Ballistics Gel Testing at 600 Yards: 6.5 PRC & 6.5 Creedmoor

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Backfire

Backfire

Күн бұрын

In this week's video, we do some long range ballistics gel testing.

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@backfire
@backfire 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. No idea why I said “chronometer” three times. Obviously, I meant “chronograph.”
@ballisticintegrity9741
@ballisticintegrity9741 2 жыл бұрын
I think the audience will know what you meant.
@artardz
@artardz 2 жыл бұрын
Nice shootin'!
@thomasford2946
@thomasford2946 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly you are new to this whole rifle thing!😂
@ballisticintegrity9741
@ballisticintegrity9741 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasford2946 🤣
@inalaska1709
@inalaska1709 2 жыл бұрын
Were you using the 143 gr?
@JohnSmith-yx8kf
@JohnSmith-yx8kf 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone shooting gel at range. Always thought people shooting gel at 15 yards and trying to convey the difference between something like a 10.3" and 14.5" AR15 were really not doing the experiment justice.
@arthurshingler2025
@arthurshingler2025 Жыл бұрын
And hitting it at that range!
@willo7734
@willo7734 Жыл бұрын
Wow, epic shooting man! Nobody else ever shoots gel at long range. This video delivered!
@michaeleckler1394
@michaeleckler1394 2 жыл бұрын
only a gun nerd would understand the excitement!!! great shots!
@coltruger2553
@coltruger2553 2 жыл бұрын
Mega dittos!!
@flyingfalcon8999
@flyingfalcon8999 2 жыл бұрын
Your wife is a great woman for putting up with this stuff.
@arthurshingler2025
@arthurshingler2025 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, my wife would do it once, and then she'd take the keys, and drive home in the car...leaving me out there!
@gsh341
@gsh341 2 жыл бұрын
First, that was some darn good shooting. Second, your explanation of what you were doing at every stage was very well explained and easy to follow. Finally, I love the fact you did real world distance testing into gel. It gives hunters solid information they can use.
@nsaechao84ns
@nsaechao84ns 2 жыл бұрын
I had a pass through on my cow hunt at 500 yards through the lungs shooting up at an angle. Didnt hit bone. 6.5 creedmoor eldx 143gr.
@larrymitchell3502
@larrymitchell3502 2 жыл бұрын
@@nsaechao84nsCow elk? Surprised you didn't hit a rib, just by chance. What kinda damage / how far did she go?
@larrymitchell3502
@larrymitchell3502 2 жыл бұрын
@gsh341 Second this. Real data @,considerable effort. Thank you.
@nsaechao84ns
@nsaechao84ns 2 жыл бұрын
@@larrymitchell3502 Didnt blow up like a ballistic tip inside. Just pushed through with okay size hole about a half dollar diameter. Exit side was little bigger but didnt get that picture. Less than 10 yards and dropped. Saw blood trail on the ground from the back side where it walked and fell over.
@williamnantz5604
@williamnantz5604 2 жыл бұрын
Get your wife in more videos. She seems delightful lol. Also, if you remain dubious about the creedmoor, try this with a Paul Harrell-esque 'meat target'... then you can have a cookout afterwords too
@GBGuns
@GBGuns 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this and great job doing it! I appreciate how difficult testing, let alone filming this can be.
@twothouse123
@twothouse123 2 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for videos like this for years!! Do more calibers!! So awesome! I'd love to see this with a 300 wm or a 270 or other common hunting rounds and bullets!!!
@brianmadsen8888
@brianmadsen8888 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!! I ABSOLUTELY LOVE that you and your wife get to do that together! You 2 are awesome! Keep the great content coming! Btw… you have a truck, time to get a trailer and SXS!!!!
@backfire
@backfire 2 жыл бұрын
More of a boat guy 😀
@ryanbernard6550
@ryanbernard6550 2 жыл бұрын
@@backfire por que no los dos?
@blakejohnson2381
@blakejohnson2381 2 жыл бұрын
@@backfire do you ever go fishing 🎣
@Ben-ry1py
@Ben-ry1py 2 жыл бұрын
I entered your 2600fps muzzle velocity 143gr eld-x bullet with G1 BC of .625 into federals ballistics calculator and according to that the bullet would be traveling at 1825 feet per second at 600 yards. While still having 1057 ft lbs of energy. Impressive performance!
@thatoneguy454c
@thatoneguy454c Жыл бұрын
Considering that your average 5.56 out of a 16 inch barrel only carries between 1200 and 1300 ft lb at the muzzle I would say that would still be very effective. At 1100 yards with that load you would still have about the same energy as a 147 grain 9mm at the muzzle. You might not get expansion at 1100 yards but it is most definitely still lethal.
@arthurshingler2025
@arthurshingler2025 Жыл бұрын
Yes it is! But I still wouldn't shoot at game at that distance.
@Go__Birds
@Go__Birds 2 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up on keeping the first shots on there, when you forgot to adjust the scope. All of us do it from time to time but most people would edit that out. 👍
@bryanshull372
@bryanshull372 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great test! Testing them 15 or 20 yards from the muzzle is useless. Nobody shoots anything that close. Realistic ranges are much more useful information. Thanks.
@jasondauria6336
@jasondauria6336 Жыл бұрын
Whatever it is, at 15 or 20 yards it's getting the side arm. 🙌
@mezzanoon
@mezzanoon 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic footage! Really hope to see this explored with other common calibres.
@Hunter-tl3vl
@Hunter-tl3vl 2 жыл бұрын
I took a antelope last year with 6.5 creedmoor and a 140 ELD-M at 562yrds. In behind the left shoulder, out through the right shoulder. 2inch exit wound. No bullet fragments in the meat. If you go on the Hornaday mil/le web page it says the ELD-Ms have excellent terminal ballistic performance. From my experience this is quite accurate. There is just a stigma on the civilian side of using match bullets for hunting. When shot placement is key why wouldn't you want to shoot a more accurate projectile?
@thomasford2946
@thomasford2946 2 жыл бұрын
This. In a Marine Sniper platoon and all we’d shoot is BTHP. It works great. I hunt with 6.5 cm 147gr ELD-M.
@stevenlewis6781
@stevenlewis6781 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasford2946 Thomas, as a Marine sniper how effective do you think the Creedmoor would have in a combat/sniper system? I know they've tested the .260 Remington and have some Creedmoor rifles. I was a bit surprised when they recommended a round like they ended up with considering the well known penetration/sectional density of the 6.5 bullet. Thank you for your service.
@StewieStew820
@StewieStew820 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, ive seen a video comparing the eldm and eldx, and there was little difference on gel
@benjaminbrown1179
@benjaminbrown1179 2 жыл бұрын
This is prob rhetorical, and common knowledge but I'll put it out here. The eld-x has a slightly thicker jacket and Is a great performer at closer ranges. Tougher, and can handle the higher velocities at closer ranges. On the other hand the m's with a thinner jacket act like the eld-x at the longer ranges and are amazing. We hunt bear in eastern NC and the eld-x shines out to 400 yards. Past that out to 900 the eld-m is the projectile of choice. That's on thick bear hide, and dense muscle. Not trying to hit any bone except ribs or skull. Using 6.5 prc and 6.5 swede.... which is basically o.g. Creedmoor
@glub2209
@glub2209 Жыл бұрын
“If it don’t got a picture of a deer on the box then it ain’t gonna kill a deer!”- Fudd logic 😂
@DanielBoone337
@DanielBoone337 2 жыл бұрын
The ELD-X is a decent bullet at lower velocities and will do the job on deer sized game at pretty much any ethical distance. I've even heard of people killing elk with them but I shot a doe in the neck 2 years ago at 75 yards and it didn't come out the other side... I shot an 80lb hog in the front shoulder at under 100 yards the same year and it didn't come out the other side and both were using the 143gr ELD-X in 6.5 Creedmoor. I wanted to like this bullet because it's an extremely accurate one and these could've been very rare results to have but I made the decision that year if it isn't a bonded or an all copper bullet outside of a few exceptions I don't hunt with them. Still a great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
@stevepirie8130
@stevepirie8130 2 жыл бұрын
All copper? You mean the entire round or just FMJ? I saw the other day you folks have different laws in each state and all copper was mentioned. Just interested thanks.
@4mrholsterco981
@4mrholsterco981 2 жыл бұрын
The 140gr eldm has a thinner jacket. Exited the whitetail at 300 yards (6.5 creed). Perfect double lung and the deer dropped like a sack of potatoes. Exit hole was small, but the damage to the lungs was like looking at what my 30-06 using 180gr bullets has. Never found much eldx in stock then but I did find a lot of eldm so I was stocked up. Didn’t find any pieces of the jacket or find the bullet so I’m not sure how well it stayed together. 125 grain Winchester deer season didn’t shoot well out of my rifle, but seems good out of a browning a bolt, my sister shot a whitetail with that and it dropped, and had exit so if your rifle likes them that could work for you.
@Splincir
@Splincir 2 жыл бұрын
I love that your wife does this stuff with you and her laughing at your excitement at the end is wholesome. My wife doesn't mind my love of guns but she's not super interested when I nerd out about them. Probably because she knows every time I nerd out a new gun or gun accessory appears in the safe. Which has been over filled since I got it pretty much.
@stevenlewis6781
@stevenlewis6781 2 жыл бұрын
Great shooting and impressive results. The Creedmoor really punches above it's weight.
@mr.mr.3301
@mr.mr.3301 2 жыл бұрын
For hunting I can’t warm up to anything smaller than a 7mm
@craigwhowell8955
@craigwhowell8955 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is my absolute favorite! Great information. Great narrator! Love your attitude & integrity!
@GG0823
@GG0823 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive test with some serious results.
@gertbotha9980
@gertbotha9980 2 жыл бұрын
I am from RSA. Shot many blue wildebeest in my life. They are tough as hell. I once wounded one using my 375 H&H, never to be seen again. Also witnessed one run over 1km after a bad shot from a 460 Wby. Shot placement must be spot on with these animals. Recently shot 3 using 90gr Accubonds in my .243 Win. All head shots between 100m-150m. Local farmers joke that they sell most wildbeest twice, as most hunters only wound them. Happens to ALL of us.
@M240D
@M240D 2 жыл бұрын
.243 is KING in the Midwest in the USA. Great for varmints on up to the corn fed, white tail deer we have here
@bigjon576
@bigjon576 2 жыл бұрын
@@M240D I got a Winchester model 70 in 243. I love it but haven't gotten anything with it yet.
@NotYoAverageJoe
@NotYoAverageJoe 2 жыл бұрын
Baie mooi Gert, daai goed is superhero bokke.
@gertbotha9980
@gertbotha9980 2 жыл бұрын
Dankie Joe!
@ralphesposito8426
@ralphesposito8426 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! We need more of these test. I would love to see 308 same test!!
@southernmarksman
@southernmarksman 2 жыл бұрын
Best part of the video was your wife commenting on how happy you looked. Great info! Thanks for all the work you did to bring this to us, I'm glad that you enjoyed yourself!
@220swift7
@220swift7 2 жыл бұрын
The 6.5x55 Swede is used all over the world, and is very popular with Scandanavian moose hunters. The Creedmoor is almost a ballistic twin to the Swede. I'm not sure how it gets the reputation of being only adequate for deer and antelope. It has plenty of horsepower, and has plenty of bullets options with high sectional density. Elk should be absolutely no problem at reasonable distance. But then again, I think the 257 Bob is a fine cartridge as well. lol
@Freezer003
@Freezer003 2 жыл бұрын
Your catch is 'at reasonable distance." Seems everyone nowadays wants to blast an elk at 1200 yards and have everything go perfect.
@driftertank
@driftertank 2 жыл бұрын
The other qualifier with the Swede is that the traditional moose round is a 160 RN, if I recall properly, compared to the 125-150gr spitzers typically used in the Creed. Heavy round nose bullets have more predictable expansion and deeper penetration than typical spitzer bullets, with the trade-off of having the ballistics of a truck...
@larrymitchell3502
@larrymitchell3502 2 жыл бұрын
@@driftertank Exactly. Most of those Scandinavian shots with a 6.5x55 likely inside 200 meters, too. Cross-canyon elk @ 600 Yds I feel way more comfortable with a 175 gr 7 rem mag (minimum) or a 200 gr+. 308 bullet @ 3100+ fps MV. 300 Win mag & up. It ain't what works when everything's perfect but what makes an exit wound when you hit the near shoulder. On purpose.
@J_Un1t
@J_Un1t Жыл бұрын
@@Freezer003people talk about that creedmoor strawman online that thinks he can kill everything at a mile but I’ve never seen it in real life. I have seen a hunter with a 338 lapua claim he can go to 1100 and then midd a bull by 6 feet
@J_Un1t
@J_Un1t Жыл бұрын
@@larrymitchell3502there are tons of photos on rokslide of people killing elk with 143 eldx, 130tmk etc out of creeds and 260s at long range. The punch straight through shoulders. The thread is like 26 pages of kills, worth a read.
@boys2meme459
@boys2meme459 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see this test with the 127 LRX at 400 yards. Also maybe some catch block or a backer so we can see the bullets. Great content!
@biggs8729
@biggs8729 2 жыл бұрын
Second this one. For my 6.5 CM, 127 LRX and at my elevation, 9000-12,000 ft, 500 yards is the outer limit I think for good expansion.
@WayStedYou
@WayStedYou 2 жыл бұрын
Or just use 20% gel instead of 10%
@A14275
@A14275 2 жыл бұрын
@@biggs8729 the 127 LRX is capable of reliable expansion out to 700 yards or more @9500 ASL at fall hunting temps. 1800fps still expands well, though obviously less than closer ranges.
@theblindsniper9130
@theblindsniper9130 2 жыл бұрын
Thats some good shooting, man.
@lawrenceallen8096
@lawrenceallen8096 2 жыл бұрын
Put a sunshade over the camera!
@apogeus2
@apogeus2 2 жыл бұрын
love your videos and how excited you get:) it's somewhere inspirational! why don't you have same test with different calibers? 308, 300, 30-06, 5.56; you get the point. youtube will probably hate you, but "we are the people" would love you 👍
@captainscarlett1
@captainscarlett1 2 жыл бұрын
We're used to seeing gel get shot at 20m, good to see what happens at range. All those people who say bullets lose energy at longer range, yeah but it'll still do the job.
@wadeanders4579
@wadeanders4579 2 жыл бұрын
Finally....someone shot gel at a realistic range....well done! Keep up the good work. Side note...well done on keeping the kids shooting.
@Txm8de
@Txm8de 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I love your work and energy you put into these videos. I get so much grief for shooting the 6.5 Creedmoor, but unjust don’t care. I haven’t had an animal walk off on me yet.
@jarek0737
@jarek0737 2 жыл бұрын
Except what have you shot with it? At what distances? See it's not just about 6.5... Everyone acts like it doesn't matter as long as you make a clean impact. The point I make is energy transfer. It passed through you say.. Well of course it did, but did it transfer energy efficiently? That is the truly debatable part. Along with it doesn't carry as what i consider enough energy, especially at the distances people are trying to harvest game.. You can clearly tell even in this video.. If there was bone or anything with heavy flesh you have to pass through.. Would it? I would say possibly but, not being a humane kill probably.. Deer is one thing.. The punchline, The thing that bothers me is people have shot caribou and moose at great distance with it. I have myself witnessed 3 events as they put 4-5 rounds in these animals over 400+ yards. Literally trying to take them down.. Did they die? Yes, eventually.. Was it humane and ethical, I would argue not remotely.. Yet people online are still swearing by it..
@Txm8de
@Txm8de 2 жыл бұрын
@@jarek0737 I have seen and experienced the exact opposite. At the end of say I don’t shoot it pass 500 yards. There is enough energy out to 600 yards. No matter what round anyone uses shot placement is still the key. I have seen game run off with a 300 WM and 7mm REM MAG. Once again shot placement is key.
@mrmatt7210
@mrmatt7210 Жыл бұрын
@@jarek0737 Your post brings up an interesting question which you may be qualified to answer. You comment on the need for "efficient energy transfer" but in what "form" is the energy of the bullet transferred to the game which was shot? With this question answered, how would you measure the amount of energy transferred to compare its efficiency to other similar bullets?
@10-4CodyWade
@10-4CodyWade 10 ай бұрын
@@mrmatt7210 To understand energy transfer consider the bullet before it's fired. Energy is transferred to the bullet by the pressure exerted on the base. Pressure x Surface area x distance gives you the amount of energy. Larger caliber or longer barrel will = more energy. After leaving the bore, energy is transferred to the air during the bullet's flight. Here you want to minimize energy loss so a smaller caliber and/or shorter flight path are better. When the bullet hits an animal it's the same story. Energy is transferred via surface area, pressure, and distance. A skinny bullet will lose less energy than a fatter bullet. The energy retained upon impact will be converted into 3 main areas: Bullet deformation, tissue damage, and if the bullet exits then the 3rd area is just wasted in the dirt. Frontal area, which varies with bullet diameter squared, is a huge factor in both bullet acceleration and deceleration (tissue damage). Of course "shot placement is key" is the phrase used by people who hunt with small calibers. It has a lot of truth to it. But why would you intentionally handicap yourself by requiring a perfect shot on the animal you're hunting? Larger calibers cause more damage and give you more latitude for acceptable shot placement. Unless you're a child or a very small woman I don't see any reason to carry a gun that's only adequate for taking game with ideal shot placement. The phrase, "Use the biggest gun you can shoot well" is much better advice if you want quick kills.
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! Thank you so much for putting out such real world experience. Good shooting Sir! Very impressive. It is wonderful that your wife is out there with you. Family first in the under the sun realm. Good show.
@bendrixbailey1430
@bendrixbailey1430 2 жыл бұрын
Given what you demonstrated here, and in the previous video of the 6.5CM going through the wood block, I am at a loss to understand the concern expressed here and elsewhere regarding the ability of a 6.5CM round to kill at ranges beyond 300yd. ??? A hole in the heart is a hole in the heart. Ditto for lungs. I am a bowhunter so this idea of a “knock down” shot, or the need to go through heavy bone is just foreign! Everything is about accurately piercing the heart/lungs. Sure, they run a short distance, but they die just as dead. Because 6.5CM is so accurate and has lower recoil I’d expect it would be more likely to provide that heart/lung wound out to 500yd. Anyway, I purchased a Savage 110 6.5CM principally due to your review of that and other rifles here. I was hoping to take it on a mountain goat hunt rather than my 280AI, but the guide made it clear “I hate the 6.5 Creedmore” that he did not want me to show up with that rifle. How did that round get the bad reputation? Based on your ballistic gel demonstrations I’d say not from its ability to kill with an accurate shot. More likely from poor shooting.
@talanhuntingandfishing5087
@talanhuntingandfishing5087 2 жыл бұрын
Do the same video with 308 and 30-06
@cliffjohnson3961
@cliffjohnson3961 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s see the difference at 200 yards like your show but I’m getting tired with all the shows talking about all these new ammo like to see stuff for Midwest or even hunting in the big woods where you seldom get a shot past 200 yards
@rolandmcrae6817
@rolandmcrae6817 Жыл бұрын
Really cool video man. 6.5 creedmoor is next on my wishlist. What scope you using?
@coltonkarges2656
@coltonkarges2656 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always!! Just got myself a 6.5 cm over a 308 because of this channels (for now... can always add more to the collection right?) Curious to your thoughts on AR 10 type rifles... just got the dd5v5 and it shoots 3/4 moa in the limited testing I've done! Love to hear your thoughts!
@tristanmack5779
@tristanmack5779 2 жыл бұрын
I completely understand that not every box of bullets is going to have the same level of quality but I still shake my head when people knock the ELD-X's. I dropped a big bull elk in his tracks at 650 yards and rolled him down the hill with my 7mm STW shooting the 162gr's. One and done. Again I've heard some complaints about quality control, but I have yet to shoot an ELD-X that didn't fly like a laser beam and absolutely hammer an animal...phenomenal round in my opinion. I've converted all of my hunting rifles to those bullets and those bullets only. Haven't been let down by them yet.
@tristanmack5779
@tristanmack5779 2 жыл бұрын
Also, great shooting and amazing results! Love it! 🤘🏻
@donho670
@donho670 2 жыл бұрын
Lucky guy. Nice rifle and great support team. Excellent video, thanks.
@seanwhite304
@seanwhite304 2 жыл бұрын
That's actually super impressive . I didnt think it was going through the full block . Cross is only 18" Barrel which is equally more impressive to have those results . Nice video bro and nice freaking shooting
@gilream
@gilream 2 жыл бұрын
That was a seriously interesting video. I really enjoyed it. Congratulations.
@andrewkieper5613
@andrewkieper5613 2 жыл бұрын
I fully understand the groaning while laying prone n getting up. The struggle is real 🤣 I just turned 37 and I'm in decent shape and it is just a part of life 🙃
@brucer81
@brucer81 2 жыл бұрын
You make the best darn videos. I just love them and learn so much. I live in the California (I know) and I just hate it. I haven't been able to buy primers for reloading for over 2 years. Bass Pro won't stock them because it cuts into the ammo sales and they make you join their "club" if you want to buy more than $100. worth of ammo at a time. Of course joining their club is contingent upon applying for and being granted their own credit card. No credit card, no quantity ammo sales. Total ripoff. Keep up the good work!!!
@santicristyn2328
@santicristyn2328 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for taking the time and being willing to do these kind of things for the rest of us that may not have the time and resources this gives me a good starting point
@leethomas556
@leethomas556 2 жыл бұрын
Still had jacket separate at 600 yards...that's a failure of the bullet
@SeedFiddler-kp4eg
@SeedFiddler-kp4eg 7 ай бұрын
Awesome. I just bought a Bergara B14 Hunter in 6.5 Creedmoor. Since I'm almost 70 years old, I wanted something that would be my go-to gun and would be easier on my shoulder than the .30-06 that I've had for over 40 years. I think I've found the gun I need. Thank you for putting this together and sharing it with us. God bless, Miles P.S. Chronometer/Chronograph... whatever. We all know what you meant, and most of us, I'll bet, didn't even catch it.
@jtstarky
@jtstarky 2 жыл бұрын
Did you make your own ballistics gel or buy it from somewhere?
@jerryyang8174
@jerryyang8174 2 жыл бұрын
Always wanted to see gel in further distances and now I can. Thanks. Good stuff.
@francoisstoltz7762
@francoisstoltz7762 2 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this one. Wow, who knew the Creed still hits that hard at long range? You see the numbers but jeez to see it penetrate and make a wound cavity like that and exit again, wow Hard to argue with those results and fantastic marksmanship btw, that group at 600 is fire.
@vinceevans4228
@vinceevans4228 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely timely video. Yesterday I got up at 5:30 am to go to the desert and shoot my 6.5 Creedmore at 600 yards, a first for me. I handloaded 40gr H4250 with 140gr ELDM bullets seated up close to the lands. Last time out this rifle shot .7moa in the heat with the first 2 rounds in the center of the bull. Chronometer measured 2602fps just like yours. I messed up the ballistic calculator and came up with a setting of up 12.75 moa. I will be going back for day 2 using 14.5 and hope to be more successful like you. Thanks for all the videos.
@mrmaphousa4349
@mrmaphousa4349 2 жыл бұрын
Man your videos are fun and informative. I sure wish we could use suppressors here in Canada.
@nickm8940
@nickm8940 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta apologize to Backfire. I've been watching your vids for months now and am an infinitely more competent rifle shooter as a result but I never subscribed. That fixed, thank you for the excellent content and passion
@backfire
@backfire 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@trentguymon
@trentguymon 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this test done on every long-range caliber from 224 Valkyrie to 416 Barrett... Although, "extreme range" might have to be adjusted for each caliber.
@robertpetersson1390
@robertpetersson1390 2 жыл бұрын
Extreme range it is not only about the caliber it is about the game. 600 meter is way off the ethical border .
@trentguymon
@trentguymon 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertpetersson1390 I would argue that 600 is kind of an arbitrary line and depends on the circumstances, However from a purely ballistic perspective there's not a very interesting difference between point blank and 600 yards if you're shooting a 416 but with other calibers every 100 yards the velocity will change significantly.
@utubewatcher3852
@utubewatcher3852 2 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting someone to do along rang test. Everyone else has ben close . Now you know what that bullet does on game at 600 yards.
@biggs8729
@biggs8729 2 жыл бұрын
Barbour Creek has testes dozens of rounds at 600 yards. Often shoots thru hide and bone too. The Hornady ELDM bullets seem to do the best at those ranges. Look them up.
@rotasaustralis
@rotasaustralis 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I've not seen or heard of anyone else shooting those gel blocks at anything like 600 yrds &, to shoot it 3 times. That's some good shooting there brother. Good to see you've got the misses running around after your every command. Good stuff. Treat em mean, keep em keen I always say.
@jstreetgiant1970
@jstreetgiant1970 2 жыл бұрын
Love the option to shoot from the bed, but my RAM only has the 5’7” bed, and I’m 6’4”. 🤣 May need to pick up a sheet of plywood to extend my platform out another foot. 🤔 Good shooting and as always, thanks for the info.
@10mikemikeshooter
@10mikemikeshooter 2 жыл бұрын
It's not the years, it's the miles.😜
@larrymitchell3502
@larrymitchell3502 2 жыл бұрын
74 this coming Friday. It's BOTH. 🤣
@MDCreekmore
@MDCreekmore 2 жыл бұрын
Try using a camcorder - that will fix the overheating issue. And another benefit is the zoom on a camcorder.
@mdog1615
@mdog1615 2 жыл бұрын
Should’ve thrown a 6.5 Swedish in there as well to see how the OG 6.5 compares to the new ones
@Pete856
@Pete856 2 жыл бұрын
Given it shoots the same bullets at around the same speeds (he was using a short barrel rifle, so the Swede should be slightly faster), then the results would look much the same.
@coydogdentist
@coydogdentist 2 жыл бұрын
Where do you get the gel blocks?
@keithchavez7190
@keithchavez7190 2 жыл бұрын
I never comment on videos. Just don’t really care that much to or something. But I absolutely loved this test. Please keep these videos coming. I have a 12.5” Christensen MPP in 6.5CM. I really wonder how well it would do at distance.
@evenweaker4371
@evenweaker4371 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone shooting gel at long range!
@aaronpudlicki7418
@aaronpudlicki7418 2 жыл бұрын
The slower the impact velocity, the deeper the penetration because it isn't expanding as violently.
@backfire
@backfire 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but the wound channel looks pretty identical to close range.
@aaronpudlicki7418
@aaronpudlicki7418 2 жыл бұрын
@@backfire Tip our hats to the engineers at the Hornady!
@bennetthodgins5499
@bennetthodgins5499 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see this with a 280ai. awesome video
@MarkBerenger
@MarkBerenger 10 ай бұрын
'clear gel" isn't standard ballistic gel. I see you're using 2 differen't blocks so the results are not comparable in the slightest. That's why the FBI came up with the 10% protein based gelatin with a specific density so that every bullet fired into blocks can be compared with results from other bullets with some degree of correlation.
@connerm4850
@connerm4850 5 ай бұрын
🙄🙄🙄
@PatriotPaulUSA
@PatriotPaulUSA 2 жыл бұрын
Way cool video. Thanks for all the work you did to make it. Its so great to have real world data we can point to and make comparisons.
@johnbaldwin351
@johnbaldwin351 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I hunt with a Barrett Fieldcraft in 6.5 creedmoor, currently shooting Hornady eldx 143 grain
@peterm.eggers520
@peterm.eggers520 2 жыл бұрын
The wife's commentary was a nice addition to the entertainment value!
@michaelsteyn1822
@michaelsteyn1822 2 жыл бұрын
Shot a Eland bull at 631 yards in South Africa about 2 weeks ago with my 6.5 PRC with a 143gr Norma Bondstrike @ 2970fps. It passed right through the Eland on a broadside shot. Can send you photos of the wound channel
@randyemenhiser2573
@randyemenhiser2573 2 жыл бұрын
Since when is the typical distance 1,500 yards?
@backfire
@backfire 2 жыл бұрын
What? Who said that was the typical distance?
@stevepirie8130
@stevepirie8130 2 жыл бұрын
0:10
@goldfinger379
@goldfinger379 2 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here. Great content. Videos aren't forever long of pointless lip smacking. Great enthusiasm and very relevant. Keep up the good work!
@goldfinger379
@goldfinger379 2 жыл бұрын
@Text ①⑦③④②①⑨④⓪⑧④ not exactly sure lol
@RichardCranium321
@RichardCranium321 2 жыл бұрын
I think the 6.5 Creedmoor would be adequate for most game in North America (aside from Bison, Musk Ox, Moose, & coastal Brown/Grizzly Bears) as long as you're taking a shot inside of 250 yards. That's the furthest distance I'd consider an ethical shot anyway, even for something as powerful as 300WM
@twistednixon2911
@twistednixon2911 2 жыл бұрын
Hornady has a big smile on their face with those ELD-Xs opening up and then passing right through the gel....
@rogeliofloresjr
@rogeliofloresjr 2 жыл бұрын
I like your video My only observation would be that “one bullet lost his jacket even at that distance “ I have my doubts about using ELDX’s in my next hunt. Same reason I don’t use Sierra Game King any more. Thanks for your research, it’s very helpful.
@bruceatwell6031
@bruceatwell6031 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of work went into making that vid, thank you for it, I really enjoyed it.
@ericb.4358
@ericb.4358 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! Your efforts are greatly appreciated B/C I use 6.5 PRC Hornady ELD-X ammo for hunting. I have a 6.5 CM Ruger Precision Rifle for long range (to 1,100 yards) competition and a 6.5 PRC Browning X-Bolt Pro for hunting here in Nevada. This year I've got a Nevada antelope tag and I'm using the 6.5 PRC because I may have to shoot out to 800+ yards on those very wary critters. My scope is a Bushnell Elite LRTS 4.5 - 18 x 44 with a G3 illuminated "small Xmas tree" reticle so I don't have to dial. I use a larger H-59 Xmas tree reticle in my competition scope so I'm used to holding on the hash marks instead of dialing. (Did I mention I DON'T DIAL?;o) BTW. I will use my hiking poles with the Quick stiX bipod joint which I have found greatly helps with accuracy. Weisner Industries makes this great mechanism which weighs only about 3 or 4 ounces. What an innovative piece of hunting gear!
@therocksac
@therocksac 2 жыл бұрын
Please do more long range ballistic blocks. In different calibers. Great vid!
@michaelpawluk6791
@michaelpawluk6791 2 жыл бұрын
I love my 6.5CM I just don't love buying ammo for it
@andy347495
@andy347495 2 жыл бұрын
14.5 moa for 600 yds? My 308 with a 185 berger juggernaut takes 13 moa at 900' elevation. Looking like the 308 out performs the creedmoor😜
@kylespirk306
@kylespirk306 22 күн бұрын
So 6.5 PRC is better at range, better ballistic, more penetrating power? 6.5 PRC also work with same rifle and suppressors as 6.5CM?
@DisgustedGenXr
@DisgustedGenXr 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Ive heard 6.5 hit 1/2” steel at 200 ( at the 200 yrd line) and it hits super hard. Im not surprised that it sailed through that gel at 600
@Vikingwerk
@Vikingwerk 2 жыл бұрын
I shot 6.5 creedmoor at a 1/2 mild steel plate at 300 yards and it damn near penetrated it. Left a full 1/2 tall bubble sticking out the back of the plate. That little round is booking it.
@DisgustedGenXr
@DisgustedGenXr 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vikingwerk yup. A couple guys were out at my range and I was at the opposite end (pistol range 1). The rifle range runs down the backside of 7 bays @ 200yds. They Had very nice stuff. .308,6.5-suppressor clad & a 6.8. All hit had but he had hand loaded 140gn hpbt 6.5 loaded right on the brink we’re definitely humming along
@johnnyrc9304
@johnnyrc9304 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, and I get the excitement. If you would like…. I guess I’ll say a Second Opinion, the Barbour Creek shooting school channel does lots of tests similar to this one with a LOT of different bullets. Plus they do things like put hide and bone in front of the gel. All interesting data from you both. Cheers.
@JamesWalker-ng1qh
@JamesWalker-ng1qh 2 жыл бұрын
Well done, Sir. The shooting, the footage, the test, everything.
@cowymccowface6332
@cowymccowface6332 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive, also this channel is the best you guys do some great stuff
@aubreyroche5080
@aubreyroche5080 9 ай бұрын
and , I ironically enough I am working through the details of acquiring a 6.5 PRC... unfortunately we have a Rule in my house, Her Rule actually, LOL... of not buying expensive gifts for ourselves just before Christmas ... I did buy the Hornady Dies and a box of 147gr ELD though.
@mdionisi7
@mdionisi7 Жыл бұрын
Hello gentleman I want to ask you a question. I have a Sig Sauer Cross 6.5 Crededmoor, I would like to have 2 calibers in the same rifle, 6.5 and the 308, changing the barrel. It is possible that the Sig Sauer Cross is MULTICALIBER THANK YOU.
@nukedvalleyape5675
@nukedvalleyape5675 2 ай бұрын
I’ve taken half a dozen bull elk and 4 bear with my 6.5 CM most with 1 shot. Usually don’t get a full pass through but it dumps all the energy into the animal with devastating results. 6.5CM is highly underrated.
@michaellewis5624
@michaellewis5624 2 ай бұрын
All that being said, it's just my opinion that shooting game past 500 yards is unethical except for the most experienced 1% of shooters. 99% of hunters can't make ethical shots even past 300 yards! At these extreme ranges there are just too much room for error! I'm in a large shooting club and a large hunting club. I go most every weekend and a day or two during the week. I see these young bucks who are over confident and just unrealistic in their abilities! They have $5000.00 + rigs and do fine out to around 400 then you can hear the air leaving their swollen up heads when shooting further. Keep the shots reasonable, the animals deserve better, we should be better people.
@curtisegill1550
@curtisegill1550 2 жыл бұрын
This is what I'm talking about!! We need more of this. At least 100yd tests on ballistic gel with long rifles. However get some real bullets, Some old school Americana. Nobody really cares about you're designer rounds. .308/30-06/30-30/ ide love to see 7.63x39 myself. This is a Great idea! But plz use some more common rounds.
@cappycase2511
@cappycase2511 7 ай бұрын
I Remember as a kid hearing you needed a 300wm for anything out to 600yds. 400YDS for sheep is about mormal w 600 extreme. If I had both I'd consider myself well equipped.
@GoranG-v9r
@GoranG-v9r 11 ай бұрын
People knock the 6.5 Creed... but that penetration is awesome, at 300-400yd you could easily take down larger game... btw, great shooting..!
@amazinkay4512
@amazinkay4512 Жыл бұрын
This is wgy all US weapons shooting 7.62 NATO should be rechambered for 6 5 creedmoor. Its simply a more accurate round at range and allows shooters to beedbless adjustment for wind drift due to high BC bullets. 30 cakiber shines when you get into the 178 gr abd above bullets.
@mrmatt7210
@mrmatt7210 Жыл бұрын
Rather surprised to see how well a 6.5 Creedmoor can penetrate at 600 yards with a bullet performance of less than published velocities. ( re: 2600fps from a short barreled rifle). To say the least, 20"+ is very respectful from a rifle which is underperforming, and I wonder how much penetration could be possible from a longer barreled rifle delivering a velocity closer to the manufacturers advertised velocity. I would love to see this test repeated with the gelatin placed end to end to determine the actual penetration of this bullet. Ps: I'm not sure it was mentioned, but I'm assuming your using the 143gr eldx. To say the least, if this level of performance is capable at 600yrds from a 2600fps 6.5 creedmoor, I would have no problem hunting much larger game than deer at 500yrds. To be clear, this bullet with a muzzle velocity approaching 2700fps should have almost 1300ft/lbs of energy at 500yrds which is plenty for elk sized game.
@280Ackley
@280Ackley Жыл бұрын
We tested 143gr ELDX from a Creedmoor through a Tikka 24+ inch bbl. Only getting 2550 fps 10 ft away. Hornady doesn't do the best on the box at being very honest.
@jkoozer2
@jkoozer2 2 жыл бұрын
That my friends is why I just bought a 6.5 Creed. Disabled and can’t shoot the 30-30 or 30-06 anymore. Hope the Creedmoor will take care of the herd of wild elephants in my back yard here in NW Wisconsin,lmbo.
@cliffdunning9296
@cliffdunning9296 8 ай бұрын
ELD-x 143 grains performs great on whitetails and contrary to the bashers it does not fragment or blow-up at shorter ranges. Since I started using my 6.5CM with the Eld-X ammo 4 seasons ago I have taken 8 mature northern whitetails at rangers from 60 to 120 yards and the bullet has performed flawlessly resulting in 1 to 2 inch exit holes all shot through the chest and a 25 to 50 yard death run with a great blood trails (with the bonus of no noticeable recoil).
@mryang3644
@mryang3644 2 жыл бұрын
We all know u a PRC fanboy....must use a less impressive round to go up against. NoBrainerd...... Try at least something more comparable like a 6.5 Saum
@evenhenderson4940
@evenhenderson4940 10 ай бұрын
I love your Chanel!! That was a great experiment!! I’d like to see the difference between 6.5 Creedmoor and 308 at that distance!!
@nozrep
@nozrep 7 ай бұрын
i do not think many folks even know the difference between why an instrument might have -graph or -meter as the suffix at the end of the word anymore. 😅Well maybe they do. But I don’t! I’ma starting saying thermograph and barograph instead of thermometer and barometer. See what people say. Seriously though I don’t know the difference. I shall google to check, I suppose.
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