50,000 KM Review - KTM 890 ADV R Rally

[@throttleridingadventures]

Nearly done 50k on my channel not a problem with my 790r i personally love the bike ...regardless of what service book says I change oil every 5000ks or before a bigger ride nice upload legends

[@Phl_b]

Thanks buddy - see you out there! ;-)

[@blizzard71]

KTMs are rock solid , anyone who actually owns one would agree ! I have 6 KTMS in all classes from motorcross to dual sport to adventure and have had zero issues ! I have been fortunate to own many bikes of all color and love my KTMs the best by far ! KTM isnt going anywhere , they might restructure , but they will be around for yrs to come. If you look at what they have done to the motorbike industry ,its crazy , they brought back 2 strokes , they made dual sport bikes cool again , and adventures bikes are the best out there , not to mention there street bikes ! lets face it the haters are going to hate , and so many online are keyboard heros that have no clue ! I appreciate your videos and your review ! heres to many more miles on our KTMs ! going to subscribe to your channel , look forward to more of your adventures ! cheers ~

[@Phl_b]

My man! Couldn't have said it better myself! 👊✊

[@laddjohnson2576]

To get an honest failure rate, every 790/890 should have its valve cover pulled off and have the cams inspected. How many folks are riding around with compromised cams and don’t know it? It’s not until the first valve adjust at 18k miles that cams are inspected. I think the failure rate would be much higher. In my circle, I know 3 of 6 that had bad cams. The other 3 (including mine) have not had the valve cover off yet. My bike only had 2.5k miles on it.

[@Phl_b]

Fair call on the incident rate. An inspection test would be more accurate, yes. But it's a simpl repair now dealers have stock, and it's covered by warranty. So, not an issue any more anyway

[@890RallyAdventureR]

Awesome video mate!! Now I don’t think I need to upload my version of our chat! :) Handsome devils too!

[@Phl_b]

Thanks mate. You talk a lot of sense! ;-)

[@gxm164]

Like you, my previous bike was a 701 and I share the exact same opinion: my 701 was slightly better in the trails, but waaaay less versatile. I wanted an adventure bike that would be less tireing on long stretches of easier roads, but also capable on trails and the inevitable obstacle you will encounter. From my research the 890 fit the bill and after twoyears of ownership I can attest that the reputation is well founded, this bike is special, its my unicorn and I will keep it a long time.

[@Phl_b]

Here's to the next 50,000! 😃😃

[@mortaygo1]

I wonder where Chris got his "facts" from. The day I was in Springwood ktm they had 3 890s waiting on cams.....

[@Phl_b]

I have seen a couple of numbers published, so you can search them. One was 0.5% to your point, but Chris is generally much better informed on these matters than I am ;-)

[@orlandoberry4031]

I know a number of guys who ride 890’s. Not one of them has had an issue.

[@Phl_b]

Exactly my point!

[@troygalbraith625]

Not a KTM owner, but when looking around a few dealers there was a scary amount of 790/890’s sitting in the workshops with the engines in piece’s, something ain’t right with them

[@Phl_b]

We all need to make a decision that we're happy with Troy. And I for one, just love riding, so all power to anyone who is out there enjoying riding, on whatever bike. In my experience the bikes I've had have been faultless. As the admin of this forum, I see a lot of noise about the problem, but in reality the incidence of this problem is far less than the social noise would suggest. I'm not pretending the issue doesn't exist. I am stating that KTM now have a very workable resolution to the few bikes it does affect. Good luck with your new bike and see you out there!

[@troygalbraith625]

@ Decided this wasn’t the right kind of bike for me at the moment, but really hope KTM sort out there problems

[@Phl_b]

​@@troygalbraith625 Good luck with your new ride Troy 👊

[@colinleask7112]

All very nice but you didn't address the elephant in the room what's the Rally worth now.!!! If you want to trade it against something new even Ktm won't touch it...ask me how do I know?

[@Phl_b]

When did you trade your rally, and with how many ks?

[@JamieBroughton70]

Yeah, nah, selling my Africa twin to buy a ktm790/890 but will go honda transalp now.always wanted a ktm, but I need reliability.

[@Phl_b]

Each to their own mate. Enjoy!

[@JamieBroughton70]

@Phl_b don't get me wrong, i loved riding the 790 for a few days, but until ktm are sorted out, I can't afford extra costs here and there as I ride 95% and drive 5%.

[@Phl_b]

@@JamieBroughton70 even if you are one of the 0.5 or 0.2% whatever it is, these parts are warrantied and in stock in all leading dealers now. Not the problem it used to be.

[@JamieBroughton70]

@Phl_b Yeah, I have spoken to ktm in Wangaratta, and they have assured me they cover all warranties through Ktm scary really just raking the leap as the ktm 790 really suits all my requirements especially in the Victorian high country having 20lt tank and the weight distribution i found it amazing i rode it for 7hrs doin blue rag Billy goats bluff. It was unstoppable. I'm not saying I won't get a 790/890 as there's one 2023mdl in new brand new for just under 14k, 790s but I think I'd go the R mdl

[@Phl_b]

@@JamieBroughton70 fekking amazing price mate! I'd be jumping on that option personally ;-)

[@jpwerth8610]

Why are you guys lying about it being 0.2% failure rate when KTM themselves said it is 05%...? Plus with an ongoing court case it came to light (which they were forced by the court) that the failure rate is WAY more. I myself had two engine failures in 14 months, had to buy a used engine that also failed prior to me purchasing it. It had double to triple the amount of services required and still failed. I know of numerous people with 790/890/901s with failures all with more than the required amount of services. Just because it didn't happen to yours doesn't mean it is not happening worldwide. And the fact that you are trying to play it down is a massive slap in the face to each person who had a failure and was mistreated by KTM.

[@Phl_b]

@jpwerth8610 not trying to play it down at all. I have read the 0.5 figure as well, but Chis is better informed than me. Sorry to hear about your bikes. Hopefully, you have a good dealer sorting them out for you.

[@jpwerth8610]

@@Phl_b ZERO support from the dealers or KTM, I'm down R100k financially for these failures. Then why say it is not an issue and gets blown out of proportion? Failure rates are way higher mate.

[@mortaygo1]

State your reference?? What was the research pool? Chris and 3 mates??.

[@JinKazama92]

If your engine failed despite having double or triple the services, that means your dealer NEVER checked the conditions of the cams in ANY of those services. It seems to be very common that people with ''failed engines'' can't do a camshaft inspection themselves. It's not even that complicated. How do you think people with 20 year old KTM's manage to keep their bikes running without dealer support?

[@mortaygo1]

​@JinKazama92 20 year old KTMs were not like these fragile heaps of junk