Surfing with the SWEDISH CHAINSAW! - Boss Hm-2 for surf rock TOAN? + Classic distortion shoot out

[@alexj0126]

That’s it I’m finally starting that metal stoner surf band I’ve always wanted, I’ll call it “The Dead Whale Carcass project”

[@pittuthead]

The Moby Dope Project

[@conanseibel4464]

THSea

[@teknomanning]

SEA weed

[@benchilds2374]

The Wytches do it pretty well: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJXTZIGsgN6In5I Full album: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5yWipt9oaiFjK8

[@bsthadrudge5752]

You have your first three albums names... /\

[@Devilson131313]

The Entombments - Left Hand Wave

[@ramonw9430]

Lol

[@caro_lam]

i remember about a decade ago a friend was trying to sell me his japanese HM-2 for only like £40. "y'know they're kinda rare, they're good for shoegaze noizzze stuff," he said. i said nahhhhhh. man i regret that

[@jnkmal9519]

Japanese one sounds exactly like the Taiwan one. So, don't sweat it.

[@liammcgill6709]

i have a 1983 one, cost £25, bought it of a gut who didn't know what he had. Steal.

[@blakehoss6837]

I bought my HM-2 clone expecting to use it almost exclusively for playing shoegaze, but ended up really enjoying using it for psych/surf influenced stuff as well. So glad you are enjoying this functionality as well!

[@tenderstems]

This was my first pedal. I still have it. I paid $20 for it and have toyed with selling it a number of times, but I’m very sentimental, or sentimetal in this case

[@Weevil_Fam]

Never sell it

[@davidg396]

You’d probably make 1000% returns if you decided ti sell the pedal

[@pittuthead]

Hm2 sounds like a muff with EQ, so yeah it sounds awesome Ola schooled everyone on the metal zone by putting it on the fx loop Nice vid Ryan!

[@Left-Earth]

My favorite Boss HM-2 settings all include the Distortion knob turned all the way down to 0. The pedal then sounds like a distortion boost with a fuzz like quality. Also sounds great with a synthesizer or bass guitar. I like to modify drum samples with the pedal for new drum sounds in my DAW.

[@ScienceofLoud]

That HM-2 you have does sound noticeably different to mine, I don't know how much of that is the rest of the rig though. I'd love to know what is going on inside to make yours special. Did you switch from 9 to 12V for the shootout part? The LED suddenly started lighting up.

[@60CycleHumcast]

No change in the power. But that led is fickle, sometimes it’s bright but usually it’s very dim.

[@patrickearles471]

@@60CycleHumcast if I'm not mistaken, it lights up if it's daisy chained with a Boss, but, if you use an isolated power supply, it will only light up if you use a 12V output

[@60CycleHumcast]

@@patrickearles471 that might be it.

[@Pseudophage]

@@60CycleHumcast I've used both dedicated ACA and a Boss LS2 to power mine and it makes absolutely zero difference to me, whether that be the led or the overall sound. My understanding was that daisy chaining was an easy and effective way to achieve ACA for old Boss stuff. Noisier, maybe, but in practice achieves the same result.

[@watcherofthemundane]

I played my hm-2 with a 9v for a year before I realized it was one of the older 12v mij ones. Blew my mind

[@noengineer12]

For every HM2 Waza 10 bucks should go to Entombed and another 10 to Kurt Ballou for keeping the name alive while boss waited years to hear what their customers wanted.

[@springbloom5940]

Im pretty sure they've been on the project, for awhile. You know theres a noticeable difference between the MIT and MIJ units and no one has come close to cloning it. Its not just the circuit. This thing will have to be *perfect* or it'll just piss off everyone, more than not having one at all.

[@springbloom5940]

But yes, Entombed should own a stake in the company.

[@noengineer12]

@@springbloom5940 all in all it seems a positive thing. I think even if it is perfect some people might be disappointed if they never used one before. Who knows? I am excited to see it and hear what people think.

[@whatwedointheshadows3349]

Entombed? At the gates is the band that made this.

[@vorpalblades]

@@whatwedointheshadows3349 ATG mainly used a Metal Zone.

[@grayaj23]

Surf guitar is just death metal on the "clean" channel.

[@Cyclobomber]

Black Metal works too.

[@koffieverslaafde627]

@@Cyclobomber bm works better

[@fraterfraxinus6293]

Ryan: "Am I getting too ADD for you guys?" Me: "Oooooh gold sparklies... Huh?"

[@BrentAdams]

I've had a Boss HM-2 for years! Love it at the lower "Distortion level" settings for a lot of different things....in fact I just included it (again!) on my extended & upgraded pedalboard. 👍🏻

[@subjectt.change6599]

In case anyone forgot; even if you never use it live or record it, you should have a Metal Zone. It’s always a ton of fun to play.

[@jrdoughty13]

Did you hear there's going to be a wazacraft version of the HM2? I'm stoked to hear more classic boss pedals are coming!

[@60CycleHumcast]

YEP! it was announced the night before I filmed this, lol. Looks like the next waza is going to be some kind of mysterious fuzz pedal.

[@jvin248]

You need to open up that HM-2 to see if anyone did a mod on this particular specimen. I've done a half-waza-mod on MT-2 and it improved a lot. The HM-2 circuit looks like a cross of a DS-1 and OD-1 through the gain stages than either an MT-2 or MD-2.Try stacking an OD-1 to DS-1 to try getting your HM-2 tones (both with low gain).

[@SquizbarDeAlienOfficial]

I actually use mine as a fuzz it sounds absolutely amazing with an up octave

[@Paul_Lenard_Ewing]

The cool thing about the REVV G4 is you still get a bit of that classic Plexi steeping thru where as the others disguised Fuzz pedals

[@bruiserbrawler8054]

I've had one of these since 1980something... I use mine for Blues based rock and Metal, original music. And, yes, I use mine two ways: 1. Everything dimed into a clean amp, or 2. Everything but the gain dimed and into a driven amp. The gain I keep at around 9:00 on the dial. Great video!

[@occult1390]

Rat for the win lol, when i saw you were lining it up i was like oh it's over

[@jameshart9943]

It's incredible how you've described my (and I'm sure many others as well) guitar journey with regards to distortion and mids. First thing I do now when I'm checking out an amp is crank the mids up to around 7-8, turn the base down quite a bit and play with the treble until I find the sweet spot. If that doesn't do it for me then I'm out. Mids is where the guitar lives--if it sounds bad with the mids up, scooping them is just going to take your sound out of the mix. Learn to embrace the mids!!!

[@springbloom5940]

The HM2 is a fantastic pedal. People just didn't know how to use it.

[@60CycleHumcast]

It's pretty misunderstood.

[@springbloom5940]

@@60CycleHumcast I got kicked out of a band, with it 👍

[@blahblah606]

I've had one for decades. I love plugging into the board direct for serious Ernie Isley tones. Combined with a phaser it's awesome.

[@daveesco1]

I used to run the Hm2 into a slightly broken up tube amp, and then used the OD3 as a boost. tightens it up, smooths out the tone.

[@doogdoogdoogdoogdoogdoog]

It seems like so much of the 'signature' death metal HM-2 sound is the distortion PLUS the fact that you're kicking the crap out of the amp's front-end by maxing the level. It does sound pretty "accessible" with that volume pulled back!

[@60CycleHumcast]

Yep

[@franks471]

in the late 80s I had two HM2 pedals and they were different on the inside. That's all I remember, the second one I got had a very different tone to it. I remember liking the first one I had better.

[@dissinyosandwich7548]

The higher gain pedal with the more surf-inspired tone sounds like it has quite a bit of practical use. I could really see the filthy reverb-heavy tone being used for a lot of heavy psych-inspired stuff like stoner metal or psychedelic thrash like King Gizzard's album Infest the Rat's Nest.

[@prevalentape0]

Totally fun video, Ryan!

[@JulianA-tr6pt]

Old news and I noticed Ryan made another video after this, but I'll leave this anyways for other late viewers (engagement on old content? 😉). These pedals "take" 9 volts (hence running perfectly on a 9V battery), but they have a resistor to drop the ~12V from the old power supplies, so straight 9V ends up dropping even lower. If your old boss has a super dim LED but kinda works/sounds weird, try a daisy chain (cheap type like onespot), battery, or 12V. I should try mine on true 9V. I run mine in a daisy chain, which essentially bypasses the resistor. Same with my very early 80s CE2

[@GG-ik6it]

So kewl. Love that its secretly a fuzz pedal. Theres really no limits with pedals explore settings and keep a open mind always

[@timothyharrison8953]

"Be excellent to each other!" - Bill. "Party on, dudes!" - Ted.

[@sheddingvelvet]

Definitely gonna second that recommendation for using the GRUNGE on baritone, seems like it works really well for downtuned sludge riffs, rather than most other styles

[@watcherofthemundane]

Whoa everything isn't at 10. Crazy

[@IMONFIREPLEASEPUTMEOUT]

8:40 :)

[@DarkAvatar1313]

@@IMONFIREPLEASEPUTMEOUT Yeah, but on single coils it's not going to buzzsaw...

[@RED-pi5ej]

That pedal needs to go to Josh’s secret basement lab to be analyzed now! Oh and bonus he can fix the led while it’s there too

[@subjectt.change6599]

I think you truly may have a unique HM-2. Get it analyzed! CLONE IT!

[@tymime]

There is _one_ surf metal band that I know of, called Estrume'n'tal. I've been using metal distortion in front of Fender amps with reverb for a while. Makes for a great shoegaze sound, among other things.

[@tymime]

Also, there's the entire genre of surf punk.

[@tymime]

Hey, if the DS-1 is good enough for Kurt Cobain...

[@Pseudophage]

I think I've got another one of those unusual HM2s, although maybe they're all just unusual tbf. It's got way less gain on tap than I expected it would (maybe that's bias on my part). Like, to give you a point of reference, considerably less gain than my rat clone. My favorite setting to use on the HM2 is to max the tone knobs, and then dial them back to reduce the boominess of the bass and to get the high knob just at the edge of the chainsaw tone that everyone else seems to use them for. I think the variation in the amount of gain on tap from one HM2 to the next would explain why some people insist on using the HM2 more as a preamp with the gain set to zero and pushing an already distorting amp.

[@clivegregory4126]

I was expecting a Husqvarna video...

[@SlaughteredDecay]

I have bought two of these a few years ago, 30 and 40 Canadian each.

[@coalcrackerchris]

Finally get to see ya play that "Hanna barbarra/Scooby-Doo" guitar! Love the design and sound! Very 60's

[@al271987]

I definitely agree, the HM-2 is definitely it’s own thing AND the HM-2 is definitely more than that one trick pony, death metal chainsaw sound. See My Bloody Valentine, Slint, Swervedriver and more. It was a good option utilized by many indie and shoegaze bands. I’m psyched for the reissue. Boss Waza stuff has been pretty much perfect so far, I’m sure their new HM-2 will be excellent.

[@savasgeylani9984]

Hey Ryan, could tell me the name of the song you play at 8:06? I see you play it a lot in different videos. Thank you

[@barnshart9662]

Are you running your HM2 on 9v or the 12 it's supposed to be run at? Maybe that's why yours sounds different?

[@marcofioravanti4176]

That´s what I was thinking, too..the light seems so typically dimmed. :-) Sounds great enough, though!

[@NightPaddle]

For some reason I feel myself challanged to create a Death Metal sound with a Fender Bassman.

[@NightPaddle]

If somebody uses Bias FX 2: I uploaded a ridiculously heavy preset to the Tone Cloud, named: "Heavy Fender Bassman"

[@turaly0n]

Great analysis of these distortion pedals. People ragged on the MT-2 until Ola did his two videos and showed everyone it's a killer gain pedal when used properly. It helps if you aren't running it into your trash tier solid state amp.

[@jasonwhite6368]

Love it dude!!!!! I love mixing up metal / punk and surf styles!

[@ajaxlepinski3285]

Just discovered your vids!!!! WOOOO HOOOOOO!!!! I'm a fan!!!

[@leevanwesterborg7805]

i stopped playing metal at least 15 years ago, i use my HM-2 as fuzz pedal now. yours sounds just like mine, except for the treble, i could never turn mine up that high without it sounding like an ice pick in my ears, but the mids are exactly the same, and i'm using a different amp than you. the germanium diodes and the EQ really make it sound interesting

[@beepbleepboop]

ive always seen this guitar hanging in the back of your videos, but i never got the appeal of it. now, after hearing it play surf metal, i 100% understand.

[@steveparkes]

I think i sold mine in the 90s but the one I had made some great grungy fuzz tones. I sold my tube screamer to a metal dude and my late 60s fuzz face (a gift from a mates dad who gigged it back I the 60s) to somebody with loads of money and used my HM2 and a Tokai Overdrive with an early Vox wah wah and either my AC15 or a loaned Fender Deluxe to do all the sounds I needed. I'm hoping it turns up one day and didn't get sold. I know I gave the Tokai away to the lead singer in a Queen tribute act when he bought my Tele in 98 but I can't remember if I still had the HM2 at that point or sold it to a friend before then when I was in a short lived rock rap thing in the mid 90s and friends of friends back then used to snap up pedals left, right and centre. Some like the Boss Chorus and Phaser I wish I'd kept and others like the cheap plastic clones I still feel I ripped people off with. I just wish I'd bought the Klon, Rat and Marshall Guvener I wanted with the cash instead of beer.

[@whiskerbiscuit6674]

There were Taiwan HM-2's. David Gilmore used an HM-2. HM-2's could sound different because they rely on Germanium diodes and they are very inconsistent.

[@mindfall82]

I wanna hear you do a shootout of all the revvg's because to me the 3 sounds the best

[@jonathanmack5474]

I've always liked my HM-2 over my experience fuzz (prescription electronics). But the swell feature is a tonal treat, so both stay on the board. Try pairing the HM-2 with compress/sustain pedal.

[@ltxr9973]

It's more like a fuzz pedal than a distortion pedal. Most people just wouldn't notice because that doesn't really matter at swedish settings.

[@eti313]

Yay! Davie Allan!

[@jrg770]

The World of Pedals is strange. I got a HM-2 for Christmas (bought new). My first ever pedal. After a few years I replaced the HM-2 (sold it) with a brand new Metal Zone. At the time, you did not have access to a million options for high gain. The HM-2 was so weak and flubby compared to the Metal Zone. And yet today. the HM-2 has a better rep than the MT-2. Its all bizarre. But if all you had access to for high Gain was the MT-2, it'd be more valuable than a HM-2, like it was back in 1991. The good news is that b I build pedals and built an exact replica of the HM-2. 🍻

[@SpiderStratagemVI]

Tell me more about that guitar! I owned an HM2 along time ago and it served its purpose but I was happy with that time

[@kenvorland]

Awesome video the best boss pedal ever is boss turbo overdrive od-2 thats what i think keep it up man youre videos rules surf man

[@emilhelm7609]

A while back I discovered that The Ventures were from Tacoma, WA. I felt like everything I thought was true was a lie.

[@michaelwoods9005]

I think the ventures pre-date "surf rock" by a few years. I think of them as instrumental rock, and they did embrace the surf themes a little later when it became popular. Surf is more Dick Dale, to me.

[@SonicRave1]

You should really listen to The Raveonettes early albums Whip It On and Chain Gang of Love!

[@jeffreydooley3745]

Hey Ryan, have you tried a Rowin Dumble Pedal yet? Being that I want a Dumble amp but cannot afford one, I bought a Rowin Dumble Pedal and I love it. It's a soft overdrive that sounds awesome.

[@AMPProf]

Holy Snow, he hit the Snowboard rock with the Swedish Chainsaw setting! also, This Showcases one more possibility of the ye Ol' Phrase "Everything Metals"

[@LookingForEntertainment112]

Fun video, something was SUPER microphonic in your rig? Was it the Harley Benton's pickups or that patch cable?

[@livefromadive6751]

Now I'm missing my HM-2's. Back at the turn of the century you could score them off Ebay for $40-50. I got one, liked it so much I grabbed a second. Loaned one to a friend as he was getting ready to record, have not seen it in years. Decided to sell the other earlier this year, just because. Maybe I should bug my friend.... Or grab a BYOC kit when they get some in.

[@russiangoose7053]

You should have a signature pedal, where it's an HM2 and a drippy reverb in one pedal, call it the surf saw haha

[@petrovsulinak187]

I have a hm-3, is it evolution of hm-2

[@carvinblack]

They did make a Taiwan version as well.

[@nikolanebulus7259]

Hey Ryan you should of used that new Jazzmaster 2 with those pedals.

[@daddyosink4413]

Out of these.... I have always loved my Rat, and I miss my HM2 (stolen 20 years ago). My Rat will never come off of my board. I had a Grunge, it did what I needed it to do. I have never liked the Metal Zone.... now that I'm older and know a few more things, i can see how it is usable. But it cant stand alone, it needs an eq pedal or a tube screamer to unlock it.

[@mindfall82]

First 2 pedals I had was a Metal Zone and Boss flanger in the '90s lol good times

[@periurban]

What the heck is that curly whammy bar thing on the pink guitar?

[@PhillyBoyRoy]

Hallmark guitars FTW, bob shade is tha man

[@LazyCat010]

I had one of those. Fun pedal!

[@markschuth8036]

Maybe Waza can add a noise gate you think?

[@BandOfHarjaps]

Thats the settings I use!

[@davidgoode7416]

Awesome! 👊

[@fortheloveofnoise]

Are you going to get and try out the upcoming Waza Craft version?

[@CommanderNewton]

I think Avona Nova of Man or Astro-Man? uses one of these going into a vox ac-30 so anything's possible with surf music

[@linleechiun]

New series : Does it SURF !!!!!!!!

[@alvfaria]

Will it Surf?

[@linleechiun]

You're right . My bad.

[@BoyAditya]

Wait.. mosrite 'the venture' is "the venture" band signature series?🤔

[@60CycleHumcast]

yep

[@jdg5468]

I’ve been surfing on my Waza metal zone, love it!

[@renwickpage5956]

Great guitar !

[@matthewJ142]

The boss md2 mega distortion does that heavy metal sound to me

[@markferguson3745]

I really like spring reverb, even getting it crazy drippy and splashy, BUT ,- I usually switch it to delay or short plate if there's any sustain or compression involved.To my ear, it sounds fine , low gain, but without the spring;- it's like there's a range of Hard Rock and Metal sounds that I avoid like the plague,- bad 80's flashbacks, like that Tom Scholz ," Rockman", chorused ,kind of gastrointestinal distress, bad. Had to tune in just to do a memory check, and yeah, - I still hate that HM pedal.I can get behind the Rat, - which was one of my first pedal purchases.(I used to turn the distortion down, but stack two of them, combined with an 808, to distort a Hiwatt 100 head, - which is not easy at any sane volume.) The DS 1 is almost as solid as the Blues Driver, and some of the simple mods def add value. I really liked the Walrus drives,- the Iron Horse and Warhorn are a nasty combo, and the lower gain stuff is EQed beautifully as well.(Their fuzzes, however, need some work). Peace.

[@tracypartin7408]

Entombed 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@ndf3]

Any good heavy metal surf records?

[@davidsharp3675]

Your best video by far!!! D#

[@carvinblack]

You need to try DOD American Metal and Super American Metal.

[@gloryxkid]

Very popular Pedal for shoegaze as well

[@amickcaldwell2104]

Rad, Ryan!

[@boomerbassmeme]

🏄‍♀️🤘😈🤘 I dig it!

[@tepevan]

The 90s called, they want their website back from Hallmark Guitars

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong here and I'd love it if someone disagreed with me about this but it seems to me like Boss just can't figure out the whole heavy metal thing. A DS-1 isn't really great for metal. The Metal Zone is notorious. And this, I don't really like the sound of it. I know people use these things in metal. But please let me know if you think I'm totally wrong. I'd love to hear about who uses them and maybe hear it in a mix.

[@bb.6969]

I think the grunge would sound quite well with a bass

[@djay6651]

I prefer the FX69 Grunge over the HM-2. But I actually like the FX69.

[@crankydragon]

All black-metal is is surf-guitar played through the, HM-2! 🤘😂

[@PooNinja]

Who made the sawwweeet axe in the thumbnail? MT2 is still the (can of angry bees) standard in my book*. * I say book but I can’t read so it’s really just a notebook full of scribbles and drawings of stick figures fighting.

[@JC-fj7oo]

HM2 has always been fuzzy. David gilmour used one to replace his muff on a couple albums.

[@michaelwoods9005]

He used it on his 2nd solo album 'About Face' and the subsequent tour. That's about it. He never used it on a Floyd tour or any other album that I'm aware of.

[@JC-fj7oo]

@@michaelwoods9005 Momentary lapse of reason

[@thechronicnoizeco.6675]

Is the light broken?

[@Gellert]

It works - I had to go full screen and watch him turn it on. It is dim, though.

[@CraigDeubler]

I need a 50/50 😮 ...

[@itsaprankbro52]

check the pot tolerances their might be smt their