' ammo. Spammable against a single big zed as well if there are many players shooting the same target already. If your main weapons get out of ammo, you still have your Buckshot. For sure there are better Support's loadouts than mine, but for me it's pretty ok as a backup weapon.

[@Xvpurgatory]

Dragon's breath with ground fires and spontaneous explosion is epic AF Now

[@theslavcommissar]

Why would be the hemoglobin bad? Have you ever played combat medic? It's a really good weapon if you have 3 coordinated combat medics in your team

[@duxwontobey4887]

Most of my time playing as firebug is spent using the trench shotgun tbh, I find the damage honestly pretty insane on suicidal, though I ain't tested it on hell on earth yet.

[@ratboy850]

I've...Killed a fleshpound using a Dragon's breath in 5 shots being in the Support class.

[@kreyes1126]

I love these vids. U r the only person with to the point info. On KF2. Thank you.

[@slugger449]

Those guns are a lot more viable on Normal and Hard, where having an efficient setup isn't necessary like it is for Suicidal and HoE.

[@Dark-ux4bi]

i gotta disagree with the dragon's breath, if you combine it with the groundfire ability and aim for the ground underneath the zeds it can take out massive hordes in a single shot

[@teacherarmflab]

But buckshots and mk are beast🥺