I agree with you. That being said, if you are old like me, insurance is cheap. I pay $800 per year for my 2024 M2. Your insurance will drop when you hit around age 26 or so. As for the climate control, I just set the temperature and leave it in Auto mode. In a year now, I’ve never changed the modes. Yes, the ride is stiff even in Comfort mode but it is an M car. I’ve owned seven M cars over the last 25 years and they are all stiff. Not much can you do about it. Again as being old, I prefer the exhaust quiet. I hate the buzziness of the exhaust. I bought a bunch of dynamat and lined the trunk floor (not stuck down of course), and also lined the interior floor under the mats to quiet down the road noise. My ears have had enough of blasting the radio to hear the tunes, so it has quieted down the road noise considerably. Brake dust is terrible but so was my 2019 Golf R. The only way to get rid of brake dust is by using racing pads or getting carbon ceramic brakes, which are not offered on the M2. If I back my M2 out of garage, brake dust appears…my biggest hate. As for the seats…I’m not a fan of leather seats. They burn your legs in summertime and freeze your butt in the wintertime. I prefer, again because I’m old, real sheepskins for two reasons: warm in the winter, cool in the summer and after five years if I sell the car, the leather seats show absolutely no wear, no wrinkles. It’s amazing how much nice leather seats help with resale value. I’d much rather have cloth seats though. Gas mileage is bad but with a light foot, at 55 mph on secondary roads, I’ve hit a high of 31 mpg. Around town, it’s low. I’m more unhappy that I can’t run 93 octane as the highest in Oregon is 92. I’m currently trying to mix 92 octane with a bit of 110 octane. We have one station that sells 97 octane and 110 octane. Price is very high: $9.20 for 97 and $9.40 for 110. Twenty cents difference, I’ll get 110. I want to run a few tanks of a 95 octane mixture and test the car and then go back to 92 octane and see if there is any difference in the quarter mile. Overall, I love the M2. I found the M3/M4 too big. The G87 M2 reminds me of my E46 M3 size. Great video as always…thanks.
@speeddemonRS3Ай бұрын
@jimdrivas4949 I own an M240i for my winter and rainy day car, and honestly, the stiff suspension is a real bummer in all M cars! Adaptive suspension makes a small difference, but nothing like my RS3 that transforms the ride into an A3 is amazing! I won't buy another bimmer until I test drive one, and there is a significant improvement over bumps.
@closg9309Ай бұрын
Age and location matter for insurance. I live in Miami and it’s insane due to the fraud down here. I pay 1900 every 6 months for a 2022 GTI and TAOS. I’m 43 , 0 accidents, 830 credit score. It’s crazy down here.
@anjdog2003Ай бұрын
It's not BMW's fault that you're young and your insurance is high. It's not BMW's fault that the tires are expensive to you. It's not BMW's fault that the services are expensive. Most people that can afford a BMW M2 are usually twice your age and they don't pay the high insurance. They can afford the maintenance, gas, and tires. So enjoy your car, be happy that at your age you can afford a car like this which 90% of people your age can't . smh
@JVette01Ай бұрын
You missed the point of this video… I said several times these are THINGS YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF and that NONE OF THESE ARE DEAL BREAKERS and that I LOVE THE CAR.. people always get so up in arms about videos like this..
@anjdog2003Ай бұрын
@@JVette01 Like iu said people that can afford the car are very aware. They've buying cars longer than you've been alive. The people that need to be aware can't afford a 70k car. You missed the point.
@JVette01Ай бұрын
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@amiller212127 күн бұрын
You should relax. There's nothing wrong him making a video talking about the things you should know. You sound very bitter in your posts.
@anjdog200314 күн бұрын
@@amiller2121 You sound like a young kid that can't afford anything more than a Honda Civic
@fzr1000981Ай бұрын
My 2025 is best sports car I've ever owned (which is about 10 sports cars). Absolutely love it
@JVette01Ай бұрын
You've only had it for like 5 days right? haha
@fzr1000981Ай бұрын
@JVette01 true still the honeymoon phase but doubt my opinion changes...super fast and composed
@fzr1000981Ай бұрын
@@JVette01 2025 has been confirmed 490 rwhp on dyno (AReeve Performance)
@S58b58Ай бұрын
I have a 2025 and love it 2k miles so far.
@Somchai00723 күн бұрын
@fzr1000981 I have a 2017 Porsche cayman s manual as my daily. I absolutely love it, but am considering trading it in for the new M2. 2 extra seats, looks tough, I'd maybe go for auto because it's my daily. Do have an opinion on this?
@curtdragonАй бұрын
I feel like 90% is standard. You don't buy a sports car for gas milage and big fuel tank. That's what the Tesla is for right? Or comfort or almost everything else you said. It's the lowest model M so they're not going to put the top quality stuff in it. Tires and insurance? Don't do slides or burnouts lol. Insurance will get better but any sportscar will be the price. I agree with the brakes but a set of aftermarket is cheap and will fix that. As for the rasp. Also agreed but good thing there are tons of examples on the internet to figure out what setup you want to go. Definitely carted downpipes and possibly resonated midpipe will help. Also oil change price. Do it yourself for 1/4 of the price. Or an indy shop. You live in an expensive area so the dealership can charge more
@JVette01Ай бұрын
Fair enough, but again, these are some of the downsides of owning a car like this. Just something people should be aware of before buying. Again, not a problem for me as I still bought it and love it.
@curtdragonАй бұрын
@@speeddemonRS3not at all. But you buy a sports car and expect it to be like a touring sedan you’re going to be disappointed. Everything he mentions is a characteristic of a sports car. Can you have better has mileage and comfier seats? Sure. But this ain’t it lol. Not at $70k. But that’s his opinion and mine. That’s the beauty of life.
@DjNikGnashersАй бұрын
Honest review based on personal experience, good video. I actually liked the styling of these when they were released, despite the criticism, and they have grown on me even more now. I can't quite afford one at the moment, but I do see myself in one, maybe in 3 or 4 years time. I own an OG M2, and I absolutely love it. I think it is a prettier car, and still feels quite raw, and oldskool, for a modern car, and I really like that.
@jimdrivas4949Ай бұрын
Speaking of gas mileage…at Thunderhill Raceway in Willows, CA I averaged 4 mpg on the track running straight 100 octane gas. It was so much fun though!
@speeddemonRS3Ай бұрын
@@jimdrivas4949 4 mpg lmfao
@zshawnraoof5491Ай бұрын
Great content and congrats on owning an M2 at 23. I'm 26 and have a G80 M3 hopefully being delivered in the next 5-7 weeks. A couple of the things you "hate" about the car are cost related, and I wouldn't really fault the car for that. Anyone buying an M2 should already have considered these things before purchasing, but I'm sure your video will help them if they haven't. I do have some advice for you on the parts though. 1. Oil changes at $450 is robbery. Buy the oil yourself online for $85 and take it to a nice enthusiast german car shop. They'll do your oil change for $100/$150. You also should be changing the oil every 5k-7.5k miles, not 10k as BMW will recommend. Do a BMW oil change every 10k miles for free in your first 3 years/30k, but please make sure you supplement out of pocket every 5k miles. 2. Brake Pads: iSweep 1500's will cost you $800 for all 4. They are better than the OEM brake pads and dust WAY less. In no world should you be paying $1800 for brakes on your g87. 3. Sound: Pair the SST Valve Controller ($250) with a single resonated midpipe from MAD (Master of Art and Design) ($800), and you will have an amazing sounding car without any rasp or drone. Sounds like the car should have out of the factory. 4. OIL COOLER: For some reason BMW did not protect the oil cooler and it is on the bottom of the car by the front lip. There are tons of guys who have had this completely destroyed by road debris. You can get a protector from MAD right now for $200. Consider this if you drive on highways or dicey roads at all. Cheers
@JVette01Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@lancairw8676 күн бұрын
New subscriber and found you through your honest Golf R reviews in which I bought ( im 50) a 24 Golf R in manual and love it. Love BMWs and their smooth/ powerful motors and build quality. M2 is a track weapon and impressive! But my next car I think will be the BMW M240i AWD. Honestly looks a little better than M2, plenty of power, M like options, better daily comfort and price. Keep opus the great content and honesty. I have bought many of cars but my younger self would have liked to see the actual OTD price, tax, insurance and finance in which you show 👍🏼👍🏼
@JVette016 күн бұрын
I appreciate your kind words. Glad you enjoyed the Golf R videos. I agree that the M240i is a great car.
@kenvan65Ай бұрын
Please check out any type of front splitter, the more aggressive style the better. It is a minor mod, that I personally think is a must for all g87, don’t need to be carbon fiber can just be normal fiber glass that can be fairly cheap around $250-$400. I did it on mine, and you will be surprise how much it pulls the looks of the car together.
@subhromandalАй бұрын
Did you cover up the open radiator with a mesh grill ,also any idea if it gets hot by a stone and it breaks ,does bmw cover it under warranty..if you can let me know ow would be helpful as I just got a 2025 m2 😄
@JVette01Ай бұрын
I haven't done anything with that yet. I don't daily the car and I'm very careful while driving it so it hasn't been an issue.. yet haha
@soldier09r3 күн бұрын
Great car, brother! Some of this stuff is a given like the insurance and gas mileage because of the type of vehicle! The tires are a pain because I feel you on that having owned multiple sports cars lol dig your video and good points for a NEWER owner for sure. For seasoned owners these are a given. You plan on doing any modifications though? I think you should!!!
@JVette013 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. Maybe in the future I’ll consider mods
@soldier09r3 күн бұрын
@ I don’t blame you for not wanting to like you stated in your video. The cost is insane just anything BMW. I owned one when I was stationed in Germany 🇩🇪. I know them a little lol but I want one again seeing that it’s available in manual transmission too!!
@kerickjackson20 күн бұрын
The last thing you worry about in a sports car is gas mileage. If you want good gas mileage, get a Prius for backup.
@JVette0120 күн бұрын
I have a tesla for backup. even better haha
@kerickjackson20 күн бұрын
hahaha except for that cyber truck
@kerickjackson20 күн бұрын
except for when you have to plug it
@JVette0120 күн бұрын
Not an issue at all. You charge at home or at work in my case. It’s always full for me.
@kerickjackson20 күн бұрын
@@JVette01 i see why u got the beemer... because driving is fun
@1ofmany97519 күн бұрын
I heard that people are reporting the intake manifold which is made of plastic separates from the metal cooler it’s connected to. So people are taking those off and replacing it with an all metal one so it won’t leak and separate
@jsh139Ай бұрын
How about the reflection of that giant center speaker? Not sure if the M2 suffers, but in my M4 all I can see is the weird design of the dashboard speaker on the inside of the windshield 🤣
@JVette01Ай бұрын
Haven’t really paid attention to that
@jsh139Ай бұрын
@ you’ll probably notice it now that I pointed it out! 😜
@speeddemonRS3Ай бұрын
😂
@EastWood2004Ай бұрын
The most horrible thing with g87 is no protection for the radiators. Have you checked the oil cooler radiator at floor? The radiator is fragile so it can be broken from a very minor hit from a debris. The front is just open for being beaten by any rock or stone from front cars.
@JVette01Ай бұрын
good point
@kerickjackson20 күн бұрын
Have y'all driven it with a manual?
@JVette0120 күн бұрын
I haven't, but I know someone with a manual one that I may film a video with soon.
@eek8605Ай бұрын
Small fuel tank as a daily did annoy me at first, but there’s a gas station on my way to work so it’s not the worst. I avoided the m3 and m4 because in my country they are only available in competition, and to have fun in the m3 comp at least I find you have to be going way over the fkn speed limit to have fun on public roads, being automatic doesn’t help, as you remove engagement. Where as the M2 because its small and is the only m car that can be a manual in my country, it was a no brainer, its heavy but feels nimble lol.
@ryancarter713825 күн бұрын
I’m thinking of getting the new lci m2 or the lci 2 M340i and I agree with you on the sound of a tuned s58 motor. The tone of the b58 is so much better. I feel like the sound of those motors need to be switched around 😅
@JVette0125 күн бұрын
I know! haha. I'd go M2 but the M340 will be a better daily.
@davidog4Ай бұрын
I don't daily my car so you may not have this issue but the noise from the giant brakes!! They squeal like crazy when they are cold. You have to break aggressively and heat them up for it to go away. I still love it, and it stops on a dime!!
@JVette01Ай бұрын
This is true. I didn’t get a chance to mention this
@Mk5RobАй бұрын
How much do downpipes cost with a tune? Kooks headers for a Mustang are over 2k alone tune is like 750, maybe even more now....
@Silby13Ай бұрын
My 6 things I hate about my G87: 1. It’s not a CS 2. It’s not Signal Green 3. The wheel gap could house a family of raccoons 4. It’s too quiet 5. It has back seats 6. Most infuriatingly, it has more power than BMW says it does 😡
@JVette01Ай бұрын
😂
@harrisj227829 күн бұрын
I have never paid more than $230 maybe try taking it to an independent bmw shop for oil service I think 450 for just oil and filter seems a little high.
@JVette0129 күн бұрын
Definitely will be looking into that after my free oil changes expire
@speeddemonRS3Ай бұрын
Honestly, you were a lot more transparent about the negatives than i ever expected, and it's greatly appreciated!!
@Max-TurismoАй бұрын
Hey JVette, is the Golf R in its firmest suspension setting close to what the M2 is in its softest setting? I currently daily a Golf R and the M2 is a car I am considering upgrading to as my new daily. Thanks for the content 👍
@JVette01Ай бұрын
Yeah, I'd say that's a good comparison.
@peptors6686Ай бұрын
I have a 2023 Golf R and my son has a 2023 M2. I would agree with your comment.
@speeddemonRS3Ай бұрын
@@peptors6686 Unbelievable! That's kind of nuts imo!
@bryanvogel9873Ай бұрын
Love your videos! I got to disagree with the exspensive to mod point. These cars are known for how cheap it is to make power and there are plenty of cheap cosmetic parts. For example, my M2 only has a JB4 and flex fuel kit ($1000 total) and dropped my 60-130 from 10.3 to 7.02. Also got a lowering kit AST ($800) and full aero kit from maxton for ($800 total). Very nice looks and hp per dollar. If you wanted to skip the piggy back route and go custom tune you can go 'FBO' for around $3000 and make 700+ whp and have a 5.x 60-130 easily.
@G82WattsАй бұрын
@@bryanvogel9873 exaclty. It's literally known as the easiest platform and least expensive to make an easy 200+hp..
@JVette01Ай бұрын
I wasn't referring to tuning. There's no doubt making power in this car is very inexpensive relative to other vehicles. I am talking about mods in general I noticed are a lot more expensive than my Mustang like the exhaust, intakes, etc.
@georgewhite5166Ай бұрын
@bryanvogel9873 What wheels and tire setup are u using to put down all that power?
@bryanvogel9873Ай бұрын
@@georgewhite5166 nitto nt555 R2 305/40/18 the wheels are superspeed rf05rr
@youhewettАй бұрын
i get into the climate menu easy by the central idrive control, just press up and configure the accesss 😃, add favorite
@surfbumb123Ай бұрын
$300 per month insurance 😂, what's your monthly car payment if you have one?
@JVette01Ай бұрын
Yeah I know! Ugh. Payment was 1300 but paying it off next month. I just wanted to keep the loan for 13 payments. kzbin.info/www/bejne/maaQnXx5Zb9smZo
@newyorkerikАй бұрын
what a beauty
@speeddemonRS3Ай бұрын
Rear bumper?
@bigdna556128 күн бұрын
Very informative video
@ativandan28 күн бұрын
Hes complaining about using premium gas in an m2. Ill never watch another video of his again. lmao
@JVette0128 күн бұрын
Never complained about premium gas.. just mentioned that’s part of the higher cost of ownership..
@Mr.Lambert777Ай бұрын
Yo, nice content, bro you’re doing really good for a 23-year-old. I am so proud of that.. when I was your age as I was doing pretty great ,and still am…It’s definitely a blessing. I’m thinking about leasing this M2. I currently have a X3 M. But I am not that much older than you.
@JVette01Ай бұрын
I appreciate it
@speeddemonRS3Ай бұрын
I won't tell you what i pay for insurance on my bimmer and RS3. You'll shit yourself man!!😂
@JVette01Ай бұрын
What is it? 😂
@speeddemonRS3Ай бұрын
@JVette01 1500 dollars for the M240i xdrive and RS3 full coverage for the year, of course.😄
@JVette01Ай бұрын
Yeah, so many factors go into it, but insurance sucks here in vegas.
@speeddemonRS3Ай бұрын
@JVette01 300 a month is mind-boggling for just the M2! Expensive car to keep on the road indeed! At least it's fun af lol
@G82WattsАй бұрын
Bruh u can get a 600$ jb4 and get 200hp off that alone. S58 is very easy to tune. 😂 1500 for a flash tune and ur making 800hp. Idk how that's a negative.
@JVette01Ай бұрын
Never said it was?
@G82WattsАй бұрын
@JVette01 it's not expensive when considering how much HP u gain for such little mods. Plus how reliable it is compared to other cars after being tuned is a massive W
@curtdragonАй бұрын
@@JVette01i mean you did
@JVette01Ай бұрын
When? I mentioned aftermarket parts are expensive.. but never referred to a tune.
@curtdragonАй бұрын
@@JVette01that’s a mod
@victorjaye16Ай бұрын
Wow! 70k car at 23. Where did I screw up?! Keep it up. At my age, you'll be in a Lambo or better a Nevera.
@JVette01Ай бұрын
Nah I’m not really a fan of super cars tbh. It took a lot for me to buy a 70k car lol
@scottwinton-py9nd16 күн бұрын
All this guy is , is complaining rich kid, how many 23 yearoldscan afforda 70k car
@JVette0116 күн бұрын
Ones that work hard to put themself in a position to?
@victoryensured7137Ай бұрын
Hah i love when you Americans complain about the price, here in the EU this car is 88k. Also Jesus 23 and a M car?! xD I'm 38 and it's my first new BMW, you had like 5 new cars? Jesus the culture shock.
@JVette01Ай бұрын
I’m speaking in terms of USD
@victoryensured7137Ай бұрын
@@JVette01 Yeah me too
@mr_jdesАй бұрын
He has a Tesla = complains about gas mileage 😅🤦🏻♂️
@JVette01Ай бұрын
Smh
@mr_jdesАй бұрын
@ likewise lol
@JVette01Ай бұрын
This guy should just stop making KZbin videos. How dare he talk about gas mileage while owning a Tesla..
@acroracing23 күн бұрын
Yea.. all of that sounds like you should have bought the new Accord.
@JVette0123 күн бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion!
@karolmaciejewski340Ай бұрын
G87 has much much better ride quality then F87 , suspension is much more refined then before.
@JVette01Ай бұрын
Yes it’s much better. Still firm though
@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0nАй бұрын
this facelift and the big grill bmw look is getting worse looking as time goes on...
@JVette01Ай бұрын
lol k
@speeddemonRS3Ай бұрын
Strange direction BMW has gone in the last few years imo!!
@kpatt2006Ай бұрын
You're paying what for an oil change!?!?!? Sheeeesh. I buy my oil from FCP Euro for $80 and let my mechanic change it for $20 labor. My BMW is an old 2008 though lol.
@speeddemonRS3Ай бұрын
@kpatt2006 20 for labor lmao! The guy practically works for free!!
@waynemiller1609Ай бұрын
The climate control on screen is a deal breaker for me!!!…please go back to knobs and buttons.You just talked me out of ordering the M2!!!
@JVette01Ай бұрын
😂 it’s not even that big of a deal, just a minor inconvenience. The car is still better than anything in its price range imo
@fzr1000981Ай бұрын
Haha....if that talked you out if it you're either incredibly petty or too broke. It's a nothing issue, climate control is fine Love my 2025, best car I've ever owned.
@MarkeemSmithАй бұрын
@@fzr1000981hes just crazy 😅
@wew5499Ай бұрын
That is unfortunate. 😂😂 Probably kidding 😏
@karolmaciejewski340Ай бұрын
Tbh I was so happy they left idrive knob to navigate infotament but to my surprise I use only touch screen , it's very convenient