6 Separate Campers Disappear in Wonnangatta Valley. What Happened to them?

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#hiking
#Wonnangatta
#button-man
Hello everyone, in today's video we will be discussing 5 Separate cases of campers who seemingly vanished in Wonnangatta Valley which is in Southeast Australia in the State of Victoria in Alpine National Park.
These cases took place all the way back from 2008 up to 2021.
4 of these hikers are still missing and the 2 that were found were not found alive:(
We are going to be discussing the disappearance of Niels Becker, Carol Clay and Russell Hill. David Prideaux, Conrad Whitlock and Warren Meyer.
If you have any information regarding any of these cases please contact Crime Stoppers or the Mansfield Police on [phone].
My thoughts and prayers go out to all of these people, their families and loved ones and all the authorities, search and rescue, and volunteers that went out looking for them🙏🙏 I hope and pray that all of you will get closure one day🙏
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[@chimom7112]

Thank you for using a human voice. Getting harder to find.

[@annbarbarag9152]

I definitely know what you mean. I can’t listen to the channels with the computer voices. I love Bryan’s voice. He’s always so genuine and compassionate.

[@user-gi8ke8ef8d]

Human voicers are the only ones that exist. Some dogs & cats can speak English but they have very limited vocabularies. There are thousands of Alien immigrants on Earth but they speak almost perfect English. Humans are still the vast majority.

[@jozefhorvat3625]

👌👌👌👍👍👍

[@rockmillar8641]

I can't tell anymore...😢❤

[@stevencusworth7219]

Are U sure.sounded like computer to me.anywho?

[@drgunsmith4099]

Losing a loved one that’s gone missing but then finding out they having a affair then finding them murdered...oh wow that’s on another level.

[@dalhousiekid]

Crazy!

[@bawattsyl]

Yes very sad and it just seems based on the evidence they have against the accused, they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.. thy trial has been delayed several times but supposedly it is going to start sometime soon.. thank you for watching and your feedback!

[@cliveblacksheep2522]

They caught the killer, he was a pilot

[@bawattsyl]

@@cliveblacksheep2522 I know I talk all about him and the evidence and trial in the video.... I'm guessing you didn't watch the full video or? But yes I talk in depth about how they caught him, various evidence and witnesses, his upcoming trial etc.. thank you for watching!

[@sleuthinsandals1230]

One of the most convoluted and fascinating, but so was the prison guard guy: lots of rumours regarding connections with his job influencing his actions.. gangland violence was at a fever pitch in Melbourne at that time and he was in charge of some of the worst in the bunch.

[@begedabe]

My grandmother Dorothy Foster went missing there, 20 years ago.her car was found but she was never found. She was an old lady that the police said " took a wrong turn due to having early signs ofdementia

[@mj.l]

damn, i’m so sorry. how heartbreaking for you and your family.

[@andrewmckeown6786]

Belief in Ocum's Razor is legit. Definitely some...perhaps most, of the disappearances are natural situations that thru some additional odd twist, keep the people from being located BUT Some percentage of them are, one has to conclude, the product of something beyond our day 2 day physical reality.... Which like say, bigfoot(Yowie) experiences, if 1, out of the 10s of thousands, are true... Then..... These things exist. I also find it off-putting that only we, modern humans, are the only group in our recorded history, that denies any possibility of a....less physically based aspect of our existence....except of course when it is convenient or expedient for us to invoke it..

[@bawattsyl]

Omg I'm so sorry to hear that:( did the police do a real search and rescue or just write out off as someone who just got lost? I'm so sorry for you and your family, I can imagine how sad and frustrating that must be never getting answers:( I hope and pray one day you will🙏🙏 thank you for sharing and I'm truly sorry for your loss🙏

[@elizabethredding272]

Its weird how police can't find people who disappear but yrs later if the body is found its always near where the person disappeared how do searchers miss finding them sorry to hear about ur gran

[@bawattsyl]

@@elizabethredding272 it's definitely mysterious.. sometimes this can be attributed to people walking in circles or making their way into areas that were already searched.. in so many places the vegetation is so thick you can be standing one meter apart wearing bright orange and not be able to see the other searchers. There are many possibilities in these cases.. but yes it's definitely weird when this happens. Thank you for watching and your feedback!

[@01baia]

I live in the State where all these cases occurred. Sadly the Australian bush can be very very hard to search. These cases have all been covered effectively by our local media. But even with the publicity, some of these cases remain unsolved as you have pointed out. My sympathies go out to all the families and loved ones of the people in this video. But special condolences are due to those whose loved ones have never been located. 😢😭

[@bawattsyl]

Thank you for sharing! I appreciate your feedback and getting insight from people in the area. All these cases are very sad like you said.. thank you for watching and your feedback🙏

[@TheSamleigh]

That’s a hell of a job - well done - thank you.

[@bawattsyl]

@@TheSamleigh thank you for your kind words! Appreciate your feedback! Thank you for watching!

[@kathyashton6182]

Hi from South Gippsland Victoria. 👋🇦🇺

[@bawattsyl]

@@kathyashton6182 hello! Thank you for watching and saying hello:)

[@megsinaus4207]

Won-on-gatta. Mell-bin. Mt Bull-a. Aussie pronunciation 👍🥰

[@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing]

more mel-ben than mel-bin, a kiwi might sound mel-bin

[@megsinaus4207]

@@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing tru dat soz!

[@bawattsyl]

Sorry as always I looked the names up and also looked at three different reports and that's how they pounced it here. My bad. Thank you for the correction and for watching!

[@jessanna4138]

Yes Bull as in 🐂 😂

[@heynai7028]

⁠@@bawattsyl I do enjoy hearing how a lot of our towns and cities get pronounced around the world, it usually gives me a giggle. I know I butcher other countries place names at times. I think Melbourne is generally mispronounced because of the city in America with the same spelling.

[@Yosetime]

I was in Australia nearly 25 years ago now. We drove further south of Melbourne to stay in a campground type resort (we stayed in a rustic hotel because we didn't have camping gear as tourists). It was April. I remember thinking that if you swapped out the different species of trees, and kangaroo for deer, it felt exactly like our home near the Rocky Mountains in southern Canada. Also like Canada, Australia's landscape and climate is completely different from one coast to the other. Every side of Australia is like a different country. But the area talked about in this video, felt just like home when I was there. Just a side note. Thanks for another great video!

[@MystLily]

That's pretty cool to know about the similarity in feels. Canada is the one place in the world I would like to experience living in for the full 4 seasons and I love the landscape in all movies that are filmed in Canada. Australia is vast but even though accidents happen and we do have some bitey creatures it still comes down to the ones that mostly don't get found is because there was human intervention which is sad. Pays to be safety conscious anywhere we go in the world and know the landscapes

[@bawattsyl]

Thank you for sharing your experiences and your feedback🙏 thank you for watching! I hope to visit Australia someday and explore all over🙏

[@matteo_syd7271]

There's deer there too

[@onemorecast200]

There is actually 6 species of deer here...

[@ufocatalunya5693]

You guys have Bigfoot we have Yowies

[@carolyns99]

Interesting to see some Australian cases. The only one I can remember hearing about is Russell and Carol because it was so mysterious and pretty prominent in the media - the police really pleyed that one close to the chest. I vaguely remember when they first announced them finding the bodies miles away and wondering what they knew to lead them there before all the info came out. Just a couple of place name pronunctiations: Mt Buller = bull-er, Sale = sail, Melbourne = Mel-burn (or Melb'n, we're pretty lazy!).

[@monotremata9892]

Wonnangatta is eerily spooky even during the day let alone at night .

[@user-ct4yr9ke7h]

Thanks for showcasing our beautiful country and its weirdness. Over 50,000 people go missing each year here and a percentage of those are never heard or seen again. There’s plenty of space to hide and plenty of space to hide things.

[@Cant_prove_god]

Although remarkable for its remoteness, Wonnangatta may have remained largely unknown except for two murders which occurred there in December 1917/January 1918. The body of the caretaker, Jim Barclay was discovered by one of Wonnangatta’s first white occupants, Harry Smith, who lived in (relatively) nearby Eaglevale, by now an elderly man, who used to call in one every three weeks or so with the mail. At first the cook John Bamford was suspected of the murder, but his body was also found some months later. The mystery was never solved, despite wide coverage of the inquests and investigation in the newspapers.

[@bawattsyl]

Yes yes! I covered that case s few days after I uploaded this video.. its the video I was mentioning in this video that I would be uploading shortly.. check it out if you would like or haven't already and let me know your thoughts! Thank you for watching and your feedback!

[@ws4051]

This was our backyard growing up. The Australian bush is dense, old timers mines everywhere in the high county.

[@bawattsyl]

Oh wow! How was it growing up there? Did you do a lot of exploring? I'm guessing as kids probably not due to how dense and difficult the terrain is but I'm sure you have some great stories! Thank you for watching and your feedback 🙏

[@TruthQuest-st1fo]

...and huge beasty Dogman...L very heard an encounter in Omeo.....

[@HappyHermitt]

Looks like Yowie territory

[@littleredwitch]

It is!

[@ufocatalunya5693]

Scary isn’t it, maybe dogman too who knows

[@samanthafairweather9186]

Yep. As someone who grew up in the Blue Mountains (Faulconbridge , NSW), I know there's some strange shit in the bush!

[@ufocatalunya5693]

@@samanthafairweather9186 Blue Mountains is their home too!

[@triumphant2600]

What's a Yowie

[@user-wt4kz1li4g]

Crazy Crazy and sad:( Hopefully the families of all these missing campers will get answers one day! Thank you for doing this video.. I've never seen or heard of any of these cases. Prayers for all the families!

[@bawattsyl]

Yes definitely very mysterious and the search and rescue teams said these were all very difficult and dangerous searches.. but yes hopefully one day the families will get closure 🙏Thank you for watching and your feedback🙏🙏

[@tlm19628]

thank you Bryan.🫶🏼🙏🏼✌🏼

[@bawattsyl]

@@tlm19628 thank you for watching and your comment🙏🙏

[@wildmountainthyme4123]

Thank you, Bryan, for your caring compassionate coverage of these sad cases.

[@bawattsyl]

Thank you for watching and your kind feedback🙏

[@pattpatt7369]

The elderly couple were murdered, the murderer was cought and charged

[@lukesrandomhistory]

'alleged' murderer. Trial beginning this week.

[@stevencusworth7219]

Caught.bro.caught.

[@stevencusworth7219]

Not cough with a t

[@bawattsyl]

Yes, I talked about that in the video. And his trial is finally going on right now! They aren't really covering it all here in the USA but some people in Australia have been updating me. With all the evidence against him, it seems like a pretty straightforward case. Thank you for watching and your feedback!

[@jessanna4138]

I live about 3 hours away from this area, back towards Melbourne. A couple of stories i hadn't heard about. The only thing i can think of with people vanishing out here is there's so many abandoned mine shafts. Tunnel's underground everywhere. Entrances covered with brush and just a big gaping hole metres down. U have to stick to the paths. That would explain the heat defectors from the helicopter not finding anything. Its very sad. R.I.P to all in this video. And thank you for the upload, im a new sub ❤🦘 Much love from the Yarra Valley Melbourne Victoria Australia 🌏

[@gardensofthegods]

If you scroll up to a comment by somebody called maddyg that's very interesting and then read the reply to them by imperm and that one is very interesting as they talk about their brother hiking there and he said how easy it was to get lost because a lot of times the trail would just totally vanish and would just be all covered with vegetation and that it wasn't taken care of and kept clear by the park itself and the Brother had run out of water and that wants this happens you can't think clearly or move or do anything and just how horrific it was that in his last day there he had to hike 46 miles ... sounds to me like the place is just too dangerous and people should maybe think about avoiding it unless they go with a group that could hopefully guarantee a better chance of survival

[@gardensofthegods]

Also in a comment after that somebody said that it is so dense there in some parts that you cannot even see people you are there with that you got separated from who are literally only a few meters from you

[@gardensofthegods]

And I scrolled down a little ways and somebody said there's been a pack of wild dogs there for four or five generations now that are supposed to be dangerous

[@sleuthinsandals1230]

Nice job Brian. As a Victorian I've hiked up in the alpine areas a few times and its really a stunning, unique and quite rough place to walk. Its deceptively peaceful and the weather up there can change in a dime, up to 40 plus centigrade, plunging into freezing snow flurries that blow in straight from Antartica, all in a day! These tragic losses remind us to keep our loved ones informed about our plans, and maybe motives too! E perp's need to become mandatory as these massive searches are just such monumental exercises! ❤love yr show Brian 😊

[@gardensofthegods]

Plus somebody in the comments said that because they don't take good care of the trail there it can often disappear and be covered with dense overgrowth causing a person to get lost .

[@maddyg3208]

Me and two others got lost while walking in this exact valley in 1985. We could not find the track we wanted and had to take a much longer alternativeme route, resulting in a 46km hike on the last day

[@impermanenthuman8427]

My brother got the time record for the full length of the Australian Alpine Walking track from Wauchope to the ACT, he got so lost at one point he spent half a day just confirming he was lost and finding where he was, he then spent the rest of the day finding the track again, he said by the time he got to water he was very dehydrated. It’s not just that people might get lost, even if they have enough clothing, shelter and food, if they can’t get to water before the effects of dehydration set in they can’t move or think in order to save themselves, and depending on the weather this can happen quite quickly. He said you can barely call most of the track a ‘track’ as it was so over grown you couldn’t see the ground in front of you let alone where to walk and that is was a ‘disgrace’ that such a well known track was so poorly maintained. While he was out there another hiker had to use his PLB for an emergency extraction. And on another occasion a small group of Australian military soldiers tried to complete the whole track and also needed emergency extraction as it was too difficult for them, particularly in full mil spec gear which is far from light let alone ultralight, so even the ‘track’ can be too hard for many, let alone lost in even more rugged terrain

[@deldridg]

@@impermanenthuman8427 Coming from Wauchope, your comment got my attention! Minor correction - the track is actually from Walhalla to the ACT, not Wauchope. 🙂 There are some great walks around Wauchope though! In any case, your brother's achievement is quite remarkable. I remember watching a short film about a young guy on Tom's Outdoors channel. The guy's name was Dominic and I remember commenting and being very impressed, being an avid hiker myself. As you say, serious hiking does require good preparation, high levels of fitness and decent topographical mapping and knowledge of how to use it. The AAWT can be especially brutal, particularly given the remoteness of much of it. Cheers - David

[@impermanenthuman8427]

@@deldridg sorry yea Walhalla 😬👍🏻

[@gardensofthegods]

​@@impermanenthuman8427wow you should tell this again and some other spots in this vid and maybe other vids about this park ... maybe somebody will hear you say how dangerous it really is and the fact that it's path is not even properly kept clear so people can't even stay on the path because in some places it's actually just gone is a warning that might save some lives

[@bawattsyl]

I'm glad you made it out safe! It looks and seems like such a sense and rugged area.. so thick with vegetation etc, I can see getting turned around pretty easy.. even for people who are very familiar with the area.. thank you for watching and sharing your experiences 🙏

[@Firefy29]

Another Bullseye! Thanks for sending the advanced notice! I have never heard of any of these cases and definitely very scary and creepy:( I hope the families of those missing campers will get closure one day! Great research and content as always! Thank you!

[@bawattsyl]

Thank you, yes very strange and sad:( hopefully one day other people out there will find some clues that help lead to finding these people 🙏thanks as always for watching and your feedback!

[@IanP1963]

​@@bawattsylDo you think it's a serial killer? Back from Balkans - plenty to climb there 👍

[@jasmine0354]

Wow, Bryan ! You're headed towards 100,000 subscribers pretty fast ! Way to go ! 🎉 Thank you for your excellent videos and hard work !

[@bawattsyl]

Thank you! I appreciate your support and thank you for watching!

[@judymarie1]

Beautiful comments at the end of the video. Cheers from Canada.

[@Womble1252]

I hiked up there for a night with mates years ago and some f knob deer hunters aimed their guns at us and laughed as we come over a crest on the trail, then pointed their guns at us again for their version of fun, couldn't really argue with them in the middle of nowhere 😢

[@alfredoramirez2790]

That’s awful. But that makes you wonder if they have actually killed somebody before

[@evelynsaba5022]

Blessings to all the wonderful helpers of search and rescue, And everyone that helps to look for a lost one. This is giving the loved ones a hope and it gives the family a breather to think better as where to look. You're all kind caring wonderfull people to help other's, please know the world isgratefull to you all. It's people like you all that show how we're meant to be towards each other ❤❤ xoxo

[@simonefeaster5131]

Bryan, I’m so glad I caught the update on the couple having an affair and their campsite being torched! I heard the story a couple of years back, so your update is much appreciated. So glad there may be some justice for the victims and their families.

[@bawattsyl]

No problem, the trial was supposed to start in February but apparently the guy has one of the best defense lawyers in Australia... and they have been delaying it for pecuniary reasons and other issues.. I left out the part that when they went to his house, there were guns and knives everywhere.. and he up against some pretty tough physical evidence. I left a lot of sources in the description on each case if you want to do any follow up reading. Thank you for watching and your feedback!

[@jademelrose8765]

So many people missing in one place has to be a lot more than a coincidence?

[@LovelyLass-nb8op]

I live in Victoria, those places allegedly have bad actors involved in drugs involved with growing

[@matteo_syd7271]

​@@LovelyLass-nb8op Bad actors?

[@matteo_syd7271]

What update? He just told us stuff that's common knowledge

[@summerrain7956]

Bryan, thank you for sharing these cases. My prayers for all the families🙏🏼

[@JohnDoe-ds6pr]

There were only two campsites in the area. The old couple had the place to themselves and were enjoying a quiet night. The pilot was a regular camper there. He had an argument with his wife that day, and angrily headed out camping on his own upon dark, ending up right near the couple. He continued drinking and playing loud music right near them. It is alleged the old man asked him to keep the noise down, and he refused which lead to an argument. Then the old man filmed him with the drone for evidence to present authorities, which angered the pilot even more to the point of threats.

[@bawattsyl]

Thank you for watching and sharing that info! Appreciate it! 🙏 definitely a tragedy what happened there:(

[@alsmith9853]

Sounds like an angry insaniac. He should be jailed for life

[@samanthafairweather9186]

That's the version I heard as well. It was what the cops reckon happened, and what was said on the news. This is what I think happened as well.

[@gardensofthegods]

I know this has nothing to do with this case but another reason some people might go missing is somebody further down in the comments said it's been known that there is a dangerous pack of feral dogs there that go back maybe four or five generations .

[@karendobbs8153]

These cases are absolutely horrific, especially the elderly couple being murdered. They’re all very sad.

[@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing]

looks like the old couple mouthed off to the wrong person in a remote area, big mistake it doesn't matter if you are a former super special forces guru with 400 kills, always be nice even if you are wrong, be smart by pretending to be weak and say "fair enough sorry mate" never be rude if you're remote l work in remote places around Australia, every town and person have their secrets ALWAYS have your pleases and thankyou's ready, people may be standoffish, if you engage someone give them information and don't expect any back "I've just come thru this area, l will probably head off in the morning" it relaxes people and shows you are not hiding anything obviously carry a mobile phone everywhere with a extra power pack to take it from 0% to 100%, know your countries emergency number, Australia is 000 and if you have no reception call 112 for emergencies carry a PLB, I carry a garmin GPS/PLB, it has a SOS feature that will send rescue to your location and a two way satellite messaging service. eg. in zero phone reception areas you can text and receive messages it also has a feature that leaves a trail of your walk that others can view online, if they see you don't move for 24 hours they can start the rescue tech is available to get people home, many "expert hikers" head out without a $400 PLB and pay dearly for it A PLB won't get you home alive 100% everytime, maybe 95%....

[@littleredwitch]

@@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing You are not wrong about anything… Thank you for this info. True that in remote country towns you must never forget that you are the « foreigner « . You must get out of your way to be accepted but once you are, you are part of the family. Thanks for the technical info, it will save lives.

[@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing]

@@littleredwitch pleasure

[@gardensofthegods]

From everything I've read in the comments so far it sounds like it's not even worth going to this place I mean I'm hearing everything from they've had a pack of feral dogs that are going back for five generations that are dangerous ... to the fact that the trail often disappears because it's all grown over ... to the fact that it's so dense in some places there that you won't even be able to see your friends who could only be a few metres from you ... 1 woman talking about an opportunistic guy with a flat bed tow truck waiting off on an exit ramp there like a vulture to tow her car when he saw her husband get put in an ambulance there and she stayed with the car to follow behind except the battery was dead . Reading the comments about this place has discouraged me from ever really wanting to think about going hiking in a national forest ever again

[@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing]

@gardensofthegods it's a pretty place, isolated Victoria bush is nice, there's a few river crossings and old mines to explore doing a loop from Licola to Dargo and back is good

[@SavingSoulsMinistries]

always appreciative to see you upload bryan. thanks a ton, Praise be to God

[@matthewpocock4824]

A missing family member must be so traumatic. In an ironic way, at least a body gives closure. These families are in permanent limbo. So sad.

[@jerrymoore838]

Thank you Bryan. Praying for these families with you

[@pamelabowe5076]

It's so scary how some people go hiking alone. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Prayers to the families.

[@charlesdial7152]

I never understood that, a recipe for disaster..💯🙏

[@SavingSoulsMinistries]

i remember my friends and i were up adams creek PA lets say 5 miles or so. the group of 4 we were with laughing and hiking and we see a solo female hiker with a little ass back pack on and no protection whatsoever. she turned out to be a stoner chick so we all chilled for a bit ripping a joint then went our seperate ways.. which is just as crazy because there were quite a few times where we got stoned on trail and had to think twice about which way we were going.. solo hiking stoned with no protection pretty deep in the woods with quite a few very steep loose ground types of hills to climb.. one time we even got caught over an hour away when it got dark out. nowadays i dont mess with hiking far out especially by myself.

[@aksez2u]

Especially to have a hiking partner and split up to walk opposite directions around a mountain!?! Sounds like a fun concept, but not a good idea.

[@mackbolan5126]

I always go with my friend Glock.

[@aksez2u]

@@mackbolan5126 Probably at least 90% of missing, injured and killed hikers are done in by accidents - falls, exposure, drowning, etc. I don't think it's gonna help you there.

[@DJNAZZZZTY]

Great show! I love when you cover multiple cases together like that

[@bawattsyl]

Thank you! I appreciate the feedback! You'll like the next video then:) I should be posting in the next couple days. Thank you for watching and your comment🙏🙏

[@therealturtleton]

Im blown away to find out it snows in Australia

[@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing]

we have a dozen ski resorts in Vic and nsw, mt Buller, Mt Hotham, Mt baw baw, threadbo, snowy mountains, perisher, dinner plain

[@sarahclaireclaire7586]

🤣🤣..

[@therealturtleton]

I 100% always thought it was hot all the time and desert shrubs and small trees only and that's because of the prison island history .

[@lindak8664]

I’m Australian and it blows me away that it snows here. It’s only a comparatively small area though, so don’t get too excited! 😂

[@Autonamatonamaton]

@@therealturtleton Australia's got everything man, there's tropical rainforests, red deserts, cold alpine regions, dry grassland savannahs, old growth temperate forests, rolling hills of green pasture farmland, coal country, cattle country, the whole island is nearly the same size as the USA

[@IanP1963]

You've done your research Bry - well done 👍

[@bawattsyl]

Thank you sir! I hope all is well your way! Thanks for watching and your feedback🙏

[@keithhowell4138]

Never mentioned the fact that the disappearances were in dropbear country.

[@gardensofthegods]

​@@bawattsyllook at all the things I found out about this place from other people in the comments that make it so dangerous just to go hiking there : huge wild pigs that can eat you ,, packs of wild dogs that are dangerous and are at least four or five generations old , trail that can vanish at any time because it's not properly taken care of and gets overgrown causing people to get lost very easily , extreme temperatures we're out of the blue it can suddenly go up to 40 degrees Centigrade or plummet very quickly down into below freezing with the cold air coming up from the AntArctic and someone said yes that weather can turn on a dime , and that it's so dense there sometimes you won't even be able to see your buddies who are only a few meters away from you ... a lot of areas with no cell reception and that if you don't have a satellite phone you're screwed ... and one woman talking about some opportunistic driver of a flatbed tow truck watching from an exit off-ramp as her husband got loaded into an ambulance there and she was supposed to follow behind in the car but the battery went dead and she says the guy must have assumed she went in the ambulance and immediately saw her there with a crowbar to let him know she'll use it on him but she said she was so scared she called her family who were only 15 minutes away to help her ... some of these national forests but especially this one just sound too dangerous and not really worth it .

[@LindyQ17]

Great video Brian, very interesting cases!

[@user-dt2ht5tp1p]

Hello. Sherry here on replay. Loved ur stories. Loved the pics and most of all the Human voice. Ty

[@Stevej2013]

What a great video. Thank you for your research.

[@icu12]

Great video, I have family out that way, and spent holidays camping in the bush as child.

[@someoneout-there2165]

These videos are so intriguing and you have a great, relaxing voice. I shall fall asleep to some of your videos. Thank you.

[@ervinslens]

Fantastic work my friend, shots are outstanding!

[@MichelleH-ti7fb]

Great channel! Love ur work

[@baddm]

First time stumbling across your channel, currently bingeing all of your videos, excellent content. I just have to say, and it’s probably been said before in your comments somewhere, but you sound SO much like Zach Woods, it’s wild!

[@rebeccamchenry4032]

Great story telling by the way, thx Bryan.

[@bawattsyl]

Thank you, I appreciate the feedback!

[@charliejean1656]

Great Job presenting these cases! I am personally thankful for your human touch! Too many awful AI channels now, they creep me out, especially when talking about missing people.

[@peteblum2143]

😎 Excellent stories! And wonderfully presented 👍👍

[@MystLily]

Mt Buller is pronouncer Bull er, like the male cow 😂 I was thinking where the hell is Mt Bueller but yeah we do have a really rugged landscape up our whole east coast. When I first saw the pictures of the couple's camp site you could tell straight away that they had been attacked soon after setting up camp and that they were dead, then it came out that they were up there on a sneaky weekend away from their spouses so it was a bit of an icky situation but we have some truly creepy men that lurk around isolated places. One day I had to catch a taxi up the highway about 30minutes from Brisbane and get to my husband who had a medical emergency, we called the ambulance and they had to take him to hospital but while the ambulance was treating him I could see in my review mirror a small truck drive onto the offramp where we were but I was distracted by the ambulance than was packing hubby up to go to hospital, I was about to get in the ambulance with him but he told me to stay with the car and drive it home. So I got in the car closed the door and the ambulance left. But when I tried to start the car it wouldn't start because hubby had the radio on and it had flattened the battery due to his collapse in the car. I looked in the review mirror again and seen that same truck (which had backed itself back out of sight) come back into view and slowly head towards me. I knew straight away that something was up because he had parked out of view until the ambulance left. So I got out of the car and opened up the side panels where all the tools where in my husbands ute and picked up a crowbar, I looked up at him as he was about to stop at the back of the ute and he got a shocked look on his face and pulled around and sped off. He was waiting for us to leave the ute on the side of the road and was going to steel it, he had a tow truck with the big bed for putting cars on the back. The bastard didn't realise I stayed back with the car. I ended up calling my parents who were there in about 15 minutes because they were out shopping and close by BUT it could have been a really bad situation given the isolation of the off ramp from the highway. I would have cracked him if he'd got out of that truck for sure. Creepy blokes looking around for any oportunity

[@gardensofthegods]

God what a scary story and you're lucky that the guy was afraid when he saw the Crowbar because not all guys would be especially if they had a gun or some other weapon on them

[@zenco1611]

Bull a, not Bull er. Consider how most North Americans pronounce er, with the exception of Boston and some New England areas.

[@MystLily]

@@zenco1611 This place is in Australia not North American. I'm Australian telling how it is pronounced here in Australia

[@jrthetravelingsalesman6357]

I need documentary strictly on this so called button man

[@NoahVaile]

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[@pavlovsdogman]

There is a large pack of very big feral dogs that live in those mountains? They are 4 or 5 generations old now and are potentially deadly?

[@davidbarclay4788]

I'm 45 born in Victoria! most holidays spent in high country. Never heard of the Button man before. but most cases I can remember last case very weird. LOl u say Mt Bulla. so think of a Cow and a Bull. great work mate

[@jerichothirteen1134]

Mt Bull-er. Not Bueler. It's like Lord of the Rings country up there.

[@wanderlustinglinley1650]

Yep, correct. Also, Won-an-gatt-uh. But full credit for getting many of the others right. Australian places names are notoriously difficult to work out. Really enjoy your videos.

[@chrisward1691]

Carole and Russell were certainly in the wrong place at the wrong time. Isolation is great until you have a nutter camping next to you. I live just outside of Mansfield, so not far from Mount Buller (note bull-er not bueler) and remember all these cases as they happened. Even last week a trailbike rider was missing for a couple of days until searchers found his body. Apparently he died in a riding accident. Re Carole and Russell, I feel most sorry for their families - what a way to find out your loved one had been conducting an affair for years!

[@user-cz6gk2ci4k]

Wasn't it an open secret? I would be more upset at how terrified they must have been in. Their last moments. It would also be comforting to know they were with someone they loved when they passed. It would be such a mixed bag of emotions for their loved ones. May they rest in peace 🍃🍃

[@gardensofthegods]

​@@user-cz6gk2ci4kwell some believe that had they not been cheating they wouldn't have been there and wouldn't have run into that violent nutcase

[@Cant_prove_god]

Bryan thanks for the brilliant documentary. It has long been a mysterious place. I loved how you showed some of the spectacular scenery of the Australian Alps and Victorian high country. Some of the most beautiful high plains and rain forest on the planet is in there, especially the huge Mountain Ash trees, some of the largest trees on earth, now sadly under threat from climate change (bushfires) and persistent habitat destruction by logging contractors.

[@dduckman1423]

So the bushfires started 20 years ago when climate change started? Yeah ok.

[@sipapito]

Wow Great Job Bryan very scary and sad cases for them and their families may they find peace sooner or later.from Germany 👍🏻

[@heather-cz8yk]

Amazing land and and flora/fauna environment in Australia! Thank you Bryan for all your efforts! Bless all of these souls......

[@IanP1963]

Hut looks cozy 😁

[@bawattsyl]

They do indeed! Thank you for watching!

[@someoneout-there2165]

You have an amazing speaking voice. I love these types of videos. They're so chilling and really make you wonder. Such as, the guy with the large gun, I thought animals could have ate the guy but the gun must still be out there. Wonder if some random person found it and kept it, it would help a lot if they can find it.

[@jeffbrace9494]

Down to earth videos with great respect to families of the missing.

[@auntbarbara5576]

Thank you Bryan 👍🏽

[@36Hooters]

Nice work Bryan. I have mentioned to you in the past about an Canadian hiker Prabhdeepan Srawn who went missing over the border in the New South Wales side of the Australian alps. One big problem is that the big bushfires that are common in these area get very hot destroying most evidence. Nice area you should come over and explore it. Myles

[@joannemontgomery1416]

As always you do a great job

[@pisathongsonlone3935]

To come into someones campsite uninvited and take pictures of someone while they're sleeping is creepy and crazy, seems like this man is a person of interest and regardless how helpful he may be to the police and has never been convicted is as strange as all the missing people goes missing in his neck of the woods

[@maryjanedodo]

To be fair the photographer was being a paparazzi to a guy who lives alone & isolated by choice. Fairs fair...

[@ellenhalpern1882]

Great video, Bryan

[@philliptree1742]

😊 wonderful video thank you.

[@skylershank9309]

Excellent investigative detail.

[@rodneyf.9595]

Thanks brother great video , so sad no trace ever found may God give peace to the families. ❤

[@ColinFreeman-kh9us]

Yes, thank you for human voice. Great channel, I’m Australian never heard of the but man.

[@curtiscriscoe367]

It's drop bears, you don't mess with them

[@cmamelgna5585]

Not true mate. You most certainly CAN mess with the Drop Bears 😏ya just gotta make bloody sure ya can run faster then they can ,🤣🤣🤣

[@annehedonia156]

What's a drop bear?

[@bennuballbags2]

@@annehedonia156 A very dangerous animal

[@kieransmith1796]

​@@annehedonia156Drop Bears don't exist. It's an Aussie joke.

[@CRFLAus]

@@kieransmith1796 Funniest thing is, Yowies exist.

[@christinelee4079]

I'm from Victoria, very rugged area, but stunningly beautiful. Especially the alpine areas. Just for your info, Mt Buller is pronounced like bull, with er on the end. Not a big deal but I know you like to get the pronunciation correct. Great job on this one 😊

[@adriantaylor9535]

Thankyou for such an interesting video, i live in New South Wales and travel through this area a few times a year on my way to Melbourne, it is beautiful but very rugged country. To be honest I had never heard about these disappearances. I’ll definitely be sure too be careful on the next trip. 👍

[@Taswolf]

Thanks for giving the background on the area with pictures and maps. It helps paint the picture, so we don't have to go look everything up to see how it's laid out.

[@nanceeM1313]

🌷🕊thanks Bryan

[@mngirl5437]

May all the families and loved ones find the necessary closure in these cases😢

[@Mark-gt5jt]

I lived in that area in my late 20s. I went of trail on mount donabuang ( ive butcherd the spelling for sure) got lost for maybe 3 hours before i found a track to follow back. It gets really cold there at night. If i had have sat down there lost at night time because there is plenty of fresh water to think that it could be a good idea there is a very good chance that you could die of hypothermia and never be found.this whole area is sooooo dense and that's the logged sections . And where i got lost is also close to a town . Most of the people you mentioned in this vid went missing in the virgin bush and honestly anything could be in there. My heart goes out to all the family members that get left behind when people go missing so yeah be careful when you go to the Australian bush it really is the land that time forgot.

[@Autonamatonamaton]

you're lucky to have gotten back safe, the bush around there is no joke! spending the night out there with no fire is a dangerous prospect for sure

[@Brandanmayhew]

That is nowhere near this area😂

[@Rowdy1969]

This area is extremely remote and potentially very dangerous. Only the ultra-experienced hiker should attempt many of these hikes and I'd advise never going alone. Not necessarily because you might happen across a serious nutcase, but moreover because any minor injury could prove to be a very major problem. I have to laugh at Bryan's attempt to pronounce the names of the Australian places in this video. Wonnangatta is pronounced WOO-NAN-GATTA, Mount Buller is BULL-ER (us Aussies would pronounce it more like BULL-LAR). Cheers to all and G'day from Australia!!

[@terrykerslake2675]

You would be surprised how many people like myself hike alone.

[@gardensofthegods]

After reading all the comments and all the things about this place is definitely not worth it between the packs of feral dogs that are four or five generations old now and the huge wild pigs that can eat you and the fact that the trail vanishes because of overgrowth and it's not properly taken care of and how one guy was lost trying to find the trail again and he ran out of water and almost didn't make it out alive plus the fact that the weather there can just turn on a dime and go up it's the 40s Centigrade while plummeting very quickly down into freezing with the air coming up from Antarctica to the fact that you really do need a satellite phone because often there's no regular reception and it just sounds like a terrible place to be I don't think anybody should go there unless they go with a pretty good-sized group and even then I think people are better off avoiding that place

[@scruffyhorsegirl2024]

The lovers were murdered by a pilot over a campsite.They've been recovered and the guy that did it is now locked up.

[@ozziejim8472]

He hasn’t been convicted as yet, police are still building a case.

[@scruffyhorsegirl2024]

@@ozziejim8472 ok my bad, I thought I'd heard that it was done and dusted 👍

[@dropbear9526]

@@scruffyhorsegirl2024 The court case is in progress atm.

[@gardensofthegods]

In another thread somebody said the trial is this week ... ?

[@dropbear9526]

@@gardensofthegods It's in progress atm.

[@carrie1114]

Hope you’re feeling better ❤

[@Dave.C937]

Over the years I've camped in those locations many many times. I can say that it is not wise to venture off main trails or roads. Especially on your own. I've never met button man, but i bet he's seen me. He's very elusive. Thank you for the informative video.

[@JennyRose312]

Button Man sounds creepy. Walking into campsites at night and talking, and the possible taking of the photo of the photographer whilst sleeping?! He is fit, knows the area and does what sounds like behavior that might well be taunting. More creepy than eccentric, in my opinion.

[@Dave.C937]

@@JennyRose312 Ever since Carol & Russell went missing, let's just say we always take plenty of protection with us every time we go there for a trip away. & it always stays right next to us. Sad but true.

[@gardensofthegods]

​@@Dave.C937what if somebody like button man comes in and you don't hear him and he decides to take your protection away I mean it just doesn't sound like that place is worth it between the feral pigs that are huge and the large packs of wild dogs with as many as 15 to 20 huge dogs ... to the trail Vanishing from overgrowth I mean it just sounds really not worth it

[@lukaurshibara5837]

About Button Man, he may indeed be completely innocent and probably also is, but it needs to be pointed out that just because someone cooperates with police it does not equal innocence, as there have been many cases of criminals cooperating with authorities or sometimes even interjecting themselves in investigations with the intent to throw off suspicion, reasoning that "they will never suspect someone so helpful of being guilty". Just saying.^^

[@narohato1749]

As a victorian, myself, The Button man is a very enigmatic figure, He can be quite confronting to encounter but he's harmless. Dozens, if not hundreds of hikers have bumped into him and he's never given anyone any problems Victoria Police has done extensive background checks on him , they know who he is and why he is living out there and they are content that he's not responsible for any missing persons.

[@damo.77]

Button man is a really nice guy, have come across him up there.

[@DaisyDay.-pm2cf]

Love the surprise photograph story. Too funny.

[@Pushing_Pixels]

I'm Australian and I don't care if you mispronounce our place names. Pedantry bothers me more, especially when the pedant doesn't bother to check how many other pedants have beat him to it.

[@fortunateson7852]

Amen brother

[@SootyS-wg4lm]

👏 nodding

[@johnM-Jr]

dull and overly exact presentation of knowledge or learning.

[@Taswolf]

That's how annoying it is when everyone on KZbin does stories about my area when they aren't even from the US.

[@Taswolf]

You must not like autistic people, because I have that problem. I was ignored my whole childhood, too, so I over explain everything and give full details. I feel like I have to get it all out fast but explain well for the person to understand, because I'd have to repeat myself so many times, growing up, just to be heard. My parents still don't listen for sh!t. I'm also an artist. There are a lot of us out there. If everyone was the same, the world would be a very dull and boring place.

[@FeedScrn]

This is what I'm thinking will help to prevent Missing 411 people / cases in the USA (other countries need to adopt this to suit them): - Have each person above an early age mandated to rent (or have one of their own) a GPS locating device when they enter a park. Not only the kind that works when they press a button, but also where the National Park Service can find it using a "where is" signal. Ideally it also should be waterproof and have a camera built-in.... where using the camera will trigger the device on. - The device should be required to have, with a $100 - $200 deposit... money returned upon exit... and should be trackable everywhere. - This should reduce Missing person cases in our parks to almost 0... thereby virtually eliminating the need for extended searches. - It may be expensive... but how much is a Search and Rescue attempt with 20 or more individuals, helicopters, and drones? That can't be cheap. The devices in this way will pay for themselves.

[@outbackgearforu]

Nah forget all that,let nature take its course,if you get lost or go when you shouldn’t ,or don’t prepare then ,no you don’t deserve to be rescued

[@lisaboo50]

I had thought of this, however would be traceable by nefarious people as well. Too many of those out there these days.

[@FeedScrn]

@@lisaboo50 - That's like saying that we shouldn't have policemen... because they may be corrupt.

[@joanymclean3184]

Sounds like great plan to me GPS. just don't hike alone period an arm your selves where ever you go

[@sirridesalot6652]

@@joanymclean3184 Not every country allows a person to carry a firearm.

[@IanP1963]

I remember they had questioned Greg Lynn over thsy couples disappearance, but it went very quiet...

[@littleredwitch]

I don’t think he’s gone to trial yet. .? There is more than meets the eye there.

[@felicitybywater8012]

He's on trial now, in June 2024. Fumble finger edit.

[@FaithAndRepentance]

Everything in the Bush is trying to take your life except The Button Man😅

[@ConfusedBasket-kt2uf]

I'm from the Yarra Valley and I'm pretty familiar with the bush from the valley all the way to Buller, this is unforgiving bushland no matter what people say, it'll make you disappear quicker than David Copperfield

[@gardensofthegods]

Yes and after reading all the comments about all the different things that make it so dangerous I think people would be crazy to go hiking there or if they feel they must they should definitely bring a satellite phone and be with a large group

[@terrilee68]

Bless you

[@JaneBlack-ui4eh]

Thanks, very well narrated and presented. All older people taken. Hmm.

[@JamesMichael333]

Please update us on the outcome of the Gregory Lynn case and any new information when it happens.

[@deldridg]

Great vid, but minor correction. Your assertion that there is not much skiing available in Australia is not quite true. Perhaps a little known fact is that the Australian Alps get more snow annually than Switzerland. We actually do have a lot of skiing opportunities in this country. Cheers - Dave

[@MelodyMLucianoNorris-qe8lc]

The fact that he had the truck painted and the trailer sold is suspicious as heck!! Also, why was he so angry about the drone to begin with? He was angry enough to kill over it so maybe they caught him doing something bad on said drone? You would think the police could trace who bought the trailer and then check it out. Bullet holes in the walls? Blood inside or out? Did he use it to transport the bodies away from the campsite? There has to be something hiding in plain sight with that trailer!! The drone too could have provided some amazing info I bet. If I bought a trailer from a guy and then saw that guy on the news, wanted for possibly murdering people you bet your butt I would contact the police to have the trailer checked out just in case.

[@MelindaMcAllister884]

Bless all their souls. I find missing person reports very intriguing. I always think could more have been done to find the individuals?

[@angeloterrero]

Another great video Bryan. 👍

[@gentlefieldtheorynerd853]

bones turn brown over time, they end up looking like twigs, super hard to find

[@TheQueensWish]

Very frightening.

[@ike8236]

Good work mate! I camp this exact area many many times, sometimes alone and it's not too bad, so easy to get in trouble though and if you're not prepared (PLB) it's probably the end sadly. All around there many more have gone missing. I've heard many creepy stories of The Button Man but gladly he hasn't come into my camp(I hope) especially when I've been alone, i don't sleep in a tent so it has creeped me out thinking of it out there though 😂. Beautiful area and so vast and remote.

[@gardensofthegods]

Ike you have to be crazy to go camping there alone ... after I have read all these comments , stories about huge feral pigs that will eat you or being surrounded by a pack of 15 to 20 massive wild dogs or how the temperature there can turn on a dime and plummet down to freezing very quickly ... or how the trail can vanished because of overgrowth . I hope you at least have a satellite phone with you and some good projectile weapons

[@ike8236]

@gardensofthegods No sat phone just a PLB, yeah experienced some pretty cold nights up there and once an unexpected storm that was pretty crazy. Seen one large pack of feral dogs close to there but never any boar, heard something one night come down a hill through a river and back up another steep hill crashing through the trees faster than anything I can think moves like that, we put it down to a boar which would have to be seriously massive but honestly I don't know what the hell it was. I only hunt with a bow so I hope nothing ever comes for me and when I'm prospecting I'll only have a knife with me. She'll be right!

[@gardensofthegods]

@@ike8236 well it still sounds pretty dangerous from what you've told me so far . Not sure what a PLB is ; I guess I'll look it up later when I'm not so tired . So when you say a storm out of nowhere you're talking about like with rain and thunder and lightning not a snowstorm ... but that does sound like something nobody would really want to be out in ... ? Like did it have high winds and sideways rain ? Well that thing coming down the hill and then across the water and then going up another hill in a powerful way sounds a lot like the description people have given of either Bigfoot ( Yowie ) or even certain kinds of Dog Men . I'm surprised that a lot of people still don't know the stories of dog man and I don't think people are making them up .

[@gardensofthegods]

@@ike8236 I see my other comment to you vanished when I said I wonder if you've ever listened to the Dogman Encounters Radio channel here on the tube . A lot of people telling their stories about these creatures and sometimes they are very huge and always powerful . You might want to look at the category of best or most popular stories . When you hear these people you can tell they're not lying and that they're not actors

[@markallen5764]

Frightening 😢😢 Becky 🇬🇧 🇬🇧

[@kym393]

It's said that some years The Australian Alps, or Snowy Mountains as they are also known, receive more snow than Switzerland.

[@peachsncream5808]

🤣😂🤣😂 really !! IT IS SAID 🤣😂. As an Australian who has spent time in Switzerland 🤣😂🤣😂 , that is Fukn funny .

[@kym393]

@@peachsncream5808 Quoting my first two words and fucking it up. That's fucking funny.

[@kym393]

Google it.

[@Yosetime]

I remember following the case about the couple who were murdered. I believe they caught the guy because his vehicle had been caught on a remote traffic camera at the entrance/exit of a Park area. It was just a single photo. But he was already known to police and they put two and two together pretty quick and watched him like a hawk, like you said. I do believe it was the suspect who led them to the bodies, which were far away from the crime scene in an odd place. Anyway, they said that had they not had that one photo from the automatic traffic camera they would probably never had caught him or found the bodies. It was a mysterious and weird case.

[@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing]

he kept the car, changed its colour and stayed in vic🤦 he was a commercial pilot so not a dimwit, should've sold the car (to himself), burnt it, moved overseas, flown and moved on

[@user-zu8co4dp4d]

​@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing should have? Is that what you would of done being in his position?

[@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing]

@@user-zu8co4dp4d I'm assuming the first thing someone would do after a double murder is run, this dude painted his car

[@bertoid]

"they said that had they not had that" - had to reread that a few times!

[@brettrobson5739]

This is nothing unusual for Australia. I could easily find five or six clusters like this in just Victoria. The bush is extremely harsh on corpses. If they don't find you in a couple of days they never do. The desert is worse. If you get lost in the Gibson or the Simpson, no one is ever finding you.

[@goodiesgumdrops1164]

Your voice and storytelling are so calming ❤

[@patiencemccarthy6723]

I’ve stayed in the valley many times. It’s so beautiful and amazing in the summer. We were lucky enough to stay in the hut once. I remember exploring the cemetery at night as a kid. my brother met the button man once and he said it was one of the creepiest experiences.

[@gardensofthegods]

What can you please tell us what your brother told you about him