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@billybobsnorton91963 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos. Pretty well done for DIY. You omitted some information on the 6.5-284N. You didn't mention that the 284 parent case is a rebated rim design. This means that the case rim, which is the same as 308, 30-06, 8mm Mauser, ect., is smaller than the case body. This gives equivalent case capacity of a 270Win or 30-06, in a 54mm case, as opposed to 64mm for the 30-06. I shoot and reload for a Cooper MDL22, 6.5-284Norma, 1/8", 26'' barrel. This a single shot heavy barreled varmint type rifle. I am used to very heavy recoiling magnum rifles, like 340WBY and 300WBY, presently. I always wanted a very, very accurate varmint rifle that will kill a moose. The recoil of this cartridge in this rifle is very light, about equivalent to a 223 in a light sporter rifle. The 6.5-284, first saw life as a wildcat, made popular by long range competition. I remember the article in Accurate Shooter. In this article they talk about how this woman, shot a 1.59", 5 shot group at 1000yds. This was a world record at the time, not any longer. The 6.5-284 has a reputation for being a barrel burner. Competitive long range shooter often reported loss of accuracy after as many as 800-900 rounds. A casual varmint shooter can go longer, before accuracy falls off enough, to require attention. Cooper Firearms of Montana offers a barrel replacement policy. Shoot out one of their barrels and for $125, they will replace, fit and test a replacement barrel. Plus shipping and all. I may use this very generous policy, eventually. I can save shipping by just driving over to Stevensville and taking a tour of their plant. I have talked to the fellow that tested the original barrel and they offered me a tour if I was ever in the area. They offered tips on COL, bullet jump, primer and powders. I would love to see their wood blanks and learn how they are able to see, in that blank, what becomes a mind-blowing rifle stock.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I'm getting .25 moa with handloads. Will be black bear hunting v with this all spring
@danielandrews70283 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics is this with the 6.5 creed? .25 moa? Do you think than kind of accuracy could be done in a308 ? I’m pretty exited!I finally got some large rifle primers and as soon as I did a friend found 800 more in an OLD stash. When it rains it pours :) I need more powder . I know I asked you this before but I tried and tried to find your reply to no avail. What powders do you use? I promise I’ll write them down this time :) thanks for posting these videos!
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
@@danielandrews7028 powders all depends on caliber. I like blc2 for .308. I get .25" with my 6.5x284 Norma and my 127gr barnes lrx
@Jeff_Seely2 жыл бұрын
That's fantastic! See? The Norma has been around all my life, hiding in plain site.
@bryanbecker8399 Жыл бұрын
Why doesn't their website mention this barrel replacement policy? Not calling you a liar, but plenty of people can shoot out a barrel every few years on Magnum and overbore cartridges...
@joshuamagill43423 жыл бұрын
A 6.5 PRC would have been cool to see in there, but near video anyway! Thank you very much!!
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Thanks for watching. I want a 6.5 PRC but can't afford the sako i like
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Not affordable... ryger made their m77 classic in 6.5x55 a while back
@karlschauff79892 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics It's not the rifle, it's the price of 6.5 PRC ammo that hurts.
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i box 3 boxes the other day
@karlschauff79892 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics How bad was it? At one point the only places selling Hornady 6.5 PRC wanted $140/box. It's back down below $90/box last I checked.
@darrylpacholko54953 жыл бұрын
These new, latest, greatest calibers are just retreads of old school calibers that have been around and taken game for years. The 6.5 PRC,26 nosler, 6.5 Creedmoor are all game killer's. So are the Swede, Norma and 6.5× 300 Weatherby. Let's also not forget about the .264 Winchester magnum and the 260 Remington. All great calibers, not all gained traction because they were going up against the big 3. The 30 06, 270 and the 308 are trusted and have a large fan following .
@Jeff_Seely2 жыл бұрын
Good comparison. I think they gimped the 6.5 - 284 Norma by shoving it down so far to fit everybody's mags. The F class guys are loading them out further and buying long-throated barrels to eke out more ballistic coefficient while handloading. The Norma has a lot of potential and is very accurate. Still, CIP has the Norma as having 32% more case volume and can at least match the Creedmoor in accuracy at longer ranges. Hunting guys have ~100-150fps boost in speed for improved penetration. Norma is probably the most powerful 6.5mm round that will fit a .473 boltface. I can't think of anything hotter than Norma without changing out the bolthead. God bless you too and your viewers and contributors.
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jeff. I appreciate the info.
@user-eg8hb8xt3j11 ай бұрын
Educated comment 🙏👍
@c_s_84113 жыл бұрын
Right on man! I did not want to get a 6.5 creed because everyone has one. I am going with the norma because it is obviously better. The only reservation I have is that the I have been reading that the norma has throat erosion problems after 1000 rounds. I am thinking about building and reaming my own with either a harder barrel or carbon fiber.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you really want a nuclear grade steel for this round. Anything above the creedmoor seems to have this problem, 6.5 prc, 6.5-06, 6.5x300 weatherby, for most hunters it's not a problem
@karlantonlillester48843 жыл бұрын
6.5x55 loaded with 140 grain Accubond gives me 2750-2800 fps from a 23 inch barrel. Inside 150 yards it gives excessively blodshot carcasses. In my book any more speed than that really starts to limit the practical ranges it can be used for. Sure I want to be able to shoot animals on the moon. But if that means lots of meatloss on the sensible ranges then I'll pass.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
I can understand that.
@magwamagwa451103 жыл бұрын
that blood shot meat is all dependent on the bullet shoot a barnes 127 LRX and it is a total different would channel...
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
I love barnes Lrx. All i hunt with
@karlantonlillester48843 жыл бұрын
@@magwamagwa45110 That might be I have not tried it. 👍
@magwamagwa451103 жыл бұрын
@@karlantonlillester4884 i have shot over 20 elk with both 7STW and 270 with 140 and 130 barnes ttsx and the ild x bullet and the biggest difference between solid copper and cup and core bullets is the amount of bloodshot meat the coppers really make a difference and no lead in your meat....
@Bones69872 жыл бұрын
All the 6.5mm cartridges have good killing power To bad the 6.5x57 never got any love in the USA It’s definitely a hidden Gem in the rifle world Can be pushed to those limits and beyond But thanks for the video Really like seeing the old school carts still kicking behind
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Thanks i wish i had some to test as well
@brianklamer33283 жыл бұрын
I own a .260, 6.5 Creedmoor and a 6.5-284 Norma. The 6.5-284 can be loaded up easier with heavier bullets, their 156 grain Oryx is a real hard hitter for a factory loaded cartridge.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i have that on order with a local gun shop, but you know how that is these days lol... just got dies, thinking about loading up some 127gr lrx like i use in my creedmoor.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
I've never shot a .260, would like to though.
@brianklamer33283 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics The .260 was the first I purchased and have killed more whitetail with it than any other caliber I own. Shooting it you don't have a nickles worth of difference to the Creedmoor.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
That's what I figured
@brianklamer33283 жыл бұрын
Your measurement of the Nosler Accubond Long Range bullet 129 grain 6.5 mm shows the bullet is not as sturdily constructed for weight retention at high velocities from short ranges as many would think. But then again, this is basic physics. Would like to see this comparison between Swift A-Frame vs Nosler Partiton in these similar bullet weights in these two calibers.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
When ammo or bullets are available agaim
@nmhvactech54743 жыл бұрын
Partitions are my favorite hunting bullets, just keep them 350yds and under, not the most accurate.
@valhallarchist95112 жыл бұрын
Have both calibers. My wife wanted a rifle other than her Mosin for Wisconsin whitetails. So, I bought the 6.5-284 to replace my 6.5 Creedmoor, which went to her. Love both rounds.
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Me too. Hoping to kill something with my 6.5x284 this year.
@valhallarchist95112 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics me too. Got my dope load worked up, and my dope sheet ready
@Stevojacks2 жыл бұрын
Chuck, first off great content! Enjoy all the videos as well as the music! I’ve always loved shotguns. Maybe do a bear protection for 12 ga? Various buck, and various slugs? Just a suggestion. Congrats on the child on the way! God bless, and continue with the great content!
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ian. I plan on filming 12ga vs .45-70 for bears. Soon
@gerry6.82 жыл бұрын
I used the 129 gr ABLR in my 260 Rem with H 4350 and got right at 2900 fps. I bet the 6.5-284 could get up to 3050 fps pretty easily with handloads. I thought hard about a lefty savage 116 stainless in 6.5-284 but the guy wanted too much for it. Great round in my opinion. My wife has a Tikka in 6.5x55 and it's a sweet set up too, loaded up to it's potential it is actually capable of more speed than the Creed or even 260. European companies load it up to a higher pressure compared to the American ones on average.
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i agree, I'm getting 3050 with 127gr barnes lrx with rl22 (video on it) in my 6.5x284. American companies don't want to be sued
@AlphaRomeoOneFive3 жыл бұрын
Great video and comparison Chuck! God bless you and the family brother 🦅🇺🇸
@BlueDart19713 жыл бұрын
Great video. I’m starting to think you started a channel as an excuse to buy new guns and shoot more without mama getting upset:)
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
You found me out
@PatRMG3 жыл бұрын
Totally my excuse.
@jamespugh3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video old 6.5x284 is the winner. Both will work but 6.5x284 will give better punch on bigger game at longer range.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Very true
@bobbyrobbins98163 жыл бұрын
Well done, and very informative sir. Thank you for the great comparisons.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Thank you for watching
@chrisdaniel13392 жыл бұрын
Can an Old School 6.5 whoop up on the Creedmoor? Every day of the week and twice on Sunday!
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Lol yep
@ruger7mm-0853 жыл бұрын
Both of my 6.5x284 are my favorite rifles to shoot
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
How far have you stretched them out?
@ruger7mm-0853 жыл бұрын
400 yards so far hopefully further
@DrBreezeAir3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love Norma. And I’d love to see you add the 6.5 PRC to the roster.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Yeah standardizing that round was a smart move by them
@jaywindlinger68153 жыл бұрын
I have both an AR10 6.5 Creedmore and a Savage F Class 6.5 x 284 the CLass has a 30 inch tube and I got 3050 fps with 140 gr Berger match this is a great 1000 yard combo but barrel is shot out in 1000 to 1200 rounds. The best group I have shot is 6.84 inches at 1000 yards. The AR10 has a 24 inch barrel and I have shot under 4 inches at 600 yards. Both are great rounds.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Jay. Thanks for the info. What's your load? I've been running 127gr lrx for hunting over a Max charge of rl22 getting 3050 with 26" barrel.
@sundaesha5892 Жыл бұрын
The fine print says the creedmoor achieves 2850+ fps out of a 28' barrel. (I saw it on the bottom of the cartridge box once)
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Weird... I get most velocities with a 24" . 28 inch is crazy
@ewetho3 жыл бұрын
The new calibers while very similar to older cartridges are improvements over their older counterparts by use of fast twist barrels and modern throat/lead dimensions. As well as considerations obviously for modern short actions… this with modern bullets allows us to shoot longer ranges and often due to better throat and lead design with better accuracy. That said, if you chamber and older cartridges with the longer throats in a fast twist barrel you may have no difference at all. Just the ammo for a 260rem will almost always be lighter bullets for the slow twist and seated shorter due to shorted throat. In a Creedmoor or PRC for example Bullets are heavier higher BC and seated out to make use of the standard chamber throat design…. My first 6.5 is being cut to 6.5x257 Roberts (x57) Ackley Improved (also known as 260 AAR) with a Rim cut for use of rimmed brass and a Creedmoor spec throat. Rim brass in my Encore as an option. So 257 Roberts +P or 7x57 brass and 7x57R brass as bass brass for conversion to AI. Also can start with 444 Marlin brass.. end result guys shooting nearly identical velocity to 6.5x284. Why the funny cartridge? Simple just for fun…
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
And i hope you have loads of fun with it!
@hunteranderson933 жыл бұрын
Yes a 6.5 PRC video would be great!
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
When i can find one to use
@terrymattson35873 жыл бұрын
My wife’s 6.5 Norma is the most accurate round that I ever reloaded for. I mean it liked just about every powder and projectile I put together.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Nice... what were some of your favorite loads
@terrymattson35873 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics my elk load for the 6.5 Norma is 155gr Lapua mega bullet with 47.5 gr HV100 OAL 2.913 and for prong horn 140 gr Berger VLD hunt with HV100 49 gr. OAL 3.050
@bobcatforever34853 жыл бұрын
Interesting, thanks for sharing. Take care.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@unsafe_at_any_speed3 жыл бұрын
I had a 6mm/284 for a while. It pushed a 75gr Amax at 4109fps avg. Stoopid fast and did great damage to coyote pelts ...
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
How long did the barrel last?
@unsafe_at_any_speed3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics about 200 rounds. I bought it used and it wasn't great when I received it. I just finished it off to see what that caliber was capable of. Too bad it remained a wildcat. The 6mm-06 Would be very similar ballistically I think just in a long action. Would love to get my hands on the 6.5/300 Weatherby also. I like overbored calibers even if they don't last long.
@nathanmanley42033 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison 👏
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@LoserJJA793 жыл бұрын
Can I get a Savage left handed bolt action in 6.5x284 Norma? Nope. But they have 6.5 Creedmoor...and I'm not a hunter so that works for me for long range shooting. Thanks for all the videos and hard work you put into them.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that'd be a rare bird the left hand
@LoserJJA793 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I'm wrong-handed. Lol But I do love my left-handed Savage 10 BA Stealth in 6.5 Creedmoor.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Sweet I'm glad you love it. What c kind of groups are you getting?
@LoserJJA793 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics .75" groups but I'm sure, and they claim, its capable of half inch groups.
@LoserJJA793 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics Love the Hornady ELD Match 140 and 147gr ammo.
@YellowHammer263 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!!
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@stevenboggs50763 жыл бұрын
This makes me want to investigate 129 ABLR vs 140 gold dot.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Hmm i wish i could find the gold dot load
@ratedredneck963 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this video lol i will admit im a 6.5 creedmoor fan lol not ashamed at all to say its my favorite hunting caliber, not because its the most powerful round ever but because the opposite actually. Its very capable of elk and moose if youre a disciplined shooter and you can make good shots like all hunters should. But it shines in the fact that it has the mid range locked down tight in the fact that it has a very versatile grain range. Its not too small to shoot an elk or moose with a 143gr eld x or something of that grain range but its also not too big to shoot a 90gr vmax at a bobcat or coyote and not wreck the pelt. The norma is the same .264 cal bullet just faster so it would perform really similarly i would assume on a live elk or moose or be so closely matched in live game that there wouldnt be much noticable difference besides recoil. They both stopped in the same water jug, but the norma hit a little harder at impact. Also, it would be something probably pretty hard to find ammo in without buying brasd and reloading yourself. I dont have any 6.5 norma at my stores where i buy my 6.5 creedmoor. The creedmoor would be good for smallish to medium to big game while the normas more devastating initial impact would remove it from the varmint list due to it probably not being very fur friendly, even though it is the same .264 projectile. Thats just my 2 cents on the matter, if you just hunt big stuff or have money to not mind buying 2 seperate rifles for each task then get a norma if you have that ammo in your local stores. However, if you want to conserve money and only get one rifle that covers a larger spectrum of game then the 6.5CM would be a better option. Also like i mentioned i believe the creedmoor is an easier bullet to aquire at a store than the norma. With the 2020 election looming it is crucial to vote for your gun rights because if biden gets in he will make bullet sales online totally banned and rifle sales and even accessory sales like grips, lasers, stocks, chassis, anything gun related would be banned online and taxed ridiculously in stores.
@762gunr2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the insane 6.5-300 Weatherby.
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
I know where I've is at and i like it, but I've got to get 300 win mag for the channel first
@Nathan_King3 жыл бұрын
Chuck, which brand and line of ammo have you seen be the most consistent with velocity?
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, they've all had problems. Nosler is usually the best, save this video.
@MauserM182 жыл бұрын
Will be great to have a 6.5 CM vs 6.5 prc video and 270 win vs 6.5 prc
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
I plan on filming 6.5prc vs 6.5x284 vs 6.5 creedmoor this summer. Also plan on doing 6.5x284 and 6.5prc vs 270win
@wesbarcus37613 жыл бұрын
Nosler started the premium bullet business with partitions. Now they have E tip all copper. Would like to see accubonds, vrs E Tip vrs Partition out of 284 Norma. Probably take too much time and effort, have to reload.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
If you can find and send me the bullets!
@wesbarcus37613 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics no promises, I'll see what I can do. California still sux for everything.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Lol so does Alaska
@wesbarcus37613 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I'll go shopping tomorrow, pickings are slim to none.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
I understand
@jerryjohnsonii41813 жыл бұрын
Interesting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@georgebarrera96533 жыл бұрын
What about 6.5 carcano round is that the same. always wondered about that old round
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
No clue about it
@joshuamagill43423 жыл бұрын
I can't wait!!!!!!
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Lol... patience
@racrx7283 жыл бұрын
How about comparing them both in a short action magazine rifle
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Had what I had
@racrx7283 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics when my 270 barrel wears out I'm replacing it with 6.5 284 or 6.5 prc most likely. Be nice to see how those compare to a 280 rem though.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
True. I wish i had a .280 rem to play with
@jcarry52143 жыл бұрын
Pretty surprised by that SD at 60 bucks a box, lower 48 price.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@jdg56823 жыл бұрын
Test some sake super hammerhead and norma oryx
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
I've got the orynx on order with a store
@G19Jeeper3 жыл бұрын
The oryx is excellent. I am trying those next. I used a Woodleigh SPRN to take a deer this year and it broke apart, I’ve heard the oryx is tougher.
@longrange28503 жыл бұрын
Does the 6.5 Creedmoor use the same bullets/projectile as the 6.5 284 Norma? I have the Creedmoor and am thanking of getting the Norma and was wondering if I can use the same bullets/projectiles in my hand loads. Thank you for any information you can provide.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Yep...
@longrange28503 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics Thank you, and I liked and subscribed to both your channels, I love both guns and classical music a perfect combination in my opinion.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Bank you very much I've got to do more with the classical music channel I just don't have the time. Hopefully you'll like the anti gun control song I'm writing now
@longrange28503 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics Haha I most definitely will, I’ll be waiting. I’m listening to your music now great content definitely keep it up. 👍
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@rowdybroomstick12162 жыл бұрын
I don't remember the question exactly but I asked him a specific question several times last year and he never would answer me🤷 No bueno on the gun father!
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
KZbin probably blocked the comment. I'm sorry i didn't see it. Sorry my friend
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
KZbin deleted the comment you just left on my latest 10mm video
@hopefulballistics2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your channel. I made a cartridge review on the 6.5-284 if you want to check it out
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Yeah send me a link via Instagram or MeWe
@LowSpeedHighDrag52 жыл бұрын
6.5-284N isn’t that old. It’s funny to hear it talked about as though it’s ancient. lol
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Yeah 1970s for wildcatting is pretty old.. closer to 50 years
@jdg56823 жыл бұрын
Maybe some same calibre tests comparing different ammo
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Only two things i could find alike in Alaska
@poorfatman53173 жыл бұрын
Cool video
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother
@3DOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting.
@Me2Lancer3 жыл бұрын
You mention the 6.5 Creedmoor versus 6.5 Norma x 284 Old School. The Norma came out in 1999. I've had the 6.5 x 55 Carl Gustaf since 1998 and it was introduced in the early 1890s. Calling the Norma old school is a misnomer.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm pretty sure it was wildcatted long before then, it's just older than the Creedmoor's popularity
@Me2Lancer3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics You are right. The parent case .284 Winchester was created around 1963, but did not see extensive commercial use. Having said that it's nowhere close to the early 1890s like the 6.5 x 55.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
That's true. Too bad nobody owns the 6.5x55 up here for me to test
@Me2Lancer3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I hear you. You test what you have.
@user-cl2ls7kz7o3 жыл бұрын
A lot of deviation for a high dollar ammo.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
True
@MrHyde-dt1sx3 жыл бұрын
Personally I like the straight accubond better. In my Norma they’re a hammer on Whitetails
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
That's great. The regular accubond did not perform well for me on a caribou at 250 yards. .30-06 180gr loaded to about 2600.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
But at shorter range and higher velocities i can see it working well
@MrHyde-dt1sx3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I’ve shot em at 440 yards here and they folded right there with the Norma. Makes me wonder how batches of bullets vary
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Think they might be more heavily bonded in a 180gr .30-06
@MrHyde-dt1sx3 жыл бұрын
Heck, you coulda just ask me and I’d of grilled us some ribs!
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Anytime
@MrHyde-dt1sx3 жыл бұрын
Really like my Norma and 140 gr accubonds for a deer round Never felt the need for the creedmoor and it’s not the magic wand some folks would like us to believe. I’d be reluctant to carry either in big bear country and there’s lots better elk and moose rounds.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Understand. My creedmoor did fine on a caribou though. Bigger than whitetail but smaller than elk
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
And I agree
@jdg56823 жыл бұрын
How about a 243 video
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
I have a 6.5 vs 243 video already with gmx.
@donniespradling68293 жыл бұрын
6.5 300 weatherby would be cool
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
If i can borrow a rifle, sure
@sugargoldy3 жыл бұрын
Looks like the Norma kicks a little harder
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Not enough to notice for me
@austinlohmann40083 жыл бұрын
How well does the 6.5-300 wby and 30-378 compare in terms of drop at 1000 yards against the 284 norma
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure they will do way less but both are barrel burners... meaning average barrel life is going to be 500 to 700 rounds for match grade accuracy
@austinlohmann40083 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics my last option would be 338-378 Weatherby would you pick that over the 6.5 284 norma? I just want something that shoots very flat up to 1,000 yards for long range shooting.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
If you're handloading it doesn't matter. But i can only find the Norma ammo on the shelf. So i I'd choose the Norma... plan on replacing barrel at 1600 to 1700 rounds though. I've shot 1000 with a .308 it's not easy but doable.
@MsDtab3213 жыл бұрын
At 4 bucks a round, I'll stick with creedmoore.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
3 bucks but yeah handloader's caliber
@MsDtab3213 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics lol creedmoor cost just as much now!! My comment didn't age well.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Lol true
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
I'm loading rounds right now for about $0.80. Got the lapua brass when i traded for the gun
@MsDtab3213 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics that's good, if consider that an achievement as to what's going on right now. All the gouging resellers have tested my faith in humanity.
@mj23isthebest2 жыл бұрын
6.5 wby rpm
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
If i could afford a rifle I'd test it
@jdg56823 жыл бұрын
243 barnes vs gmx
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
At some point we'll do that
@jdg56823 жыл бұрын
Should be cool
@BOHEMIANHUNTINGCLUB3 жыл бұрын
🍻👍
@chippyjohn13 жыл бұрын
You keep saying old school, the 6.5X55 is the old school calibre and still better than both.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Cartridge was standardized in 1999 but was first wildcatted in the 1970s... much older than the creedmoor. Funny how the 6.5x55 swede is old but doesn't shoot any better or faster than the creedmoor for that case Capacity
@chippyjohn13 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics Yeah that is were you are wrong. The 6.5X55 is 130 years old, it was a low pressure cartridge back then. You can reload it higher than the creed, about 10-15% more velocity. It's very similar to the 6.5-284 in performance loaded to a modern pressure in a modern rifle. Also the creed is good for shorter barrels, 550mm. Where the 6.5X55 and 284 are tapered towards 650mm + barrels to utilise their extra capacity. A 600mm barrel is common for both because its a good medium for ergonomics and velocity, it is not the ideal length for a larger case capacity of the time proven 6.5. The original mauser 6.5X55 had a 760mm barrel and its velocity was on par with the creed. The swedes designed around efficiency. Look at the grendel, its not much slower than the creed with a lot less powder. That is because it has a similar length barrel usually and actually burns all its powder. So if you compare different capacity cases, you MUST account for different barrel lengths to make it a proper review of their intended bore to length ratio.
@OTG4143 жыл бұрын
Why compare long range cartridges at short range? Obviously the bigger cartridge, pushing the same bullet is going to beat the smaller cartridge. I don't think we need much convincing about that.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
most people aren't even familiar with the 6.5-284, it's just to show the difference. You got a long range place I can film in Alaska that's not too far of a drive?
@guardianminifarm80053 жыл бұрын
PRC is a good bit better. All are good rounds
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Wish i had one to play with
@guardianminifarm80053 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics Surely you have a 264 Win Mag accessible up there. If my info is accurate the 6.5 PRC only slightly exceeds the velocity of the "Old School" 264 Win. Just a thought. Hornady has an old school offering still in their line up.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
I know no one who has one
@guardianminifarm80053 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics bummer. 6.5 offerings are definitely enjoying a season of popularity.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
True
@poorfatman53173 жыл бұрын
The old ones are always better
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Most of the time.
@jaygolliday81523 жыл бұрын
Isn’t a 284 Norma a long action? Is so why are you comparing a short action vs a long action....
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Nope it's a tweener
@brianmouton1962 жыл бұрын
I just can't figure put why someone would even want to do this comparison.. its apples and oranges
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Some people like to learn about cartridges. Almost all comparisons are apples to oranges
@mj_slender67177 ай бұрын
At the prices of those 🍎 apples and oranges 🍊 . I'm thankful you are paying for that fruit to bring us results that you do. Thank you.
@AlaskanBallistics7 ай бұрын
You're welcome, we'll said.
@stanleymarucha81942 жыл бұрын
the needmore is over rated
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Ehh not if you use it for what it was designed for
@mj_slender67177 ай бұрын
Wasn't designed to be a speed demon, was designed as a low recoil drift friendly round. Able to stay on target for correction. With today's range finders and ballistics calculators bullet drop is a nonfactor. Bucking wind much more important. Kentucky windage is a thing of the past.