6/27/24 WIR - CrossFit Medical Society, 'fitness as medicine', CrossFit Games testing, programming

[@PeterShaw4]

Always fires me up to hear your enthusiasm for the Games, Dave. I have commented something similar in the past - but jumping in on the convo again: I qualified for the Games in 2020 and on a team in 2022 so I can attest to the amount of training that it takes to get there. Certainly conducive to burnout. Toward the end, as I aged, I would consistently take 1 month off completely from training. My last year more. It was less for the body and more for the mind. I didn’t want anything to do with it. Currently following a combination of mainsite, CAP, PRVN, and my own stuff. One workout per day with intensity, just as you described, is the way to sustainably train for the rest of your life (for most people). Heck, many times nowadays I’m only spending 30-40 min max in the garage. If you want to get more bang for your buck, I always encourage people to make changes in the kitchen instead of adding volume to training. Most are blown away with how fit they can get with one workout per day when they follow something like the Zone diet. The second place I tell them to look is the intensity. Can you go 1% harder in your workout? Do that before adding volume and you will reap the benefits. It takes enormous psychological capacity to go harder, compared to simply “walking” through more volume. Have a great day.

[@Dwizzle77]

Excellent comment. great read

[@PeterShaw4]

Thank you.

[@austinfairbanks9142]

I really like what Marcus Filly is doing but also love Crossfit

[@mitchcollins5840]

Dave, your counsel about the risks of Movement is Medicine are spot-on. This is conceptually similar to the issues CF has had fighting off nutritionists.

[@mikebee6530]

Been loving these weekly videos and cant wait to order the EVOO this Friday! Thanks Dave

[@whitneydavis1344]

With keeping the Athletes safety in mind, why did y’all not also make them come down the rope to a certain line before jumping off? Love these every week!! Keep it up and can’t wait for The Games!!!

[@LameUser]

At least they've cut the rope down to avoid ankle/feet injuries.

[@simonuys5277]

Hi Dave. Thanks for the weekly updates, Ireally enjoy your interaction with our community. A few weeks back you challenge Andrew Hiller to make a video with all the positive things he has done for CrossFit. Did you manage to watch his video and what was your impression of it? Also how is your journey with reading the Bible progressing?

[@rxopie64]

It’s funny all the bullshit Dave has to deal with 😂 it’s funny how anything a person will do can be found to be insulting by another human good job Dave on always smiling

[@justrione]

How about this for the first event of the CrossFit Games 1000 burpees for time. I would watch every second. Thank you for all that do for this community.

[@Dwizzle77]

Insanity

[@shannonschleifer8602]

Hang on tight to your abilities. Use it or lose it!

[@shannonschleifer8602]

I was referring to snatches/muscle ups and keeping on doing them. Not box jump standards.

[@iammstarr]

Dave, appreciate your videos and insights each week. That being said, I believe the Crossfit Games should allow Crossfit Games Athletes compete as they see fit. Dump the step down, go back to allowing the rebounds.

[@michellefogarty6055]

I have found the vast improvement with MS symptoms

[@TheMovementDr]

Last week, you made a brief comment on the possibility of changing floor plans and layout at the dickies arena. Anything you can share about that further? Is there a possibility for turf? Give us something Dave.

[@Bern1808]

Hi Dave, Recently, the US Army revised its general physical fitness test, the Army Combat Fitness Test (ACFT 4.0), to establish new "combat readiness" standards with scales based on gender and age. Standards have been modified to promote and reflect what the Army terms 'holistic health domains and inclusivity." Minimum requirements have been made more lenient. Healthy 17-21-year-old males, presumably the physically fittest cohort, can now receive a passing grade by completing a 2-mile run in 22 minutes or less, a three-rep deadlift of 140 lbs, and 10 push-ups over 2 minutes. Requirements are further scaled based on age and gender characteristics. As an elite combat veteran and expert in physical fitness, you are uniquely positioned to evaluate the importance of physical readiness for military combat and the adequacy of the new Army standards. I'm interested in your thoughts. Can I rest easily at night, or should I start learning to speak Chinese? Thanks for all you do and have done, Dave. Your expertise and service are greatly appreciated.

[@HoustonTexas94]

The Army has always scored differently depending on age and gender. They did a test run of about 18 months where they tried to use one score, and then they abandoned the concept. As someone who’s been in for well over a decade and obviously has talked to individuals from all types of backgrounds, the grading system is not a legitimate concern, because for all of recent history in the military age and gender have into scoring. Also the minimum standard is the minimum, no operator, or FORSCOM level combat arms or combat enabler MOS is striving for the minimum.

[@nyaustin21]

Gender and age scaling for the combat readiness test is a change for the Army (from gender and age neutral), along with watering down the requirements and substituting a plank for the apparently too difficult hanging leg tuck. The revised test seems more in line with what should be required to be nursing home ready. Maybe they should change the title of the test to the cannon fodder readiness test.

[@HoustonTexas94]

@@nyaustin21 the tenderness and ageless standards were never set in stone. The standards given are the minimum, a 42A and 25S don’t need the same level of fitness as a 12B/11B/19D or any other combat arms/combat enabler MOS. The minimum is there to ensure individuals can complete basic military tasks. As an engineer, and someone who scores 570-590/600 regularly, there is a culture in the units I’ve been in that anything below 450(or below 240 under the APFT) is unacceptable because it makes you ineffective at your job. I wish everyone had a 1000 lb total and 21 minute 5k with a sub 5 minute Fran time, but it’s just reality that that isn’t required to make a world class fighting force.

[@box59156]

Programming Question: Hey Dave, Enjoy the weekly videos and getting some insights from you directly. Please keep them up.

This is specifically a programming question: It is quite long, so understand if you don’t have chance to read the whole section, but would love to get your thoughts on the question: Do you think the sport has started to bias a certain type of athlete, more specifically bigger/stronger athletes, especially on the female side? - More details: In this day and age a Chris Spealler, James Fitzgerald, in fact any smaller athlete etc would not be competitive at the top level, not because of their conditioning / gymnastic capacity but because they wouldn’t have the size-strength ratio needed to lift the loads that athletes can today. I would say this has occurred because of the style of programming over the years. As an example, every single stage of the CrossFit Games since its existence a barbell has been used, apart from 1 (2017 CrossFit Regionals) in fact already this season 7 of the 13 programmed events have used a barbell. To go one stage deeper, even the coupling of the workouts often favours a bigger athlete. To breakdown this years Semi final workouts:

 Event 1:
Running - however coupled with 50 Clean and Jerks at a medium load barbell. Event 2:
Double Unders and TTB however coupled with 50 heavy Front Squats. Event 3: Legless rope climbs however coupled with Echo bike and High box jumps Event 4: Handstand walking however combined with an erg/machine Event 5: Pure barbell Event 6:

Ring muscle ups, however combined with Echo and heavy DB’s. Therefore each workout had a component that would favour a bigger athlete (Machines / Barbells / Odd objects) and there wasn’t a workout that would purely favour a smaller athlete. Is there a reason specifically for this type of coupling of workouts and do you think that strength is a more important component of fitness based on the history of the programming?

[@box59156]

You almost answered it this week😅, hopefully this week, as would be great to know your thoughts on this.

[@julianiford3792]

This is way too long bro he isn’t going to answer this one.

[@box59156]

@@julianiford3792 hence the quick question at the start: Do you think the sport has started to bias a certain type of athlete, more specifically bigger/stronger athletes, especially on the female side?

[@legacycommunications]

Andrew huberman podcast specks on the antibiotics topic and muscle tears

[@gomezmarian1]

Dave, what are your thoughts about women sports?…. Few people enjoy them, while female Crossfit competitions are as exciting as male comps, sometimes even more. Why do you think that is?

[@sckrmom]

Whoops 6/17/2024 typo 😂😂

[@cfaffiliatecollective]

At the end of last year, Don in an interview stated that PE’s timeline is 3-5 years. We are 4 years into PE owning HQ. As you said in response to my last comment, at some point PE will look to sell it. PE is slashing costs and raising fees at the expense of affiliates. You failed to answer my question “How is PE selling to new PE investors who will also look to extract profits good for affiliates?” P.S. Our actions and the outcome define our legacy. Legacy is not something that can simply be edited after the fact.

[@77DuRock]

This video is brought to you by The CrossFit Medical Society 😂 Dave and us have no idea what they do. Broken Science Initiative for the W.

[@nd3546]

Hey Dave, when you say that you might require judges to have an advanced judges course to judge at the games, do you consider paying them as well (as I understand it, they're not getting payed as of now).

[@tymay3667]

Dave, do you think the legitimacy of the “test” at this year’s CF Games will be lessened compared to previous years due to the majority of the events being held inside of a venue?

[@mapultoid]

I bet he will say yes to this. 🙄

[@cork7304093]

I don’t think the name Fit Insider was total thought out..

[@nicksosa9484]

what’s the goal of crossfit currently? seems as if the goal at this very moment is to make money, and no longer “forging elite fitness”. to me and others this shows crossfit as being broken and not excelling.

[@legacycommunications]

Antibiotics cause muscle tears as well my guess is the athlete who tore his muscle on the box may have been or recently been on antibiotics maybe

[@avera9636]

Dave, I do not think you realize that stepping down from 30" in box is more of a setup for achilles injury than jumping down and landing on two feet from THAT height. You overthought it and came to the wrong conclusion . . . let athletes be athletes. Do not try to slow them down . . . worse, stop implementing a more dangerous movement than what you are trying to prevent.

[@V31lCl0ud]

Wrong

[@MegaJasonmiller]

Meme template incoming: first panel has a woman pointing her finger and screaming “Fit Insider!”, second panel is a mischievous white cat with its ears back saying “fit inside her”

[@F85-w6g]

"advanced judges course(s) " are you kidding me? is this just another quick money grab? however many courses you make these people go through and pay, it is still a human, making subjective decisions. How about you innovate? invest in the sport, work with tech companies using AI to track movement using sensors in the clothing. as long as there is humans "judging" there will always be huge mistakes being made, people will favorite and "help" specific athletes, rules will be forgotten, nerves will get in the way of proper judging, its been an issue since the beginning of crossfit and to this day, it continues to be. instead of investing and innovating, you (dave) and the rest of HQ continue to ignore what the community and competitors keep asking for. be better.

[@PeterShaw4]

There is not a single sport that doesn’t use humans as judges or referees. Even straightforward sports like track and field still have humans judging and tracking performance.

[@V31lCl0ud]

Wrong

[@wthibeau]

Dave, one of your bosses, Annette, made it clear CrossFit has racial quotas in place to ensure diversity. Have you met the racial quotas for the Games Team? What are your thoughts on the reality that CrossFit is now a company that hires people based on the color of a person’s skin?