Scoring the QIDI Q1 Pro 3D Printer

[@lawrencekucharek3775]

I just received my QIDI today I ORDERED IT ON 7/6/2024 it is different from the reviews. 1st it has an Ethernet connect. 2nd they relocated the tube for the fiber. 3rd the hot plate has stops in the back corners to align the plate.

[@LoyalMoses]

Oh wow! I'd love to see some photos of it!

[@PaulKostrzewa]

I got mine at the end of May and it has the same upgrades as yours, I was super-impressed about the quick response to reviewers.

[@Ferritdiver99501]

I love my Q1! It's been printing PAHT-CF and GF ABS nonstop

[@LoyalMoses]

Fantastic! Love to hear that!

[@aeonjoey3d]

oh wow, exotic to most hobbyists, mind if I ask what kinds of prints thoes materials are for?

[@Ferritdiver99501]

@@aeonjoey3d printer parts and 2a items mostly.

[@PaulKostrzewa]

Great review! I've been printing on my Q1 for about 6 weeks now and the only issues printing have been when I messed up in the slicer. From my flawless first layer test on day one, through 1.5kg of filament, to my most recent prints I have been super happy with the whole Q1 experience. Coming from a Voxelab Aquila v1 my life has gotten much easier; no more levelling every other print or worrying about filament run-out or tangles. Even the spool holder, which I dislike, does its' job... badly, but it hasn't dropped a spool yet so I can't complain. As soon as I hook up the carbon filter unit I printed I'm going to try printing ASA and see how the heated build chamber operates.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you! This is great to hear, I think QIDI is doing an amazing job! Thank you for sharing!

[@kschaffer6978]

Nice job as usual. Glad I pulled the trigger and bought this machine. Will open up more choices for filaments.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you! Congratulations! It’s a really good machine.

[@richc9890]

Really need to score after market support also. That's why I chose Qidi over Bambu. You may not have issues as a youtuber (they may all set you as a high priority), but looking over user reviews (and I also can vouch 1st hand for both), it does matter in purchasing a printer.

[@dmhayes6]

So true

[@LoyalMoses]

Support is really tough to measure, because we’d have to fabricate a support issue most of the time, and I don’t think that’s a good idea. I’m open for suggestions on how to do it if you have some.

[@Amn2k9]

@@802GarageIf KZbinrs began to do that it would twist reality. Just think about how many KZbinrs that would want to do that, and generate a bucket load of additional support tickets, which in turn would mean that real issues takes even longer to get solved. None of us want that. You do not solve customer support workload issues with generating a ton of fake issues/requests.

[@Amn2k9]

@@802Garage Ah the philosophy about others doing it then it is alright. If you want to see “blowing things out of proportion” look at your own reply there mate. Plenty of experience out there with customer service already if someone wants to know more about that. With that said, customer support can always improve, and in relation to Bambu Lab, I also do hope this improvement comes soon, as it has latest a long time now. But on the other hand if you have a great product, customer service will be less important, compared to a product where you will need support all the time. Still when needed, everyone of course wants a good experience. I just do not think a ton of fake issues will help end users. Of course if we could ensure that just LM acted as a customer service tester on our behalf, this would be 👍🏻.

[@TinTalon]

Another great video. I like the scoring system. This printer scored really well. Can’t wait to see new printers. I really like the site that has scores better than just a google drive.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you! Lots more scoring coming!

[@jimreed6503]

Thanks for the review and scoring. It's extremely helpful. Keep up the good reviews.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you!!!

[@aeonjoey3d]

Qidi really really needs to hire industrial designers with consumer electronics in their portfolios, it's like someone's nephew designed their exteriors.

[@Benny-ty6sp]

I saw on a youtube-like platform in China that QIDI said it had recruited some young people, so I think the design will be a bit more dynamic in the future.

[@DOSEDKID]

Yeah quite literally why I’ve never spent my own money on one, looks like a kids toy.

[@LoyalMoses]

I really wish more companies focused on user experience!

[@breedlofam]

I disagree. I couldn't care less how it looks. If it works well, that's what's important to me. This isn't something I'm taking out in public, it sits in a spare room of my house and no one, but me sees it.

[@mattd9392]

Thank you so much for doing this! I have been looking at this printer for a while, just trying to decide if I want to jump on it now or not.

[@LoyalMoses]

It’s a really good machine! I like it a lot!

[@johnsanford3596]

NO LINKEY!! I was promised a link, yet there is no link. The link in the description under Qidi is to the scoring PAGE, not to QIDI. No affiliate action for YOU!

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you!!! I can’t believe I missed that. I’ve updated the link. 💜

[@kylejohnson4284]

Love these videos. Are you planning on doing one for Bambu P series printers?

[@LoyalMoses]

Absolutely! We have about 90 printers here that will be on the list and we will try our best to create scoring videos for as many of the most popular ones that we can!

[@SheLovesMyR8]

Love your videos man! Would you recommend the Ender 3 V3 KE or the Bambu Lab A1 Mini for beginner? I know both are great but having trouble deciding which to choose

[@LoyalMoses]

V3 or the A1 for a beginner! A1 is a better machine. And thank you!!!

[@dylanw4297]

Do you plan on making a public spreadsheet that contains all the scores from videos to easily compare printers?

[@vreedognight]

He has it linked in the description. loyal.ms/scores

[@LoyalMoses]

loyal.ms/scores

[@DavZell]

I think OP might have meant the scoring details. If one printer is higher or lower due to MMU, for example, someone may not care. Seeing your scoring details would clarify where machines gained or lost points.

[@somhunt5446]

Fair review, maybe am just harsh. Oh those fans. I think it’s the mainboard kicks in that is loud.Macros need refinement especially on max limit movements. I slowed mine down so now I just hear a light thud, instead of a violent crash. Otherwise I can not fault it. Am pragmatic I work with what is given (maybe it’s an Aussie trait of making do). From an engineering perspective understanding QIDI’s work flow processes makes each printer related task an easy experience. I have no issues with filament change process ( print out a Bambu tool), placement of the build plate (align the front corners), lid rubbing (5 mins in tinkercad), no door handle ( use original packing tape), filament dragged onto build plate at beginning of print (insert clean nozzle routine in machine gcode of slicer), touchscreen not responsive (most likely processing the previous command) document does state there can be a 1 second delay. Work with the Q1, it’s probably weird because you don’t understand it. QIDI have been actively updating and expanding resources the QIDI WIKI often for the Q1.

[@LoyalMoses]

Those are all great fixes, and I’ll be honest, these should be done before it arrives at the customer. Times have changed, and not every person that buys a 3D printer should be expected to fix it. I don’t buy any other tools that I need to fix a list of problems before it works as intended. Now, additionally. I really like the machine and recommend it.

[@nextdoorpanda]

Another great review! Thank you for your videos! May I ask your opinion.. I'm new to 3d printing and I try to choose my first FDM printer. Mainly I'm going to print in PLA, PETG and maybe ABS and TPU. I'd like to have quality (for commercial production) prints, not just for hobby. I would go for an MMU system but my current budget doesn't allow me to do so. So, I am between the Qidi Q1 Pro and the Creality K1C, which both have also the potential for an MMU system in the future (if Qidi releases one, and if Creality's upcoming MMU system would be backwards compatible). Which of those two printers would you suggest? I am also open to other suggestions! :)

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you!!! The K1Cs are super popular and our content is due out soon. The Q1 Pro would be great if you need that heated chamber.

[@arranwilliams2523]

I wish this was out when i got my A1, I printed for like two weeks and been waiting ever since. if i only had disposable income to get another one while i wait for this new heatbed.

[@LoyalMoses]

It shouldn't be too much longer!

[@peaceorpieces8343]

Not got one yet but i score it max points. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Heroes in a half-shell Turtle power! They're the world's most fearsome fighting team My p1s is crap. My k1 is amazing. My a1 before returning was amazing. Which should i get? A1 mini or q1 pro??

[@peaceorpieces8343]

@@802Garage thanks for the reply 👍

[@LoyalMoses]

Haha! Turtle power! 🐢 That’s tough… you already have an enclosed one. Do you have AMS yet? If not, I’d recommend the A1 mini.

[@peaceorpieces8343]

@@LoyalMoses no ams, i had ams lite with the a1 but sent those both back on the hotbed recall. I want to get a AMS for the p1s but for the same price as a AMS i can get a a1 mini and ams lite I think the qidi q1 will definitely get a AMS and it will be alot better than bambu labs 4 colour on each AMS

[@WARPAINTandUnicorns]

Since we are in full swing of the Klipper era of printers this series in general will help a lot of newer users tounderstand what to look for. I'd appriacte a check box for a fimalent cutter. The cutter make swapping filaments easier is a nice feature. The potential to run AMS/MMU is of interest to people I feel. Maybe a heated chamber check box as well in an Extra's section. I suspect we will see more of these going forward.

[@LoyalMoses]

Fantastic suggestions! I agree, I think we’ll see heated chambers a lot more!

[@lukebrown6913]

Great review, mate.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you!!!

[@XHolyPuffX]

I wonder if there's a straightforward way to improve the part cooling fans.

[@LoyalMoses]

I’m sure there is. It’s not bad cooling, there is just better out there.

[@aeonjoey3d]

removing the top cover and the PTFE tube just to change the filament... it's like they wanted the grey toolhead cover from bambu but none of the conveniences.

[@LoyalMoses]

User experience is so important, I wish they would focus more on it.

[@raiden72]

12:51 can you please comment on how some people are using a modified version of CURA? what plugins do i need, what Start and end Gcode do i need? Thanks so much!!! I am very interested in getting this machine running with Cura since i have two ender3s and want to streamline my "single pane of glass" printing/slicing interface!!!!

[@LoyalMoses]

It's rebranded.

[@lukebrown6913]

Hi mate, I hope you're doing well.....I've stumbled across adding textures to the outside of 3d models...using Ideamaker slicer...have you any experience of this please and tried this on a bambu or Qidi. Reason I ask is.... it would really reduce the amount of post print work and potentially turns a standard plastic part into something more than a standard 3d printed surface...i.e. wood or leather effect. I know this is a slight deviation from your usual format, but I'd be really interested in your opinion please...possibly a future video?

[@LoyalMoses]

I tried adding textures and it was not as easy and nice as I had seen others do it.

[@LoyalMoses]

I'd love to do a video on it also for me to understand it better!

[@lukebrown6913]

Thanks mate for your kind reply.

[@JLGstairlift]

Finding it difficult to find any info on spare parts for the q1

[@LoyalMoses]

Oh! Let's hope they get the website updated.

[@lukebrown6913]

Are you related to Billy Crystal......if i look away from the screen, could easily be him presenting!!!

[@LoyalMoses]

Not that I am aware of! He’s awesome!

[@lukebrown6913]

@@LoyalMoses He is...meant as a compliment....wish you every success.

[@lukebrown6913]

@LoyalMoses Hi, Please can you help answer a question for me.. looking to produce prototypes with PC and nylon and produce fine threads......I'm on the fence re the P1S or XC1....I guess you'd still recommend the p1s with AMS opposed to anything else?

[@foxio2778]

can you do a review of the infimech tx?

[@LoyalMoses]

Absolutely, if they sent one.

[@pfabiszewski]

Bed levelin 5/5 but it has only 2 screws, not 3, so it is more like automatic tramming than leveling - imho

[@LoyalMoses]

🤔

[@traceyclarke-nd9yj]

I love my Q1 also. 😊

[@LoyalMoses]

It's a great machine!

[@jb_1167]

I spotted your PTFE tube attached to cable chain - was that a mod you made to deal with the top rubbing? You might want to add a point option for Privacy/Vendor Lock-in. Qidi doesn't require you use their own management/distribution system like Bambu. Along the lines of Vendor Support mentioned in other comments, you should mention Parts Availability - can you swap parts with readily available alternatives like other size nozzles, are they restricted availability by the maker, etc. It'd be cool to see a future review handle integration with an MMU option like 3dchameleon - then whether Qidi brings it or not, the option would be better explored.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thanks! That’s not added because 99% of printer buyers don’t care if it open or closed source. Most people just want a machine that prints well.

[@zakspop]

So, are you like a teacher who won't give a 100 even if your work is perfect?

[@LoyalMoses]

Name a perfect printer.

[@zakspop]

@@LoyalMoses I can't but I'd like to quote you on the unboxing "Incredibly simple to unbox, throw it up on the bench and start printing" But it still gets a 3 out of 5. What does it have to do to get a 5? Unbox itself and jump up on your bench? Hence the original comment.

[@LoyalMoses]

If you’ve unboxed a $5000 machine, then you know what I’m talking about. The experience is far different. Shipping braces that pop off, clear, colored instructions for beginners on how to start - some companies put A LOT of money into the packaging, even making some retail ready, so it’s important not to hand out perfect scores to every hobby 3D printer, otherwise what score do you give a better unboxing experience. I hope that makes sense, typing this on mobile!

[@zakspop]

@@LoyalMoses score them on a different scale. Using your process means a hobby printer can never be good enough. Have a hobby league and a professional league.

[@LoyalMoses]

Good idea. I’d rather see every machine increase in user experience and quality! We’ve had junk experiences for too long!

[@DavZell]

Your online list is sorting prices alpabetically, so $1199 is lowest, not highest in the list, below $199.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thanks.

[@shanechristiansen38]

The only machine that about pulled me away from the bambu culture, that machine is sexy

[@LoyalMoses]

I’d love to see a farm of them!

[@Roskellan]

What? Only Wifi no LAN Port? What on Earth...

[@LoyalMoses]

Weird huh?!

[@olafmarzocchi6194]

But contrary to other printers it has 150 M connection, so not slow anyway

[@AroundTampaBay]

looks like a microwave hahah.. scored it a 98.

[@LoyalMoses]

Within 4 points that’s really good!!!

[@AroundTampaBay]

@@LoyalMoses i thought so to. but still looks like a microwave haha..

[@dmhayes6]

I'd rather pay a few more $ for a machine that has proper top clearance for their design. IMO, having your PTFE tube rub the top of the enclosure is unforgiveable. Bambu is also guilty -.-

[@somhunt5446]

5 mins in Tinkercad, I had a lid raiser.

[@dmhayes6]

@@somhunt5446 That doesn't excuse the design failure in the slightest. This is marketed as a pro machine, not a tinker machine. Being complicit with this type of behavior leads to crappy machines and user experiences.

[@dmhayes6]

To be clear, I'm not saying this is a crappy machine or user experience, but not calling it out will lead to this.

[@LoyalMoses]

It’s pretty common, industrial machines 4 years ago did it too. It doesn’t bother me as much I suppose.

[@somhunt5446]

@@dmhayes6 I don't believe anyone is excusing the design or lack of in the lid. That is how it came and there are solutions available. I disagree its a professional grade machine. Previous X-CF where more geared professional functional parts manufacturing. the Q1 Pro simply has the capabilities, meditated by design compromises and some oversight to meet a price point. The older X-CF lines are still x2 the pricing of Q1 Pros. I am not saying to put up with minor inconveniences, find solutions and work with it. We just have different philosophies and that is fine, makes for a better engaging community.

[@imaginarypoint]

i gave it a 69 .. i mean a 96 ;)

[@LoyalMoses]

LOL! That's actually not too bad! What features did you score lower?

[@Numenor7]

"Unboxing"... (sets it on the table and does nothing) "3 out of 5". 3/5 is only 60% bro! That's a 'D'! How much easier do you expect it to be? Should the machine unbox itself? 😂

[@LoyalMoses]

Do you know what a weighted scoring system is? It’s not a D, and it leaves room for more amazing ways for products to be packaged… nobody expected CoreXY machines to arrive like this, and what if the next ones come in beautiful retail packaging, etc?!

[@Numenor7]

@@LoyalMoses of course. It's subjective and your idea of "packaging" might differ from my own. I was making a jest, but to me when unboxing literally consists of pulling the product out of the box and clipping a few zip ties, with no assembly required, that's a pretty easy unbox. I'm very pragmatic, the appearance of the packaging is irrelevant to me as long as it gets to my house as intended. Maybe if you're also judging packaging appearance as well then the category shouldn't be called simply "unboxing". To me that implies the literal act of removing something from it's packaging. Again sorry to sound critical, I wasn't at all, I found it amusing and made a joke. Keep up the good reviews, I look forward to seeing your scoring system applied to more 3D printers to help us make informed decisions. Thanks again for the detailed review.

[@Numenor7]

Lol not at all I thought it was funny 😜