6.5 140gr Speer Gold Dot Review in 6.5-284 Norma

[@denisleblanc4506]

For such a close range shot I didn't think it was bad performance. Velocity is good considering the temperature too. Good load, specially for longer ranges.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Agreed 👍

[@benjaminbrown1179]

At 15-20 yards it did great. At 100-250 works great in creed and prc smashed a bear at 450

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Sweet man. Hope you got a good rug!

[@benjaminbrown1179]

@@AlaskanBallistics it will be when it's done. No lace or fancy, just open mouth painted up nicely.

[@YellowHammer26]

Just found your video, I for one did not get a notification. I think that round would definitely be good on deer size game. Thanks for your videos and I hope you're having a great day 👍👍.

[@jamespugh]

Gold dot rifle bullet pretty good from what iv seen. Jrb reloading tank deer with their 6.5mm bullets in his 6.5 grendal. Also test 300blk gold dots and .22cal in gel. The 300blk lack good expashion for what call a expandable 150gr . He also test the 300blk bullet in 300win mag and drastically help it expand. 😅 . As 22 cal gold dots test them in 22250

[@DanielBoone337]

The 120gr is my go to bullet for hog and deer hunting out of my 6.5 Grendel... I've shot water jugs out to 300 yards with muzzle velocity of just over 2500fps and still got pretty good expansion. But I agree this wouldn't be my bullet of choice for Alaska but neither would anything else in 6.5mm.... Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Which 120gr? I've got a video coming with 120gr TTSX

[@Maddog2047]

Good Video. Can you explain why the 6.5MM when the 270 Cal is so good? You even stated in vid that the 6.5x284 norma performance was not as good as the 270 on the add-on scale. The 270 is a flat shooter with hard-hitting bullets that can be loaded with the same weight bullets.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Check out my ".270 is obsolete video" I've got all the reasons in there.

[@paulscountry456]

2874 looks good in the Bleedmoore, good energy advantage over Needmoore.Looks like it Kicksmoore.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

You're a poetmore

[@sugargoldy]

Good video Chuck I'm glad you finally did it how would you compare that bullet to a 140 grain Nosler partition thank you and God bless

[@AlaskanBallistics]

I bet the partition will penetrate a little deeper

[@inupik23]

Yep, I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a caribou with that bullet, especially out of a Creedmoor/260rem. I was supposed to get these to you at some point, then I got busy. I apologize for that. I'm super glad somebody did though. Good stuff.

[@DavidGomezRgr3_75]

Would you recommend the norma over the needmore¿ The norma seems like a cool cartridge with good history behind it. I value your opinion my brother, thank you

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Yes and no. If you're going to shoot a lot, get a creedmoor. If you want to hunt with it, the 6.5x284 Norma is the way to go... except that there's way more factory ammo for 6.5prc and you can get a little more power loading 6.5prc. All three are good cartridges.

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Good stuff. Good perspective. Thank you sir. Appreciate the demonstration. Very helpful.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thank you for watching

[@carterthiessen2664]

Do you think these are the exact same bullets as the federal fusion loaded ammo? Federal owns speer so it could be. They do look similar and the performance seems similar. On another note, I can't get my hands on the gold dot but I have some 140gr hot cores I'm loading for my dads new creedmoor. He's getting up in age and his old 30-06 kicks him pretty hard, and isn't necessary for whitetail. I think I should be able to get them up to 2750 or so fps.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

I've been told they're not the same bullet. But yes they're similar.

[@cw2a]

Hope that knee heals up fast for ya Chuck. Been there done that.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

It's been better the last few weeks

[@texpatriot8462]

I am curious about your choice of tie 6.5x284 cartridge in Alaska. I would assume cases for unique cartridges like that would’ve extremely difficult/expensive to obtain up there. In your opinion, do Alaskans tend to stick to common cartridges vs what a lower 48 shooter might?

[@AlaskanBallistics]

In general yes. But 6.5x284 is popular with sheep hunters

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Also I can find brass when I can't find 6.5 creedmoor brass lol

[@texpatriot8462]

@@AlaskanBallistics thanks for the response. I am always interested in how Alaskans live.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thank you for the question.

[@Rushshooting67913]

I recently just picked up some gold dots in 120gr. Any experience with those in 6.5x284.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

No sir.

[@aaronwilcox6417]

Not bad JuJu there Chuck. Actually did pretty decent. Put a little range on it and it would be fine. I've never used those Gold Dots in a rifle before but I bought a bunch of the Hot Core for 270cal. If you want to demo some of those I'd send you some.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Sure! I've loaded some hot cor in .338

[@littlebear1520]

That's 65 Norma has to be pretty close to a 65 Swede or is it just on a 30-06 casing

[@AlaskanBallistics]

So in factory loads, the 6.5x284 Norma beats 6.5 creedmoor which also beats the swede. Now i know with a modern rifle the 6.5x55 swede can be loaded much hotter and yes it should be about equal to the 6.5x284 Norma. The 6.5x284 Norma uses the old .284 Winchester cases!

[@frankbrowning328]

At 15 yards that is truly impressive! That will make a tremendous whitetail bullet. It should be a little better than the 270 WIN with the same bullet type and weight for wind drift and drop. I would guess the recoil is similar as well.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Yeah recoil is slightly lighter

[@frankbrowning328]

@@AlaskanBallistics The 6.5X284 is such an efficient cartridge without as much blast and recoil as the 264 WIN Mag or the 6.5 Nosler. Also the 6.5 Nosler (Good as it is) will devour both powder, and if shot in quick succession, barrels too.

[@jw-sigp2258]

That would be an amazing load for deer. I’ll bet it would still open up even at 300 yards. I’d kill a big Pennsylvania whitetail with it. Nice work and nice video.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thank you brother

[@jamespugh]

Nice brother. Fellow pa brother here

[@jw-sigp2258]

@@jamespugh Are you already planning ahead for this years PA deer season? I’m going to use my husqvarna Mauser in 30-06 with 180 grain nosler partition handloads this year. I usually start making considerations as to what rifle I’ll use by April lol.

[@jamespugh]

@@jw-sigp2258 yea brother loading up some nosler 95gr balistic Silvertips for 243 win. Got factory ammo but see get reloads better with less fireballs out short rifle loading with stayball 6.5. Need run to range in test still . Should have video sooner then later on my channel of them. Also loading 300blk just if pa finly let's us use ar15 for deer. . Stupid game commission it was pass let us use them . We use for coyote or fox theo. Like change up broad-head on crossbow before fall and test some see get that old horton summit.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Defenitly belive was good velocity for the tempature you had pretty accurate round other then weight loss

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Bet the weight loss would be better at longer distances. If this is what my rifle shoots accurately, then I'd definitely use it up to caribou

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

@@AlaskanBallistics good point

[@duke8152]

Get some distance, and shoot some ballistic gel. That bullet will perform, I wouldn’t have a issue using them on a moose, or elk. Same bullet as the Fusion. It’s a good bonded bullet, and a decent price for them. I’ve taken several animals with them, never had a recover on the bullets. All were DRT! If your rifle likes them give them a try, grab Federal Fusion, if your not a reloader. The animals I took, were all with the 270 win. using this bullet. Most had quarter sized exit, or slightly larger. Using my 6.5x284,I anticipate longer shots, thus I use a different bullet.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Yeah Ballistics gel and winter is a bad idea. But I'm sure it's better. It's actually not the same bullet as fusion according to federal. But they are real similar. I've got many videos of FUSION on the channel. Plan on filming the .270 this summer. Godspeed and good hunting.

[@duke8152]

@@AlaskanBallistics The difference in the bullet construction, is in the lead metallurgy. Federal, and Speer, are owned by the same company. Comparing the two would be like, Comparing a Ford Mustang GT, to a LX model from the 80’s. Both the same, except the GT had the aero package.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Pretty good consistency on speed

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Not terrible not what I'd like for handloads

[@jonbobskunkworks]

Wonder what it would in a 6.5-300 weatherby

[@AlaskanBallistics]

If i can ever get through these medical bills, I'll buy one. You might have to send me brass though

[@jonbobskunkworks]

I feel your pain! I have a needsmoor and a prc and weatherby. Honestly not impressed with the needsmoor. The prc is fun. Anymore I carry a 338-378 most of the time. Next purchase will be a 280ai.

[@tylarhaugan7908]

I bought some of these when they were 30 cents. Gave my coworker some 140s he took a bull elk at 75 yards he sholder shot it. He dropped it in its tracks then shot a deer with them sholder shot it ran 50 yards. On elk it blew threw the left shoulder and was on hide poking threw on other side. I gave him 1000

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Sweet. Got any more to give lol?

[@tylarhaugan7908]

@@AlaskanBallistics sadly gave all of them away kinds wish i kept 2k if them since my brothers 20 inch proof research gas gun. In 6.5 creedmoor is running, would have made for killer deer round elk in a pinch

[@gorillahd9247]

Although it lost a lot of mass, I bet it would pretty much drop a caribou in its tracks with a broadside shot.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Agreed... better at longer distances too

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Very cool

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thank you

[@davidneal6920]

Good expansion for small to medium game. Be ok for red deer too. I’d be happy to nail a red deer with that bullet. I assume at longer ranges the weight retention would be much better. Thanks for your great work Chuck. God Bless

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Agreed. Thanks David

[@davidneal6920]

@@AlaskanBallistics I have generally been lucky with my hunting projectiles and hunting calibres. I used to have a theory that if you throw a big enough piece of copper/ lead at a deer 🦌 it would go down. These days I feel better with projectiles that err on the side of penetration and controlled expansion. I still like to hunt with a fairly large calibre though.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

I don't blame you there!

[@bneaclab1]

At around 2800 impact that was pretty good.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Yeah it'll work for sure

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Sweet scale I been looking for a good scale

[@AlaskanBallistics]

I don't recommend this one

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

@@AlaskanBallistics is it inaccurate

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Hmmm just a pain to change powders and keep zeroed

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

@@AlaskanBallistics aww

[@AlaskanBallistics]

There's a good scale on my MeWe page from Creedmoor Sports

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Not bad on grouping at all

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thank you sir.

[@alaskagirl92]

Fun!

[@AlaskanBallistics]

You're fun baby

[@LarryLewis-km4rk]

Thought a 6.5 was a .264 so I’m confused about the .284

[@AlaskanBallistics]

The name of the cartidge is the 6.5x284 Norma. Wildcatters took the .284 Winchester case and put a 6.5mm bullet in it. Norma standardized it

[@mot0rhe4d40]

Bet it would have retained better weight with some distance from target

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Yep. Definitely. But it was also really cold and the cameras were dying! Didn't want to take the time to move things around

[@brsmith2801]

At longer distance it might do better.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Of course.

[@clapton924]

I don't think it was a very fair test for the bullet. Almost anything will come apart at high velocity. Back up to 50-100yds and retest. This is a more realistic minimum hunting distance.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

I've adnitted as much in the video... curious as to why you need to write what c was already stated? Came across pretty rude.

[@clapton924]

@@AlaskanBallistics I'm agreeing with one of your conclusions in the video. Retesting is a good idea. I'm not sure how that is interpreted as rude. I hope you are doing well friend.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Because it sounds like you're trading the whole video when you go on and on about a single point already started in the video

[@clapton924]

@@AlaskanBallisticsI didn't mean for the comment to sound that way. Thanks for the video 👍🏼

[@AlaskanBallistics]

No problem probably just rubbed me the wrong way since KZbin wasn't showing people my videos

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Lost alot of its weight though ouch

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Still better than an eld-x

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

A ton of deformation

[@travisstankowski7495]

308 this is stupid. Most people cant shoot accuracy.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

?

[@travisstankowski7495]

308 is cheaper and works

[@AlaskanBallistics]

So this video is specifically about the performance of the bullet and not a caliber debate. Right now anything is cheaper than 6.5x284 Norma. I'm sure the gold dots would work in .308 as well. Send me some I'll make a video

[@travisstankowski7495]

Im giving you shit