52 Cents per mile!!?? | Cargo Van Business

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[@SilverSpurXpressLLC]

It is a relief to finally find some one that understands cost per mile as well as what it takes to do OTR. Regardless of the type of vehicle you drive. You are so right on these low balers . Like CJ said you have to understand that everybody's expenses are different, but to a certian degree you should never take it if you are going to have to pay to move it! Are you leased to a company or do you have your own authority?

[@EverythingApax]

I have my own authority. Appreciate you giving us some feedback. Thank you

[@porkypig6868]

I love how you tell it like it really is… I miss you and Tim hell everyone out there busting their ass and I now thank all of you for moving that freight so we the people can have things!! Be careful everyone

[@astonkirlew7294]

I have learn a lot from you since subscribing. You give real and correct content . Don’t stop been real

[@EverythingApax]

Thank you! I very much appreciate it!

[@milesjerodfrederick]

Thanks for the up to date honest information

[@EverythingApax]

Absolutely! 🤜🏼🤛🏼

[@willbailey3360]

Good video I agree with everything you said

[@BradyRay_333]

From my experience in other industries, providing consistent quality service wins in the long run. A company's reputation gains in presence with every job that is well done. I would rather be known as reliable than cheap.

[@EverythingApax]

💯 🤜🏼🤛🏼

[@Second_Wind9]

You ought to call the shipper directly and book your freight with them....cut the broker & dispatcher out. Good luck!

[@DanTheManNetwork]

You 100%. People bin working with out cargo insurance to can't afford $900 insurance and van payment

[@fitetransport-eydj6203]

As long as you are contracted for/with someone else then you are voluntarily obligated to them. That’s the expedited norm. I’ve preached this many times; get out there and create your own contacts and contracts. No it’s not easy, but it’s rewarding. You won’t land big corporation contracts, but ‘mom & pop’ companies/factories may surprise you. Safe Travels!!!

[@EverythingApax]

I'm speaking specifically to those operating as a carrier, not owner operators. These are rates from brokers to a carrier. I agree with you that building direct customers is the best option.

[@dennismisovski9932]

So if you go directly to the mom and pops companies, how much would you charge them? Maybe $1.50 -$2.00 a mile, what is a fair amount?

[@Vee-s2m5j]

When I had my Semi truck leased on with a carrier, I came up with a saying " If it dosn't profit me then, I don't turn the key" We are not in Business to make money for those Companies and their Dispatchers while LOSING money!

[@jasonhenza]

I left for a year because rates were so low. Now i have to come back & work for a few months. I'll probably instacart & walmart shop when sitting.

[@BrainFuelNetwork]

Mr Allen, May the load gods keep you rolling and all of the rubber tires continue to make you money. Do you feel that the industry is slowly self destructing? The ethics of some of these carriers are starting to get very scary.

[@11717ghost]

I'm surprised that Circle posted that Ben and his team are typically good on rates; but then again I'm not surprised given the carriers unawareness of what this stuff actually moves for. In addition, Sylectus is going to the gutter due to access sharing. I strongly advise to seek/ research other options ( ie. Full Circle TMS) Stay Safe, Stay Blessed.

[@speedyfinalmile]

They are scamming the drivers. They are mislabeling freight that is a back haul for a tractor trailer and charging the customers big money and paying out nothing.

[@kingofkings5175]

I agree 💯% these brokers aren't, out here like the driver's are while they sit back and get a good size pay out & some of or most of the otr driver's get crumbs. As always good info Mr.Allen ✌️

[@travisgazarian689]

I have 2 Vans and I just started out I have a contract for nightly delivery to Santa Barbara for 400 a night.

[@carlosaguirre1313]

Excelent!!

[@nickleplease]

Brokers are legally obliged to provide a shippers invoice to the carrier, if requested. A carrier recently received a shippers invoice from TQL, through enforcement from FMCSA, at a 54% "commission " from the broker...

[@EverythingApax]

I've been meaning to look into this report. I saw a snippet on Mutha Trucker.

[@BradyRay_333]

I wonder how this will end up affecting things.

[@redline3036]

I hope that load sits man that’s ridiculous holy cow. That’s like doing the load for free

[@EverythingApax]

Exactly what I'm saying! 🤟🏻

[@kerrydills3240]

If someone wanted to get in this business, had to buy all the equipment, what would be your recommendations?

[@edwardkomito7881]

While the brokers have responsibility for the rates they post, I suspect the shipper will never know what the load went for. It may be one of the reasons you see such low rates. In many cases, I've just cut out the "cut rate" brokers.

[@EverythingApax]

Same here.

[@dennismisovski9932]

How to you cut the brokers out? Do u get straight to the customer? Kind of cut all the middleman out

[@edwardkomito7881]

@@dennismisovski9932 Hi Dennis. For me, I just stop doing business with them. After spending a little bit of time in the business you will realize which guys will really try to squeeze you literally for $3 to $5. That happened to me recently. So they are off my list. Also, brokers who dont tell you a load is one you have to assist with and wont pay you for driver assist. Those are a couple of examples. But I think you get the idea.

[@travismartinson1813]

You should base your cost on the federal mileage rate because that's what you deduct on your taxes. A business should make a profit after expenses. You should also be able to pay yourself a salary and still have a profit afterward for the business. If you can't do that, you're not running a business, you are running a non-profit.

[@EverythingApax]

@@travismartinson1813 well said

[@Rogerhubbardjr]

It is about relationships. Not always price. Too many new people bidding low rates. Be flexible on your bids but do not go below $1/mi.

[@EverythingApax]

100%

[@EverythingApax]

100%

[@Chad-wk2pm]

Seems like u could got a load up to Detroit

[@CarlosFlores-kx1vd]

I really appreciate it your honest opinion!! I stuck in Salt Lake City for almost four days because all the loads were under .70 I was so 😡😡😡. Definitely I don’t run for pennies. PLEASE PEOPLE WAKE UP!!!

[@avernvrey7422]

Time to get a new job. The market is telling you that...

[@alanholmes2366]

Wheels have to move. Sitting still for 4 days isn’t going to pay the bills. Move at break even if need be to get out of the area into a more profitable area.

[@miroslawgladczuk765]

That happened to me today. Somebody took a load for like $.62 a mile.

[@EverythingApax]

😡😡😡😡

[@Axel-Live]

good stuff

[@RedRedred-ld4pb]

Don't complain.

[@JuanReyes-sg1ws]

How much would you charge for that Alaska load that you mentioned?

[@EverythingApax]

What Rate Per Mile to go to Alaska!? #cargovan #alaska #trucking

[@mdz6799]

Well everything falls back on the customer at the end and I don't blame others for getting another load for that reason

[@EverythingApax]

I agree and disagree.

[@mdz6799]

@@EverythingApax I tried to work directly with shippers and the one and only answer that I got is that they only work with brokers and don't get me wrong everyone would love to get paid fairly but like you said there's too much bs going on

[@EverythingApax]

@@mdz6799 that is true.

[@davidseifert7372]

​@midedzolota6799 unfortunately that's more of the case. After manufacturers went threw consolidation and forming huge entities, shipping clerks don't have time to properly vet and call multiple carriers to get a rate. Imagine if they had to do that with all shipments. These days you hit a program and enter info then press send. Heh that's progress for you.

[@quintusburks6837]

How should you bid as a local courier up to a 250 mile radius.

[@EverythingApax]

What load sources are you using to find loads/jobs?

[@quintusburks6837]

@@EverythingApax I'm working with a local courier company as an employee but they asked us how much we want for delivers that not part on a route. Example Madison Wisconsin to Chicago dead heading back.

[@dennismisovski9932]

Question…I partnered up with a carrier, they are willing to pay $1 per mile, is that some what fair?

[@EverythingApax]

Yes, that is fair. It's very good working for a carrier, actually.

[@dennismisovski9932]

@@EverythingApax ya that’s what I figured, thanks for replying

[@artofwargu]

@@EverythingApax What company and have they been able to keep you moving? Many promise $1 but then have no work. I dont see how its even possible when most loads are going for 60-80 cents?

[@wkdewok]

My .30¢ a mile looking pretty good.. just a on call driver 8-12 hour$ run$ in company vehicle

[@naturallifestyle5830]

That’s fact 💯

[@EverythingApax]

Absolutely!!

[@SteveAaroe]

The whole world is going to hell in a cut throat game of cheating and lying.

[@OnlyHuman2.0]

Unethical business. Everyone ripping everyone off. It's time to get out. Imngoing back to construction myself when holidays are over.

[@Fatmack28]

Would you ever take anything less then $1 per mile? If so what would be your lowest rate?

[@EverythingApax]

I have. Do you have your own mc and DOT number?

[@Fatmack28]

@@EverythingApax yes sir hit 90 days the end of April

[@travisgazarian689]

I’m in Los Angeles and I have no idea what to bid.

[@EverythingApax]

Are you otr or local?

[@travisgazarian689]

@@EverythingApax I’m local

[@deantait8326]

😢😢😢 okay if it gets you home or out of a dead area … fine but going out? Yikes 20 years ago I always hoped for a Friday pickup and Monday drop off… I once took a LTL load at .25 cents out of LA to S. GA. Our company had nothing out of So Cal but had great loads out of GA. I would have deadheaded a 1,000 miles anyway so if paid for fuel and tire ware. BTW: guessing in today’s world it costs you about 40-50 cents per mile average to operate?

[@EverythingApax]

Yes. 🤟🏻

[@davidseifert7372]

Some even higher, especially when people are buying 70K Sprinters

[@EverythingApax]

@@davidseifert7372 isn't that the truth!?

[@jamespotts2656]

Apex talk about the truth on how much a dispatcher make who work for a company?

[@juntrav9859]

Facts

[@EverythingApax]

🤜🏼🤛🏼

[@armobyzantine5881]

How many vans do you have now ?

[@EverythingApax]

I personally have 4.

[@armobyzantine5881]

@@EverythingApax 4 drivers yes getting big slowly only time

[@johnnydeabreu1907]

Can the government get involved?

[@stevezelen4651]

Did someone take that load for .53?

[@Chad-wk2pm]

Can't give in to the low rates

[@Lilpetty4]

NOT THE 5 DUCE 😂

[@EverythingApax]

They went straight for guts!!

[@Lilpetty4]

@@EverythingApax 😂😂

[@travisgazarian689]

What’s a good rate for a load ?

[@11717ghost]

$1.30 minimum, but there are other factorable things to consider (ie. Weight, Distance, Unit Size. Just to name a few) Of course, regional work pays more and should be considered in bid offers. Hope this helps. Stay Safe, Stay Blessed

[@B4Tunit-mn]

My thought is that all employers have a responsibility to their employees to provide a livable wage. If the parking lot is full of 20 year old junk cars with 2 BMW’s up front, we can tell what their priority is!

[@carlgillespie5161]

I agree in an employer/employee situation, but this is independent contracting. The government, or anyone, frankly, has no business telling someone what to charge for their good or service they are producing. It’s Econ 101 dude, competition among businesses is good.

[@dynamicrainmakers8794]

3900 miles better have some good backhauls... LOL

[@EverythingApax]

I know, right!?

[@jimpantherdrivervickers5439]

Some tractor trailer driver could throw that on the back of their trailer

[@EverythingApax]

The fact they want it direct is crazy!

[@expeditingwithbigd6291]

Big money 🎉😂😂😂😂

[@EverythingApax]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@timmytheimpaler]

I dispute that the broker should ethically price something at or above a given price point, aside from that for which someone will do it. That's how capitalism works. If they can't cover it at a low price, they have to come up until someone does. Does it suck for the driver? Yes, but when capacity is tight, then it sucks for them instead of us. The pendulum swings.

[@EverythingApax]

I understand where you're coming from,and I know the easy opposition to ethics is saying it's capitalism. In business, there are guidelines and laws in place because it isn't simply capitalism free for all. There is responsibility to be taken by all involved.

[@internetpointsbank]

Just don't take the job. Its that easy.

[@EverythingApax]

@@internetpointsbank I agree 1000000%

[@gwb8445]

As you mentioned everyone is trying to maximize their profits. That includes brokers AND drivers. Like it or not Brokers duty is first and foremost to their customers - not to drivers. It's like my momma used to say when I was a kid "sometimes it just be that way." Those who cannot competitively bid and get loads need to consider getting out of the business.

[@avernvrey7422]

10 cents a mile is the new reality. Just accept it... don't like it? Leave the industry. That's what the market is telling you. Too many drivers. Some of you need to quit and do another job that's more in demand.

[@EverythingApax]

How will I survive this!?!? #cargovan #funny #businessideas