6,7,8 "Can’t Lose" Craps Strategy

[@D.McNulty]

Hey I want to say thank you. Because of your videos, I finally had the courage to approach a table. For the most part I stayed with the 6&8. I was able to turn $260 into $725. 😅

[@OnPointCraps]

Awesome! I appreciate the kind words. I am glad I helped you get to the tables. Congrats on the win. Now you have been bit by the bug. Play with discipline and expect not to win them all. Good luck at the tables and spread the word to your friends.

[@brucevolk9729]

As with any DP and DC system getting your bets on a box number is where it can break down quickly. If you can get any don’t bet on a box number you are in a no lose situation. Getting past the come out roll is where things are tricky. I would suggest putting up a 60$ no 5 or no 9 on the come out roll and immediately take it down when a point is set. Still exposed but 6 losing numbers vs 8. A 4$ yo is optional taking the losers down to 4 but the yo can be a heavy tax over the session but it only takes a couple yos to overcome that and also you have snake eyes and the 2-3’s going in your favor to overcome the tax.

[@snoop_diggity_dogg6059]

@@brucevolk9729 - You cannot 'overcome the tax'. That's why they designed the game this way - to make people think they can. = $$$

[@epiclegendaryking332]

About to go at 12am

[@christophercharleshoward5435]

😂​@@OnPointCraps

[@someoneelse6934]

Great strategy and I can confirm it works IRL. one modification I do… on the come out roll, I place a $1 hop bet on the numbers I don’t want to see 1/6 3/4 2/5 5/6. This $4 hedge pays $15 in the event that a 7 or 11 is rolled. It lessens the loss of the $30 a bit just long enough to set a point. Also if the point is a 4 or a 10, I will add $24 to the DC as it’s much ore likely to roll a 7 than a 4 or 10. I’ve had great luck with this. I do take down bets after they’ve hit a couple times each.

[@OnPointCraps]

Ooh. I like that variation. I may give it a try.

[@jamesfraser7394]

Maybe also cover the 6/6 that you don't want to see. ;)

[@OnPointCraps]

@@jamesfraser7394 I wouldn't mind seeing the 6/6. It is barred, so now harm/no foul with a push.

[@alexrosenblum9106]

What do you do when the point is a 5, 6, 8, 9

[@itzamia]

@@alexrosenblum9106 I would just play the DP against the point. You can't lose no matter what once you've got to that setup, and either you'll win a little or push.

[@brandonmorocco]

This is my go-to strategy. I press and build my place numbers all the way across as I get profit, it's super fun and it allows me to play for a long time!

[@OnPointCraps]

Agreed. It is hard to hit a home-run, but it is a great way to build comp.

[@itzamia]

@@OnPointCraps Walking out with 200 in winnings is a Home Run.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@itzamia I agree. I got very fortunate with these rolls.

[@37rainman24]

And if you've actually played this game, you're behind . Don't believe it?, play on! keep honest records

[@unplugandplay9318]

I've always looked for a way to ride out a cold table and I think this is it. Thank you...can't wait to try it on my next trip!

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks for the comment. Good luck. I hope it works for you!!

[@Vprophet]

I just came across this video. Very interesting as i am new to game. I'll definitely give this strategy a try. Thanks for a great video!

[@OnPointCraps]

@@Vprophet glad you liked it. Thanks for the comment. Remember, no strategy is perfect but this can keep you at the table with minimal risk.

[@John-fl1ls]

Thanks for this video! This seems like a great way to learn a new table: how the table bounces, and how to hit what you want for landing zone. I believe I can use this on every new table. I’ll play until I get ready to play my money makers. Thanks again great job.

[@OnPointCraps]

Definitely a good way to start. Adjust bets as you see fit. If you can read a table you will do well. Thanks for the support.

[@IMove2Earn]

What are your money makers?

[@worfdax]

I used this system in Vegas last August and walked away a winner!

[@OnPointCraps]

Always good to hear that! Congratulations. Thanks for watching.

[@ThePepperfly]

7/11 on the CO is a killer. A $3 Yo on the CO could be a good DC hedge to take the 11 away. Also sucks when the point is a 6 or 8. In that case, I place the point 6/8 with enough to cover the DP, then make a new DC bet to get it on a better outside number. E.g., $40 DP, point is 6, so $36 Place 6 ($30 if you're OK risking only $5), then $40 DC, DC moves to, say, the 5, then $18 Place 8 and $20 Place 5. I like to collect the first hit (or two) so that I can make my DP/DC more valuable, then I half press. Good vid. Thanks!

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks for the comment. All good advice. There a are holes in this strategy but you did a great job of pointing out how to plug some of them. You have to be careful not to hedge yourself out of winning anything.

[@bluemoon2934]

I would put 60$ dont pass…..15$ any 7 on the comeout……And then place the 6-8 with 30$ each….135$ layout…..1350 for 10 shooters …And if a 6-8 was the point I’d place either the 5 or 9 with $30…..The 15$ any 7 bet would be made up for from the extra payout amounts on the placed numbers…..Any time you got at least 1 hit on a place number and then 7 out would make a good profit…Any time you make 2 place numbers and then a 7 out would put you way ahead …..Any time you have two hits on place numbers you’d take those bets down and just leave the dont pass bet …..

[@OnPointCraps]

Good strategy. If you have that starting bankroll then I say go for it.

[@snoop_diggity_dogg6059]

They LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE the people with the $15 any 7 bets. That's one reason the hotel attached to the casino is 50 stories high and the owner has a condo at 111 W. 57th St. in Manhattan.

[@pyronoid3738]

If the point lands on 6 or 8 do you just not bet on the come bet for those?

[@OnPointCraps]

If the point becomes the 6 or 8, I will typically just place bet the next outside number. Either the 5 or 9 respectively.

[@pyronoid3738]

@@OnPointCraps oh ok thank you so much. I’m still very new to craps.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@pyronoid3738 no worries. We were all beginners once.

[@58jpimj09kjm]

I enjoyed your video very much. Can this strategy be used for Bubble Craps?

[@OnPointCraps]

Absolutely! $6 Don’t pass and $3 each on 6&8

[@58jpimj09kjm]

​@@OnPointCraps Thanks for replying. I saw that people were asking the same question over and over again. Maybe put that tidbit in the video description? Loving your videos!

[@OnPointCraps]

@@58jpimj09kjm thanks. I appreciate the advice. I probably should edit the description to cover some of the frequently asked questions.

[@toddrunyon]

The Dice Dominator said in one of his training sessions something very appropriate to the early parts of his video. "The key to winning more is to lose less." Sounds obvious but the first four rolls proved the simplicity of that statement. Many people (including me) will often put Place bets on all the numbers immediately after the Come Out roll which would have resulted in a $300 loss.

[@OnPointCraps]

Sound advice. The 7 will come. The only other hole in the strategy is the come out 7 but I don't like to try to hedge that. Once on point, the odds are in your favor to win something.

[@skinovtheperineum1208]

Then do this: Spread your bets out across the numbers BEFORE the Comeout. Don't forget to buy the 4 and 10. Don't work the bets on the Comeout. This way, the extra seconds taken to set up your bets will change the stream of time and there will not be a 2nd roll seven-out.

[@HERSH-777]

@@skinovtheperineum1208 “this was the extra seconds will not change the stream of time” DUDE…WTF Does that mean?

[@jamesfraser7394]

@@snakeeyeswins1 I hang out and practice with one of the Team Rosebud shooters. Keep practicing.

[@swinn848]

Still new but love craps. I’ve played the arnold, pass + odd, and this strategy. Even as a beginner I’ve done well. Especially for the entertainment. People do get mad when you walk up on the dont pass though

[@OnPointCraps]

@@swinn848 thanks for the comment. It’s true that people don’t like the don’t pass. However, if you were quiet and take your wins without celebrating, most people will forget that you’re playing DP and it’s not a big deal.

[@codymumbower2886]

I am very new to craps. I’ve only played what I just learned to be bubble craps and lost my butt learning following a friend… What do you suggest for don’t pass and 6/8 bet on a $5 minimum with day $100 to play with? I really like this strategy. Thanks for such a great video.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@codymumbower2886 if all bets need to be $5, I would do $10 on DP and $5 each on 6&8.

[@codymumbower2886]

@ that’s what I was thinkin. I read to get an even payout it needs to be $6 on the 6/8 so I presume a $12 DP would be the best for that right?

[@OnPointCraps]

@ correct, but on bubble craps you should be able to make a $5 place bet in 6&8. A win is a win! The only downside is that you only have 5 bullets in your gun. $200 would be the minimum bankroll I would try for.

[@codymumbower2886]

@ thank you for all the advice. Good point. I never go gambling so I’ll just take $200 and give it a shot.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@codymumbower2886 anytime.

[@taxpayment1]

Got a question. So if we play the dont pass, and we're sticking to this rule of 678. Lets say the point actually happens to be a 6 or 8, which are the numbers we're betting 18 and 18 with. If the dice roll 8 we win that 8, but lose on the dont pass bet correct? so if we're betting $40 on dont pass but win the 8 we're still losing money. If you wouldnt mind helping me understand im sorry.

[@OnPointCraps]

In that situation you will have a net negative, but you have hedged your loss. You can then play the next shooter without a Pass/Don’t Pass and you are betting on them with nothing additional taken from your bankroll. Additionally, if you are getting shooters with repeat hits on the point, you can shift bet off 6/8 to the 5/9. I hope that helps a little.

[@brandonamundson1150]

Would it make sense to play the pass line too? That way you avoid the 7 on the come out roll?

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks for commenting. That is a dooey don’t. It kind of defeats the strategy as the strength comes in winning the don’t when the 7 eventually comes. It does hedge the come out but does no good after that. I hope that makes sense.

[@itzamia]

@brandonmundson You're cancelling out the bets with a chance of a number wiping out one of your pass/don't pass bets before a point is established.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@itzamia exactly!

[@ScottHooper-vr2mh]

Can you back up your bet on a don’t pass bet? The same as a regular pass bet?

[@OnPointCraps]

Do you mean put odds on it? Yes, but they pay in reverse. 4/10 pay 1:2, 5/9 pays 2:3, 6/8 pays 5:6

[@michaeldequatro1012]

Great video Mike. I'm going to try it next time. The only problem for me is that I hate the Don't Pass line for I feel the shooters think I'm rooting against them, but I know it's the right bet. I just love yelling and clapping when someone makes a point. You have a new subscriber :)

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks Michael. You can bet the DP and still do all the cheering when other box numbers hit. When then 7 hits just silently take your win and pat yourself on the back. Let other players know you are not betting against them, you are all betting against the casino. If you bet DP and someone else bets pass, the casino makes no money.

[@michaeldequatro1012]

@@OnPointCraps I never thought of it that way, and thank you for getting back to me so quickly. Some people don't get back at all.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@michaeldequatro1012 no problem. It is my pleasure. I try to answer every comment.

[@jhf444]

Who cares what other people think, your there to win money, period! You are not taking there money when someone 7s out, the casino is...

[@OnPointCraps]

@@jhf444 Very true. Other players can make for a miserable time if they keep making comments thought. Fortunately I have never had someone say anything to me but I have been asked why I was playing the don’t.

[@johnnyquick7128]

Why bet the full $40 on the don’t pass line during the come out roll? That is just asking for a 7 or an 11 on the come out. Why not start out with a $5 bet during the come out roll, and then once the point is established, added a $25 odds bet to the don’t pass line? A 7 with that odds combination will yield $5 for the original $5 bet, and about $37 for the $25 odds bet, for a total of $42. I like to make the odds bet an even $30, and that yields $45 plus the original $5, for a total of $50.

[@OnPointCraps]

Actually, that is actually a very fair point that I never considered.

[@johnnyquick7128]

@@OnPointCraps I’m just a fresh set of eyes. I still have a lot to learn. Thank you for the video.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@johnnyquick7128 No problem. I appreciate the comment. Sometimes a fresh set of eyes is the key to success.

[@williamhoudersheldt7076]

@@johnnyquick7128 Don't you have to risk more to win less on the DP odds (depending on the number)? Meaning, the amount won is always less than the amount bet on the DP odds.

[@1jignorthwest374]

Nice man! how bout playing Netherlands for the first shoot, then take down the pass line bet and place the six and eight?

[@OnPointCraps]

The reason to play the Don't Pass is that the 7 will eventually roll. You are hoping to capitalize on the next two strongest numbers and hit the 6&8 before the 7 comes. If you take down the Don't Pass, you lose whatever you are betting on the 6&8.

[@phxsun2001tony]

This may be a good system to cash out Bonus chips. I won a BJ Tournament in Vegas and awarded about $35,000 chips. I played craps using theose chip. They are 100, 500 and 1000 chips. If I win $100 on a passline bet, they give me a regular black chip. In the process of playing the $35,000 Bonus chips, I did not have a lot of luck and lost about $7,000. I was just playing the passline, free odds and place the 6 and 8. I can't bet passline and don't pass at the same time. I am going to use your system to cash out my bonus chips next time. Can you suggest other system for this purpose?

[@OnPointCraps]

That is a great question. Since bonus chips are typically only allowed on passline or don't pass bets, I would bet the DP only. Maybe hedge the comeout roll with a lay bet (4 or 10). Once a point is established, the odds are in your favor.

[@michaeldequatro1012]

I have a question, actually 2. Suppose the point is a 6 or 8. What do you do? Do you still put your money on that number or do you play a 5 or 9? Also, What does the 12 next to the Don't Pass line mean? Do you win on the come out roll? Suppose the Come out roll is a 2 or a 3? Thank you.

[@OnPointCraps]

Great questions Michael. If the point is 6 or 8, you can place the 5 or 9. I would just move to the next outside number. I don't recommend hedging against yourself. The 12 is "barred", hence Don't Pass bar 12. It just means that the 12 is a push. It is how the house maintains it's edge. Lastly, a 2 or 3 on the come out wins on the DP and has no effect on the 6/8. I hope this answers your questions. Feel free to contact me at [e-mail] if you have more.

[@michaeldequatro1012]

@@OnPointCraps Thank you so much

[@OnPointCraps]

@@michaeldequatro1012 No problem. That is what I am here for.

[@georgedomantay191]

Can you bet another $40 on the don’t pass bet by placing it underneath original bet or is this for pass bets only?

[@OnPointCraps]

@@georgedomantay191 you can lay odds on DP. It pays opposite of the pass line 1:2, 2:3, 5:6 on 4/10, 5/9, 6/8 respectively. It is placed next to the DP bet.

[@antonioamato3309]

Awesome clip what’s the opening song called..?

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks. I am not really sure. It is some royalty free song from my video editor (VLLO). I will look and see what the title is.

[@mikepinkerton8346]

Hello...I tired this strategy this evening (1/29/22) with $400 bank roll at Red Hawk Casino outside of Folsom, California. True to the name it worked well! I netted $300 plus tips for the crew in about three hours of table time. During long rolls I wondered whether there would be a good for pressing/regressing and covering the outside numbers that would be compatible with the basic strategy. Any thoughts? Thanks very much! The video was nicely done.

[@OnPointCraps]

Awesome! I am glad to here it worked for you. It can be a grind if you PSO or 6/8 not hitting. Once you hit the 6/8 twice you are in profit. If they hit a 3rd time I would place the point to help hedge the loss on the don’t pass. From there you can start spreading to the numbers of your choice. Hope that helps.

[@mikepinkerton8346]

@@OnPointCraps One other question: What do you think about $10 bet per line for a "Do-we-Don't" for the COR? If the Don't doesn't get wiped out, then lay $30 odds on it and and implement your 6/8 strategy (Would $30 odds be the correct amount for odds bet?). If the "Do" is the winner on the COR, then go with a Right Side strategy. This would seem to eliminate the nasty light side winners on the COR.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@mikepinkerton8346 I will have to think on that and try some different scenarios. My local casinos don't allow a Do-we-Don't so I haven't practiced it. $30 odds bet is a "legal" bet so I can answer that one question for you. I will get back to you once I play around with it a little bit.

[@mikepinkerton8346]

@@OnPointCraps my report on "Do-e-Don't" tweak. I got my lunch eaten for me...! I think I have the amount of odds on the Don't wrong...Have you noodled through this? I'd like the benefit of your thoughts,. please.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@mikepinkerton8346 My first thought is don’t play odds. I am not at odds player on the don’t. I don’t like putting out extra money that wins less than I am putting at risk. When it loses it hurts bad. Haven’t had a chance to try it myself. Give me about a week or so.

[@MetroCollectablesandvlogs]

Does it make sense to do 12 on the 6 and 12 on the 8 and 25 on the dont at 1st? to see how it goes?

[@OnPointCraps]

On a $10 table for sure. This example was just done on a $15 table.

[@joelpecina7448]

Are these strategies applicable to crap machines as well? Or just table

[@OnPointCraps]

If you mean bubble craps, it works too. You can even bet at lower levels then at the table.

[@724riff]

If your expecting that many short rolls , you may wanna play a come bet and capitalize on that also , get a little action also

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks for the comment. I don't expect short rolls, but I acknowledged that they are going to happen. My go to strategy utilizes the Come.

[@KD7ONE]

How effective is this on ETGs?

[@OnPointCraps]

@@KD7ONE great question. It is just as effective as on the real table. The best part about ETG is that they are usually a low minimum so you can play with even less risk.

[@chiefofdc]

What is the protocol when 6 or 8 is the point?

[@OnPointCraps]

@@chiefofdc either hedge against the DP since you will still make a little winnings or I typically just move to the next outside number.

[@marchcc1]

Question: why don’t you add some odds to the don’t pass line following the number being established?

[@OnPointCraps]

@@marchcc1 no particular reason. I just typically don’t take odds. Great question. Mostly it’s a personal choice of not wanting to risk more than i could win.

[@mikekinsella2822]

5:31 You have to place your Don't pass BEFORE you roll the 1st roll . You lose on a 7 or 11 and win on a 2-3 and 12 is a push.Once a point is hit you need to make a 7 before the point. The $40 loss on the 1st roll must be accounted for in the math.

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks for the input Mike. You are correct. The come out roll is the biggest hole in this strategy.

[@mikekinsella2822]

@@OnPointCraps Yep It blows up your bankroll very quick if you lose Three $40 dollar comeouts in a row.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@mikekinsella2822 fortunately that doesn’t happen too often. It does happen though. That’s why it is called gambling.

[@lydellmaribone25]

@@OnPointCraps I play daily in Vegas! Happens all the time! You're misleading the viewers who don't know..especially with only $40!!! You're already betting far outside of the budget rules! Don't listen to this guy!!! Of you have to hide from the "7" at any time,.you don't have a system. Partner with the 7!!.You guys constantly upload videos running from the 7 and as soon as I see it, I know you don't have a winning system. You're right, You're gambling! I go and win daily here in Vegas!!! I'm interested to know where do you guys even live? Are there even casinos where you are because you seem to play more at home with fake money telling other people the wrong ways to play??

[@OnPointCraps]

@@lydellmaribone25 Thank you for the constructive criticism. I live on the east coast and have several casinos near me. Many of the tables are $25 minimum. Finding a strategy that works with an “Everyman” budget is difficult. I am not running from the 7. With a $40 DP, I cannot afford to have the other $36 working during come out due to the strength of the 7. I recently did a video where I utilize a lay bet to shift the risk from the 7 to the 4. It takes a larger bankroll though because if the lay number hits it can be devastating. I am not trying to mislead anyone. I appreciate your insight and would love to see you try your hand at producing some videos so we can see how play.

[@waylonswaycraps]

Nice win brother! Great video

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks man!

[@mikeyap9]

What do to if the DP is hit?

[@OnPointCraps]

@@mikeyap9 if I am up in winnings, i go back on the DP. I won’t let a shooter burn me more than twice though. If I am down, I will just keep the place bets out and play out the shooter. If they start hitting the place bets, I will press or spread out as I feel.

[@squarepair2171]

Good work, Mike! We both subscribed and liked a number of your videos. Also, love the Square Pair at 13:00.

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks!!! I really enjoy your stuff too. I think of you guys every time I hit a hard 8. I think I gave you a shout out in one of my videos. Have to keep the community going.

[@happymangovegan5180]

I’m moving back to Vegas next month and I need to make some cash. You got a new subscriber here. What you think about the bubble craps machine?

[@OnPointCraps]

Welcome, and thanks for the Sub. I have mixed emotions about bubble craps. They are great for the low roller. I prefer to play at the table but minimums are sometimes restrictive. My fear, though, is that if players keep using bubble craps, they will never lower table minimums. They are often $25 here in Maryland.

[@happymangovegan5180]

@@OnPointCraps Wow $25 minimum That’s crazy. A lot of locals casinos in Vegas you will find $5 minimum table. Btw thanks for answering my question. Good luck with your channel. 🎉

[@OnPointCraps]

@@happymangovegan5180 Thanks. I try to answer every question. Good luck in Vegas.

[@zonapirate]

Beginner here. Would playing the don't followed by a Come bet instead of placing protect against the point/seven/out?

[@OnPointCraps]

Yes but that is a completely different strategy. It also sparks a debate about place vs come bets. To see an example of what you are talking about, see one of my Hedgeless Horsemen videos.

[@timmygolfs]

Does this strategy still work if the table is paying 6/5 (instead of 7/6) on numbers 6 and 8 ?

[@OnPointCraps]

Good question. I have never seen that. In theory, yes. I would have to rework the math. You could bet less on the don’t pass

[@timmygolfs]

@@OnPointCraps interesting, I tried a couple online casinos last night and both paid 6/5 on place.

[@gitpa1]

Can you bet the DP after the point has been established?

[@OnPointCraps]

No. It has to be placed prior to the come out roll. I apologize if I placed it later during the video. I know that can cause confusion. If I forgot to place it and rolled a come out 7/11, I would have considered that a loss.

[@barryfitzgerald3839]

What happens if a seven is rolled on the come out ? if the point is hit you loose the don’t pass bet ?

[@OnPointCraps]

You lose the don’t pass in both situations. The strategy relies on hitting the two most likely numbers after the 7 to hit and win your money prior to that. See my video on plugging holes in the 6,7,8 strategy to answer your questions better.

[@theminimalistway9197]

I actually appreciate the unedited ness and mistake in this video keeps it genuine

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks. That means a lot. I hope my newer videos have fewer mistakes as I have more experience. Thanks for the support.

[@Temple201]

What if you if you roll a 6 or 8 on the come-out roll. I noticed that didn't happen in his video.

[@OnPointCraps]

Your choice of how to play. You could just play the other number against the 7. I typically just move to the next outside number i.e. if I roll a 6 I place the bet on the 5.

[@stevedaniels6490]

Can you press your dont pass bet after you have your set number

[@OnPointCraps]

@@stevedaniels6490 not exactly. You can lay odds your bet like the pass line. It pays 1:2, 2:3, and 5:6 for 4/10, 5/9 and 6/8 respectively. The maximum odds you can lay depends on the casino. For an example, a $25 DP with $30 odds would pay $40 total on 4/10, $45 on 5/9 and $50 on 6/8. I hope that helps.

[@stevedaniels6490]

@@OnPointCraps yes thank you

[@OnPointCraps]

No problem, anytime.

[@thomasbarksdale4778]

I'll try this strategy on the 5th of December thanks.

[@OnPointCraps]

Good luck. Post here when you are done and let us know how you did.

[@alaabes]

What happens when you hit the point? Do you lose the don’t pass $40 bet?

[@OnPointCraps]

Yes. If the point gets hit, you will lose the DP. The point of the strategy is that you are betting on the strongest numbers. If 6 or 8 are the point, I bet the next outside number.

[@michaeldequatro1012]

Hey Mike. Just an update for you. I pulled my homemade crap table from the garage and tried your strategy and it worked. I just modified it a little bit. I only put $12 on the 6 & 8, but when I rolled 4 numbers in a row, I increased $6. Also, if the point was 4 or 10, I increased my DP line another $40. Can I do that? Not sure how that works. Anyway, I won $350 yesterday and $500 today. I'll try it out again for a few weeks before I do it live. Thanks again.

[@OnPointCraps]

Awesome! This strategy is just a foundation. You can’t raise your DP bet but you can place odds. It will pay 1:2 on the 4/10 so $40 bet will pay $20. $12 bet works on a $10 table. I showed it at $15 because that’s the minimum bet at most casinos near me.

[@michaeldequatro1012]

@@OnPointCraps Thank you so much again. I'm learning a lot from you.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@michaeldequatro1012 I appreciate that. There is a great craps community on KZbin. There is a lot to be learned and many ways to play. I am glad you like my content.

[@yisselbravo1297]

My husband and I just started using this method before I even watched this video, but we were more into the don't pass bar than betting 6,8 too. But it's true, though I've noticed that my husband is good at getting 6,8s but we were not confident enough to bet on those 2 numbers, but I after watching this video It gave my conformation. We will play this method with confidence now :) thank you

[@OnPointCraps]

Glad you liked it. Thanks for the comment.

[@nedlalley6314]

How exactly do you get "good" at hitting 6 8. Are there people who are bad at it too.

[@mikeys12]

What do you do when the point is 6 or 8? Same bet?

[@OnPointCraps]

You can same bet and hedge the DP or move the bet to the next outside number. Your choice.

[@djgypsymic5593]

figuring out numbers... what if the table bet minimum is $25? and what if I wanted to double or triple the amount?

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks for watching and great question. Start with your 6&8 bet. A correct bet on $25 minimum table would be $30 on each. Cover that with $60 on the DP. From there you can double or triple the bets easily. Make sure you have bankroll for this.

[@djgypsymic5593]

thank you. yes oh of course.

[@djgypsymic5593]

if I buy the 10 for $200 and try to parlay the hard 10 for $200 is there something else I can maybe do to protect my money?

[@OnPointCraps]

@@djgypsymic5593 Not really. You could cover the 11 as that is the only thing that will hurt on the come out. The problem is, It gets to the point where your hedges become a bleed with every roll.

[@chichaboss595]

Do I have to be a shooter to bet on the “come “ and “don’t pass bar” btw love the videos!!

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks for the comments and support. No, you don’t have to be the shooter. By the way, I think I misspoke in this video, it is the Don’t Pass- Bar 12. Good luck at the tables.

[@Iamhallucinatingnow]

Fine strategy only thing I would have changes is branching to the 5 and 9 after the 2nd hit.

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks for the comment. I agree on spreading out. Especially with a good shooter. This video just shows the meat of the strategy. Add what works for you.

[@tsfurlan]

How much money would you Have made if you would just put a put 40 on the pass line with all those 7.s

[@OnPointCraps]

@@tsfurlan that’s why it is called gambling.

[@billcollins4654]

What do you do when the don't pass point is 6 or 8?

[@OnPointCraps]

I typically just move the bet to the next outside number. 5 for 6 and 9 for 8. Alternately you can keep it. It will just minimize winnings.

[@Brandon-m9s9h]

How would you bet if it’s $5 table

[@OnPointCraps]

@@Brandon-m9s9h $10 or $12 Don’t Pass, $6 each on the 6&8

[@familygaming716]

Can I bet more than that ? Are is it part of the strategy

[@OnPointCraps]

You can bet what your bankroll allows. Just keep the ratio the same so that you cover the 6&8 with the DP.

[@MichaelJamesActually]

How does it affect your EV if you also buy/place whatever number comes up point?

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks for the question. I am not sure exactly how to answer it. There is a lot of statistics math that goes into it that I am not an expert at. It depends on the number. The strategy relies on betting the 3 strongest numbers. Let’s say you hit the 10 as the point. That is a 2:1 disadvantage against the 7. If you place the 10 and 7 comes, you are no longer making profit on a 7 out. It does increase your spread and if the number hits only once, then you are ahead again. I hope that helps.

[@MichaelJamesActually]

@@OnPointCraps very true. Idk if a casino would even let you do that. seems like you're really mitigating your losses in that scenario, and they may not be in favor of it.

[@discordillusions6058]

Maybe you said something and I missed it - what would you do if the point ended up being 6 or 8?

[@OnPointCraps]

@@discordillusions6058 I would either move it to the next outside number or keep it as a hedge for if the point hits. Neither option is wrong.

[@John_knee80]

7 or 11 on come out hurts this strategy. What to do when point is 6 or 8? Also if point is 6 or 8 maybe take down your don't pass bet?

[@OnPointCraps]

You are correct. I have another video addressing the come out 7. If 6 or 8, I either leave it off or move to the next outside number. I would never take down don’t pass.

[@John_knee80]

@@OnPointCraps thank you for your response! I'll check out your other videos

[@OnPointCraps]

@@John_knee80 Awesome, thanks.

[@harrylove]

Great video and strategy. I get caught up once I get to the table and this is a great way to stay disciplined. Thanks

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks for the comment. I am glad you liked it. Remaining disciplined is key at the table. This strategy can be a bit of a grind, but sometimes it is not how much you win, but how much you can avoid losing.

[@MF_Zurg]

What if the point is a 6 or 8?

[@OnPointCraps]

@@MF_Zurg I shift it to the next outside number.

[@djbthunder]

You guys starting to show great DO strategies. Nice work

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks. I play a hybrid strategy at the table. I lean toward Don’t strategies it if the table is trending right, you have to have a light side strategy.

[@Mr.Caring]

? Why not work 6/8 on the comeout, and what do you do if the point is a six or eight?

[@OnPointCraps]

Just personal preference. I haven’t logged rolls to prove it but I feel I got burned on come out 7 a lot. If point is 6/8 I place bet on next outside number.

[@Richiehd]

Yeah great idea except rolling a 7 on the comeout is the killer. Four sevens on the come out roll pretty much wiped out $160. of my bankroll. It went down from there.

[@OnPointCraps]

Yikes! That is an abnormality but it does happen. There ways to plug that hole (I have another video on it) but it opens up another potential gap. There is no perfect strategy.

[@old7PSO]

Point Established and then a 7-out occurs mathematically 16.67% of the time -- Each roll is independent and it is impossible for the 7 to magically show up an extra 12 % of the time just because the previous roll established a point. Now, with that said, bets are resolved after 2 rolls approximately 28.1% . 16.7% of the time you 7-out and 11.4+% of the time you make the point - ie N then 7 = 16.7% and N then same N = 11.4+% . The N then same N will vary based on the Point Established.

[@OnPointCraps]

I have seen Pro Craps' 1,000,000 roll statistics that show the 28%. This strategy works will with a PSO, it is just a slow grind.

[@old7PSO]

@@OnPointCraps Explain the magic to me it ain't in the math. PS -- Don't believe everything you see on the internet -- be happy to send you the math

[@OnPointCraps]

@@old7PSO No magic. It is just the percentages that showed up after 1,000,000 rolls on win craps. After 10,000,000 the percentage may drop. Regardless, the probability of rolling a 7 is always greater than the probability of rolling a point so the odds are in your favor. You just have to beat the come out roll. Please send me the math. I think I understand, but maybe seeing the numbers will help. Thanks for the input.

[@old7PSO]

@@OnPointCraps OK, then start tracking your rolls for PSO and let me know if you are above 17% after 1000 resolved points -- Trust but verify.

[@hulenbryant5637]

OLD #7 is correct. Every roll of the dice is an independent event. There are 6 ways to roll a 7 out of 36 possible outcomes. 6 / 36 = 16.67 % no matter how you slice it. It’s the same as not having your place bets working on the come out roll. Mathematically speaking, it’s no different than any other roll and there’s no advantage to it other than keeping your money a little longer. It would be the same as calling all of your bets off in the middle of a roll. That being said, this looks like a pretty good money Mgmt system. I think I might try it my next trip to the table.

[@classifiedsincebirth]

what do you do when the point is 6 or 8?

[@OnPointCraps]

Great question. I typically place the neighboring number. It actually cost less, but less probability to hit the number. You could also keep the 6/8 and put a bet on the hard way of the point. A $5 bet will make up for the loss on the don’t pass, but if the number comes east you are out an extra $5. If bankroll is limited then I wouldn’t put any more money out.

[@nathangrandmasterk9760]

I have a table at home. I'm going to test this strategy now

[@OnPointCraps]

@@nathangrandmasterk9760 Awesome! Let us know how it turns out.

[@nathangrandmasterk9760]

The results of the test are as follows: I simulated three different shooting styles and went through the first three shooters. The results were 1 win and 2 losses for minus $60. I then extended the system out to simulate Ten shooters. In total went 5 wins and 5 losses for minus $72. I would conclude that the system as is now, would loose due to many first roll 7's and 11's. All is not lost however! I modified the system to Martingale the Dont Pass. As long as the shooter didn't make more than 4 Frontline winners in a row, the system would win. In this test, using $500 starting chips, the system WON 10 out of 10.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@nathangrandmasterk9760 interesting. Like I say, the dice will tell the story. If come out 7s happen a lot then it can hurt. I will have to look at the ratio of come out 7 vs PSO.

[@stevevets]

Does this work for a 25 dollar table?

[@OnPointCraps]

As well as any other minimum. For $25, you will need a $60 DP and $30 each on the 6&8

[@stevevets]

I was playing a 15 dollar table with a 30 dollar DP and 15 each on the 6 and 8. Is that recommended?

[@OnPointCraps]

@@stevevets that works if they let you place $15

[@stevevets]

They did!

[@OnPointCraps]

I have found that many will let you do it, but most either won't or at least prompt you to make a "right bet"

[@markh8637]

as well as hitting the point # and losing you can also loose on the don't during the come out roll if you hit an 7 or 11 on your first throw, but can win with 2 or 3, you could even edge the point # if you wanted, but i do like this strategy.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@markh8637 thanks for the comment. You are correct on all points. I typically don’t hedge due to it being a slow bleed.

[@johnhensley6808]

Absolutely, engaging..looking forward to seeing how you take this further..

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks John. I appreciate the comment.

[@renodangle]

What do you do when the point is 6 or 8? You can’t make a place bet on the point.

[@OnPointCraps]

You can bet the 6 or 8 but it hedges your DP. I typically just move to the next outside number.

[@JK-hb1mx]

What if the point is on 6 or 8?

[@OnPointCraps]

I just move it to the next outside number.

[@willschuster7175]

Why no odds on the Don't?

[@OnPointCraps]

@@willschuster7175 odds are another video. I typically don’t play odds when I’m at the table, so I didn’t show it here. There is nothing wrong with laying on the do if that is your playing style.

[@MoMoandGoliath]

I like the strategy but would it be more profitable if you play the pass line instead of the don’t pass line.? Please reply

[@OnPointCraps]

Hello Napoleon. That depends on the dice. If the.point hits then yes. You get paid on the pass line whereas here you lose. This strategy banks in the fact that everyone inevitably hits the 7. As long as the 7 hits before the point, you will make money.

[@InnerGetic5746]

Can you bet more on the six and eight and don’t pass? Or that defeats the purpose?

[@OnPointCraps]

You can bet more. It all depends on your bankroll. My videos cater to the “Everyman” with a lower bankroll. That is the only reason I went with that bet size.

[@InnerGetic5746]

@@OnPointCraps Cool! Thanks! Love the vids!

[@OnPointCraps]

@@InnerGetic5746 I really appreciate that. It is my pleasure.

[@rooksbaby4169]

What happens if the point is a 6 or an 8 what do you do?

[@OnPointCraps]

If point is 6 or 8 I typically just move to the next outside number 5 or 9 respectively.

[@sn1291]

and if the blocked number is one of the 3 most common numbers (6 and 8)?

[@OnPointCraps]

Great question. I address it in the video. You simply place the next outside number. The 5 or 9 respectively.

[@usurur]

This strategy I use with a progression on the 6 ,8.if the shooter doesn’t throw the six or eight then I increase 30 percent each time he 7 out until it’s thrown then pull back. This is very effective.

[@OnPointCraps]

Any progression strategy is good as long as you have the bankroll. I will try it out and see how it works.

[@herbertlong3981]

@@OnPointCraps Actually NO progression strategy works no matter what your bankroll. You are hired to drum up business for the casino industry, arent you? Lets be honest. No one could be as ignorant as you appear to be

[@gregsavchuk3239]

Interesting strategy, however, the Pass/Don't Pass bet has to be placed b4 the come out. An Any7 bet might be an interesting hedge once the point is made to protect against the PSO. The Don't Pass w/ Odds 'House Edge' is 1.36%, the absolute least of any craps bet & a bet that is killer on cold tables...

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks for the comment. I know the DP needs to be net first. I think I messed it up in the beginning due to everything going on and this was one of my first videos.

[@caseydavis6935]

How do you play this strategy on after a 7 or 11 is rolled before the point is established ?

[@OnPointCraps]

That is one of the weaknesses in this strategy. Either same bet on a new come out or you could try to minimize the loss and just play 6/8 once point is established.

[@blick5815]

Here is my question as a new player: Do the amounts really matter? This says he is playing on a $10 Table……when I went to the casino they only $25 Tables. Can you still use this strategy and just play with the larger amounts? Instead of $40 Don’t Pass and $18 can the numbers just be higher and proportional?

[@OnPointCraps]

@@blick5815 great question! The amounts matter for a few different reasons. Firstly, with the higher table minimums, you need a larger bankroll to play. Secondly, with lower table minimums, you were able to do more with your money, such as regression strategies. If you have the bankroll to play, the strategy can be scaled For higher table minimums.

[@blick5815]

@@OnPointCraps thank you! The need for a larger bankroll was implied and obvious. But past that the larger $amounts did not change the tactics and how to play. I had $300 and played for about 2 hours before it was gone, as a first time beginner it was educational and your videos helped.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@blick5815 Thanks, I am glad I could help. Tactics don't change significantly. I created my channel to cater to the newer player or player with just a little extra cash they want to try and gamble. Things do change with higher bank roll. At the $10 table, I wouldn't hedge the comeout roll against the 7&11 but if I was playing at the $60 level on a $25 table, I probably would hedge. due to the potential loss. Just things to think about. 2 hours is a decent time to be at the table. The longer you are there, the more likely you are to lose. The house always has the edge. They hardest part about craps is walking away when you are up. Even if it is only a few dollars.

[@blick5815]

@@OnPointCraps You describe my situation exactly, new player willing to try and with some cash to play with. I've watched craps from a distance for years and had no clue but after watching a bunch of your videos I was comfortable enough to enjoy myself. I will go back and try again.....one of the long-term tactics just to get used to what is going on. I will say, watching the videos is different than when there are multiple players and things going on.......more focus needed to understand and track..... But thank you for the good content and I'll keep at it

[@OnPointCraps]

@@blick5815 I am glad I helped give you the confidence to play. Real table play certainly is different than the videos. The best way to learn is to get out there. You will start to learn to read tables and get a feel for how to bet. Ultimately it is gambling and there is no guarantee to win, but there are definitely safer ways to play.

[@twostate7822]

Every bet you make at craps is a losing bet, except for taking odds after making a point which is exactly even odds. As noted in the video, place bets for 6 and 8 pay 7 to 6. However, they should pay 6 to 5 if it was an exactly even odds bet. The difference in payout is the house take on that bet. Making various other bets are all losing bets as far as house advantage goes.

[@OnPointCraps]

All true. This is how the casinos stay open. Taking odds pay true, but you have to risk more to get paid more.

[@twostate7822]

@@OnPointCraps Yes, you are risking more but it's the only time the house doesn't have an edge, so take as much in odds as allowed.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@twostate7822 the house edge is low enough for me and I don’t stay at the table long enough for the averages to matter. Odds make the game too volatile for my liking. I appreciate the comments and agree that it is a good way to play.

[@twostate7822]

@@OnPointCraps I'm a poker player, but I enjoy the excitement of a crowded craps table. I don't enjoy the losing 😢 As for volatility, I knew a guy who loved roulette. He would usually have 300+ chips in front of him at any time, and would basically have chips on almost every outcome. He always won something on each roll.

[@OnPointCraps]

I don't think anyone enjoys losing! I have seen some roulette strategies that limit volatility, but I have not look into the game enough.

[@Mr.Caring]

Well done brother

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks. Pleasure chatting with you.

[@covidcigarclub7764]

Can’t u lay the 10 plus play the 6/8 the same time 🤔

[@OnPointCraps]

You most certainly can. That is just potential putting more at risk. When that 10 gets rolled on the come out it really hurts.

[@BarryReitman]

Excellent video. And thank you(!) for telling people that "Can't Lose" is NOT a fact. It's just a name. I'm a poker playing who occasionally relaxes at a crap table. Yup, I know it's a losing game. I think of any losses as entertainment fee.

[@OnPointCraps]

Great way of looking at it. You can win if you are disciplined. I played last weekend and won $600 off of a $300 buy in. It was a grind and I walked away from the table a few times when I was up about $100 and then came back. If I had lost the $300 I would consider it an entertainment fee since my meals and hotel were already comped and I would have spent that much had they not been.

[@double_joseph327]

What happens if the point is 6,8? What do you do if the point hits?

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks for the comment. If 6/8 is hit, you can slide to the next outside box number. Point being hit is a hole in this strategy. You will lose the DP but your 6/8 investment is still good and you can just go with that for the next shooter.

[@wyolife7157]

Good strat. However there are several ways the lose. When I tried it on a simulator, when the point was 6 or 8, It did not work out too well. Those numbers come up so often, you lose the DP bet before your 6 or 8 profits can counter. Before the point is set, if a 7 or 11 come out, you lose. In my sim, I lost quite a bit of money on a come out 7, and also on the point being a 6 or 8. Good concept, but house still has a large edge.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@wyolife7157 true. If the point is six or eight, I typically move it to the five and nine respectively.

[@dbryant2770]

My preference is to play the don't pass straight out. I bet 15 on the don't pass and play at max odds once I get a number. Every time the shooter 7's out I collect $150.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@dbryant2770 Straight up dark side play. Nothing wrong with that.

[@dbryant2770]

@ I live and die by the don't pass. it takes a bigger bankroll to start, but when players start scrapping out you collect extremely fast. A week ago I started with $100 at a table and walked away with $800 profit in 30 minutes. But, the caveat is you can definitely lose big and fast.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@dbryant2770 very true. This game is unforgiving, but so fun to play. I played this weekend and got crushed no matter what side I was on.

[@tbone2859]

Not trolling. Just want to emphasize ,as you said at the end of the video, anyone contemplating trying this that a few 7/11 rolls on the come out or points rolled on the D.C. will do a number on your bankroll that is hard to come back from. Good luck and enjoyed the video. Thank you

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks for the comment. I have another video that addresses this issue. There is no perfect strategy.

[@ltlcorp4488]

I don't know... this system loses for me oftentimes... tried it 4 times at local casino and lost $150-300 in 7 shooters 3 of the 4 times. Come out 7s and making points really hurts and you don't make enough on 6/8 hits to make up the losses.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@ltlcorp4488 thanks for the comment. There are certainly holes in this (and every) strategy. I have a video that discusses some of the possible hedges and ways to fill the holes.

[@JJ-rf7dg]

I may try it. I tried several strategies but failed

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks for the comment. Good luck at the tables. No strategy is failproof, but once you beat the come out with this strategy, you’re betting on the strongest numbers.

[@douglasbrumfield7262]

Start out with a $10 DP then add $30 in odds if the point is favorable.

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks for the comment. That is a possible variant.

[@paulmuller4883]

On Point , Thank you for this video and any craps player of beginning knowledge knows about the DP loss on the 7 or 11 6 ways of 36 (7) and 3 ways of 36 (11) so 9 ways of 36, however there is a win on the come out on the 2 or 3 so you have an edge into that 1 way of 36 (2) and 2 ways of 36 (3) so 3 ways of 36.. My thought is a hedge by hopping the sevens for 2 dollars each or 6 dollar hedge. I realize its a poor player edge as a stand alone with a 15 to 1 payout and house edge of 11.11 % but integrated into the strategy, the Seven then pays 30 dollars less the 4 dollars for the other 2 dollar each bet on the non way Seven hop. That would lessen the complete loss of the Seven on the come out. Then consider a 3 roll following point made and then.take down the placed six and eight regardless of those numbers hitting at all or hitting all 3 rolls. Then leave your DP until point loss or a more likely Seven out win. Always a leak in any strategy but this one I see your working with a house edge of 1.36 percent on the DP and 1.52 percent house edge on the Place 6 and 8 but with a hit and win and run when your up 20 percent or so it seems like a good risk to reward compared to many other strategies.

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks for watching and the excellent comment. I typically do not hedge but you make a good case.

[@dontask4338]

How do you win $45 on your $40 flat Don't?? (4:45 time on video)

[@OnPointCraps]

Good catch. What again. I say $45 but pay myself $40.

[@caseydavis6935]

Do you have a strategy to minimize your risk after a profit point is reached? For instance, since the DC is a contract bet, you obviously cant remove it. So, that only leaves the place bets as options. Is there a profit point where you would turn your place bets off and ride out the DC ? Or maybe move the place bets to odds on the DC ? This is an area, just learning this game, that I am struggling with, especially in a strategy where one winning roll ( for the DC in this case), off sets the two other bets. Still yeilds a $4 profit, but if you could have turned them off, got them out, or moved them to odds, at a certain profit point, you could really realize a nice win off that last roll.

[@OnPointCraps]

The don’t pass is not a contract and you can pull it. However, most everyone will tell you never to pull it. The 7 will show up. If you hit a profit goal, you can pull the place bets and ride out the Don’t. I don’t have a specific point where I do this. You need to feel out the table. Not quantifiable, just the way the table is trending. Hope that helps.

[@jhf444]

You can remove your DC bet or tell the dealer you don't want it to travel to number rolled. I believe it's the come bet you can't remove after it goes to a number...

[@OnPointCraps]

@@jhf444 correct.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@jhf444 you are correct. I misspoke and have taken my lumps for doing so. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@joev.7909]

Tgbhbh

[@billcollins4654]

I see that you back alligator wall isn't set up correctly. There is supposed to be about a two foot flat back wall section in the middle of the table with a mixing bowsl on both sides of that in the corners only. This gives you a flat surface to hit the back wall in the middle of the table. Your table is set up with a continuous curve in your back wall, with no flat back wall area in the middle, which will greatly change what you can toss with your dice.

[@OnPointCraps]

Thanks. I realize it is not to standard. It is the best I can do with what I have. Once I make the big bucks I will buy an actual table. Thanks for supporting me and getting me closer to that goal.

[@timsweet1343]

What the about if u play higher on 6 8 and 7 if u bet higher

[@OnPointCraps]

You just need to keep a similar ratio between 6/7 and the Don’t Pass line. If you bet $30 on the 6/8 then make sure you have a $70 Don’t pass. Once you are in profit you can always press your bets or place additional numbers as well.

[@russhughes9273]

nice strategy, i think i will double it and try laying odds on a 4/10 point.

[@OnPointCraps]

That is an interesting take. You could also lay a 4 or 10 to protect against come out 7. That will hedge one of the holes in the strategy.

[@ronaldmason7053]

I have a simple strategy: the only bets I make are the pass line (with odds) and place the 6 and 8.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@ronaldmason7053 great simple and low cost strategy.

[@momomimi6915]

I like the strategy, I like the $40 Don't Pass hedge and I'm going to add that to my play to see how it might help, but I like to place the 6 and 8 'NO' on the come out roll while playing minimum on the pass line while taking 10x odds on a good point like 6 or 8 and sometimes I'll do the same while placing the 5, 6, 8, and 9 all 'ON' on the come out roll because I don't want to miss winning when I get a good point on the come out instead of Big Red which seems to be the case most of the time if I don't have the place bets turned on. And unless it's a hot table with long rolls I'll take three wins and then just take it all down because Big Red is inevitable. But if there's a lot of hot shooters with long rolls I might press them up and try for six or seven wins then take it all down because Big Red eventually comes and I hate loosing a bunch of pressed bets when that happens. it's conservative paly with the occasional press and hope for six or seven wins. I miss a few additional wins sometimes, but I don't often lose a lot of pressed up place bets to Big Red unless there are a quick PSO's in rapid succession. I don't know why more players don't just take bets down after a few wins because sometimes there are long rolls and everyone plays for those, but more often than not there are three or four rolls and then a PSO. What do you think Mike?

[@OnPointCraps]

Conservative play is good. I am a fan of regression strategies. That way you don’t pull all the money down in case there is a long roller.

[@herbertlong3981]

@@OnPointCraps But again, you have done nothing to reduce House edge. And HE is what you will lose over the long term. Also typically "insurance bets" employ bets with a huge HE I get what you are saying here, but the danger is that people think you have presented a strat that can win overall. You have not. Combining these bets cannot diminish HE one iota Making a clusterf**k of bets just confuses people with clusterf**k minds into believing those bets win overall, or diminish HE overall. They do nothing of the sort. You better be having great fun at this, because you wont make a profit at it

[@darrellnypaver580]

I have been playing craps for 45 years. You are a smart player. Good strategy!

[@herbertlong3981]

@@darrellnypaver580 Why would one spend 45 years playing craps? I hope it was fun, because if you played extensively you lost a pile of money.

[@herbertlong3981]

@@darrellnypaver580 But obviously the best strat would be to play the pass or the dont and put max odds on the bet before making any other bet. FI, the house edge on the pass is 0.326%. The dont is even less. On the other hand, place bets have a huge house edge. a placed 4 has a HE of 6.7%. A placed 5, a HE of 4.0 %. A placed 6 a HE of 1.51%. A fully place bet strat has a HE of around 4%. That is 13 times the HE you could have.

[@jerryfougere7067]

Excellent, like this a lot, my version was $3o DP, but I like the $40 better, if I get A hit I do the STRETCH, by adding $ 3.00 , I go $60 outside , again well done

[@OnPointCraps]

Stretch is always an option. I normally wait until I get some profit before that though.

[@kyleseber]

Can someone explain to me how the strategy loses because I’m failing to comprehend it from the video

[@OnPointCraps]

You can lose on a come out 7 or if the shooter hits the point. The strength of the strategy is that it puts bets on the numbers with the most possible combinations. Inevitably, a shooter will find those weaknesses. I hope the helps clear it up.

[@kyleseber]

But in your video you pay out 4$ on the come out 7. That’s not losing.

[@OnPointCraps]

@@kyleseber if I did, then I made a mistake. It loses on come out 7 or 11. Can you give a time stamp so I can see it and address it for any future viewers.

[@kyleseber]

@@OnPointCraps3:57

[@kyleseber]

Then 4:42 point 7 out and 6, 8 beer losses and don’t pass pays… so I’m failing to see the loss.