I have both the 6.5 Creedmoor and a 6.5 PRC. I love them both because they shoot so dang good.
@stephenfeatherstonhaugh21443 жыл бұрын
I bought a Ruger M77 Hawkeye in 6.5 PRC last summer. Once the ammo situation became clear, I experienced instant buyer’s remorse. I was eventually able to get enough cases and powder to start reloading for it. I have not regretted the purchase since. If you like the 6.5 CM, you’ll love the 6.5 PRC. If you’ve established your shooting fundamentals, you can hit 1000 yards the first day you shoot this rifle.
@Forrestwilliam3 жыл бұрын
The 6.5 PRC is INCREDIBLE!!
@eastwood40067 ай бұрын
Your KZbin channel and podcast has been an excellent source of information for me through the years. Thank you! Keep up the great work 👍
@shumardi19 ай бұрын
I don’t always comment but I just love your comparison videos.
@shumardi19 ай бұрын
Your channel is so extremely informative. I can’t imagine why you don’t have more subscribers. You are one of my top gun channels. If I was going to buy a new rifle I would want to watch your channel to see how the cartridge I am interested in stacks up.
@Thebiggamehuntingblog9 ай бұрын
Thanks! Glad you're enjoying it! If you want more content like this, be sure to sign up for my mailing list at HuntingGuns101.com!
@Dale372 жыл бұрын
I wanted to waste some money, so I own a 6.5 Creedmoor, PRC and a .270. Wouldn't mind a 6mm creedmoor too, even if I do already own a .243. Just can't have too many.
@luigiiacoletti81343 жыл бұрын
The 6,5 prc is really a great ctg! You can make all and better than 270 W...I made a similar ctg in the 1990 shortening the 6,5x68 at 308 and I have had the same results...48 gr norma 205 for 3100 fps 125 nosler and 46 gr x 140 at 3000 gps. My 6,5 Jaco is 10 years before all short magnum...
@Thebiggamehuntingblog3 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@luigiiacoletti81343 жыл бұрын
I can give you all sort of info
@charlesnicholson96253 жыл бұрын
I have been shooting a 264 win mag for over 50 years. It just keeps getting better with the modern powders and bullets. And it still out preforms any of the new 6.5 calibers. Stay safe stay strong.
@Salmon4lif32 жыл бұрын
But not many manufacturer, still champer rifles in that caliber it seems. Of cause you could get a gunsmith to champer one for you. What rifle are you shooting with, If I may ask??
@keithprinn720 Жыл бұрын
very parochial claim do you have experience and data to justify? also availability of factory rifles and ammunition? not saying you should change from your existing great rifle and capability just remember most wont be holding an existing rifle
@rubenllizo61323 жыл бұрын
This was the best presentation of these two cartridges on KZbin, Superb. Please do a comparison of the 6.5 PRS / 6.8 Westener & the .270 cartriges. Thank you.
@Thebiggamehuntingblog3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it! There is definitely a 6.8 Western comparison in the works!
@deltatango50863 жыл бұрын
Great presentation. I love my .308 win rifles... But the 6.5 creedmoor and prc sure got my attention...
@Thebiggamehuntingblog3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@deltatango50863 жыл бұрын
A presentation on the 300 Rum vs 300 prc should be interesting 😁 No pressure... at your leisure.
@slipknnnot3 жыл бұрын
Different purpose. I think the 308 win within it's intended range of 800 yards is hard to beat but the 6.5 cm is excellent past that to about 1400 yards I'd say it's effective. 6.5 PRC is a 2000 yard cartridge
@charlesmullins3238 Жыл бұрын
@@slipknnnot I put first round impact@1000yrds with my 16” DD .308 usin 178gr…superformance and magnitospeed to see my speeds which were around 2500fps…hornady app called for 58moa so I dialed half and held the rest….lol..buddie was amazed whereas he shoots super long barrels and here I show up with a carbine and nail it..
@eastwood40067 ай бұрын
After a 20 year hiatus, I'm planning to hunt whitetail in the Southeast (mainly for meat). I have an old Winchester 30-06 from the early 80s that I inherited from my grandfather. I picked up a short barreled (12.5") Christensen Arms MPP carbon fiber fancy etc 6.5 creed for ~ $700 during the 'brace' crisis ordeal. It's impressively accurate considering what it is, but I'm not going to hunt with it. Been looking at a Bergara HMR pro, or premier. I'm open to almost any brands. I still can't decide weather to go with 6.5 PRC or stick with the creed since I already have ammo
@Manbunmen656 ай бұрын
I was a 6.5x55 guy for 25 years here in NC deer hunting mainly. I bought a Bergara premier approach in 6.5 prc a couple months ago. Only have 30 rounds through it so far and I'm not looking back. It solved my problems because I was reloading for the 6.5x55 to get some decent velocity. In the 142/143 grain I'm getting 2930 fps in the prc and what is really hot is the terminal ascent 130s. Box says 3000 I'm getting 3100.
@stevenmanglis7368 Жыл бұрын
Excellent Analysis....Thank you for your effort
@tccgrad19992 ай бұрын
I hunt at a ranch in Texas with opportunities for some long range shots, so I went with a Tikka T3x in 6.5 PRC. If I hunted in a more wooded area, then 6.5 CM would have been my choice.
@TheZahedi3 жыл бұрын
How about barrel life? This is an important issue when comparing cartridges,
@GetMeThere13 жыл бұрын
It depends on usage. If a rifle is strictly for larger game hunting, for example, then it hardly matters at all. If you plan to do a lot of practice and pleasure shooting it matters a LOT. If you plan to shoot long range competition it doesn't matter a whole lot, because you already assume you're going to be changing barrels periodically. But sure, 6.5 PRC has lousy barrel life -- probably 1200 rounds or less at optimum accuracy. The thing is, there's no way around that if you want maximum ballistics. If you don't care about maximum ballistics then the 308 is an awesome choice -- most people estimate a minimum barrel life of 7000 rounds for the 308. BTW, I like to think about barrel life in terms of TIME. A seat of the pants barrel life estimate for the PRC is: average velocity in a 24" barrel 0 (starting velocity) + 3000 (muzzle velocity) /2 (average velocity in barrel) = 1500 fps. Time in barrel: 2 (2 foot length of barrel) / 1500 fps = 0.0013 seconds (a bit over 1 millisecond). Life time: 1200 (round life) x 0.0013 (time for each shot) = 1.6 seconds! A 6.5 PRC barrel has a lifetime of under 2 seconds!!!
@pstewart54433 жыл бұрын
Actually, it's about the same and that is especially true if you handload. You could just buy the 400ModBB Bartlein barrel and not worry about it all unless you compete a lot. Then instead of 4 barrels a year, you'll only need 2 barrels while saving some money, about $200 per barrel. If you're using a standard stainless steel barrel and you clean it properly, then you'll see about 1800-2100 rounds before you begin to see groups opening up as the throat has eroded and fire cracking becomes worse. Stainless tends to hold up a tad bit longer in the 6.5 family over chrome moly. Some will argue that fact, but I compete often with a 6.5CM and have shot using both types of steel. Stainless cleans better in my opinion too, particularly in the 5R twist design.
@MrHuntermikey10 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation
@Thebiggamehuntingblog10 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@hotramen59522 жыл бұрын
its funny that now .277 has arguably the 2nd widest range of available bullets with the 90 grain varmints up to 175 grain bonded, with medium game bullets starting at 100 grains thanks to the 6.8 spc.
@sheepdawg69463 жыл бұрын
A major con is how the 6.5 PRC feeds in my custom M700 rifle. 2+1 capacity. If I had to do it again, I would build it on a medium action. Overall, I like my 270 win better for a hunting rifle. Take the 6.5 PRC to the range and take the .270 hunting. I killed a nice mule deer with my 6.5 PRC. DRT at 337 yards. But my 270 has done that for decades. But I will not shoot game at over 400 yards but I will punch paper up to 1000 yards.
@peterm.eggers5203 жыл бұрын
New to your channel. Good analysis from a a big game hunter's perspective, if the gun hangs on the wall (locked-up these days) off-season. If big game hunting is it, there is undoubtedly more ammo spent on annual sighting-in that shots taken on big game. But, if the gun is going to be used off-season, you need to also compare barrel life, if putting hundreds or thousands of rounds annually through the gun. Recoil also becomes more important when daily shots fired is high. Personally, I like having one versatile gun that I know inside-and-out that gets used year-round. I may have a fast handling brush gun, a shotgun, a .22, etc., but I find having a gun that I'm proficient at putting an appropriate bullet precisely on-target in a variety of ranges, weather, terrains, and lighting out weighs all but the most extreme cartridge selections. So, for those year-round guns where accuracy counts, lack of recoil can be the edge in winning competitions. But, when putting many rounds through the gun regularly, barrel-life is also important in both cost of replacement, gun downtime, and possible different ammo preferences of a new barrel. Another note: almost everyone judges cartridge accuracy by shot grouping when that is a combination of shooter skill, many gun factors, and finally innate cartridge accuracy. So, how do you isolate cartridge accuracy? Simple and most have the data without realizing it. When the bullet leaves the gun muzzle, there is nothing that the shooter or gun can do to effect the accuracy -- obvious right? So, how do you measure the accuracy of the cartridge alone? Minimal muzzle velocity variation, every other factor is a result of shooter skill and gun. Varying velocity affects not only bullet drop, but also vibrations in the gun as the bullet travels down it. Whether factory made or hand-loaded, the bottom-line for the accuracy of a cartridge is as narrow as possible muzzle velocity variation for a given load. Some cases produce more consistent powder-burn than others, hopefully with a variety of primers and powders. Every cartridge is exceedingly accurate at the muzzle, and nothing will affect its group accuracy from that point on except atmospheric variations, and variations in the bullet and muzzle velocity. Between the primer ignition and the bullet leaving the muzzle, accuracy is about having consistent vibrations with consistent gun response. Uneven powder burning will add vibration variations which degrade accuracy. Bottom line:innate cartridge accuracy is easily measured inversely to muzzle velocity variation for a given load.
@RichValentine197210 ай бұрын
I own both, creed and Prc Love both
@Thebiggamehuntingblog10 ай бұрын
Me too, on all counts!
@blindboyjonny3 жыл бұрын
I happen to run across a savage ultralight in 6.5 PRC. The previous owner bought it and could not find ammunition so I bought it from him. I was able to find 10 boxes which should last me a lifetime with reloading. Might point out that the 6.5 Creedmoor at 2750 ft./s has about 2400 foot pounds of energy. If we reload the 6.5 PRC to a velocity of 3150, that yields over 3100 foot pounds of energy. Substantial difference. Definitely puts it up into the elk class of cartridge.
@Thebiggamehuntingblog3 жыл бұрын
If I were going to hunt elk with a 6.5mm cartridge, it would likely be the 6.5 PRC (or maybe the .264 Win Mag).
@SLFYSH3 жыл бұрын
By energy measures on perfect broadside shots with high SD good construction bullets, no problem. I'd feel confident with that, but I know I'd have to be more selective with shots and pass up quartering on, and shoulder shots. Big difference between deer and elk bones.
@Steve-yr5vi3 жыл бұрын
I'd still go with a 7-08 than either of these.
@thomassellers38132 жыл бұрын
6.5 prc is a hammer
@robertdahle72162 жыл бұрын
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog 26 nosler or 26 300 Weatherby
@johnreynolds64992 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thanks for sharing.
@Thebiggamehuntingblog2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@theapplesfoodforestfarmacy12333 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Presentation & Information. Thank you 🙏
@Thebiggamehuntingblog3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jstraus343 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of getting a 6.5 PRC for elk but I've seen too many videos where the elk just seem to absorb multiple shots in the boiler room before they tip over. Clearly does the job but maybe a little on the outside edge of ideal. I'll stick with my 6.5 creedmoor for deer and 300 WSM for elk with good constructed bullets, which has always put them down with one shot if I do my job.
@Thebiggamehuntingblog3 жыл бұрын
That's basically how I feel about it too. I think you're making a good decision with the 6.5 Creed for deer and the 300 WSM for elk.
@johnx93182 жыл бұрын
Great information, and superb presentation. Thank you.
@Thebiggamehuntingblog2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@tonymo41388 ай бұрын
Excellent video!
@mattharte73343 жыл бұрын
Excellent review.
@Thebiggamehuntingblog3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@rpk52503 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the creedmoor does most of what the prc does with less fuss
@holl09183 жыл бұрын
Same conclusion I arrived at.
@sundaesha58923 жыл бұрын
Same as the .25-06 but the .25-ought, came out way before these two
@Spin-Drift-Ballistics3 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍
@Thebiggamehuntingblog3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Spin-Drift-Ballistics3 жыл бұрын
I bought a gunsmithing lathe and have been putting out rifles. I think I'm going to rebarrel my old 308 and turn it into a 6.5 PRC. 🤓
@Thebiggamehuntingblog3 жыл бұрын
Let me know how that works out for you!
@rpk52503 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@Thebiggamehuntingblog3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@Colonel1Bravo3 жыл бұрын
I wish you could add some thoughts and comparisons between the 6.5 PRC and the 6.5 GAP SAUM4S
@jmkhenka3 жыл бұрын
I still dont understand. I have long reloaded for the 6.5x55 in modern rifles (sauer, bergara, tikka, sako, rem700) and the velocities offered by the 6.5 PRC is not that impressive. Sure the x55 is longer, but you have larger magazine capacity then and many rifles are still made in one lenghts (bergara, tikka) so thats irrelevant. Sure, factory loadings are what they are - mostly due to americans sitting on piles of small ring mausers or norwegian krags that has weak actions.
@luigiiacoletti81343 жыл бұрын
For european the 6,5x55 is a long fascinating caliber, not for americans...they love .25 and .270 but 6,5 can do all and better than the other two calibers
@nmhvactech54743 жыл бұрын
I’ll still keep my modern Winchester 70 in 6.5x55 over either of these two calibers. I’ve tested for several years working on my recipes of powder and Bullet combinations. I’m getting an average muzzle velocity 2825fps out of a 22” barrel. Which puts me in the middle of these two rounds, so I’m good. PS it’s the most accurate gun I’ve owned. 🤜🏼🎤
@Thebiggamehuntingblog3 жыл бұрын
The 6.5x55 is a GREAT cartridge! The thing that really seems to handicap it with Americans is the fact that factory ammo for it isn't loaded anywhere near the full potential of the cartridge. That's not an issue for Europeans and it's not an issue for handloaders like you. What bullet are you using in that load where you're getting 2,825fps? What all have you successfully taken with that rifle?
@masonraley45853 жыл бұрын
@@nmhvactech5474 what bullet and powder?
@michaelnelson19112 жыл бұрын
I have a chance to get a new rifle in one of these 3 calibers. 6.5 Prc , 6.8 western or 7mm. I want to be able to hunt elk and deer. Maybe some long range shooting in the future. I currently don’t reload. What would you recommend? I wonder if the prc or the 6.8 might not take off and be around for the long haul. What are your thoughts? I do live and hunt in the west. Thanks for a great video.
@BryanTheHunter513 Жыл бұрын
Pretty late for a reply but in case you're still looking for someone else's thoughts. I am currently building a custom 6.5 PRC. I would have much preferred to do the 7mm PRC but there's no ammo nor reloading supplies yet available. I like the 6.8 western except there's no premium brass options for reloading and I wonder if Winchester and Browning will be the only ones really making ammo for it; worries me from a supply perspective. The only draw back on the 6.5 would be that many people find it to be a little light for elk though I've seen several elk taken with one. Mine will be primarily for mule deer and speed goats. If elk was a definite regular game the 6.8 (or a good old 270) might be a better option. In the 7mm's I'd be happy with most cartridge's in that caliber. Probably favoring the 280 AI cuz that's how I like to roll.. Mostly though I think you're starting to split hairs between most of these options. Not saying you could go wrong with any but just some thoughts.
@colinsimmons29132 жыл бұрын
Well-read very informative you should do more reviews. I have a 6.5prc and i don't run it very hot there is something in having air space in the cartridge at even2700/ 2750ft per second it is still very accurate in a tikka 24inch barrel we don't have big game in aussie land, and it will still drop a roo at 400yards.I think there is something what the Swedes did with 6.55x55 it just burns powder well better barrel life to. To me it's like owning a Ferrari you're going to give it a flogging and it will wear out faster but if you had old car 4door 6cyclinder still does the job and will get there for a lot longer😀(Hate to be hit by ether of then at 60mph)🤣🤣
@leeadams59413 жыл бұрын
Wish you had included the 6.5 Swede ...which IMHO loaded correctly will out do both of these
@0-doller-bill9233 жыл бұрын
Sure.? But with a custom barrel that can take the additional pressure & not to mention it would have to be a hand-loader only. If I had to chose 1 & only 1 I would go 264 WM With 1-7.5 twist.26” & load the 143gr Eld-x. That’s probably out of the question but we all can dream right.
@PaulVerhoeven23 жыл бұрын
Loaded CORRECTLY (so not to exceed CIP max pressure) it is almost exactly the same as 6.5Cred loaded to its own max. If you mean "overloaded to +P++++ pressure", it is another matter,but it is also a long action cartridge, so try to compare to 26 Nosler.
@c0onyb2 жыл бұрын
I realize that this is over a year old, however I got to ask. I am selling my .308 rifle and am looking for a new caliber for the larger NA game (Elk in the foreseeable future). I am trying to decide between Creedmoor or 6.5 PRC. My issue with the Creedmoor is that I currently have a 6.5 Grendel that I can use for Deer and smaller. Would the Creed really be all that different from the Grendel? I hunt on a budget, so I'm not really a big fan of the large/expensive calibers, and 6.5 PRC seems to be pushing that budget up a bit for ammo. Is it worth the cost increase? Or is just getting another .308 really the way to go at this point.
@Thebiggamehuntingblog2 жыл бұрын
The 6.5 PRC is the smallest cartridge I'd recommend for elk. Sign up for my free e-book here to get some other good cartridge ideas that might work for you: huntingguns101.com/optin1615146914565?KZbin&HG101&YT&
@jasonlopez48552 жыл бұрын
6.5 PRC is good for kid's my son likes it too 🦌 hunting one likes 6.5 creedmore. 🤔 I replaced my 300wm for 300PRC.
@ComradCyborg3 жыл бұрын
If only the prc would become mainstream enough to be popular in AR platforms, after all its basically a magnum 6.5cm(over simplified). All it would need is special magazines and a barrel swap and bolt face. The magazines would be the hard part.
@BryceKimball7.33 жыл бұрын
Maybe some company could make an ar10 lower that takes aics type magazines
@reveriesimplex6483 жыл бұрын
I would've gotten my rifle in 6.5 PRC....if I could find any at the time, let alone now.
@Thebiggamehuntingblog3 жыл бұрын
Ain't that the truth...
@TheMeazy13 жыл бұрын
I purchased a Mossberg Patriot Predator 6.5 PRC a few months ago, I haven't seen one since. I haven't seen any PRC for the same price, my total was around $450. All the others I have seen are around $1k or more.
@steveditzler60142 жыл бұрын
Wow. That is alot of good info. I can see why it would be difficult to hunt with a 6.5 PRC. Longer cratridge, more powder, shorter barrel length, perhaps more expensive cost, and more recoil.
@michaelhull63Ай бұрын
The 6.5 is a dolled up 264 mag
@pstewart54433 жыл бұрын
Great coverage of the differences. I rarely see anyone competing with the 6.5PRC which is due to the recoil differences. Spotting your own shots is a major component of competition and most folks will go ahead and make the jump up to .284 Win instead of stopping at the PRC in either 6.5 or 300. I've never seen anyone competing with the 300 PRC which is really odd considering both 6.5PRC & 300PRC were made for competition. I have seen a couple of the 6.5 GAP aka SAUM lately whereas that was a rare unicorn. Seems people would rather just use the full on ultra mag over the light magnum 6.5CM or PRC. Appreciate the overview!! I was considering the 6.5PRC until I did some research and you helped narrow down to the fact I don't need the PRC to achieve 3000fps, as I can easily pull this in my 6.5CM using hotter loads.
@stevedalton80010 ай бұрын
The PRC cartridge is 400 fps more than the creedmoor..in most factory ammo loads definitely a upgrade from the creedmoor..
@paulx27773 жыл бұрын
Using the 143gr ELDX bullet in the Hornady manual, the 6.5 PRC velocity drops to 2700fps (which is the muzzle velocity of the 6.5 Creedmoor) at around 150 yards. This means whatever the PRC can do at a given range (say 1000 yards), the Creedmoor can do at a range 150 yards less (in this case, 850 yards). While a pretty good argument can be made of going from a .308 to the 6.5 Creedmoor, especially as it now is the "standard" for this bullet diameter, I just can't see it for the PRC. It was crazy going beyond the standard OAL for short action cartridges for the tiny extra velocity this added length bought them.
@jimbiddle86463 жыл бұрын
Hornady reloading manual is beyond conservative for liability reasons.
@jimollison50043 жыл бұрын
Might review your comment about comparison of the 6.5’s....you may have your own conclusion backwards.
@keithprinn720 Жыл бұрын
the hostility towards these calibres is typical for americans ignoring what the rest of the world and particularly the massive benefits from metrics used all around the world. the swede in particular massive use on same type animals hunted in scandanavia where they simply have a better understanding of capability. the recoil issue is massive and factory ammunition or availability of ammunition and combinations.
@philipfreeman723 жыл бұрын
Go Swed.
@The0nehitwonder3 жыл бұрын
Theoretically could you shoot a 6.5 CM in a 6.5 PRC?
@Thebiggamehuntingblog3 жыл бұрын
No, the round likely wouldn't even chamber and fire. if it did, it wouldn't be safe
@0-doller-bill9233 жыл бұрын
What would make you think that?
@PaulVerhoeven23 жыл бұрын
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog Why would not it chamber? Maybe not from a mag, but maybe even from a mag. And unfortunately, with a high-speed striker if the cartridge is not pushed all the way, might even fire (less likely of course). Just another safety issue and a reason bot to have 6.5Cred and 6.5PRC in the same home.
@warriorwarrior69993 жыл бұрын
I think the 6.8 western trumps the 6.5 creed moor and 6.5 PRC.
@jasonlopez48552 жыл бұрын
300 PRC is the one to get. I got one in Ruger fantastic round Nex 6.5 PCR for my son my other son 6.5 creedmoor Good rounds for my kid's 🤠
@joshclemons9975 Жыл бұрын
I just can't justify giving double the money for a box of PRC ammo for so little of a gain of performance especially when I have a 6.5 creed that shoots half moa at 100 yards with a bunch of different factory ammos
@Guide5042 жыл бұрын
It doesn't fit the short action...it has provided an absolute ball ache for manufacturers. Custom solution's with long seating mag feed go long mag action and mag.