6.8 Western vs 6.5 PRC

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Reloading Weatherby

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@ebennose9061
@ebennose9061 2 жыл бұрын
6.8 western all day long
@johnkaraphillis754
@johnkaraphillis754 2 жыл бұрын
Good video fact based. As a handloader, both cartridges and their components will be hard to find. I would choose the 6.8 Western over 6.5 PRC. Both have impressive ballistics but I’m sticking with my .280AI. Enjoy these cartridge facts!
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting John
@keithprinn720
@keithprinn720 4 ай бұрын
decent brass for the western a real issue as is rifles offered except the two companies releasing it. seems like reloading components have improved. the western with 175 grain ammo could offer what so many want without exceeding recoil levels handled. the new 156 grain PRC in right length PRC barrel could be same.
@jw3946
@jw3946 2 жыл бұрын
Both are great. I have a 6.8 Western. Great cartridge. One can’t go wrong with either.
@miketyson8933
@miketyson8933 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed but guys out west have to roll with the harder hitting round , )
@jimedick9496
@jimedick9496 9 ай бұрын
I have both, but I grab my 6.8 Western more than my 6.5 PRC.
@jw3946
@jw3946 9 ай бұрын
The 6.8 Western is a much better cartridge than the 6.5 PRC. The 6.5 PRC was much better marketed. This is what Hornady does well. You know if Winchester/Browning had not come out with the 6.8 Western, Hornady would have released the 6.8 PRC. It would be marketed as the most perfect cartridge. I know I am right on this one. Hornady would never let the 6.8 be. And we would have 178 eld-x and 175 eld-m bullets. Now Hornady pretends the 6.8 doesn’t even exist.
@jimedick9496
@jimedick9496 9 ай бұрын
@@jw3946 I have both, but if I could only have one, it’s the 6.8 Western. Between the two, the 6.8 Western is the perfect all around cartridge. It can take deer, elk, antelope, bear, and moose ethically. It can do it with terrific accuracy and at long range. It’s a short action which allows for lighter rifles. It’s efficient using barrels as short as 20”. The PRC can maintain effectiveness down to 22”. Not a big deal, but between the shorter barrel and shorter action, you can reduce a rifles weight enough to really notice. Bullet weight and ballistics is right there on the heels of the 7 PRC. It does this with lighter recoil and lighter rifles. This isn’t trashing the PRC’s. I love mine, and they are terrific cartridges. This is a general statement that the 6.8 Western takes the best of both PRC’s into one cartridge. The only hit the 6.8 Western has is ammo support. That may change soon. ADG brass is looking to manufacture the 6.8 Western later this year.
@walt8993
@walt8993 2 жыл бұрын
277 or true 7mm lol are becoming more popular. With the us military’s adoption of the 277 fury , coupled with great ballistics I think the 6.8 western is a winner can’t wait to get one. I’ve been a big game guide for 40 years I’ve experienced some interesting hunts with a lot of different firearms,the 6.8 western is here for the long haul!!
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! I'm excited for the 270 calibers
@miketyson8933
@miketyson8933 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%! My next build will be the 6.8 Western!
@danblumel
@danblumel Жыл бұрын
Either only 2 ammo sources, actually one since Browning and Winchester are the same company, they can charge insane ammo prices, reloading is the only good option.
@cliffordschorr
@cliffordschorr 2 жыл бұрын
6.8 western would be my choice for sure
@justafloridamanfromthe75thRR
@justafloridamanfromthe75thRR 2 жыл бұрын
you want to have slightly better ballistics for a ton more recoil? Good on you
@marcmoore4115
@marcmoore4115 2 жыл бұрын
@@justafloridamanfromthe75thRR He mentioned the Recoil of 6.5 PRC being equal to .30-06, but according to shooterscalculator and Nosler Loads, the 6.5 PRC is pretty much on par with .308/.270 Win recoil, whereas the 6.8 Western is comparable to the .30-06.... I wouldn't say that is all that noticeable with a well setup rifle. Maybe at the range, with a higher volume of fire, but just for that '1 shot' of hunting.. I doubt it'd make a big difference. Personally, I'd love a custom .270 WSM, running those 165gr AccuBond Long Range at about 3000fps. Similar, but slightly better ballistics vs the .300 WSM running the 190gr ABLR, just a bit less energy and significantly less recoil.
@patmartin4411
@patmartin4411 Жыл бұрын
@Just a Florida man from the 75th RR recoil? So sad to see the pussification of the modern day American male. Wouldn't expect that from a ranger.
@devongreen7308
@devongreen7308 Жыл бұрын
I've seen videos of people saying 6.5 PRC kicks less than a .270win. I own .308, .270, .30-06, and just sold my .300 wsm to purchase a 6.5 PRC. After putting 4 shots of 143gr target ammo, I looked at my friend that was with me and had him shoot it. He of which also owns a .270, and has shot all of my rifles, follows up with "Well that definitely kicks more than any .270 I've shot." He and I both agree it kicks like a .30-06 with 165gr-178gr. And for anyone saying we're full of it, I'm 5'6" at 150lbs and he's 6'4" at 325lbs. We both think the same. Thanks for the reality check on recoil figures.
@Manbunmen65
@Manbunmen65 7 ай бұрын
I have seen all kinds of crazy 270 win comparisons with the prc. I own a bergara approach and just chronographed 3 factory loads with it. The 130 terminal ascent is averaging around 3,100 fps. The rifle has a muzzle break but you can tell it still has a fast recoil impulse and it is angry. It's a magnum. I have seen so many crazy comments, one person said the prc is a good target gun but not even close to as effective a hunting round within 400 yards. If the prc is shooting faster and better sd with the same bullet weight, why isn't it as good. Die hard 270 guys really can't wrap their minds around it and I think it's the name "prc". They don't realize its a magnum.
@rockylavigna5977
@rockylavigna5977 2 жыл бұрын
Compare the 6.8 to the 7mm Rem Mag after I did that and noticed very little difference in performance and having a few in my safe I purchased the 6.5 prc.I love shooting the 300B in fact at the range today I shot one and had a nice little sub moa group,nice.Last year I took the PRC to the range on a very cold very windy day.With factory ammo I grouped on a dime.I am not a match shooter my goal with heavy hitters is sub moa.This group with the PRC was something very different for me and I was very impressed.The rem 7mag matches the 6.8 I could not get my hands around why I would want one other than that then maybe.The 6.5 prc is really an awesome shooting gun.It outdid all my expectations.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
I did a 7mm Rem mag vs 6.8 Western video about 10 months ago. They are very close in performance, and you could probably get a little more velocity out of the 7mm Rem mag. Can't go wrong with the 6.5 PRC. Thanks for sharing info about your PRC.
@kain4645
@kain4645 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 6.8 western and I plan on loading it
@billysilva6388
@billysilva6388 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't shot either, but being a winchester and browning guy I really want a 6.8 western. Been looking at a couple of the hells canyon guns. I also thought about taking one of my m70 270 wins and re barreling it and seeing if it couple changed into a 6.8 or just putting a faster twist barrel on it so I could shoot heavier bullets in it.
@miketyson8933
@miketyson8933 2 жыл бұрын
Hands down the best new rounds that aren't a magnum round but magnum numbers!! The 6.8 Western is hitting 17% harder then the 6.5 PRC very similar case but ya got the bigger caliber and thats why its hitting harder, dang near identical brass....the .277 / 6.8 is really the ideal caliber for speed, especially bench shooting, 6.5 is great for bench shooting as well. When it comes to Ballistic Coefficient the .338 Norma Mag is up there at the top hence why they special forces picked that round along with the .300 Norma Mag. I have a Christensen MPR in. 300 Win Mag so my next build will be the 6.8 Western a Christensen Titanium with a Gunwerks can it really does tighten the groups the technology on these cans, rounds, rifles, barrels are amazing! Makes ya wonder what took them so long to copy the 6.5 Swede and be like hey we like the way these shoot. And then add some extra rifling twist lol...Ive always loved the .270 WSM I thought that round has always been about as good as it gets in a short action. Most everyone wants short action rifles because they already have their magnum rifles. Like the 7 PRC its a magnum round, doesn't make sense to me other then for opening the pocket book. Winchester said the 6.8 Western is the new .270 WSM and boy it really does some hard hitting for a short action round and getting that straight shooting rifle instead of doing more adjusting for the .308 ballistics but hey the .308 will always be around, I think the 6.5 PRC out of all 3 will be the one that sticks around, I also think the 6.8 Western is catching on fire and the loads these guys are making are very very very impressive!! The 6.8 Western will be the round that really takes off, it really already is!!!
@erictiry6483
@erictiry6483 2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to recoil I'm not sensitive to it. I like the rifles that are on the punishing side. I had thought about both of these cartridges and said the heck with them and just recently bought a 28 Nosler. Looking forward to testing it out.
@bustabass9025
@bustabass9025 2 жыл бұрын
If you're like me, you'll love the 28 Nosler. I have one in a Nosler rifle that shoots 168 grain Nosler AccuBond LR bullets, like laser-guided, sidewinder missles. I love the big bangers and have never shied away from one because of recoil. To each his own but I would jump over both of these cartridges, to get a 6x6 Colorado bull centered in its crosshairs.
@brent338
@brent338 2 жыл бұрын
probably my 2 favorite rounds... but for now, with limited components and reloading data, ive gone 7mm rem mag... and dont regret it one bit.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
How is your 7mm mag?
@brent338
@brent338 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby still un-fired... Lol. Has been sidelined, woman in the picture now. 😂
@AussieInCA11
@AussieInCA11 2 жыл бұрын
I made a similar decision. Plan to put a faster twist barrel on it in future (currently 1:9.5, want 1:8), so it can stabilize the longer bullets and it'll be 👌. I just can't bring myself a ditch a barrel with only a few hundred rounds through it so it'll have to wait a minute or two.
@danblumel
@danblumel Жыл бұрын
I would have gone with 7 PRC instead
@hopefulballistics
@hopefulballistics 2 жыл бұрын
Both are effective hunting cartridges. Great video!
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
What would your choice be?
@hopefulballistics
@hopefulballistics 2 жыл бұрын
I go back and forth, I like the 6.5 caliber, so probably the 6.5 PRC. I don’t have any game bigger than whitetail around here
@jameswatson4110
@jameswatson4110 Жыл бұрын
They are both good cartridges-i’ve got the PRC. It shoots lights out and with a can on it you can shoot it free recoil. Good vid
@bobhamilton7472
@bobhamilton7472 2 жыл бұрын
There is some info on the 6.8 western in the Hodgdon reloading annual magazine.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, but it's very conservative numbers. The velocities don't even match the Winchester factory ammo
@bobhamilton7472
@bobhamilton7472 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby Hodgdon shows 2938 fps with the 170 grain Berger EOL using 69.1 grains of Ramshot Magnum powder. The psi is listed at 63,300. That seemed like fairly good performance for a 24 inch barrel.
@jonbaniak9097
@jonbaniak9097 3 ай бұрын
There is load data for the 6.8 Western in the 2024 Hodgedon Reloading Annual. Just a FYI. I love both cartridges.
@markcrawford2896
@markcrawford2896 2 жыл бұрын
6.8 hands down
@tracyfry6818
@tracyfry6818 2 жыл бұрын
6.8 western, and there will be more offerings from other rifle manufacturers soon.
@patrickrodriguez320
@patrickrodriguez320 2 ай бұрын
I think it will see it's day. When that day comes I want to say I've been on this since day 1.
@Xbolt1969
@Xbolt1969 7 ай бұрын
I would and planning on the 6.8 western it's picking up some more interest since the 7prc is not getting over 2900 fps ..
@keithprinn720
@keithprinn720 4 ай бұрын
very interesting to consider again factoring in the latest reloaded with 156 grain for the PRC in a 24 or 26 inch barrel.
@Manbunmen65
@Manbunmen65 7 ай бұрын
I got a hankering for a short magnum. My first pick was the 270 wsm, next was 6.8 and last was the 6.5 prc. I went with the prc because of one reason only. Ammo availability, but if I had the choice again with equal ammo availability of all three, I wouldnt hesitate to take the prc again.
@Trshane1
@Trshane1 2 жыл бұрын
6.8 looks like a do it all gun where a 6.5 prc seems a little light for elk at distance.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@toddparsons2980
@toddparsons2980 2 жыл бұрын
I debated, debated, and debated between these two for about 6 months and finally chose the 6.5 PRC. Mainly because it appears there is just more support behind the PRC. The 6.8 Western still intrigues me, so there's still a possibility of one in my future but we'll see what the 7mm PRC is all about
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
I think you made the smart move. I'm afraid the 6.8 Western will become obscure because no one other than Winchester and Browning want to support it.
@toddparsons2980
@toddparsons2980 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby hopefully it doesn't, it seems to be a solid option.
@Dale37
@Dale37 2 жыл бұрын
I was in the same boat and made the same decision. With everything being equal, I would have chosen the 6.8 but due to rifle and ammo availability, I chose the 6.5 PRC. I haven't even shot it yet but I like my creedmoor, so this should be even better.
@miketyson8933
@miketyson8933 2 жыл бұрын
Lol so go with what everyone else is doing? Guys who hunt elk and bear with deer are going 6.8 Western, you're about to see that flip here real quick IMO
@wyattgraham5711
@wyattgraham5711 2 жыл бұрын
I have gone to Al’s, Sportsmans in provo, Cabelas in lehi. I have asked them about rifles in the 6.8 western and they have all said that they stay on the shelf for a day or less. I usually see the copper ammo on the shelves. I don’t think that copper has taken off quite yet. I do know als has a couple bags od brass for the 6.8 western and a couple of rcbs dies for it as well.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen the 6.8 Western brass at Al's. Good to hear the 6.8 is doing well in Utah.
@kennethwilliams2040
@kennethwilliams2040 11 ай бұрын
I like my 6.8 Western M70 24” barrel w/muzzle brake weighs 8.5# unloaded factory trigger breaks clean @2.5# Winchester tech stated muzzle brake reduces recoil 36-40% Hodgdon site has load Data Full potential 170gr load comes in at 20ft/lbs of recoil w/o the brake makes this Magnum a pussycat to shoot big bullets
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 11 ай бұрын
Nice!
@ScottGostick
@ScottGostick 2 жыл бұрын
Tough choice. I feel both are excellent. Not sure about a head to head comparison using published data for the 6.8 W as it seems pretty clear that there has been some intentional dishonesty with the original data on this cartridge. Think I would lean toward the Prc simply to use as a deer specific rifle, as neither choice would find its way to surpass my current choices for heavier game.
@traviskuntz7503
@traviskuntz7503 2 жыл бұрын
What specifically do you claim is dishonest? The velocities I'm seeing match the posted data
@hotramen5952
@hotramen5952 2 жыл бұрын
im seeing people get exactly what the boxes say on chronographs. which in 175 grain factory ammo is faster than the 7mm rem mag. every new rifle round is compared to sub optimal rounds in other chamberings by the developer. this has been happening since the 60's. honestly the further back you go the worse it is.
@miketyson8933
@miketyson8933 2 жыл бұрын
You couldn't be more wrong! Numbers are coming out and showing a LOT better for the 6.8 Western!
@kerryyeroyan8212
@kerryyeroyan8212 Жыл бұрын
As a Montana Elk hunter I’d take the 6.8 over the 6.5 any day. After all if we are going to be studying ballistic’s and be looking at bullet weight, velocity and energy as the bench mark for a hunting round it seems a no brainer. Really surprised it’s not more popular!!
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby Жыл бұрын
Good choice
@garageliving3658
@garageliving3658 4 күн бұрын
Im currently buying a bergara in 6.5prc and fully determined to rebarrel it to be 6.8 western. I have a feeling if i dont have the barrel bought by the time the rifle comes in it will be hard to change. Heart wants the 6.8, but my brain and lazines says the 6.5 will be easier to do stuff with. Adg is making 6.8 brass so there is that
@tandtoutdoors5154
@tandtoutdoors5154 Жыл бұрын
I have the Browning x-bokt speed with a suppressor pushing those 170 gr pills in a handload. That gun with a can has minimal recoil and my son can shoot it off a tripod without an ish. Its easily sub moa out to 300 yards with minimal work and a mid range scope.
@BryanTheHunter513
@BryanTheHunter513 Жыл бұрын
I went back and forth with these two for awhile. I ended up with a 6.5 prc for several reasons: 1st I worried about longevity and if 6.8 western was going to be available down the road 10 years 2nd, I reload and brass options are better for the prc. you can get winchester/browning brass but that's about it with the western where as the prc has lapua options along with a lot other quality brass. The biggest knock on the prc for me will be barrel life. I'll be looking at a new barrel within 3 years most likely. Either way it was a good comparison, though with reloads they really go neck and neck with the western having more energy downrange. Think most people would be happy with whichever they choose.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby Жыл бұрын
I completely understand why you would pick the 6.5 PRC over the 6.8 Western. There is zero support for the 6.8 Western
@JW-wi1nf
@JW-wi1nf 2 жыл бұрын
The real reason Hornady doesn't support the 6.8 Western is because, they plan to release a 7mm PRC in 2022 or 2023. That's low on Hornady's part, in my opinion, to not publish reloading data for the 6.8 Western! It should be up to the shooter to decide the cartridge/caliber based on their shooting needs. The 6.8 Western is the modern replacement of the 270 Win, because it has a faster twist for higher BC bullets, plus it's a short action cartridge. That's a win for individuals who love the 270 Win and for those hunters who want to shoot a heavier bullet that's not available in 6.5 PRC.
@patrioticguy1791
@patrioticguy1791 Ай бұрын
I would really love to have a rifle chambered in 6.8 Western, but it's really tough to get brass right now. Off the shelf ammo is pretty minimal. I don't know why either because it is a great performing cartridge.
@darrylpacholko5495
@darrylpacholko5495 2 жыл бұрын
6.5 PRC is here to stay. 6.8 western, I'm not sure. However doesn't a .270 win achieve very similar numbers to the 6.5 prc? One might ask why do I need a 6.5 prc?
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Velocity is about the same, but the 6.5 PRC has much higher B.C. bullets. So as hunting cartridges 270 does everything the 6.5 PRC does
@lz3572
@lz3572 8 ай бұрын
Good video. For me I already have a 7mm mag. So I don’t need the 6.8 western So for Deer and medium game I’d go with the 6.5 PRC
@lz3572
@lz3572 6 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I too have a 7rem mag that I have had for 40 years. And a 6mm Remington. So the 6.5 PRC would fit perfectly in the middle. Cheers
@adamshaw8214
@adamshaw8214 2 жыл бұрын
Will the 6.8 western cover the same uses as a 300winmag? That's the question on my mind.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
If you only use factory ammo in the 300 Win mag? They are pretty close. I did a video comparing the two
@adamshaw8214
@adamshaw8214 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby I have both. They are lboth xpr rifles. 300 is a 26" and 6.8 is a 24". Thinking of going to just one caliber. Can't decide.
@montanamusings
@montanamusings 11 ай бұрын
I want both! Pretty soon I will! #savethe6.8western!
@makcc11
@makcc11 2 жыл бұрын
I just recently purchased a 6.5prc. Before I purchased I read it was slightly less recoil than a 270win not 30.06
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Recoil is almost the same with the 270 Win and 30-06. Once you get up to 180 gr bullets in the 30-06 the recoil bumps up a bit.
@makcc11
@makcc11 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby I definitely don't feel a 270win and a 30.06 have the same recoil..
@feuerland81
@feuerland81 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen 6.5 PRC brass where I buy my reloading stuff but it is usually sold out in 24 to 48 hours... if not faster! lolll This carthridge is getting crazy popular. Even if I usually prefer bigger calibers for hunting like the 300 Win Mag, I could use a lighter recoiling carthridge like the 6.5 PRC in a much lighter rifle for when I have a lot of walking to do or just for deer size game. Nice vid.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jdogi1
@jdogi1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in the market and these are both topping my list. Unfortunately, I don't want to buy a Winchester or Browning rifle. So, depending on how long I decide to hold off, it'll likely be 6.5 PRC for me.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
What rifle do you want?
@jameseroh6544
@jameseroh6544 2 жыл бұрын
You will probably like the 7. PRC. It is due out in the Fall of 2022.
@michaelnelson1911
@michaelnelson1911 2 жыл бұрын
Christensen arms is going to start making a 6.8 western. That is what I want to do
@miketyson8933
@miketyson8933 2 жыл бұрын
Lol what? Im buying the 6.8 in the Christensen Titanium. Yall 6.5 guys are funny, but I get it if you are out east or like to pop paper
@miketyson8933
@miketyson8933 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelnelson1911 yes sir, exactly what Im doing as well!!
@stoli-9574
@stoli-9574 2 жыл бұрын
I was very interested in both of these cartridges. There are just a lot more rifle options in the prc. I've loved it so far. It has out performed a 308, 7mm Mauser and a 30-06 in many of my ballistic test.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
6.5 PRC is a good one. My dad has one and it shoots well under .5MOA
@eduardoolaechea
@eduardoolaechea 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the 6.5 PRC was developed to give the 6.5 Creedmoor a .270 Winchester performance, while the 6.8 Western was developed to give a .270 Winchester the 6.5 Creedmoor performance… Can you please compare a .264 Winchester Magnum with a .270 Winchester?
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
I'll do it soon
@edgarlombera7066
@edgarlombera7066 2 жыл бұрын
@Jess Hadlock old underrated cartridge… it’s slowly being forgotten but it’s definitely better than a .270, IMO…
@miketyson8933
@miketyson8933 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get that BS from? When Winchester literally said the 6.8 Western is their updated .270 WSM ! Lol ya talking for yourself
@miketyson8933
@miketyson8933 2 жыл бұрын
@Jess Hadlock .264 magnum lol the 7mm rem mag put that to sleep, same cartridge in the best all around caliber. For paper poppers and deer hunters, guys out west would go 7mm or .300 win mag but most people have those rifles and they were their grandpas rifles passed down, and want a short action with magnum numbers and the 6.8 does it!
@eduardoolaechea
@eduardoolaechea 2 жыл бұрын
@@miketyson8933 Dear Mike, You'd better stick to boxing!
@ZAKish-cy9xu
@ZAKish-cy9xu 2 жыл бұрын
I think how well the 6.8 Western does will be based on 2 things; 1- if other rifle manufacturers will chamber their rifles in it , and 2- if other ammunition manufacturers start to produce it. Hornady has already stated that the company will not ever produce ammunition for the 6.8 Western.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@miketyson8933
@miketyson8933 2 жыл бұрын
Hornady has always over powdered brass for numbers and sucked for accuracy. When Hornady comes out and says that it tells me that the 6.8 Western is the way to go, and why Im building one end of the month!
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
@@miketyson8933 What rifle will your 6.8 Western be in?
@jmgates09
@jmgates09 2 жыл бұрын
These are my 2 favorite cartridges can't find a 6.8 rifle but just sold my mossberg 6.5 and ordered a cz600 alpha in it
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@gunman-6646
@gunman-6646 2 жыл бұрын
You can find 6.5 prc about anywhere here but I have yet to see any 6.8 western.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting....
@gunman-6646
@gunman-6646 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronlowney4700 usually I always go to Montana to get my ammo. More variety and generally cheaper plus no sales tax is nice too.
@levifornengo5869
@levifornengo5869 2 жыл бұрын
I have both the 6.8 is more versatile but both are amazing accurate guns if I had to choose one it would be the 6.8
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting!
@dustindias645
@dustindias645 2 жыл бұрын
I would go 6.8 western i like more bullet weight
@mmorris6341
@mmorris6341 2 жыл бұрын
Just picked up a Tikka roughtec lite in 6.5 prc one day I’ll throw a 6.8 western barrel on it.
@DG2244
@DG2244 Жыл бұрын
Here it is a year later and things have shaken out a bit. Still can't find 6.8 Westerner brass anywhere. However brass for the 6.5 PRC is everywhere. Very little support from Winchester has pretty much killed this cartridge. I won't buy a rifle that in 5 years ammo will be a ghost. Funny thing, in my research of brass availability, I found 270 Winchester sold out in most places. Looks like the old 270 Winchester is still what people want.
@martinfrenandez7350
@martinfrenandez7350 2 жыл бұрын
I like the .264 WM because the 6.5 bullet availability is cataching up with the .284s and .308s. The .270 bullets are rare and most lack decent BCs. The .264 WM although is loosing steam because of slow twist rates , the PRC just can't kepp up in terms of energy and rebated bullets with high BCs are generally short enough to stabilize which means handloading select bullets may be needed. Speer Gold Dot 140gr is a bonded high BC tactical bullet that can stabilize and hold together in high velocity impacts but weight retention suffers. Speer Impact 140gr bonded is also high BC bullet and according to reports it's as long as the nosler partition which is about to hit the market soon. There are 6 different factory ammo available in the .264 WM and that still beats the 6.8 westerns factory ammo availability 4.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! I made a underrated cartridge list video you might like
@martinfrenandez7350
@martinfrenandez7350 2 жыл бұрын
send me a link
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinfrenandez7350 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gH2WqJ2PYq2Md9k
@thecheapshot1065
@thecheapshot1065 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 270 acclim proof which gives me about as much powder capacity as 60 Western but as much performance and velocity. I love the gun even with its factory barrel oversized brake which throws gas right back in my face and still factory stocking trigger that gun shoots my delays are being started if I had to missed something it would be with in
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great setup!
@jamesbromstead4949
@jamesbromstead4949 2 жыл бұрын
I'm I an idiot or will the 6.5 PRC hold pace with the .277 Fury?
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
It will not be as fast as the 277 fury I think
@lessforloans
@lessforloans 2 жыл бұрын
Do a video on a 280AI please. Really would like a rifle chambered in that round
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
I've done several videos on it. I really like the 280AI
@lessforloans
@lessforloans 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby awesome I’ll search. How much a difference is there between that and a 280 is there. I don’t reload yet
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
@@lessforloans 50-100 FPS
@jmgates09
@jmgates09 2 жыл бұрын
If anyone doesn't think the PRC is enough for elk and moose go to a channel called Brandon and Stacy Hunt and see them drop multiple of both with 147g hornady eld M ammo I wouldn't hunt with match ammo but it shows you how key shot placement is
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking a poll is a fun idea to see what everyone thinks. I agree with you the PRC can take elk just fine. With that being said I've always preferred bigger cartridges... hence why I have a 300 Weatherby.
@kjc9293
@kjc9293 10 ай бұрын
Read THEIR comments about bad bullet performance while you're there!!!!
@tjames525
@tjames525 2 жыл бұрын
My choice is the 6.8 Western shooting the 175 Sierras.
@MrJtin69
@MrJtin69 2 жыл бұрын
Ron spomer took a deer 1 shot at 777 yarda with the 6.8 western
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
I saw his video on that. Not sure how I feel about shooting game at that distance. Ron obviously has a lot of experience.... but still
@bustabass9025
@bustabass9025 2 жыл бұрын
Ron Spomer is not the average Joe DeerTag who buys a license the day before a season opener, goes and plops his fat, beer guzzlin' butt in the woods, sees a glimpse of something that looks like antlers, and starts blastin'...even though he may not have fired his rifle since the last time he sighted it in. He's an acclaimed gun sports and field writer, life-long hunter, and shooter. He's been doing it all, and makes a living at it as part of his professional career. That's a huge difference in my opinion, than just saying because he did it at that distance with a 6.8 Western, or any caliber for that matter, maybe anyone else can, or should try do it too.
@zxej6879
@zxej6879 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to buy a 6.8 Western rifle. Considering the US Army is buying the 6.8x51 cartridge. The future looks good. Even though the military cartridge is 80,000 psi. The bullets and cases are likely to become common. I have a .270 Win, a 6.5 Creedmore rifle, and a .308. The .308 sees the most range time, because I can buy the ammo. The faster twist 8:1 to 7:1 barreled rifles will likely dominate in the future. For this range of bullet calibers. But for less than 250 yards though. The .350 Legend is fairly good. And for the big game, a .450 Bushmaster will stop anything really big. And given that many people hunt in that range. The popularity will grow for those hunters. But in the areas where longer shots are common. The fast twist 6.5 to 7mm or .270 & .280 calibers will likely dominate over time. But for the 6.5 PRC or 6.8 Western question. The 6.8 Western may give a better barrel life. And is likely to have harder hitting bullets. But the 6.5 PRC is softer shooting. And is a slight upgrade from the 6.5 Creedmore. But the real winner will be determined by the overall availability and price of ammo. Which both have availabilty issues right now. I have not been hunting recently. And target practice with the rifle that I can buy ammo for that day. I will likely buy a 6.8 Western and the 7 PRC when it becomes available. The 6.5 PRC is not on my shopping list.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@gunman-6646
@gunman-6646 2 жыл бұрын
My next gun will be another. 270, this one in a Browning. Personally I would not own either a prc or a 6.8.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of Browning rifle?
@gunman-6646
@gunman-6646 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby Browning x-bolt medalion.
@renomac1635
@renomac1635 2 жыл бұрын
Should do a 6.5 rem mag vs 6.5 prc something from 60 years ago to today and it still beats it
@mcndjxlefnd
@mcndjxlefnd 2 жыл бұрын
If you live in a state that allows suppressors, 6.8 Western all the way. Otherwise, 6.5 PRC.
@miketyson8933
@miketyson8933 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think you have been paying much attention on all the chats and blogs, videos ect...but then again the 6.8 just came out year and half ago or so and people really laughed at it including me, but once they dug in and gave it a listen the last 6-8 months a LOT of rifles have been sold! But only time will tell but I can bet the farm that the 6.8 Western makes it especially with the videos and numbers Ive seen its a damn impressive round!!! And honestly the 6.5 PRC is as well its dang near same case just smaller diameter is all. The 7 PRC is strictly a money grab because they had the .300 PRC and I could have bought one, I chose .300 wm because the 26 inch carbon barrel brings the numbers back up to the PRC. Or just get the .300 WSM lol this stuff is getting out of control, I just wish they would focus on putting out new good ammo or a new powder, new twists in barrels or go make the old classics improved. Thats just my opinion and what ive seen is all
@adamtedder700
@adamtedder700 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta compare the same weight bullet in both calibers for it to be equal. Anytime you have a heavier bullet you're going to have more energy.
@adamtedder700
@adamtedder700 2 жыл бұрын
7mm WSM and 300 WSM will have more energy than the 6.8 Western.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting. I have the opposite thought on that. If I'm going to compare cartridges of different caliber I want to compare bullets with around the same b.c. or sectional density. That's kind of the point with bigger calibers is to get more energy. But with more energy comes more recoil.
@keithh4282
@keithh4282 2 жыл бұрын
Hornady just released the 7mm PRC which buries the 6.8 Western in every respect.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
I did a video comparing the two. They are pretty close in performance. But I do think the 6.8 Western will fail
@msb2948
@msb2948 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the 6.8 doesn't have very good reloading versatility and in a real hunters hands the 270 WSM makes better effective use and range, as the 130-150 range withe a solid copper will do anything that 6.8 Western engine can muster in the real world. The latest Hodgdon reloading manual features the 6.8 Western and even there, the standard 270 holds it's own against it. The 6.5 PRC is very close to that 6.8 Western, but again that WSM 270 is even flatter. These two are the best example of being late to the dance as the 6.5 PRC should have come out before and in place of the 6.5 Creedmoor and the 6.8 Western should have come out before the 270 WSM. I have a fast twist re barreled 270 Winchester and a 264 Win mag that I wouldn't trade for either. The 6.5 PRC and 6.8 Western are what many consider stepping rungs on the ladder to real hunting cartridges. If only the 270 Weatherby and 27 Nosler we're more available, this topic would be done. Great job young man!
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your information
@billysilva6388
@billysilva6388 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question on your fast twist 270. How heavy can you go and what twist did you do.
@WallyMerc06
@WallyMerc06 2 жыл бұрын
6.8 all day
@robertvasquez240
@robertvasquez240 10 ай бұрын
I'm sold on the 6.8 Western! And I don't reload.
@stephenkennedy3145
@stephenkennedy3145 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you that the 6.8 western will die out.i think most people that are looking for that type of ballistics will go to the the 7mm rem mag.i could be very wrong
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Winchester is a big successful company... so we will see
@stephenkennedy3145
@stephenkennedy3145 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby that is true,and they are advertising the hack out it
@tomlarue654
@tomlarue654 2 жыл бұрын
Neither. I really enjoyed your video though. Keep them coming.
@Ryan40272
@Ryan40272 2 жыл бұрын
Finding 6.8 in 175gr is impossible to find. You’d have a better chance at finding Big Foot eating the Easter Bunny. I found only one place online that has it in stock and they want $30 over msrp.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
That's crazy
@badmedicine4352
@badmedicine4352 2 жыл бұрын
I'll stick with my old dinosaur. 264 Winchester magnum
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
There you go!
@sakostwwy1903
@sakostwwy1903 2 жыл бұрын
Its easy to say when looking at a screen, but there is a big difference between 500 and 600 yards. 400 to 600 yards is 50% farther. so to say these are close, not so much. The 6.8 is far superior round than the 6.5 PRC. Would like to see it compared to the RPM. When it comes to recoil, if a person isnt tough enough to handle the recoil for the proper round to hunt with. They need to shave off their man bun beard and put away the skinny jeans and grow a pair or stay home because they are not fit for the outdoors.
@hotramen5952
@hotramen5952 2 жыл бұрын
another small pp trying to act big and tuff to randos on the internet.
@cobalt2010lt
@cobalt2010lt Жыл бұрын
Far superior… not by much
@kochj0713
@kochj0713 7 ай бұрын
A lot of guides will not even allow people to shoot 6.5 prc/Creedmoor into the elk
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 7 ай бұрын
Good
@bustabass9025
@bustabass9025 2 жыл бұрын
If you're contemplating a new high velosity rifle, and plan to step out of the realm of the tried and true 7 MM Remington Magnum cartridge, the 28 Nosler is the way to go. Forget these guys, and step up. It's a joy to shoot, easy to develop pin point handloads for, more down range punch, and a cinch for taking elk size or larger non-dangerous game. Trust me...You'll thank me for it later.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
28 Nosler is a pretty awesome cartridge!
@bustabass9025
@bustabass9025 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby ...no kiddin!
@felipemartinez3285
@felipemartinez3285 2 жыл бұрын
.28 Nosler still out performs the 6.8 Western
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it does
@txnomad3334
@txnomad3334 2 жыл бұрын
6.5 PRC for deer and 7mm or 280AI for elk. The 6.8 is unnecessary in my opinion!
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting!
@santicristyn2328
@santicristyn2328 2 жыл бұрын
7mm saum
@ngallakp62
@ngallakp62 2 жыл бұрын
284 winchester
@ronbeckybeasley3566
@ronbeckybeasley3566 7 ай бұрын
Not even close. Anything 6.5 sucks
@BearTx
@BearTx Жыл бұрын
Has any hunter's had any trouble feeding with 6.8 western or ejection
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby Жыл бұрын
I haven't heard of any issues
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