600mm/s - Heated Chamber - CoreXY - QIDI Q1 Pro

[@johnsanford3596]

My priorities: Quality of print, reliability of machine, ease of use, flexibility of materials used, and at the very bottom, speed.

[@LoyalMoses]

I think many people feel the same way.

[@parokyaniganja17]

which machine comes close to this criteria? Im still looking for the right printer.

[@Irek_Poland]

@@parokyaniganja17 Bambu Lab.

[@paytonrickle6785]

@@LoyalMoses and ease of repair/ inexpensive repairs

[@NWGR]

Thanks for the review Loyal! I'm willing to give up some speed for better quality, but I absolutely NEVER want to go back to ender 3 speeds again.

[@LoyalMoses]

You are very welcome! Thank you for watching!

[@Theprofessor1212]

Thank you for pronouncing Qidi correctly.

[@LoyalMoses]

You are so welcome! 💜

[@richardrathburn3467]

I 100% agree that quality and consistency is most important. Ease of use as well. The less I have to do to get a print going that comes out great with minimal effort, the better the experience for me at least. Not everyone is an engineer and less is more for a majority of the hobby base I would have to think 🤷🤷🤷

[@LoyalMoses]

I am with you there! This is the direction I really want to see 3D printings going!

[@richc9890]

Agree. Doesn't matter how fast it prints if they come out crappy. I don't cut the filament to remove. I heat it up to temp, then pull it out easy and it seems to work fine that way. Just be sure to pull it out before it tries to extrude the "cut" off piece it expects or it will pull the filament back in.

[@LoyalMoses]

Absolutely!

[@Turrin72]

Everyone likes to make fun of Qidi tech printers for being large and say it's due to their poor packaging, but no one talks about how the heated chamber will require additional heating elements and heat shielding which is likely why they're so much larger, not poor design. Also it gives them a consistent brand identity, most CoreXY machines look the same, but when you see a Qidi tech, you know!

[@LoyalMoses]

I like the QIDI aesthetic!

[@smokehead5318]

That additional heating element is small fun with small heater, that’s it. Worth max 15$

[@Jermz1979]

​@@smokehead5318yet they aren't standard yet. Kinda surprising

[@shuflie]

Th coupler is probably for the filament dry box that came by default with their X3 printers (Smart, Plus and Max), allows nylon/nylon CF to be printed from the drybox with a fully enclosed path to the nozzle. It won't mount directly to the Q1 pro, but can be used sitting beside it.

[@LoyalMoses]

Could be.

[@Turrin72]

Totally agree with quality being more important than speed. Whether my machine can bang out a print in 5 hours or 8 hours doesn't matter to me, I'm going to let it run while I'm at work or asleep anyways.

[@LoyalMoses]

A lot of people feel the same way!

[@WARPAINTandUnicorns]

Yeah, the Ludicrous speed with Hyper PLA although interesting might be a little too fast for quality visually for prints. But the reason I'm interested in faster speed is when using 0.2 nozzle for detailed prints. Being able to print more detail was smaller layer lines is a nice upgrade (but not on Ludicrous mode.😅)

[@LoyalMoses]

Absolutely!

[@chemicalcorrosion]

Holy cow! Am I the only one who hasn’t received one of these for review? Every other “suggestion” from YT is a review of this this machine.

[@LoyalMoses]

Haha!

[@KRUSZON...]

Hello, which one is better, p1s or QIDI Q1 Pro?

[@LoyalMoses]

P1S produces better results and has the potential for AMS.

[@nilsennl]

I’m seriously considering this machine as my first venture into core XY. Yours is the 3rd review I’ve seen now and overall I’m impressed (although definitely some little niggles with it). Unfortunately it’s not shipping in the UK at the moment, but I guess that means I’ll get to see some community opinions before deciding whether to order.

[@eriklundqvist4221]

Same here. I'm hoping there will be something new from Bambu Lab by mid April when Qidi starts shipping to the UK :)

[@LoyalMoses]

It’s a seriously nice machine!

[@eriklundqvist4221]

@@LoyalMoses I like it. Has a lot of great features for the price but seems to have some unfortunate quirks. But for heated chamber it’s this one or the BL X1E 😊

[@TheGeordietheWitchandtheWench]

I'll stick with my Delta for now ;-) Thanks for the video!!!

[@LoyalMoses]

I need a good Delta here!

[@Cosigne]

I really hope that if Qidi does make it compatible with the rest of the lineup. I have the x-plus 3, and would definitely buy a standalone unit.

[@LoyalMoses]

That would be cool!

[@DonnyDonnMendoza]

ooft nice first review LM! I've been going great with the BambuLab A1 but I'm now looking at doing some more engineering-style filaments like PC, PET-CF, ASA etc!

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you!

[@TinTalon]

Very cool printer. A lot for the money it looks like.

[@LoyalMoses]

Yes!

[@craftyrat]

looks solid

[@richc9890]

Also on AMS. I asked their tech support prior to purchasing my X Max 3 about the AMS and this is the reponse I received from them.... "Dear Customer: Hello, I heard that our engineers are currently developing it, but I am not very clear about the specific situation. terribly sorry." (Name of employee withheld to prevent any backlash). So I think it's coming, hopefully it can be retrofitted on the previous machines (like my new X Max 3). With Bambu making the AMS pretty standard, I think most of the printer manufacturers are probably working on something similar to compete.

[@LoyalMoses]

That’s awesome! Many emails like that are on Reddit too. It’s coming for sure! Thank you for sharing!

[@JayEm16]

Great video as always LM. Always make sure comment and like your vids lol but i do think AMS for this machine is coming. That spool holder though....sheesh lol

[@LoyalMoses]

Thanks!

[@kschaffer6978]

Grabbed this last night after chatting . Very interested to see what it can do. Thanks for your input.

[@LoyalMoses]

Awesome!

[@KloMeister123]

On the circuit board there is already a place to add a ethernet port. If you have soldering skills, you can add it yourself. On the back under the sticker, you will find a hole for a potential ethernet port too. So maybe, they plan to add this later? Dont know, but it is easy to add this yourself

[@LoyalMoses]

Maybe!

[@Collateralcoffee]

They changed a lot of things. It has Ethernet now. The filament entry point is changed. It does have alignment tabs now. And it does take at least 15 minutes to the first print, because you have to set it up.

[@LoyalMoses]

Do you have one?

[@mmmmbeeeeer]

I'm printing functional products for sale - in this context, I want 'fit-for-purpose' quality, but once it's over that bar, speed is my priority: faster printer = less printing time per unit. This printer might not be the best quality for a print farm, but for me printing product in ASA with only a couple of printers, this is ideal to help me bootstrap my business. If I can print ASA without brims and minimal warping it will save me tons of time in post-processing as well.

[@LoyalMoses]

Awesome.

[@spencerhachem5491]

A little late but I don't think that quick connect is for an ams system. They make a filament dryer and I'm pretty sure it's for a reverse bowden tube for that

[@LoyalMoses]

So much is happening! Sit back and enjoy the ride. I promise you EVERY company will have AMS.

[@Munich-HawaiianGlow-iw9xn]

Great video! Yes, I agree quality over speed. One little thing here. It is now common, that measurements in the 3D world are by Centimeters and Kilos not Inches. Otherwise, please make more of these good videos.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thanks! Also, all 350 million of us here in the US still use inches and mm when necessary. 😉

[@shanechristiansen38]

Definitely a killer machine

[@LoyalMoses]

😃

[@steveu235]

Nice review Thank you

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you! 💜

[@AK.Navy.Veteran]

I have all of my Qidi printers on a VLAN. I’ll probably still add a BTT SFS Filament Sensor v2. Have one on my Max3 and Smart3. Would have been nice if they had Ethernet, although you can solder one on the Motherboard.

[@LoyalMoses]

Cool.

[@Happy3dprinting]

There’s no auto filament cutter as with bambu lab, if the ams has cutter built in that’s a lot of filament to purge. So I don’t think unless they give an updated print head

[@LoyalMoses]

We were chatting about that earlier, it would have to be an upgrade on the Toolhead to work the best.

[@Happy3dprinting]

@@LoyalMosesfor the price point, if they made multi material possible this would really turn up the heat on other printer manufacturers. I hope they do even if it’s just for support material.

[@S.A.S.H.]

Consistency first, quality a very close second. Speed is a "nice to have."

[@lawrencekucharek3775]

So if they added multi color would they have a bell or something to let you know when to cut the fiber?

[@LoyalMoses]

We'll have to wait, but I imagine it would be just like all the others.

[@brucemcleod5575]

If there was a planned ams then they would have included a solenoid filament cutter

[@johnsanford3596]

Perhaps the filament cutter will be integral to the AMS rather than the machine itself?

[@LoyalMoses]

Possibly.

[@1supertec]

Awesome video 👍, I think manufacturers are selling us speed at a good ISH quality print but I would gladly sacrifice half or more of the speed for a significant step up in quality and print reliability.

[@LoyalMoses]

I agree! And thank you!

[@JS-sf3ho]

This vs Bambu P1S? Which do you like better for print quality and ease of use?

[@LoyalMoses]

The P1S has shown to be slightly better with print quality, but the heated chamber for exotic materials on the Q1 Pro is such a great feature we need to see more of. Also, the P1S has the AMS potential, which is very valuable.

[@JS-sf3ho]

@@LoyalMoses thanks for your input. Deciding between the two for my first printer. The AMS is what’s making me lean towards the Bambu.

[@legendfpv]

Big price difference

[@JS-sf3ho]

@@legendfpv very true but I am a buy once kind of guy.

[@MarianoandLindseyMoronta]

PS if you do early bird pricing, add it to your cart and then sign up for their email and wait a few days and then you’ll get a 5% discount once you do that and you use it it will only cost you $450

[@LoyalMoses]

Great tip!

[@TechDunk]

Would you recommend the max? Or just get this one? Or another? I want a bigger printer which can also print high quality filament if possible (since I might want to print as a service)

[@LoyalMoses]

I really like this machine over the X-Max 3 -- if that is the machine you are referring to?

[@TechDunk]

@@LoyalMoses i was, why so?

[@stevereese6488]

Does the qidi max have the same purge bucket/wiper setup?

[@LoyalMoses]

Not that I am aware of. I looked at the Plus, it did not.

[@missile1506]

How do you feel about the older version of Klipper on it and not having an upgrade available yet? That's what other channels have said, anyway.

[@LoyalMoses]

Doesn’t bother me. Printers are not PCs, the company is choosing the best version of software for their hardware as an appliance.

[@YHK_YT]

Great video

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you!!!

[@legendaryshadow6428]

this is really tempting, but I think ill get the x-smart 3 as its much cheaper, and also available atm. Thou this is what my ideal printer is, it's just im new to this and I haven't had a 3d printer yet, but I need it to be able to handle engineering materials for projects. When I start working and earn my own money, ill see the available options then, so I shall go for the x-smart and with the left over money that I wouldn't have to buy a filament dryer.

[@LoyalMoses]

I’ve heard great things about that machine!

[@joescalon541]

Seems good for under $500, but seeing other unboxings and first prints, it’s seems a bit in beta still. Heard others say it is running a two year old version of Klipper, for a “pro” model I hope they allow custom installs of Klipper from modders. At 599 price, I can’t see this competing against the p1p.

[@LoyalMoses]

It’s a really good machine!

[@SupportNoob]

this or adventurer 5m pro?

[@giocas1054]

Would you say it's better than the bambu labs p1s?

[@Dannyar10]

No

[@LoyalMoses]

The P1S has a few advantages, mainly AMS and a more cohesive user experience. Print quality on the P1S I feel is superior as well.

[@legendfpv]

Definitely, especially factoring in price.

[@The3DPrintingGrandad]

I may have mentioned this before, if so, sorry; I would like for contributors to mention the county these machines are manufactured in.

[@LoyalMoses]

I've not done that, because I don't really think it is relevant. I think quality is quality regardless of where it comes from and if someone wants to avoid a country or only buy from a specific country they can do that research.

[@kyle8575]

I value quality, but also repeatability.

[@LoyalMoses]

Me too.

[@christianpfrunder1677]

Speed is nice, but I slow down, so the Printer will live longer. Also, I will speed it up if I have to. It depends on the Situation.

[@LoyalMoses]

Definitely! Speed breaks moving parts.

[@lynntatro7374]

Will it print Ultem 1010? Almost.

[@LoyalMoses]

I’m not sure about that!

[@dougphillips5686]

Does this have closed loop motor control?

[@LoyalMoses]

No.

[@robertc363]

I am new at 3d and trying to figure out what is the best machine for my 1st one. Don’t have a ton of money, so trying to get one that the best for the buck. Any help you can give would be great.

[@LoyalMoses]

Creality Ender 3 V3 SE, Bambu Lab A1 mini - these are great machines!

[@NessieKnows]

I’m torn between this and the 4 Plus from Qidi

[@LoyalMoses]

Both are great machines, I’d take the PLUS4.

[@GromPilot]

Quality over speed every time.

[@LoyalMoses]

Absolutely!

[@freeoceansoul]

AMS ..After Marketing Service they mean in that label

[@LoyalMoses]

:-)

[@michaelbliss3337]

They're telling everyone AMS is on the way, but no ETA, except for the reviewers I guess?

[@LoyalMoses]

It appears so!

[@The3DPrintingGrandad]

It would be really nice for these machines to have ethernet as well as WiFi. I just switched my OctoPrint server from WiFi to ethernet, mainly for stability.

[@LoyalMoses]

I agree! I’d go all Ethernet for them if I could.

[@kazolar]

It's nice to see manufacturers delivering klipper machines with open ssh, however -- why do they feel the need to alter klipper code making not updateable. This machine is running a klipper version that's over 2 years old. If you want to run kamp, or other advance klipper features, you can't. IS is better now, belt shaping. You have to rely on Qidi for a firmware update -- which shouldn't be needed. Run vanilla klipper, do customizations via config and scripts.

[@LoyalMoses]

I really don’t have a preference, I’m happy to see new machines!

[@kazolar]

@@LoyalMoses kamp is feature in klipper that allows to only create a mesh for the area of the print, this is a klipper machine, but running klipper than is way too old. Vector 3d raised this issue, if you're doing a review, you're missing a big aspect of the review by not mentioning that it's running such an old version of klipper.

[@LoyalMoses]

99% of buyers don’t care. They are buying a complete 3D printing solution, not hardware and software separately. I personally don’t think it even matters as long as the machine produces great results for those that buy.

[@kazolar]

@@LoyalMoses just watched the tear down, thing is a fire hazard. It won't pass the CE cert, and bambu had to recall a printer due to a cable that is questionable, this machine has A LOT of questionable bits in it. I'll pass. I've taken the X1C apart -- and I trust it, and seeing this one, I'd be scared to leave the room with this heater unit on.

[@kazolar]

@@LoyalMoses btw, they should care, if klipper, moonraker and other components are that old, there are likely vulnerabilities in the OPEN SOURCE software that has been patched. Good luck putting a printer with 2 year old software on your network. You do you. Tell yourself, it doesn't need the cloud -- totally safe. Lol

[@redline3036]

The kitchen counter toaster look is just eh for me. Everyone isn't into customization and building like some of us are kinda a bit sad to see them all moving to kitchen toaster look.

[@LoyalMoses]

I can understand that, my preference is to work towards appliances so more people can join us.

[@redline3036]

@@LoyalMoses Thats what is great about your channel feel like im the get off my lawn guy sometimes I just love building and doing mods. They are advancing at a fast rate cannot wait to get my kobra 3 combo.

[@creativecityis]

but when there is quality and speed...

[@LoyalMoses]

It’s a beautiful thing!

[@LoyalMoses]

It’s a beautiful thing!

[@shanechristiansen38]

Did you say polymaker silk peek????

[@LoyalMoses]

Not that I remember! 😆

[@theredstormer8078]

At the start of the video I gotta say I disagree. I use a 1mm nozzle because I don't care about quality. I'm trying to prototype things as quickly as possible and I design around the downsides of that.

[@LoyalMoses]

The majority definitely wants quality.

[@theredstormer8078]

@@LoyalMoses I could've phrased that better. I understand most people want overall quality, but for my purposes that's just really nice to have. I mainly make parts for my car and robot parts for my Vex U team. If we need a part done to progress and something needs to be reprinted, it's really nice to have a fast printer so we don't have to waste another day waiting for prints. As for the car parts, I usually fill and paint those anyways and they don't have fine details. Strength and speed matter most there. If you're spending this much on a machine that's in that "it just works" sort of category rather than buying a cheap i3 clone I think there's a higher chance you don't have the time to reprint things much, hence that being a bigger selling point.

[@jameskellam2980]

I dont really care about multi color. I can paint the print rather than wasting that much plastic to change colors. Multi material would be cool though. Or maybe an IDEX version allowing one to change to a support filament without having to purge.

[@LoyalMoses]

Painting will work for crafts, definitely. I have both multi-nozzle and IDEX, and multi-material / color is far superior. The waste isn’t as much as people want to believe it is.

[@jameskellam2980]

@@LoyalMoses Good to hear. Most influencers make a big deal out of waste. I am still learning. I came from machining and airbrushing, hence my thoughts on color vs materials. Btw, Really good videos on yer channel.

[@LoyalMoses]

Oh! I would LOVE to learn airbrushing. So much you can do with it!

[@californiasomething]

you need to invest in a ventilation system there is no excuse to be venting abs fumes to the room

[@LoyalMoses]

Or just open a window when we print it! If I were a farm, yes.

[@moschidreamer]

14:02 "back here" Printer companies, please! do not put anything you need to get access very often, to the back, Yes Bambu, the on off switch at the back sucks. And Filament Inlet at the back sucks!

[@LoyalMoses]

I agree, machines are getting bigger and heavier and turning them around sucks!

[@johnsanford3596]

I was thinking something along those lines, only regarding the top of the machine. Accessibility to the things you gotta futz with to operate it is pretty damn important.

[@TheSinzia]

Heated chamber and auto-z offset? Say less.

[@LoyalMoses]

K

[@warmfreeze]

I think the real test would be to get someone who is a complete noob at 3d printing and make them print something complicated and see how noob-proof the printer is.. i mean you say its targeted towered EVERYONE..

[@LoyalMoses]

I always treat each machine this way, I try not to assume very much so that regular people can be represented.