500 Miles on the NEW Tarmac SL8: Is it Venge? Aethos? SL7?

[@outdoorbros_]

SL8 questions? Drop em below 👇🏻

[@FuchsHorst]

Can you show how to adjust handlebars and stem for ergonomic fitting? Couldn't find any details with the new design of the SL 8?

[@Avry1Eats]

I was very very happy with my Dogma F until I watched your review and decided to give the SL8 a good run for the money. I used to have a SL6 and I hated it and sold it in less than 2 weeks of owning it.

[@Thieb25]

Hi, thanks a lot for this review ! I am looking to purchase a new bike but I am still hesitating between Aethos and SL8. What would you recommend? I love climbing so I thought Aethos was for me, but the performances of the SL8 in climbing seems amazing as well, with the aero benefits that the Aethos does not have! What do you think?

[@outdoorbros_]

@@Thieb25 based on my riding style, I would choose the SL8. It’s a great bike.

[@Thieb25]

Thanks for your reply. I did go to my local Specialized store and they also advice me the Aethos. Main reason is that, I am a superlight weight my self as well (55kg). The guy told me the tarmac is great if you like to push hard on the pedals but if you like climbing and have a high cadence like I do, Aethos will be much easier to ride. Especially if my main goal isnt competition. Agree with that?@@outdoorbros_

[@maxMax-ns9pg]

Honestly the only KZbinr I feel qualified to give a real opinion on the SL8

[@LOGICAL-JAY]

I agree 💯

[@outdoorbros_]

Dang, that's quite the title- thank you. I appreciate the vote of confidence.

[@astrayagrarian]

I wonder how much they paid him to make this video 😂

[@outdoorbros_]

@@astrayagrarian come on, now. That was a predictable comment. Let’s try again…

[@astrayagrarian]

@@outdoorbros_ and your response is typical and to be expected as well.

[@PhotoColin]

I always appreciate how you structure your videos. So well planned and packing a ton in ~10 min.. Keep it up!

[@outdoorbros_]

Thanks so much- glad you like them!

[@HugoArraiolos-rv8wm]

Amazing review, refreshing to see a objective unbiased review. Keep doing it! Tired of all these channels doing “reviews” by simply reading a script from the brands

[@outdoorbros_]

Thanks! I tried to offer my subjective review instead of the classic talking points (which have their place, but not for this video).

[@astrayagrarian]

You honestly believe this is an honest review?

[@richardkeiser2337]

Great to have a review from someone with so much experience with the Specialized line-up. Thank you!

[@outdoorbros_]

Thank you! I'm glad it resonated.

[@toms2jz464]

I saw all the reviews for this bike, I waited for yours before I pulled the trigger on buying one . Great vid thank you!

[@outdoorbros_]

Thank you! Hope it came across in a way that makes sense and resonates well.

[@kennedystuart5685]

Excellent review as always. Truly love the honesty and unbiased review. Keep up the great work.

[@outdoorbros_]

Thanks! Trying to sift through the marketing jargon and provide the review based on experience, not the buzzwords.

[@pjohns8]

Continue to enjoy your thoughts, keep them coming.

[@outdoorbros_]

Thanks so much!

[@choebo69]

These reviews are awesome. Thanks for sharing your perspective. Looking forward to seeing it the next time I’m in the OC and see you on the coffee crew ride!

[@outdoorbros_]

Thanks! Come on out- it's a fun group.

[@BOSKASAURUS]

Literally so refreshing to have an honest review without the marketing spiel others are doing right now. I’m undecided between and aethos and sl8 and this has helped a lot

[@kristofferguerra569]

save your money lots of great race bikes out there that does not cost a fortune

[@outdoorbros_]

Thank you. Go for the SL8 and don't look back... unless you're married to the styling of the Aethos.

[@outdoorbros_]

Also a logical option.

[@kristofferguerra569]

You really think this is not a marketing spiel? He even has an sworks logo at the background the entire time

[@outdoorbros_]

@@kristofferguerra569 easy there. That box is from a Trek mountain bike I bought for my wife years ago. The boxes above it are from the Enve Melee and the other is from my Reserve Wheels. No marketing spiel, sorry.

[@anthonyagee8737]

My SL8 experience mirrors yours. My SW Aethos has sat in the garage untouched since I got my SL8. It literally does everything my Aethos does but better with the sole exception of comfort. This is saying a lot because the Aethos was formerly the best bike I've ever ridden. I do think the Roval cockpit is the star of the show.

[@outdoorbros_]

It'll be interesting to see if you go back to the Aethos at some point. There's value in that familiarity...

[@EddyCat1234]

Might just stick the new roval cockpit on my Aethos. Assuming I can get one and it fits?

[@orlandostuart5805]

No stone left unturned. Thanks for an excellent review. NOBODY (really), nobody does it better!

[@outdoorbros_]

Dang, so kind! Thank you.

[@marcosav5442]

it gives it a lot of credibility and respect you do pay for your stuff and own it as we all do, instead of traditional 8 hours babbling reviews. Thanks.

[@outdoorbros_]

Thanks! If I receive anything, I add the disclaimer at the beginning. Not that it changes my opinion, but I think it's worth noting.

[@Veloworthy]

Can't wait to get my hands on this bike! Great video.

[@outdoorbros_]

Thank you! I’m anxious to hear your thoughts.

[@YtseHWSW]

I run the Rapide barstem on my bike (not a Specialized) since it was introduced a couple of months ago. It has totally transformed how it rides, handles and feels. I think you shoud compare the SL8 and SL7 with the same bar/stem combo to get a clear(er) picture.

[@outdoorbros_]

That would be a fun comparison, no doubt.

[@arthur.vdv1425]

Do you think the rapids cockpit is a good upgrade for a specialised diverge? I am looking to upgrade a few components on my diverge and I feel like the rapids cockpit would be a beautiful addition, let alone the performance improvements (more aero, carbon fibre construction etc). Keen to hear your thoughts about it :)

[@YtseHWSW]

@@arthur.vdv1425 the Rapide bar is wonderful, but I'd not use it on any bike where front end comfort matters (eg riding on bad quality roads or off-road), as it's very stiff

[@NateCazier]

Riding the apex on your turn at 7:43 was a thing of beauty

[@outdoorbros_]

Why, thank you. Let's hope we can pull off something similar tomorrow at mile 110.

[@chriscapotosto]

Y’all see that pothole at 9:36? I broke my rim on that pothole. Nice review on the SL8 Chris. I really enjoyed the sport mode analogy. Hearing your unbiased ride-feel view is really valuable having owned the venge, aethos, & SL7.

[@outdoorbros_]

Thanks! Glad you liked it. That pothole is terrible along with a few others on that descent.

[@byrontheduke1]

Thanks a lot Chris for all your great content. Much appreciated buddy 🤙

[@outdoorbros_]

Thanks so much!

[@jbaairways2763]

Best Un Biased review in the bike industry hands down. Thanks for touching on statics, I know the SL7 looks much better than the SL8.

[@outdoorbros_]

Thank you, very kind. It is what it is- we might be entering an era where bikes look funky in hopes of chasing aero gains.

[@erickcustomersupport3677]

thank you chris! this is how a performance review should be! on point!

[@outdoorbros_]

Thank you! Just tried to keep it subjective and limited to what it's like to ride it.

[@alde1759]

You review bikes like no other. Always watching and waiting for new video.

[@outdoorbros_]

Whoa, thank you!

[@billyblanco8106]

I LUUUUUVVVV the ride of my S-Works SL3, Highroad version...2011 TdF bike !!!

[@outdoorbros_]

Sounds perfect!

[@SAnderson77]

Picked my build up today but the great British weather let me down 🌧️. Out on it tomorrow and yes it looks better in the flesh. I did not get to see the frame before the bike was built and I am not disappointed at all. Have a weight weenie build myself coming in at 6kgs on a 54cm frame with a set of 50/60 wheels. Super excited to get on it Sunday

[@outdoorbros_]

Rad! How was it?

[@SAnderson77]

@@outdoorbros_ honestly the bike is definitely more comfortable in the rear compared with both the Venge and SL7 Stiffness well I cannot find any noticeable difference myself between this and the SL7 it’s a stiff bike and I am 85kgs Not as twitchy in the front as the SL7 I find and handles well. Speed hmmm well the venge was fast the SL7 was fast and I have no measuring equipment but this bike is also fast 😂. I have a weight weenie but rideable bike at 5.87kgs so it’s also great on the climbs. Venge was great but such a harsh ride , SL7 much better comfort wise SL8 a small improvement over SL7 looks better in the flesh that the photo. I really don’t know how they will better it in 3years time!

[@LOGICAL-JAY]

Im glad im not the only one that likes the esthetics of the SL7 more than the SL8..I like the SL8 but i prefer the SL7's seat stays, seat post, top and bottom tubes..they look more aero...i can't lie I do like the new SL8 roval one piece handlebar..but the fact that the SL8 is lighter and some what faster im sold..lol..i love my s-works SL7 so im in no rush to switch over..maybe next year when more colors come out..but its still a big "MAYBE"..LOL..

[@nanthilrodriguez]

Literally every comment I've seen on aesthetics of the SL8 is that it looks goofy and unflattering. So like... What do you mean "I'm glad I'm not the only one", when you literally have the normie take

[@outdoorbros_]

I wish I could say I love the aesthetics of the SL8, but they're just... different? Your SL7 is still a gem, don't ditch it.

[@outdoorbros_]

I don't think he meant that he's just the only one- just using the phrase.

[@nicholastopley7611]

Great review, look forward to next week

[@outdoorbros_]

Thank you!

[@kentao4]

The way you explain things is exactly how I think. I appreciate your perspective. I have been going back and forth on saving a bit on sl7 deals and just going to sl8. $500 difference between the sl7 and sl8 pro doesn’t seem like enough to go sl7. Now, I need to decide whether I want Shimano or SRAM.

[@outdoorbros_]

Hard to say- they're similar with a few differences. Re: the groupset- Shimano, all day.

[@kentao4]

@@outdoorbros_ it’s so polarizing and there is no consensus! I had di2 on my previous bike but got caught not being charged and there’s no option but to wait. I have sram axs on my mtb and at least I can just throw a battery in my pocket. It’s just more convenient. I don’t know how I feel about using both hands for up and down shifting and both for the front. Thanks for your input!

[@kkaranr]

Excellent review as usual. Sums up the SL8! I pulled the trigger because of our chat and loving it more more everytime I ride it.

[@outdoorbros_]

Awesome, enjoy!

[@JoseRios-mw2lo]

awesome input thank you Cris for your observations and point of view on the SL8 love it !!!!!!

[@outdoorbros_]

Much appreciated!

[@rolffuchs2737]

You can argue about specialized marketing, prices but never about the handling. I`ve ridden several different bikes Epic, Enduro, Fatboy, Creo Evo, Tarmac, Roubaix and I can say they all handled superb.

[@outdoorbros_]

I tend to agree.

[@leetdude]

Thanks for your review. I committed on a Dune White frame before watching your video. I’m coming from a Dogma F platform. Now I’m super excited to get mine built.. SportPlus!!

[@outdoorbros_]

Congrats! Let me know what you think after you've ridden it.

[@gerard45gh]

Thanks for this your review is the best so far look forward to more of your content soon..Cheers I've seen the Sl8 pro in the flesh was lucky enough to take for a spin I was really impressed with it I've owned probably 20 bikes in the past from Pinarellos to Specialized Sworks 3 and 6 so if I had to money I'd buy one in a heart beat..

[@outdoorbros_]

That's some great feedback! What'd you like about the Pro?

[@seanmccuen6970]

you got me at the props for shallow depth wheels. thumbs up.

[@outdoorbros_]

You're a fan? I think we all need to start going shallower...

[@seanmccuen6970]

yep, I'm a fan. I don't race and I'll take better stability in wind and less weight for snappiness and climbing all the way. running 39R/36F depths (with 22.5mm inner diameter). fast and versatile.@@outdoorbros_

[@frozzberg]

The only review ill listen to! Coming from SL6 rim brake, the venge really feels harsh but manages to hold its speed way better. I wont deny i miss the SL6's liveliness, though i cant afford the SL8 yet, great to hear the SL8 working out well for you!

[@ZwiftDude]

Then get the SL7

[@frozzberg]

@@ZwiftDude 😆😆😆

[@outdoorbros_]

Thank you! Venge is still such a rocket ship!

[@outdoorbros_]

Or just stick with the Venge…

[@carlgoetzinger6876]

As a self proclaimed bicycle idiot (not up to date on what's new and current advancements in cycling) this SL8 seems like it might be a little more than I'd ever need. I like to ride anywhere and everywhere that I can so sometimes the wider tires lend to that, but with that said... This is an amazing looking bike. Seems like a hell of a ride for sure. Great video!

[@outdoorbros_]

Thanks! I think most modern bikes offer more than any of us are really capable of using to the fullest as are most other consumer goods.

[@carlgoetzinger6876]

@@outdoorbros_ honestly that’s a refreshing way to look at it. Spend way less time worrying about being over/under biked and just enjoy the ride no matter what!

[@NicoleGarrow]

I started to ride 5 years ago, never rode before and my first bike I purchased was SL 6, I absolutely love my bike I would live to get a SL 8. I am just an amateur rider.

[@NicoleGarrow]

I purchased Specialized tarmac SL 6 the top one.

[@cvonpete]

Yet again, another thoughtful, detailed and objective review. Always hit every single point with different angles. Outstanding….

[@outdoorbros_]

Very kind- thank you! Glad the review landed well with you.

[@seanstuck572]

I really like how he puts things into real world terms and applications. Most people, in my opinion, aren’t in tune enough to feel these things so for people to hear references to cars or other bikes is great! Also most of us don’t have a wind tunnel or honestly care about the 8 watt difference, we just want to know how it rides.

[@outdoorbros_]

Thank you- I'm glad that resonated. I think there's a difference between real-world aero and wind tunnel aero (that's a topic for another video).

[@ashdason8529]

Awesome review! Can’t wait to ride mine!

[@outdoorbros_]

Let me know what you think!

[@tolulopeobe]

Big man, I think it's a bit of an over reach to say most of us are "familiar with the 911 GT3RS" 😂😂😂 I wish I were "familiar" with it. Great review as always 👍🏾

[@MFASonic]

Who is looking to buy the S-WORKS Tarmac SL8 is quite probably familiar with the 911 GT3RS. Not?

[@outdoorbros_]

Hahaha, I hesitated with that- almost cut it out of the edit, but I walked it back with the "most of us are familiar with the 911, right?" I'm a casual car enthusiast, only have space for one expensive hobby (bikes).

[@Robert-mn8gc]

I have both an SL7 S-WORKS & SL8 S-WORKS, Both with the Roval Rapide CLX Aero Wheelsets 51/60 1400 gram 1st Edition Wheelsets. Also own a 3rd set . ❤ the SL7 S-WORKS. The SL8 S-WORKS is in my opinion 20/25 % better . 😅

[@outdoorbros_]

Nice quiver!

[@jcooley]

Good information! Thanks 🙏🏻 Currently in a SL8 vs Melee conundrum

[@outdoorbros_]

That’s a good conundrum to be in! Both great bikes.

[@NicoleGarrow]

Thank it was very helpful.

[@chrismccannIRL]

So I was on the fence on the SL8. Was weighing up an S Works 2023 SL8 at £10.5k (instead of £12k) and an S Works Aethos at £10k (instead of £12k). I wanted something different so was moving towards the Aethos… it then dropped to £8k as the new SRAM Red launched so I just had to order it. Arrives tomorrow with the savings enabling me to get a nice set of 45mm lightweight aero wheels (Vision Metron 45SL) and aero bar for the Aethos. Coming from an SL6 I’ll be curious to see the difference on a sprint or flat / rolling road but overall I’m looking forward to the hopefully comfortable 100km plus rides. Thanks for the content as always

[@BrianDwyer-yd1qo]

Great review, I always appreciate your thoughts. Well done and thank you!

[@outdoorbros_]

Very kind- thank you!

[@nicholasdavino9139]

Thank you great review

[@lazarosnikolaidis256]

Thank you for sharing your opinion with us regarding this new superbike. I admit, although Spe-head, I was a little skeptical about the equation 'Venge + SL7 + Aethos = SL8' and feedback from an experienced rider (that actually owned and put MILES on them) would be a must. Awaiting for your next comparison, SL8 Vs SL7. Well done.

[@outdoorbros_]

Thank you! Let's hope I don't set the bar too high on this SL7 vs. SL8 comparison...

[@dtrg65]

I have a 2020 Venge and a 2022 Aethos. I'm looking at the SL8 now. Problem is I have very niche uses for the other bikes so don't *really* want to sell them to fund the SL8. I think ultimately having the Venge as a crit bike, Aethos as a weight weenie project, and SL8 as road race bike makes sense but damn, it's a lot of money tied up and depreciating in niche bikes lol.

[@outdoorbros_]

That’s a lot of bikes for specific purposes- lucky!

[@teslajoe5914]

Excellent video - just bought an SL8 SWorks set up almost identically to yours and agree with all your comments. Not sure why yet, but it also seems easier to put more power into this bike than my Pinarello Dogma for example. Might just be "new bike syndrome" as I only have about 100 miles on it so faqr.

[@adossantos69751]

SL7 owner here. I’m looking to upgrade to the new Rapide one piece handlebars. How would rate the handlebars compared with the old ones. Awesome review by the way! I’m most definitely not upgrading to the new SL8, I love my SL7 to bits, it’s probably the best looking road frame-set I ever had. 👏

[@outdoorbros_]

The SL7 is incredible, no doubt. I like the look and feel of the one-piece handlebars. It's a pricey upgrade for a few watts, but if you want a happy-medium...

[@housepfhoopz]

the bar is amazing i manage install it on the specialized venge it complete transform the ride quality compare to the 2 piece system it originally came with this bar is definitely worth it just need to get an adapter for it

[@adossantos69751]

I have been on the lookout but I’m yet to find my size in stock, 38/100. Thanks!

[@adossantos69751]

Thanks for your unbiased option,👏👍🏽.

[@muzaffarjohari3155]

@@housepfhoopz I am also looking to install the bar to my venge. Can you share how have the ride quality changed? Thanks in advance.

[@Chimy1423]

Great, excellent review. A bike for a few who can pay that amount of money without worrying about how much will remain in the bank. account. For less money, the Cannondale Super Six EVO 2 with Ultegra Di2, HollowGram R 45 wheels and Vision Trimax Carbon Aero bars.

[@outdoorbros_]

Thanks! SuperSix Evo also sounds like a winner.

[@gj8051]

Beautiful gravelbike

[@outdoorbros_]

The SL8?

[@gj8051]

@@outdoorbros_ yes

[@dickieblench5001]

I still can't take a road bike seriously with disc brakes

[@michaelhoult9]

Love your videos!! Top content ! Thank you

[@outdoorbros_]

Thanks so much!

[@B_KFC_Leg]

Interest to see your opinion around putting the new Roval cockpit on the SL7.

[@outdoorbros_]

I think it's an expensive upgrade, but cool idea. I'm not sure you'd notice the watt savings in the real world.

[@s1ngularityxd64]

does the bottom bracket feels stiff? Not much material in that area.. 🤔

[@outdoorbros_]

Feels plenty stiff to me.

[@BrandonAquino-mu5fl]

Great review as always Chris! I think you should be Head of Specialized marketing team. You are true to the brand! Cheers! :)

[@outdoorbros_]

Haha, thanks!

[@Ghost12561]

I dropped a semi-pro dude on a sl8 against my 2021 trek madone in a all out sprint yesterday!

[@superstrada6847]

There are other reasons to own a bike. Aesthetics; You briefly mentioned this early in the video. For the average club rider the weight and aero benefits will never be realized (these are marginal, marginal gains). The rounded tube shapes and beluga front-end give pause to the eye. Yes one will eventually get used to it but the SL7 I believe is one of the most beautiful production bikes ever made. It is fast and light enough for 98% of riders. The 2022 SL7 with the new one piece cockpit gets you 80% of the gains of the SL8. So, congratulations to all SL7 owners: You have one of the best production bikes ever made and it looks like a Ferrari. Nice review, thanks.

[@outdoorbros_]

No doubt. Another reason why I'm hesitant to let go of my SL7.

[@NicoleGarrow]

I agree with you.

[@mohamadjamil3164]

Another great video. I am getting my frame RTP next week. I will set it up with ultegra and new handlebar. Am also keeping the aethos. It is just a great bike. Just like the sl7

[@outdoorbros_]

Nice! That's quite the quiver you're building. You'll have to let me know your thoughts on it when you get a chance to ride it.

[@mohamadjamil3164]

@@outdoorbros_ I almost bought the Remco frame earlier this year in white. I thought that waiting for the new release would be rewarding. Am a bit disappointed because the sl7 looks sleeker and nicer…. Nonetheless happy to try the new tarmac for the coming 2 years

[@outdoorbros_]

@@mohamadjamil3164 is the SL8 what you expected? You had hinted at “big things coming” for a while.

[@Alanovision]

Did you have any visibility issues with your bike computer when using the one piece cockpit? Great video by the way.

[@outdoorbros_]

Thanks! No issues with visibility.

[@Alanovision]

@@outdoorbros_ 👍👍👍

[@thecritdad]

As a Venge owner, I'm sold.

[@outdoorbros_]

I think you'll be pleased to get a lot of the Venge advantages with a lot of Tarmac sprinkled in.

[@zerocharlie]

I have been gobbling up SL8 reviews online, and like many others have said, this was a great review without any marketing lingo. Question for you: I have an SWorks SL6 now that I love. How do you think the SL8 differs from the 6? I didn’t upgrade to an SL7, but I think it might be time now. What are your thoughts for someone who is a couple of generations behind and considering an upgrade?

[@outdoorbros_]

Not sure I'm well-qualified to take this one because I've never ridden the SL6- I was a Venge guy until the SL7. If you just to the SL7 or SL8, I think you're going to find that they're stiffer, faster/better at holding speed and more responsive- at least that's what I have gathered from my friends who rode SL6's. That's not to say that you couldn't achieve a lot of those results by upgrading wheels, tires, helmet, adjusting positioning, etc., but the bike will definitely feel different.

[@benjaminwolf9801]

So if someone is getting back in to cycling after some years off, but has no interest in racing which would you recommend; SL7 or SL8? Riding would either be solo or lively group rides on weekends.

[@outdoorbros_]

Save a little money and go with the SL7.

[@DEXVD]

Would really like to hear your comparison of the GP 5000 and the Corsa Pro, based on BRR's testing leaning towards the Corsa Pro for my SL8.

[@outdoorbros_]

I think they’re great. Longevity is the question that I haven’t quite answered.

[@ringzero9757]

It’s good to know that you paid full pop for the bike. Do you have any other relationship with specialized?

[@outdoorbros_]

Nope. I wish I did so I didn't have to pay full pop.

[@BicycleMotorpacer]

Color question. I can get a 58cm SL8 SWorks w/Di2 in the Viavi Cynan color but only shipped from quite a distance. My string preference would be true matte black and I am pretty unsure about the blue Cynan sheen. YT vids and online images help a bit but it seems hard to capture. $15k+ a lot to spend w/o a greater comfort level re: the color. Can you quantify how blue it is? Is it more matte black? Thx!

[@outdoorbros_]

I’ve only seen one in person and it, along with the black/pink one look matte black until the light hits it just right. I’d wait and get exactly what you want and see it in person first.

[@m_invest5336]

Hello, what do you think about wheels ? Roval or it's better to take other brands like enve etc ? Thx 👍

[@christoffertews9792]

How does it compare to the Enve Melee?

[@outdoorbros_]

The stiffness is very Melee-like.

[@tonybasoni8443]

Curious as to how you feel is compares to the Enve Melee?

[@outdoorbros_]

The Melee is great- very similar in terms of stiffness. I might have to get my hands on a Melee again and refresh my memory...

[@tonybasoni8443]

,...Yeah, they would be great to hear a comparison between the SL8 and the Melee.@@outdoorbros_

[@sbellidog]

Looking forward your thoughts on lower profile rims. I'm planning on a Sl8 with ultegra and i'm not convinced on the stock deep profile stock wheels. I'm planning to actually ask the dealer to swap them by an equivalent (in terms of hubs) set of 33mm deep Alpinists. The benefits of such deep wheels (50mm and above) come at very high speeds that I usually never ride at. On the other hand, taking into account how windy it is where I live, and the climbs around my home... the alpinists would make more sense.

[@outdoorbros_]

At this point, I’m really into the more shallow wheels. They’re much faster than anticipated.

[@sbellidog]

@@outdoorbros_ Not sure if it is because it is what I want to see but I'm under the impression than more pros are using shallower wheels more often now

[@bbde1980]

Chris, how‘s the comfort of the SL8 when compared to the Aethos? I tried the SL7 and the Aethos two years ago and found the SL7 too harsh, while the Aethos is a dream to ride. If they managed to make the SL8 (almost) as comfortable as the Aethos, I‘d be sold. Thanks for the great review!

[@PeteyBoy10150]

I had this same dilemma when I was test riding the SL7 vs the Aethos. I picked the Aethos due to its much nicer ride quality compared to the SL7. The SL8 was released literally 3 days later. I went back to my LBS, tried out the SL8 and it felt almost just as comfortable as the Aethos. Traded in my Aethos for the SL8 right after that lol

[@bbde1980]

@@PeteyBoy10150 Thanks, that really helps. I told myself I will reward myself with the new frame if I finish a certain project, so will stick to that plan. I love the Aethos, but I wouldn't mind some aero gains. 😃 Have fun riding!

[@outdoorbros_]

I'd still say the Aethos is the more comfortable bike. The SL8 has a lot of Venge DNA.

[@outdoorbros_]

Wow, that's awesome that the shop let you do that!

[@bbde1980]

@@outdoorbros_ Thanks Chris, guess there's only one way to find out whether it's comfortable enough... 😇

[@ozgurinsan]

why is the video pixelated in some sections?

[@outdoorbros_]

Who knows... if you know a good video editor, please send them my way :)

[@ozgurinsan]

@@outdoorbros_ davinci resolve?

[@outdoorbros_]

@@ozgurinsan premiere.

[@DEXVD]

So much debate on how much better, if at all, the SL8 is than the SL7. The SL7 was good enough (its still very competitive and an industry standard as an all-round road race bike), that even with only a few tweaks over the SL7 the marginal gains of the SL8 makes one of the best bikes even better. It's lighter, the steerer issue was addressed and apparently is more responsive due to reinforcement at the BB. Maybe its slightly more aero but even if its exactly the same, if they made it a special edition SL7 with those tweaks (even just lighter than the SL7 S-Works, without the other changes) the demand would still be insane. In Canada, its been impossible to get a Tarmac (in 49cm in a spec I wanted anyway) for over 2 years now, the only way I got an SL8 was because I saw the leaks, my LBS then spoke to the Specialized rep, who said none are available (1 week before the weekend announcement) and then came back a few days later with one that another shop had cancelled and became available. I was pretty close to missing out on another Tarmac release (would have been the 4th in 2 1/2 years). If there had been an Expert with 105 Di2 I would have went for that but other than the saddle and tires (maybe the cockpit down the line) there isn't much I feel I need to upgrade on the SL8 Pro Ultegra. Gonna Ride Wrap the frame and fork, degrease and wax the chain, swap the saddle for a SLR Boost (the 49 comes with a 155mm Power), get a fit and enjoy it.

[@outdoorbros_]

Tons of good debate about this one! Sounds like you snagged a great setup.

[@nanthilrodriguez]

Rode the SL8 at my local bike shop. Feels incredible to ride. The only thing preventing me from pulling the trigger is that I really wish it had that extra 2-4 MM clearance to fit a 32 or 35.

[@outdoorbros_]

Ahhh, got it. I think that the additional tire clearance just isn't necessary on a high end bike. Maybe a more "all road" bike ought to have clearance like that, but 32mm is sufficient.

[@anthonyhebert-trudeau6995]

I watched this video to buy a Tarmac SL8 but I ended up buying a Porsche 911 GT3 RS instead. Joking aside, I saw a SL8 in person and was impressed with numbers and features as always but the paint quality and finish around some edges left me sceptical. Did you notice this as well?

[@outdoorbros_]

Ha! I think we all need a 911 in our lives, don't we? I noticed a little issue where the fork meets the head tube, that's the only blemish I noticed.

[@jeffpabilonia]

just wondering if you sold your Aethos. I recently built mine up as climbing aero bike with SRAM Red 46/33 crank with ceramic BB, Red rear derailleur max 36T, 10-36 Force cassette, Force D2 lighter and more slender levers/calipers/Red rotors, Force D2 front derailleur (new cage shifts best) with wireless blips, Zipp 303 Firecrest, Roval Rapide Cockpit... fast on flats and uphill with aero focus, descends with the best, with all day comfort

[@outdoorbros_]

Unfortunately, the Aethos is gone. Sounds like your setup is amazing!

[@jeffpabilonia]

@@outdoorbros_ oh, I was hoping to see updates in your excellent reviews, enjoy your SL8 !!!

[@vs92384]

My question - given the bikes you’ve ridden. If someone is looking to add a road bike to their stable. Say if one has a Cervelo Caledonia and wants to add a faster sharper bike. Would you recommend the Tarmac SL8 pro or S works? Would you recommend anything from cervelo? What’s your thinking pattern here? I realize fit is important too. Thx bro and great review by the way.

[@outdoorbros_]

Pro vs S-Works is probably a question of budget. If you have the budget for the S-Works, you could make the argument that you should buy the Pro and use the money saved for worthwhile upgrades- a good bike fit, smart trainer, wheels, tires, etc.

[@guipinckaerts2555]

you should be working for Specialized… great review… Stay good

[@outdoorbros_]

Haha, thanks!

[@Geebus77]

Did you ever ride the sl5? Aero aside, that was one of my favorite handling bikes. It just felt a slightly more precise than the sl6 that I've been on for the last couple of years. I'm now looking at the sl8. Assuming you've ridden the sl5 and or sl6, how would you say the sl8 handling compares to those two bikes?

[@outdoorbros_]

Negative. I didn't jump on the Tarmac until the SL7.

[@Niggoification]

Hey man, I like the video, just one video production feedback point: it seems like there is quite a lot of unwanted fuzzy noise in your audio - not sure if it was present previously :)

[@outdoorbros_]

Do you know how to remove it? I notice it too.

[@Millicente]

With specialized putting sl7 builds on sale, is choosing the 7 over the 8 worth it for the 1000 or 2 saved? Sounds like the 8 is a more “enjoyable” ride if people enjoy the aspects of riding you highlighted

[@outdoorbros_]

I'll share more thoughts on that next week. The SL7 is definitely the value play at the moment.

[@lsgutah]

How much is the frame vs the crankset and wheel set in feel? Meaning, if you got a pro, but upgraded to Sram Red crank and high end wheels, are you able to feel much of a difference?

[@outdoorbros_]

I don't think there's a discernible difference between a Red and Force crankset- that's another reason I'm okay riding the all black Force crankset. Wheels are a noticeable difference. Go with the Pro and put your money into more worthwhile upgrades- I like that plan.

[@0nullrs]

What cycling computer is that?

[@outdoorbros_]

Hammerhead Karoo 2

[@ciw8688]

Would you say the bb stiffness is the same between the sl7 and sl8?

[@outdoorbros_]

I'd say the SL8 is noticeably more stiff.

[@budlacombe]

Good work 👊

[@outdoorbros_]

Thanks!

[@CycoWarriorx]

Great review… just what I was looking forward to… real world usage… the only thing that’s slightly annoying is the one piece bar/stem… if you’re trying to tailor in that fit, I’m guessing they’ll be some compromises or a hellava expensive adjustment… 😅🍻

[@outdoorbros_]

Thank you! Thankfully, my fit has been pretty dialed for a few years, so it was an easy swap. I have heard some say that the angle is > than the 6-degrees advertised, which has caused some fit issues.

[@CycoWarriorx]

@@outdoorbros_ oh wow… I’m running a 120/6… 😬

[@dumitruerhan5684]

If you had neither SL7 nor SL8, and were on the market for a fast group ride & racing bike to buy in the next couple of months, which would you actually choose?

[@outdoorbros_]

How long do you plan to keep the bike? What’s your budget?

[@dumitruerhan5684]

@@outdoorbros_ 3-5 years, targeting an s-works halo build

[@ttmb8171]

I'm in the market for a new bike and had settled on the Aethos but the Sl8 is giving me a headache as it seems to be an aero aethos. I'm 48 and do a 80-120 miles at the weekend with trainerroad training in the week. Ftp is 3.5 and ride with about 17mph average. Do I get the Aethos or sl8? When I ask for advice the aethos is recommended for the longer distances as its more comfortable. I'm not in races but don't get me wrong we all like faster times on strava. I should add I enjoy hill climbing and will be doing a few very hilly sportives.

[@BennyOcean]

For someone at the lower end of the market, how would the SL8 compare to something like the SL6? The older models are now discounted and it has me wondering if the 6 with Shimano 105 might be a nice bargain.

[@outdoorbros_]

I think the 6 and 7 are still excellent bikes.

[@boeing700]

Any chance you might get your hands on a Pinarello Dogma X? I’d love to get a SL8, but the reality is that at my age and fitness level, I need to be looking at the best endurance bike that will keep me riding. I mostly ride a gravel bike on pavement. But that’s due to the comfort level it brings. I’d like something faster, especially for the group rides, but with good levels of comfort.

[@ruisantos5746]

A review dogma F vs sl8 would be awesome!

[@outdoorbros_]

I put some feelers out on the Dogma- hopefully soon.

[@TheBarts27]

@@outdoorbros_ I ride an SL7 S-works and I like it a lot but I think I would go for the Dogma F if I could buy a new frameset tomorrow. Riding a Pinarello Dogma feels special (for me)

[@edsinger8900]

Chris, I’m currently on an S-Works SL5 and looking for a new bike ( it’s about time). Love the ride of my SL5. How does the SL8 compare. Is it just as comfortable? Or would you look at the Aethos or the ENVE Melee? I cycle 4 time per week and average 70-75 miles per ride during the summer. Winter time I cut it down to 200 miles per week. I do group rides and no racing. Your thoughts are appreciated.

[@matkrek]

Hilly terrain and avg speeds?

[@edsinger8900]

@@matkrek - Not hilly terrain - North of Dallas, Texas. Average speed 19.5 - 20.3

[@matkrek]

@@edsinger8900 deff sounds like a SL7/8 unless you need comfort

[@edsinger8900]

Would like to have the same comfort as my SL5!!

[@matkrek]

@@edsinger8900 well being able to run wider tyres and the frame improvements will deff give you the comfort on the SL8. The aethos is more pure comfort, like not stiff

[@razorree]

SL8 sure... is it so better than SL6 ? (2x times better?) is it way better than SL7 or is it better cuz it costs way more ?

[@outdoorbros_]

Both are great-- all depends on what you're after.

[@AB-st7tr]

Great review & well edited unlike the peanut disc bike hater durianrider who reviewed this bike with flat peddles & holey socks & expects people to take him seriously !

[@outdoorbros_]

Haha, I've heard more about this guy since posting the SL8 video than ever before. Maybe he's on to something.... flat pedals for the next bike?

[@fiLthy_Rx]

Absolutely no question that the SL7 is the better looking bike of the two. The 'Speed Sniffer' is just hideous.

[@outdoorbros_]

I think you'd be less offended by it in person.

[@thepatternforms859]

But does it climb as good as Atheos?

[@stangalley8995]

Ok….I’m sold

[@bendardania]

So you like how it feels, how it rides, you like most of how it performs , you just don’t like how it looks compare to sl7… I get it, feeling is the same. :) By the way, if you look in the back and you compare your Enve melee to sl8, I must say they look very similar.

[@outdoorbros_]

I think if you read between the lines, you'll know the outcome of the SL8 vs SL7 video- it's not "feeling is the same." I do agree that they look similar. In one of the shorts I posted, it was next to a Melee and they're very similar.

[@MarcraM82]

I'll keep my aethos

[@maciejkaseja1056]

SL 6 is my 3rd Spec bike. It came after Allez and Roubaix SL4. It is very, very responsive, agile, nimble to me compared to the former ones. It comes with Di2 Ultegra, Roval C38 wheels and SWorks seat post. It feels like made-to-measure to me. IMHO it looks a touch better compared to sl7 too ( tube shapes, dropped seat stays…). It does not have a so called clean look, however, but that is the only downside that I can see.

[@outdoorbros_]

And the SL6 is still such a great bike. If you moved the cables internally, you’d have a modern, clean look and I think people would love it.

[@mettacitta2000]

Best Tarmac EVER

[@sharonhenderson5780]

Yesss...love those tires as well. Great review. You need to try the new BMC Masterpiece...would love your review on that!!

[@outdoorbros_]

Thanks! If I can get my hands on a BMC, I'd love to.

[@Jakevil]

They need to bring back rim brake bikes.