50 Watts vs 100 Tube Amp, Which is better?

[@EricShreds]

I messed up the 6505+ sounds bad after volume passes 4 not 7..

[@barrygomez5968]

I was gonna say! Haha im THAT guy who has his 6505 plus going thru two 4x12's. One has Sheffields and other hs gt75. Nice blend although i think its a bit much. Also, green channel on 6505+ is Girth central. You ever try that or u mainly on the red?

[@EricShreds]

@@barrygomez5968 who uses the green channel on a 6505 thats unheard of lol

[@barrygomez5968]

@@EricShreds yup green boosted is boss. Especially if you have active pickups

[@chucktalley6110]

I have a jvm 205 h and was considering buying a jvm 210h because it is 100watt but after seeing this i will probably just keep rocking my 50 watt jvm.

[@ErrorlVlacro]

@@EricShreds I’ve actually been playing around NOT with the red channel lately. Even been fiddling with a DS1 and a SD1 together and getting a decent sound. Of course the SD1 on red sounds awesome, but something about having pedals to play around with now I’ve been experimenting and doing things I wouldn’t normally do in the past to see what is possible. Green channel with SD1 is good. The DS1 alone for metal is a no go, but add that SD1 and you can get some decent tones. Can’t wait to get more pedals to play with. Looking forward to the Metal Zone. This is all on the 6505+. I did buy a Spider V 112 used and it actually sounds good with the Fluff Big Chug setting. And got a little 20w version to play around with too. Scored all this and a few pedals from a local pawn shop. They have a Valvestate 100w there. Not in the best shape, but thinking about grabbing it sometime if I can get a good deal.

[@bradleestone5344]

I never even considered a 50 watt , those are some strong pros 🤔❗

[@entertaintech4374]

As an engineer I’ve told bands to turn down with 5150 combos, and I ended up taking them out of the mains because it’s just too much, with the pa struggling to get the vocals audibly loud enough. So, louder isn’t always better.

[@rustynales4597]

There are 60 and 120 watt 5150 combos. I have 120 6505 and it's never gone past 4.5

[@zzubuzz]

If you like a big bottom end than 100, it is not about playing louder, it's a different sound and also the percussive attack you get from 2x as much power. I just wished I was able to play it louder but I'm living in the suburbs with houses around me so they'd get annoyed pretty quick if I fully utilized the real power of 100 watts.

[@jacksonvenable4651]

1:15 love the LEGO figures man

[@grumpyoldrockers1048]

First I've ever heard of 100w having more bottom end chug. Not to be argumentative, but never in all my years have I played a 50w head that didn't have enough bottom end. Especially the 50 watt EVH 5150 III 6L6 head you have. I've owned several hundred watt heads and 50 watt heads, give me 50 Watts all day long. As you mentioned in your video, not enough noticeable difference in volume. Great vid!

[@timjenkins502]

I converted my 6505 60 watt combo amp into a head. Best of both worlds honestly!

[@kylekoenigseggjackson2143]

Hi Eric Shreds i totally agree with this video and true 100 watts is only 3 decibels louder than 50 watts i have the Boss Katana 50, 100 and Artist 1×12 i also have a Marshall MX412BR straight 4×12 cab 240 watts RMS which is only 6 decibels louder than a 1×12

[@dpark551]

1:25 in made me laugh lol

[@EricShreds]

Fuck... lol oh well :D

[@kcrich1310]

I recently got a Hotone Ampero modeler and a Headrush FRFR speaker cab. I put a Digitech Drop tune pedal and a wah pedal in front of the Ampero and use the pedal on the Ampero as a volume pedal since the unit is so small that the pedal is too small and stiff to be used as a wah (especially with my size 15 feet). Since I've had it my EVH 5150 III 50 watt and 4x12 cabs have been collecting dust. If I ever get in a band again and play gigs this is going to be my rig. I know there's people out there who still say they suck compared to tube amps but the truth is I've seen too many bands use similar type modelers and they sound fine. Maybe there's a difference in a recording studio but on stage at a club there's definitely a difference in size and convenience. Oh and those yamahas are great practice amps. I got the thr10X. Even that has been collecting dust because the Ampero is so small and convenient.............

[@bradleestone5344]

I'm getting a better "doom metal" sound using my hoof fuzz and ect. with a Fender solid state than with my Fender tube 😮❗

[@kcrich1310]

@@bradleestone5344 Dime used a Randall solid state. I quit tone chasing. I'm not spending any more money trying to get the perfect sound. Tone is in the hands. In tune on time. I just want to play my guitar not play around with it...........

[@kcrich1310]

I haven't even made any of my own patches on my ampero. I found a rhythm, lead and clean already on there that I liked and called it good..........

[@castleanthrax1833]

Very few people watching can tell the difference, and even fewer care. Go with what inspires you, and what is most convenient.

[@JosiahMyatt]

I have a Hiwatt L100R, 100 Watt head going into a verticle 2x12 cab, and a Hiwatt custom 7, 7 watt 10 inch combo. The custom 7 has quite a bit of clean headroom for a low wattage amp. I have to crank the gain and master to get a good overdrive tone. Sounds EPIC but it's too damn loud!

[@Killa-B33]

Thanks for the input!

[@physiciansassist1]

Friedman amps do the chug bottom end thing at all watts.

[@AtTheSourceStudios]

You can overtake drums with a 20watt head tbh. Even on a 1x12 but if you're unmicd with any amp you'll want a 2x12 for sonic spread. You don't need 50watts to get over drums. Please lol You also don't need "low end bass" because well you're not playing bass...

[@kfr5018]

Some people like that tone better though - granted ya it probably won’t cut through as well.

[@eddie51502012]

Good advices!!! so useful. Thanks for sharing

[@TAM-gz5tc]

Fender twin best for clean, overdrive marshall 50 watt 800 series

[@TheMindChangersMusic]

Thank you for the video, all th best for you!!!!

[@ronchinderle576]

Tube heads, rule!

[@poseidon5003]

Dude...that intro was hardcore.

[@johanjotun1647]

What about the amp heads that let you select the wattage? I have a 2x12"/16ohm 30w tube combo and as soon as my kid ghets on the 22"holychina and dbl kicks the guitfiddle goes MIA.... You say 50w is enough to hear with drums and bass, and ive seen 50w heads with adjustable wattage are those quite enough to play with ppl upstairs in bed AND do the power trio thing?

[@EricShreds]

Oh yes all u really need in my opinion to do anything (with a tube head live) 40watts With a 212. 412 for more bass. U can use more but it's just sound u like at that point

[@SuperRandomawsomeguy]

Hey dude. I just saw the new music video for your band. It was great. You have got to go on tour again or play some more shows in Florida. The fans miss you guys :( maybe you could open up for a day to remember and underoath. Those bands are playing at the house of blues in orlando in novemeber. Afterall, you guys opened up for the plot in you. Anyway, you and your band should keep doing what you do, because you and your band are amazing. :) Let me know if you get my message buddy. Thanks.

[@EricShreds]

Hell yeah man thank you! And we did record at adtr studio which was cool, we are locals in orlando :)

[@SuperRandomawsomeguy]

@@EricShreds So do you have more shows planned in Florida? :)

[@mdanthony18]

Can I request a shootout video? A tube head over 100 watts vs. A solid state under 100 watts OR A solid state over 100 watts vs. A tube head under 100 watts :D

[@adamziolkowski2549]

I wish jazz/blues players would still use these big boy amplifiers. You show up with a JMP 1959 and 4x12 x2 and everyone loses their cool

[@philarson297]

Been doing perfectly fine with my h&k gm 40 at 9 and half o clock plus a 44 watt mangum exh power amp going out the line out to a 2x12 stack on a 4x12 sooo god damn loud for el 84s. Look up active arson live

[@dynkle]

How do you get messa out of Mesa. It's Mesa Arizona not Messa Arizona there's no other way to pronounce Mesa its Maysa

[@jdomin21]

Dude thank you so much!!!!! I was struggling between a SS 120 watt head or a tube 45 watt head. I’m going for the 45 watt one . Thank you!

[@NefariousDreary]

What kind of camera you use, bro? Is it the Zoom Q8?

[@EXMORr]

Eric What is The Name of Your Band

[@randorider2801]

I like smaller heads cause of the saturation.

[@kevinortiz4755]

So, how far would you have to turn up the volume on your Mg100 to match the 5150 at half way up?

[@EricShreds]

Not sure the prob be the same volume tube tends to be louder but mg100 is Loud too

[@RocknJazzer]

So just talk, no demo? It's all theory then

[@evenzeroescanbeheroes6875]

Kurt Cobain Jr.? Is that you?

[@ns2joel]

David Spade

[@coolbro6969]

i love you.

[@adrienlerouge9887]

I can tell that you have a lot of gear. There has to be something that you never use. If there is, why not sell it, make a profit, and invest on something ever better?

[@94SexyStang]

50watt is pretty Nuclear!....... anything "close" to 3/4 volume....forget it.....had to buy a wireless setup, and go stand like 50 feet away Outside, LOL.