6.2L Engine Knock Diag - Lets Peek At Pids

[@ewortman95]

I just bought a 2018 F-250 Lariat 6.2l and it's doing this intermittently. I am a heavy truck diesel mechanic and do a lot of my own work. This. Was. Phenomenal. From a mechanic point of view and a concerned owner point of view. Absolutely amazing diag. Thank you!!

[@FordBossMe]

Thanks man I appreciate that

[@aplumber5933]

I've been looking for this fix/ diagnosis for months! I now feel confident enough to go to the dealership with this knowledge, A huge Thank you!

[@Humblescape]

I can barely turn a wrench but I do thoroughly enjoy your content. It’s given me more appreciation and understanding with my mechanic co workers.

[@FordBossMe]

Tyvm

[@TheBandit7613]

If you are considering a diesel and don't really need one, you will be perfectly happy with the new 7.3. A nice low tech big block, cam in block with pushrods, and is a beast.

[@OSUCharger]

6.2 Boss does the job just fine as well.

[@chriskatz1152]

I had the 7.3 pushed heavy snow without even stepping on the gas..........

[@gregmacklem]

Saved to my F250 playlist just in case this ever happens to me. So far, love my 6.2l v8. Very smooth, easy revving and plenty of power for what I do.

[@FordBossMe]

The 6.2L is very nice

[@bassinwithbuck4955]

I said this once before and I'll say it again. You are the type of guy you want working on your stuff. An awesome video as always and a true master of your trade. Thanks for sharing. I've got a 40+ Toyota Master Tech who's worked on all of my Toyota pick ups who I feel the same way about.

[@alfonsobilly9745]

Incredible!! I just preformed that procedure !! One of the lead techs were impressed with the knowledge.

[@FordBossMe]

Nice work!

[@FordBossMe]

Subscribe to the channel stick around and you're going to get a lot more

[@ecaparts]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge! I actually have heard of this happening, but damn that sounded like a bad timing or intake issue. It would be interesting for a follow up of the failure…

[@GaryParks]

Must resist the kock joke. (Typo in title) Wow, thanks for showing us that. Not a Ford guy but something to think about since so many cars have intakes with long and short path diverters. Never would have thought an intake could sound like that.

[@MrXyzasdf]

@2:26 - that's what I like to see, a Veteran mentoring those young guns. The information you are dispensing will help keep them alive or successful so to speak!

[@ctaylor331]

Brilliant! Fellow ford tech here and you just helped me diagnose one in the shop today! Thank u!…. SUBSCRIBED!

[@FordBossMe]

Thanks for the sub!

[@Jay388]

Another awesome job brother! Man Ford should be paying you to do some diagnostic seminars. 😎👍👍

[@Dead-Goldstar]

Thanks for the information it’s good to see someone that knows how to read a scanner and know what and how to diagnose an issue.

[@stevemorrison3456]

Good show!!!! Just diagnosed exact same condition! THANK YOU!!!!!!!

[@capitenjimmy]

Thank you man.. you saved me an engine ...i hate when some pple wanna be smart and mention is on service bulletin'' but if you don't post it in here so pple can figure it out ..that service bulletin mean nothing ....but thank you for taking the time and explaying to us ..so we don't get ripped off from those crooked mechanics

[@mattlenz8554]

You should be a instructor for Ford. You possess a lot of knowledge that probably would benefit a lot of younger techs. Good work

[@JimmyMakingitwork]

Service bulletin. Not to take anything away from my dude, just sayin. :)

[@FordBossMe]

So when I first learned this there was no service bulletin I actually learned it from another senior diesel tech

[@FordBossMe]

And this is the second time that you posted this now so I don't know what your agenda is you posted it on the main chat and then turned around and posted it here again so regardless if you think you're taking anything away from me or not kind of seems that you are

[@FordBossMe]

When you have to remind somebody multiple times that there's a service bulletin out it doesn't mean that I tracked it down by using a service bulletin because that's not how I tracked it down

[@mattlenz8554]

Good stuff man learned a lot from you guys here on the tube 👍.

[@Bushy556]

Ford should come up with a more high level title for techs as yourself. Instead of Ford “master tech” have a Ford Regional lead tech. Have higher pay as well. Could really do better helping the reputation of the dealer and Ford.

[@FordBossMe]

I wish lol that would be sweet

[@jacobg1488]

I believe they are called Ford field service engineers.

[@matthewsteadman5740]

@@FordBossMe you know you computer work that for sure

[@jasonmurdoch9936]

You ain't lying

[@the_catfish_junkie8500]

​@FordBossMe really enjoy your content. I have a 2015 2.7 f150 that started a clunking noise just yesterday. Last thing I want to do is take it to someone that just starts guessing what is wrong with it. I dont have the time or money for that! I have a video of the sound it is making. Would you be willing to give it a listen to see what you think?

[@alexandersmith2441]

Saved! Great work my Man!

[@patriotarmament7407]

I just bought a Raptor with a 6.2L in it. I’ll keep this in mind if I ever hear a knock. 👍🏼🇺🇸

[@randysmith8604]

I have a f250 6.2. Only 70k and mine is bad. Plus my coil packs went bad also. The coil packs are normal to go bad. Now to decide if I have the new manifold installed or just get rid of the truck.

[@kevinjohnson1920]

This just happened to me it was taken into Ford and they told me I need a new engine and I totally disagreed with the diagnosis after looking at this and reading several of them thank you so much

[@FordBossMe]

So what I want you to do is I want you to unplug the actuator there's a connector on the passenger side on the side of the intake manifold that goes back there to the intake manifold Runner control and if you take the vacuum away from it or you unplug the connector and the tap stops you indeed found your problem and if you want me to do a video chat with you while you check it yourself I can walk you through it [e-mail]

[@kevinjohnson1920]

Yes I would like that...picking up my truck tuesday.Thank you very much

[@TheWookie_USN]

How did it work out. I just posted about a cherry 17 F350 that seems to have this issue and the selling dealership doesn’t even want to acknowledge it.

[@jamesplotkin4674]

There's no substitute for experience!

[@franksgarage8551]

Just went to give a truck a listen. Same noise and a miss. I dont like throwing parts at a problem. So i will do my due dilligence. Thanks for the tip.

[@rockyourworld5374]

It is crazy you know! I mean, as technician to just decide a car needs a new engine because it ticks. That in of itself negates the purpose of being a technician. They may as well just be a blind smart a$$ or flip a coin. Not waste time qualifing and other peoples money and muckin with peoples lives and be done with it. The main reason I became an auto tech was because a thorough diagnosis that proves a fault is half the fun of the job, then the other half is a complete pain in the a$$.🤣 Appreciate you doin it right Rich! 🙂👍

[@banditdumpstersolutionsllc7949]

You just saved me a few grand! Thank you so much for this video!

[@FordBossMe]

Glad I could help!

[@Pitcrw6]

That's some good troubleshooting skills you got. Great job. It's hard to find someone with those skills.

[@jeremiahwallingford4924]

Holy crap! This is exactly what I had come in for used car we got in I noticed the noise and thought it was really unusual for a 6.2 to be this loud and it would slowly take forever to go away. I was about to say sounds like something valve train wise but wanted to do some more research before calling it. Definitely learn something new

[@FordBossMe]

Beautiful

[@TonicofSonic]

For the cost of those systems you would think they would have the ability to go through a systems check where the computer would have this procedure programmed in as a knock condition checklist.

[@FixIt1975]

Thank you. Didn't see this yesterday. Maybe our buyers can find a "knocking" 6.2 Ford and get it cheap. Most of the Fords we sell retail are SUVs and trucks

[@howardriggins4010]

Will you be doing the work? If so can you show what on the intake failed? Anyway nice diagnosis.

[@factionfx]

I think you may be the only real mechanic left in the world.

[@FordBossMe]

Thank You

[@bobbyb9718]

That is incredibly cool. I wish you worked at my local Ford dealership.

[@bigtsperspective5831]

I’m flapping clueless, but fully understand the diagnostic problems with modern techs an automotive

[@laxbeach2381]

Just think about Scotty. He’d say the engine is toast, tell people not to buy it, etc.

[@TurnThemWheels]

Proper Diagnosing is very important, too many people use the parts cannon method

[@sfcjones2590]

Now this is what a tech should do!!!

[@genemulcahey9309]

I am diagnosing same thing, same noise, except it does not change when toggling the imrc on or off. Its definitely coming from the intake. Former SMT.

[@FordBossMe]

Then maybe you have a bad solenoid and you'll have to pull the vacuum line off of the vacuum solenoid and apply vacuum manually or take it away manually

[@stephengass6067]

Wow that is awesome diagnoses I have a 2019 f250 good thing to watch for.

[@fixitdanner]

Great information, thanks for your knowledge!

[@FrostyOsrs]

Senior master Ford tech here. I just had a 2017 6.2 today that came in running rough with p0300. Immediately thought valve spring, but it just wasn't loud enough. Grabbed my stethoscope and found noise coming from imrc. Sure as shit, unplugged imrc controllers on both sides and noise went away. Ordered up an intake and went home 👍

[@FordBossMe]

Freaking Beautiful

[@sebastienquanngagnon6358]

Disconnecting the wires will do the same thing as using the program?Got a 2015 with this problem I believe.

[@funpolice007]

do you mean the vacuum solenoids? just wondering

[@mrcleanisblack8889]

Gonna memory hole this and keep my eyes open for a cheap truck with a "bad" 6.2L

[@user-ln7of9gs4s]

Awesome! First video on the 6.2 like this that I've seen. Is there any way a person without IDS can check this? *update* I’m not rewatching the video, but Rich was kind enough to go over it again. There is another way, listed below.

[@FordBossMe]

I'm a little confused because I did give you a second option in the video and there's a vacuum solenoid on top of the intake manifold if you unplug the vacuum from it that goes to the intake manifold Runners you can do the same thing as well

[@user-ln7of9gs4s]

@@FordBossMe thanks. Rich you have to understand, when you talk people listen but don’t always understand. Myself, I have ADHD, I can’t even get directions verbally, unless I’m familiar with an area. It just won’t process, I won’t remember or understand. Some things slip through. If you said something about a vacuum solenoid, I never heard. If I did hear it, I would have automatically thought we were still talking about doing it through IDS because it wouldn’t process in my head.

[@FordBossMe]

@@user-ln7of9gs4s no I mentioned about a separate program that you can get at home and run it on your own computer with a data link connector and you can actually run your own computer testing and do the same thing that I did with the product called forscan

[@user-ln7of9gs4s]

@@FordBossMe I missed that too. Thanks for sharing. I know you get annoyed some times, but not everyone is trying to do that on purpose. Awesome channel, love the videos.

[@richardlarkin4978]

Great video. Thanks for the info. This is happening on my 2017 F250. Do I need to replace the intake manifold or just the IMRC?

[@TurnThemWheels]

Throw some marvel mystery mix in that mug 😂

[@mikecont9742]

Wow. Bad intake.Great diagnostic video.

[@joefargo2162]

I had it I replaced all the igniters it got real bad then it cleared out after a couple hundred miles 140k on a 2019 don't know why it went away but wen you replace those igniters runs like a SAA beautiful powerful and then a month later or so the tick just went away people at the boat ramp wen I launched my boat would say man that lifter sounds terrible in your truck..

[@jamesmooney5348]

Very helpful, thanks!

[@mdutchy2582]

lol I wonder how many perfectly good 6.2 are laying in scrap somewhere.

[@FordBossMe]

Lots

[@jonmccormick8683]

Buy em cheap and stack them deep. -Thanks Scotty.

[@MWilk098]

@@FordBossMe You think Ford isn't remanning these? I just bought one. The money is there.

[@FordBossMe]

@@MWilk098 we talking non warranty independent diagnosed

[@MWilk098]

@@FordBossMeYes sir. They charge that core straight to us, you're out thousands if you don't send it in.

[@troublemakingpups5787]

Amazing...blew my mind!

[@joepolignone9766]

Does the manifold itself have to be replaced or just The gasket

[@taquitovargas]

Thank you for making vids like this 👍

[@andrewjacobson556]

Good job man!!👍👍👍

[@davidbeers5949]

My wife's 2020 edge with a 2.0 in it had a intake runner noise until they did some updates on it. It's runner was really flapping around then once they did some software updates it quit doing it.

[@josephpuchel6497]

Hey Ford Boss I know some dealerships are shoddy don’t pay the new techs that have excellent mechanics skills. This is how the dealership runs their service department. Thanks for the information. I need a new truck and looking to get 6.2 with 6 speed in a F250 crewcab

[@FordBossMe]

Very true

[@leeholleyjr1490]

What’s the fix if ford doesn’t have any intake manifold my 2017 is doing the same thing

[@mikejacob3536]

Sounds like a 1956 Singer sewing machine...

[@caitlynnconrad6481]

I need to know if anyone had this happen with there scan tool saying there’s a misfire. I have had all spark plugs replaced and coil packs also cracked exhaust manifold what he sad about shops saying internal issues I believes them at first but I want to go through the external parts that can cause a misfire first. Thanks for the extra help it’s needed.

[@Shorthaul-overhaul]

I have a regular F-150 with a 6.2 L in it mine's doing the exact same thing will it work just fine if I don't replace it for a while? Noise goes away after it warms up

[@nickdiesel8018]

New to you channel. more videos or the 6.2s and 6.7s when you can thanks for the great video

[@westwasbest]

I looked at a 2017 SD 250 today that had this exact noise and tried to explain to the independent dealer the issue, he indicated it was a so-called $50 part that he's unable to get, seeing your video you mentioned that the intake plenum itself has to be replaced, is that still the case? And do you have a part number for this improved plenum and what do I need to go back and disconnect to verify that it is indeed this issue causing the problem since the vehicle is parked in his lot and my tools and scanners will be limited, thank you so much you're a very smart guy

[@oldman-zr2ru]

My 2014 F 250 has a slight knock that sounds like a valve noise but it goes away after the engine warms up, 67,000 miles now but it's done it most of it's life. It also has a bad fan clutch from new but the dealer refused to replace it because they couldn't duplicate it but it doesn't bother me too much.

[@FordBossMe]

I mean these 6.2 L engines did have valve spring problems where the valve springs would crack that's what they were known for every once in awhile

[@eli709]

Youre a god my guy!

[@PeeterPuncher]

Been trying to diagnose a intermittent knocking on a 2012 6.2 F150 that sounds similar to that but there is no IMRC on 2012's. It runs like it has a miss, has a code for cylinder #2 misfire but the knocking seems to be coming from the left bank and only happens after driving for a while.....it goes away after shutting it off and restarting it. The owner replaced the spark plugs and intake manifold. I verified there are no broken valve springs.

[@donschaefer9442]

Cam sensor. Or VVT solenoid. Most likely the cam or crank sensor. But it’s obviously hard to say without seeing the truck.

[@PeeterPuncher]

@@donschaefer9442 both VVT solenoids follow commanded positons. Stethoscoped the solenoids and the noise is not coming from them. Also, unplugging the VVT solenoids when the knocking is present does not change the noise so I do not think it is timing component related. Whats weird is the knocking doesn't continue after shutting it off and restarting it.

[@donschaefer9442]

@@PeeterPuncher That sounds like phasers to me. I had a 5.4 f150 that would do that after driving an hour or more.

[@donschaefer9442]

@@PeeterPuncher If the previous owner replaced the manifold I guess it could be a vacuum leak. Like I said it’s hard to say without seeing the truck

[@PeeterPuncher]

@@donschaefer9442 right, I suppose it could be. Thanks for your input.

[@chriskatz1152]

All i see are hearts and repeating questions unanswered. My question is should we stay away from a 6.2 ticker? Even if its a great deal? As we all know good prices on trucks are hard to find. I found a great one, but heard a tap after poping the the hood? Help would be appreciated so i dont lose a possibly great truck, for good $$

[@funpolice007]

You do not indicate what years this applies to.. I have a 2015 F250 SuperDuty , checked the ford wiring diagrams, does not have IMRC vacum solenoid therefor does not have IMRC but i am chasing an engine knocking . pulled off drivers valve cover today to check valve springs, so far looks ok.timing chain looks ok . will check passenger side tommorrow no check engine no codes runs fine just the noise... it would be nice to show where the solenoid is at ,as well as imrc diaghram so to use a vacuum pump to open and close imrc for those without a laptop like yours

[@FordBossMe]

Well that should tell you that it's obviously not yours, it is the years with imrc

[@FordBossMe]

It seems as if you can't teach people in here about the repair they almost want you to come do it for them as well lol Be appreciative for what you are getting, I feel it would he nice if I didn't always have people asking for more and more of me but they feel they are entitled to that and offer no further $$$$ just come by take your time and never return until they are ready to use you again

[@JohnDoe-fk5fr]

I saw a video where a guy pulled a wire from the intake manifold and diagnosed it that way. Same thing happened, pulled the wire and tick stopped. Plugged the wire back in and it started ticking again.

[@FordBossMe]

Brother that was me that taught these guys how to do that by unplugging the connector that goes to the vacuum solenoid that feeds the imrc and if you look through the comments you can even see I've told other people to do the same thing it's on that top side of the intake manifold on the passenger side if you just unplug the connector and it stops and then you've diagnosed it but I'm the one that has showed these guys how to do that

[@oldbiker9739]

well thanks that's , good to know in case my 2015 Mustang GT 5.0 makes silly noises

[@atribecalledcookies4]

Nice man , Nice!!!!!

[@jamiewreyford3958]

Thanks so much for this!

[@MWilk098]

How common is this? Every one we've ever seen with a similar noise had bad lifters and rocker arms. Only one got an engine, as the valve spring was in 4 pieces and the piston met the valve hard. Should we not be putting rocker arms on these that are a caught early?

[@FordBossMe]

Just try this first and see if your sound goes away and if it doesn't you know you have to look else where

[@roxanneabbott8424]

Wow interesting!

[@johncheer9164]

Thank you!!!

[@TommyG11814]

That was awesome diag, well done. Hope Ford techs are watching.

[@luisuribe5432]

Wow and i thought it was lifter tick

[@Orionszion]

What are the runners for then? Why blocked coolant jets? Where else do those lines go? But then you'd have too much air for the fuel, but the vacuum is meant to produce the power the electrical is for other stuff. Can you run the motor backwards... Data's all messed up look yourself... I have a 2000 s10 with odd parts and a backwards running crankshaft I have to send out...

[@FordBossMe]

Yeah I'm lost

[@shook0002]

Wow! First thing I said was follower or valve. Boy was I wrong.

[@jimkelley-q4n]

Hey there, I also have this issue and am waiting on an intake manifold to come available..Is there any damage that i can do by driving the vehicle? And also why would tick louder when i first start up the truck...Thanks in advance ...

[@brucestover4370]

Mine is just starting to do it at 84,000 miles especially since it has got cold

[@alb12345672]

How is the IMRC driven? Vac? Cable?

[@FordBossMe]

Vac

[@cotymahar34]

What code does it give

[@BigDawgPlumber]

Hey so im getting a p0300 code fords telling me that they checked all the spark plugs and coils and the fuel system and they keep deleting the code and it keeps coming back as a misfire when i start my truck the check engine holds still its a 2017 f250 6.2

[@FordBossMe]

Where are you located

[@BigDawgPlumber]

@@FordBossMe Chicago

[@jamesphillips9272]

2017 f150 5.0 same thing

[@Backswell]

Hello, thank you for posting this video. I am looking at a 2014 with 67k, is there a more reputable valve spring to put in there that is less likely to break? Do you believe that would be worth doing opposed to risking destroying the engine block with a severe failure? Is it worth buying this truck

[@FordBossMe]

I don't know what to tell you financially on what you should be doing I just know they're good trucks

[@NormEZ]

Damn engine kocks... is knocking better 😉

[@wrenchking9628]

Thanks for the tips. Is that FJDS?

[@FordBossMe]

Ids

[@westtexasdave2140]

Does the tick go away when you push the gas?

[@FordBossMe]

It can but yes and no

[@Dead-Goldstar]

Are you going to do a video on replacing the intake manifold on this Ford F250

[@FordBossMe]

No this job ended up going to another dealership because this guy was only in town and the other one we did was done by another technician

[@jordanstaal01-107]

My truck is doing the same thing. Are you saying the runner control valve needs replaced or the intake manifold? If it’s the manifold, do you happen to know what in the manifold causes the tick?

[@FordBossMe]

Intake Manifold

[@davidfrank2824]

Do you happen to have a link that you are using with your laptop. Don't want I picked up has never really worked at all. I also tried the Bluetooth one and since my laptop does not have Bluetooth I bought a adapter. And I was never able to get the Bluetooth to sync with my computer. As always I made sure to give you a big old thumbs up and of course I'm already subscribed to your channel. Look forward to watching more videos.

[@FordBossMe]

This program cost like $900 a year to run

[@davidfrank2824]

@@FordBossMe thank you for your time to respond to my question. I hope you have a great weekend. Also I am looking forward to watching more of your videos. Everytime I think I seen all of them one like this pops up and I never seen it before.

[@JoseFlores-zp9hb]

Hello great video. Is this common with the 6.2L engine??

[@FordBossMe]

Yes

[@michaelr.7054]

Since there are no intakes available now, I figure we can disconnect for now, put a new intake on order. Where is the dis-connect ?

[@FordBossMe]

I'm kind of frustrated explaining this because I do my best to show you guys everything about these and people still ask me the questions even though I have the answers and I have given the answers There is a vacuum solenoid on the passenger side of the engine just above the valve cover and there's a connector that goes to it and you can see the vacuum lines that go off of the back of that solenoid back to your intake manifold Runner control vacuum boxes unplug the solenoid it deactivates the runner

[@michaelr.7054]

@Ford Boss Me AWESOME !, going to be doing my sons truck.then taking it to a tuner.Was thinking we would have to lock it out like the 5.0 motor.

[@anthonyhenryzuchowskijr.9333]

Can u show us the inside of the broken manifold. What inside did make noise

[@FordBossMe]

No there's no way for me to do that unless I'm working on it I can't just make one appear

[@jakethesnake4971]

These are good engines usually right? Hopefully because I have two of them lol

[@FordBossMe]

Most certainly

[@mymillenia2001]

My charger is making that sound and as soon as I tap the gas the sound goes away

[@lawnkats2498]

Great thanks for the video save me an engine

[@turner4tim430]

Where is the valve to unplug it. I'm in my 2011 f250 bay and can't find it. Is it UNDER the intake or...?

[@FordBossMe]

Earlier models you won't be able to find that I think you didn't get to intake manifold Runners until 2015 or 2016 so you won't have that on your vehicle

[@Dirtyharry70585]

Forscan is what I use to change code on my explorers. F150 2019 in for third tsb 3.5tt phaser diesel at start and trannie banging. Want them to turn off the trannie learn mode …what a crap fest

[@davycrockett6378]

Yea mine does the same thing. I kept thinking it was a stuck lifter cause it was shallow and light. So is Ford aware of this crap, why is there not a recall on it.

[@FordBossMe]

There's only recalls when enough people complain about it so if there's no recall which there's not it typically means enough people have not complained about it or experience the problem

[@davycrockett6378]

@@FordBossMe I see.... well when you have Ford tech's and service managers telling them its normal I guess you get what you get. I swear, we didn't have all this stuff in my day. Generator to recharge the battery, coil to get fire and points to distribute it. Nowdays, you have to have the computer to even begin to diagnose anything. I miss those times where you could walk up to the car and listen to it and tell what what was wrong right away.

[@kdc3345]

Anyone know what that rattle is that starts at about 0:16? It's not the knock, but the higher pitched rattle in the background. My 6.2 makes that noise fairly consistently and it doesn't seem normal. I've only had it about 6 months and am not familiar with these engines.

[@FordBossMe]

I'm unsure

[@hondacr14]

My truck does the same and I confirmed it's the electric part of the clutch on the cooling fan. I've heard it on many trucks since noticing it on mine, but that many are much quieter. I can't stand it. But I'm worried that replacing the fan won't help if it's so common.

[@mikebriseno2932]

I’m having same noise from my truck, what is the part # for the intake manifold, also with this issue cause other engine problems

[@FordBossMe]

That's not really going to cause any issues to hurt anything you might get a little stumble or hesitation from time to time and I don't have the part number right now I'll have to look it up tomorrow if you remind me but we've been having trouble getting these because everything's on backorder or people want a hundred and fifty to $200 more even though the dealers

[@Shelby-qk9st]

What actually happens to the intake that it needs to be replaced?

[@FordBossMe]

The butterfly cracks or wares out or loosens or wares

[@mrmhawkins]

How can I check to see if this is the issue if I don’t have the software you are using? My 2020 6.2 is doing the same thing?

[@FordBossMe]

I explained that in the video, on the passenger side of the intake manifold there's a solenoid there unplug the connector going to it up top it's the vacuum solenoid for the intake manifold Runner valves with the engine running you will hear the vehicle stop knocking or tapping if it's the intake manifold