6 Reasons Why The Mk2 MX-5 Is Better Than The Mk1

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@JMNTN
@JMNTN 8 жыл бұрын
Pop up headlights make all these reasons invalid
@Jueen_
@Jueen_ 8 жыл бұрын
ILLUMINATUS that's what I'm saying
@xNem7
@xNem7 8 жыл бұрын
ILLUMINATUS popup headlights are de best
@mop6278
@mop6278 8 жыл бұрын
ILLUMINATUS Rx 7 FD3S
@jamieee321
@jamieee321 8 жыл бұрын
ILLUMINATUS yep
@leonhart423
@leonhart423 8 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@BlackPanthaa
@BlackPanthaa 8 жыл бұрын
Just put pop ups on it
@simonowen5089
@simonowen5089 8 жыл бұрын
BlackPanthaa or in your case "rice it"...😒
@wik1613
@wik1613 8 жыл бұрын
BlackPanthaa nobed
@ninadpatwardhan0
@ninadpatwardhan0 8 жыл бұрын
BlackPanthaa eeeeellllllooooooo
@bigboimihai6559
@bigboimihai6559 8 жыл бұрын
BlackPanthaa nobed in da house !!!!!!!!!! NOBED NOBED NOBED
@vicmacarra
@vicmacarra 8 жыл бұрын
We cant ;(( XDD
@DGOfTheCentury
@DGOfTheCentury 8 жыл бұрын
So essentially what you are saying is put the MK2 engine and trans into a MK1...GOT IT!
@pixelghostclyde8717
@pixelghostclyde8717 7 жыл бұрын
Or get the Mk2 trans, and then fit ITBs to your NA's stock engine. A bit (okay, maybe a lot) more expensive, but (probably) worth it.
@miyabe_k195
@miyabe_k195 6 жыл бұрын
DGOfTheCentury no...somehow put a BMW in line 6 cylinder into a Mk 1 lul
@retro_44
@retro_44 6 жыл бұрын
13B swap it lmao
@markbakker2008
@markbakker2008 6 жыл бұрын
For horsepower yes, but reliability is less on the NB engines
@goldmegaman1000
@goldmegaman1000 5 жыл бұрын
LS swap lol
@mat_bb
@mat_bb 8 жыл бұрын
Mk2 is the better car, Mk1 is the better Miata
@radbug
@radbug 5 жыл бұрын
ew and no
@hectorsoy
@hectorsoy 4 жыл бұрын
Er... no.. The MK2 is in fact a great Miata, a natural evolution. Still love the Mk1. But the MK3 is dogshit!
@九头金蛇
@九头金蛇 4 жыл бұрын
@@hectorsoy for real. you get the na for the pop ups and for it being "the miata" you get the nb for it being a good track car and the price you get the newest miata for it being modern
@brad3245
@brad3245 4 жыл бұрын
Well said
@dakota3872
@dakota3872 4 жыл бұрын
s2000 reference
@throttleresponse8164
@throttleresponse8164 8 жыл бұрын
About two years ago, I bought a Mk1 for only £250. Of course, it was all completely broken, but at least the pop-ups worked!
@JAMGODZILLA
@JAMGODZILLA 4 жыл бұрын
Throttle Response oh so 0-60 in like 3 secs
@joshvdh7747
@joshvdh7747 4 жыл бұрын
@@JAMGODZILLAuhh yes
@stat1865
@stat1865 3 жыл бұрын
I. Rought a g reg na 600 with hard top i can spend 6000 onit n it still be worth 6000
@jimby_vokk3110
@jimby_vokk3110 3 жыл бұрын
@@JAMGODZILLA there cost 4k eurós here
@Harex96
@Harex96 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimby_vokk3110 mk1 7k to 10k today in my country mk2 4k to 8k :(
@vicesat
@vicesat 8 жыл бұрын
Why not both?
@carlosalfonsomejiamedina9309
@carlosalfonsomejiamedina9309 8 жыл бұрын
vicesat uno con plastidip y otro turbo :v me gustan mucho tus videos, saludos desde Colombia
@66Tinchoo99
@66Tinchoo99 8 жыл бұрын
vicesat hola viceeeeee saludos desde Argentina
@Super22b
@Super22b 6 жыл бұрын
Porque tú los tienes shur jaja
@robertosaenz8916
@robertosaenz8916 6 жыл бұрын
Vicesat aquí?
@jhiatt1516
@jhiatt1516 5 жыл бұрын
Now we’re talkin
@BobMcCoy
@BobMcCoy 8 жыл бұрын
Better Aero, Cheaper & Better Gearbox? Nah, I'll take pop-up headlights 😁
@RazorSharp75426
@RazorSharp75426 8 жыл бұрын
I respect your opinion, but I'm not too fond of the mk 1 because the pop-up headlights. it just not so good looking. I'll prefer Mk 2 instead, but if you liked the Mk 1 with pop-up headlights, it's okay.
@DFX2KX
@DFX2KX 7 жыл бұрын
My mother had a Celica with pop-ups, they're cool until they stop working. Or just one refuses to go down and she'd 'wink' at folks on the road. Funny, but kinda silly.
@TM-rx6qk
@TM-rx6qk 7 жыл бұрын
Bob McCoy and the mk1 looks better.
@tripwire3992
@tripwire3992 5 жыл бұрын
@@DFX2KX easy fix
@erikwithak6555
@erikwithak6555 5 жыл бұрын
Wow I’ve finally found a comment that’s not on an Inside edition video about Lisa Guerra from you, nice to see you like miatas too (like everyone should)
@geennaam1201
@geennaam1201 8 жыл бұрын
just stop praising this car so much, grand tour is also doing it and i want to get an mx-5 in a while, so let these glorious machines be unknown a bit longer
@BailOutVids
@BailOutVids 8 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, they haven't been unknown for a while. But that shouldn't stop you from buying one.
@geennaam1201
@geennaam1201 8 жыл бұрын
Daken Blioux no it won't but they might become more expensive as everyone suddenly wants one
@Ricardo-hf1bp
@Ricardo-hf1bp 8 жыл бұрын
geen naam get one while you can. They're only going to go become more expensive and harder to find(the clean ones).
@TheOklep
@TheOklep 8 жыл бұрын
Unknown? Man, NA is already a legend!
@THEALKYL
@THEALKYL 7 жыл бұрын
Mazda had already sold 1.000.000 of them by 2016 (all four generations combined). They are hardly unknown and even if they become more popular there are too many of them to get really expensive. That's the beauty of this car: it is an affordable dream.
@Ryukachoo
@Ryukachoo 8 жыл бұрын
1:50 only mazda could find a way to ONLY make an extra 20 horsepower from a turbo
@Ryukachoo
@Ryukachoo 8 жыл бұрын
quite true, but that's mostly because of how freakishly light the car is. I'm confident mazda could have easily pushed it to 200bhp, considering reliable 200bhp is pretty straightforward on aftermarket turbo'd miatas.... but i'm not sure why they didn't?
@NotSoFastDriver
@NotSoFastDriver 8 жыл бұрын
Ryukachoo As an Mazdaspeed Miata owner I can tell you, the intake and exhaust are very restrictive(due to regulations and what not). With aftermarket intake+exhaust the Mazdaspeed Miata easily jumps to the 180-200 wheel horse power territory.
@Ryukachoo
@Ryukachoo 8 жыл бұрын
oh! that's nice. from everything i have read by MSM owners, they stock turbo setup is very bad and difficult to get more power out of, had no idea it could get to 200whp at all
@BailOutVids
@BailOutVids 8 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the turbo in the MSM? It's microscopic. They could have had better performance gains strapping a hair dryer set to cool onto the intake.
@NotSoFastDriver
@NotSoFastDriver 8 жыл бұрын
The problem is getting anything beyond 200whp is a pain. The turbo is too small and the ecu leaves a lot to be desired. Personally, I'm pretty happy with a bolt on MSM, I know that a properly turboed Miata is faster, but mine I at least I have the ease of mind that mine just works. Plus, I don't need to do under the counter things to get my state inspection. Plus, the small turbo spools fast... And honestly the car has a pretty low top speed limit due to the gearing. So I don't really feel like I need more power than what I have.
@Pigeonbutter8790
@Pigeonbutter8790 8 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaaand the NB price just went up €500
@luisfloressidekick
@luisfloressidekick 8 жыл бұрын
DMV Miata and Jeep You called it an NB. I never heard this Mk1 or mk2 crap. only on supras. I always heard NA NB NC and the new ND. just like rx7s
@Mrsquiggley
@Mrsquiggley 8 жыл бұрын
luis flores there's mks on each gen. Nb mk1 had a 5 speed and shitty seats mk2 6 speed and good seats mk3 had vvt if I remember right
@jhiatt1516
@jhiatt1516 5 жыл бұрын
Right
@deleted_account3
@deleted_account3 4 жыл бұрын
Thats just great more people will be buying the nb meaning the prices with the na will go down
@janpena4976
@janpena4976 5 жыл бұрын
🎶“Pop up up and down head liiights!”🎶
@zhoutorres2677
@zhoutorres2677 5 жыл бұрын
POP UP UP AND DOWN HEADLIGHTS!!
@BondTheOGYT
@BondTheOGYT 8 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Alex isn't praising the Mk1 over the Mk2 😂😂
@Joshua-sj5gv
@Joshua-sj5gv 8 жыл бұрын
Bond hey!
@BondTheOGYT
@BondTheOGYT 8 жыл бұрын
Josh hey!
@Joshua-sj5gv
@Joshua-sj5gv 8 жыл бұрын
haha i just decided to say hey because i always see you in the comments :,D
@BondTheOGYT
@BondTheOGYT 8 жыл бұрын
Josh Well hello then, how's your day going?
@Joshua-sj5gv
@Joshua-sj5gv 8 жыл бұрын
Great, what about yours?
@brettcannon74
@brettcannon74 2 жыл бұрын
I looked for one over a year under $6k, mostly NAs. I found a rust free 2001 NB $3500 2 weeks ago and couldn't be happier with my decision. They are bargains!
@MotoGamesTV
@MotoGamesTV 8 жыл бұрын
Rubbish. 6 speed in 10th Anniversary edition (also offered in Miracle and Sportive and some other) wasn't for motorway cruising, it was for acceleration, combined ratio of diff and gearbox made 6th gear even slightly shorter than 5th in 5-speed version... Oh, and 152 BHP/160 PS was in Japan. Europe had only 146 PS with variable timing.
@turnip5465
@turnip5465 6 жыл бұрын
MotoGamesTV We still got 152 here in EU.. Dunno about you
@radbug
@radbug 5 жыл бұрын
this is accurate. the only way to really improve the stock NB at highway speeds is to swap the torsen 4.1 dif gear for the 3.9 or even australian 3.6, and/or put bigger wheels on it. in my opinion ideal setup is to put a v6 like the LF1 in there (or a supercharger on the BP), mounted to the 6 speed, with a torsen 3.9 gear, and carve out the fenders to fit some 17" x 9.5's under there. (maybe 9s in front 10s in back even) and dont be afraid to really stiffen up the rear end with a heavy crossbraced roll cage (and extend the bump stops maybe? shorten that lean distance)
@joshbacon8241
@joshbacon8241 4 жыл бұрын
I’m willing to bet that a Mk2 MX-5 with the 6-speed manual would still be doing the same RPM at 70mph in 6th gear as a Mk1 with the 5-speed would be in 5th gear.
@deleted_account3
@deleted_account3 4 жыл бұрын
You can tell this guys a nerd
@paulregener8509
@paulregener8509 3 жыл бұрын
@@radbug So basically change the whole car.
@oldcarproblems3332
@oldcarproblems3332 8 жыл бұрын
NB's aren't any cheaper than NA's in the US. Both great cars.
@Macnweed
@Macnweed 5 жыл бұрын
FlyingLap yes they are lol na go for more just cause they are more popular
@dxsires
@dxsires 5 жыл бұрын
@@Macnweed i see NAs for under $1000 weekly never seen a NB that low... wait I did once and it was totaled
5 жыл бұрын
@@Macnweed no they arent
@jamesbaker1392
@jamesbaker1392 4 жыл бұрын
Alex Regalado NAs are wayyy cheaper, most Broke boi’s get them, because they’re clapped out 200k shitboxes that are 2k. You almost never see an younger (16-28) year old with an actual low mileage clean NA, that might actually cost much more than 2k.
@hectorsoy
@hectorsoy 4 жыл бұрын
I live in LA and NBs are more expensive than NAs. Lot's of NAs are trashed, so hard to find a good example. I've seen NB prices start to climb up recently. You have to spend over $5k to get an NB in good, not great shape.
@diamondback662
@diamondback662 5 жыл бұрын
When I went to buy my first MX-5 I had a choice between an NA, NB and an NC model. I bought the NA. Never regretted it a day since. I still drive that car every day.
@boy638
@boy638 8 жыл бұрын
4:04 lol I had to pause to see what are those objects that flew out, and my goodness it was worth it
@rysingdragoon8735
@rysingdragoon8735 6 жыл бұрын
cvmiata that's a hair comb
@tman197
@tman197 6 жыл бұрын
LOL! The least favorite part of the car is the stigma...
@rysingdragoon8735
@rysingdragoon8735 5 жыл бұрын
@@casseth8030 I dont own any car lmao
@tripwire3992
@tripwire3992 5 жыл бұрын
@cvmiata comb
@bobbyross2023
@bobbyross2023 8 жыл бұрын
I bought an NB over an NA, and it was the best decision I've ever made! Love the car to death.
@hectorsoy
@hectorsoy 4 жыл бұрын
I've had both, and the NB which I currently drive is better! I love her! I did love my NA, but I had to sell it as I moved out of the country at the time.
@clayton8or
@clayton8or 8 жыл бұрын
I didnt initially like the NB, but after seeing better examples of it than CT's miata showdown that may or may not have been biased- i fell in love, so much so that the Mk2 is my favorite of the Miatas by far- its faster, handles still pretty well, and has beautiful styling changes that may be subtle, but make a big difference if you look at em both for awhile.
@BlendyStick
@BlendyStick 8 жыл бұрын
The sixth gear was actually not too far off fifth gear in a regular 5-speed. The extra gear was added in the lower end to even out the progression through ratios. The 6-speed however had a 3.9 rear end as opposed to the 4.3 on 1.6L models and 4.1 on previous 1.8L models, which is where the real difference lies.
@Kentageon
@Kentageon 7 жыл бұрын
I own one of the factory turbocharged MX5's. It's the second MX5 I've ever owned, and is by far the funnest car I've ever owned. A few bolt on upgrades bring the horsepower up to 211, with 183 foot pounds of torque.
@jerrellchiu9513
@jerrellchiu9513 8 жыл бұрын
The NB might be the better car, but the NA is the better Miata.
@shingosshojiopoulos6608
@shingosshojiopoulos6608 3 жыл бұрын
No
@shouldigetit
@shouldigetit 8 жыл бұрын
It's Friday, I drove my BRG MX-5 NA to work for once and now all I want to do is drive! I brought my lunch, but screw it, I'm goin out for lunch! Also pop-ups for life!
@zues2011
@zues2011 5 жыл бұрын
The MK1 MX-5 wasn't in NFS Underground, the MK2 was.
@Ethan007Hacks
@Ethan007Hacks 8 жыл бұрын
5spd doesn't cut it on the highway? try a 4spd
@thomasfeiner2958
@thomasfeiner2958 8 жыл бұрын
I know the struggle well...
@Topher7527
@Topher7527 8 жыл бұрын
Try a 3-speed. C-4 auto for the win! Haha. I really need to get to that 5 speed swap...
@DuBstep115
@DuBstep115 8 жыл бұрын
Atleast I get over 100kmh speed with my El camino SS first gear :D
@kai-matthiasbast8612
@kai-matthiasbast8612 5 жыл бұрын
Try a -8 speed
@kens97sto171
@kens97sto171 8 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the final drive ratio in the 6 SPD ends up being the same as the 5 SPD. so theoretically it should be quicker in the lower gears, but the delay in the extra shift adds time too. so it's kids a wash.. I think.
@mdouth258
@mdouth258 8 жыл бұрын
kens97sto171 You are correct, and the 5 speed has a nicer shift action than the 6. Stick to the 5 speed box 👌
@gofaast4630
@gofaast4630 8 жыл бұрын
kens97sto171 Actually compared to the 5-speed, highway rpm's are 300-400 rpms lower.
@roywhiteo5
@roywhiteo5 8 жыл бұрын
the 6 speed didnt feel good to shift. i borrowed my friends car for a day and i mis-shifted several times because the gates were too close. this is compared to my 350z
@GTFour
@GTFour 8 жыл бұрын
I thought the 6 speed was way closer ratio and had a lower FD?
@kens97sto171
@kens97sto171 8 жыл бұрын
roywhiteo5 That was my experience with them too. probably would learn it eventually.
@marcoseifert-simpson8138
@marcoseifert-simpson8138 8 жыл бұрын
So the 6 speed you mentioned doesn't have a taller final gear, it's about the same as the 5 speed, the 6 speed just has more gears packed into the same ratio range.
@youridv
@youridv 6 жыл бұрын
Marco Seifert-Simpson but is the final drive the same?
@gaivoron
@gaivoron 8 жыл бұрын
Mk??? I know it as NA and NB.
@WTGRacing
@WTGRacing 8 жыл бұрын
Lots of english cars back in the 50s 60s and 70s used "mk" as a generation designation. So many English people use Mk instead to this day. Source - My guess.
@Omie01
@Omie01 8 жыл бұрын
Vanneker Did you even watch the video?
@RazorSharp75426
@RazorSharp75426 8 жыл бұрын
so , probably NA = Mk 1 and NB = Mk 2
@tripwire3992
@tripwire3992 5 жыл бұрын
@@WTGRacing it's true
@Shazzkid
@Shazzkid 5 жыл бұрын
3:07 but the final drive ratio is the same on the 5 and 6 speed speed GBs, so no improved mpg on motorway.
@Cango1
@Cango1 8 жыл бұрын
Well I would say the NB is the better car while the NA is the better Miata
@radbug
@radbug 5 жыл бұрын
this dumb
@haydenboyer9193
@haydenboyer9193 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@mutingp
@mutingp 2 жыл бұрын
What does that mean??
@northamericanauto43
@northamericanauto43 8 жыл бұрын
Who gives a shit about the MK2. The MK1 has pop-ups!
@ElliottHurst
@ElliottHurst 4 жыл бұрын
Getting my MK2 tomorrow... Can't wait
@11jeopardy11
@11jeopardy11 8 жыл бұрын
the mark one looks happy and! it has pop up head lights
@Cykoid
@Cykoid 8 жыл бұрын
2:11 not to worry because in australia a tuning company uses the base mk2 and creates a car called the bullet and came with either a 13B rotary or a 430hp v8
@georgepeckmedia
@georgepeckmedia 8 жыл бұрын
Omg the website's real!! Check it out lol
@CarThrottle
@CarThrottle 8 жыл бұрын
Sssshhhhhh
@bencarmon
@bencarmon 8 жыл бұрын
what website
@zebfail480
@zebfail480 8 жыл бұрын
lol
@johanneseder27
@johanneseder27 8 жыл бұрын
watch the video again ;)
@FluffyChocoalteGames
@FluffyChocoalteGames 8 жыл бұрын
?
@ascarikz1r733
@ascarikz1r733 8 жыл бұрын
No pop up headlights = No fun
@Cobra_427
@Cobra_427 7 жыл бұрын
Ascari KZ1R the NB is a fun car, but I need my pop ups
@stancars9359
@stancars9359 6 жыл бұрын
Too bad the pop-up headlights are dead
@neonboy2290
@neonboy2290 5 жыл бұрын
Pop ups are trash
@6silvaaa4
@6silvaaa4 5 жыл бұрын
@@neonboy2290 u a bitch? Or a bitch?
@ReconTHG
@ReconTHG 3 жыл бұрын
4 years later £800 will get you pile of rust with mx5 badge…
@aDaWaN
@aDaWaN 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for noticing buyers about the chassis rail problems on the NB, it is really something to check when buying one. Mine were completely rotten, but I had time and a welder to fix it. Less handy people will have to spend at least 500 pounds to get it fixed properly.
@KarnKaul
@KarnKaul 8 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Sincerely curious: when is your powersliding vs. drifting video coming out? I've been waiting for it and have restrained myself from searching up the differences online for weeks now! :D
@CarThrottle
@CarThrottle 8 жыл бұрын
+Karn Kaul Soon...
@TheDecemberMember
@TheDecemberMember 8 жыл бұрын
Car Throttle The excitement is real
@shadowkeeper0
@shadowkeeper0 7 жыл бұрын
The 6th speed in the 6-speed gearbox is actually SHORTER than the 5th in a 5-speed gearbox...the only difference was a different final drive (3.636), which made all the gears longer. Also a lot of people prefer the 5-speed on its slightly better crispness. But the 6-speed is a bit sturdier though...
@tako8198
@tako8198 8 жыл бұрын
MK1 is still better
@tako8198
@tako8198 8 жыл бұрын
And I own a mk1
@barackputin
@barackputin 8 жыл бұрын
So your saying that it's better because you have it ugh salty owners
@tako8198
@tako8198 8 жыл бұрын
Vladimir Obama yeah, I know my comment was very biased
@chrisogrady28
@chrisogrady28 8 жыл бұрын
Unbiased then
@barackputin
@barackputin 8 жыл бұрын
very biased? *Extremely biased* *
@andrewwilson8317
@andrewwilson8317 8 жыл бұрын
Cant get past my hang up on pop up headlights,so my NA is staying. Mine has done everything,track days,hill climbs,sprints,the ring etc and never disappointed me or let me down. Nothing else comes close!
@michaelballack3405
@michaelballack3405 8 жыл бұрын
As a german I really, really appreciated the way you said Bilstein. :D
@JohnAdams-kc8wx
@JohnAdams-kc8wx 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. This is good for Anglo-German relations. Oh, and everyone seems to be forgetting - the Mk1 is so much better looking.
@marius0033
@marius0033 7 жыл бұрын
sincerily... the Mk1 miata stock looks like a boat without the top
@bacon.cheesecake
@bacon.cheesecake 8 жыл бұрын
Are you really going to be able to look at yourself in the morning knowing that your mx5 doesn't have pop-up headlights? Will you be able to live with that sort of weight on your shoulders? Will you be able to get through the day knowing that for a few hundred pounds more you could have gotten an mx5 with pop-up headlights? These are things to consider before buying a superior, popupheadlamp-less mx5 mk2.
@methylene5
@methylene5 7 жыл бұрын
ikr
@Thiborfirenz
@Thiborfirenz 6 жыл бұрын
just brought a 2002 mk2 for £1500 in mint condition. extremely happy with my purchase, every time I get out of it I have a big smile on my face, it is so much fun to drive! I haven't had a rear wheel drive since my opel manta some 20 years ago, so its taken me about a week to start getting used to how it drives.
@presidentkimi975
@presidentkimi975 8 жыл бұрын
Two words: pop headlights.
@brane1872
@brane1872 8 жыл бұрын
President Casey they are called pop-up headlights
@pistolpete7280
@pistolpete7280 6 жыл бұрын
I personally think the NB looks way better than the NA
@MartyTheGamer
@MartyTheGamer 8 жыл бұрын
_Bil*SH*tein dampers_ **DEUTSCHLAND INTENSIFIES**
@DAISYMAYK123
@DAISYMAYK123 8 жыл бұрын
NC is the awkward child, not the NB
@TheOdd
@TheOdd 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah but pop up headlights make the Mk1 infinitely better.
@johntelekom9712
@johntelekom9712 4 жыл бұрын
Im gonna be real with you, I dont like the popups of the mk1. The shape looks so stupid, the circle really doesnt work, Im already looking if there are boxy ones. (What I mean is I love popups but dont like the shape the ones of the miata have, they feel like space is wasted and it generally makes the car look worse. For me, the perfect popups are some like on the AE86, they look much better)
@Ryukachoo
@Ryukachoo 8 жыл бұрын
mk2 can be improved (visally) quite a lot with headlight eyelids i know, i know, eyelids are super ricy, but very mild eyelids on the mk2 make it much more aggressive in a good way using the mazdaspeed front bumper helps too
@reliicx
@reliicx 8 жыл бұрын
Alex is just being nice. He probably hella salty doing this video. 😂
@StealthXY
@StealthXY 8 жыл бұрын
I swear Car Throttle is one of the best channel for car aficionados and my favorite! You've been putting out a lot of quality videos lately!
@Obi-WanKannabis
@Obi-WanKannabis 8 жыл бұрын
The Toyota MR2 is the best. Mid engine, light and pop up headlights. What more could you ask for?
@itsallac0nspiracy
@itsallac0nspiracy 8 жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan Kannabis Agreed, mate. Good taste! I have driven NA and NB MX-5/Eunos Roadster's and never wanted to own one. My Rev 3 turbo MR2 shits on them in every way. It is funny when you encounter one that thinks it is quick. 99% of them aren't.
@TheOklep
@TheOklep 8 жыл бұрын
NA is much more fun to drive. I own NA and my friend MR2 sw20 rev1, and I much much more prefer my car in terms of feel and handling. In MR2 I feel disconected, steering is vague, and whole handling is "meh" in terms of feel. It is understeery because of light front end and skinnier tyres in front, but also it can be dangerous because of sudden snap oversteer. In other words, its not neutral handling. NA in other hand is sharp, it has faster seering ratio, it respond immediately to any input and the neutral handling due to 50:50 weight distribution is amazing. NA is much more pure, visceral and it has that vintage feel to it, while SW20 feels much more modern and refined. It is still a great car tho
@Obi-WanKannabis
@Obi-WanKannabis 8 жыл бұрын
itsallac0nspiracy Unfortunaly in my country it's super hard to find MR2s on sale. So I'd probably go for the MX-5 just because it's really my only option, even if I could find and MR2 parts for it over here are probably really expensive. But I would take it oven an MX-5 if I had the opportunity.
@daniellewis7020
@daniellewis7020 7 жыл бұрын
I own an MR2 SW20 rev 1 and I completely disagree, it is the most fun car I have ever driven. Sounds like your friend's MR2 is a bit pants to be honest, as mine is none of the things you described there. Also though, my brother owns an NA and that is the second most fun car I have driven :)
@itsallac0nspiracy
@itsallac0nspiracy 7 жыл бұрын
The best thing about an SW20 turbo is that you have to respect it. With even standard power they take skill and experience to get the most out of them. These cars aren't dangerous, but take liberties and they will chew you up and spit you out. Anyone can jump in an MX-5 and give it death, try it with an MR2 and you will lose. They are seriously quick and very rewarding, though!
@assettodrifters1556
@assettodrifters1556 8 жыл бұрын
phil is a grandfather of all MX 5 generations :D
@statesidesupercars
@statesidesupercars 8 жыл бұрын
1 reason why you shouldn't buy ANY generation of the MX5: RUST.
@bt4670
@bt4670 8 жыл бұрын
statesidesupercars Being an owner of an NB I can tell you that it's quite exaggerated and won't be an issue if you take proper care.
@devon-tl8ew
@devon-tl8ew 8 жыл бұрын
so fuckin what? then no one should ever buy an older BMW since those can seriously rot the fuck out to the point where you'll find yourself buying replacement doors. stupid comment from a very stupid person..
@vicmacarra
@vicmacarra 8 жыл бұрын
Mine is perfect but it depends on the wheater of the country
@TescoRoadman
@TescoRoadman 8 жыл бұрын
statesidesupercars you make it sound like the mx5 is the only car in the world that suffers from this issue. Lmao if you get it repaired properly instead of using Jim down your local garage, and rust proofed afterwards, it'll last you 10+years no problem. Much longer if it isn't a daily
@tako8198
@tako8198 8 жыл бұрын
statesidesupercars I live in California and my Miata 1990 has no rust
@pete3198
@pete3198 5 жыл бұрын
Plenty of advantages for the NA as well. Better steering, a more spacious interior (due to less bloaty interior trim), better sounding and free-er revving engine (the 1.6), better fuel economy, and cooler styling. :)
@tripwire3992
@tripwire3992 5 жыл бұрын
And dem pop ups
@aymanbarakat186
@aymanbarakat186 8 жыл бұрын
I'm on the search for an NC version, I'm in love with the 3rd gen Miata
@EZCarnivore
@EZCarnivore 8 жыл бұрын
Have one myself, definitely recommend it! I'd say go for a 2009 or newer with forged internals though, I blew the motor in my 2006. Got to put in a 2.5L though, so it was worth it in the end.
@aymanbarakat186
@aymanbarakat186 8 жыл бұрын
エックザック how did the 06 blow? Was it boosted? I don't plan on boosting it immediately my intentions are to do a lot of handling work to make it an auto X monster.
@EZCarnivore
@EZCarnivore 8 жыл бұрын
Spun a bearing. Not boosted, just ran it too hard with not enough oil, and without letting it get up to temperature a few times. Lesson learned, check the oil level frequently and keep it topped off...
@toroseye
@toroseye 8 жыл бұрын
Ayman Barakat I like the nd best
@hewbambam
@hewbambam 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought my first miata on Friday. Absolutely loving it! It's a na6, the only downside is it's a short nose.
@super_slav91
@super_slav91 8 жыл бұрын
Mazda has the worst quality steel known to man, especially during the era of the mk2 when they imported the steel from China to save money, not so good in Europe and the Rust belt in NA, or anywhere else with snow for that matter. That is why you don't see Mazdas very often in Europe.
@tripwire3992
@tripwire3992 5 жыл бұрын
Except the UK where I'm from since we hardly get snow here just rain
@andydiverdavies
@andydiverdavies 7 жыл бұрын
Just had front chassis rails done on my NB, Can and is missed on MOT's due to plastic trim within wheel arches. also had both sills replaced £1000ish to replace and paint the lot. We have had her for 6 years looks like well have a few more now..
@jarlborg1531
@jarlborg1531 8 жыл бұрын
Now do 6 reasons why a Mk3 is better than a Mk2. ;)
@xXCookieXx666
@xXCookieXx666 8 жыл бұрын
Jarl Borg except there isn't even 6 reasons lol
@jarlborg1531
@jarlborg1531 8 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought until I swapped my Mk2.5 for a Mk3 2.0. The handling and chassis stiffness is in a different league.
@TheOklep
@TheOklep 8 жыл бұрын
NC miata does not exist in our eyes. There is only NA, NB and ND
@jarlborg1531
@jarlborg1531 8 жыл бұрын
***** I can't comment on the ND but I've owned the first three and the only thing I miss is waves from Mk1/Mk2 drivers.
@TheBlackSkimmer
@TheBlackSkimmer 6 жыл бұрын
I would wave at you.
@supergoat94
@supergoat94 8 жыл бұрын
I agree. I had one for years, a 99 5 speed. Loved it. Recently sold it for a Z4, I miss the MX-5 still.
@BESIMXCARS
@BESIMXCARS 8 жыл бұрын
Dammit CT made a video explaining why a car is good and cheap to buy. Now the values are going to shoot up.
@TescoRoadman
@TescoRoadman 8 жыл бұрын
BESIM X CARS the value won't go up. They're shit compared to the mk1
@BESIMXCARS
@BESIMXCARS 8 жыл бұрын
yup and my comment was a joke
@tambo153
@tambo153 8 жыл бұрын
me and my dad have a mk1 and it brought closer and gave us a great time
@paulius5017
@paulius5017 8 жыл бұрын
Is mk1 good first car for 17 year old? I mean price and insurance. I live in uk too btw
@paulius5017
@paulius5017 8 жыл бұрын
Sam Kent Shit, i really wanted mx5 as my first car. What about NB? Will it still be so expensive to insure?
@TescoRoadman
@TescoRoadman 8 жыл бұрын
The Paul your best bet will be to pass your test and then run quotes online to see what it'll cost to insure. I can't speak for everyone when I say it'll be expensive, because so many variables go into it like where you live, your postcode, age, occupation etc etc. You may well be able to get a mk1 or 2, and like I said, if you can afford it, go for it. They're so much fun
@paulius5017
@paulius5017 8 жыл бұрын
Sam Kent Yeah i know they are really fun cars, thats why i want them so bad. Anyway thanks for reply!
@nilslauhoff
@nilslauhoff 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah get one! I'm 17 too and I got my mk1 for christmas. I'm in love with it!
@bandombeviews6035
@bandombeviews6035 8 жыл бұрын
Id go for a e30.
@OAwesomeO
@OAwesomeO 7 жыл бұрын
i decided to get the 2nd gen simply because it was in the best condition out of the miatas in my price range. i bought it from the original owner who was a doctor and had it in his garage just as a fun vehicle, so its in excellent condition and im glad i decided to get her
@jamieee321
@jamieee321 8 жыл бұрын
1 reason the mk1 is better : pop-up headlights
@TheBishop12
@TheBishop12 5 жыл бұрын
jamieee321 the only reason
@LaccerHS
@LaccerHS 5 жыл бұрын
Also, front lips, side skirts, lights and so on cost less for the MK1 for some reason. For the NB there is only one aftermarket headlight option (even that is NBFL only) while for the MK1 you can get TSI intakes, angel eye pop ups and all the stuff.
@whiskey-f1p
@whiskey-f1p 5 жыл бұрын
1:46 that plate
@simaris1900
@simaris1900 8 жыл бұрын
Now watch the mk2 mx-5 value go up slowly after this video.
@tripwire3992
@tripwire3992 5 жыл бұрын
Good! Now I can get a cheaper NA
@chazdriver551
@chazdriver551 6 жыл бұрын
just bought a 99 with 32k miles picking it up tmr im pumped
@astina7574
@astina7574 8 жыл бұрын
As long as it's an MX-5, I don't care. I'll buy one.
@21callum21
@21callum21 8 жыл бұрын
Bought a Mk 2.5 last month and have to say it's been the most exciting month of driving I've experienced. Not the fastest car in the world, but like so many people say, it's how the car makes you feel.
@blazepine
@blazepine 8 жыл бұрын
still getting an NA.
@ilyasrayan4791
@ilyasrayan4791 7 жыл бұрын
For a Daily Driving, I am pretty happy to have a mk2 over a mk1. NB/NBFL Miata are the best compromise between Mk1 experience and comfort with more recent equipment & features. Although I love my NBFL youngster, I am pretty sure that driving an Mk1 on a race track is a better experience than with an mk2.
@BlueXonar
@BlueXonar 7 жыл бұрын
I have an early 1998 MK2. Essentially the worst of both worlds.
@HardwayLearning
@HardwayLearning 7 жыл бұрын
I thought the extra gear doesn't actually change the final drive? It only gives you closer gear ratios?
@E55BaeMG
@E55BaeMG 8 жыл бұрын
mk1 on thumbnail says fml.
@RazorSharp75426
@RazorSharp75426 8 жыл бұрын
the good thing about MX5s was it's a good track day car for the starters , and you can date a hairdresser with it. [ personally I prefer the Mk 2 over the Mk1 ]
@colehouston9663
@colehouston9663 8 жыл бұрын
hell no. mk1 is way better
@colehouston9663
@colehouston9663 8 жыл бұрын
wait no forgot I can't have an opinion on the internet.
@tripwire3992
@tripwire3992 5 жыл бұрын
@@colehouston9663 yes u can
@mino7122
@mino7122 8 жыл бұрын
so alex... we know what's coming next 🤔😂
@barackputin
@barackputin 8 жыл бұрын
The Prius is better than a turbocharged Supra
@DuBstep115
@DuBstep115 8 жыл бұрын
Turbocharged prius is better than boeing 767
@baddriversofeurotrucksimul5759
@baddriversofeurotrucksimul5759 8 жыл бұрын
Nissan Leaf in an hour is better than Boeing 767 in an hour.
@JamesParkin27
@JamesParkin27 7 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend a mk 1 as a first car when you are 17, I’ve seen a few on eBay around £900
@dk07224
@dk07224 3 жыл бұрын
happy 20th birthday
@JamesParkin27
@JamesParkin27 3 жыл бұрын
@@dk07224 ahahah thanks, not quite there yet. My birthday is in april
@Seandoestech
@Seandoestech 8 жыл бұрын
these cars are virtually identical in terms of driving experience, but the NB just looks better. period.
@terminallychill4429
@terminallychill4429 6 жыл бұрын
If you can find an nb for cheaper than an na in the sane co condition lmk
@wadeguidry6675
@wadeguidry6675 7 жыл бұрын
The NB has a beautiful body style that will be a classic someday. The NA looks like an ugly soapbox with pop up headlights.
@mmhoss
@mmhoss 6 жыл бұрын
Wade Guidry Agreed. I own a 91 and would've much preferred an NB
@blarpo7385
@blarpo7385 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like the NA looks better, since the NA looks more unique.
@mutingp
@mutingp 3 жыл бұрын
@@blarpo7385 u mean that caus it has a pop up head lights right?
@blarpo7385
@blarpo7385 3 жыл бұрын
@@mutingp yeah, and just the generally easier to shift 5 speed, as the 6 speed is well known to be a bitch to shift on the 6th gear, from what i've heard from nb drivers that i've talked with
@mutingp
@mutingp 3 жыл бұрын
@@blarpo7385 well all of them are great cars any way
@ARJFordHP
@ARJFordHP 8 жыл бұрын
Great, but what happened to the differences between drifting and power sliding video? I'm truly looking forward to watching that video!
@Waffles24
@Waffles24 8 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why everyone thinks that just because you have a 6 speed, the car will automatically be better for cruising. That is just plain WRONG. Yes you get an extra gear, but the ratios are shorter for the 6 speed. This means that compared to a 5 speed, the 6 speed actually revs HIGHER when cruising. What dictates the low and desirable cruising speed people look for is the differential ratios and final drive gear.
@brodieaamodt9181
@brodieaamodt9181 4 жыл бұрын
Us aussies got an ealier NB turbo in 2002-2003 called the SP, that made 210hp stock, although only around 130 were made. The SE (Mazdaspeed) made around 175ish hp.
@UndyingSilentm
@UndyingSilentm 5 жыл бұрын
NA and NB, not MK1 and MK2 you dingus! It's not a Volkswagen
@stiobhandughlasbrus8180
@stiobhandughlasbrus8180 8 жыл бұрын
Bought my NB yesterday :)
@harrisonbaker8481
@harrisonbaker8481 8 жыл бұрын
but you can't argue with pop up headlamps
@stancars9359
@stancars9359 6 жыл бұрын
Nooo that’s the only thing better about the mk1 sure they look great but now they are dead and aren’t special
@ROQFAN
@ROQFAN 8 жыл бұрын
I'm just trying to have a good morning after working hard yesterday and you guys have to release this video? Come on now guys.
@itrollluimarcodaylee4751
@itrollluimarcodaylee4751 8 жыл бұрын
Plz notice me
@Tucnak2o0
@Tucnak2o0 6 жыл бұрын
hi
@jetkeith
@jetkeith 8 жыл бұрын
Can't believe your timing on this. My little brother's Mazdaspeed was totaled 5 days ago on Angeles Crest, near LA, in a hit and run. Brother is okay. After I got there, the car got towed, and we were headed home, we saw the wrong doers walking down the hwy after they ditched their car. Called 911 and CHP got the fu**ers. Justice will be served but the Mazdaspeed is gone. I swear if anyone comments "cool story bro". Lol! But thanks for rubbing it in Car Throttle!
@VivicaGsy
@VivicaGsy 8 жыл бұрын
No pop-ups, no deal.
@stancars9359
@stancars9359 6 жыл бұрын
Why? They are dead get over it sure they are awesome but accept it
@sethalton205
@sethalton205 7 жыл бұрын
So the market here is that the MKII's are still more expensive. They didn't mention that the biggest part of the MKII's power comes from the head. Most of them came with LSD's where as the MKI's were 50/50 chance. Also an issue with the 99+ Miata's was the weak coil packs. (All stuff I wish I knew prior to getting into my NB) Spent $2K on having a shop chop the subframe rails that had rusted out and welded new ones in (that was with me pulling the front end apart to cut costs). So if you find one with that rust... if they'll take $800 and it runs... it might be worth it.
@djhero0071
@djhero0071 8 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry Alex but pop up headlights really aren't that amazing.
@stancars9359
@stancars9359 6 жыл бұрын
Hey sure they look great but now they are long dead and never come back and aren’t anything special
@MaikEletrica
@MaikEletrica 7 жыл бұрын
Pop up headlights is the best!
@trevorvaneeckhoutte663
@trevorvaneeckhoutte663 8 жыл бұрын
lol "mk1" "mk2" any Miata lover would say "NA" "NB"
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