5SGTE Beams Engine Development for the ST185 Rally car

[@mr.cangieter8758]

Willy posts a video, I watch and support. 💪🏾

[@hawes_power5590]

Cheers! :)

[@nathanabken2144]

Love the commitment will I cant imagine how heart broken you where when that engine blew. Good to see it back again and hopefully ready to party

[@hawes_power5590]

yeah was pretty gutted!

[@dalesouthern2615]

Poor bloke. I feel your pain.

[@blizardbear]

You never give up... Good on ya!

[@BernardMcSweeney-ol5um]

Willy watching in ireland learn a lot and got me back out competing keep it up sir

[@jdfriar]

Hey Man! Where ya been? Hope everything is good.

[@hawes_power5590]

Hey mate. Yeah everything is good. been doing plenty of racing but not much filming. Both cars are going well. The motivation to make videos has been rather low lately. But Ive actually just purchased a new camera so will get back into it soon

[@niccolusmoses5298]

Perhaps reach out to PSI Racing?

[@clairebear5029]

Do you do any injector cleaning? Might want to invest in an injector cleaning machine and clean every so often. E85 and old gas combo totally gunked up my Injector Dynamic 2000cc injectors and fuel system. I am going to do it as regular maintenance now. I had white yellow hardened gunk. Your dyno might have gained more HP if you did that. I'd even check your FPR diaphragm. I have a high boost 5th gen and its something you might want to look into. I found out by oil analysis and then it got progressively worse. As for the head damage maybe don't rev as high?

[@hawes_power5590]

i wouldnt usually clean the injectors unless there was a problem. the fuel wasnt that old. the fuel we use is pretty much 95 octane with an additive to add octane. this additive is known to desolve after a few months, effectivly making it 95 octane (equivalent to 91 in the USA). what amkes you say the diapram. i log the fuel pressure and it was rock solid... I rev it less than the factory beams engine, i went over the reasons for failure in the video.

[@clairebear5029]

My fuel pressure was good too. Now im overhauling my whole fuel setup due to a cracked FPR diaphragm (e85) residue on it and an injector that I suspect was dripping and got worse over time. Backwards benched cleaned and blew a piece of junk out which I suspect was from not running a 5 micron filter. Just saying if you race it and take it apart you should at least check your fuel system while its apart. I didn't know till I had Blackstone Labs told me in oil analysis.

[@Drunken_Hamster]

With all that complexity and all that was destroyed, I'd have been strongly considering another mid displacement max effort N/A build.

[@hawes_power5590]

like a 2GR?

[@davidellis8434]

What oil pump/sump combo are you using? Im wanting to use the later gen5 oil pump so i can use the crank trigger sensor but heard it wont fit the gen 3 3s sump as the mating sufaces dont match

[@timonthornley2656]

Hi, Who is this "PK" to talk to re. getting some valve springs? Many Thanks,.

[@hawes_power5590]

@@timonthornley2656 He runs Kennelly cams www.kcams.co.nz/engines-by-make/toyota/

[@tabryis]

you walked so others could run🙇‍♂

[@hamishtomlinson2638]

Hey Willy, youre probably busy with life but would like your input if possibly. Im in the process doing and figuring doing 3sge beams from a altezza swap into my 1999 toyota camry, got a 3sge engine that needs the block recondition but the head is still good. And I also have 5sfe complete out of a late 98 camry. I would like to do a 5sge non turbo build with what I got (I understand i need pistons and get the 5s block machine) Im not interested doing a turbo build. What are your thoughts on this is with the money and time do this?

[@hawes_power5590]

you could potentially use the standard 5S pistons ( you will need to check compression ratio and valve clearance) to save money on pistons and machining. use some maxspeeding rods. you will need a custom engine mount solution, custom exhaust, custom loom and a decent ECU to run everything. its alot of work!

[@hamishtomlinson2638]

@hawes_power5590 haha sure is, but the work and effort I'm ready to do. I have gotten altezza 3sge manual engine loom and ecu and plugs to connect to my body loom. I am a fabricator by trade and have made engine mounts before to manual swap my 2mzfe camry wagon. So it doesn't scare me, just haven't done it before 😅 I'll do some more research (to see if there is more information that ive missed) and see what can be done. Cheers

[@timonthornley2656]

What were the turbine AR on the old turbo vs new? Ive been told Ex back pressure is a real issue leading to EX valve float.. looking at a 6758 with a .63 for a 2L auto beams build.

[@hawes_power5590]

they were both the same at .82, but the 7163 has a bigger wheel. I think the 6758 is the perfect turbo for a 2l if you want good response and 450whp. I would go up to a .82 twin scroll housing and use a good set of valve springs.

[@timonthornley2656]

@@hawes_power5590 Thanks, recommendation on who to speak to re. valve springs in NZ? I have a set of the "uprated" Toda springs for the Beams but they don't spec there lbs. Realistically they will be to cover the Toda high lift cams with a raised RPM limit.... but how far will they go on a boosted Beams... well not keen to find out the hard way, (sorry for your loss). Thinking these will be fine on the inlet side and I source something heaver for the EX side. Thanks for ya time.

[@hawes_power5590]

@@timonthornley2656 well i have seen several beams fail on the kelford springs. the first set i used were from kennelly cams. they obviously didnt work but would likely be fine without running anti lag. im now running some custom dual springs which have been good so far but need to put more kays on them. sorry i dont really have a good answer for you

[@timonthornley2656]

@@hawes_power5590 Thanks, who do you recommend I speak too? Where did you source yours?

[@dc_0121]

Can you just bolt on a blacktop head in the 5sfe block and run it with the stock 5s pistons? And what CR would that have?

[@hawes_power5590]

can you bolt on the head...yes will the pistons clear the valves? possibly CR...sorry wouldnt have a clue. It sounds like you probably should just use the blacktop bottom end

[@dc_0121]

@@hawes_power5590 okay thankyou, it would be for an na, so I would like the extra 0.2L. Does the head need any modification? Or can it just be bolted on?

[@ABeans07]

Still in testing with the new knuckle assembly?

[@hawes_power5590]

yep, obviously testing was put on hold for a while. but going good so far

[@theshadowofalepton5178]

were you using the factory titanium valves? I assume they can't take the boost

[@hawes_power5590]

nah i was using the factory steel valves in an auto head

[@chappardababbar]

Are you certain it was the valves and not something else?

[@hawes_power5590]

there were marks on 3 other exhaust valves, so fairly confident

[@trentmeyer23]

Fuck

[@hawes_power5590]

Yeah i did a job of demolishing that engine..

[@dimitrius_tfd8899]

Hey man i have a beams head but im in the us did you get it fixed?

[@hawes_power5590]

did you watch the video...yes i fixed it

[@dimitrius_tfd8899]

@@hawes_power5590 lol yes i saw the head get demolished and i went to the comments and didnt delete this after i was done

[@ItsPainnz]

still out here defying engineering. heres to all the carved out 5s heads. there are better buckets out there, stiff springs im gonna say could be the solution most likely. valve float is an issue in all anti lag cars. hope it goes well, im watching what you do so I can potentially get a 5s reengineered by myself and present it to a bit engine manufacturer maybe get toyota on it

[@Dharbourbc]

Thats alot of damage 😅

[@hawes_power5590]

sure was!

[@kadebugler9]

Just double the hp of mine 😂

[@hawes_power5590]

gotta bump up those rookie numbers haha